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Would love to hear your take on Xianyun's C1 and C2 putting her in great--I haven't really seen anything on her cons. Thanks so much for this list! Extremely helpful.
Her c1 is kinda like baizhu's one, just used for enery generation. Anda her c2 is a quite big dmg increase for the plunge attacks your teammate makes@@georgemacdonald8667
Not only that, with sacrificial bow u can use ur skill like Three times with huge ER regeneration and extra damage and hydro application, so ur artifacts only need HP and Crit. It's definitely a big W constellation
@@miscellaneous7777 You don't "need" anything in genshin, but we still get like 80 wishes /patch, even more with welkin. With yelan C1 all my mobility needs are covered and 3 can bring 3 characters I like (and I like yelan too). Yes, for those who don't like yelan or don't want to spend wishes on a con, they have other options. I'll try to get xy C1 for the same reason as c1 yelan.
Keep in mind that this tierlist talks about how good each constellation is as increases over the C0 character, NOT how good each character is relative to each other at C2. For example, C2 Raiden is a bigger increase over C0 Raiden than C2 Alhaitham is over C0 Alhaitham, but that does not make Raiden a better carry than Alhaitham at C2.
@@leblancattire5951 Older units become less attractive pull. Nuvilette powercrept ayato so much as hydro dps that it's unlikely many will pul ayato from so on.
I think if you use baizhu, that c1 makes a pretty big difference, especially for energy, and the c2 ends up doing a lot more for application than i thought. if hes the only dendro on the team those cons make a world of difference. i would personally put him higher but that really the only thing i disagree with on this list overall
i agree. baizhu is one of my favorite characters, and getting his c1 was a happy accident on his debut banner (i was struggling to pull kaveh LOL). i'm able to run 130 er on him and burst on cooldown. it makes a drastic difference for energy regen and dendro application. i find it's a very valuable and comfortable constellation
I feel like the disclaimer about not ranking the characters resulting power at c2 but rather the c1-c2 itself went out the window a little with Nuev and Raiden.
@@itz_andi9691 The C6 part was true in 2.1, when Raiden came out. Ever since Sumeru came out they started putting great early constellations on every character, if you notice except klee the carries in the same tier as Raiden all came out after her
List is great but you have Raiden fatique. No way that a 41% damage increase with her C2 isn't in Top tier. It's more damage than almost any other constellation listed.
I probably would have bumped Yelan up a tier. Large damage increase, application increase and qol increase feels a lot better than the others in the tier.
Some changes I would have made here is moving Nahida directly to Furina into "Broken", because her c2 is. She fundamentally changes how transformative reactions work by literally making them crit, which works in Hyperbloom, Nolou Bloom, and Burgeon. But not only that, it lowers enemies defence when hit by Quicken based reactions. Which increases EVERYONE'S damage. As opposed to just her own. And naturally, neither of these scenario's are mutually exlusive from each other. I would also argue Ganyu should be in "Nice" rather than Niche, because there is nothing "Niche" about just having a straight up damage increase by way of reducing resistances. I would also move Ayaka up just because of the scale in increased damage her c2 can provide. Baizhu should probably need to be moved up as a straight up increase to overall healing and dendro application shouldn't be underestimated, especially in context of the teams he is typically played in.
C2 Nahida is good at everyteam which need dendro reaction while C2 Furina increases everyteam's dmg, every dps's dmg. Not to mention that some players who don't even use dendro reaction won't pull for her tho so yeah i don't think C2 Nahida is even closed to C2 Furina
Nahida C1 is just incomparable to Furina's, that's why they can never be on the same tier. And for C2 both of them are on par for increasing the entire team's damage, but let's not forget that furina HP gets insanely high which can make her tank the highest damage in the game.
@@napkinx4341 if you need money to make a character good in any way shape or form to do some acceptable damage. That character isn't good. Also hyperbloom raiden is miles better.
Three reasons why I dislike this video- 1) yes furina C2 is better than nahida C2 but that doesn't mean nahida C2 isn't broken (nahida C2 broken tier) 2) I know raiden is not as great as it used to be but putting her C2 below Nilou is not cool ,yes Nilou bloom is the top meta team but that doesn't change the fact that she is super niche whereas raiden is highly versatile (put raiden above Nilou) 3) people don't get hu Tao C1 because it's a big damage increase they get because it's comfy, damage increase is just a part of it ,the same reason why people get child C1 it just makes using him comfy ( Put child in very good C1) . Except for these I completely agree with your tier list.👍
i disagree about nahida c2 should be put in broken tier, especially that the buff applies to every dendro team and all the team not just own self dmg like the other archon c2 ... apart from that i agree with everything. however i insist that nahida should be broken tier ...
@hallyuniverse I think Nahida C2 is broken if you run Alhaitham quickbloom with Nahida. Her C2 gives him a bigger damage boost than his own constellations
I would rate Yelan's constellations top tier just because of overworld exploration utility with C1, saves so much time on the long run and makes the game less annoying on daily tasks. I do agree with the all the rest
To be fair though, you can run C0 Yelan + C0 Wanderer and essentially be fine for all extended traversal except maybe across Sumeru's desert, where you can add Sayu or Kirara, and then you have no downtime.
I guess we are in the weird world where kazuha is more valuable as a grouper than because of reactions. He C2 is a game changer for a lot of traditional reaction teams.
@@_mako that is just failed information, the reason people use Kazuha over Venti is because of his ability to buff %DMG, not the grouping, if all you need is grouping Venti is just the best
In most fights of playing with Kazuha, you can swirl an added element and gain the 3 stacks anyway. C1 imo is more of a comfort constellation, just a really really good one as you won't then need a shielder.
@@icekyuuthat's pretty situational, you can't get another draconic stacks when fighting enemies w non elemental aura/attacks (ruin mobs/bosses like pma)
Thank you thank u so much . I really need this video. Bro I can't thank u enough. Man I was thinking of pulling for constellations . In near future Thank u so much ❤❤
The value of those cons diminishes if you are capable of building ER to hit requirements without them, a casual might accidentally get a lot bigger boost from them if they werent bursting every rotation before getting the cons.
Kazuha deserve that broken tier tbh given that only mono/freeze cant benefit that c2 and literally everyone does, if its not “versatile enough” then no one else is (aside Furina).
I just wanted to keep the higher tiers very small. Also Neuvillette's relative dmg increase is higher compared to raidens. Their consts have similar dmg % impact, but in Neuvillette's case it's increasing dmg that's already above 1 million consistently, while raidens c0 dmg is much below that. Overall I just felt like having Neuvillette as the only carry in the higher tiers.
Its never been that much better than other new options. People just view raiden in a 2.X lense where she was mostly the only good carry released after ayaka. 3.X and 4.X have brought a lot of very strong on fielders who all have good c1 and c2s which together beat out raidens C2.
@@TheGenshinScientist I do understand where you are coming from but then this no longer feels objective. If the goal (and how I feel you addressed all the other characters) is to flatly look at how big an improvement a character's c2 is over their c0, i.e. in a vacuum outside of variables like the current meta, than Raiden is absolutely still broken. Ultimately it doesn't matter, everyone should just play whomever makes them happy, it just felt like Raiden was being looked at under certain criteria that other characters weren't. Incidentally I'd agree with everything else in the video.
