EVERYTHING You Need to Know About Sigewinne! | Complete Kit, Build, Teams Guide & Meta Analysis

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  • @blank-42
    @blank-42 3 місяці тому +244

    I don’t care about her multipliers I will end the world with a cuteness overload

    • @-chiraimu
      @-chiraimu 3 місяці тому +6

      REAL

    • @nyappytownx4128
      @nyappytownx4128 3 місяці тому +2

      I’ve been waiting for her since she leaked and she was by far the character next to Furina I was the most excited for… her it is unfortunate but my love for her is eternal.

  • @V5ian
    @V5ian 3 місяці тому +136

    I don't care if she's a doctor, that needle is going to HURT
    DPS SIGEWINNE WANTERS RISE

  • @lefterismplanas4977
    @lefterismplanas4977 3 місяці тому +75

    One other difference with Kokomi that ypu didn't mention is that sigewine's heals don't require you to stay under a jellyfish!

    • @TheObesa89
      @TheObesa89 3 місяці тому +8

      Kind of important

  • @eggday9079
    @eggday9079 3 місяці тому +36

    I have Kokomi BUT Sigewinne is just too adorable i can't not get her!!

  • @picklerick2861
    @picklerick2861 3 місяці тому +179

    I'm starting to see a pattern with how the more popular creators make Sigewinne seem like a waste, basically spreading misinformation to the vast majority of the community, while the less popular ones spend time looking for what she's good at. Which is a lot.
    It's really annoying to have this kind of dynamic but whatever.
    Great video, from what I've looked into with her kit and teams I can only possibly add one thing, that being that a healing % artifact with a high HP% sub stat would probably be be better than full HP since she focuses so much on the healing. Other than that this is a great guide for going in depth about her teams and kit and the best I've seen so far for actual team comps.

    • @OP-vf9yk
      @OP-vf9yk 3 місяці тому +38

      I completely agree. It’s so annoying to see everyone downplay a new character just because they don’t kill everything in .5 seconds. Like it’s just a game, we should focus on having fun and that’s exactly why I’m gonna try to get sigeween. Her animations and gameplay are so cute and a healer will almost always be useful

    • @chihaotran1568
      @chihaotran1568 3 місяці тому +23

      Yeah I think as a HEALER she is in decent spot
      I don't understand why people want her to be broken like Neuvi

    • @anddad
      @anddad  3 місяці тому +43

      Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video. Usually, characters get doomposted and I typically don't agree. People meme on Dehya all the time but even she has a unique mechanic and has her place in teams. There are very few characters in this game that are "useless", so I try my best so consider all of a character's strengths and weaknesses. I will admit, I could have been more negative about Sigewinne, but ultimately decided to lean in on her strengths a bit more because when everyone says a character is bad, it's usually exaggerated and I wanted to "counter the flow" a bit. Hopefully I can maintain this perspective going forward to future characters.
      Healing% is an option. I just think that it isn't too necessary as Sigewinne gets increased healing from A4, and if you're running Furina, she gives healing bonus from Fanfare. I personally think her A1 buff is extremely important, which is why I recommend full HP.

    • @ilari90
      @ilari90 3 місяці тому +4

      This is their job, and meta related stuff interests at least me more at this stage of the game. Wouldn't trash content creators doing what people expect of their content.

    • @silverYolo
      @silverYolo 3 місяці тому +10

      to clarify on one thing, there is no point to doing healing bonus over HP. she already heals a good bit and in her teams, she's with furina so she already gets bonus from that too.
      HP is needed to maximum the potential of her skill buffing. 60-65k hp is the cap, but it doesn't start counting towards it til 30k, so youll need a lot of HP

  • @Kitkorri
    @Kitkorri 3 місяці тому +7

    I just love how he decorated this video to fit her aesthetic and it all works so well

  • @lenwok3222
    @lenwok3222 3 місяці тому +151

    Although i have c3 Furina, i loathed using her in general overworld exploration because of the team health drain. Sigewinne solves this for me~

    • @SpaghettiPlays
      @SpaghettiPlays 3 місяці тому +32

      you can just use the other skill from furina yknow...to heal...while there's down time on the rest...

    • @x_k1ngst3r_x63
      @x_k1ngst3r_x63 3 місяці тому +49

      @@SpaghettiPlays yeah but her skill is single target and you have to swap to the character in order to even get heals from furina lol. With sigewinne, she at least does team wide heals with her skill. Her healing is more convenient and less clunky than furina’s. Let’s use our brains here lol

    • @JayDamaso78
      @JayDamaso78 3 місяці тому +13

      So...just like every healer? 😂

    • @kvnbrrn
      @kvnbrrn 3 місяці тому +21

      @@JayDamaso78no most healers with party wide healing heal with their burst. party wide healing with your skill is much more convenient in overworld and also makes sigewinne not burst reliant so you can fully commit to hp

    • @iFINNIX
      @iFINNIX 3 місяці тому +27

      Baizhu does exist

  • @faerieinwonderland
    @faerieinwonderland 3 місяці тому +61

    As much as I like using my Baizhu, Xianyun, and Kokomi, I'm still excited for Sigewinne for overworld because I like having my characters fully healed and she's extremely adorable! Can't wait to complete my Alice in Wonderland theme team 🐇

    • @anddad
      @anddad  3 місяці тому +6

      she is indeed precious! just don't give her a gun 💀

    • @kirinto
      @kirinto 3 місяці тому +2

      who's on that team?

