Four True Magicians Left In This World...Where's The 5th?

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  • @aavagourlay8098
    @aavagourlay8098 Місяць тому +9

    I’d always assumed that the user of the third magic left the world to enter the root itself, the descriptions of what it means to be a materialised soul often reference being connected directly to the root without needing mana from Gaia, so if anyone could actually enter the root and still be themselves it might be them! That way the third magician would have quite literally left the world without being, well, dead

  • @DrHughMonguscoque
    @DrHughMonguscoque 2 місяці тому +80

    Is that f'n Cloud in the thumbnail?🤣🤣

    • @Gtboy_Editz
      @Gtboy_Editz 2 місяці тому +9

      Yeah Cloud is the mystery

    • @earthliving6558
      @earthliving6558 2 місяці тому +8

      I'd never miss that hair and the shoulder screws

  • @gaama6050
    @gaama6050 2 місяці тому +44

    *Spoilers for those who haven't read Tsukihime*
    About the Third Magic user and how they are immortal but can't die. I'm reminded of a line that is mentioned in Tsukihime that all living things have some sort of "death" or "end" built into them and that to become immortal would mean you wouldn't be living any more because you have no longer carry "death".
    "The Serpent" reincarnates into humans through his soul, something I'd call very close to the Third Magic. But even then, it's made clear his immortality would only last as long as humanity exists. But to "The Serpent" it isn't an issue because living past humanity's extinction would be meaningless and would be his "true" death of his immortality.
    I say all this to say that it's perhaps the Third Magic user could still be in the world, existing as an immortal, but might not be considered to truly be alive since he has no "death." Just a thought.

    • @marvel-uppermoon
      @marvel-uppermoon Місяць тому

      Omg!

    • @jackfdhunter7036
      @jackfdhunter7036 Місяць тому

      That's a good theory. Maybe its Angra Mainyu? He is a close candidate considering his connection to the Holy Grail, an item we know can use the Third Magic

    • @gaama6050
      @gaama6050 Місяць тому

      @@jackfdhunter7036 I could see that possibly being the case, but I lean more into it being someone else we haven’t seen before. Plus if it was Angra you’d think they’d have mentioned it by now.

    • @jackfdhunter7036
      @jackfdhunter7036 Місяць тому

      @@gaama6050 Completely fair

    • @TrueBladeSoul
      @TrueBladeSoul 29 днів тому +2

      It’s also possible they may have chosen to die or they could literally be a ghost since the body can still be destroyed

  • @DragonKingXceed
    @DragonKingXceed 2 місяці тому +22

    Cloud in the nasuverse confirmed?

  • @josecuestas7246
    @josecuestas7246 2 місяці тому +31

    Where's The 5th?
    Answer: he was isekaid to the world of Harry Potter 😅

  • @Marcusstar-kd6zn
    @Marcusstar-kd6zn 2 місяці тому +30

    Honestly True Magicians are are weirdos with Even weird personality and Hobbes example
    first people think it either it's a witch call Yumina or some mysterious heir is still alive, but barely or possibly JESUS HIMSELF!!!
    Second is is it Marshall who sometimes vampire sometimes not a vampire can't decide who hobby is magic girls and will a known prankster to the point then I'm decided to make even bigger troll version of him as excuse for ISEKAI people in there fanfiction
    Third has a Messiah mentality decided to somehow get involved in the holy Grail war in order to achieve salvation to all mankind again weirdo include her descendants are weirdos too
    The fourth decide to play peekaboo hide and go seek simply vanished of the face of the Earth
    Well the fifth is probably the most irresponsible one who loves to travel around and has a fetish for shotacon AKA little boys That's right The 5th is a shotacon who follows hikaru genji plan

    • @leonardozapeta2054
      @leonardozapeta2054 2 місяці тому +1

      Jesus him self is crazy

    • @fgostoryteller2168
      @fgostoryteller2168 2 місяці тому +5

      Jesus isn’t the first magician they confirm that first magic is related to witches

    • @Marcusstar-kd6zn
      @Marcusstar-kd6zn 2 місяці тому +1

      @@fgostoryteller2168 give it time I'm sure nasu would find a way to tie Jesus with the witches and first magic later

    • @moss9602
      @moss9602 2 місяці тому +4

      It's funny to think that, because canonical Aoko is in love with Soujuurou. Hard shit
      If you want to know her canonical weird hobby? Well she makes him wear a collar and carries him on a leash. Girl loves some petplay

    • @Marcusstar-kd6zn
      @Marcusstar-kd6zn 2 місяці тому

      @@moss9602 humm honestly To be fair, I don't think any of the main trio has anything that can be considered as romantical chemistry yet not mention aoko doesn't mention or talk about him when she appear in Melty Blood, with Aoko mentioning Alice but not him at all and if there is any romance Soujuurou and Alice are the only love interests and Aoko's just immune to romance and just best wing man also worth noting that when Shiki splits into a piece for every woman who has heroine/romantic potential with him, there is one that is clearly meant for Aoko. It's the first one Shiki thinks about and the scene from carnival phantasm only made me sure she was using the hikaru genji plan on shiki

  • @dilbertbraphog2886
    @dilbertbraphog2886 2 місяці тому +4

    I would have to agree that Cloud is one of the last magicians

  • @AscendtionArc
    @AscendtionArc 2 місяці тому +2

    Thanks for this.

