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The new Labour MPs who could be the next big players | The New Statesman
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- Опубліковано 12 лип 2024
- Of the 335 new MPs, who are the future big beasts that we should be keeping an eye out for?
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Hannah Barnes and Rachel Cunliffe discuss the rising star's in the new Labour government.
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Could do a bit editing here and show us the pictures of the people you're talking about. It's good to have a face to the name
You missed Chris Bloore, the Labour MP for Redditch. He's a returning expat. He ran the Ontario tourist board through Covid and is widely credited with saving that sector from collapse. He is 41, bright and very able. If I were recommending his skills I would suggest the whips office. His people management skills are really good.
You mean immigrant
@@jamesprice4647 I don't think he's an immigrant. He was on a job in Ontario when lockdown happened so he was stuck there and kept doing the job
@@ianwoodall4523 And Sue Gray's son. Liam Conlon.
@@ym10up I think expatriation falls under immigration.
What about working class MPs? Only 8 Labour MP’s this Parliament were from blue collar backgrounds… I don’t discredit those new MP’s with degrees, PHDs or fancy roles in think tanks, I just think there not very representative of the wider population. You could argue the reason reform did so well is because ordinary people didn’t see people like themselves on the ballot paper!
Nigel Farage was privately educated, and the son of a stockbroker. Richard Tice is the son of a philanthropist. I get what you mean, but a lot of the key players in Reform are just cosplaying at being working class.
I think they're the most working class cabinet ever? Sure, they're well educated, but that doesn't change the fact that most went to state school.
@@Dayrile123yet all sound the same 🤣 grammar schools aka brainwashing schools for the working class so the middle and upperclass can act like they believe in social mobility 😉. There are also lots of nepo babies in there too
@@jpc2470Ben did not state otherwise. It is still the reason Reform got elected because Farage is hypocritical and tries to present as an ordinary person (he also believes in Brexit so much he wants his children to have German passports). However well he does, it still makes him look more grounded than most.
All middle class or upper middle class. Well , it is the New Statesmen
One man too 🤣🤣. Notice how all the ethnic groups are over represented well except for Scots of course 🙄
Darren Jones (Bristol North) is definitely worth watching.
My first thought as well but he’s not new by the criteria they’re going off of
You cannot be taken seriously if called Darren.
It's Bristol North West and as @zedrake said, he's been an MP since 2017 so not eligible for this topic.
@@stephfoxwell4620Imagine that, ‘Prime Minister Dazza’ 😂😂 He’s a great chap though
We're tired of not listening to experts!
here here.
I'd say it depends. We need experts. But expertise must be demonstrated, not just asserted.
Yuan Yang is now my MP - a big improvement on Redwood.
The biggest benefit of banning the polls would be that commentators might talk about what the parties are offering rathe than just their polling numbers. It was relentless, i barely heard any analysis of policy and had daily poll updates.
Sexist and far too London centred discussion.
Life exists outside London.
Great work is done outside London
As the majority of MPs come from outside of London this discussion would only be valid if it hadn't been limited to the narrow group who these people know
Darren Jones Brilliant 🎉
Polls can’t be wrong. Polls show what the electorate is thinking during the polling period. They aren’t intended to be predictive. There’s clearly a lot of people who wanted a Labour government but tactical voting may have caused them to not vote Labour in their constituency. And again, the parties in the left got the majority of the vote, just like the polls had shown consistently.
What about Liam Conlon.
Son of Sue Gray.
Media kept that one quiet.
Good show.
You missed out Joani Reid, Labour MP for East Kilbride and Strathaven. She is the granddaughter of Jimmy Reid and she could be a future big player in Scottish politics most probably a potential future First Minister.
Nice that you covered Yuan Yang though.
There's a real risk of picking people that come from the political centre. Given that London has colossal wealth but the periphery holds some of the poorest regions in Europe, I'd like to see some new blood from some of the talented people from Wales, Cornwall, the Highlands, and similar areas.
They aren’t interested in Scotland which is why the only cabinet position that went to a Scottish MP was the Scottish secretary 🙄. Other groups over represented though, surprise surprise
Torsten Bell is supposedly the man who gave us the "Ed Stone"
Two things I notice.
1 Most have experience in law
2 Most seem experienced in what they are doing, or have family members that are.
I'm fed up with asshats running things that they shouldn't be, or being someone's mate and getting a billion dollar contract *cough* mone *cough*
Yeah this bunch of middle class people and nepo babies will be much better 🤣🤣🤣
Despite the Tories constant bleating about Labour having "no plan", it's obvious they had a detailed vision and plan.
Darren Jones, Chris Bryant and Andy Burnham are my favourites
The next big players. When do we get to find out what game they are playing?
When they write a book about it. 😂
Truth is one really never knows. Someone that is just in it for the money or ego never say, but neither do those that are super caring.