    • @faerieinwonderland
      @faerieinwonderland 3 місяці тому +32

      @@kirinto Lumine/Klee 🎀 (as Alice), Lyney 🎩 (Mad Hatter), Furina 👑 (Queen), and Sigewinne 🐇(Rabbit) 💖

    • @YourAveragePerson123
      @YourAveragePerson123 3 місяці тому +8

      ​@@faerieinwonderlandomg thats adorable

    • @famimame
      @famimame 3 місяці тому +3

      Cute team

  • @chickenbobeats2
    @chickenbobeats2 3 місяці тому +68

    people are doomposting her so hard and shes probably my 2nd fav character 😣 nice to see an actual guide lmao

    • @ga45madrilla
      @ga45madrilla 3 місяці тому +11

      There are a few healers that barely apply element. She is very comfy unit that doesn't give you headache to try to get massive er.

    • @anddad
      @anddad  3 місяці тому +19

      don't want to be overly positive and says she's EXTREMELY strong when she has flaws, but also don't want to say she's USELESS when she has her place. glad I was able to help! you'll find plenty of teams for Sigewinne, especially with Furina, so don't worry!

    • @DefinitelyNotAFerret
      @DefinitelyNotAFerret 3 місяці тому +4

      Is your 1st fav dehya?

    • @youdontneedtoknow7548
      @youdontneedtoknow7548 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@anddad She's pretty useless however.

    • @chickenbobeats2
      @chickenbobeats2 3 місяці тому +10

      @@DefinitelyNotAFerret nah kirara
      comparing sigewinne to dehya is lowkey insane idk where youre coming from
      shes a healer shes not gonna do insane dmg

  • @ShevaAlpha2002
    @ShevaAlpha2002 3 місяці тому +9

    I'm still disappointed with Sigewinne's current kit but I'm still getting her because she's adorable!

  • @amandaburgess569
    @amandaburgess569 3 місяці тому +14

    I don’t own any five star hydros so she will be my first. I think she’s so adorable and will be a great addition to my account! Hoping I can make her work in a freeze team comp. The healing will definitely help me in abyss!

  • @erikkkk236
    @erikkkk236 3 місяці тому +20

    I'm personally pulling because I plan on going for Furina's weapon. If I get Sigewinne's weapon by chance, I'll try my best for her

    • @anddad
      @anddad  3 місяці тому +5

      Good luck!

    • @erikkkk236
      @erikkkk236 3 місяці тому +2

      @@anddad Thank youuuuuuuu ❤️🥰

    • @youdontneedtoknow7548
      @youdontneedtoknow7548 3 місяці тому

      That sounds like wasteful coping to me.

  • @leiurism
    @leiurism 3 місяці тому +24

    heres my perspective of sigewinne:
    i think shes an 'on-field support' i know that sounds weird but get this.
    shes on field casting her skill and burst as many times as possible while an off field unit that inflicts damage via skills (furina fischl yae) gets buffed
    what i think her best weapon will be is sacrifical bow to cast her skill two times
    team will be
    sigewinne + furina + fischl + vvshreder
    these are just my speculations, im still not entirely sure. her kit is weird she might seem bad at first, but youll never know. she might just be misjudged or too ahead of her time like kuki shinobu was back then.

    • @Blackoutdmc
      @Blackoutdmc 3 місяці тому +4

      I can almost see this working, but this just seems like a slightly worse version of a taser team using Kokomi. Except Kokomi is almost never the driver, Sucrose is. Because she can capitlize on double swirl and add a ton of damage that way, while consistently shredding both elements.
      Now you can still use Sigwinne over Kokomi in this team if one chooses to, but ultimately they serve the same function, Kokomi just applies hydro in a larger radius. Sigwinne has that neat elemental damage amp, but only for 10 hits shared with all units.

    • @leiurism
      @leiurism 3 місяці тому +5

      @@Blackoutdmc youre right, huh. lets just hope she IS ahead of her time and teams in the future will make her work competitively.
      maybe a pyro unit that has a periodic skill damage?
      but im still gonna pull for her nonetheless because wriothesley needs his daughter

    • @regalseagull
      @regalseagull 3 місяці тому +1

      Basically she's a driver ?

    • @DrDoggo-lt5tx
      @DrDoggo-lt5tx 3 місяці тому +2

      Well, you need 65k hp to maximize her skill buff. And the ball only exist 1in a time. So sacrificial is not a need to make or your field time for another chara will be messed. However I think Natlan will be elemental skill focused region, since new region will bring new meta. She seems not a meta character right now, but I believe she will get buffed by Natlan characters. Like how baizhu getting crazy after fontaine released.

    • @MugWitch
      @MugWitch 3 місяці тому

      @@leiurism Honestly my main reason I will try to pull her too is to unite her with Wriothesley and Neuvi 😂

  • @stevenreasontreason
    @stevenreasontreason 3 місяці тому +15

    aah i can't wait for her! i love her design, her personalilty, and i've been waiting for her; since she is late Fontaine, I will be skipping 4.8, so she's my last Fontaine Patch 5 star! 😊🎉

  • @otakuwhat_
    @otakuwhat_ 3 місяці тому +9

    Pulling for her because she reminds me of a Sanrio character:D

  • @milkshake9970
    @milkshake9970 3 місяці тому +15

    Omg is she a baizhu situation? Where people overlooked him because he didn’t do the “best” in different categories even tho he was meant to be well balanced not the best in one or two category but decent in a lot!!!!

    • @Uryvichk
      @Uryvichk 3 місяці тому +9

      People do sleep on healers but Baizhu was extremely good even on his release. Sigewinne's situation is sketchier and less clear.

    • @TheObesa89
      @TheObesa89 3 місяці тому

      I don't think so because her burst is irrelevant. We'll so far

    • @escapetherace1943
      @escapetherace1943 3 місяці тому +2

      No, because Baizhu is actually extremely strong and useful, especially in dendro teams and very much so in aggravate cyno, where-as sigwinne is... kinda bad.
      But hear me out. I think they nerfed Sigwinne and are running her with Furina on purpose to encourage people spending more money if they lose 50/50 or the weapon flop. If you recall Furina's weapon last time ran with Baizhu's as well... it's a low value weapon banner again on purpose because they know people want Furina who don't have her, and those who do have her want either her cons or that weapon.
      Personally I want the weapon more than the con so I'll be rolling.