  • @TrueBladeSoul
    @TrueBladeSoul 29 днів тому +1

    Wait I think I know who are either the successors to the first or weilders of the fourth the dark Six the sisters who share a spot among the dead apostle ancestors they have true magic and when they were revived it drained enough mana to kill Gia this comes from Angel notes where the types were introduced

  • @propablyconfused
    @propablyconfused 2 місяці тому +3

    Time to re read tsukihime

  • @entei7958
    @entei7958 2 місяці тому +1

    Will you do a video about witch composit charakter will be the strongest like composit gill competition shiro masters and servent with more then one form but all forms fused

  • @Umbreon650
    @Umbreon650 2 місяці тому +3

    Flat might be the 4th magic user

  • @WinspearUltima
    @WinspearUltima Місяць тому +1

    I see cloud on the thumbnail

  • @potential1327
    @potential1327 2 місяці тому +2

    Day 3 of asking:
    Tsiah IV, do you mind making a video on "how strong is Hakuno Kishinami" from Fate Extra

    • @casteanpreswyn7528
      @casteanpreswyn7528 2 місяці тому

      That's a...super complicated topic. Especially if you include Dead Face and the stuff from the anime continuation.

  • @Forsakenruler
    @Forsakenruler 2 місяці тому +5

    Also can you make a video about to directly get true magic

    • @Forsakenruler
      @Forsakenruler 2 місяці тому

      And survive

    • @swindle6644
      @swindle6644 2 місяці тому +5

      In the Nasuverse, to get True Magic you need to reach the Root. Then survive the Red Shadow, and come back. Congrats, you're one of the most OP characters in the setting.

    • @Forsakenruler
      @Forsakenruler 2 місяці тому

      @@swindle6644 how do you get to the root other than by using the holy grail

    • @swindle6644
      @swindle6644 2 місяці тому +4

      @@Forsakenruler That isn't really explained in detail.
      According to the wiki, it is attempted via "reaching the pinnacle of a certain concept".
      Of course, there is also the Grail wars, but that can only be done via sacrificing all 7 servants, including your own.
      Either way, it's difficult.

    • @vietcuongnguyenle8530
      @vietcuongnguyenle8530 Місяць тому +1

      @@Forsakenruler the holy grail not connect to the root, the holy grail connect to gaia and alaya
      There is many way to reach the root , of course if your goal is true magic then you must reach it through magic

  • @prodbykalil2146
    @prodbykalil2146 2 місяці тому +1

    Question. What is the difference between True magic and Age of Gods magecraft and which is stronger than the other.

    • @vietcuongnguyenle8530
      @vietcuongnguyenle8530 Місяць тому +2

      True magic stronger , it come straight from the source of magic
      While the magic of the god just created from their own nature and mystery and strong because their own nature
      The source of magic above any other kind of magic

  • @user-yp7qv2ks6l
    @user-yp7qv2ks6l 2 місяці тому

    Now I would love to ask this. What if Luvia was in place of Kuzuki and Circe instead of Medea.

  • @XenderAndre
    @XenderAndre 2 місяці тому +1

    Don't not let the Jaw agenda die out. Jaw is third magic user, plus he solo's ORT 🗣

  • @minose400
    @minose400 2 місяці тому

    If Cloud is in the thumbnail, that means that Sephiroth or Aerith possess the 5th Magic.

  • @Arzma
    @Arzma 2 місяці тому

    It wouldn't be weird if the missing mages are in atlas

  • @overlordwarlordtheomnilord9473
    @overlordwarlordtheomnilord9473 2 місяці тому +8

