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  • Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
  • Comparing a 44" CID low flow mulcher attachment to a Extreme implements XBC-7 low flow brush mower; installed on a Takeuchi TL12 track loader.
    Link to mulcher: www.skidsteers...

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  • @Ferms12
    @Ferms12 3 роки тому +294

    “Nah if I gotta tell you how to do it, you can’t do it safely” lol. Always dropping wisdom Andrew

    • @JaseC80
      @JaseC80 3 роки тому +2

      Like someone disarming a bomb….I can do it safely if I guess which wire to cut 🤔

    • @Ali.g.97
      @Ali.g.97 3 роки тому +1

      Where was that said at?

    • @hernanai
      @hernanai 3 роки тому +3

      @@Ali.g.97 24:00 minute mark

    • @glennohlsson8119
      @glennohlsson8119 3 роки тому +7

      Yeah and Andrew is saying that while tightropewalking on top of the machine lmao

    • @LightIySaltedPeanuts
      @LightIySaltedPeanuts 3 роки тому +3

      @@glennohlsson8119 He trusts himself, that can be a flaw but he is quite experienced and knows what he is doing

  • @gheice_modelism
    @gheice_modelism 3 роки тому +76

    25000 more and you’ll reach a million subscribers… Amazing!!!

    • @GardenGuy1942
      @GardenGuy1942 3 роки тому +2

      Should I go visit him to congratulate him?

    • @codywalters8234
      @codywalters8234 3 роки тому +3

      @@GardenGuy1942 whats wrong with you?

    • @gheice_modelism
      @gheice_modelism 3 роки тому

      @@GardenGuy1942 yeah. Also go visit your therapist!

    • @GardenGuy1942
      @GardenGuy1942 3 роки тому

      @@gheice_modelism I don’t have one. I don’t think I should go now. Many people saying not to.

  • @terryrose6208
    @terryrose6208 2 роки тому +5

    I admire your tenacity and your abilities. And I don't know your medical history, but take it from a guy that has done too much heavy lifting over a lifetime, you will eventually wear those shoulders out and will probably need surgery. I've had three and will probably have another one by winter time. It's no picnic but it allows me to keep on doing what I love most. I work alone ninety nine percent of the time. I use some heavy equipment and chainsaws quite often. I shouldn't be doing it at my age (71) but when my time comes they will probably have to drag me off a job, lol. You do amazing work. Stay safe out there.

  • @CranialAccess
    @CranialAccess 3 роки тому +125

    My wife of 44 years have been watching for many years, we have T-shirts, mugs, and a piece of excavator track autographed by Andrew and Levi, we still look forward to every video! Skid Steer Solutions knows a winner when they see one!

    • @327JohnnySS
      @327JohnnySS 3 роки тому +15

      I remember that video, it was when he hit a goal in membership. That was years ago. I think I found A/C channel when he had 11k. His friend Jesse Muller that is seen in many of his videos also has a great channel of doing his own stuff. No chainsaw stereo installs thow. RIP inspector Levi.👍

    • @ovadyarachman7243
      @ovadyarachman7243 3 роки тому +7

      rip levi

    • @CranialAccess
      @CranialAccess 3 роки тому +2

      @@327JohnnySS yes watching Jesse from his start, I enjoy his in depth descriptions of his repairs. As a New Yorker who once lived down near Woodstock and a brother who lived near Coxsackie it’s fun trying to figure out where Jesse and Andrew are working!

    • @327JohnnySS
      @327JohnnySS 3 роки тому +1

      @@CranialAccess, There is a bunch of channels from that neck of woods that you have mentioned. Yet if you are interested in automotive hairballs that the dealerships and local shops give up on check out South main auto. If you are also interested water check out post 10. Have a great weekend.

    • @327JohnnySS
      @327JohnnySS 3 роки тому +1

      @@CranialAccess, Jesse's channel is amazing. When he did the transmission tear down on the dump truck it was amazing. Even his dad will comment once and a while as he proud of him.

  • @Drakey_Fenix
    @Drakey_Fenix 3 роки тому +75

    I'm glad you finally decided to install a window/door to protect yourself from getting hit by stuff

  • @PatrolOfficer161
    @PatrolOfficer161 Рік тому +3

    Laci is a real LADY. Great to see her lounging around in her senior years.

  • @unclerob617
    @unclerob617 3 роки тому +8

    I've been a Hoser for my entire career of 43 years... now retired. So I feel qualified to tell you to use a backup wrench when tightening the hydraulic hoses. You torqued those hoses pretty severely which will shorten their lifespan.
    I'm a Total Huge Fan so it kills me to correct you on anything!! Give it hell my friend!
    Watch Upstate Brush Control videos to see a truly BA attachment for knocking down trees and brush and turning it into mulch.

    • @ClinttheGreat
      @ClinttheGreat 3 роки тому +3

      @Rob Crow if you’ve been watching for a while you’ll realize he’s not much for torque spec’s.

    • @Jehty_
      @Jehty_ 3 роки тому +1

      That's a weird thing to say.
      Shouldn't you want to correct him because you are a huge fan?
      Correcting him makes him and everyone else smarter.
      You should strive to help/correct people you like.

    • @327JohnnySS
      @327JohnnySS 3 роки тому

      @Rob Crow, I noticed that also. When ever removing or installing a hydraulic hose or fittings it's a two wrench job. Andrew caught the leak quickly as you could see it start spray the camera of Camarata.

    • @mikescott6647
      @mikescott6647 3 роки тому

      @rob crow can you explain what you mean in further detail? I'm interested

    • @327JohnnySS
      @327JohnnySS 3 роки тому +1

      @@ClinttheGreat, I have always used the torque method of tightening on 1 half of turn before you hear Snap. Its a good rule of thumb.

  • @stephane.notstephanie.pron1418
    @stephane.notstephanie.pron1418 3 роки тому +78

    It’s weird how excited I get when I see a new video from you. Love you, man!

  • @dezman56ford
    @dezman56ford 3 роки тому +33

    Bro, I could watch you for hrs, you literally leveled a darn forest, and i'm seriously jealous of the equipment you've acquired for yourself, well done dude, and good job with the scrub.

  • @PhilKawasaki
    @PhilKawasaki 3 роки тому +27

    Actually love a video on UA-cam that gets straight into it, no bullsh#t intro to endure

  • @bixou69
    @bixou69 3 роки тому +32

    Andrew is one of the few UA-camrs i wish was sponsored.
    If only some brands were brave enough to let him test some products I would buy them in a blink.

