[OUTDATED (slightly?)] HIT OR MISS PATCH? | 2.4 Pull Value Analysis - Honkai: Star Rail
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
- 2 new banners featuring Yunli and Jiaoqiu and 2 new reruns featuring Huohuo and Black Swan are coming to version 2.4 Here are some opinions to help you decide who to pull for!
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🔴 Yes, sorry, the dreamers didn’t dream correctly 😭😭.
It is not Black Swan, rather it is Sparkle on the second half.
And honestly, it’s better, so go ahead and pull for her, you won’t regret it.
great, now i gotta choose between her and huohuo
Shame, don’t make leaks video like this
@@solstice003same 😢
@@solstice003same :(( and I like them both as well 😢 sucks for us.
Black Swan is absolutely insane…gets even better with Kafka but not necessary. If you have both and put in RM it gets insane, that team can brute force any content irregardless of mechanics
Rip Jiaoqiu.. when he first released, i was considering pulling him.. i never would've predicted the waves of nerfs
his e1 still makes him stronger than pela or silver wolf, and his e2 with light cone makes him a great support for dot team. i think long term he will be very worth it even with all the nerfs
@@caylarabdk8389saying 2 copies of a limited 5 star is better then a 4 star pela really doesn’t help his case
@@_Gabimaru I think he's more of a whale focused unit, he might be the most busted universal debuffer ever when at E6. His E1, E2, and E6 is busted. 27% All-Type Resistance Reduction is crazy. True, all 5 star units are busted when at E6, but his debuffs are on a whole different level.
@@caylarabdk8389you know what better than e1 limited? Another new limited character.
@@omgkairuheres an important question, is eos0 worth the pull?
I want to see Jiaoqiu supporting Hook. He has permanent Burn DoT for Hook to deal more damage & generate more energy. It also makes building Hook much easier as she no longer have to go for EHR.
combine it with March/Gepard/Aventurine universal market LC, that's a whole team for Hook
hook with guinaifen?
@@recursion-skibidi Even better, run all 3 of them + Trend LC😂. Mono burning team!
@@AevyCh sounds good af
@@jerryeljeremy7790I heard a rumor somewhere saying there’s going to be a new fire preservation unit, with the lightcone and the character being fire will work wonders (or overkill) imo.
Sorry Jiaoque, Black Swan is the nihility I'm taking home 🏡
man i dont have kafka but really want bs should i still go for her?
@@kanusaraogi3464 theres a good chance you can get both since kafka isnt this patch
@@kanusaraogi3464
The short answer is: yes, you can still go for her if you like her even with no kafka
BS without Kafka is just fine, if you want to play her dot teams, you can play her with sampo and if I remember correctly it's just 10-15% worse than Kafka( although sampo is preferably E6 cause his eidolons help alot) And you can also kind of play her as a support because of her def shred on E. She's actually a pretty decent option in Acheron teams, you can think of her as a little bit worse pela in a support role in that sense
Definitely I run bs with acheron@@kanusaraogi3464
@@Daverf1f Yes, with Eidolons Sampu can proc his dot thus increasing BS dot too
definitely gonna be going for huohuo as i skipped her banner before lmao, im on guaranteed so its a win
They nerfed Jiaoqu because
1. He’s male
2. He’s male and his best dps partner is a waifu, thus waifu lovers would hate that their waifu’s best support is a male
3. He’s male
😂
PERIODT
@@lAzurelyI mean he's not wrong. They'd think twice if it was waifu, even if they did nerf the female character, they wouldn't go THAT far.
Let's be honest here
@@lAzurelyokay, answer me this. Which male character is actually broken in star rail? What's that? None(or u could argue aventurine but nah he's not broken in my book, just a great preservation unit). Now, how many female characters are broken? Exactly
1. He looks like an NPC
2. He looks like an NPC
3. See #1 and 2
I have a hypercarry team, a FuA team, and a breakness team. That's why Black Swan is all I need for the DoT team since I don't have a single one of them. Wish me luck for her's pulls, guys.