@@Corve Bruh C2 raiden is straight up worse than some C0 carries. In a vaccum it might be good, but when you look at the other carries, you realize that they gain more with "worse" constellations, because their initial number was much higher to begin with.
Amazing video as always, was surprised i wasnt subscribed a lot earlier, yours literally my go to creator for anything tc related, you got my sub and my support ❤️‼️
Thanks man, love to see that my 5 favourite characters: Furina, Neuvi, Nahida, Nilou, and my one and only best boy Wanderer all have great-to-broken cons. That said, the biggest winner of the night was my lady, who was VERY happy to hear about Klee's ranking and her awesome C2. A Klee main to the end.
Nahida constellation not being broken is Laughable. The amount of damage it can do is out of this world. Blooms critting and an additional def shred? Take my money
@@heisenburger16 What do you mean her C1 is Ass? It's literally very good. Don't forget her burst gives the on field character a lot of em. Her C1 makes the duration of the burst longer. It also affects her E skill, its damage increases by a certain percentage and increases its hit rate.
If you actually look at the numbers it's not nearly as impressive as Furina's. The bloom crits and additional def shred are mutually exclusive, so you're getting at most around a 20% increase in team damage. Compare that to Furina's, which is almost 20% team damage and 50% personal damage.
"i won't judge these based on how good the character is just on the power of the constellation" also TGS: "raiden isn't broken anymore so 2 spots from broken" (despite a 41% increase)
Because it's not just about the % dmg increase, thats just the summary I used. She's in the same tier as carries that already have high end carry type damage at c0 ( wanderer, lyney ), so even a %dmg increase that's technically lower, can have just as much impact since their base dmg is higher In the same way that's the reason Neuvillette's consts outscale other carries to me
Just when I was searching for a 5 star cons tier list Someone finally released one 😂 I was confused whether or not should I get Nahida C2 or save and get C0 Chiori and C1 Neuvillette.
@@FilledCircle Yeah. After playing for 3 years I want to get some limited 5 star cons. I want to push a character to their limit as far as I can as a f2p. Building new characters is always a hassle than fun specially when you don’t have the weekly boss mats and have been building some other characters. At this point I want to improve some of my characters like Furina and Neuvillette.
@@FilledCircle I think yes and no. Especially when it comes to onfield DPS you don't have to Pull every character, just the ones you like and enjoy, these require a lot of investment, you only have one onfield DPS spot per team and new ones often come along. For Support/SubDPS just pull them, they are like puzzle pieces that help you build new teams with the characters you have fun with
Was recently debating again if I wanna go for Kazuha's C2 for my Childe team, this might have helped me decide to tread very carefully on that. There's just so many teams where it's not that significant... Unfortunate.
This is my crossroads as well. I play international tons so it would be a nice increase for my favorite characters best team but I've minmaxed quite a bit and I don't really find the team lacking anywhere. Plus I would probably have to alter Xiangling's build again since she has an EM sands and my Benny runs instructors.
While on paper it might not seem so amazing but sometimes it can be difficult to fit in that EM that you need. Kazuha c2 is just very very good in the International team. Xiangling will snapshot the EM buff and Childe will get the 200 EM for his burst as Childe normally does not want to invest EM into his stats. Xiangling is also very stat greedy. She wants ER, EM, crit rate, crit damage, and attack % in her stats. This makes Xiangling much easier to gear. Kazuha c2 is often the biggest upgrade you can give the team over something like a 5 star weapon. It is also significant in aggravate teams. Your Keqing or Yae will hit significantly harder when they are on the field. Anyway the constellations listed as great would all be considered broken a few patches ago until Furina showed up. I mean is a 42% increase in damage from Raiden not insane for a constellation? It is just that her base form is not strong from a damage perspective. Meanwhile Neuvillette c2 is nothing amazing. It is just some crit damage. It is 6 or 7 crit damage rolls on an artifact. It is just that the base character is so powerful but it is not a big difference from c1 Neuvillette.
tbh his c2 isnt that good. first of all, there are only 2 teams in the game that appreciate his em buff (international, keqing aggravate and rarely hu tao ayaka melt) secondly, his burst animation is too long (~2s) its considered dmg loss in many teams using bennett. moreover, together with his c1, he usually takes ~4s to do his stuffs which means shorter bennett buff for the on-fielder. so yeah thats why i think its doesnt worth ur primos
@@AzureDrag0n1 Thanks a lot for your thoughts! I actually really like Keqing (though she's still at C0 🥲) so yeah that could be a team he fits in at C2. Will think about it some more and also see how Arlecchino etc. turn out before I decide :)
@@jcp5302Yeah, but being able to face tank everything is a lot more fun than just more damage. This is why I'll always say c1>r1 for Neuvillette despite it being a slightly less dmg increase on paper.
@@voii0777 It really doesn’t even matter since Neuvillette clears everything at C0R0 on pretty much any team he can be in. If anything, getting Furina and up to her C2 would be better for Neuvillette and your whole account in general.
The problem with Neuv, Furina, Nahida, or Yelan having strongest constellations is that it means nothing at all- if you have Neuv, Furina, Nahida, Yelan - you probably aren’t struggling 36 starring the abyss anyway. Getting more constellations at that point isn’t gonna do much
"This video isn't about how good each 5 star at contellation 2" "Proceeds to do exactly that" Neuvilette - "he doesn't need it that much but still a good damage increase in general" - S tier. Raiden - "constellation 2 is immensely good in terms of relative damage increase" - A tier. Ayaka - "whicn can be a lot more damage if connects" - D tier. Yelan - "makes her to apply more hydro" (remark: makes her a proper XQ replacement in every teams except one) - still A tier. etc. Not biased at all. This neuvilette shilling fiesta isn't fun anymore. Unsubscribed.
@@TheGenshinScientistit should have been in his kit not consolation locked, they did him pretty dirty that he is one of the strongest cc in the game but cant suck big enemies, otherwise if he was able to, he will still be one of the strongest characters just like how he was broken before.
I needed this SO badly...Ive been playing long enough I have questions like should I pull Nahida C1 or Cloud Retainer or Raiden C1...what Im saying is I never went for Cons before BUT NOW I have almost all the five stars and basically all the ones I want outside of maybe one or two
About Kazuha: his C1 might not be broken, but it's extremely FUN. Something about doing another E after his burst is just so satisfying. It's also nice for exploration. And his C2 is strong, but it means playing Circle Impact like Benny's burst.
I have to say, I didagree about C1 Itto. Starting your burst with full stacks and not having to spend 2~3s stacking it is a huge QoL to me. I feel like it is about the same as C1 Hu Tao is to C0 but people underestimate Itto a lot. Getting his C1 (no sig) improved my clear times by a lot and I often have a lot of extre time in Abyss now, which is helpful if the other side is struggling. Itto mono geo is often one of the teams I bring if I want a quick clear, only behind Alhaitham (C1R1) and Neuvillette (C1R1) for me.
