1999 Yamaha G16, Gas - No Crank, Bad Stop Switch
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2020
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I have just purchased a 97 G16AR. No matter what video of yours I watch I learn something new. I'm putting brake lights in my cart but decided to use a motorcycle spring type switch... easier adjustment with the floor out. My engine cuts out a slow speeds also... so seeing you replace the accelerator switch made me go look at mine and lo and behold there's an adjustment. Thanks for the video
Ahhh the memories.
My first job after high school 1979 was a golf car mechanic.
Great Lakes Golf Cars. started out building them....and I mean hundreds of them.
Yamaha G1A1 since I had fairly extensive mechanical ability from working on my dirt bikes I moved up to mechanic quickly. Then onto road service everything West of Cleveland to to the Indiana line and up into Michigan. I easily had over a thousand cars in my service.
Saw every Yamaha warranty update possible, brake pedal shafts, starter switches, fuel pump diaphragm, secondary shive springs and bushings, motor mount limiters, steering shaft pin and on and on.....
Went to Yamaha Golf Car service school in NJ....I knew things about the cars the instructors never knew....surely because of the huge fleet I serviced.
Best job I ever had.
Thanks for the vids.
Thanks for the nice story. Its nice to hear about things like this!
I see this is quite old but just wanted to comment that I like the way you make this where you go through the whole process and don't edit out your misdiagnosis or whatever happens. That's real life! Thanks.
I try to keep my mistakes in the video. It shows that I'm human lol.
You’re videos are awesome. I have learned a ton. I love your narration.
These videos are awesome! I have watched all your videos with a G14 and it has been very helpful learning the basics of what most components do and how they work in conjunction with other parts. Thank you very much!
Hi Kevin, love your videos, wish I had found them earlier. My dad(94) and I had refurbished about 13 carts a year until it became too difficult for him. I could have saved myself Soo much time by viewing your videos vs figuring stuff out myself.i have one suggestion for you! Spend 5 minutes to power wash every cart before you start. So much nicer to work on a cleaner cart plus the customer will love it. I never really ran into a issue with a cart being wet from power washing. Thanks for your videos
I'd love to wash carts before I work on them but its just not practical. There are some people that absolutely do not want their cart washed.
With the alike keys in my G2 someone took my cart for a ride. I installed a secret kill switch, in that cct, works good 😌
I just acquired a new to me G16A and I am having a heck of a time getting it started! well I came across your video and got some great tips but like your video here, battery has lots of charge, no power as t the fuse holder on either side but unlike yours when I bypass the solenoid it rolled a few times and now nothing again and I'm stumped! any advice would beso great! thank you! keep up the great work when this one is done I have a g14 to do behind it! haha
Love the videos. My gas G16 doesn't run smooth. When I hit the gas, it takes a while for the cart to go especially when using it when the engine is cold. Also when I go uphill I loss alot of power and just crawl going uphill. Any suggesstions?
Thank you. Helped me fix my cart. Had the exact problem. One of the foot switch leads was disconnected.
Glad it helped
where are they located? lol i have the same problem
Thanks for the video. It's might be what wrong with my g16. What's that cable called that you connected from positive better terminal to the switch? I'd like to test mine to see if it's good. Thanks again for the great video
I had a problem with my 2011 Yamaha gas cart. Thought it solenoid or battery. Battery was old anyway 5-6 yrs. New Battery, helped some. But after checking. Found it highly possible the gas pedal solenoid switch was hanging up and not kicking in on the solenoid . Before I spend $$ on switch I removed and rolled back the rubber boot and sprayed blaster and worked the switch for about 10 times. While I was working on that I also adjusted the gas cable there at the pedal about 2 rounds. To give a little quicker response when pressing the pedal. Tightened it up and replaced the stop switch. Everything at this point seems to be running much better. If the switch starts to hesitate again, I'll purchase a new one at that time. The gas pedal switch is exposed to the dust and dirt under the floor board. don't forget that if cart is not staring when pressing the pedal. listen for the solenoid to click. If no clicks or intermediate clicks, ck the pedal switch, too.