    • @delcoshootingsupply
      @delcoshootingsupply 3 роки тому +10

      I like that Andrew's opinions can't be bought with sponsorships.

    • @tihomirkolarek
      @tihomirkolarek 3 роки тому +1

      I wish Dodge or RAM would put one of 2500's for Andrew to test... Long term... 😀

    • @thomasingramfarms230
      @thomasingramfarms230 3 роки тому +3

      @@tihomirkolarek I’ve been watching Andrew for years never seen him drive anything other than a dodge for a pickup truck and he’s been hell on them if that’s not a testament I don’t know what is lol

    • @tihomirkolarek
      @tihomirkolarek 3 роки тому +2

      @@thomasingramfarms230 i ment brand New pick up... But basic exuiped, so we can sew how to install 2 din radio inside...that was shocking but fun as hell 😀😀😀

    • @thomasingramfarms230
      @thomasingramfarms230 3 роки тому +2

      @@tihomirkolarek oh no doubt I’m not arguing that point at all I’m in total agreement 😂

  • @jaredchance244
    @jaredchance244 3 роки тому +14

    From the time I started watching the video he had me hooked the camera angles are exquisite and I love how he seen something leaking unscrewed it and got down to the bottom of it! Superb job

  • @dalleth
    @dalleth 3 роки тому +432

    Your goat question: Short answer is almost. They will strip everything to dirt that they can reach BUT won't eat things with bark. Young 1" trees is just about the limit. What you end up with is a very weird dystopian landscape of dirt, stripped trees to about 6' in the air. It really a weird things to see. But if you just have is grass, brush and very young trees, all that's left after they are done are piles of poo.

    • @CallOfDutyHeadShot69
      @CallOfDutyHeadShot69 3 роки тому +57

      Before I saw the video all the way through, I read this comment and was really curious what greatest of all time question Andrew asked. Didn’t realize it was literally a question about goats.

    • @401ak5
      @401ak5 3 роки тому +55

      Yes to all of this, and one thing that seemed to have been forgotten over time, cloven hooved animals do something to the earth, not sure we quite have a grasp on it, scientifically, but when you run them on the land, especially ruminants, the natural grasses wil come back. I've heard dozens of testimonials about how ancient grasses come back, in areas where it's been gone 300-400 years. The only way to really explain it is that the seeds lay dormant, indefinitely, and are just waiting for the hooves, sun, and poop to activate them to sprout.

    • @hazelumbrella9890
      @hazelumbrella9890 3 роки тому +6

      @@CallOfDutyHeadShot69 same lol

    • @tiredoldmechanic1791
      @tiredoldmechanic1791 3 роки тому +14

      Pigs are also great at clearing land and they will kill trees of almost any size.

    • @Redwingster
      @Redwingster 3 роки тому +12

      @@401ak5 Dammit, now I won't be able to relax until I research this phenomenon.

  • @Hcook97
    @Hcook97 3 роки тому +45

    I've been waiting for you to get one of those mulchers. Seems like an adequate amount of destruction for someone like yourself.

  • @GameFunFam
    @GameFunFam 3 роки тому +5

    I laughed when you said goats were an appealing idea. They do eat just about any weed or grass, and even little trees. They are used around us for that reason. Keep up the great vids!

  • @cainfrey1748
    @cainfrey1748 3 роки тому +55

    The is the first video I've seen in a few years Andrew showed any frustration. Can't say i would have been any more patient.

    • @andrewalexander9492
      @andrewalexander9492 3 роки тому +12

      @Howdare Yuu " These tools are made to be installed on heavy duty tractors or CAT heavy equipment, not stupid little useless skid steers. " Hmmm, well he got it from a dealer named "Skid Steer Solutions" whcih refers to it as a "Skid Steer Forestry Disc Mulcher Attachment" and the manufacturer's website says: " We specialize in manufacturing high quality, dependable skid steer attachments, tractor loader attachments as well as specialty skid steer attachments. " But yeah, you're probably right, it's probably not intended to be installed on a skid steer.

    • @MrTheBigNoze
      @MrTheBigNoze 3 роки тому +2

      @Howdare Yuu If you click on the link to the mulcher in the description, it was intended for use on low-flow machines. Now, I wouldn't expect it to mulch up an 8" tree in one go but it was clearly intended for skid steer use

    • @SkidSteerSolutions
      @SkidSteerSolutions 3 роки тому

      @Howdare Yuu Check out this forestry skid steer running the larger version of Andrew's mulcher. It ain't light duty! ua-cam.com/video/9OzwHc-ePg8/v-deo.html

  • @fjrdriver8924
    @fjrdriver8924 3 роки тому +8

    ... When Andrew first pulled in to the job sight I thought he was going to mow the old barn down . LOL ... I guess the land owner didn't need any fire wood just mulch. Nice video.

    • @verteup
      @verteup 3 роки тому

      There's nothing in there worth cutting for firewood. Catalpa is useless for firewood.

    • @fjrdriver8924
      @fjrdriver8924 3 роки тому

      @@verteup... Thanks for the reply but my comment was made in jest.

  • @cooperbybee4308
    @cooperbybee4308 3 роки тому +1

    Once when I was 14 my friend and I ran over fence in my 57 international. It wound the front right hub and drive line up with wire. We then thought that we could put it in reverse and gun it to unwind it...we spent two weeks after school clipping wire off all four hubs and the drive line was like a spool of thread. I'd forgotten about that until you pulled the blades off the brush mower. Thanks for the memories

  • @this_is_stupid-x3b
    @this_is_stupid-x3b 3 роки тому +17

    Having my favorite beer and a great homemade meal watching Camarata.

  • @rudymorgan9780
    @rudymorgan9780 3 роки тому +138

    That is impressive for a low flow mulcher. He definitely needs a 100gpm high flow machine. There is no stopping those beast.

    • @techtastisch7569
      @techtastisch7569 3 роки тому +13

      Definitely NOT a good idea, since the moulcher is only meant for 30gpm. Pushing 100 trough it will cause it to overspeed and maybe even trow a teeth or something. Plus that wouldn't even solve the problem, since the motor doesn't produce enough tork. What he could have done is get the bigger motor with 150cc instead of 100. Thought that will decrease the maximum speed, it will also increase the maximum torque.

