Absolut waste of money. Want to get fast? Sub 4K bike and invest in a smart coach, a gym, a training cave. Anything but this absolute unjustified piece of marketing. Want to pass overweight people on 15k bikes? Train hard and invest in yourself.
The amazing thing about the silly pricing of Taiwanese made CF cookie cutter bikes like this is it's not even custom. A cheap sub $500 cost frameset with some middling components being sold for as much or more than a quality motorbike. Just comical the stupidity of some bicycle consumers. 🙂
Obviously the rider comes into it but if you had the same rider on all three bikes then one would be quicker than the others. Maybe we should do a video to find out 🧐
Please do!! Im between the aforementioned road bikes and rode a SuperSix EVO today. It was great even in lowest 105 spec. But before I drop and $, I’d love to know which is fastest: Super 6, System6, SL7/8, Madone SLR, Propel, TeamMachine, Aeroad CF SLX 8, S5, Foil RC, etc. How about a shootout in mid spec (affordable)?
Looks great. Having to travel at 28mph to save 4watts over an SL7 is irrelevant to the vast majority of customers though, they need to stop with these ridiculous watt saving speeds.
I think the onus should be on the consumers to stop spending money on race bikes. If these were cars it would be people buying F1 cars and complaining they cost too much. There are still very simple, time honored and relatively inexpensive road bikes that exist. They won’t get you any social media clout or Bike Radar any likes or subscribes so people don’t want them and makers don’t advertise them as richly. There is still a place for saving 4 watts and for that reason such a bike exists.
Why stopping? In few years time we will have just to brake as going too fast without even pedalling...faster, lighter, more rigid, more aero, more Watts saving....more boring and annoying!!!
The new bike looks so much better! I have never liked the old shallow head tube and deep aero spacers combination, the seattube and seat stays juncktion is also much better, doesnt look like an afterthough. The whole packedge is cohesive now. GG Cannondale.
As far as BEAUTY is concerned this new Cannondale LAB71 (in burgundy fade) is the absolute pinnacle of bike deliciousness! I would buy it just for the paint job and the MOMO bars! And, I love hew hidden thru axel!
Is it just me, or do all the cycling journalists seem bored of talking about bikes? Feels like we're all going through the motions and skirting around the issue that all new road bikes are completely unaffordable.
Excellent review!! I've been looking at the *new SuperSix for a while now. I can't justify the Lab71 (iWish) but the Hi-Mod 2 may just work for me, 🙂 #RobbArmstrong
For 15k, I should get a completely customized bike, color of my choice, components, wheels, pedals, power meter, hub motor, and my choice of computers. All included. The only thing Cannondale did was regurgitate the same advertising that’s led to these idiotic prices in the first place. Three of the top 4, Tadej in 2021 coming in 2nd, recorded average speeds in the TdF came from Lance Armstrong. His Madone then costs half of what the Madone costs now. And it was a lighter bike then. All this “aero/compliance/climbing” geometry didn’t exist. One bike did it all, until the manufacturers decided they needed to make more money by creating bike niches. Then content creators assisted by doubling down in a sense by validating this BS with reviews. This bike goes no faster than the bike next to it, with the lone difference being how long it takes to get up to speed. And that has a LOT to do with wheel choice. No thanks. I’ll take a medium Canyon Aeroad, weighing 17.5lbs, for $6500, and I’ll go just as fast as my legs will carry me. Remember everyone, pros don’t pick their bikes, nor do they pay for them.
The DI2 battery compartment is a huge step forward in terms of practicality. I recently upgraded my Evo3 to DI2 - what a headache. They should have added internal channels for the brake hoses so you can just push them in without fiddly magnet action
@@pilikiosuafoa1727 basic marketing. You want to see how far people are willing to go for your high end model. What cannondale doesn’t realize is - this is how you ruin your brand. It’s not about the price, it’s just there is no big jump in quality after about 4-5k for a bike. So if someone buys this, they think the price justifies something, but it doesn’t and it isn’t and cyclists know this. Therefore - pot-belly bankers, this is your weapon of choice! Don’t forget the aero socks.