Kevin, i have an old Golf Club Cart. About 1993, not sure if you ca-n help me. Cart haș sat for 6 months due to lockdown, it was fine before, but now it works cine apart from the bleeping noise will not stop S-o ive hâd to disconnect the battery. Can you advise me?
Thanks for the videos on the g16 series. I have an older G16 that needs some TLC and am about to tackle valves, sparkplugs, carb, and pedal issues. Your videos are great. Any suggestions on panel removal to get easier access to the valves?
The valve cover should pop off without removing any other panels.
My switch was acting up, turned upside down and sprayed CRC 2-26 inside, been working fine.
I have a 2006 Carryall Clubcar and the rocker arms quit moving so would it be a timing chain or gear problem? Its a Kawasaki FE350D- S11 engine.
Thank you
Good info
On my way to diagnosis this same thing..thanks for the video..I mostly deal with club car but at least I have an idea on the pedal switch.
Yamahas are pretty simple compared to club car, with regards to electrical stuff. There aren't nearly as many switches in the circuit.
@@Kevinsgolfcarts agree..club car is " over engineered."
Kevin I have a G16 Yamaha. I just replaced my brushes in the starter generator. But I won’t shut off . It still runs at a low rpm and cannot turn off by the key😡. I not sure what else to check. I have check all the connections are good. Any help?
Please help I have a 19 98 EZGO with the Rubik's two cylinder engineit sprays fuel out the carb will not start backfires out the carb it's been sitting for 7 years and I don't know why did the timing jump because it still blows out the muffler where's it my valves please let me know as soon as possible
What battery would I need for my g22 yamaha gas
my G16A cranks and runs for about 300 ft dies stops firing spark plug then will not start until next day then same thing any ideas coil or cdi box?
Hi Kevin, Wondering if you recommend setting up these engines to idle? My G16 dies too easily unless I feather the gas pedal. Appreciate your input and the helpful videos!
Golf carts are setup to start and run from the gas pedal. The primary clutch isn't setup on these for an idle state so they end up grabbing the belt and wearing it out in one spot. I'm not sure what you mean by it dies too early.
Same issue on a 93 DS. Any advice?
Could a stop switch cause the starter generator to barley turn? I have a new starter generator and voltage regulator and the other day it wouldn't start. The starter generator barely moves new battery last year and it has plenty of voltage. Love your videos
thank you for the wonderful repair videos, Kevin... I can't find a relevant vid so I will ask you here; can the YAMAHA J42-85590-01-00 CDI CONTROL UNIT kill the entire electrics in a Yamaha G16A gas cart? the local mechanic said it was actually the brake light switch/brake light timer...? cart died after a stop and would not run again so pushed it home... battery tests out good/load test good... was attempting to depress the accelerator pedal to listen for solenoid clicks and saw a spark & heard crackle... only thing near on wall was this unit... removed, checked for continuity, reinstalled... lights and all electrics worked until I again depressed the gas pedal and spark/crackle, no juice... seems that after resting for a bit, the circuit is restored but again fails with each use... this is a rather expensive item so I ask, is there any way to test for proper function before purchasing a new one??? thank you for your time and expertise...
Your obviously a cart guy. I’m not. I just bought a g14 for my in-laws. Got a really good deal. I’m told ther not the most desirable. But it’s got all the xtras. Done already. Nice roof/wheels/tires/lift/ seats armrest package. My question is. How hard is it to swap engine for a 24hp Honda?
Kevin have you ever repaired the driven clutch input bearings on a 1990 marathon rear differential?
Depends on which rear it is. EZGO was on drugs between 88-91 so all of those years are different, depending on the actual model code. Otherwise, those are pretty easy to repair. Best thing would be to remove the rear from the cart and disassemble it.
@@Kevinsgolfcarts any idea why my 93 CC DS won’t idle and runs hot? New carb, pump, plug, filters, blew out fuel pick up tube, filter, and no idle. It takes a few pumps on the pedal to keep her running.
