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Can we all agree that Alan Cummings Nightcrawler is one of the most underrated, yet perfectly casted and portrayal of the character? Should've gotten more of his version throughout the series.
Also, you'll be surprised to learn that we'll be getting more of Aaron Stanford's Pyro in Deadpool & Wolverine
Alan Cumming was great as Nightcrawler, but sadly he elected not to return as he hated the make-up process, and how long it took to get into character. The tie-in video game to the third X-Men movie explained his absence by saying he disliked the violent nature of the team's lifestyle and adventures and chose to leave the team.
So underused. And I have no idea why.
In the comic it's always been eluded that Nightcrawler (the blue guy with the tail) is related to Mystique. Notice simular skin color?
And also in the comics, the secret facility that Logan was taken to for the adamantium grafting was a Canadian secret lab. He then was in a Canadian superhero team called Alpha Flight.
Disagree. He looked cool and his powers were depicted excellently, but his characterization is way off. In the comics, Nightcrawler is a light-hearted, swashbuckling, jovial fellow. Cummings depicted him as morose and introspective. Not like the source material at all. Watch X-Men 97 for an accurate depiction of him.
It is too bad we would never see his Nightcrawler return. No offense to Kodi Smit McPhee, but Alan Cumming does Kurt Wagner more justice. Not just with the makeup, which I understand, not easy to wear constantly; similar to Jennifer Lawrence in the prequels. But also, I like with how Alan portrayed the misunderstood demon who puts his faith in God when others have forsaken and shunned him. By accepting and forgiving their flaws, he, too, can accept and forgive any flaws he sees in himself.
Fun fact: the woman at the bar Mystique used as a disguise was actually Mystique's own actress (Rebecca Romijn) without the blue make-up and prosthetics. It wasn't just the dress! It was herself all along!
And she was gorgeous!
@spiritconsumer Well, she was a model, and it makes sense why they have her as Mystique.
Rebecca will always be my Mystique.
Rebecca was really hot. Not the most well known, but a prime example of 90's beauty. Before lip fillers and butt implants.
@@aix42 Agreed. 🤔Jennifer Who?
I mean, in fairness to Logan, he does come into the room to find soldiers *GUNNING DOWN CHILDREN* , so I don't really have a problem with his reaction. He's a protector.
You are absolutely right-Wolverine’s actions in this sequence are beyond reproach.
100% L0gan tried t0 be civil by merely restraining the s0ldier like a c0mm0n burglar ("Y0u picked the wr0ng h0use, bub.") and then the s0ldier fired his submachine gun 0n full AUT0 at a teenage b0y and came after L0gan with a knife. S0.....time t0 die, bub, y0u DID pick with wr0ng h0use.
Logan X or Logan Roy?
Well, he was designated as the babysitter by Charles so he just took his job very seriously.
I'd sleep better at night knowing Logan was my protector.
Kudos to Cassie on figuring out that Mystique put metal in the guard. She's getting so good at this
In what? Logic?
@@Rikitikisiki meooow! 🐈
@@Rikitikisiki and not being a bitch (take notes)
@@Rikitikisiki In a way, yeah, but it's more than that. She's not a comic book person who knows this stuff, but she's getting good at keeping track of the finer points of complex stories like this, such as who has what power and what that makes them capable of
"Who has a crush on Halle Berry, because I do!" 😂 Made me laugh out loud Cassie
I thought they meant in the movie, lol.. cuz it would've been interesting seeing that Nightcrawler would show her affection later on.
@@callmeshaggy5166 Yes that's what she meant I'm sure, and it was nice to see a connection develop between Storm and Nightcrawler
That was the right question for everything.
@@ribbitrebecca So true,they connected on a cerebral level,which I liked.
I have always had a crush on Halle Berry !
On this episode of PiB two Canadian women discover the species of animal called the "Wolverine", whose primary habitat is the *checks notes* country of Canada
Not only that, it's from the same provence that they and I are from
Yep - my thoughts too!!
Admit it, Wolverine sounds like an Australian animal! Lol
Also, once from my state of Michigan, hence the U of M Wolverines, tho sadly we have no actual wolverines anymore.
City girls
Carly got it in the first 10 minutes
"He's blue, and she's blue"
Mystique and Nightcrawler are mother and son in the comics.
Actually, they are father and son.
@@stevenmcmullan409 Actually not..The father is Azazel(yet to be seen)
@@PanzerShrek94Azazel was in xmen first class and mentioned again in xmen days of futures past
Professor X can’t stop time. He actually just put everyone’s brain on “pause” lmao
Personally, I consider X-Men 2 as the best X-Men movie.
Does anybody remember seeing it in theaters?
Yup in High School. Good times. Pretty much universally loved at the time.
i was there
Saw it twice in theaters 🎥 😊
Yes sir. Opening scene was amazing
Yup.
Over 20 years of watching this series and anytime I hear those claws pop and Wolverine roar I still smile. Hugh owns this role. Him and Patrick were the heart of these movies and have such amazing chemistry together. You can especially see in Logan how much they trust each other.