    • @chrishayes5755
      @chrishayes5755 3 роки тому

      damn I was super impressed. looked very effective as is IMO.

    • @AlwayzPr0
      @AlwayzPr0 3 роки тому +14

      the skid steer solutions video shows the 60gpm version and it destroys trees. I think he needs a high flow kit for the tl12 and the high flow mulcher.

    • @largebuny3960
      @largebuny3960 3 роки тому

      I might not lose any limbs.@@techtastisch7569 This is probably the max for the average operator. Andrew would likely be safe/comfortable with more power but liability is probably the limiting factor. I could tear up 1/2 of hell with this thing and only lose a songle limb.

    • @techtastisch7569
      @techtastisch7569 3 роки тому

      @@largebuny3960 That is not an issue for sure, since there are bigger motor options available. Actually Andrew got the smallest one

  • @jedmallen
    @jedmallen 3 роки тому

    I just watched Andrew mow down a large tract of overgrown land. It was mindless. My blood pressure went down. I was at peace. Satisfaction. I can imagine the smell of cut grass and saplings. Sipping my afternoon coffee. Kids in their rooms. Inner peace.

  • @wlgt3257
    @wlgt3257 3 роки тому +172

    "Me having to tell you which one, is not doing it safely" You should put that on a shirt Mr Camarata LoL!

    • @deekay1132
      @deekay1132 3 роки тому +5

      came here to say the same thing

  • @smasica
    @smasica 3 роки тому +64

    After he got to the job site, who else thought he was going to say, "Okay, let's mulch this barn."?

  • @sisco_rl7160
    @sisco_rl7160 3 роки тому +57

    I have watched this multiple times now. Such a good video. It’s satisfying to watch.
    Andrew should look into a high flow conversion for his TL12 and get a severe duty high flow brush cutter…

    • @AndrewCamarata
      @AndrewCamarata  2 роки тому +20

      I did look into a conversion, they said it’s not possible just get a machine that is high flow

    • @ronaldhay1470
      @ronaldhay1470 2 роки тому +2

      @@AndrewCamarata I have the mulcher now I am looking at the same machine you have. Takeuchi TL12V-2 advertised flow rates are 88lts per min the Hi Flow 153lts min. Are they the same as your machine.

    • @Dede-dw4oj
      @Dede-dw4oj 3 місяці тому

      @@AndrewCamarata look at the drum mulcher for skidsteer its by far way better than this one it does the the machines u have in one

  • @spinningchurro
    @spinningchurro 3 роки тому +337

    18:44 Literally the only time I’ve ever seen Andrew show anger.

    • @1AloneX2
      @1AloneX2 3 роки тому +5

      good catch!

    • @NighteeeeeY
      @NighteeeeeY 3 роки тому +11

      i thought the exact same thing ^^

    • @Eric06410
      @Eric06410 3 роки тому +34

      Must not have watched the bulldozer starter replacement episode.

    • @lostintime8651
      @lostintime8651 3 роки тому +9

      He edits that out.

    • @johneden7975
      @johneden7975 3 роки тому +39

      That wasn’t anger. That was frustration. When you’ve got that many moving parts in your life. Sometimes it’s frustrating. The fact that he didn’t edit it out is what I thought was interesting. Because at the end he then offered up a juxtaposition. This guy is one talented individual!

  • @chuckjames1943
    @chuckjames1943 3 роки тому +6

    Fence wire, the bane of all rotary mowers. Good thing AC just happened to have his 1" impact wrench with him.
    I think the mulcher would benefit from having more cutters on the bottom so when you came down on a tree it would cut for the entire radius of the wheel.
    Andrew, you really did improve your technique as you got the hang of using the new mulcher.
    Great video.

    • @timmcdaniel3515
      @timmcdaniel3515 3 роки тому

      That is a nice brush cutter - handles much more material than a rear mount PTO style for tractors. Definitely keep the wire cleaned out. Once it gets around the hub it will eventually take the seal out and then you lose the hydraulic motor. Keep up the great videos.

  • @thinkfirst6431
    @thinkfirst6431 3 роки тому +172

    There are wrench flats on those hydraulic hoses so that you can hold the hose so that you do not twist it when you are tightening the fittings. Your hoses will last longer if there is no twisting tension in them when you are using them under pressure.

    • @mk-jf1ux
      @mk-jf1ux 3 роки тому +13

      if ya have to tell him hes not safe

    • @wannabejeeper
      @wannabejeeper 3 роки тому +21

      @@mk-jf1ux You were told at some point. How else would anyone learn?

    • @snowismas
      @snowismas 2 роки тому +3

      @@wannabejeeper missed the joke.

    • @snowismas
      @snowismas 2 роки тому +1

      @@wannabejeeper 23:58

    • @michaelvarble4392
      @michaelvarble4392 2 роки тому

      He should have twisted the hoses to the left to take off the sideways pressure

  • @evan_ack
    @evan_ack 3 роки тому +93

    Best channel on UA-cam, hands down.

  • @Jtmcguire1
    @Jtmcguire1 3 роки тому +22

    Those machines are incredible! It’s so satisfying watching them just rip through everything in their path. Keep up the great work and videos Andrew!

    • @chrishayes5755
      @chrishayes5755 3 роки тому +1

      yea man I was surprised how well it can clear! i need to get one such a cool machine.

  • @TKCL
    @TKCL 2 роки тому

    A high flow machine would be the ticket here... I can see one in Andrew's future. It's so satisfying to watch an overgrown area get shredded.

  • @Grayson203
    @Grayson203 3 роки тому +11

    Glad to see you got a door for the Takeuchi. Hope all is well with you andrew!

  • @mattanderson6781
    @mattanderson6781 3 роки тому +261

    When he went to the worksite, first thing he shows is that old barn. I thought, oh no, they gave up on the barn and Andrew has to mulch it. Haha.

    • @lwilton
      @lwilton 3 роки тому +3

      That was a separate video about a year ago.

    • @ljtlove4519
      @ljtlove4519 3 роки тому +6

      That's exactly what I thought! Haha

    • @misfiresandflattires6874
      @misfiresandflattires6874 3 роки тому +1

      @@lwilton 3 months ago.

    • @FNGstationtwentyeigh
      @FNGstationtwentyeigh 3 роки тому +1

      Watching vids on you tube of upstate brush control and they use fecom chippers. Seems like a better fit for your needs Andrew in my opinion..

