If - Janet Jackson - RAW Multitrack and Stems Reaction
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Midnight Mixes with Broden Minogue.
61 If - Janet Jackson
Midnight Mixes (originally pre-recorded 01 August 2022)
Music is used as a dissection for educational purposes under Fair Use Laws.
I believe this to be one of the best pop songs ever made. Very unique.
My god, the way Jam & Lewis sampled is otherworldly. and this track has them sampling their work with Janet from other albums (sounds like Rhythm Nation) and this album (Throb, on Janet)... This song is such an incredible mash up of genres. You wouldn't think it'd work, but with their mastery, it does.
Really would love if he dissected Throb. So many elements to that song
I really like this song but to me there was just a lot of ambient sounds coming from the drums and guitars. Never would've guessed Throb was sampled. To think it's a track from the same album.
This is so cool!!! Amazing to hear all of that. The sounds you hear between 27:34 and 29:19 are elements of Janet’s signature sound. You can hear them on Nasty from control and all thru out many of the tracks on Rhythm Nation. It’s something the fans love to hear (I know I do)
Sampling from their own songs is one of my favorite techniques from Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. They do this a lot and the way they use those samples is so unique. Something was definitely in the water in Minneapolis.
This gives me an even bigger appreciation for Jam & Lewis as producers along with Janet. The amount of time and creativity they put into the music. This has always been one of my favorite Janet songs and I had no idea how many sounds and instruments it is made up of. And her harmonies are out of this world. Thanks for sharing. 😀
Janet, Jam, & Lewis are truly the dream team. They have a great production ear and Janet has a great ear for harmonies ❤️🙌🏾
One of my all-time favorite songs! 💖
That's so cool , the production of jam and lewis and Janet's harmonies and vocals are magic!!! So impressing and so amazing ❤
25:21 is 🔥It reminds me a bit of the choral synth used in West End Girls by PSB.
Second time watching...and just now I realized you shouted me out. THANKS MAN
Thank you for doing this. This song is genius all the way through. Loop number 4 is really clever. My ear never caught that.
I love this. “If” is one of my favourite songs, I loved it the moment I heard it back in 1993. You’ve brought back so many good memories. THANK YOU. Do more Janet. X
As a massive geek, check out this link. It’s where they got the loop for 12:05
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28:33...It's a feeling. If one does have the "feeling" they sure would not choose these sounds. Jimmy and Terry just had the "feeling". Modern day producers really should study old pros like them to learn what it takes to move people.
Love these dissections can you do Janet Jackson Love Will Never Do next...I think ull enjoy the arrangement.& please make sure u include the high note @ the end of her lead vocals 😍
The background vocals on that one are one of her best!
I love that the remix brings out the background vocals to the forefront
These dissections really help me as a recording artist! Especially when you dissect a lot of my fav singers. Love this content!
thats so lovely to hear. thank you so much. its so refreshing to hear some of these massive hits and realise that we are just human too and we can create something great. i know you will!
AMAZING. Especially hearing the isolated live vocal
The chorus has so many voices, I love this song.
Amazing to hear the MTV Music Awards track! She sang it here, in studio with proper processing and then lip-synced her performance on the show.
Loop 1 was used by Bobby Brown also for "On Our Own". Also, the guitar solo is so raw and crazy! Miss music having crazy guitar solos in it.
Most definitely 100% On Our Own, I think of that song every time I hear that loop!
19:15 I need that Theremin track. It's speaks to my soul! It's who I was as a 13yo in 93'.
Thank you!!! That was fantastic. One of my all time favorite tracks. I loved hearing the loops section. I would never know those beats are in this. So cool.
Thank you so much! this was amazing! I love me some Janet!
Can you do Janet Jackson together again? The vocal takes are very interesting! You'd get a kick out of it! :-)
Thank you so much for this! Had to wait a whole day to listen to this because i wanted to hear through headphones and not through the phones.
It was absolutely amazing to hear the vocals, harmonies the beats and how they all come together! there were a some samples in there that i didn't know such as Rhythm Nation and Throb!
The sounds that you hear at the beginning of MTV Live vocals (pumping herself up part lol) are her doing the dance moves which would you then hear in the performance itself.
Some of the other sounds beats are more predominant in the remixes.
Thanks again!
I'd agree with Sean W that Love will never do should be the next Janet Stems reaction
Such a great song! Insanely cutting edge production back in 93. Love your channel :-)
I would love to see you do this for China Love. They sampled the main melody from a video game, I think that's just super cool.
I am loving where this has been growing to. This is just the beginning bro!