It's just too bad that he's far too pretty and a foot too tall to play the extremely hairy 5'3" Logan.
@@AaronLitz I wouldn’t mind a shorter wolverine for the next version but for me Hugh nailed the character. The writing may have let him down at times but Hugh was born for the role. I think Tom hardy would’ve been a fantastic successor
Wheels and Claws, together again...
What's funny is Wolverine is Canadian. In the comics he's about 5' 4" tall. His comic appearance is written to be based on the writers description of a wolverine being a small, hairy, ferocious animal with claws.
Wolverine's first appearance was not even as a mutant at all, just a Canadian super agent / super hero send to keep a rampaging Hulk in check.
@@Tuning3434Nah, he was a mutant. Len Wein, the writer who created him, had heard that X-Men was going to be getting rebooted soon, with an international cast, so he made Wolverine a mutant so he could join if they liked the character. Then he actually got tapped to write Giant-Size X-Men, so he made sure to include him on the team!
Plus, Library and Archives Canada has the record of enlistment in WWI of James 'Logan' Howlett. 😁
Logan is based upon an actor in a film about an ice hockey team: 'Slap Shot'.
The writer and artist back then were both Canadians, one of British descent, so this was both funny and enormously successful.
5'3"
In fairness, you're not the only ones to think wolverines are wolves- before X-Men, Hugh Jackman spent a lot of time studying wolf movements to inform his character, only to discover they're big weasel-bear things!
That moment where it looks like Jean is starting to burn when holding back the water made me as a (at the time) xmen fanboy loose my shit 😂
For those who knew went wild in the theater
We nerds all lost our poop
@@MarktheAirsoftPrimate🤣 yes we did lose it
Jean's codename:
Phoenix
That moment in the theater everyone cheered so loudly. That and the lake scene at the end with the "bird" under the water.
Not only are wolverines rare in the wild, they're solitary and they're good at it. Unless they feel like fighting, in which case they fight every fight like it's their last fight. A wolverine got into a polar bear enclosure at a zoo, and killed the polar bear. That's a 60lb animal defeating a 1,000lb animal.
“Can’t Bobby just freeze it all?” I’ve seen this movie 100 times and never thought of that once
But maybe not stop the momentum?
“Can’t Bobby just freeze it all?”
I know little about the X-Men lore but what I do remember I think Iceman and Storm both have the ability to affect planetary scale changes. So at full power probably but they generally nerf the heck out of people in movies or for plot armor.
@@Desmond9100he probably could’ve created an ice dam at least.
Well I heard a line from Nightcrawler who at the time said he couldn't use his powers because Jean blocked them. Presumably that's why none of them could do anything at that point.
@@rigrmortis3393 weeell, we saw Storm/Ororo easily conjure up multiple tornados and control them while flying a plane, and using them to defend against missiles.
If she has that much fine control over storms, lightning, rain, etc, a minor flood like that dam breaking should have been easy for her.
In the comics she WOULD have done it while casually chilling out on a sofa. Unfortunately for plot reasons they massively tuned her down. She is one of three omega level mental power characters in the cartoon that have shown up in the movies.
I won't spoiler who the others are.
Logan's healing factor is at an omega level as well, but that's about it for him as it is purely physical and passive, so he doesn't classify as a true omega level.
They're Canadian and don't know what a Wolverine is, it's a giant weasel. Really enjoying their X-Men journey.
You'll really enjoy "X-Men: First Class" which will satisfy so many of your questions
For sure. Hope they do it eventually!
My personal favorite introduction of Logan.
This! I hope they watch it soon.
After Logan. First class is more like reboot and I really want to see their reaction to Logan
Hey, no spoilers. There's a couple of movies before that. Let's all enjoy their surprise. Yeah?
Logan's power-set makes him frighteningly efficient at violence. And his psychology makes him *terrifyingly* capable of it. And it's a major part of his character arc that he grows from an unstable berserker to a reluctant warrior to someone who makes the *choice* to be a hero.
The best there is at what he does, but what he does best isn't very nice.
It also makes him a great lighting rod.
@@voltinator Is adamantium actually conductive, that's the question.
He's only called Wolverine because Badger doesn't sound nearly as cool. LOL Check out the fan fiction short film WOLVERINE vs PREDATOR - Super Power Beat Down (Episode 9), it's actually pretty good.
So....Anti-Hero?
The moment Jean says goodbye to Cyclops gets me everytime. James Marsden absolutely nails his heartbreak, not seeing his eyes if anything makes it worse.
More heartfelt than 90% of modern MCU, a wonderful moment that makes me cry each time. All three of Patrick Stewart, James Marsden and Hugh Jackman's performances are so good
What's really hilarious about Cassie asking if a wolverine is a real thing and Carly saying it's "like a wolf" is that Hugh Jackman thought the same thing! During the press tour for the first X-Men, Hugh talked a lot about how he studied wolves and tried to mimic their movements, and a story later went around that he actually studied wolves because he (allegedly) thought that "wolverine" was just another name for "wolf" and only found out what wolverines really are after filming. So, I gasped at how meta the girls' comments were. LOL!