Since Raiden C2 is such a massive sticking point with people I'll through my 2 cents out there. Her C2 enables Raiden to be played like a Hypercarry. Pre-C2 she's really just above average, DPS-wise. And while that is great for Raiden's personal damage I wouldn't rank that as the same tier as the top 3. Because going down the list; Furina's constellations literally turns her into the undisputed best support in the game. That's universal across all teams. Nahida's C2 is massive buff to all dendro teams and makes her a requisite in almost all the best dendro-reaction teams to hit their damage ceiling. Neuvilette's C1 completely reworks the way his team comp works allowing him to hit his highest damage ceiling easier and gives him infinite interruption resistance. In addition to his C2 giving him a crap ton of Crit Damage bonus.
Itto C1 is really good. By the ranking him niche, he clearly shows that he doesn't have Itto C1. The constellation is like Hu Tao C1 and everyone know how powerful that is.
The mere fact that Nahida Raiden and Yelan are in in great or top tier But neuvi and furina are broken and top tier this is pure bait and recency biased. 18:14
This is a really useful video, i never normally pull for 5 star cons because i like getting new characters but i have so many these days that im starting to consider getting cons for my faves
I definitely need C1Yelan, her equipped with sacrificial bow makes ER regeneration and Hydro application so much better and artifacts only need HP and Crits
8:24 I feel like since this tier list is only evaluating the effect of the constellations and disregarding how good the character is in the meta Raiden should go into "top tier" or maybe even into "broken" because even though Raide C2 isn’t considered the d of Genshin like it once was the god of Genshin like she once was the effect is still broken xD
@@lastorderx20001 the whole point of the video is to compare damage increases from constellations only, in which case c0 to c2 raiden is definitely higher than c0 to c2 nahida.
His C1 is really good. By the ranking him niche, he clearly shows that he doesn't have Itto C1. The constellation is like Hu Tao C1 and everyone know how powerful that is.
Not sure if you specified this tier list is tied to usefulness in the abyss. Some of those constellations with low ratings that help with cooldowns, E charges and energy help make our favourite characters more playable in the overworld.
I heard Cyno`s C2 competes with C2 Raiden, and that C2 Baizhu is basically Nahida replacement, is all that misinformation? And also the ranking C1 and C2 could have been separate, for example you could put C2 Neuvilette in Nice, but his C1 is Top tier
A c0 Nahida replacement, maybe. Not a c2 Nahida replacement. For c2 Baizhu vs c0 Nahida, you trade Nahida's AoE application for better multi-wave application and Nahida's personal damage for healing. But they both can fill the dendro applier slot if dendro app is what you are mainly after.
Cynos c2 is comparable to raidens because he benefits from dmg% more so than other dps so it’s a similar damage upgrade for them both but raidens is probably more raw dmg since cynos c2 mostly benefits his aggravate dmg
I have both Raiden and Cyno at C2 and imo Raiden's is better. It transforms her to become a great DPS, i.e. she can be used in more teams as the carry. Cyno is already great at C0 and doesn't need C2 at all, it's just incremental damage he doesn't need and doesn't change his gameplay or his teams in anyway.
I personally would have great interest in a C1-centric tier list, because I'm of the mind to not chase five-star constellations, but the easing of attacking and party composition provided by Neuvillette's C1 is _tempting._ Since I largely ignore the Spiral Abyss, it's utility that I focus on.
I got C1 Baizhu. and of course I have C6 Bennett. I absolutely do not need to get any other healers anymore. Saves me a lot of primogems to get DPS characters I want.
In my opinion never pull for constellations based on DMG increase, Genshin is an extremely easy game and C0 5stars are more than enough to easily clear everything. Instead, focus on constellations that provide utility, quality of life and gameplay improvement. Constellations that I am glad having pulled for are Wriothesley's C1, Itto's C1 and Hu Tao's C1 because they make using the character more fun.
idk how long ago that happened but if you contact cs fast enough there is a chance you may actually get your weapons back after explaining the situation. i have a friend who once deleted all the five star weapons in rage and still got them back
Disagree on Zhongli. My friend just goes for more constellations on the characters he likes as opposed to getting more characters. So he had Zhongli C2. Since he's the only person I play with, I decided to get the C2 as well so he wouldn't feel HE needed to play Zhongli each time. Maybe not the best reason in the world to pick up 2 copies of a 5 star but it seemed fair to me. Being able to put down an extra pillar (c1) and get an extra shield (c2) is actually massively useful. The pillar is more for teams with another geo character. Way back in the day, I used to use zhongli, albedo, venti (dps version), kazuha as a team for dungeons. Drop a pillar, drop albedo's construct, click the key, hold the pillar on the other side of albedo's construct, knock them up with kazuha and then run back to venti them. Obviously I have better teams but I did have fun with that one. As for the extra shield you get from the ult, I have never found that more useful than when people were whining that you cannot shield through coppelia/coppelius in the spiral abyss. Just keep doing your dps when they hit you with one slash from the sideline and then switch back to zhongli and through the other with his burst and have a nice shield and be ready to go for the next go-around.
Can you do a tier list for signiture weapons? Like I got the verdict with the idea that each time her banner reruns that I could try for more refinements on it.
I just personally feel like nahida's c2 holds more value than c2 furina tbh cause nahida's c2 literally makes meh dendro reactions like burgeon very viable n enable new gamplays !!! And i think farina is replicable in many of her teams but in any dendro team nahida is a staple n thus her c2 holds more value overall cause u can replace a character like farina but cant never replace nahida frm a team cause she is the embodiment of the element denro itself n any future dendro teams will need her period!
If you don't play dendro Nahida is useless while Furina can be slotted into almost any team in the game. Nahida may be marginally stronger but way more niche
Not any teams are dendro teams, first. Furina buffs team damage and becomes low dependant on healers. If it's tough to argue that C0 Furina is best pick in any team, C2 Furina is without a doubt the strongest support in the game.
@@AsunaSniper420 ya i agree that nahida is niche but let's be real her theres a lot of reactions n teams based on many of the reactions in dendro category.. i agree that furina is more universal but tbh nahida is flexible enough like being more flexible than nahida is kinda over capin..
@@Neotridagger tbh no one is talking about c1 here.. c2 can't be obtained without c1 so let's just ditch that argument n see c2 ans a combination of both c1 n c2 .. n ya still nahida is broken at c2
Then hows wriothesley as good as kazuha and yelan if you think I did that? I just reserved higher spots for broken constellations on units that are devastating meta wise, which increases the value of the const itself
@@TheGenshinScientistif you're talking about base c0 to c2 then yeah. I thought from the previous video comment section, this tier list will be like that. Also, saying a constellation is niche is very weird. That character will use it and shouldn't have a separate category. That's the reason why you fill the niche category more than the other.
Can we please get a tier list of actual power for c6 characters? I am mainly thinking getting a c6 since I have some of the early constellations already and can clear abyss easily
No major disagreement except Zhongli. His C2 is at least niche as it allows you to bypass all pillars. You can also then build him for burst damage so it's not always a DPS loss plus you get the best shield in the game. Imo i would put it in Nice, but Niche is understandable. Definitely not Albedo level tho.