Honestly, I have no clue why they nerfed Jiaoqiu so hard, if Hoyo wanted to make money, making him Acheron's best support would've made a lot of sales, but no, all the nerfs came. (Random theory, but did they drop him because Firefly's banner ended up making more sales than Acheron? And then they decided to go for a break effect meta since Feixiao is supposedly tied to break, and Lingsha is leaked to be an amazing sustain for break teams?)
@@awesomeawesome4188 they nerfed him because acheron is just that good and with him she became so op. now hes just an upgrade for her, but due to the nerfs hes literally so bad outside of acheron. like they couldve atleast made his ult keep the infinite stacks and add dot vulnerability to his ult, but noooo
but i guess they CAN just opt ppl to buying break meta stuff cuz its easily countered (enemies w toughness lock) so they make more money overall
They nerfed him because he made Acheron too op and that will affect their selling value of incoming DPS characters especially with E2 Acheron, basically Acheron will now make every incoming nihility balanced ("trash") around her...well it was their fault for making Acheron I guess
Idk why Acheron even needed a support Why not Blade lol
i'm so mad because they just don't want acheron to be more op and broken than she already is to the point that jiaoqiu is not even a decent upgrade just overall worse guinaifen. if he isn't a broken acheron support he could've at least been a somewhat decent support but no they had to nerf him so badly.
The fact I was going to break f2p for Jiaoqiu but i saw the massive nerfs so I'm just going to pull for Black Swan
hsr making limited 5*s tailor made for other limited 5*s is crazy
I am pulling Yunli no matter what
Same
as a guy with no Clara every PF that recommends Physical during a follow-up-attack-focused timeframe has been painful so I’m pulling for Yunli too just because if I lose the 50/50 to Clara either way my problem is solved
Same her kit looks so cool
@SordidusFellatiohe meant the animation and design of Yunli. you must be so slow to not even understand a simple sentence.
@@Gurenn83 animation and design isn’t a kit??? A unit can have godly animations and the shittiest kit ever. Clearly you’re the one who couldn’t understand 🤷♂️
BLACK SWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN I WILL GET U HOME WHETHER U LIKE IT OR NOT.
MY ACHERON CAN WAIT FOR JIAOQIU
That masked fool will come home.
I’m going for e1/e2 s1 jiao qiu (e0, e1, light cone, e2 is my order) even if they keep nerfing him just because I love his design and animations so much
I don’t even have Acheron but I just want him because he’s so cute and I need supports
You shouldn't worry then ! The thing about Jiaoqiu I don't see talked about is that it's only at E0S0 that he truly is underwhelming. It's kind of fun how no one mentions about how he is probably the most vertical investment-reliant unit in the game right now. S1 gives huge debuff and the built-in EHR + very high base ATK helps to build him to do actual damage with his burn, E1 makes his debuff very competitive with what all the Limited harmonies offer, and E2 pushes him over the edge and imo makes him way more valuable than what E2 SW or Swan would give you by a mile. He becomes the uncontested best third slot for DoT Team and still an insane debuffer that also casually throws a 50k+ DoT at enemies for other teams only considering his own debuffs btw, it can get much higher than that with other supports), free of constraints (unlike Swan requiring other teammates). I personally consider him at E2S1 to be just as worth as even other E2S1 harmonies, just in different team setups.
tl;dr if you like Jiaoqiu a lot as a character and want to give him dupes and sig, then you most lkely won't regret it !
@@Zephyrion22because vertical investment should not be necessary to make an underwhelming character into a slightly better than a 4 star level character
@@kacper0563 You're misunderstanding what I meant. Jiaoqiu's E0S0 state IS unacceptable. But if you're someone who wants to invest into Jiaoqiu because you love the character, then it's good to know that you're also getting something out of it
By all means, do NOT spend your hard-earned jades, or real earned money for vertical investment on him unless Jiaoqiu is a character you like enough to go all in, and be happy to know that as an extra, your loved character is getting good value from it !
And with all that being said tho, E1S1+ Jiaoqiu IS actually a very good 5 STAR character which makes it all the sadder they put so much power budget in his eidolons and signature, since he isn't even popular enough for a vast majority of people to want to ever do that in the first place.
@@Zephyrion22 I'd argue that investing into such an underwhelming unit is a waste of resources, favourite character or not. For example, Seele was my favourite when I started playing at launch, so much so that I even got her lightcone, but I never use her or even have relics on her because she is simply garbage compared to other units I have, and I would have much preferred to have dhil instead of her.