Jean is telepathic and telekinetic
And telegenic!
She was also a well-known model in New York, about the time Mary-Jane Watson ( of Spider-Man fame ) and Patsy Walker ( later the superheroine Hellcat ) as well.
Quite right.
The Power that Jean processes is not just her mutant abilities... The Phoenix, is an actual cosmic intity, and creature of pure raw emotion.
Erik Lehnsherr is my favorite "villain" in any media property. He's so layered and you can't help but sympathize and understand where he's coming from in everything he does. There's a reason him and Charles have remained friends despite being on opposite sides so often.
Often why he's classed as an "Anti-Villain", and often ends up on the Heroes side. He and Charles are based on Martin Luther King Junior and Malcolm X, both with similar goals, but different methods.
He doesn't think things through though. Mutants are being born from "normal" humans so if he wipes out all the normies, the number of new and unique mutants coming into existence will stop or at least slow down.
I think Erik Lehnsherr is that character who skirts on an anti-hero (a character of a story who lacks traditional characteristics that are associated with a conventional hero. While typically guided by the best of intentions, the anti-hero is a classically flawed character with a history of bad decisions and a questionable moral code) and an anti-villain (a villain whose goals or ends are generally benevolent, but their means of getting there are evil. They don't care about what they have to do to enact their master plan). Humanity failed him at a very young age (Holocaust), and then tried using his abilities for evil purposes, and at the end, we are somehow surprised that he turns on those people, and insists on using proven tactics in order to secure and protect mutants. We can understand how Erik ends up becoming so contemptuous of humanity, and is willing to use some very foul tactics to make them pay. For Erik, humanity will inevitably try to destroy all of the mutants, be it out of fear or envy, or whatever other motivating factor involved, and he cares more about the mutants; HIS people.
The best villains are the ones you can sympathize with. The ones who aren't entirely wrong, and you can understand how they got there. His methods may be extreme, but he's not wrong, especially with the extreme treatment he received when he was young. Humans definitely aren't good.
And I don't get it why they are constantly mispronouncing his name. It's "Lehns-Herr" (German for liege/feudal lord), not "Lehn-Sherr".
Days of future past is my fav. Getting the old and younger characters together was fun to watch.
This is hilarious. When Cassie asked her Google Home what a wolverine is, my Google gave the definition.
I think in a previous reaction, Cassie said she was amazed she was making Terminator references because she never would have been able to do that before starting this channel. And here Carly is doing it too! And I also think she did it for Rocky 4.
What do you mean by that ?
@@lexkanyima2195 They say Colossus looks like a Terminator. And in Rocky 4, they say Drago looks like a Terminator.
That metallic mutant who you described as being like The Terminator is called Colossus. Very well known in the X-Men comic series and don't be surprised if he pops up again in one or more of the films.
I thought she said in the last video that she's already seen Deadpool. I guess she doesn't recognize this Colossus as another version of that one.
@@jlilley73 Gets reminded of that 'other' role Ryan Reynolds played in X-man Origins : Wolverine.... I'm depressed now.
Is he the same guy from Deadpool? Is he supposed to be Russian?
Colossus (Metal Man) is supposed to be Russian
@@jlilley73 Yes that's probably case. This was an early glimpse of Colossus and if he wasn't named in the film then I can understand why she missed who it was.
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Magneto is a complicated antagonist; arguably the most complicated, in Marvel. He is scarred from the prejudice he experienced in life, especially the Holocaust. He fights for mutants by any means necessary, and he is not always on opposite sides with the X-Men. His methods of force are what make him clash with Charles so much.
I think Doom has a very strong argument of his own.
Stan Lee said that the nuclear bomb tests were the reason why mutants were being born more frequently. And yes a female mutant and a male mutant can have a regular human. In the comics Mystique and Sabertooth (the big blond bad guy from the 1st movie) had a kid who is a regular human.
Which pretty much puts to bed the idea that mutants are a different species than humans.
Mystique really gets around.
@@jedijones I mean that would fit a person that using sex appeal to manipulate people constantly.
@@PhilBagels Mutants are one-offs, sometimes called 'sports' in breeding of animals and flowers.
If the new / reactivated old (intron) gene is carefully preserved, or survives because it's beneficial to the descendant young, then this may, not will, result in a sub-species or even eventually a separate 'new' species.
It's how there are animals in every niche in nature.
How there are finches with all shapes of beaks, to eat all sizes of seed and nut, for example.
If, for example, Barry Allen, the Flash, were a mutant, and all his kids were also speed-force using mutants, then he could be regarded as a sub-species of humans.
If all of them had kids with 'normal' folks, and some inherited the speed and not others, then they would all be humans, not a sub-species, just a bloodline, like a line of fast racehorses.
@@stevetheduck1425 But you can't say that Bobby (Iceman) is a different species from his parents, and at the same time the same species as Ororo (Storm). If all of Iceman's kids had ice powers, and all of Storm's kids had weather powers, they wouldn't be the same species, or even the same sub-species.