As a music lover who appreciates vocal stacks, please do a vid featuring anything that timberland and brandy did together! Annnnd as a bonus check out Jacob Collier feat jojo it don’t matter
You’re welcome lol
You brought me back to life with this one!!!!!
I always knew there were some unique harmony chords in here but it was very insightful to finally hear them so clearly
So glad you liked it Heather. Thanks so much for watching this series. :)
@@luffegun I'm loving all these so much!! It reminds me how I used to try to replicate my favorite songs when I was a kid with a small electronic keyboard and a couple tape players and blank cassettes. I'd play one instrument line on the keyboard with a sound that was as close to the original as I could find and record it on the cassette, then rewind the tape and play it back while playing the next instrument , on the keyboard, along with my previous recording and have a second tape player record that. I went back and forth playing as many layers as I could until the air space was too distracting....if only I had a Daw back in 95' 🤣
@@Mrs.blt84 super resourceful! do you still record? love to hear some stuff!
@@luffegun I do😁 on my channel I have uploaded some fun little “reimagined’ versions of some Mariah Carey songs that I created to practice mixing. I don’t my have original songs uploaded but I can email them to you. I’d be honored for you to listen to them!🤩
oh damn thats pretty impressive these are great! excellent work! please keep them coming? are you working on any original stuff?
Pumped already!!
This was cool, thanks for doing this. I'm kind of surprised with how "sloppy" some of the parts were, but then they all meld together. Some of them sounded like when I'm just experimenting with arranging an instrument, kind of "timid and unsure" in the performance and just trying things, lol (I know J & T don't like to quantize things, but still). I was also surprised with some of the vocals, as Janet is a stronger singer than they demonstrate (some parts sounded like when a singer doesn't know a song well yet and are still doing practice takes to get acquainted). Fwiw the loops probably wouldn't be panned like that in the mix because you'd have crazy phase issues in the kick drums of each loop (although they may have done some multiband imaging tricks to spread the higher frequencies while keeping the kicks down the center). I'm curious what they recorded this on, I'm assuming Neve to Tape? The raw tone sounds good, even on the 90's Nylon Guitar patch, super round and rich. Anyone know? Anyway, my two cents, would love to see you do more JJ tracks, subscribed, thank you Sir. 😎
love the way you doing you thang that sound 👌👌👌👌👌
My gawwdttt!!! 🎶🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Enjoying your song breakdowns. These tracks are very excessive which fits tone of song's message. Different but works together. Around minute 29, random instrumentation harks back to her song Nasty. Organ pads were really nice to listen to in isolation. I can see why samples are used - this song is a sample (excuse the lazy pun) of how to do it right - the sample is one of the most noticeable elements in the song and the moment you hear it you know it's the choreography segment with the chopping / box hands (not sure what that dance move is officially called). I must be a saint - I never noticed the throb track when listening to the final mix 😂 Janet's harmonies / vocals are amazing and thoughtfully put together here - maybe they could have been highlighted a bit more above the instruments but I think the excessive vibe is what was intended to fit with the message of the song and the layers of tracks.
WOW thanks for the really thoughtful comment Daphne. you really know your stuff! so glad you could get something out of the video and I'm glad you've been watching. if you could pick a Janet track for me to do next what would it be?
@@luffegun Thanks, interestingly, I discovered your channel from another Janet track you analysed - All For You. I think Janet has an amazing catalogue. These are some of the songs I'd be fascinated to here in more detail. They randomly span over different albums.
Velvet Rope
I Get Lonely
Rhythm Nation
Somebody To Call My Lover
Feedback
Alright
Love Will Never Do (Without You)
This Time
If you are able to get any of these, you can pick the next one for us all to enjoy. 😊 Look forward to the next mixes.
Yes, I heard 'Nasty' in that track as well! I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that😊
We used to call that dance "The Machine," I don't know if that's really what it's called tho 😂😎
Could you do “Honey” by Mariah Carey? It has multiple samples and her voice on it is amazing.
YESSSSS
Guitar is the Nylon guitar patch from the Roland JV 1080/2080
Hell yes! That is so cool! Thank you for the insight!!
Love this series
Thanks Mike!! Have you subscribed? There’s loads more to come!
Can you do Janet Jackson’s
I GET LONELY
THATS THE WAY LOVE GOES
GOT TIL ITS GONE
YOU
TOGETHER AGAIN
YOU WANT THIS
FEEDBACK
MADE FOR NOW
All of those multitracks are from the remix she did for the 1993 MTV Video Music Awards performance. Some of the multitracks elements arent in the original LP Version, Extended Remix or other official commercially released remixes. You're correct. She redid the vocals for the live performance. The live remix is only available on a limited edition 2CD set. Would love to have it without audience screams. Does any of your multitracks include the slowed down version of her performance???
could you do fourth of july by mariah? the background vocals are INSANE on that one
To my knowledge, the guitar is really done on keyboard. Jimmy Jam said so himself.