    • @shermananderson700
      @shermananderson700 3 роки тому +1

      I had the same thought as they were unloading.

  • @RyeOnHam
    @RyeOnHam 3 роки тому +2

    We use Goats in the south to clear Kudzu and other small brush. There are a FEW things they don't eat, but they go after all the leaves. Pin them in where it is literally impassable and they'll much everything green they can reach. You'll still have to clear the woody vines and you can choose what trees you save at that point. Lots of stuff down here can be burned, though. Clears the plants that can't hack it and leaves only the Longleaf pines.

  • @specialks1953
    @specialks1953 3 роки тому +10

    I am Amazed at the drive you have. I appreciate how you tackle what ever needs to be done like the barbed wire job. Brilliant that you have the tools for the jobs you tackle. I hope you can keep up with yourself!! Prayers for that. - - Thanks for your videos!

  • @jonastio
    @jonastio 3 роки тому +192

    "Can you do it safely?" says the guy that uses chainsaws to install car radios.

    • @deeznuts2541
      @deeznuts2541 3 роки тому +5

      😂😂😂

    • @jimduey8218
      @jimduey8218 3 роки тому +4

      If I gotta tell ya...it's not safely.

    • @O5FS
      @O5FS 3 роки тому

      Link to the chainsaw radio install?

    • @O5FS
      @O5FS 3 роки тому

      Nvm found it lmao ua-cam.com/video/PClVezOduFk/v-deo.html 2:03

    • @1985cjjeeper
      @1985cjjeeper 3 роки тому +4

      Not understanding this. What's unsafe about using a chainsaw to install a car radio? Seems totally normal.

  • @seaknightvirchow8131
    @seaknightvirchow8131 3 роки тому +110

    “Ah naw, if I gotta tell ya which one, its not safely”. Made me laugh because I thought the very same as soon as he asked which one.

  • @garrettp377
    @garrettp377 3 роки тому +252

    "It's too underpowered!" meanwhile im sitting here with my jaw on the ground watching it suck in 6" pine trees in half a second

    • @cancermonkey7334
      @cancermonkey7334 3 роки тому +23

      I thought it was odd that he blamed the power issue on the mulcher. The skid steer provided all the power. The mulcher is just an attachment being driven by the skid steer. His bull in a China shop approach gave way to a more finessed approach and he seemed to figure out what it could handle.

    • @jacobcuntington2540
      @jacobcuntington2540 3 роки тому +18

      Nahh its a piece of crap for 18k

    • @grejsancoprative
      @grejsancoprative 3 роки тому +20

      @@cancermonkey7334 yes, the machine provide the power; but if the motor on the moulcher only can cycle lets say 18 psi before the overflow valve opens, then that's what you're gonna get even if the pump can push 24 psi through a system.

    • @ramboman9214
      @ramboman9214 3 роки тому +9

      Machine ain’t a high flow either

    • @atubebuff
      @atubebuff 3 роки тому +12

      That thing could benefit from an RPM Gauge on top of it to give you a heads-up.

  • @danielebrparish4271
    @danielebrparish4271 3 роки тому +7

    I love that you have hearing protection. Leather gloves are great for handling barbed wire and rusty sheet metal. I have a plastic lidded box for my PPE. I keep my wide brim hat with the neck cloth, a set of sweat bands (that you probably don't need) my ear protection, safety goggles and work gloves. All my PPE is all together all the time and I put it in what ever I am driving that day.

  • @Half-Cocked
    @Half-Cocked 3 роки тому

    I'm a tow truck operator by trade. I like motorcycles and audio. I have no interest in property maintenance or construction. Yet I can watch hours of these videos. Keep up the great work Andrew.

  • @frankmillett7603
    @frankmillett7603 3 роки тому +6

    Great video Andrew. Glad to see in action again. Your videos are far and few between this year. The demonstration of the difference between the two mulching options was great.

  • @revnkevn23
    @revnkevn23 3 роки тому +4

    Good to see this property again. I think it is awesome that the property owner is rebuilding the old barn, instead of just taking it down and building new.

    • @dorothyallen3614
      @dorothyallen3614 3 роки тому

      He said at the revisit to see the barn completed, that they were selling the place!

  • @southcoastbrushcontrol9048
    @southcoastbrushcontrol9048 3 роки тому +19

    I really wanted one of those mulching attachments until I saw this video. Thank you for showing the problems you had and not glossing over them. That’s what people need to see when they are looking at a new machine

    • @SWEETSIDER
      @SWEETSIDER 3 роки тому +24

      they work awesome with a machine that they're designed to be put on. run underpowered hydraulic supply and your going to get an underpowered attachment...

    • @cjamonwilliams
      @cjamonwilliams 2 роки тому +1

      @@SWEETSIDER yeah...I don't think that Takeuchi is high flow ..my disc mulcher runs at 40gpm and never bogs down like that ..I only rent machines cuz it's tax deductible and zero maintenance for me but I bought the mulcher head from diamond

  • @thefrub
    @thefrub 3 роки тому +132

    23:45 "If I gotta tell you, then it's not safe" Very smart man. Do not let someone in khaki shorts volunteer to operate heavy equipment that you're standing on.

    • @josephking6515
      @josephking6515 3 роки тому +5

      That should be on a t-shirt. 👍

    • @tycobb8621
      @tycobb8621 3 роки тому +3

      Referring to the original poster, the Old Testament, in which the book of Numbers is found, is precisely that: the Old Testament. In other words the old Law. Jesus said “behold I have made all things new, how do you not see it? Remember not the former things, nor consider the things of old” Isaiah 43:18-19. He was speaking about the old law in books like Numbers. Jesus did away with those things. That verse is not an indictment of God like you think it is. It merely points out how little you know about the subject.

    • @ChipGarlock
      @ChipGarlock 3 роки тому +4

      The same guy that just crashed your drone no less. Gave him one job, don't crash the drone!

    • @AequitasSaints
      @AequitasSaints 3 роки тому +8

      As a khaki short wearing heavy machine operator... I am offended. Lol. Don't judge a book by the cover!

    • @Watchyn_Yarwood
      @Watchyn_Yarwood 3 роки тому +4

      @@tycobb8621 People have been taking from and adding to God's word to suit their own desires since the beginning and will do so until the end. Then "that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven, and of those on earth, and of those under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." Philippians 2:10-11

  • @King_Squid
    @King_Squid 3 роки тому +6

    "if I have to tell you which one, then you cant do it safely" The difference having that competence makes would keep many new workers much safer.