Did you get OEM switch or after market? If so, where did u get it. Thanks again
At the time, it was an aftermarket switch (I don't buy from Amazon or eBay for parts).
just brought mine home today same year same problem 😢
Are the 1998 G16 good overall gas carts? One is for sale local 1800 gas in good condition
Yamaha carts, overall are good. G16-G22 are my favorite.
Will the stop switch also keep the cart from shutting off completely if it’s faulty?
Yes, that is a possibility. These switches rarely fail, but like anything else, they do. The cart not shutting off when you release the pedal could be a few different things. If the engine continues to crank but isn't actually firing the spark plug, that could be the solenoid sticking. If the engine is cranking and running, similarly to a very low idle, that could be a stuck stop switch or a bad ground. These engines use magneto ignition. They short the ignition system to ground in order to kill spark. You can check this by unplugging the spark plug wire and plugging in a spare spark plug. Just let it rest on top of the engine near a metal component. Crank the engine using the pedal and watch for spark. Let it rotate for a few seconds and release the pedal. If the spark stops when you release the pedal, then you may have a stuck solenoid. If spark keeps going while the engine is slowing down, there is an issue closing to ground. You can check the stop switch by unplugging it and using a ohm meter to check continuity. The connector is under the floor. If that checks out, then the ground wire on the ignition coil may have come off or is broken. You will have to remove the engine cover to check that. I've had the ground wire connector fail causing the ground circuit to no longer function.
Got a old 80s Yamaha G1 run good but battery won’t stay charged any ideas were I should start
If its not staying charged while driving, the starter/generator or voltage regulator are bad.
where’s the fuse located?? same problem. out of the blue pulled forward for a three point turn reverse and it shut down had to push it
There is a fuse located in the harness near the battery or under the black cover above the battery. It should be a 10A fuse. If it keeps blowing, then the solenoid needs to be replaced.
Not sure you will answer my question but I have a fuel issue. I'm not getting any gas from the tank to the fuel pump (replaced fuel pump with a new one) still no fuel. Yamaha G22 if that helps
You have to prime the new fuel pumps. You may also have a tiny vacuum leak. Make sure the siphon tube is still attached inside the tank. If that came off, nothing will be pumped from the tank.
Hi Kevin, what would be the quick simple diagnostic test to test foot pedal switch? Over other potential issues? ie how can I quickly rule in/out the FPS? With key in on position and pedal depressed motor wont crank over! Apparently it could be many things, fuses, bad connections, solenoid, relays, starter, battery etc etc etc... but I want to rule out the FPS first, what test would I do to confirm it's a fault with the pedal switch? Appreciate your feedback!!
Using a multi meter on ohms to check continuity across the pins is the only sure way to test it. The switch has 2 positions. 2 pins are closed when pressed and 2 pins are closed when released. You could check the small terminals of the solenoid for 12v when the pedal is pressed. If there is 12v at the solenoid then the solenoid is probably bad if its not closing. If its closing and 12v is passing to the starter/generator, the brushes may be wore out in the starter/generator.
@@Kevinsgolfcarts Update!! - Took the buggy to a mate who(like you) is cluey with these buggies and it turned out to be the battery, which surprised me because when i tested it (after charging over night) it read 14.6 volts, so I assumed the battery was fine until he asked me if it had been load tested(I had no idea what a load test was), he load tested it and it was faulty! Dropped in a new battery, problem solved! I've now learnt to never assumed the battery is ok just based on the voltage readings! Thanks for your feedback also!! Cheers..
Yo Kevin,.....would you mind to explain what it means to "dick with something"??? hahahahaha!!!!🤣😂
LOL, to mess with it. "Don't dick with the governor."
Kevin, I just replaced my starter generator on my G16, and now my battery drains every time I drive it. Even just to the end of the driveway. I trickle charged the battery all day and took the family out for a ride and once I stopped, it wouldn’t start again. Walked back and got my truck and jumped the cart. But I’m stumped. The old starter generator didn’t drain my battery. Only replaced it because armature ground broke off. Any ideas?
Was it the same starter generator brand or did you just buy a whole new one? Also it’s been a month so you’ve might have figured it out
Thanks
No problem
What is the part # of that switch
My belt keeps slipping on my club car ds do I just need to tighten the belt?