As a dolphin who has gone for multiple c1 and c2, I'll say this from experience: To me raiden c2 and yelan c2 are on the same level as neuvi c2. A lot of hype of neuvi is around his base damage being so high and not what c2 brings. I personally stopped at c1 as there was nothing I needed c2 for. Ganyu c1, shenhe c1, wrio c1 are all on the same level as hutao c1 in that they are more of playstyle improvement than damage. Baizhu and zhongli c2 have come in clutch in more cases than I am willing to admit. It saves so much of your time and mental focus And finally for klee, yae, ayaka, and raiden don't go for c1 unless you are ready to c2. They are dead onvestment otherwise. Obviously all my suggested changes come after the characters that are already tiered. No way I'll say raiden and yelan c2 should be before Neuvilette
Hutao C1 is very comfortable, and Ganyu C6 feels like a complete character from A FPS Hero shooter. Nahidas C2 is a str8 damage boost like Raidens one, those ones are kinda eh.
heyho...i really like this content...i would probl like to see a ranking of all constellation for each 5* but i thk thats a lot of work n some of ur content alredy does it. with all dat said...maybe its just me but the background music was irritating my ears 😢it was not loud enuf/low to the point where it was getting annoying while u were talking. other than that keep up with the good work. atm ur my number 1 go to for genshin content 😄
I pulled c1 but was worried about c2 if it would make using Key worse. I have Mistsplitter r2 as another option. Would her c2 or signature be better or is it really worth getting both?
@@dakotadawes2893 you can just run ER sands and hydro dmg goblet if you are worried about having too much HP, C2 is way better than R1, more personal dmg increase and more team dmg buffs. Festering desire or Fontaine's Pipe are solid weapons if you don't wanna run ER sands
While you could say cons of Furina/Nahida/Raiden one the best but for me, they fall low in comparison to Yelan's and bring nothing to table expect few sec faster clear end game content Abyss. Which is perfectly very much doable with even C0. I can't imagine to play genshin without Yelan anymore, especially her C1 is so much overall boost (Every cons of hers are best)... Like how much she makes exploration, domains and dailys so easy and fast, who just login to commission... It's insane.
Xianyun would go to great, tighnari nice, dehya amazing c1
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Keqing obviously has the best C2 in the game by far though!
Would love to hear your take on Xianyun's C1 and C2 putting her in great--I haven't really seen anything on her cons. Thanks so much for this list! Extremely helpful.
Her c1 is kinda like baizhu's one, just used for enery generation. Anda her c2 is a quite big dmg increase for the plunge attacks your teammate makes@@georgemacdonald8667
@@georgemacdonald8667i think the c2 doubles her buff
Too niche to be on great.
Aloy C1 and C2 clear all
Aloy solos floor 13
It's also pretty cheap, you just gotta buy 2 PS5s, and that also gives you a skin selector!
Game breaking
Oh yeah? Just wait till they add Spiderman to genshin 🥱
They’re out of this world.
Really like the idea! Would be interesting to see a similar tier list but about how much each character benefits from their signature
I like the sound of this
zhongli: **sighs**
@@TheGenshinScientistid loveeeee this!!!
@@bored_potatoain’t his signature homa?
i think it's vortex vanquisher, homa is hu tao's signature@@santabakure6264
Don't forget, Yelan C1 makes exploration easier, and Baizhu's C2 works underwater.
Yelan C1 is probably my fav early con. 👌
Is amazing QOF constelation, you can get the content in less time.
Not only that, with sacrificial bow u can use ur skill like Three times with huge ER regeneration and extra damage and hydro application, so ur artifacts only need HP and Crit. It's definitely a big W constellation
You don’t even need it in open world. You can always run two taxi characters. we have enough so why spend 160 pulls
@@miscellaneous7777 You don't "need" anything in genshin, but we still get like 80 wishes /patch, even more with welkin. With yelan C1 all my mobility needs are covered and 3 can bring 3 characters I like (and I like yelan too).
Yes, for those who don't like yelan or don't want to spend wishes on a con, they have other options.
I'll try to get xy C1 for the same reason as c1 yelan.
Keep in mind that this tierlist talks about how good each constellation is as increases over the C0 character, NOT how good each character is relative to each other at C2. For example, C2 Raiden is a bigger increase over C0 Raiden than C2 Alhaitham is over C0 Alhaitham, but that does not make Raiden a better carry than Alhaitham at C2.
It does tho what?
@@phorealthistime6165it doesn’t. TGS literally said it in the first 30 seconds of the video
Coincidentally Furina C2 also happens to be the strongest character in the game 🙂
@@Praxium True
It's hard to take a hyperbloom hater seriously but yea.
Thank god they gave Xianyun such an amazing C2, it helps make up for Xiao and Hu Tao's terrible C2
They'll never forsake liyue characters
New characters definitely have better C2s looking at this.
Its the powercreep people kept saying would never happen.
@@Elrog3 what's the point of powercreep if people can clear hardest content with old plain diluc and qiqi?
@@leblancattire5951 Older units become less attractive pull. Nuvilette powercrept ayato so much as hydro dps that it's unlikely many will pul ayato from so on.
@@leblancattire5951it incentivises spending for those who were already in the edge of doing so
@@Zafar_Askarov This, has almost zero relation to what @leblancattire5951 's point of saying?
I think if you use baizhu, that c1 makes a pretty big difference, especially for energy, and the c2 ends up doing a lot more for application than i thought. if hes the only dendro on the team those cons make a world of difference. i would personally put him higher but that really the only thing i disagree with on this list overall
nilou and nahida c2 are broken, its much more than a 20 damage increase
i agree. baizhu is one of my favorite characters, and getting his c1 was a happy accident on his debut banner (i was struggling to pull kaveh LOL). i'm able to run 130 er on him and burst on cooldown. it makes a drastic difference for energy regen and dendro application. i find it's a very valuable and comfortable constellation
Or use sacrificial tome, it's double healing and double application with better energy orbs generation
I feel like the disclaimer about not ranking the characters resulting power at c2 but rather the c1-c2 itself went out the window a little with Nuev and Raiden.
yeah +41% dmg increase for raiden is a top tier cons even if she's not as meta anymore
@@mickysaif41% more dmg is the most pull value to compare with other constelations.
Neuvi has the best carry constellations in the game tho, immense dmg increase + full interruptuon resistance
Yea but the massive increase raiden gets from a sole early constellation... which is better than most c6s@TheGenshinScientist
@@itz_andi9691 The C6 part was true in 2.1, when Raiden came out.
Ever since Sumeru came out they started putting great early constellations on every character, if you notice except klee the carries in the same tier as Raiden all came out after her
List is great but you have Raiden fatique. No way that a 41% damage increase with her C2 isn't in Top tier. It's more damage than almost any other constellation listed.
i really love how you do f2p AND higher investment content!!! great work as always :-)
I would definitely rate baizhu a bit higher. Dendro app for simply existing is great and will probably be even better as time goes on
I probably would have bumped Yelan up a tier. Large damage increase, application increase and qol increase feels a lot better than the others in the tier.
Nahida and Furina's C2, are just the best Cons in the entirety of the game, by far.
I literally just started looking into constellations, as I now have all the characters I want. This could not have come at a better time
lmfao same! i never thought about a character's cons until i looked at furina's!