  • @ianpickersgill3211
    @ianpickersgill3211 3 роки тому

    Andrew I don't know what you got paid for that job, but you deserved every dollar.

  • @tomlewis8086
    @tomlewis8086 3 роки тому +6

    Andrew thanks for an entertaining evening! Always fascinating to see what adventure you are going to take us on.

  • @Niko-iq8bc
    @Niko-iq8bc 3 роки тому +13

    I love how the door on the skid steer slides up instead of out because sometimes when you don’t need it it’s in your way when it swings out

  • @davepeters5485
    @davepeters5485 3 роки тому

    You made that acreage a desert. OUTSTANDING!! Looks GREAT!! That cutter is a BEAST!!

  • @JohnDLeo-rg8tc
    @JohnDLeo-rg8tc 3 роки тому +5

    Hey Andrew, i just stumbled onto your channel recently and i'm glad that i found you. I used to be alot like you a few years ago, however doing everything on my own and the incredibly hard work isn't what stopped my game. I had just started a new family and i loved working like a mad man to make sure they wanted for nothing. For what ever reason though, my now ex wife offereded me zero support or appreciation. After a while i began to lose my reason for being or doing anything. What happened next is not anything that i can share at this time. I am so pleased to have found Andrew just watching the excellent work make my spirits soar. thank you and Peace from Canada

    • @jameszeschke2182
      @jameszeschke2182 3 роки тому +1

      Hey John D Leo know what you mean, nearly 60 years old,been there done that no real appreciation, have a laugh watch ave “Summary of every self help book ever”, you’ll laugh.

  • @Kiwi-pp7rg
    @Kiwi-pp7rg 3 роки тому +21

    The momentum of that heavy cutting wheel certainly makes it extremely effective, probably the best I've seen if the momentum can be maintained

  • @michaelzimmerman8959
    @michaelzimmerman8959 3 роки тому +1

    I've trimmed trees for the power company since 1986, and I've seen different tree grinders, but not the one with the disc grinder like you've got. That's pretty awesome, and good job.

  • @dirkkorpershoek92
    @dirkkorpershoek92 3 роки тому +64

    You know it’s gonna be a good day when Andrew uploads a new video😁👍

  • @JimPeachley
    @JimPeachley 3 роки тому +128

    Suggestion: Whenever the load is overpowering your equipment, cut back the load. With thick, thick brush, take a slow perimeter cut around the field and then take half-width swaths. Adjusted properly, you'll find yourself going almost full speed. The old saying goes, "How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time." If your equipment is always gagging, feed it smaller bites.

    • @cobralyoner
      @cobralyoner 3 роки тому +9

      damn your tipps are unbelievable

    • @orppranator5230
      @orppranator5230 3 роки тому +21

      Or, hear me out, use the equipment with a machine that can supply the proper amount of hydraulic fluid flow.

    • @105crusierguy
      @105crusierguy 3 роки тому +2

      @@orppranator5230 idk man i feel like he should of gone abit slower

    • @JimPeachley
      @JimPeachley 3 роки тому +7

      @@orppranator5230 When have we ever known Andrew to not make do with what he has? That's what makes him him.

    • @orppranator5230
      @orppranator5230 3 роки тому +1

      JimPeachley true

  • @000PTS
    @000PTS 2 роки тому +3

    Good to see old footage of Levi again, we really miss that guy........

  • @DoRC
    @DoRC 3 роки тому +7

    "if I got to tell you which one that's not safely". Words to live by!

  • @craigscheel3323
    @craigscheel3323 3 роки тому +152

    Definitely need a high flow to run that mulcher without losing your patience

    • @thomaspepper2201
      @thomaspepper2201 3 роки тому +6

      That or more HP

    • @DejvmanXsindicate
      @DejvmanXsindicate 3 роки тому +8

      @@thomaspepper2201 TL12 has 110hp which is planty, he needs a highflow TL12 to make that work.

  • @snoxpro
    @snoxpro 2 роки тому +5

    That is a ton of work for 2 days! Awesome job! We have a diamond brand 6’ high flow on a 120 asv forestry tracked loader and it’s amazing, there is certainly a learning curve to running it but once you get the hang of it it’s irreplaceable, great video :)

    • @AndrewCamarata
      @AndrewCamarata  2 роки тому +3

      Based on the video, do you think your high flow has much more power? I am considering upgrading, but its expensive and I want to make sure its worth it.

    • @snoxpro
      @snoxpro 2 роки тому +5

      Ya I would say a lot more power, I think they advertise that it will mulch up to 6” and cut trees up to 16” the only trouble I have is with birch because it’s super stringy wood, but like a 6” pine it would mulch it through the top so fast it would snap the top of the tree off before it pulled the whole thing through, they are expensive it may be worth renting one for a day or 2 to see how u like it, our power company uses the drum style to clear power lines with and it seems to work well also but I don’t have hands on experience with that style.

    • @Unknown-pc9yq
      @Unknown-pc9yq Рік тому +3

      ASV and forestry mulcher is an whole different animal. It would smoke this thing in the video.

  • @ScarletKnightmare
    @ScarletKnightmare 3 роки тому +289

    18:44 in 3 years I haven't seen Andrew lose his cool. That mulcher must be mighty frustrating.

    • @Wacksmacked8898
      @Wacksmacked8898 3 роки тому +9

      when was the first time he lost his cool?

    • @sicasni
      @sicasni 3 роки тому +2

      lol

    • @meteyusuf1502
      @meteyusuf1502 3 роки тому +28

      @@Wacksmacked8898 Probably never! I think he said 3 years because he has been watching for that long? idk. But legit I thought the same thing when Andrew got mad.

    • @ScarletKnightmare
      @ScarletKnightmare 3 роки тому +44

      @@meteyusuf1502 that's correct. I've watched for 3 years as Andrew has had all kinds of things go wrong but he's never been visibly frustrated. Remember when his ram Cummins rolled down the hill and he just watched it, and said "...well that's frustrating" 🤣🤣🤣

    • @custombike3136
      @custombike3136 3 роки тому +2

      YES !

  • @E69apeTheMatrix420
    @E69apeTheMatrix420 3 роки тому +35

    Oh yea a 45 minute special and finally Andrew has some safety glass on that tree mincing machine!