Adjust the belt. They stretch over time. If its an older belt with cracks, then replace it.
How hard is it to replace
What can cause starter generator on a club car spinning kind of slow
Weak battery, bad connections, bad windings in the starter/generator, bad brushes, failing solenoid.
Kevin I have 1997 G16 continuing running after shut off the car,engine keep running,I replace key switch,stop switch ,ignition relay and keep doing same thing,what else I need to do,I really don’t know what to do
The ground wire coming from the ignition coil either has come off the coil or is broken.
I have the same problem but it started after replacing the starter generator. I can shut engine off by disconnecting the 2 wire harness on s/g. Same coil issue, or possible bad s/g?
Yamaha carts shut down by shorting the ignition coil to ground when you release the accelerator pedal. If the engine continues to run when the accelerator pedal is release, 1: the accelerator pedal is not fully retracting causing the accelerator pedal switch to stay engaged, 2: the ground wire coming from the coil is disconnected from the coil, 2 pin connector coming from the lower front of the engine is broke, corroded or disconnected, 3: the stop switch relay is faulty or 4: there is a bad connection to ground somewhere in the stop circuit. If you search for a wire diagram for your year make and model, you should be able to follow the wires and check each connection. You will have to remove the blower cover from the engine to inspect the ignition coil ground wire.
My 06’ G22. Starter good. New selonoid. If you by pass it cart will run. I saw this video and installed new stop switch. Still won’t start
Surprised you didn't check the pedal switch in the first place Kevin, particularly after finding the connector plug/socket looked OK.
This switch rarely fails. It is a well over-engineered part. Having worked on many Yamaha carts, I have changed 2 of these in 10 years. Intermittent issues are one of the hardest things to track down, especially in the electrical systems.
@@Kevinsgolfcarts Indeed, I can testify to that!
When i tested the positive to positive on my G16 it started up when I pressed the pedal it started right up.
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They are even questionable right now. UPS, at least for me, has been the most reliable.
THANKS THAT WAS MY ISSUE TOATALLY
Hey friend
Would u like to make a review video of golf carts lights? Pls feel free to contact me.
it took me years to figure out that pannel was therebut my dumb self also did a whole engine swap for a no crank only to find out while removing the oem wiring harness that it was nothing more than the fuse🤦♂️
My golf cart is a violation of all environmental and safety standards. It's a 1977 harley Davidson so it's a blue smoker. It's not oil injected so you half to mix the gas before you put it in the tank (if you have a junk harley Davidson golf cart laying around then can u sell/give me the arm rest/hip restraints (mine are missing
I had a few of them for a while. They are hard to to come by all complete.
Where are ya
I'm right here!
@@Kevinsgolfcartsjust making sure your all good. miss your videos.
I miss making them. Our season is beginning to start now so videos will be starting real soon. I really appreciate your concern!
Hey Kevin I have a 2018 ezgo valor with a Kawasaki motor. When you mash the gas pedal it spins but you have to back off the pedal or play with it before it fires and runs or just hold it down for about 5 or six seconds before it will run . Is there anything I can look at are replace to get a quicker start out of this cart ?
Just today I foind that our 1999 G16A will not shut off. That's right will NOT shut off. Would you be willing to point me in the right direction? I can get it to shut off if the brake is applied and held down and you "punch" the gas pedal quickly - it will usually quit. I bet this never happens anywhere in the world. GD thing is possessed.
Solenoid stuck
@@terryeaster7421 I replaced the foot switch and the solenoid. Maybe if I "guess" and throw some more parts at it I might by some chance get it right. Still won't shut off. Maybe I will through that $150.00 start/stop relay at it. What are your thoughts?
@@davidm2645 Im just saying , It happened to me when I put an aftermarket solenoid. I would have to see a schematic and trace it down with a test light. If that 150.00 relay is stuck, the motor should quit when you unplug it
@@terryeaster7421 Thank you for the good advise. I also herd that if the voltage regulator is bad it can back feed to the ignition side and that will cause the same symptom. I will try the relay test as you mentioned.