@@plvto1 oh yes her (early) cons are soo strong!
Some changes I would have made here is moving Nahida directly to Furina into "Broken", because her c2 is. She fundamentally changes how transformative reactions work by literally making them crit, which works in Hyperbloom, Nolou Bloom, and Burgeon. But not only that, it lowers enemies defence when hit by Quicken based reactions. Which increases EVERYONE'S damage. As opposed to just her own. And naturally, neither of these scenario's are mutually exlusive from each other.
I would also argue Ganyu should be in "Nice" rather than Niche, because there is nothing "Niche" about just having a straight up damage increase by way of reducing resistances.
I would also move Ayaka up just because of the scale in increased damage her c2 can provide.
Baizhu should probably need to be moved up as a straight up increase to overall healing and dendro application shouldn't be underestimated, especially in context of the teams he is typically played in.
C2 Nahida is good at everyteam which need dendro reaction while C2 Furina increases everyteam's dmg, every dps's dmg. Not to mention that some players who don't even use dendro reaction won't pull for her tho so yeah i don't think C2 Nahida is even closed to C2 Furina
Nahida C1 is just incomparable to Furina's, that's why they can never be on the same tier. And for C2 both of them are on par for increasing the entire team's damage, but let's not forget that furina HP gets insanely high which can make her tank the highest damage in the game.
raiden c2 should definitely be on the neuvi tier
Raiden is not really that good
@@blackfoxgames4431 maybe yours isn’t, my hypercarry c2 raiden clears floor 12 nearly as fast as my c1 neuvi
@@blackfoxgames4431 maybe yours isn’t, my hypercarry c2 raiden clears floor 12 nearly as fast as my c1 neuvi
@@napkinx4341 if you need money to make a character good in any way shape or form to do some acceptable damage. That character isn't good. Also hyperbloom raiden is miles better.
@@blackfoxgames4431 this video is about constellations not if she’s good at c0 😭😭
Three reasons why I dislike this video-
1) yes furina C2 is better than nahida C2 but that doesn't mean nahida C2 isn't broken (nahida C2 broken tier)
2) I know raiden is not as great as it used to be but putting her C2 below Nilou is not cool ,yes Nilou bloom is the top meta team but that doesn't change the fact that she is super niche whereas raiden is highly versatile (put raiden above Nilou)
3) people don't get hu Tao C1 because it's a big damage increase they get because it's comfy, damage increase is just a part of it ,the same reason why people get child C1 it just makes using him comfy ( Put child in very good C1)
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Except for these I completely agree with your tier list.👍
furina works in almost any team and is often bis, nahida doesn't.
i disagree about nahida c2 should be put in broken tier, especially that the buff applies to every dendro team and all the team not just own self dmg like the other archon c2 ... apart from that i agree with everything. however i insist that nahida should be broken tier ...
Nahida C2 would be broken tier if the Crit Chance/Damage wasn't set at a fixed rate and scaled. Still one of the best C2s in the game though.
@hallyuniverse I think Nahida C2 is broken if you run Alhaitham quickbloom with Nahida. Her C2 gives him a bigger damage boost than his own constellations
ur right on this matter in fact her c2 is kinda considered the wepaon and cons for all teams that rely on Dendro XD@@nickt463
I would rate Yelan's constellations top tier just because of overworld exploration utility with C1, saves so much time on the long run and makes the game less annoying on daily tasks. I do agree with the all the rest
To be fair though, you can run C0 Yelan + C0 Wanderer and essentially be fine for all extended traversal except maybe across Sumeru's desert, where you can add Sayu or Kirara, and then you have no downtime.
Sure but that’s two 5 star characters
Sure but that’s two 5 star characters
Sure but that’s two 5 star characters
Sure but that’s two 5 star characters
I guess we are in the weird world where kazuha is more valuable as a grouper than because of reactions. He C2 is a game changer for a lot of traditional reaction teams.
that not even close to true, if that was case, venti would be the best unit for every abyss
@@ChAnTAxR venti is a shit grouper in most situations, he's too niche which is what holds him back
@@ChAnTAxR venti does grouping? 90% of the enemies aren't affected to his ult lol
@@_makoisn’t venti a better grouper than kazuha. He just doesn’t buff like kazuha
@@_mako that is just failed information, the reason people use Kazuha over Venti is because of his ability to buff %DMG, not the grouping, if all you need is grouping Venti is just the best
Neuv's C1 also let him to run Furina without losing his 3rd stack's potential damage, which makes it an insane constellation.
In most fights of playing with Kazuha, you can swirl an added element and gain the 3 stacks anyway. C1 imo is more of a comfort constellation, just a really really good one as you won't then need a shielder.
@@icekyuuthat's pretty situational, you can't get another draconic stacks when fighting enemies w non elemental aura/attacks (ruin mobs/bosses like pma)
@@icekyuuBy removing a shielder you can also start to slot in more damaging units, which C1 helps to do that.
@@icekyuu You mean enemies who have elemental on them? That's a very small # of enemies
now Xilo top tier/broken , Mavuika will be top tier/broken too 😂
As a dps venti user, i see his constellations as an absolute win 😂 definitely niche though! Your content is wonderful, this is very helpful!
Raiden not being at least top tier is absolutely wild.
bro lives in 2.1
Harsh reality 😂
Nahida C2 and Furina C2 is teamwide damage increase. Raiden C2 is only for her damage.
@@jshi6279you don’t understand how cons work do you huh
@@Nightmare.853it’s enough to still compare to other characters c6…
Thank you thank u so much . I really need this video.
Bro I can't thank u enough. Man I was thinking of pulling for constellations . In near future
Thank u so much ❤❤
was just wondering about this yesterday, its like you and the youtube algorithm read my mind lol. Thank you so much for the video!
Great video! Im maybe weird any of the energy generation/refund style cons are my favorite, having bursts easier is best QoL for me.
I think TGS undervalues utility contellations especially energy genereting ones.
But he is still looking at the dmg increase? Less er = more dmg substats, but the more dmg substats dont do that much power level
The value of those cons diminishes if you are capable of building ER to hit requirements without them, a casual might accidentally get a lot bigger boost from them if they werent bursting every rotation before getting the cons.
Very helpful guide! As someone who is aiming for c2 Raiden and Scara as f2p it's very good for me! ❤❤❤
yelan c1 seems alright until u use her and see how crazy good it is.. her best cons is c1 no doubt after c6 and it's way better than weapon
Yeah I skipped her weapon and got her c2. I use slingshot 80/200 cr on eosf. Her throws hit for around 10k and her skill over 20k
One of the best videos... man your content quality is "broken" I need you to cover everything about Genshin xD
Kazuha deserve that broken tier tbh given that only mono/freeze cant benefit that c2 and literally everyone does, if its not “versatile enough” then no one else is (aside Furina).
I’m willing to hear an argument that Raiden’s c2 isn’t broken anymore but not putting her in top tier feels personal and wrong.
I just wanted to keep the higher tiers very small.
Also Neuvillette's relative dmg increase is higher compared to raidens. Their consts have similar dmg % impact, but in Neuvillette's case it's increasing dmg that's already above 1 million consistently, while raidens c0 dmg is much below that.