    • @redparadox2765
      @redparadox2765 3 місяці тому

      no the problem with baizhu when he came out is not many people liked dendro

    • @MerkMD
      @MerkMD 3 місяці тому

      Baizhu give 3(+1) things to team; teamwide healing on E + Dendro reaction buff + Interruption Resistance (+dendro res shred). Sigewinne only give 2 things; teamwide healing + mild limited E buff.

  • @Beast_Marrow
    @Beast_Marrow 3 місяці тому +11

    Wriothesley (C3), Shenhe (C1), Furina (C0) and Sigewinne
    This is what I'm doing. I'll be getting one Sigewinne with my saved pulls then weighing wether to get her weapon, constellations for her or Furina or finally to save for more Wriothesley constellations.

    • @anddad
      @anddad  3 місяці тому +4

      solid freeze team 👍

    • @Periton
      @Periton 3 місяці тому

      @@anddadwould sigewinnes buff be worth it instead of running a VV anemo?

    • @anddad
      @anddad  3 місяці тому +1

      @@Periton may not be "worth" in damage but can be useful if you need the healing

  • @PorkyChop-Vincee
    @PorkyChop-Vincee 3 місяці тому +20

    I don't know what to make of sigewinne teams. Her only purpose is to be a Furina healer And buff the elemental skill. She's not a catalyst so she doesn't even get thrilling tales. Her application sucks and her burst is there ig. There's not much team that you need 2 hydro healer rn.
    IMO she might be good in the quick bloom/electro charge team specifically Fishcl and Furina ( yae could also work ). The elemental skill buff will get their use and Furina and Fischl can just use golden troupe and rarely take on field! Sucrose might be better than Kazuha tho since there's already so much elemental dmg bonus.
    In quick bloom, she's more of a weird situation since you don't need a healer in a quick bloom team without furina, and if you add furina that's too much hydro for quick bloom. So the team might look like Kazuha, Fischl/yae, Nahida, and Sigewinne. You can also do the doubel electro, yae, fischl, nahida and sigewinne. You rather have an anemo unit but if there's no one left then sigewinne works as a sudo-on fielder. But imo she's overall mid not bad like Qiqi but not great either, she just need more units.

    • @mikoman1732
      @mikoman1732 3 місяці тому +13

      sigewine doesnt even work in those comps tho, her bubble applies hydro ONCE 💀 thats 1 bloom core no?

    • @PorkyChop-Vincee
      @PorkyChop-Vincee 3 місяці тому

      @@mikoman1732 use reverse bloom, dendro first then hydro, it'll make two blooms. And im hoping her E has an aoe when they explode since you'll be using an anemo unit to group them together

    • @PorkyChop-Vincee
      @PorkyChop-Vincee 3 місяці тому

      @@mikoman1732 you can also use sac bow, higly copium since she doesn't need the er but it'll fit fine with the rotation

    • @reyesle6709
      @reyesle6709 3 місяці тому +4

      @@mikoman1732I think Siegwinne’s bubble has a 2-3 second ICD as stated in one of his previous videos, so her application is only slightly worse than Kokomi. While not totally reliant, Siegwinne’s best value teams are to be ran in a double hydro core as stated in the video, just like how Yae and Beidou are recommended to be ran with Fischl, Nahida is best to be ran with another dendro battery to focus on non-ER substats, e.t.c

    • @yewwizz
      @yewwizz 3 місяці тому +6

      ⁠@@reyesle6709Nahida is perfectly fine being run in a single dendro team. She has a 50 burst cost (second lowest burst cost) and only needs a couple rolls of ER, or even zero ER rolls if you have another character in the team using favonius. It’s Alhaitham who ppl recommend using with Nahida/another dendro.

  • @SuperSone
    @SuperSone 3 місяці тому +5

    She seems difficult to put into teams effectively, needing either Nahida or Furina to be able to really shine, not for the elemental skill thing, but to have a role that isn't filled by another character more effectively.
    She's competing with Baizhu, Bennett and especially Kokomi.
    Doesn't mean she isn't great tho, she can definitely be a game changer, depending on your roster of characters.

  • @namiburglarcat8605
    @namiburglarcat8605 3 місяці тому +9

    I’ll be trying her out on wet rock! Itto, Gorou, sigewinne and furina

    • @MugWitch
      @MugWitch 3 місяці тому

      😂 yes!!! Hope you get her early and good luck! I might just pull and do the same but with Navia and Chiori 💛🩵💙

  • @Wizard_Lizard_
    @Wizard_Lizard_ 3 місяці тому +4

    FAIR WARNING: No, she will NOT work as a Kokomi substitute. Kokomi is also known for off-field AoE Hydro Application as well as the ability to be a Hydro Driver. These are 2 things Sigewinne lacks - her Hydro application sucks!

  • @wiz_lime
    @wiz_lime 3 місяці тому +5

    I will user her in Team with
    (Yae Miko, Nahida, Fischl, Sigewinne)
    She can tank, buff all of their elemental skill, heal, and consume field time with her burst along with the field time with Yae Miko.
    Also it is a QuickBloom Team which is good in the current Meta.

    • @DefinitelyNotAFerret
      @DefinitelyNotAFerret 3 місяці тому +1

      Wouldn't that team just drain all 10 stacks of her elemental skill buff immediately-

    • @wiz_lime
      @wiz_lime 3 місяці тому +2

      @@DefinitelyNotAFerret I will also use song of the days past and it is ok to drain the 10 stacks to maximize the damage and also all of the characters have their damage focus on elemental skills because that is Sigewinne's purpose to increase the damage of elemental skill for me even her C1 is broken for that reason.