@@kacper0563 Completely different cases here. Some characters benefit way more heavily from vertical investment than others. I'm not saying that to justify vertical investment mind you. Just, for example if I decided to go ham and get E2 on Boothill, it wouldn't be that impactful because it leads to around like a ~15% increase + slight QoL for the price of two characters, not to mention Boothill is fairly strong at E0, because they *allocated* his power budget like that
as a point of comparison, everyone mentions how characters like E2S1 Ruan Mei or E2S1 Sparkle are absolutely busted and are near impossible to powercreep in the near future, or else the game would become an absolute shitshow Well, E2S1 Jiaoqiu compared to E0 is even more of a personal + team damage increase than these two (E1S1 is usually a almost 30% damage increase for the entire TEAM and E2 literaly DOUBLES his personal damage which is nothing to scoff at since his DoT *does* contribute to team damage and isn't as bad as people make it to be due to his innately super high attack scalings).
Now the difference is Ruan Mei and Sparkle at E0S0 are very strong. But for Jiaoqiu they decided to allocate part of the power that SHOULD be baseline into his eidolons/sig. So in his case it's not that it's a waste of resources, it's that you shouldn't be having to go that far to make a unit stand on its own two feet LOL
- Yunli is great and all but you don't need her if you have Clara and March/Lynx. If you are still fixated, just pull her LC for Clara for the taunt
- Huo Huo have great cleanse, but CC(s) and Speed Debuff will still affect your allies. Plus we have Lingsha in 2.5 who has AoE cleanse, follow up atk, can reduce toughness, is skill point neutral and have emergency heal
- JiaoQiu is 5 stars Guinaifen at this point, he works the best with Acheron but only in Pure Fiction not really great for MoC or AS. You can use Universal Market LC on Preservation character for alternative
- Black Swan is a must if you are building DoT team. She has def shred in her kit too for Acheron
yunli is better than clara, come on
Yeah unless you like the character the only one here worth pulling is Black Swan.
@@su.7f if you built Clara you have no reason to use your jades on yunli
@@sorashizen5130 i mean, you're quite literally getting a dps that works in all modes and have all of clara's problems fixed (healing, auto-counter, many free stats, energy) while also doing double her dmg. her value is insane and id say is a must pull tbh if feixiao ends up being butchered like jiaqiou
If Jaoqiu's recent nerfs are actually just that bad then is BlackSwan just better for Acheron (E0) (and potentially Kafka in her rerun)?
I wanna know since my F2P ass can't afford multiple limited 5star per patch
Yay, Huohuo’s coming back! I mostly started the game because of her 🥰
You should go for lingsha she will be a better healer on 2.5
@@Nevaryedits
hwehwe is still the best damage potential sustain.
lingsha better in break team, but galla exist
@@Taunt69 yeh getting the charecter you like matters the most😅
@@Nevaryedits ☠☠☠
Lingsha better in break team.
But in universal team. Huo huo and luocha better
Yunli's release might become an indirect buff to clara considering the similar playstyle. That's if counter fua become part of the meta.
We've already seen it with firefly and himeko tho that was also mostly because of harmony tb and the superbreak meta.
Looks like we're not getting BS this time.
jiaoqiu is a massive victim of the nerfs.. even when he initially released he wasn't that massive of an upgrade of pela, he was good for a 5 star and could replace pela, but nowdays he's probably not that worth it to roll unless your acheron is massively struggling
yunli on the other hand has gotten buffed as of V5 and looks really good (if you can time her counters properly that is) which makes her probably one of the strongest dps'es in the game now that I think about it
imma try pulling JQ only, if i lose the rate off then i'll save my jades for another char like Acheron rerun..might as well E2 her if possible & stick with either SW/Pela
Feels like they want to make more middle of the road characters for now. Acheron, Firefly and Ruan Mei in particular were mistakes, kinda like the situation with genshins 1.0 4-stars that were so absurdly busted that they're still meta to this very day.
Waiting for feixao and lingsha
I was thinking about pulling for jade but I need black swan and huo huo. So jade has to wait.