Overall I just felt like having Neuvillette as the only carry in the higher tiers.
Its never been that much better than other new options. People just view raiden in a 2.X lense where she was mostly the only good carry released after ayaka.
3.X and 4.X have brought a lot of very strong on fielders who all have good c1 and c2s which together beat out raidens C2.
@@TheGenshinScientist I do understand where you are coming from but then this no longer feels objective. If the goal (and how I feel you addressed all the other characters) is to flatly look at how big an improvement a character's c2 is over their c0, i.e. in a vacuum outside of variables like the current meta, than Raiden is absolutely still broken. Ultimately it doesn't matter, everyone should just play whomever makes them happy, it just felt like Raiden was being looked at under certain criteria that other characters weren't. Incidentally I'd agree with everything else in the video.
@@Corve Bruh C2 raiden is straight up worse than some C0 carries. In a vaccum it might be good, but when you look at the other carries, you realize that they gain more with "worse" constellations, because their initial number was much higher to begin with.
@@musicaddict9058but that's not how good the constellation is but how good the character is to begin with, and the video is about constellations
Amazing video as always, was surprised i wasnt subscribed a lot earlier, yours literally my go to creator for anything tc related, you got my sub and my support ❤️‼️
It was an absolute win to go for c2r1 furina as an f2p💪
Love your content, always so well informed and prepared. Thanks so much!
Thanks man, love to see that my 5 favourite characters: Furina, Neuvi, Nahida, Nilou, and my one and only best boy Wanderer all have great-to-broken cons. That said, the biggest winner of the night was my lady, who was VERY happy to hear about Klee's ranking and her awesome C2. A Klee main to the end.
Nahida constellation not being broken is Laughable. The amount of damage it can do is out of this world. Blooms critting and an additional def shred? Take my money
Yea but her c1 is ass, same for Raiden, unlike Furina’s C1 AND C2 which are great increase in dmg.
@@heisenburger16 What do you mean her C1 is Ass? It's literally very good.
Don't forget her burst gives the on field character a lot of em. Her C1 makes the duration of the burst longer.
It also affects her E skill, its damage increases by a certain percentage and increases its hit rate.
If you actually look at the numbers it's not nearly as impressive as Furina's. The bloom crits and additional def shred are mutually exclusive, so you're getting at most around a 20% increase in team damage. Compare that to Furina's, which is almost 20% team damage and 50% personal damage.
Literally just look at the math bro, stop feelcrafting.
"i won't judge these based on how good the character is just on the power of the constellation"
also TGS: "raiden isn't broken anymore so 2 spots from broken" (despite a 41% increase)
Because it's not just about the % dmg increase, thats just the summary I used. She's in the same tier as carries that already have high end carry type damage at c0 ( wanderer, lyney ), so even a %dmg increase that's technically lower, can have just as much impact since their base dmg is higher
In the same way that's the reason Neuvillette's consts outscale other carries to me
when someone tells the person who made the tierlist why their subjective opinion is wrong:
C0 arle nev mulani navia>
Just when I was searching for a 5 star cons tier list
Someone finally released one 😂
I was confused whether or not should I get Nahida C2 or save and get C0 Chiori and C1 Neuvillette.
New characters are almost always better than a constellation. Because more options is more fun!
@@FilledCircle Yeah. After playing for 3 years I want to get some limited 5 star cons. I want to push a character to their limit as far as I can as a f2p. Building new characters is always a hassle than fun specially when you don’t have the weekly boss mats and have been building some other characters.
At this point I want to improve some of my characters like Furina and Neuvillette.
@@FilledCircle I think yes and no.
Especially when it comes to onfield DPS you don't have to Pull every character, just the ones you like and enjoy, these require a lot of investment, you only have one onfield DPS spot per team and new ones often come along.
For Support/SubDPS just pull them, they are like puzzle pieces that help you build new teams with the characters you have fun with
Was recently debating again if I wanna go for Kazuha's C2 for my Childe team, this might have helped me decide to tread very carefully on that. There's just so many teams where it's not that significant... Unfortunate.
you can also run instructor bennett which is already 120 em so more em from kazuha will diminish
This is my crossroads as well. I play international tons so it would be a nice increase for my favorite characters best team but I've minmaxed quite a bit and I don't really find the team lacking anywhere. Plus I would probably have to alter Xiangling's build again since she has an EM sands and my Benny runs instructors.
While on paper it might not seem so amazing but sometimes it can be difficult to fit in that EM that you need. Kazuha c2 is just very very good in the International team. Xiangling will snapshot the EM buff and Childe will get the 200 EM for his burst as Childe normally does not want to invest EM into his stats. Xiangling is also very stat greedy. She wants ER, EM, crit rate, crit damage, and attack % in her stats. This makes Xiangling much easier to gear. Kazuha c2 is often the biggest upgrade you can give the team over something like a 5 star weapon. It is also significant in aggravate teams. Your Keqing or Yae will hit significantly harder when they are on the field.
Anyway the constellations listed as great would all be considered broken a few patches ago until Furina showed up. I mean is a 42% increase in damage from Raiden not insane for a constellation? It is just that her base form is not strong from a damage perspective. Meanwhile Neuvillette c2 is nothing amazing. It is just some crit damage. It is 6 or 7 crit damage rolls on an artifact. It is just that the base character is so powerful but it is not a big difference from c1 Neuvillette.
tbh his c2 isnt that good.
first of all, there are only 2 teams in the game that appreciate his em buff (international, keqing aggravate and rarely hu tao ayaka melt)
secondly, his burst animation is too long (~2s) its considered dmg loss in many teams using bennett. moreover, together with his c1, he usually takes ~4s to do his stuffs which means shorter bennett buff for the on-fielder.
so yeah thats why i think its doesnt worth ur primos
@@AzureDrag0n1 Thanks a lot for your thoughts! I actually really like Keqing (though she's still at C0 🥲) so yeah that could be a team he fits in at C2. Will think about it some more and also see how Arlecchino etc. turn out before I decide :)
I was going back and forth on who to get cons for and this video was so helpful!! thank you!
The end lmfao, nice list regardless, the only thing i would change is baizhu, one tier up or two
can't wait to get c1 neuvi wasn't able to the first time it's so comfy
As a C1 Neuvillette haver, I can just not care about anything basically
@@Mr_AntiSocialAs a C0R1 user I already just don’t care about anything.
@@jcp5302Yeah, but being able to face tank everything is a lot more fun than just more damage. This is why I'll always say c1>r1 for Neuvillette despite it being a slightly less dmg increase on paper.
@@voii0777 It really doesn’t even matter since Neuvillette clears everything at C0R0 on pretty much any team he can be in. If anything, getting Furina and up to her C2 would be better for Neuvillette and your whole account in general.
I would love to see a C6 tierlist
The problem with Neuv, Furina, Nahida, or Yelan having strongest constellations is that it means nothing at all- if you have Neuv, Furina, Nahida, Yelan - you probably aren’t struggling 36 starring the abyss anyway. Getting more constellations at that point isn’t gonna do much
People who fell for the Raiden C3R1 meme malding the comments.
"This video isn't about how good each 5 star at contellation 2"
"Proceeds to do exactly that"
Neuvilette - "he doesn't need it that much but still a good damage increase in general" - S tier.