    • @youdontneedtoknow7548
      @youdontneedtoknow7548 3 місяці тому

      ​@@wiz_lime Or here's an idea you can just use Jean and get better results with VV.

    • @youdontneedtoknow7548
      @youdontneedtoknow7548 3 місяці тому

      ​@@wiz_lime Just face the fact she's pretty much useless.

    • @wiz_lime
      @wiz_lime 3 місяці тому

      @@youdontneedtoknow7548 Jean Can't easily swirl nahida's application I'm using that team right now but Jean is just a healer and quick sub dps in the team not a buffer

  • @sugarbunnyqueen3173
    @sugarbunnyqueen3173 3 місяці тому +4

    Being a kokomi main since her release im sad that i have no use for sigewinne bcs i rlly like her desing. I could use her in my navia chiori furina team but kokomi has the time to onfield meaning she gets to heal and do dmg and sigewinnes only advantage is her buffs which is not very strong sadly. I hate how shes so replaceable but new units are kinda meh nowadays which is good for powercreep but boring for the meta bcs it barely changes

    • @ssignment
      @ssignment 3 місяці тому

      As fellow Kokomi main, ig we're different then, I pull for aesthetic not for meta lol

  • @nivorann
    @nivorann 3 місяці тому +18

    a recurve bow? in this economy?! i'm screwed

    • @markh9303
      @markh9303 3 місяці тому +1

      there's a few you can get from talking to npc's if you haven't already.

    • @nivorann
      @nivorann 3 місяці тому

      @@markh9303 yeahh i only managed to find one available npc left :") thankful that i got one at all by this point

    • @markh9303
      @markh9303 3 місяці тому +1

      @@nivorannchest only weapons can be so cursed 😔, at least its refinements aren't essential. I'm hoping that we eventually get a 4star hp bow with a synergistic passive and that it actually has low base attack high mainstat unlike the last two hp 4star weapons we've gotten.

    • @nivorann
      @nivorann 3 місяці тому

      @@markh9303 rightt i was shocked upon discovering that there was such a lack of HP bows... i even 100%'d all of mondstadt and i only got the recurve bow Once 💀

    • @markh9303
      @markh9303 3 місяці тому

      @@nivorann yeah i was same. when yelan first released i used recurve on her for buget build, anyway I only had one recurve bow also despite completing mond too. I must have fed them all at some point. mondstadt also has way less chests than every other nation and we play it first before we have any game knowledge about limited 3 star weapons so it'svery likely to not have many i feel. One day when a mond expansion finally comes out we'll get more.

  • @matthewpranataa
    @matthewpranataa 3 місяці тому +1

    her pill-throwing is too cute not to use and i'll definitely be having a lot of fun with her on my team! i don't struggle with abyss/most difficult content either so it's nice to have more silly characters for daily use

  • @YourAveragePerson123
    @YourAveragePerson123 3 місяці тому +4

    I have a weird teamcomp in mind lol:
    Klee
    Furina
    Sigewinne
    Bennet or kazuha

    • @itblobboy
      @itblobboy 3 місяці тому

      That's a solid team!

  • @kokomi5540
    @kokomi5540 3 місяці тому +1

    Do i need sigewinne? no. Do i need any more hydro 5 stars? no. Does my arlecchino need any healers? no. Am i using my guaranteed 5 star wish for sigewinne? yes!!!

  • @Sui_turnip
    @Sui_turnip 3 місяці тому +3

    I'm planning to put her in a Navia Chiori Furina comp

  • @mikoman1732
    @mikoman1732 3 місяці тому +8

    her C1 should just be how her kit works, she seems so useless at c0

    • @reyesle6709
      @reyesle6709 3 місяці тому +6

      Siegwinne’s C1 value is pretty much on par with Wriothesley’s C1. Both of them are perfectly usable at C0, but so much is improved with their kits with this constellation. It’s not Faruzan levels of egregious, but it does feel kinda bad that both of these characters _somewhat_ rely on their C1 to feel complete

    • @mikoman1732
      @mikoman1732 3 місяці тому +1

      @@reyesle6709 eh wrio is alotttt better at c0 than sigewinne is.. his c1 is rly rly good but not NEEDED if u know how to use him right, its a QOL change if anything. sigewinne on the other hand can only make 3 bloom cores with her skill 💀 like cmon now at the very least be able to bubble more than 2 SMALL units, idk they made her revolve around her skill and made it so lackluster i thought she was a 4star

  • @idk_arianaaa
    @idk_arianaaa 3 місяці тому +2

    should i collect the bond of life droplets right away or wait? and if i wait, how long?

  • @Blackoutdmc
    @Blackoutdmc 3 місяці тому +2

    She's really cute. But I probably wont be pulling her, any team that I would want to use her in, I think Kokomi just works better.

