Interview - Why Mark Andes was Dissapointed with Heart
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The Beatles changed too, from their early years to the later years. Time marches on.
The Heart mid/late 80s hits were over produced, but still very good songs. Hearing Heart play those songs in recent years "live" they take on a much better tone. ALONE and THESE DREAMS are great songs. The videos were crap, but most of them were in the 80s.
I hope Mark is proud of those songs he played on. The were very good.
The Beatles didn't change. They evolved and grew. Heart "changed", and not for the better.
I agree 100%. I too preferred the early era of Heart!
It's nice to hear from Mark that he wanted to let let it rip like the early HEART with Roger.
Before Heart's 1985 "comeback", pre- trudy green , Heart was almost gone. Their EPIC contract ended, Private Audition and Passionworks were so so and light in sales and the songs were not appealing to other than to core fans (i was a core fan then and like both albums). Even though the "80s" version of Heart is now viewed as negative or cheesy, it was an amazing transformation for them for that era. HK, Trudy Green and Capital Records did a great job re-branding Heart as an 80's band given the higher reliance on music videos vs. radio. 70s Heart couldn't have survived in the 80s, especially without Roger Fisher and with Mike Fisher's direction and Heart would have disbanded by 1985. Here is a great concert from 1986 supporting their "Heart" album tour. It was rockin and fun. ua-cam.com/video/9ziaBxHDq7M/v-deo.html That transformation made them all very wealthy too LOL
I agree and they weren’t the only band. Fleetwood Mac basically did the same thing. Looking back they had to do what they had to do to survive. It’s very forgivable.
Truth, Mark! Yeah, whatever happened to the cool hippie chicks that Ann and Nancy were, the mysterious lyrics in their songs, the romanticism of Heart? It all went away in the eighties, as they jumped on the Big Hair Bandwagon. And of course, their music was sorely missing Roger Fisher's brilliant guitar work post 1980.
As a traditional Heart purist from the 70s I also had a tough transition with the band going Hollywood in the mid-80s. Not that they still didn't deliver with solid material on occasion ("Alone" is exceptional), but I missed the brilliant folk/rock creations from their golden era. And yes, Mark glamoured up with the flashy wardrobe, hairspray, and dangling earrings to play the part. No criticism from me as I would have also played the part in a heartbeat given the opportunity. But I appreciate how he recognizes it for what it was and feels the same about their career.
Although the 80s (especially the early part) did give us some great music, I feel that it has in general aged worse (much) than the 60s or 70s. I often listen to material from the two prior decades, and it sounds simply like musician/writers honestly plying their craft, doing what they do best. The 80s -- both the fashion and the sound -- often conveys as very affected to me. Too slick, over produced, trying too hard to be perceived a certain way. I've no doubt Heart, like so many bands, was under great pressure to bow to the trends. To their credit, they still produced some decent material in that period, but it looked and felt much more like a corporate product, than personal art.
Loved the heart and bad animals albums from the 80s
What a great sound . 🎸🎙
Heart hit pay dirt with hair metal but the early years were so much more interesting musically.
Wow this is really good,, Mark is family, what a guy.
I had always wondered why Mark and Denny exited the band in the early 90s. Unfortunately living down here in Sydney at the time, that lineup of the band never played down here.
I know I’m in the minority, but Passionworks is still close to my fave record...
Honestly, you didn't miss much. That lineup of Heart was the weakest live band of any of the three main incarnations. It's the only iteration of Heart that sounded better on the studio recordings than live. I'm not sure why that is because all of the members were really talented. But for whatever reason the guitars used less distortion, the bass was way back in the mix, and they just didn't sound that good live. The original 1976-82 band and the modern version of Heart both sound excellent live, and in most cases better than their studio recordings. They are heavier, rawer, and don't cut corners on their sound like that 80s/90s lineup did. And I agree, Passionworks was a really good, underrated album.
Mark discovered me through his old girlfriend in 1986, Venice, Ca. He loved my music and wanted to work with me and get a record deal. We hung out for awhile, he invited me to his wedding reception, sat in my studio and talked about the plans. It all went south because of his Heart deal. Good guy, no regrets. See me- UA-cam- Russ Coletti
I snuck onstage in 1977 and kissed Mark on the lips! I was just telling my husband this story, and felt the need to check out Mark today - he is a cool dude, still. What a cutie!!
As far as artists passing, I have a theory. A lot of musicians have passed away from cancer. I'm wondering if the years of being on stage with the smoke (effects and "otherwise") and chemicals used to produce effects take their toll. Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull said as much in an interview. Correlation doesn't equal causation, but it seems to be there might be some dots to connect.
MrWheeler715 - I agree, I've also read interviews with Ian Anderson where he mentions the affect of smoke machines onstage on his voiceIm . Also lifestyle choices, I've noticed a number of well known musicians here in Australia have died from what I call 'Musicians(aka Liver) cancer', a combination of the affects of long term smoking whatever, long term excessive amounts of alcohol , and in some cases intravenous drug use at one time or another. I'm not making a moral) character judgement. These pastimes come with the territory for professional musicians, the further up the ladder of success you are, the more the lifestyle temptations, the greater sadly the mortality rate.