Raiden - "constellation 2 is immensely good in terms of relative damage increase" - A tier.
Ayaka - "whicn can be a lot more damage if connects" - D tier.
Yelan - "makes her to apply more hydro" (remark: makes her a proper XQ replacement in every teams except one) - still A tier.
etc.
Not biased at all. This neuvilette shilling fiesta isn't fun anymore. Unsubscribed.
If they were to release Venti now, what are your guessess for his c2?
His burst magically becomes able to suck in every opponent
@@TheGenshinScientistit should have been in his kit not consolation locked, they did him pretty dirty that he is one of the strongest cc in the game but cant suck big enemies, otherwise if he was able to, he will still be one of the strongest characters just like how he was broken before.
I don't see any logical reasoning to place C2 Raiden so low. It is misleading.
its just that others c2 are more broken
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I needed this SO badly...Ive been playing long enough I have questions like should I pull Nahida C1 or Cloud Retainer or Raiden C1...what Im saying is I never went for Cons before BUT NOW I have almost all the five stars and basically all the ones I want outside of maybe one or two
About Kazuha: his C1 might not be broken, but it's extremely FUN. Something about doing another E after his burst is just so satisfying. It's also nice for exploration. And his C2 is strong, but it means playing Circle Impact like Benny's burst.
How is raidens c2 not at the top of this list if its the most valuable
I have to say, I didagree about C1 Itto. Starting your burst with full stacks and not having to spend 2~3s stacking it is a huge QoL to me. I feel like it is about the same as C1 Hu Tao is to C0 but people underestimate Itto a lot. Getting his C1 (no sig) improved my clear times by a lot and I often have a lot of extre time in Abyss now, which is helpful if the other side is struggling.
Itto mono geo is often one of the teams I bring if I want a quick clear, only behind Alhaitham (C1R1) and Neuvillette (C1R1) for me.
i think tgs is the only theory crafter i trust 100%
dont get me wrong they all do good stuff but this guy just knows whats up
Since Raiden C2 is such a massive sticking point with people I'll through my 2 cents out there. Her C2 enables Raiden to be played like a Hypercarry. Pre-C2 she's really just above average, DPS-wise. And while that is great for Raiden's personal damage I wouldn't rank that as the same tier as the top 3. Because going down the list;
Furina's constellations literally turns her into the undisputed best support in the game. That's universal across all teams.
Nahida's C2 is massive buff to all dendro teams and makes her a requisite in almost all the best dendro-reaction teams to hit their damage ceiling.
Neuvilette's C1 completely reworks the way his team comp works allowing him to hit his highest damage ceiling easier and gives him infinite interruption resistance. In addition to his C2 giving him a crap ton of Crit Damage bonus.
Itto C1 is really good. By the ranking him niche, he clearly shows that he doesn't have Itto C1. The constellation is like Hu Tao C1 and everyone know how powerful that is.
The mere fact that Nahida Raiden and Yelan are in in great or top tier
But neuvi and furina are broken and top tier this is pure bait and recency biased. 18:14
This is a really useful video, i never normally pull for 5 star cons because i like getting new characters but i have so many these days that im starting to consider getting cons for my faves
I definitely need C1Yelan, her equipped with sacrificial bow makes ER regeneration and Hydro application so much better and artifacts only need HP and Crits
8:24 I feel like since this tier list is only evaluating the effect of the constellations and disregarding how good the character is in the meta Raiden should go into "top tier" or maybe even into "broken" because even though Raide C2 isn’t considered the d of Genshin like it once was the god of Genshin like she once was the effect is still broken xD
C2 Nahida far outscales C2 Raiden meta-wise, even C3 Raiden
@@lastorderx20001 Did you not listen the part where he said that this video *_disregards_* the meta?
@@ATMEIDAREYAIDOUBLEDAREYA if you are talking about damage increase, c0 Raiden hyperbloom is not far off compared to c2 Raiden hypercarry
@@lastorderx20001 the whole point of the video is to compare damage increases from constellations only, in which case c0 to c2 raiden is definitely higher than c0 to c2 nahida.
@@emcey6330 but C0 Raiden's hypercarry team is simply not the best for her
I do feel like Itto's C2 is underrated. Among Itto mains, it's really known to be a huge QoL for bursting.
His C1 is really good. By the ranking him niche, he clearly shows that he doesn't have Itto C1. The constellation is like Hu Tao C1 and everyone know how powerful that is.
I think you are spot on which each and every character. Big thumbs of from me!
Would be nice to see a video for each character if it's better value to go for their weapon or early cons.
I agree that Furina c2 is the best constellation since her c1 is also great. Her personal dps is no joke
Good Tierlist , Keep up the informative content ^^ 🤍
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Yelan C2 should be Top Tier as well.
Does c1 zhongli become more valuable because of/with chiori?
Not sure if you specified this tier list is tied to usefulness in the abyss. Some of those constellations with low ratings that help with cooldowns, E charges and energy help make our favourite characters more playable in the overworld.
I heard Cyno`s C2 competes with C2 Raiden, and that C2 Baizhu is basically Nahida replacement, is all that misinformation?
And also the ranking C1 and C2 could have been separate, for example you could put C2 Neuvilette in Nice, but his C1 is Top tier
A c0 Nahida replacement, maybe. Not a c2 Nahida replacement. For c2 Baizhu vs c0 Nahida, you trade Nahida's AoE application for better multi-wave application and Nahida's personal damage for healing. But they both can fill the dendro applier slot if dendro app is what you are mainly after.
Cynos c2 is comparable to raidens because he benefits from dmg% more so than other dps so it’s a similar damage upgrade for them both but raidens is probably more raw dmg since cynos c2 mostly benefits his aggravate dmg
I have both Raiden and Cyno at C2 and imo Raiden's is better. It transforms her to become a great DPS, i.e. she can be used in more teams as the carry. Cyno is already great at C0 and doesn't need C2 at all, it's just incremental damage he doesn't need and doesn't change his gameplay or his teams in anyway.
I personally would have great interest in a C1-centric tier list, because I'm of the mind to not chase five-star constellations, but the easing of attacking and party composition provided by Neuvillette's C1 is _tempting._ Since I largely ignore the Spiral Abyss, it's utility that I focus on.
Liyue, the nation of "adds additional charge to skill" constellation
I got C1 Baizhu. and of course I have C6 Bennett. I absolutely do not need to get any other healers anymore. Saves me a lot of primogems to get DPS characters I want.
In my opinion never pull for constellations based on DMG increase, Genshin is an extremely easy game and C0 5stars are more than enough to easily clear everything.
Instead, focus on constellations that provide utility, quality of life and gameplay improvement. Constellations that I am glad having pulled for are Wriothesley's C1, Itto's C1 and Hu Tao's C1 because they make using the character more fun.
Agreed. I almost wanna pull for Yae C2 not for the increased damage but for the increased turret range. Her range at C2 is kinda silly.
Its a tier list of best character at early cons
Imo Raiden deserved to be under neuvillette but in the same tier (and definitely over yelan)
Good video though
silly little theorycrafter says he doesn't judge the characters at C2 but the constellations themselves and then judges the characters at C2 🥰
I'm so glad I spent all the primos i saved since starting (400~) and got c3 furina
Raiden C2: ignore 60% of opponents’ defense when in burst form.