Despite of the nerfs, I am still going to pull for Jiaoqiu. He still provides more stacks despite of the trigger limit in pf compare to using only Pela/Guinaifen/SW. Also helps that I have S1 Aventurine.
I think going hyperfast Jiaoqiu with er rope and vonwaqc will be the go-to build, which is how I will build him. The faster he is, the sooner he can get his next ult which resets the trigger limit.
its sad that he is just a slight upgrade. and a sidegrade for dot. they could have focus his kit msotly for acheron not make him sub par in one and ok in another. may the rng bless ur pulls. praying that jade comes home here
OR get e2 Acheron and make her a Speedy unit to stack faster. Your choice 😂 i myself is in the same situation as you but i would rather invest to Acheron than pull a unit can will be replaced in a few patch. Fingers crossed 5* Tingyun is going to power creep all supports.
He needs light cone to be an upgrade to pela/sw
i want Black Swan for Kafka. Im already farming all the stuff she needs.
Hope with my 50pulls to get both hwehwe and yunli
okay now we know that black swan aint in 2.4 but still can you tell whos more f2p without their lcs ?? her or jiaoqui . bc i aint pulling for lcs for none of them , keeping my savings for ratiorine's but i do consider a chance to get support for my acheron
I'm pulling Yunlis LC for my e2 Clara who already has her weapon but Yunlis seems like a really nice upgrade over Clara's LC
Hmm im thinking of either huo huo or blackswan
As someone who enjoys both huohuo and sparkle I am screwed....need to choose between one of them 😂 cauae i have neither currently on my account I have super strong dps characters like kafka, firefly, acheron and topaz already. So either huo huo or sparkle is super good for me...meta persons might say sparkle would be much better and I really like sparkle too her character but the thing is ive been waiting for huo huo rerun cause i like her too...so this is a very tough decision for me...😢😢
Huahua is tempting but the 5* Tingyun leaks is the MUST pull for me.
i need people to stop comparing every dps to firefly and acheron because if they arent better they're automatically bad to 99% of people
Yunli is a better Clara just like the video said.
The good news is, you don't need to spend any jades till an amazing 2.5...
I have to get the light cone for HuoHuo and try to resume from E2 to E6. Skipping 2.4 part 2 as I'm not much of a dot person.
Bro, advice me, whether to pull huo-huo Or not.
I want to play dot team, I am pulling lingsha for healing... So should I skip her and just get blackswan Or is there any other support I should focus on?
I don't have kafka either but will pull her too on her rerun.
I have ruan mei E0S1 but she is busy with break.
Or should I just skip dot and focus on getting new unit like feixiao??
@@soulfulhuman8724 hard to answer. "Current" meta for the enemies is Break. Lingsha is said to be a 5* version of Gallagher, so she's a required pull. DoTs are good (when the battle buff for that mode is for DoTs), but when it's not then you need defense shred or penetration, which would require Ruan Mei or E1 Black Swan.
Pull who you want. For the waifus or for a better team comp. I will say when I was tight on funds, I grinded everything I could for E2 Huo, and she has carried and saved my ass thru it all. Huo will never leave my team.
I plan on having a full Break with Firefly, Ruan Mei, Lingsha, and the fourth being interchangeable. Team 2: IPC FuA, Robin, and Huo as pure damage output.
Uid: 603499627 if you want to borrow my E6S1 Acheron.
@@iTaoRekt okay , thank you so much for replying brother.
I'll send u frnd req with name "Kiyo",
Thanks for the kindness and have a good day! ❤
@@iTaoRekt bro your uid is wrong. Can u share once more
@@soulfulhuman8724 shouldn't, it was copy/pasta straight from the game. Mine is America server, so if your's on a different region then it won't work.
Is black swan good with acheron without Kafka?
Yes. I don’t have Kafka and I always use Black Swan with Acheron and it’s pretty busted. The rest of the team are just Pela/Silver Wolf and Gallagher/Gepard/Fu Xuan.