  • @Froggycolouring
    @Froggycolouring 3 місяці тому

    What’s confusing to me is it only buffing off field skill dmg, it makes her not viable for a lot of times she could’ve had

  • @Azrael.
    @Azrael. 3 місяці тому +1

    Honestly for the mono hydro team I do think that that will be her bis team but if ur running kazuha on the team i don’t see yelan working that well on it, I would just run Mona instead for more dmg buffs bc yelan needs someone to na for her to work which means ur gonna have to either na with kazuha or sigewinne or her to get the bonus, kazuha only rlly builds em and er so ur wasting yelans dmg buff and with sigewinne ur just looping around to main dps sigewinne again and if Furina is on feild then she’s losing all the skill buffs whitch just again loops around to yelan being on field or using sigewinnes burst, like u said with yelan being on field she’s boosting her own damage but i still think that Mona’s burst will be more valuable bc it’s all at once dmg witch means u can actually use sigewinne as a sub dps, also yelan prefers to have more than 1 element anyway. Personally for mono hydro I will be getting c2 sigewinne so I can use my Mona as on field and still have yelan and Furina idk tho cuz I haven’t theory crafted any of this stuff this is just what I feel like will work better lol

  • @indartawira
    @indartawira 3 місяці тому +1

    We don't even have to struggle for DPS Sigewinne since all HP main stat artifacts have atk%, cr, and cdmg sub stats😂😂😂

  • @refooorrm
    @refooorrm 3 місяці тому +2

    We literally have only 2 BoL characters (including one that's not released yet),and she's meant to be played with BoL characters? Like no sht she's going to be "good" with your raiden or ayato?like i do remember in early fontaine leaks that they said "Arlecchino will have natlan mechanics and that they will be a stepping stone for Natlan" and guess what they made a healer that kinda "fits" in this BoL niche since its a bit hard to play around it,and yes you guessed it right more characters that will be utilizing this gimmick will be around,(just like how Dehya mitigates DMG and self heals if she drops bellow a certain amount of HP,she was meant to be played in fontaine and she's getting played in fontaine think of Lyney teams,some Neuvillette teams(they could've made it much better but it's still playable)),so i'm either witnessing another Kazuha/Kokomi situation where she'll get a really really good in Natlan and will get a rerun every 10 patches so people will regret not pulling for her or she'll be totally unusable (most likely that's not the case)and might be used in some bloom/hyperbloom teams.

  • @anyasilverash6053
    @anyasilverash6053 3 місяці тому +1

    I think sigewinne pairs good with nahida and raiden because of their off field skills

  • @aljawharahaldohan7945
    @aljawharahaldohan7945 3 місяці тому

    I WILL MAKE HER THE STRONGEST FROM ALL PEOPLE!!!❤❤❤

  • @doug3454
    @doug3454 3 місяці тому +1

    I really want to build her for damage as well because it's just fun(ny). Thinking to pair her with Raiden (for energy, burst buff and having Raiden burst mode on-field while Sigewinne is on CD), Furina for obvious reasons and probably Nahida (welp, it's turning into an archon team 😅).

    • @alexmiller4755
      @alexmiller4755 3 місяці тому +1

      Kazuha for extra hydro damage and shred instead of Nahida and your Sighy will do 40k per tick

  • @jellybingus.
    @jellybingus. 3 місяці тому

    I feel like a lot of people completely forget about the maiden set? If you have decent dps, you don't need the damage from the clam set. Wouldn't it be more usefull to get even more healing bonus?

    • @anddad
      @anddad  3 місяці тому +1

      I don't think her healing will be an issue considering she has healing bonus in her kit. A healer in a team should bring more than just healing, so maximizing Sigewinne's ability to add damage to the team with sets like clam is better IMO

  • @macyyyyyyyyyyy
    @macyyyyyyyyyyy 3 місяці тому +1

    will ocean hued clam or song of days past be best for me? ill run yae, nahida and furina with her and i wanna prefarm the set for her but im not sure which, do i just wait and see?

    • @anddad
      @anddad  3 місяці тому

      they should be about the same, can just get whichever is more worth your resin. for instance, clam can be strongboxed

    • @macyyyyyyyyyyy
      @macyyyyyyyyyyy 3 місяці тому

      @@anddad thanks, i decided to farm for song of days past since that domain has navias best set too (who im pulling for next) so i might aswell do that :)

    • @anddad
      @anddad  3 місяці тому

      @@macyyyyyyyyyyy good choice!

  • @Akira-Akari
    @Akira-Akari 3 місяці тому

    I’m gonna do something that’s probably pretty stupid. Put Sigewinne on a team with Navia, Chiori, and Furina. I don’t know how it’s gonna work, but i already have a set for her!
    Which means I take off all my healer Kuki artifacts(ocean hued clam) and give them to Sigewinne and then I’ll just build Kuki as em and use her as a buff in a hyber bloom team with Nahida(Probably gonna do Nahida, Xingqui, Kuki and then either Bennet or Kazuha). Or I can build Kuki as a dps and use her with Kazuha and Nahida since my Kazu already has a little less than 1k em.

    • @anddad
      @anddad  3 місяці тому

      sounds solid, EM Kuki is very strong in dendro. Last slot can be another electro or another dendro DPS (in Nahida - Xingqiu - Kuki)

    • @Akira-Akari
      @Akira-Akari 3 місяці тому

      @@anddad got it, thanks for the advice!

  • @Divoreshia
    @Divoreshia 3 місяці тому

    Sigewinne truly an unit of all time

  • @guest_zzroman2076
    @guest_zzroman2076 3 місяці тому +9

    Call it cope or whatever but I feel like everyone ignoring over half her kit will inevitably end in her looking underwhelming, given the fact that her weapon, constellations and passives all suggest her being able to contribute significant damage to the team and the incentive to have skill based sub-dps and needing long field time means that she's likely mean to be an on fielder or a quick swap character for dps with shorter field times like Cyno, even the little hearts she shoots when aiming her charge attack might be the reason her hydro application seems a bit lesser than most, since she's meant to compensate with charge attacks which is something no other hydro bow user has to do.
    Hoyoverse needs to keep their characters interesting if they want people to keep pulling cause nobody is going to pull on a character you just swap to to use skill and switch immediately just like the one they already have, and they clearly haven't shown an interest in powercreeping older characters to incentivice pulls, so all they can do is try to come up with new ways to interact with the character archetypes the community tries to box characters in, and if it doesn't work at first they'll add more content later to support them until they work. An on field/quickswap dps healer might not make much sense now, but if it doesn't they'll find a way to make it work in Natlan.