He sure did.
🤣🤣 @31:57 The woman groaning is also from Janet's song "throb" it's just slowed down... fun fact, "throb" on the same album that "if" is on, so I guess they finished throb first?! LOL
I wonder if it is just a vocal sample they used while making the record. They did stuff like this on the RN album too, borrowing parts from Control. If was one of the first tunes recorded on the album I believe. Janet wrote this song in a meeting room at Virgin Records by herself on a notepad apparently.
46:10 omg I’m laughing so hard haha
Hahahah sometimes I don’t realise what I’m saying til it’s too late! Hahah thanks for watching the video this far in
22:31 best part 😄
I have no idea how to use LOGIC hahah
That guitar at 19.40 🤯
The “THROB” sample is on here???
@40:02 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Genuine question are these multi tracks available to buy somewhere? Not only if but all the songs u have posted in the channel thx soo much!!
Not necessarily. There are some specific communities which share them but I don’t think it’s legal to straight up sell someone’s tracks for cash. I’m lucky for 2 reasons I don’t make anything off this channel not probably ever will and I’m using slithers of individual instruments over the course of 30 to 60 mins to creat a brand new piece of content based on my reaction to a subject. Great question!
Complete newbie here and totally amateur (so apologies if this is a naive question). How did you get the multitrack stuff to open (i.e. did you open a file from a CD and it came like that or did you have to go through and isolate the stuff). In other words, is there an "easy" way to just open a file (CD, MP3, etc.) and see the bits and pieces?
Not at all Ryan! Great question. I have access to the multitracks files which come in a few different forms depending on the source or intended use.
They will come as either multiple mono audio files all exactly the same length and they just drop into my recording/mixing software in this case Logic on Mac. Sometimes I get the actual ProTools session files and have to convert them from my old hackintosh running Protools 10 or 11 and sometimes I get bounced stereo stems (stems meaning STEREO MIXES and also deriving the tree branch analogy from this) if they come in that stem form then the session I have normally was intended for DJ remix versions or are sent out to other artists on those labels to create mashups or alternate mixes of the song.
I’d love it if they were all original full sessions but sometimes you have to take what you can get. I’ve used contacts from my time on the industry and a few other means to get these and they are harder and harder to come by. Probably of my own doing as I’ve done more of these types of videos than anyone else and I’m sure someone has tightened the belt on their availability due to the sheer volume of copyright claims I have had from the major labels on these videos haha. But hey, Here we are talking about a frankly quite old song again so for my money that is a good thing. Thanks so much for watching Ryan. Much appreciated dude!
@@luffegun Thanks!!
I believe a harpsichord was used!
Any downloads of your version available?
Bro--although it has some of the nuances if real Guitar…..Thas Key Tar-MIDI. Nonetheless… JAM AND LEWIS ARE THE ISH!❤️❤️❤️
Janet wasn't on Jam?
i must have meant Scream. i always confused those two songs. but also. it had a bit of a JAM vibe in this song.
Janet DID NOT sing "JAM" with Michael by the way.
Do Prince's "Come", his best-ever song
the mtv live track sounds like her 1993 vmas performance. meaning that she most likely lip synched
She didn’t lip sync that performance
@@ikexbankai i'm 99% sure she did. It's very easy to tell and I can give more reasons why it might've been lipped than reasons why it might've been live. It sounded lipped and this "mtv live" track is the exact same as her performance. The breathing and everything. What else would it have been used for? But she ate the performance up and still is my fav artist :)
You should do janet jackson's would you mind
Next song from Janet : Doesn’t really matter please
and I think you might have the samples for "Throb" not "If"
Throb was definitely there. I was confused thinking maybe they threw it in "if".
Where do you get these from?
Can you please do Fantasy by Mariah Carey?
Where are you getting these raw tracks?I'm sure Janet would not be pleased with her deconstructed vocals for everyone to listen to. She presented one piece of art. This shouldn't be happening..
The copyright owners are aware of these videos and I have been cleared of any infringement. Only Janet can speak for Janet. I bet she would be pleased that more people are taking interest in her song from many years ago.
@@luffegun you did a very good job , I always knew that from Janet Jackson. She understands voices while writing a song which helps her create great harmonies
I think it's great to hear the construction of the song in its bits and pieces, not just the finished product. Some of the sounds are just out of this world and helps you to appreciate the song even more!