@@jeremypaulevanthanks that helps
Yes then pick up kafka when she gets a rerun
yes she is , even sampo benefits a lot without having other 5 star nihility
Classic hsr economy, Always releasing new characters then putting old characters that synergize with new ones, No pattern on reruns, The only pattern is we are broke
Skipping them all. Waiting for a male buffy character.
im waiting for a the dommy mommy fire abundance foxian
Might be Christmas for Sunday
@@LeftyPencil he ain't buffy. Unless by buffy you mean someone who buffs.
I didn’t have enough pulls for Kafka on her rerun but I’ll get BS first
I think I may skip this patch, but I'm tempted to pull for E1 BS+LC because I love her as a character. Unless Yunli and Jiaoqiu are characters I grow to like, I'm skipping those two. And I don't need HuoHuo since I have Aven and Luocha, or Gallagher and Lynx which are both E6. So for now, I don't need any more sustains.
Yes, Yunli LC for my E2 Clara incoming ^^
As someone who don't have e6 Gui or Pela, and don't even have one copy of Pearls, and also wanted to use hypercarry Acheron in the future, Jiaoqiu gonna be my next pull
or you can just pull the LC with 75%
I think Swan might be my target for this patch. I have enough sustainer and shielders and I have a good DPS in FF .
she aint in 2.4 but that doesnt mean you need to change your plan, im having the same isuess
lol, lmao even
didn’t they just say Sparkle the one running with him? I’m not Black Swain
I don’t have kafka but BS Acheron is a pretty solid duo for me, then Gui for a little more dot oomph
They had to make jiaoqiu this bad if they want literally any dps they make in the future to be appealing. If he was even v3 strong, the only dps any player would EVER need would be acheron for meta reasons. She just does too much.
Finally Huhuo come back home.
Going for HuoHuo, i need an extra sustain ( my limited sustains are Luocha & Aventurine ).
same
My sustains are natasha and gepard😂
My sustains are huohuo and gepard
Dude , its better to save if you have luocha and aventurine.
Its waste to summon huo huo , unless you like that loli character
@@ludicolo1106 HuoHuo is really good though? Her automatic party-wide debuff cleanse with skill passive before a character takes action is something neither Luocha nor Aventurine does. She’s invaluable against DoT and CC focused enemies.
Ima save for black swan then
Black swan
I'm going to pull Black Swan's LC over Jiaoqiu now since I already have her.
Sorry baby pinkboi Jiao, but mother BlackSwan is coming home with me 😅🙏🏻
Shoot I just realise I want all 4 of them I’m cooked with about 110 pulls
Maybe I’ll just go for one yunli, wish me good luck on the 50/50 :(
For me it's just E0S1 Yunli and then just skip the rest of the Patch depending on how 2.5 Interests me. If 2.5 doesn't interest me then I may either get E1 Huohuo or E1 Blackswan depending on how my Yunli pulls go. Want both Yunli and Jade but gonna prioritize Yunli then Start saving for Jade's Rerun alongside new Characters/3.0
Should i get BS as a replacement for pela or JQ in acheron team? (i have a kafka too so BS even more value )
Black Swan can work for Acheron too, and you already have Kafka who is Black Swan’s partner in crime. Plus Black Swan can be a standalone DPS too even with just Sampo/Guinaifen. So her.
kafka, BS, ruan mei, huohuo is the "premiere DoT comp" (any support or another dot subdps like gui or sam works in place of ruan mei), so if you want that then BS is a good pick
she also works with acheron but afaik she is NOT better than Pela/SW unless E1 in which case you drop SW or Pela (think it was pela but I could be wrong)
@krymasuru can I run luocha instead of huo huo? I can't pull for her since I'm going for feixiao and black Swan
@@krymasuru ehh given the current situation it seems black swan is still not pulling up.
with an E0S1 acheron is sparkle or pela/SW better (especially pure fiction, i have 11/12 stars :(
Huohuo first part of the patch... So sad because I wanted to get eidolon for her but wanted to get E0 Black swan before that and then spend all the remaining for HuoHuo... Can't do that with this order
Hi! I just want to ask for some help here if possible. I played the game a bit in release, but I dropped it and took it again a couple of times. My characters are not very well built as of right now, so I'm trying to improve that, but it's very expensive, so I wanted to know which characters you guys think I should go for.
Last banner I got Firefly (e0), Ruan Mei (e0) and Gallagher (e6), so one team I want to make is the Firefly break comp.