    • @anddad
      @anddad  3 місяці тому +6

      Hoyo was definitely cooking, but the numbers don't seem to justify it being worth for her dealing damage. Maybe in the future there will be some new mechanic where it's necessary.

    • @greenvega
      @greenvega 3 місяці тому +1

      Even me, who have c6 yae, will not get her, cuz she look like standard char, it's simple not worth to replace someone in team for sgw, character was interesting, but kit is simply garbage at this point

  • @redparadox2765
    @redparadox2765 3 місяці тому

    if i didnt have so many healers already i probly would pull for her. if i did pull her she would just be leveled to 90 then benched. if i didnt have kokomi i would defo go for her.

  • @Forakus
    @Forakus 3 місяці тому +2

    Sigewinne is so much worse than Kokomi that she's completely dead on arrival... I don't know why Hoyo didn't cook a little longer to give her a good kit. They clearly know how to make interesting, versatile healers but this isn't it.

  • @Redoreca
    @Redoreca 3 місяці тому +1

    what are peoples thoughts on sigewinne in a hyper bloom team with raiden, furina, and nahida vs baizhu on the same team?

    • @anddad
      @anddad  3 місяці тому +1

      nahida > baizhu, need more dendro app for more cores

    • @Redoreca
      @Redoreca 3 місяці тому

      @@anddad lol my bad should put a comma in there. It is seigewinne vs baizhu, in a hyper bloom team.

    • @anddad
      @anddad  3 місяці тому +1

      @@Redoreca got it, probably sigewinne cause I don't see Baizhu doing anything when Nahida is already on the team

    • @jackrabbit1704
      @jackrabbit1704 3 місяці тому +1

      Baizhu doesn’t need c2 to shield teammates, can run prototype amber/thrilling tales, gives EM buff resonance, buffs dendro reactions % wise. Hard to say, depends on the amount of dmg she can do or buff with her E. I do like the idea though, baizhu can get very stale.

  • @unitofmeasurementlover
    @unitofmeasurementlover 3 місяці тому +1

    can neuvilette pick up her orbs for his CA?

    • @doug3454
      @doug3454 3 місяці тому +3

      yes, though it's only 2, so he'll have to charge for a bit (unless he has his own out as well). It's kinda cringe they couldn't just give her 3 and rebalance her around having 3 if needed.

  • @TheCuteKsenia
    @TheCuteKsenia 3 місяці тому

    everyone : she's useless
    me : Neuvy's daughter. must have with my man

  • @hopeworld9515
    @hopeworld9515 3 місяці тому

    i wanna pull her simply for cuteness points but her kit seems a bit too underwhelming for a 5* 😭 so im gonna prioritize Furina first. I'm not one to pull for meta, i pull purely for looks/personality but even then her kit feels so weak that im having doubts. It would've been much nicer if she gave 5-10 stacks of buff to EACH party member. That alone would've made her much more valuable. I'm sad that hoyo is doing this to such a cute character with one of the prettiest designs/aesthetic. I'm already a bit low on primos to pull for TWO characters 😭f2p struggle fr

  • @chaosemmi_2254
    @chaosemmi_2254 3 місяці тому

    thank you for these explanations and well everthing around :) ill be pulling for her one or another way but do u think she can work well in a Navia team?
    My current one is Navia, Albedo(or ganyu for flying/singel targets), Barbara (Sigewinne possibly?) and bennet :)
    do u believe a she will be fine there? 😅

    • @anddad
      @anddad  3 місяці тому +1

      no problem! if you really need Sigewinne's heals you can, but ideally Bennett on your team is already your healer, so Sigewinne is not needed. You can go Navia - Albedo - Bennett then last slot put someone like Fischl or Xiangling to put in more damage

  • @konan2511
    @konan2511 3 місяці тому

    i think navia and chiori should have been mentioned, sigewinne fits perfectly in the navia furina chiori team. a lot better than kokomi, while shes ok there her healing isn't the best for fanfare.

  • @RIZZFTW
    @RIZZFTW 3 місяці тому

    since i dont have baizhu, should i get her so i can have an easier time using furina teams also? currently using Jean to heal after furina Q but even with sacrificial sword and 213 ER she still misses the heals in rotations

    • @anddad
      @anddad  3 місяці тому

      Jean should be good enough, my Jean heals fine whenever I use her.

  • @EinSilverRose
    @EinSilverRose 3 місяці тому +3

    I've been wondering just how strong she can be at C6 with a R1 signature bow. I'd like to C6 her if her damage is solid.

    • @HoangQuan-h5x
      @HoangQuan-h5x 3 місяці тому +1

      With C6R1, she will have like 5%+28%+20% crit rate = 53% crit rate already, and 110% crit dmg from C6 as well. Her damage will be insane :)

  • @null7042
    @null7042 3 місяці тому +1

    im really curious on how her bow would work on hp scaling bow characters like yelan 😭

    • @anddad
      @anddad  3 місяці тому +1

      unfortunately the way to get the stacks on the bow is very sigewinne specific, so it won't be the best on Yelan

    • @escapetherace1943
      @escapetherace1943 3 місяці тому

      Yelan does so much damage I can't see 66% HP competing against her 44%CV weapon

  • @Grin-Malkin1374
    @Grin-Malkin1374 3 місяці тому +1

    For dps, is HoD/Golden troupe good or should i go for something else

    • @anddad
      @anddad  3 місяці тому +1

      marechausse with Furina could be an option

    • @alexmiller4755
      @alexmiller4755 3 місяці тому +1

      Her E doesn't do much damage if any. Her Q does much much more so I'd say Emblem

  • @-chiraimu
    @-chiraimu 3 місяці тому

    Im running Sigewinne in a vape team with Furina, Bennett, & Xiangling and giving her aqua simulacra so she can be a dps