  • @bobwebber8521
    @bobwebber8521 2 роки тому

    On all the type of jobs that you guys do , wire must be the bane of your lives. Thanks.

  • @ThePostApocalypticInventor
    @ThePostApocalypticInventor 3 роки тому +122

    I always love the look of a dog lying flat on the floor like that! It can be hard concrete and he/she doesn't even care. Could as well be a super comfy carpet or blanket.

    • @davidanalyst671
      @davidanalyst671 3 роки тому +8

      prolly cold too

    • @laprepper
      @laprepper 3 роки тому +11

      Dogs don't sweat so aside from panting and laying in the shade or on something cool they have no way to cool themselves down

    • @nitrofish1974
      @nitrofish1974 3 роки тому +2

      I think a water sprinkler is in order

    • @MrGoesBoom
      @MrGoesBoom 3 роки тому +2

      considering the heat we've been getting in New England ( well New Hampshire anyway, pretty sure the rest of the area as well ) I don't blame the poor pooch...the temps are high and the humidity is god awful...supposed to be that way till next week. Then again I don't know when this was filmed so might just be Cody being bored and enjoying the nice cool concrete

    • @NiteCrawlerNYC
      @NiteCrawlerNYC 3 роки тому +4

      The brush mower is king, but that mulcher is a Beast. Didn't realize where u were till the barn was shown, like oh yeah, I remember that job, lol. Lastly, good to know the drone was still working. Awesome video Andrew, and thx again for sharing!!!

  • @FordRangerGuy2011
    @FordRangerGuy2011 3 роки тому +156

    for a second when he was driving toward that old barn with the mulcher I thought he was going to try to mulch the barn lol 😆 😆

    • @KenMrKLC
      @KenMrKLC 3 роки тому +2

      Yup, I just commented this lol

    • @bennapier9260
      @bennapier9260 3 роки тому +1

      I've seen it done to an old house

    • @KG-yn9qi
      @KG-yn9qi 3 роки тому +1

      The barn was another job! He clean it up inside and out removed a lean-to side of it ! The owner is going to restore it ! Go back you can watch him clean it up!

    • @thomas5956
      @thomas5956 3 роки тому +1

      same here

    • @327JohnnySS
      @327JohnnySS 3 роки тому

      @@KG-yn9qi , They removed the rotten wood and got it down to the structurally intrieguty. It looks like all post and beam with not one nail used in the structure. Nails will create rust and rot because they weren't galvanized back then. They used wooden pegs. That is why the structure is still standing and has lasted for so long. Roofs come and go.

  • @rjpropertymanagement5163
    @rjpropertymanagement5163 3 роки тому +1

    Hey Andrew it's your friend Rocco from Connecticut another great video as always please keep them coming there appreciated yes goats would eat all of that over growth you would need a few tho nice to see the dogs as always thanks your friend Rocco from Connecticut l really like the mulcher they also make them for excavators the high flow mulchers you can go pretty fast thru anything but you work with what you have.

  • @harrysavage2933
    @harrysavage2933 3 роки тому +5

    I miss Levi I'm used to seeing him with you God bless you Andrew and your wife and family I'll always be praying for all of you God bless

  • @richardmugg2132
    @richardmugg2132 3 роки тому +5

    Outstanding content as usual. When you are looking for ideas for new, you might want to consider a blanket review of all the skid steer accessories you've acquired over the years; not only function and operations, but remarks on effectiveness, reliability, and maintenance requirements.

  • @lindaweilburg6428
    @lindaweilburg6428 3 роки тому

    Hello Mr. Camarata, you are such a hard working young man and I wish you all the very best for ever. If anyone truly believes the saying "God Helps them who Helps themselves. then that person surely is you, Please be careful and many Blessings to you.

  • @thehammer1599
    @thehammer1599 3 роки тому +7

    Andrew should buy an FAE mower head for that TL 12!!! Half the time to do all of that mowing, love your videos Andrew!!

  • @GFD472
    @GFD472 3 роки тому +115

    Machines used for mulching seem to need a very high flow rate and plenty extra horse power to keep the head spinning at optimal speeds.

    • @aaronabney8924
      @aaronabney8924 3 роки тому +23

      That mulching blade is the same we use on feller bunchers round here minus the upper and lower teeth and the blade on the feller buncher weighs 600 pounds but they usually have a 450 cat motor pushing the hydrolics and a 6 inch pine tree will almost stop the balde if you sink it into it too quick skid steers just dont have the flow needed to really keep that head going unfortunately

    • @GenghisKhan311
      @GenghisKhan311 3 роки тому +3

      Felcher

    • @dddddyyn
      @dddddyyn 3 роки тому +15

      Yep, the mulcher wants 30gpm and the TL12 only outputs 23gpm. Andrew needs a more powerful skid-steer.

    • @Dirtlife98
      @Dirtlife98 3 роки тому +8

      @@dddddyyn not more powerful, more purpose built. You could run a skiddy with the same HP as long as it has high flow + auxiliary hydraulic cooler. Forestry mulching with a skid steer (or really any small piece of equipment) is all an experiment right now... this is one of the only jobs that will push a CTL to its limit.

    • @dddddyyn
      @dddddyyn 3 роки тому +2

      ​@@Dirtlife98 higher flow = more powerfull.

  • @kenc.9067
    @kenc.9067 3 роки тому

    Andrew is so blessed to be able to take his dogs on a job like this. I bet the dogs love exploring that field

  • @backwoodsnomad1387
    @backwoodsnomad1387 3 роки тому +60

    As soon as he said “its too underpowered” i thought it was going to flip to his shop and him taking it apart.

  • @ellisc.foleyjr9778
    @ellisc.foleyjr9778 3 роки тому +41

    Well it was an interesting evaluation, each has their own merits. I was impressed by what the mulcher could do. but definitely not the price for only 4ft'r. but like Andrew says it takes a while to get used to it. but still a lot of money for that size and ability. but great video Andrew! enjoyed every minute of it. thanks for sharing.