It is very common for superheroes to use their abilities with restraint so as not to kill or seriously injure anyone. Wolverine is one of the prime examples of this, since those claws could easily kill. On his own he can be rough, but being with the X-Men keeps him in check. So, when he kills the guy against the fridge, it was a big sign to the audience that he wasn't holding back and was going to behave as if he was facing a bunch of guys with guns who were INVADING A SCHOOL. Given how very PG the first one was, that moment got a big reaction in the theater.
Yes this was a big tonal shift from the first one. Thinking about it compared to most superhero films in general it is one of the most full on in respect to how much violence is shown. Even compared to more recent superhero films. I'm surprised that many scenes in this weren't censored.
@@CoffeeConnected they kind of mostly were censored. Other than red lines in wolverine fights and maybe a few scenes with blood (glass chamber), it was mostly just implied deaths. Not that it was badly done, or even that blood and gore would have made the movie better. It was definitely censored from what it could have been though.
One other power Wolverine has that they don’t make super clear in the movies. He can go into a Berzerker Rage and lose it.
What you gotta do to get PG-13. R movies historically just means less population can pay to watch your production in theaters. Dead Pòol was not just a freak successful movie. It was a wildly successful R movie. @@DomSithe
Him killing that guy was like "OMG HE ACTUALLY USED HIS CLAWS ON A HUMAN AND NOT JUST DUMB BOTS"
I felt like my soul was washed away from years and years of Wolvi not being able to properly use his sh*t and him always having to kick/throw human adversaries over the place
A long time ago in the comics, there was a classic, long storyline about a cosmic force that selected Jean because she was so powerful. It was called the Phoenix Force. It possessed her, and she became so powerful she became unhinged, and then was Dark Phoenix. It had a huge impact on the team and Scott. Very famous Marvel story. That is what you see starting here.
Guess what I’m sending her soon😉😉😉Days of Future Past too!
Wolverine and Nightcrawler are really good friends in the comics. They both love beer so they’d always go out drinking together
It's weird knowing that Carly knows what Dragon Ball Z is lol
Lol i loved the fact she knew kame hand gesture 😂
You’d be hard pressed to find someone who doesn’t know anything about Dragon ball z.
@@313gwar Praying Dragonball Evolution will never appear on this channel.
@313gwar I am that rare person. I had friends growing up who watched it, and for some reason it never appealed to me. I only know the memes.
It's likely Cassie's kids watch it. If they do then they've almost certainly screamed while "powering up" or "transforming" before blasting their favorite energy attack.
This was the OG Marvel blockbuster before Disney gathered around the Avengers. People went to see this in theaters as a pasttime and came out thinking, "HOLY CRAP, THAT WAS A GOOD MOVIE!"
Wolverines are actually more closely related to skunks than wolves. Next movie has two post credit scenes if you haven't already been told
Movie would be funnier if everyone who met Wolverine kept remarking on how much he stinks.
Mustelidae, so they're in the same family as weasels, badgers, fishers, otters, martens, ferrets, minks, etc... probably one of the coolest family of mammals in existence. Mustelidae are cousins to Mephitidae, which skunks belong to.
Skunkerine.
Logan is called Wolverine because in the comics he's very short, like 5'3. He's small and fierce.
The opening of X2 is still one of the best starts to a film I've personally watched. Nightcrawler, Kurt Wagner is one of my favourite X-Men character who surprisingly got done justice in this film, so used to Wolverine getting all the development but Kurt was done really well in this movie. This film along with First Class and Days of Future Past are my top three X-Men films of all time not including the spin off movies like Logan and Deadpool. Overall my favourite X-Men content in the past 24 years is by far X-Men 97 (2024) an amazing animated series that does justice to every part of the X-Men world. Us X-Men fans have been eating good this year with Deadpool & Wolverine releasing in a few months time as well.
X-Men 97 is peak X-Men so I cannot wait for more of this quality of storytelling, Hopefully Deadpool & Wolverine is good as well. X-Men 97 should also be the blueprint for the MCU X-Men. I would feel so sad if we end up with disappointing X-Men films after the amazing X-Men 97.... Just look at Sony with the amazing animated Spider-Verse films and then what do they do... They released Madam Web. So hopefully that quality we see in X-Men animation applies to live action as well.
Personally I hope they do Gambit well in MCU X-Men... but yeah it was nice seeing Nightcrawler get the spotlight in this one
In regards to Madame Web, I knew just from the trailer that it was an underwhelming story. There are a lot of Spider-Man characters that are intriguing, but they need Spider-Man to make things more interesting.
With any and all MCU X-Men movies, they really need to do the team justice. One thing that I think can help, and this is just my opinion, is avoiding anything regarding the Phoenix until the characters are more established in the MCU. That whole saga is a nightmare to try and get right in live action. The animated series did a good job because they were allowed to do it over several episodes. Trying to cram it into a roughly two hour movie just causes a lot of context to go missing.
I thought Nightcrawler's story arc was one of the most engaging character stories of this film.
I really enjoyed the two episodes from the X-Men animated series from the 1990's that Nightcrawler appeared in. I'm really glad that he's been shown a bit more in the X-Men '97 series and hope that he becomes a mainstay on the team from now on.