    Tbh I will always continue to believe the third magic user to be Jesus due to the hints on when it was made/when the user was alive and the fact that he had “disciples”. Plus the nature of third magic uses the word immortal in a unique sense since it is only referring to the soul. The immortality of the soul resulting in it never returning to akasha, basically what happens to shirou in heavens feel(though his was imperfect) The materialization of the soul only saves the soul, or rather makes the soul able to survive outside of it’s body and avoid returning to Akasha. The immortal soul is a core belief of Christ, him pulling off in fate terms the third magic when he died on the cross and came back days later. Looking at immortality in this sense allows the two statements to coexist. Then theirs the homunculus, they are attempts of Jesus, being the purest human that was free of sin. The word purity is used specifically to refer to their closeness to the user, the only thing they lack being a true soul. Sieg himself was called perfect and I don’t think it was a coincidence they used him as the main character for the grail war with 2 saints(3 if you count St. George) with him being called pure and perfect. Then theirs funny enough Solomon who basically pulls off what I believe to be a true magic feat, removing himself from the throne(he would have to remove himself from the root itself to that) I believe this was a form of third magic(not to the same degree as the original user). This feat possibly being only possible due to in Solomon’s own words, him returning his gifts to God(which god then takes his shit from the root) I simply believe the Christian servants are on this level, with Solomon himself being the teacher of kaleidoscope and the Mage’s foundation founder. To round this up, I think the immortal soul of Christ fulfills both the requirements of being immortal(his soul) and having disappeared(went to heaven/maybe a second coming hint, or maybe he’s really chilling as a soul on earth or another dimension somewhere)

    • @overlordwarlordtheomnilord9473
      @overlordwarlordtheomnilord9473 2 місяці тому +4

      I held back mentioning the very on the nose stuff like the imagery/themes surrounding the third magic. I’ll just list them off, takes the form of a holy grail in holy grail wars(which has a lot of implications if you know the symbolism of the grail), in fgo we call any large clump of energy a holy grail at this point(thus playing off the idea of souls becoming perpetual motion machines), saints and their thoughts on the holy grail(especially Amakusa in apocrypha, he was gonna do heavens feel on everyone, “possibly meaning early rapture?”), inside the greater grail in apocrypha it looked like Avalon which has heavy ties to either Eden itself or god at the very least with you having to be free of sin to enter, there are most likely more examples I’m just forgetting to mention, feel free to remind me of them if any

    • @casteanpreswyn7528
      @casteanpreswyn7528 2 місяці тому

      ​@overlordwarlordtheomnilord9473 nah, it's Merlin. Almost everything points to it being Merlin, and don't forget Avalon is based on legends that existed before Christ and Merlin is said to have been there before tutoring Artoria and also after.

    • @overlordwarlordtheomnilord9473
      @overlordwarlordtheomnilord9473 2 місяці тому

      @@casteanpreswyn7528 I’m curious, can you tell me what points to it being Merlin. Besides the point of him being immortal/alive but still “disappearing”

    • @casteanpreswyn7528
      @casteanpreswyn7528 2 місяці тому +2

      @overlordwarlordtheomnilord9473 literally everything you listed as suggesting Jesus applies to Merlin. On top of that, we know he qualifies as grand caster while still being alive, he is currently the only confirmed immortal, he is half spiritual so his soul is immortal, and the world itself rejects his existence(something that happens to all with true magic).
      It'd actually be weirder if he wasn't the owner of the third true magic since it helps explain his contradictions.
      Also, he's the creator of the first(as far as we know) and only perfect homunculous, Mordred.

    • @overlordwarlordtheomnilord9473
      @overlordwarlordtheomnilord9473 2 місяці тому

      @@casteanpreswyn7528 With that in mind that makes sense as well, never noticed that

  • @otakunemesis34
    @otakunemesis34 2 місяці тому +1

    Attempt 124 of asking you to a video on white wolf's world of darkness.

  • @Dogofwar9
    @Dogofwar9 2 місяці тому

    I don’t see why type moon refuses to give us more of the true ancestors or true magicians. Its very frustrating

  • @Forsakenruler
    @Forsakenruler 2 місяці тому +2

    4th 😄

  • @ActuallySatan6
    @ActuallySatan6 2 місяці тому

    Nice I’m early.

  • @hollowmask222
    @hollowmask222 2 місяці тому +1

    I am early for once.

  • @taiga738
    @taiga738 2 місяці тому +1

    I don't really get how true magic would cease to exist with the death of the magician or how they're its creators. Wouldn't it make more sense for it to be something that already fundamentally exists as part of the world and magicians just make it accessible to humanity? I think the phrasing for some of this is needlessly confusing and restrictive.

    • @friesforlife8120
      @friesforlife8120 2 місяці тому +6

      I think it’s referring to how only the magician is the only one who has access to True Magic. If the magician dies, the True Magic would be lost and no one would be able to access it again unless they gave to somebody else.

    • @taiga738
      @taiga738 2 місяці тому +1

      @@friesforlife8120The Einzberns getting the third true magic seems to rely on being able to get it even without the magician. I don't think they really need to designate an heir to pass it on. That just helps make sure someone is working on and will eventually be prepared to take their place as a magician should they die. If the magic was permanently lost without them, that wouldn't be possible.

    • @TrueBladeSoul
      @TrueBladeSoul 29 днів тому +2

      @@taiga738it’s that in any world a path to the Root can only be used once so while to people can unlock the same true magic they have to do it differently