Thanks Henry, as a Retired Soldier/Musician in my 60s now, who has been teaching myself music since I first picked up a guitar when I was 14 years old. Thank you so much for helping me keep my creative mind going. I am excited to try this. I will let you know how it goes. Do you ever do live shows. it would be nice to share some of my ideas with you. Thanks again for helping me stay motivated.
I'm also a retired soldier and musician. I performed continuously throughout my military career. I don't do live anymore. The last live I did was a musical a couple of years ago and after doing 4 shows a week I finally decided that I've had my fill of live :-)
Thanks for talking through your process. Interesting how powerful Cakewalk is. I may need to check it out. I think they are going to start charging for it in the future and maybe make it a subscription type service. Appreciate your laid back style. And great song, by the way.
Cakewalk will stay free for now however the company Bandlab has taken the software (that was once called Sonar) and released a new version called Sonar under subscription only model (for now). Cakewalk is slated to not receive any further development however Sonar will continue to be developed as a commercial product. The new Sonar is only months into release and most of what they worked on was aesthetic but also an improved more efficient audio engine. Free Cakewalk is still an excellent DAW. Bandlab is a simplified tool developed separately, a bit like Garage Band was to MAC.
I have other videos on song creation. The focus of this video was to show the integration effort and how you can extend you capabilities outside of the BIAB console.
I would like to credit my mixing skills and also my use of good plug-ins. For example OZone is a very good mastering plug-in and can give your song outstanding quality but you still have to concentrate on your mix to get it close. Also it's not unusual for me to have 10 or so mixes on my songs trying to get it right :-)
You lost me with th13 track, but I have to do some repeating viewing to figure it. I mostly kept it simple to 3 or 4 tracks, so I have a lot to learn. Thanks for the info.
I think your band lab out-sound out comes through your room loudspeakers and into the feed, but through your microphone and not out-line? Still the lesson is valid.
It doesn't but the biggest challenge with voice over and playing the track in OBS software is that I have to make it MONO which sucks but I couldn't figure out any other way.
Hi Henry, I see you use the Windows versions of BIAB so have you upgraded to 2025? If there were one thing on my wish-list for BIAB it would be a Europeanised version that's less heavy on the C&W and Praise and more on the traditional styles over here, from Mod to flamenco.
I have not upgraded yet but I can totally agree with your comment on the styles of music. I've stated before that BIAB is great for C&W, old style Jazz, and Praise and they still have not changed much. Personally when I create Disco, Pop, or House style music I do not use BIAB to create those tracks.
Strange i have recorded bands in real band, completely without bnb. I have added multiple other outside tracks to bnb created songs too. Vocals guitars even a string ensemble. I tried cakewalk, sonar, pro tools, logic, cubebase. And several others always come back to realband. 48 tracks. I recorded a project that used 24 tracks no problem. My interface can send 14 tracks separately into real band at the same time one pass. I guess everyone has their favorites.
Realband is fine when the music is created in BIAB but I find it severely lacking for supporting other types of music. I create a lot of music outside of BIAB and I find Realband severely lacking when I do that.
Strange i have recorded bands in real band, completely without bnb. I have added multiple other outside tracks to bnb created songs too. Vocals guitars even a string ensemble. I tried cakewalk, sonar, pro tools, logic, cubebase. And several others always come back to realband. 48 tracks. I recorded a project that used 24 tracks no problem. My interface can send 14 tracks separately into real band at the same time one pass. I guess everyone has their favorites.
Thanks Henry, as a Retired Soldier/Musician in my 60s now, who has been teaching myself music since I first picked up a guitar when I was 14 years old. Thank you so much for helping me keep my creative mind going. I am excited to try this. I will let you know how it goes. Do you ever do live shows. it would be nice to share some of my ideas with you. Thanks again for helping me stay motivated.
Rock on !
I'm also a retired soldier and musician. I performed continuously throughout my military career. I don't do live anymore. The last live I did was a musical a couple of years ago and after doing 4 shows a week I finally decided that I've had my fill of live :-)
Thanks Henry!
Thanks for watching.