In the comics, Mystique was Nightcrawler's mother, but I think that may have been retconned recently.
The retcon made Charles and Mystique closer in age.
Yes and no
Mystique is still Nightcrawler’s parent in the comics is all I will say.
Yes, the retconned is that Mystique and her female lover are Kurt's parents. Previously, Mystique and Azazel were his parents.
Ya she's now his father....really
I love how much braver Cassie is now. Takes so much more to make her flinch 😃
Eric isn't actually evil, he just doesn't see a future where mutants are safe from humans and because of that he feels like it his responsibility to save them at any cost.
Eric is a product of human mistreatment because of the pain they have caused him over the years. The next few movies will give you a better idea of why he is the way he is.
That opening sequence was one of the best action pieces ever put to film. Iconic.
I love that you are learning new things all the time and your affection for Logan is growing as his is the most developed of all the characters.
They're learneding!
And Rogue to an extent. Was watching some scenes from the animated show and the characterization is soooo different.
45:21 a Wolverine is an actual animal. Also, it is the name of the school mascot in the movie Red Dawn (1984) with a lot of popular actors. You reacted to the movie last year. Remember them shouting: "WOLVERINES!!!" when they were fighting back against the Russians?
Good catch! In the comics, Nightcrawler is the son of Mystique and the demon mutant, Azazel. Azazel can also teleport and has the same tail but he's red.
Mystique likes to breed the best traits of mutants.
😂
@@3Kings_Industries She's a horndog.
That story was actually retconned fairly recently, now Nightcrawler is the son of Mystique and the mutant Destiny.
Y'all never disappoint. I love the way you two play off each other! X2 was definitely a highlight theater experience. Opening night, just opened a theater across from the street from campus right before finals. Comic geeks, movie nerds and the general movie going public were in awe. The opening scene with Night crawler is so deliciously epic! The whole theater applauded when he saved Rogue too. Fantastic movie, fantastic experience and two fantastic and increasingly nerdy reactors watching it just made my night. Cheers!
Remember The Last Stand, Origins Wolverine, The Wolverine, Days of Future Past & Apocalypse have end credit scenes. Don't forget to watch those too 😉.
DOFP is still my favorite of the entire series, and is an amazing lead-in to the chronological flashback of FC (exploring the new timeline instead would have been great too, but just impossible to pull off.)
Also not forgetting Logan
@@MrTommygunz420 DOFP is the only reasonable choice for best in the series, sad how sharp the decline was after that.
@@MrMistreated That movie doesn't have end credit scenes.
I think after x3 they should only watch first class, DOFP and logan. All the others will probably bore them out.
In the comics Logan is famously a short guy (5 feet 3 inches) but extremely ferocious. That's why the name Wolverine fits. But Hugh Jackman is 6'3" ! In the first X-men movie they tried very hard to make him look smaller than he really is, even filming him shorter than Scott, but by this movie they gave up on that.
Doesn't surprise me they gave up on the height thing. Hugh Jackman was the focus, and so good in the part they wanted him to look as heroic as possible. Which meant axing some of the quirks of the character.
I LOVE you two!!! Cassie: I am going to ask a stupid question. Is there a Wolverine? Carly: Yeah!? It's a wolf.
You two are so innocent and genuine and its amazingly refreshing. There is no shame in that question or answer. Carlies conviction to her answer made it so much better though. We all learn new things all the time. Way to take it in stride.
Some fun facts about a few of the students:
The big guy who turned into metal is named Piotr 'Peter' Rasputin (born in Russia) Code name: Colossus. Mutant ability: able to transform his skin into a virtually impervious organic steel. This also makes him incredibly strong.
The girl with the sonic scream is named Theresa Roarke Cassidy Code name: Siryn Possesses a devastating sonic scream. In the comics, she is the daughter of former X-Man Sean Cassidy, code name Banshee, whose ability is the same as hers. Both father & daughter are from Ireland. Banshee will make his first appearance in the movie X-Men: First Class.
The girl who disappeared through the bed is named Katherine 'Kitty' Pryde Code name Shadowcat (although in the comics, she actually went by the code names Ariel & Sprite before settling on her current code name). Has the ability to 'phase'/pass through solid objects, with the side effect of shorting out any electronic system her body passes through, an ability she has put to considerable use in the comics to disable the bad guys' computers & other electronic devices. She also learned how to extend her phasing ability to others by holding on to them & concentrating real hard.
There have been many entertaining superhero films but I've always felt that X2 was the closest to capturing the feel of reading a good comic book.
Hugh Jackman studied wolves in preparation for the role. When Bryan Singer asked him why not wolverines, he replied "because wolverines aren't real".
Doesn't really matter, does it? That isn't his mutation, it's his Army name.
The reflection in the water at the end is a hint that really only comic book fans would have picked up on.
If you know, you know!
Not just comic book readers, I watched the 90's cartoon so that's how I got it
Funfact:
Wolverine in the end actually ends up with storm they even have a child together.. there's a deleted scene in "DOFP" that pays homage to the comics 💯🍿
You sure ?