If you look at their backgrounds you will see that they are driven by social justice, not ideology.
That's a very good question. I'd start by asking who's directing Starmer, and go from there.
@@jimmeltonbradley1497
The drive for 'social justice' is heavily-laden with ideology.
It's the same establishment neo liberal game the Tories have been playing
What a positive take away. Nice to get that in politics now.
Very varied who they chose to be impressive.... Alastair Campbell's nephew, daughter of Philip Gould and son of Lord Falconer now MPs. How did they get into politics..... Very impressive....Angela Reyner getting into politics is impressive. I literally just expect the others to be there. Daddy wouldn't have it any other way.
and the granddaughter of Jimmy Reid as well.
It’s good to see so many Labour MPs with strong educational and political backgrounds.
without polling tactical voting is much harder
This could have been interesting but the lack of photos means I have no better idea who these people are after watching than I had before.
Glad you highlighted Yuan Yang. She's really impressive, I think she's going to go far. Interesting how her Chinese background will be treated by our right wing media.
Fascinating. New govt being populated by can-do technocratic players who have earned their stripes outside of 'pure' politics - or impure politics. Admired. Thinkers. Etc. But the final bit is the personal skills. Starmer doesn't suffer fools gladly and plans. Can the newbies get their job done and weed out the passengers / idiocy?
There are several nepo babies in the Labour Party 🤣🤣🤣
Banning polling is equivalent to banning knowledge, it's a ridiculous notion.
Polling is part of the structure that allows the citizen to decide how effective their vote will be, without a poll the voter may not vote how they really want to vote, because they might assume their vote won't have an effect, and go with the safe but an undesirable option.
A poll allows a voter, to make an educated judgement, not just on the performance of the parties involved, but also how effect her/his vote will be in achieving a desirable outcome.
any suggestion to ban polling is a ridiculous band-aid to the problems of a) the voting system and FPTP and b) the media and their choice to prioritise horse race politics over the substance of policy.
Starmer’s Labour government will offer the country positive change delivered by a multitude of mature MPs bringing innovation ito their departmental projects
Great to see more really 👍 women being in cabinet 😊
What if Farage become the Tory leader this year❓
He will be busy helping Trump and Putin.
People complain about the country going to pot because of immigrants. They will then see the country completely go to rack and ruin. Immigrants don't vote, so only themselves to blame. @TimoDyer
@@TimoDyerdoing what?😂 He's one of five MPs
The party would split
He'd have to actually attend parliament for that to happen 😂
None of the above
Would be good to know impact of voter ID & also issues around postal votes. Think the Tories are responsible for the huge disillusionment with politics that we’ve seen on streets & turnout. The whole Lab supermajority campaign too will have had an impact.
Very very excited by the new talent in HoC esp Miatta F & Torsten Bell. Imagine what Rachel Reeves, Darren Jones & new two can do on the economy 💛.
Hand even more money over to the private sector for second jobs
Ydy Torsten Bell yn siarad yr iaith eto??
My MP, Damien Egan in Bristol North East.
Former Mayor of Lewisham, 11,000 / 26% majority, and he has the political X factor in my opinion.
Dear lord.
Heisenberg.
How knew the Poles were such a powerful force in UK politics?
At last someone who uses the schrödinger’s cat analogy correctly
Although she really just wanted the classical observer effect without all the superposition and measurement problem gubbins!
You mean "Heisenberg's uncertainty principle" not "Schrödingers cat".
No, she's right. The Heisenberg uncertainty principle means that as you measure one feature (position) the measurement of another (velocity) becomes less precise. Schrödingers cat means once you observe something (poll results) the state changes (election outcome). The argument is that seeing polling influences voter behaviour; i.e. once you've measured "it", "it" has now changed.
I think both would apply in this instance. The point being made is that the act of measuring anything changes that which is being measured. In this case the suggestion is that by polls measuring people's intentions (and publicising them), they changed people's intentions, which appears to be accurate. It is also true to say that this particular metric was impossible to track with absolute accuracy, not least because polls take time to compile, and in that time frame circumstances have undoubtedly changed. So both apply.
I would also make the point that polls in general, although a good indicator, will never be able to truly predict the actual vote of the "undecided" voter, which could easily make up for the gap in vote share predicted vs actual.
I've always found it fascinating, have a nice day!
She really just means the classical observer effect. Heisenbergs is actually even less appropriate than what she said (it is much much more specific than you think it is).
I saw Melanie Ward, newly elected for Cowdenbeith, do an incredibly powerful speech, and she has background running Medical Aid for Palestinians
Labour has blown it on genocide. Nothing will conceal the stench
Too obvious as a engine of propaganda
you mean Heisenberg's uncertainty principle rather than Schrödinger's cat.
Thats actually even more wrong. She really just wants the classical observer effect, all the quantum stuff isn’t needed …