    • @-chiraimu
      @-chiraimu 3 місяці тому

      Thats until i build fischl that is to replace Bennett for a better team

    • @anddad
      @anddad  3 місяці тому

      @@-chiraimu sounds good, maybe keeping Bennett could be better to snapshot Xiangling and help with her energy requirements, but Fischl can work as well

  • @Jamman4life
    @Jamman4life 3 місяці тому

    It seems like you're telling me her C2 kind of turns her into a hydro sheilder if I understand correctly. 🤔

    • @anddad
      @anddad  3 місяці тому

      should've emphasized this in the video, but I believe the shield is JUST for Sigewinne

    • @Jamman4life
      @Jamman4life 3 місяці тому +1

      @@anddad Yeah sadly, I heard about that from Zjeff 😭

  • @milkshake9970
    @milkshake9970 3 місяці тому

    Can the orbs also give bond of life to others? Because if it can then it could activate the new bond of life set right😅

    • @anddad
      @anddad  3 місяці тому +1

      unfortunately it doesnt work like that, a bond of life support like that will have to wait another day

  • @karasto7670
    @karasto7670 3 місяці тому

    Hey and thank you for the Video :)
    So if she buffs off field E attacks shouldn’t be Raiden and Yae-Miko get buffed too ? That would be actually nice with Nahida too 🥰🥳

    • @anddad
      @anddad  3 місяці тому +1

      no problem! Yes she would buff Yae and Raiden, but due to her buff stacks being shared among the party, you really only need one character with off field e attacks to take full advantage of her buff

  • @user-zq5dh6jr8n
    @user-zq5dh6jr8n 3 місяці тому

    sigewinne c0 : 🥰
    just her c6 : 💉 X 110 Crt DMG💀

  • @ravenwong651
    @ravenwong651 3 місяці тому

    Massive healer with massive personalities

  • @starfox5647
    @starfox5647 3 місяці тому +1

    Would have been an insta-pull if she was a "real" Melusine. I'll stick with Kokomi,.

  • @DojoDyo
    @DojoDyo 3 місяці тому

    Sig Weapon or Constellation 1 though ?

    • @anddad
      @anddad  3 місяці тому

      c1 if you already have some damage-related bow (assuming you're going for damage)

  • @primozpv
    @primozpv 3 місяці тому +2

    Melusine music 😮🎉

  • @Aragourn6132
    @Aragourn6132 3 місяці тому

    I just wanna try Sigewinne nahida kirara and Kokomi 😁

    • @escapetherace1943
      @escapetherace1943 3 місяці тому

      only nahida does damage out of those four with kokomi doing mid dmg if you on field her burst, which you wouldn't. Kirara is also very bad damage wise... but I've used kirara to 36 star the abyss as a flex shielder multiple times. Kirara might be useless nearly, but her dendro procs on those abyss lectors actually helped me crush their shields faster. Other than Zhongli I typically use Layla and if I can Kirara

  • @wooferss
    @wooferss 3 місяці тому

    Hii !! Im getting really stresssed to go for ocean hued or the new set like the one that’s in the same one as the navia artifact domain.. I have a c6 Furina and am wondering to go for which artifacs, can you please tell me ?

    • @qimori8094
      @qimori8094 3 місяці тому

      I personally will give her clam set, I find the extra damage to be more substantial with clam than sodp

    • @anddad
      @anddad  3 місяці тому

      if Sigewinne is there for the purpose of buffing your C6 Furina, Song of Days Past will give your Furina higher numbers cause it buffs. Keep in mind that Clam can be strongboxed, so it might be more resin efficient if you don't need navia's set

    • @wooferss
      @wooferss 3 місяці тому

      @@anddad I’m pulling for Sigewinne because I need Furina to get her fanfare stacks quicker and I love Sigewinne herself, I have a full set ocean hued and sodp, both have similar sub stats & im pulling for sigewinnes c1 & signiature . Which set can I get more healing from ?

    • @faerieinwonderland
      @faerieinwonderland 3 місяці тому

      @@wooferss They both have the same amount of healing. Personally I like the Song of Days Past more because for OceanClam, you need to be close to the enemies so that the bubble pop hits the enemies, but Songs buffs the elemental dmg so anyone on field is doing the dmg, so if Furina is on field, her friends will just go after the enemies for you and not you running close to the enemies. I also find the Ocean hue clam pop effect to be annoying

    • @anddad
      @anddad  3 місяці тому

      @@wooferss in terms of healing both heal about the same, the difference is only in the 4pc (and any slight substats you have that are different)

  • @xiao_._.
    @xiao_._. 3 місяці тому

    Does arlecchino go well with sigewinne?

    • @anddad
      @anddad  3 місяці тому

      no, I wouldn't recommend this pairing

  • @sungjoo1360
    @sungjoo1360 3 місяці тому

    She may be bad to some but Wonderhoy!

  • @demijames2865
    @demijames2865 3 місяці тому

    I really can’t decide between Furina or Sigwinne! 😢

    • @anddad
      @anddad  3 місяці тому +6

      the meta choice will be Furina (especially if you don't have her) but don't feel pressured to pull for meta! if you like sigewinne more, feel free to skip furina. or just get lucky and get both! i believe in you 🙏

    • @qimori8094
      @qimori8094 3 місяці тому +1

      I'm there too 😭 I've been waiting for sigewinne forever but furina would be great for my xiao team... I'll choose furina but hopefully sige reruns soon!

    • @youdontneedtoknow7548
      @youdontneedtoknow7548 3 місяці тому +1

      If you even consider that a decision you're already doomed.