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X2 is not my fave in the entire series (that title is reserved for DOFP), but it is without question my fave in the original trilogy…more than 20 years later and that opening scene is still dynamite! 👏
Oh yeah, of the original 3, this one is considered the best received by audiences.
💯💯💯💯💯
X2 and DOFP are among my favourite Superhero films, they might be flawed but they make up for that in how much heart and soul they have
Hugh Jackman as wolverine is up there with one of the greatest casting choices in movie history. Amazing actor
A lot of the casting here is spot on - Magneto and Prof. X are perfect
@@neilbiggs1353couldn’t agree more 👌🏼
He got one thing wrong, he was Wayyyyyyy to tall.
Imagine Superman being short or Robin being taller than Batman. Height is a pretty defining trait for any character, and Jackman was so tall as Wolvie is like five foot five inches. Also he never showed us Wolverine unfortunately, he always showed us Logan, the civilian identity. Like, Superman+ Wolverine are the superhero persona, meaning they both wear underwear on the outside, bright colors, spandex and either a cape or mask for over 35 years, wheras Clark Kent + Logan is the civilian identity and they can walk down the street w/no problem. So if we saw Christopher Reeve flying around as Clark Kent and using his strength as Clark Kent, that would be the equivalent of how Jackman was always the civilian identity of Logan doing all the action, never getting to see Wolverine, which is the name of his SUPERHERO ego.
But despite those two things, no wolvie and too tall, he is certainly a fantastic representation of the character. He LOOKED just like Logan and acted just like Logan, he was really amazing and still is. Of course they made him to look + act like Clint Eastwoods movie characters because that's who the Logan character in the comics was actually based on. Jackman was basically doing Eastwood since Logan in the comics was always portrayed to be Eastwood....so I wonder why they didn't cast Clint Eastwood for Old Man Logan??
@@paulpolpiboon9535So, what were they supposed to do, cast a midget? The original choice for the role also would've been too tall to be comic book accurate.
@@paulpolpiboon9535Hugh Jackman is 6 foot 3, wolverine is 5 foot 3. So yeah. Glenn Danzig is also 5 foot 3.
The ending to X2 had comic book fans so hyped for what was to come, kinda like seeing the end credit scene for Avengers with Thanos. We kinda knew where the story was going, but let's just say only one lived up to the hype.
heh, wolverine being a Canadian native is an excellent plot twist😂
and also an excellent example of Cassie and Carly being themselves. a genuine reaction to an artwork is far more interesting than a contrived performance.
keep being yourselves, ladies🙌😊
In the comics, Nightcrawler is the son of Mystique and Azazel. You'll meet him in First Class
The thing about Magneto is that he isn't... completely evil or completely wrong. He is extreme. He is the violent revolution. Xavier is... more optimistic. He believes people can work together... be better... he doesn't want violence or casualties... he'll fight for what he believes in, and to save others but does not believe in war as a means to an end.
Xavier is also wiser in that he knows a war, will cost lives and unless genocide occurs the survivors will not stay defeated... without trying.
Magneto is way less nefarious than Stryker..whether he is wrong or not .. who knows..! But ok he is wrong because his end call is dominance and not co-existance. Just like US foreign policy the last 60 years.
Wow, they said Stan Lee based it off of Martin Luther King and Malcom X . It's totally all there, I love it. Good explanation and insight.
Fun fact: In the comic and animated series of X Men, Mystique was Rogues adoptive mom and Night Crawlers' actual mom.
45:15 - Hugh Jackman made the same mistake and based a lot of Wolverine’s physicality on wolves for the first movie. i remember his doing press for it talking about how when he’s in character, he’s always eying his surroundings and positioning his nose to the ground and taking in the other characters’ scents, etc.
years later, i think on a junket for Logan, he revealed how embarrassed he was when someone clued him in that a wolverine is basically a mean super-badger
During a home invasion Logan is the best baby sitter you could have. Lol
X2: Mutant Boogaloo
The best of the X trilogy. I wish Rogue had more to do,, but other than that it's pretty solid.
I agree as well. I feel like if they did some rewrites to X-men: The Last Stand, including Gambit and cutting out the Phoenix Saga, Rogue could've been done much more justice than what they gave us. Her and Gambit meeting and forming a friendship while Rogue is on a break from Iceman, who's getting closer with Kitty Pryde would've opened the door for a future romance and build her confidence from having someone who chooses to be with her despite the risks to his life, because as Gambit in X-men '97 said, *some things are deeper than skin.* Plus, can you imagine if Rogue and Gambit had been in the lineup alongside Wolverine, Storm, Colossus, and Beast?
Thats true but realisticly among a group of mutants with the powers they have going up against soldiers with guns what could she really have done. Her mutation isent exactly suitable for anything that isent very very close combat. And even then her powers isent exactly instant.
@Shiftry87 Maybe if they had othet controlled mutant subordinates to Stryker, outside of Deathstrike, among the soldiers, it might've made it more interesting and given Rogue more to do. Can you imagine if they had Avalanche, Karma, or Black Tom there? Oh my God, I just had an idea for a rewrite.