The other comp I'm more interested to make is the DoT one, as I already have Kafka and I use her a lot. That's why I think Black Swan will be a must next patch. I don't really have too many gems, though, as I lost my 50/50 in Ruan Mei at 90 pity and I got her after like 70 rolls (so 160 rolls total). I literally don't know how to get more stellar jades right now.
I do not have any 5★ sustains. Natasha was my main sustain before Gallagher. I've used Fire Trailblazer more than I'd like to admit for preservation units. As for other supports (apart from Ruan Mei and H Trailblazer), I don't have a good Tingyun, but I do have an e4 Bronya and an e2 Welt (which I used to use as more of a carry with Bronya).
Which characters do you think I should go for in future banners? And which characters do you think I should build? I don't have Lynx btw.
My idea is to skip Huohuo for the upcoming fire abundance character and to try and get Black Swan, but maybe I should just steak to Gallagher for my break team and get Huohuo for my DoT team instead of the new character. I don't know if I'll be able to get enough stellar jade for both Houhuo and Black Swan, though. Maybe I should get some other support for the DoT team and replace Bronya. It's hard, because I spent a lot of resources on Bronya already
Thank you in advance (I'm a bit late to the video, so I might repost this comment somewhere else)
Hmm, that's a good question. I've got both Huohuo and Black Swan personally and they're both great units. If you love your Kafka dot team, both would be excellent additions. The question is which first.
Both have a bit of versatility to them. Huohuo is still great outside of Dot teams for energy hungry units. Plus that constant cleanse is so fun. While Swan is built for Dot teams, she's also an excellent choice for an Acheron team with her constant debuffs and defense drop on skill. Like you mentioned, there are upcoming limited sustains that would be a good choice. And for a Kafka team, you could use a Guinaifen to get a similar effect to Swan.
Genuinely, you wouldn't go wrong with either choice. My personal opinion is to pick which ever charachter you love the personality of more. Both won't get a rerun for a bit, so to avoid the regrets and fomo, I'd say pick on personality instead of kit. Watch the character trailers again and decide from there.
Personally, I love the socially anxious wooby that is Huohuo, but Swan has a ton of appeal as well. Hope this helped get your thoughts in order!
umm, should I go for e1 black swan or s1? For DOT premium😢
e1
both
@@crazync729As if I have enough jades, Im not even guaranteed 😭😭
@@edabb5321Is this true? Does her s1 not that good?
@@hiiscool9946 e1 swan > sig. her e1 is one of the best in the game. rather than her sig LC, you'd rather get e1 ruan mei or e1 kafka if u already have kafka's LC.
Guys, could you help me, please?
What do you think is better?
Jiaoqiu E2S1 + Black Swan E0S0
or
Jiaoqiu E0S1 + Black Swan E0S1?
(I don't have Kafka. I have Acheron E0S1 and Ruan E2S1)
Dot isnt rlly that important to acheron so u dont rlly need jiaoqiu e2 unless ur pulling for kafka later, imo for blackswan's e1 has more value than her lightcone supportwise cause its a free res pen for everyone rather than a selfish def shred
@@rammi3822 Thank you for your answer.^_^
I was waiting for this! NOW I CAN GET JADE FOR NOW AS DR. VERITAS RATIO ISN’T COMING YET!!
U don't have Dr ratio ?
He was free for like 3 months
@@squllguys5606Bro failed to recognize returning and new players
@@Exigty ye thats why I asked ☠️
@@squllguys5606 I do have Dr. Ratio, I’m planning on getting his LC :), missed out last time because I used all my pulls to get e6 Xueyi 😂
@@0snddiI respect that, xueyi is pretty fun if you really commit to her.
both reruns are a skip for me. I already have both Huohuo and Sparkle. I even have Sparkle's LC. And both of the new banners are skips too. Yunli is not a big enough upgrade over Argenti for me to justify pulling her. And Jiaoqiu got nerfed so hard that he isn't even worth pulling anymore even for people who have Acheron, and especially for someone like me who has Acheron at E2 and E6 Pela. It would genuinely be more beneficial for my Acheron to get her LC on her rerun instead of Jiaoqiu LMAO.
huohuo the only one im considering, though i don't actually need her since I can clear endgame. Very skippable patch for me.