  • @nashineworks8318
    @nashineworks8318 3 місяці тому

    She's such a.... 4star too me....

  • @xiao_._.
    @xiao_._. 3 місяці тому

    should ı buy Sigewinne's signature weapon or the constellation?

    • @anddad
      @anddad  3 місяці тому

      imo constellation

  • @geboaebo
    @geboaebo 3 місяці тому

    she is quite small actually

  • @chuanqi7382
    @chuanqi7382 3 місяці тому +1

    feel like Sigewinne is designed with a 4 star kit and 5 star design and HoYo didn't decide until the end

    • @anddad
      @anddad  3 місяці тому

      yea in some ways I do agree, they definitely could've done more with Sigewinne

  • @TheGodJames
    @TheGodJames 3 місяці тому

    Trying to make her an dps with C6 (I’m praying) I’m pulling for her weapon due to her c6 giving her more dmg. I’m just debating on if i should go for HP fully or go with Hydro dmg and crit dmg (she gets free crit rate from her weapon as she heals which is all times)

    • @anddad
      @anddad  3 місяці тому

      Hydro/crit should be the way to go. Good luck on your pulls!

  • @marupurusaivamsi4802
    @marupurusaivamsi4802 3 місяці тому

    C1 furina or her?

    • @anddad
      @anddad  3 місяці тому

      for pure meta reasons probably C1 Furina, but if you like/value using new characters go for the new character

    • @marupurusaivamsi4802
      @marupurusaivamsi4802 3 місяці тому

      @@anddad I would have summon her , if her buff fir skill was as good as xianyun.

  • @naokisan3939
    @naokisan3939 3 місяці тому

    at the end she is pretty useless but extremly cute. I dont know what to do

  • @ToiletBread1651
    @ToiletBread1651 3 місяці тому

    Sigewinne looks like a character you get when you lose your 50/50.

  • @butter5144
    @butter5144 3 місяці тому

    😮

  • @munchaking1896
    @munchaking1896 3 місяці тому

    I need a healer for my second team in spiral abys, Jean is freakin' useless.

    • @escapetherace1943
      @escapetherace1943 3 місяці тому +1

      try charlotte, she's underrated. her burst nearly full heals your team instantly even if you don't put healing stats on her so she maxes out furina's fanfare instantly. She does basically no damage herself though, even at level 90 and talents and a full crit set, so just aim for a healing circlet+ER sands/weapon OR because her healing also scales off of attack, crit and attack + fav so you make more particles. She's pretty good, but ONLY if your other characters are real heavyweights.

  • @DojoDyo
    @DojoDyo 3 місяці тому

    im glad i didnt pull for clorinde lol

  • @mephykuns3131
    @mephykuns3131 3 місяці тому

    thats my wife

  • @kiraramax2066
    @kiraramax2066 3 місяці тому +1

    the Meta in Genshin is the most uninteresting thing in this game you can easily get through this using non meta teams, and if all you play is meta then you CLEARLY don't know how play or what a gacha game is.

  • @Wutlatte.
    @Wutlatte. 3 місяці тому

    That's alot of words for "skip".

    • @escapetherace1943
      @escapetherace1943 3 місяці тому +1

      pair trash with furina and when people lose the weapon banner to sigwinne's garbage 5 star weapon, people will want to swipe before furina goes away for a long, long time.....
      it's a market strategy. But i'd prefer it if they just made Sig somewhat more viable instead of dragging her through the mud like they are doing

  • @vylet8270
    @vylet8270 3 місяці тому +2

    I feel like i would pull for her if they hadn't made her look human. Melusine are super cute already and her design was a huge let down.

    • @pmp1195
      @pmp1195 3 місяці тому

      Rightt that wudve been so cool n cutee

  • @fancymustache3793
    @fancymustache3793 3 місяці тому

    shes not bad but shes super mid and hardly provides anything unique other healers dont already provide. The only unique thing she has going for her is the shenhe/yunjin stack thing for skill damage which obviously....aint gonna last long with THAT amount of stacks in a team

  • @Msaber2012
    @Msaber2012 3 місяці тому +3

    TLDW: Sigewinne sucks :(

    • @skyden4637
      @skyden4637 3 місяці тому +14

      They said Sigewinne is competitive with Kokomi and Kokomi, while not super meta important, doesn’t suck.

    • @youdontneedtoknow7548
      @youdontneedtoknow7548 3 місяці тому

      ​@@skyden4637 She sucks, always has always will I don't care how much coping people do. So they both suck.

  • @marinalima8562
    @marinalima8562 3 місяці тому +2

    Haha, just no. Skip.

  • @marupurusaivamsi4802
    @marupurusaivamsi4802 3 місяці тому

    Most boring ass kit.

  • @Madara_Uchiha__
    @Madara_Uchiha__ 3 місяці тому +1

    Worst 5* limited ever

    • @fluffietanuki
      @fluffietanuki 3 місяці тому +3

      dehya? 🤨

    • @doug3454
      @doug3454 3 місяці тому +3

      @@fluffietanuki Dehya is standard. Aloy though... 😂

    • @kale1287
      @kale1287 3 місяці тому

      Goes to Trashbedo

    • @youdontneedtoknow7548
      @youdontneedtoknow7548 3 місяці тому

      ​@@doug3454Started as limited however.

    • @youdontneedtoknow7548
      @youdontneedtoknow7548 3 місяці тому

      3 strong choices so far I will say however and I might as well toss my head into the ring... There's Klee.

  • @Kangoshi_ru
    @Kangoshi_ru 3 місяці тому

    Easiest skip of all times.

  • @sweetwaifu4655
    @sweetwaifu4655 3 місяці тому +2

    she looks and plays like 4 star character, why she is 5 stars is unclear