Something that is hard to understand because not really conveyed except in other movies. Jean didn't just sacrifice herself to save others. She felt something else, a change and maybe wanted to sacrifice herself. She was trying to save her friends in more than one way.
A few thoughts - I remember losing my sh*t at the end scene in theaters, James Marsden's final scenes on the jet are absolutely phenomenal, and Wolverine's line to Cyclops "She made a choice, she chose you" hits a little harder after ep 5 of Xmen 97 (knowing that a certain character was 'chosen' by their love, but didn't live to find out).
Mutant births in X-Men stories are kind of like twins in the real world. Non twins have a low chance of having twins but when one of the parents is a twin themselves, the chances are higher for them to have twins. When both parents are Mutants the odds are even more likely.
Carlie was on the ball with X2! She nailed those mutation situations.
Maybe it's the thinking cap?😉
Wolverines are real animals, closely related to badgers. They have been described as "100 pounds of mean in a 50 pound bag." Which is kind of funny, because while Wolverine is ferocious and ruthless when needed, and relies a lot on sarcasm, he's not really mean at all.
The fight between Wolverine and Lady Deathstrike was the standout fight and it drew strong reactions and cheers from moviegoers inside the cinema on opening day.
Best reaction is learning that a "wolverine" is a real animal.
And is not a wolf.
Somebody should have told that to the writers of X-Men Origins Wolverine! 😂
ok now we gotta write the plot of the movie The Calculator starring the TI-1000 as the main villain
The amount of pure joy and cheering when Jean lit up to protect the plane and when the phoenix silhouette appeared beneath the water. I never saw audiences cheer louder than that until Avenger's Endgame when Cap said "Assemble"
Calling Colossus Terminator got me laughing.
There's a lot of reasons to hate Stryker. He's a lot less human than he claims to be.
i love when the cat 1.licks logans claw 2.licks the ice tea
The claws are covered in blood? Wolverine's and maybe some of the soldier's from earlier?
@@toddlower5546 Um no in the kitchen of bobbys house wolverine pulls out his claws and a cat licks the middle claw.
@gregkirby9059 his claws are in his hand surrounded by his skin and blood, then they cut their way through his skin. So I'd say yes, his blood and cells still could be on them.
I was gonna take issue with your calling it "ice tea" but i mean you're right
You do hear the cat whimper when he quickly retracts the claws in the kitchen, so...
Cassie you triggered my Google Home when you asked yours what a wolverine was!
What you see in the water at the end of the movie is the shadow of a Phoenix, which is a mystical bird that can burn to death and be reborn from the ashes. Jean will become known as the Dark Phoenix.
In the comics, Mystique (the blue lady) is actually Nightcrawler's mom, but they changed it for the movies so they put in that nice interaction scene instead.
And the lady with the adamantium fingernails is in comics too - she is Lady Deathstrike and she has other cybernetic implants in the comics, but they left it out for the movies for some reason.
Anyway, some fun facts for you, if you're interested. :)
I am always sad that Kumiko died before remembering the love her and Wolverine had, and that he killed her without knowing she was someone he loved immensely. In a case of tragedy of misunderstanding in the comics, Kuniko believes Wolverine stole her father's tech, and voluntarily becomes a part of the Weapon X program to seek revenge. They were certainly on again off again in the comics, but this shit just hurts because of Bryan Singer and his bull.
Fun fact: the plot of this film was based on Marvel Graphic Novel X-Men God Loves Man Kills. Televangelist William Stryker kidnaps Professor X to activate his version of Cerebro in an attempt toeliminate all mutants
Yes, one of the first X-Men stories I ever read. Marvel was putting out some kick-ass graphic novels in the early '80s. When DC made the format famous with Dark Knight Returns and Watchmen, they were following in the footsteps of Marvel who had started the adult-geared graphic novel years earlier.
Awww, these two have no idea what the Phoenix force is and how it saved and possessed Jean. It’s reflection was what was seen in the water at the end but they couldn’t process what the image was or meant.
The metal guy Colossus, in the Comic Books, he’s Russian, the movie Deadpool portrays him accurately , he has a sister named Magik….her real name is Illyana Rasputin.
I forgot to mention. That fine ass woman that had claws like wolverine is Yuriko bka Lady deathstrike. They most likely knew each other some time before Wolverine lost his memory. He was with her too😂.
Logan gets around.
@@ct6852 He had 150 years of one night stands lol.
This movie gave no indication he knew her.
@@thatperformer3879 For real. Is he capable of producing kids?
Wolverines are part of the badger family of animals. They are vicious and ferocious.
The wolverine is most closely related to weasels, badgers, and otters. You can kind of think of him as a strong, ferocious badger! Don't feel too badly, though. At the beginning of filming X-Men, Hugh Jackman himself thought the wolverine was an imaginary creature based on a wolf. The director had to correct him when he started bringing wolfish traits into his role!
Wolverines are vicious animals when threatened, but they're much smaller than bears are weighing between 20 and 50 pounds on average. They are more closely related to Badgers.