  • @MarcelKoop
    @MarcelKoop 3 роки тому

    I think the videos for you are fantastic to see and there are those little jobs I always enjoy watching them

  • @OUTDOORS55
    @OUTDOORS55 3 роки тому +272

    Wish you were closer. Have some up coming projects i could use you on. Keep up the good work. Always enjoy your videos👍

    • @AK-47ISTHEWAY
      @AK-47ISTHEWAY 3 роки тому +25

      If you offer him enough money I'm sure he would travel 🤷‍♂️

    • @Jackrabbitt247
      @Jackrabbitt247 3 роки тому +9

      @@AK-47ISTHEWAY either that or I'll find out if I can take that job lol

    • @jbcllc6949
      @jbcllc6949 3 роки тому +6

      We're are you at I have a bobcat T750 and looking for work for it

    • @Edwin777-z9x
      @Edwin777-z9x 3 роки тому +3

      Cool comment!

    • @Workingdad2380
      @Workingdad2380 3 роки тому +5

      That’s how we do it in New York love your videos on one of your OG subscribers I’ve been watching way before you even had 50,000 subs keep doing you Erik from Strong Island

  • @dingbatjack1234
    @dingbatjack1234 3 роки тому +9

    18K F that return it! What a bummer! One thing I admire greatly about Andrew is he never gets mad but every man has his limits!

  • @roberthall1686
    @roberthall1686 2 роки тому

    Love all the experts out there.

  • @spideybrent
    @spideybrent 3 роки тому +15

    Hello from Yorkton, Saskatchewan, Canada. Thanks for sharing your great video’s please keep them coming.

  • @183charlesspiva
    @183charlesspiva 3 роки тому +40

    Andrew, I'm sure you've already figured out why the skid steer has a hard time with brush cutters. But for those that don't, the main problem with not being able to keep the cutter spinning is the hydraulic oil has gotten too hot. That's not a problem with just Andrews' mower, the skid steer platform as a tool carrier doesn't have the capacity to carry enough oil or the capability to sufficiently keep cool the oil it does use, not even including the lack of HP shared by all skid steers. Hydraulic oil temperature that exceeds 175 or 180 won't get work done and doesn't have the lubricating ability that the equipment needs. (hard on seals, valves, pumps, etc.) Even the so-called 'hi-flow' skid steers are really challenged with cutters.

    • @Mrcaffinebean
      @Mrcaffinebean 3 роки тому +7

      Interesting so what are these designed for? Could you add a big cooler to help them out?

    • @GenghisKhan311
      @GenghisKhan311 3 роки тому

      Love the scarface music

    • @Fishcop-326
      @Fishcop-326 3 роки тому +3

      My C232 works fine with the same type of brush cutter that Andrew is using.

    • @frotobaggins7169
      @frotobaggins7169 3 роки тому +4

      seems like adding oil capacity and a large oil cooler would help.

    • @GenghisKhan311
      @GenghisKhan311 3 роки тому +3

      Need a massive oil cooler

  • @Vigo327
    @Vigo327 3 роки тому +11

    Good vid. For me it just reinforced the idea of how much you can do with the brush hog. The mulcher i'm sure will be effective after you learn to 'drive around it' and develop patience for it. I would definitely do everything I could with the brush hog and then come back for the problem areas with the slow mulcher.

  • @joshfreeman3264
    @joshfreeman3264 3 роки тому +48

    1:37 Me: "Right on its made in Canada!"
    30 seconds later: "Crap the boys didnt even tighten it properly." LOL

    • @Double_Vision
      @Double_Vision 3 роки тому +10

      Yet the blade has "Made in China" laser etched all over it. Might just be an assembled in Canada job.

    • @joshfreeman3264
      @joshfreeman3264 3 роки тому

      @@Double_Vision ah probably

    • @davidj4662
      @davidj4662 3 роки тому +2

      Not exactly very confidence inspiring, being made in Canada. I'd stick to US or Euro made stuff.

    • @JPLTF373
      @JPLTF373 3 роки тому

      @@davidj4662 Japan or bust

    • @327JohnnySS
      @327JohnnySS 3 роки тому

      @@Double_Vision, they always use inferior metals in all their products. Eventually all products that are made in China and up in landfills because they are junk and people want to save a few $. Imagine if said in etching. Made in the USA?

  • @Heresy488
    @Heresy488 3 роки тому +4

    For the amount of energy in this channel and its videos, it's always funny to me when it starts with a focus on something as mundane as a dog laying on its side, bored, waiting for something to happen.
    The idea that Andrew is ever "idle" strikes me as bizarre lol

  • @giangluvvynabbey
    @giangluvvynabbey 3 роки тому

    One of my favorite episode. Something satisfying about industrial mowers on a skid steer.

  • @BackyardMaine
    @BackyardMaine 3 роки тому +4

    The only channel that I watch right away when I see a new upload.

  • @markiootje
    @markiootje 3 роки тому +8

    yesss new vid of andrew you makes my evening,there is nothing on tv so i watch youtube,i like your vids chears from netherlands

  • @donf3739
    @donf3739 3 роки тому

    Now you have me and probably others wanting to see the progress on that old barn it looks like they're restoring.

  • @jamesnm21
    @jamesnm21 3 роки тому +86

    Every attachment company waiting for him to buy something.
    Edit: Andrew has no patience for things that stop spinning. 😂

    • @fayegoss8350
      @fayegoss8350 3 роки тому

      Great opportunity for, any company that says, we have better equipment, to prove it.
      Pay the man to show what
      your equipment can do.
      Just my thought.

  • @cleughy8736
    @cleughy8736 3 роки тому +35

    Never clicked was fast on a video, woohoo video from Andrew 😁
    Holy crap them trees didn't stand a chance against that beast.

  • @WardMarshall-uq1nn
    @WardMarshall-uq1nn 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for showing the weakness of each system. Best content because it is real life informative.

  • @wb5mgr
    @wb5mgr 3 роки тому +16

    When you are running that mulcher, and trying to shred a felled tree allow the tip to droop a little rather than keeping it flat. Think of it as shaving the ground with the front edge of the disc and not the bottom. Running it flat is more for grinding stumps and such.
    You are right though, your head speed seems slow like your flow is inadequate into the motor.

  • @Gabbrrys
    @Gabbrrys 3 роки тому +10

    Sat down the food and the legend himself has uploaded agin. Thank you sir

  • @brianclarke7169
    @brianclarke7169 3 роки тому

    Have spent the last year watching you. Great stuff. Happy New Year.