Pulling yunli because why not
I want yunli because bare feet but at same time shes too young why they have to do this
is black swan rerunning with jiaoque confirmed ? I NEED HER AND KAFKA WHEN SHE COMES BACK
I only have gepard and aventurine as a sustain rn, should I pull Huohuo??
Yup she is also great with some hypercarryies that needs energy regenerating such as Dhil, argenti and you can even use her with FuA teams cuz she gives team %40 atk buff and I don't even mention Dot teams, she is literally made for it. So, yes.
if you want detailed description of her kit, there's a lot of video on yt they might help you to understand better
people yall need to wait the new programs and then concider ho to pull. stop beliving in leaks!!
wdym? there's no leak for rerun banners. You predict it by seeing previous rerun but sometimes hoyo does stuff like this, switching rerun banner
@@ZuraJurathere are leaks bruh
Going for yinlin for that fun counter gameplay!
Wrong game bro😅
IMO the new characters are kinda mid and the reruns are strong but you don't really need them either unless you like dot and since i have Loucha i am skippingthat foxian again, easy skip for me unless dome good 4* are one the banners
Tingyun is on the banner
@@ViciousKell I have her E6
Jade, Argenti & JQ.....
Also, is there any point in getting Huohuo when that new support is coming out in 2.5?
I already have aventurine and Gallagher e6, i was planning to get huohuo to complete my dot team, I ain't interested in any character in the 2.4 and possible leak said that in the 2.5 we will have feixao with bs and in the second face lingsha with dr ratio, i already have bs and ratio of course and i ain't interested in the news one too, so i will just save to get robin and acheron in theirs rerun, u guys think its doable or i shouldn't pull for huohuo to guarantee them because i already have enough sustains?
I wonder how Yunli LC would work with Clara
sadly none of the new characters interest me and i own the rerunned characters, ill probably either save for feixiao or get e1 swan
I'm contemplating if I should pull for jiaoqiu to complete my acheron team with pela and aventurine or black swan to use her with acheron and start building a dot team at the same time (double benefit). Help me out y'all
just gonna snatch Yunli's lc for Clara
I JUST GOT JADE YESTERDAY AND TURNS OUT BLACK SWAN IS RERUNNING????? NAAUUURRRRRRR 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Can u please give me advise? As new player who only have FF, himeko, welt, gepard, ratio, without any 5star sustain only have galagher E6, do i need to pull any character on the next banner? Or keep it until next patch for better banner / re run.
Gepard e6?
@@zimlendrott6623 lol
@@zimlendrott6623 ah sorry i mean galagher
I think Yunli is a great DPS to have. You have FF but if you dont have Ruan Mei she's... a bit mid. Yunli and Ratio should be able to carry you through most content. For now you should prioritize getting good sustains (HuoHuo and Lingsha should be coming soon) and then limited 5* Harmony
Yikes, you should've pulled for ruan mei before ff, I guess u can wait for huohuo or a 5 star harmony. Also you might wanna consider to getting Ratio lc on his rerun bcs it's a huge upgrade for him. I really don't know if ff is usable without rm but if she isn't good without her then u should wait for Feixiao too. For Ratio team, tingyun + pela and sustain is alr good for him. rm just had a rerun so yeah u need to wait for another dps or harmony units.
was going for Yunli but i need Black Swan for my Kafka
Kinda want e1 blackswan but at the same time curious bout jq performance in dotcheron teamcomp like can he replace or at least be a side grade of ruan mei
Big miss in terms of new characters, especially when looking at the characters for the patch after.
I want yunli E0S1 and Huohuo with 100 pulls and 40 pity and no guarantees
It's gonna be a hard patch
Full skip. It's either silwerwolf of Acheron lightcone that will make me pull at this point.
I'm struggling in Pure fiction so I was about to get jade. But I think e1 Black swan might be more worth it.
Jade is more worth, you can use jade+herta on one part of pure fiction, and then some kind of black swan dot team in the other part (dot teams are still the highest performing teams in pf), if you have Kafka she's really good with black swan
@kacper0563 Yes, I have kafka. But the thing is, I already have e0s1 black swan, and I thought this could be more flexible. But I guess Jade seems like the best Pure fiction unit right now, so I see why she could be better to use a guarantee for.