Keqing C2: generate 1 elemental particle every 5 seconds, with a 50% chance. 😢
i got c2 furina but my account just got hacked and hacker deleted my all 12 cignature weapons now i am using all 4 star weapons
yeah i heard it happened to a lot of people
idk how long ago that happened but if you contact cs fast enough there is a chance you may actually get your weapons back after explaining the situation. i have a friend who once deleted all the five star weapons in rage and still got them back
Disagree on Zhongli. My friend just goes for more constellations on the characters he likes as opposed to getting more characters. So he had Zhongli C2. Since he's the only person I play with, I decided to get the C2 as well so he wouldn't feel HE needed to play Zhongli each time. Maybe not the best reason in the world to pick up 2 copies of a 5 star but it seemed fair to me.
Being able to put down an extra pillar (c1) and get an extra shield (c2) is actually massively useful. The pillar is more for teams with another geo character. Way back in the day, I used to use zhongli, albedo, venti (dps version), kazuha as a team for dungeons. Drop a pillar, drop albedo's construct, click the key, hold the pillar on the other side of albedo's construct, knock them up with kazuha and then run back to venti them. Obviously I have better teams but I did have fun with that one. As for the extra shield you get from the ult, I have never found that more useful than when people were whining that you cannot shield through coppelia/coppelius in the spiral abyss. Just keep doing your dps when they hit you with one slash from the sideline and then switch back to zhongli and through the other with his burst and have a nice shield and be ready to go for the next go-around.
probably first tierlist where im agree 100%
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Can you do a tier list for signiture weapons? Like I got the verdict with the idea that each time her banner reruns that I could try for more refinements on it.
Nice tier list, quality content.
I just personally feel like nahida's c2 holds more value than c2 furina tbh cause nahida's c2 literally makes meh dendro reactions like burgeon very viable n enable new gamplays !!! And i think farina is replicable in many of her teams but in any dendro team nahida is a staple n thus her c2 holds more value overall cause u can replace a character like farina but cant never replace nahida frm a team cause she is the embodiment of the element denro itself n any future dendro teams will need her period!
If you don't play dendro Nahida is useless while Furina can be slotted into almost any team in the game. Nahida may be marginally stronger but way more niche
Not any teams are dendro teams, first. Furina buffs team damage and becomes low dependant on healers. If it's tough to argue that C0 Furina is best pick in any team, C2 Furina is without a doubt the strongest support in the game.
Her c2 is insane but her c1 is not that great or even useless in some comps. Furina's both c1 and c2 are crazy good
@@AsunaSniper420 ya i agree that nahida is niche but let's be real her theres a lot of reactions n teams based on many of the reactions in dendro category.. i agree that furina is more universal but tbh nahida is flexible enough like being more flexible than nahida is kinda over capin..
@@Neotridagger tbh no one is talking about c1 here.. c2 can't be obtained without c1 so let's just ditch that argument n see c2 ans a combination of both c1 n c2 .. n ya still nahida is broken at c2
With Ganyu’s new best team(burnmelt), her c1 is now much better with 16%~ dmg increase.
C2 raiden deserved a great tear at least… “I am not doing a 5 star c2 tier list” I think that’s exacly what you did…
Then hows wriothesley as good as kazuha and yelan if you think I did that?
I just reserved higher spots for broken constellations on units that are devastating meta wise, which increases the value of the const itself
@@TheGenshinScientistif you're talking about base c0 to c2 then yeah. I thought from the previous video comment section, this tier list will be like that. Also, saying a constellation is niche is very weird. That character will use it and shouldn't have a separate category. That's the reason why you fill the niche category more than the other.
Can we please get a tier list of actual power for c6 characters? I am mainly thinking getting a c6 since I have some of the early constellations already and can clear abyss easily
No major disagreement except Zhongli. His C2 is at least niche as it allows you to bypass all pillars. You can also then build him for burst damage so it's not always a DPS loss plus you get the best shield in the game. Imo i would put it in Nice, but Niche is understandable. Definitely not Albedo level tho.
As a dolphin who has gone for multiple c1 and c2, I'll say this from experience:
To me raiden c2 and yelan c2 are on the same level as neuvi c2. A lot of hype of neuvi is around his base damage being so high and not what c2 brings. I personally stopped at c1 as there was nothing I needed c2 for.
Ganyu c1, shenhe c1, wrio c1 are all on the same level as hutao c1 in that they are more of playstyle improvement than damage.
Baizhu and zhongli c2 have come in clutch in more cases than I am willing to admit. It saves so much of your time and mental focus
And finally for klee, yae, ayaka, and raiden don't go for c1 unless you are ready to c2. They are dead onvestment otherwise.
Obviously all my suggested changes come after the characters that are already tiered. No way I'll say raiden and yelan c2 should be before Neuvilette
seems like a tier list made from reading kqm overview instead of actually playing said characters.
Nahida has the goat C2, trying to stop myself from rolling for it so I can get Xianyun😭
Clearing 5 to 10 sec faster with Cons are Bs, more characters easily better even if you’re veteran
Hutao C1 is very comfortable, and Ganyu C6 feels like a complete character from A FPS Hero shooter.
Nahidas C2 is a str8 damage boost like Raidens one, those ones are kinda eh.
@@darkheartrif Ok, but recognize that that is a vague value judgement. Meta-wise, horizontal investment is overrated greatly.
@@Elrog3Nah seeing bigger numbers and enemies exploding gives more dopamine rush to my brain.
Baizhu C1 is really useful, donno, a charge of the skill is definitely not enough for healing especially if your characters are almost down
heyho...i really like this content...i would probl like to see a ranking of all constellation for each 5* but i thk thats a lot of work n some of ur content alredy does it. with all dat said...maybe its just me but the background music was irritating my ears 😢it was not loud enuf/low to the point where it was getting annoying while u were talking. other than that keep up with the good work. atm ur my number 1 go to for genshin content 😄
What are your thoughts on Furina c2 if you run her with the Key of Khaj Nisut?
I pulled c1 but was worried about c2 if it would make using Key worse. I have Mistsplitter r2 as another option. Would her c2 or signature be better or is it really worth getting both?
@@dakotadawes2893 you can just run ER sands and hydro dmg goblet if you are worried about having too much HP, C2 is way better than R1, more personal dmg increase and more team dmg buffs. Festering desire or Fontaine's Pipe are solid weapons if you don't wanna run ER sands
@@marcomeinhof5393 I already run ER sands
@@marcomeinhof5393 I’ll use hydro goblet I guess. Thanks.
19:32 Wait, that *wasn't* intentional? lol
While you could say cons of Furina/Nahida/Raiden one the best but for me, they fall low in comparison to Yelan's and bring nothing to table expect few sec faster clear end game content Abyss. Which is perfectly very much doable with even C0.
I can't imagine to play genshin without Yelan anymore, especially her C1 is so much overall boost (Every cons of hers are best)... Like how much she makes exploration, domains and dailys so easy and fast, who just login to commission... It's insane.