Wow that sounds petty, Mark. That hair spray and radio play made you more money than any other band you have been in.
80's Heart was the best...that fashion, seducing look and music was killer
I loved his Spirit days!
Mark, I love all the music you have done. Was sooo happy when I found out you joined HEART. You are such a humble person in addition to your spoken gratitude. Congrats on the new album!
I've been a fan of Mark since the Spirit days. I loved his playing and his bass sound on those records, and saw them three times over the years, once with the original band and two other later shows with different lineups. I also followed Marks appearances in the bands he was in after he left Spirit. He has always been great.
It will be interesting to see who out of the original lineup of Firefall is present on this new album. I enjoyed a lot of their songs in the past, and there was a lot of talent in that band.
Really enjoyed these interview segments with Mark Andes, I hope there are more to come.
Heart's mid- to late-80s period was their finest, however commercial. "Alone" is one of the greatest songs, and has one of most extraordinary vocal performances, of the decade.
Had fun getting here .... don't know if I'd do anything different myself 🎶🕉🍏
Mark Andes played for Stevie Nicks' 91 tour, and -- to this day -- it is the best backing band Stevie EVER had. Absolutely rocking period.
love
If you read the bio done by both Ann and Nancy they didn't like what they produced from 1985 till the end. Not much else to be said.
Mark was really into my career back in 1987 in Venice. He was trying to get his old band mates from Spirit to record me. Mark is an honest good Dude. Check out ,Russ Coletti on UA-cam.
'Denny.....or Derosier? God.......Both incredible players. I've been a "Denny fan'...for 50 years now. But also have to admit... good god....the 'chops'... Michael Had?? ...... Total Beast. Denny was more 'Refined' and 'simplified' the parts...for Heart. especially during the '80's...streamline' period. Both killer drummers....and i love 'em.........Both!
I know there were many changes, and some phases were harder to get used to than the earlier days, but I can’t say I have ever disliked anything they did. I have been a Heart fan since day one. I saw them about 5 years ago here in the Palm Springs area at a casino, and they were great, but there were facets of the earlier days that I missed... and the most disappointing thing that night was the show was really short .... seemed like an hour if that
Sisters folding the band after the massively successful Brigade; reminds me of Eddie folding VH by firing Sammy.
Not trying to throw anybody under the bus, but back in the MTV days, the rumor I always heard was that either Andes or drummer Denny Carmassi said some very unflattering things about Ann's weight and it did not go down well.
Well, she was a blimp. Lets not sugarcoat it.
Was said in the Behind the Music on the band. Nancy herself mentioned band members coming right to her about having Ann lose weight.
Once the girls turned their backs on the boys, it was never the same. Full stop! (P.S. Proud of myself that I knew who HK (Mgmt) was :)
I always thought that he was one of the band members that wanted that
Wow! I thought the guy on the right was Robert Downey Jr. at first.
Maybe he doesn't have any sisters who can sing.
.lol .jealousy? Whatever. Who cares what he thinks ?
3cheers from Canada
That example sounds painful and embarassing for sure. I halfway expected Mark to mention the incident at the Santa Monica Civic auditorium in 1975. FIREFALL opened the show for the SPIRIT reunion. Marks trusty Acoustic bass amplifier failed, causing a delay. Embarassing, certainly. Perhaps not as embarassing as the moment Neil Young came out to join in the chorus of Dylans' "Like a Rolling Stone" . Randy California tried to brush Neil away from the microphone and off the stage,
causing Ed Cassidy to stop drumming and join Neil at the mic and start singing with him.
I was embarrassed for everyone on stage at Randys behaviour.
Yea the 80’s sucked as far as originality, but Heart was about to not exist unless they made that transition. Wilson’s survived it and got past it. And there were some good songs that came out of it.
Early heart was best to me. First 5 albums or so. Why the sisters agreed to get all glammy and focus on their appearance and opt for sappy ballads written by others, I'll never know.
They’re not fans of that era either. The few songs they do from it are stripped down or totally acoustic.
Thankfully they went back to their roots.
They were told that after 10 years, they were at the end of the line for a rock group. The only way any record label would touch them was if they agreed to a major makeover and forced to record music written by outside writers . They agree, they sold their souls to the devil so to speak in order to be given a second chance at success as they didn’t have much in the very early 80’s. It paid off, they became enormously popular.
Sappy ballads? I found their 80s power ballads more enjoyable to my ears than the ancient sound ones of 70s.
@@TheKestevon Sappy and pathetic. The guy nailed it.
@@TheKestevon they still had rock edge. I loved their 80s music as well, but they always did folksy ballads like Dog & Butterfly so why this acting like original Heart didn't have that?
Ann loves sweets!
I would've NEVER guessed you're 60 John. Would've said 50 at most.
Heart rocks, firefall sucks....
Said the little deaf troll.
Ann loves cookies pies and cakes!
Your point?
She’s one of the best vocalists ever. Who the hell cares what she eats or weighs?