Carly at the fight scene. 😂😂😂 Cassie seems like the badass of the family. 💪 Lol
That's Cassie's character
I would be here just for Carly and Cass searching the internet for animals they don’t know. 😂
Magneto is a very complicated character. He wants mutants to be safe. He doesn’t want mutants to face the horrors he had to face in the concentration camps. The way he goes about it though is evil. He isn’t afraid to cross the “line” because to him, humanity showed him its true colors in the 1940s.
I have always loved the relationship between Xavier and Magneto.. The amount of respect they have for each other, even though they disagree.. Wish our world leaders and politicians take more inspiration from that.
Canadians who didn't know what a wolverine was,,,, hmmm,,, I don't know what to say
What about/aboot Alpha Flight? 🤔😋
University of Michigan Wolverines! GO BLUE!
@@SGlitzGo Blue!
I'd say that's in line with these two, and unsurprising.
@@Eidlones sheltered and uneducated, we have a long way to go.
The intro with Nightcrawler infiltrating the Oval Office is indescribably bad-ass.
Colossus isn't a mini-terminator. He's actually 6'7". Jackman is 6'3" and Arnold "used" to be 6'2" as he shrunk a bit as he got older. He's about 5'10" these days.
Magneto isn’t necessarily “evil.” He’s an extremist, yes, but only because he believes there is no other way to preserve life for mutants.
This comes from the fact that Erik is a holocaust survivor. He’s already seen first hand what happens when man decides another race is lesser. He won’t allow that to happen to mutants.
I don't think that you're wrong about Magneto wanting mutants to be above the humans, but it's because he has seen firsthand that humankind will attack mutant-kind at the first moment they're scared. So in his heart, he doesn't believe that a true scenario of mutual coexistence is possible.
His thinking might be flawed, or he might be right, but I see the nuanced difference that it's not a pure power play of wanting to be on top. Rather, in his mind, it is genuinely about survival.
it's crazy that someone like him see and survives the Holocaust wouldn't think like a Nazi
According to early X-Men comics, Professor Xavier described the rise of mutants as a result of exposure to nuclear radiation.
Mutants are superhuman beings that are born with a genetic mutation called an X-Gene that causes their bodies to develop abilities that regular humans don't have.
Logan's rampage through the mansion when Stryker's men attack is my favourite part of this whole movie! And I like the detail of the 6 puncture holes in the fridge door after he impales the soldier against it
Jean was my favorite character growing up in the 90s and being a huge fan of the comics and the animated series. That shot of the lake at the end had me in a vice grip. 😎
At the time my friend immediately said "Phoenix" and I was like huh? All I saw was some vaguely brown algae in the water. lol
Fun Fact: The actor for Colossus (The guy who tuned into metal) is 4 inches taller than Arnold Schwarzenegger. So it turns out that Arnold is actually a mini-him
I love that trivia!
In the comics, Peter is 6'6" but when he transmutes he's 7'5"!
- I wish we could have seen more of him, he is kind of a bit of a favorite of mine, although I know many others in more detail and love many of the X-Men for their awesome special powers etc, there is just something really appealing about the basic simplicity of Colossus - his Special Power is basically exactly that,; Power, raw and incarnate, to be honest I think besides Magneto and Professor X, either of whom could stop him easily, he would otherwise be a pretty unstoppable opponent.
@@jackwalsh6758 Oh yeah he towers over everyone in the X-Men. I forgot how tall Colossus actually was until I came across a height chart of Marvel characters.
@@Arthaius He's my favourite X-Men as well.
A Wolverine is NOT a bear, it is the largest most ferocious member of the weasel family, capable of killing prey several times its size. Interestingly for PIB fans, it is found primarily in Northern Canada and Alaska. And in the X-men cinematic universe, Wolverine is played expertly by Hugh Jackman.
I remember years ago telling someone a wolverine was like a furry komodo dragon. They didn't know what a komodo dragon was at the time either. 😄
The reason why so many mutants are blue is because it's based on comic books. A clear and obvious way to depict a person as being not-a-normal-human is to have them be a different color. Nightcrawler, Mystique, the Kree, Polaris, Nebula, etc. There have been many blue characters in Marvel and in other comics. Just like there are some green characters, too: the Hulk, the Abomination, the Skrulls, Gamora, etc. Other characters come in purple - there's even a villain called "The Purple Man", and he has a daughter called "The Purple Girl", red, orange, yellow, gray, etc. Comic books have always relied on being colorful.
The reason why so many mutants have red hair, is because it's a real mutation that was popular, and so people with red hair were more likely to have kids, so red-heads are hot, attractive and a popular colour in comics.
The blue or green or red mutants are basically due to the Pulp Magazines hid their cross-race romances by making an exotic alien woman such colours, like in John Carter of Mars, which was a western until someone objected to the white man falling for a red woman; the black guys became the green martians, and the white martians are the evil white men, that Joh Carter no longer feels any affinity for.
Basically, science fantasy and science fiction broke the US anti-miscegenation laws to sell magazines.
They also employed black writers when no-one else would, too.
Star Trek DS9 covered this bit of history as well.