Thanks, nice tutorial and Song ❤
Thanks for watching.
Thanks for sharing your joy of music with us. Pretty good process as well. I'm inspired to go record.
I'm glad you are inspired!
And thanks for all your work doing this and the pleasure of finding things out.
You're Welcome !
Thank you, Henry, for another good one!
Thanks for listening
Thanks for talking through your process. Interesting how powerful Cakewalk is. I may need to check it out. I think they are going to start charging for it in the future and maybe make it a subscription type service. Appreciate your laid back style. And great song, by the way.
Yes. Cakewalk will likely go subscription based at some point. Glad you liked the song!
Cakewalk will stay free for now however the company Bandlab has taken the software (that was once called Sonar) and released a new version called Sonar under subscription only model (for now). Cakewalk is slated to not receive any further development however Sonar will continue to be developed as a commercial product. The new Sonar is only months into release and most of what they worked on was aesthetic but also an improved more efficient audio engine.
Free Cakewalk is still an excellent DAW.
Bandlab is a simplified tool developed separately, a bit like Garage Band was to MAC.
@@NathanElleryThanks for the detailed response!
It would be nice to see you make the band in a box part fist.
I have other videos on song creation. The focus of this video was to show the integration effort and how you can extend you capabilities outside of the BIAB console.
Thanks for your gracious help. How to you get those full, professional sounding tracks on BI B?
I would like to credit my mixing skills and also my use of good plug-ins. For example OZone is a very good mastering plug-in and can give your song outstanding quality but you still have to concentrate on your mix to get it close. Also it's not unusual for me to have 10 or so mixes on my songs trying to get it right :-)
You lost me with th13 track, but I have to do some repeating viewing to figure it. I mostly kept it simple to 3 or 4 tracks, so I have a lot to learn. Thanks for the info.
Yes it does get more complex with more tracks but it gives you more options.
I think your band lab out-sound out comes through your room loudspeakers and into the feed, but through your microphone and not out-line? Still the lesson is valid.
It doesn't but the biggest challenge with voice over and playing the track in OBS software is that I have to make it MONO which sucks but I couldn't figure out any other way.
Hi Henry, I see you use the Windows versions of BIAB so have you upgraded to 2025? If there were one thing on my wish-list for BIAB it would be a Europeanised version that's less heavy on the C&W and Praise and more on the traditional styles over here, from Mod to flamenco.
I have not upgraded yet but I can totally agree with your comment on the styles of music. I've stated before that BIAB is great for C&W, old style Jazz, and Praise and they still have not changed much. Personally when I create Disco, Pop, or House style music I do not use BIAB to create those tracks.
what version of BIAB do you have?
Right now I'm on 2024.
Strange i have recorded bands in real band, completely without bnb. I have added multiple other outside tracks to bnb created songs too. Vocals guitars even a string ensemble. I tried cakewalk, sonar, pro tools, logic, cubebase. And several others always come back to realband. 48 tracks. I recorded a project that used 24 tracks no problem. My interface can send 14 tracks separately into real band at the same time one pass. I guess everyone has their favorites.
I use a lot of loops and a lot of lead and background vocals. I also do Pop and EDM. Just doesn't work for me but like you said to each his own.
Why don't you just use realband, it's band in a box and a daw both together in one software, no need for another daw.
Realband is fine when the music is created in BIAB but I find it severely lacking for supporting other types of music. I create a lot of music outside of BIAB and I find Realband severely lacking when I do that.
Strange i have recorded bands in real band, completely without bnb. I have added multiple other outside tracks to bnb created songs too. Vocals guitars even a string ensemble. I tried cakewalk, sonar, pro tools, logic, cubebase. And several others always come back to realband. 48 tracks. I recorded a project that used 24 tracks no problem. My interface can send 14 tracks separately into real band at the same time one pass. I guess everyone has their favorites.
Hi, have you had a chance to check out BIAB 2025 yet? I would appreciate your thoughts before I upgrade.
I haven't received a copy yet and I will make a video once I dig into it and find out if what it offers is good and technically easy to implement.