@@wantu7816 yeah, jade will likely also be good with any future erudition characters so there's also that
Can that gameplay stop attacking their Jingliu enhanced ultimate on Argenti's SHIELD? IM IRRITATED.
Okay so should i bother getting him E0S0? I have E0S1 Acheron and a Kafka/Swan team. It would definitely make pf less of a bother if i put the herta lc on him. But I'm not sure if its worth it over other characters (e1 swan or e1 Lingsha for example)
Youd be better off pulling e1 swan if you're looking to improve your dot team. Pull jiaoqu if you want to improve your e0 acheron. But honestly, acheron is already strong enough.
i'm pulling for swan i need her to complete my dot team (i have kafka, ruan mei, and huohuo who i'm currently rebuilding) and jiaoqiu on my alt bc i have acheron there and i want an upgrade bc i don't like having to wait for pela's ult to apply a single crimson knot stack jiaoqiu is the upgrade i need since he debuffs enemies in more ways than 1 i won't go for him on main tho since like i said i have ruan mei
i dont care that huohuo isnt needed on my account. i friggin love her too cute to not pull
i absolutely NEED black swan to complete my DOT set up, its not even funny
Please get that chesssss😭
nooooo, i'm at 50/50 with 30 pity and less than 20 pulls but i need Huohuo and BS, why this game banners hate me so much?
E1 bs more worth than jiaoqiu😂
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I need a pass now :)))))
not sure if ill pull for yunli but want to try a team of Clara, yunli, robin and aventurine
In a DoT team who is more likely to get replaced with another unit in the future?? Kafka or Black Swan?
Kafka is literally the enabler of DoT teams so black Swan ofc
@@B_Kaizo thank u sm, Idk anything about DoT comp since I only play FUA and Break and I was thinking about getting BS bc I thought she was the important one in the comp
@@dxnqwi5522I mean anything could happen, they could make a new unit that does the exact same thing like Kafka but better, though BS seems easier to be replaced. That won't happen now bcs there r no news of new DOT units plus it's break/fua era.
@@dxnqwi5522Also I play DOT, I don't really recommend you to pull BS without kafka and it's also clunky to play with them at e0s0 (at least e1 BS), don't get me wrong it's still usable but u really need good relics for that or else it'll take like 6 cycles to clear moc.
@@yoruurinnIf they made Kafka 2.0, you'd still want to run both of them together because they'd heavily amplify each others' dmg, likely with BS, cutting out RM or Robin from the team.
With 3 Kafkas you might consider cutting the original one out from the team, but it is possible and even more likely that you'd give the boot to BS instead.
If you have 4 Kafkas, the OG one will be the one to go unless the 4 of them can 0 cycle all content.
At 5 she is definitely gone: my point being that Kafka will be valuable for a LOOOONG time
don't have Kafka but I might get Black swan for my Acheron since my current Acheron team is Acheron + Aventurine + lvl. 55 Sampo and Guinaifen 💀 (man I seriously need an upgrade for my Acheron team)
You can try pela + guin + aven (with trend but that lc is only good for acheron teams and not really needed) unless you're using pela for Ratio or other teams.
@@yoruurinn well my pela is only e1 + I don't have the resolution lc for her :(
@@lobster_on_internetshe is absolutely fine at e0, but yeah.. U need at least s4 resolution 💀
if you are a dot dps jiaoqui(E0S1) is still not worth it your better off using sampo or guinaifen thats how bad jiaoqui is for dot(imo)
Bruh with feixiao, I don't know anymore🙁
I will get black swan cuz i want kafka anyways so easiest decision for me
Does Yunli Need her sig LC for her to be good or is she good with f2p LC?
She could do well with Fall of an Aeon like most destruction characters
Do keep in mind though her LC gives the wearer 500% taunt value which means she's more likely to get hit, and getting hit restores her energy by a significant amount. Though you can use lynx as a sustain if you really don't wanna pull for her lc.
@@naufaladitya9453 Between Lynx and March she should be getting hit very often, that is unless you have Tingyun in the team.
Should i pull for black swan without having kafka