  • @hughvane
    @hughvane 3 роки тому +14

    When mowing overgrowth that was previously grazed pasture, I was advised to start on whatever edge was opposite to the direction of blade rotation. In the case of Andrew's new, expensive, but frustratingly underpowered machine, the blades rotated clockwise, so one would start on the RH edge of whatever foliage area needed cutting - as we see being done from 19:44 with the older machine. That way the debris would (should?) get flung out instead of being drawn in. Mulching may require a second pass over the debris with a different machine - as we see from 32:20.

    • @BrianSmith-ow9gy
      @BrianSmith-ow9gy 3 роки тому +1

      That would require doing the work in a circular pattern so that an outside edge was always available??

    • @hughvane
      @hughvane 3 роки тому +1

      @@BrianSmith-ow9gy Depending on where one started - yes. In some cases i might have been guilty of firing grass clippings into ponds & streams if I'd started at the outer edge, therefore I started in the middle, and then mowed a couple of strips 'inward' before starting the a-clockwise rotation of the mowing machine. It didn't always work.

  • @karlpatterson8437
    @karlpatterson8437 3 роки тому +17

    That brush hog is amazing, very efficient and effective. Makes much more sense to have the working implement in front of you where you can see it than behind on a 3 point hitch. Also you have it on the much more maneuverable skid steer. The mulcher does not seem that useful to actually get a lot of work done. Many of those trees you are playing with could have been down and chopped up way faster with a chainsaw in the right hands. Thanks for this informative video.

    • @jackrich821
      @jackrich821 3 роки тому +1

      Those mulchers need a shid steer with high volume pump …. That machine probably doesn’t have a high volume pump.

    • @rovhalgrencparselstedt8343
      @rovhalgrencparselstedt8343 Рік тому

      @@jackrich821 That mulcher was supposedly a low flow attachment as Andrew stated at the end of the video. Ane even for a low flow attachment it should have had more power than that, it even bogged down on stuff that the brush hog dident even flinch on.
      I honestly think there was something wrong with the hydraulic motor on that mulcher, it was making weird and funny noises during spoolup, and beeing that hesitant/slow/sluggish to spool up is a dead giveaway that its not gonna have much power.

  • @haikubandit2607
    @haikubandit2607 3 роки тому

    I love that you share
    The Good, Bad and The Ugly
    When you are working

  • @SkidSteerSolutions
    @SkidSteerSolutions 3 роки тому +9

    Awesome video comparison Andrew! We gotta get you set up with a high flow version some day to show the beast humming. :D

    • @KD-wg4tn
      @KD-wg4tn 3 роки тому

      Some day!! Why not 2-day. Lol

    • @SkidSteerSolutions
      @SkidSteerSolutions 3 роки тому

      @@KD-wg4tn Andrew needed something that works best with the machine he currently has which is a Standard Flow machine which is why the brush cutter he has appears to be a great match for his machine. Heavy Duty Clearing Mowers like: www.skidsteersolutions.com/typhoon-skid-steer-clearing-mower-eterra/
      OR Disc Mulchers are always asking a lot of a Standard Flow machine, but it's the art of practice and repetition that got it working just right. Once Andrew figured out how to feed the trees into the mulchers in his approach (certainly EASIER said than done, I have tried), it showed.
      When Andrew makes the jump for High Flow, we will be there to get them outfitted. :D

    • @briankaufman2968
      @briankaufman2968 3 роки тому

      Problem is the machine rpm really isn't going down, just the speed of the attachment. Seems like the attachment needs a stronger motor.

  • @darinmorgante7200
    @darinmorgante7200 3 роки тому +4

    "If I gota tell you which one it's not safe" no truer words have been spoken 😅

  • @hjemison
    @hjemison 3 роки тому

    In Arizona, they’ll bring 100 - 200 sheep to clear a couple hundred acres of pastures in 3-4 days. For the growth you were mowing, goats are better suited. They’ll eat ANYTHING! There’s something very satisfying watching the brush hog and the chipper chew that brush up.

  • @charlesyates6687
    @charlesyates6687 3 роки тому +111

    The new one is only getting up to 50% of the rpm that blade is designed to run thats why you're having so much trouble with it . Watch a feller buncher it uses the same blade but runs 4 times the rpm you run and the blade simgs like a space ship.

    • @SupermanJH68
      @SupermanJH68 3 роки тому +7

      Absolutely agree

    • @jaybaar1
      @jaybaar1 3 роки тому +4

      Is it the machine that needs more power or a better mulcher?

    • @noisy7825
      @noisy7825 3 роки тому +11

      Yeah the TL12 is 23GPM, the optional high flow can go up to 40GPM. The mulcher head can take up to 30GPM. The head is just too light to keep it spinning with low flow.

    • @BlackHawkBallistic
      @BlackHawkBallistic 3 роки тому +10

      @@jaybaar1 more flow, the TL12 is large but he probably needs a machine purpose built with hi-flow hydraulics. I know that Cat makes a hi-flow version of their 299 which is TL12 size so I'd imagine Takeuchi does a similar thing.

    • @klillis1989
      @klillis1989 3 роки тому +8

      @@BlackHawkBallistic yeah they do. I use one with a fecon at work and it rips. I was wondering while watching if he had high flow on but it must of not came equipped with it.

  • @ShootLuckGaming
    @ShootLuckGaming 3 роки тому +35

    Should have gotten a DiamondMower or similiar drum mulcher. Would be more practical for those jobs as they grind up material much better and can handle a lot more at once before they stall. Those disc mulcher tend to get stuck more easy because theres way more room between the top of the disc and chassis for stuff to get lodged and stuck inside and stall much easier

    • @Chr.U.Cas1622
      @Chr.U.Cas1622 3 роки тому +2

      Dear S. L. G.
      👍👌👏 Exactly my thoughts instantly too. A drum mulcher with a lot of hardened teeth.
      Best regards luck and health.

    • @GenghisKhan311
      @GenghisKhan311 3 роки тому +2

      They are 30gs thought

    • @Dirtlife98
      @Dirtlife98 3 роки тому +2

      30 grand and he'd need a bigger skid steer to even attempt to run one. Even this TL12 isn't big enough for that little disc mulcher

  • @Grandpanfun
    @Grandpanfun 3 роки тому

    The old Carpenter saying, work fast or not at all. If the equipment doesn’t work at your speed you’re losing money. Great video

  • @carrollhammon2038
    @carrollhammon2038 2 роки тому +3

    I feel like both have their advantages. Obviously the mulcher prefers the lower rate of travel, but does a neater job in the end.