@@pilikiosuafoa1727 It's like the PC GPU prices. During lockdown everybody wanted bikes and Gpus. So therefore they could charge anything they wanted and they all got sold (including the crypto miners for gpus) now that the market has corrected they still want the huge margins. In fact 2018 I got a lovely Spec Roubaix for 2k (105 hydro disc's) that bike now is nearly 5k (new version) I know it's been done to death but for £12k you could buy a nice 2nd hand car! Or a very nice motorbike. Or even a year's worth of energy 😂. But it's always worth having a ridiculous priced model as some fucker will buy it.
Going to start by saying i can't afford the cheapest supersix. When looking at bikes recently i ruled out cannondale because of proprietary parts, so it's nice to see them doing something compatible with standard components. Just hope that steerer doesn't backfire.
@@yonglingng5640 I'm more concerned about snapping than bearing issues. Whilst triangles are generally stronger axially than cylinders, they're weaker torsionally. Whilst I have no evidence to say it will fail, with the number of internal routing solutions needing recalls in recent years I want to see hard evidence this has been tested thoroughly.
Beware: Read Cannondale’s fine print in their Limited Warranty Policy. They may use it against you for their best interest. My $5000.000 carbon fiber frame Jekyll broke after six years of use. Cannondale never made a finding that it was due to use or abuse. A hairline crack formed at a weak point in the frame. The bike was sold to me with a lifetime warranty on the frame. The best offer Cannondale gave me, under their lifetime warranty, was 20% off of retail - yes, that's right 20% off of retail. I fought them on it over a two month period and lost. So, I am now stuck with a 34lb paperweight. Cannondale has what I feel is the worse warranty in the bike business. If you do purchase a Cannondale bike and something goes wrong, know that they probably will not work with you at any level in your best interest. In my opinion, Cannondale does not value you as a customer, they only value your money. This has been my experience.
@@Cavecreekgoat My dealer told me the same thing when they sold me the Jekyll - A Lifetime Warranty On The Frame, You Will Never Have To Worry. Unfortunately, that statement was fiction as is Cannonade's Warranty.
I think the bike is much better. I'm just sorry that there are cyclists who pay so much for the bike. if no one bought it, they lowered the prices... it's really a shame.
Had I been Cannondale management I would’ve been concerned by all the comments here. We’re all bicycle enthusiasts watching this and we seem to unanimously disapprove. The occasional Buzz words from the presenter does nothing to remedy this it seems..
Hey does this bike still have the steering stops? That Is honestly a reason for not buying it in the past since I’ve heard some peoples steerer section breaking parts of the frame .
I told the guy at the shop that I literally would hate the bike because it would need the entire roadway to turn around. He said no one turns the bars that far...I was like you have to be kidding me. I go to 90 degrees all the time when stopped. I would fall over with a steering stop.
Agree! Just test road one and listen to three reviews in a row that said “best kept secret.” Surprised to hear it by this reviewer though unless he was th first and the others copied him! He’s generally very good.
God I hate shit like this. You admit the geometry has barely changed, you didn't even have the new handlebar, it's only imperceptibly lighter than your model and is ostensibly the same bike, yet you just can't stop thinking about it?
It went together easily in less than an hour. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Make sure the front fork is forward or the pedals will hit the front tire. Tires are both a little soft so it needs air before I ride it. The rear wheel didn't come with a clamp regular bolts hold it on. The front had the clamp. No scratches out of box. Rims are a little off with a slight wobble. They could have spent more time with the spoke tool fixing the run out. So far out of the box I'm happy with it. I did replace the pedals with a nice aftermarket set. After riding it a bit my A$$ is a bit sore so I ordered another seat. Overall I'm nearly 60 and didn't ride a bike in 30 years. I like my new 29" Schwinn. It will be used for casual rides with my friend.
Don’t waste your money on this. Invest in a sub 4K bike and the other 11k in yourself: 5 years of gym membership + 5 years of pro coaching + 4.000 that you have left in whatever you choose (training) = faster cyclist. Not this garbage.
True. Rest of the money for maintenance, gym, coaching, etc. In our national race, a rider won the race ride a bike with china made 400usd non-uci cfrp frameset. Here we know all aero and price bullshite made by marketing shite. I am not encouraging people to buy such cheap frameset, at least sub 4k usd bike with Elves frameset is more than enough.
What’s Elves? The jelly doughnut singing sensation bike? Will Farrell’s proprietary brand? A no name out the back door Taiwanese manufacturer at off hours? The website tells nothing and has odd reading reviews.
Come on guys. This was just an excuse to ride in Gerona. I've got 2 himod from 2012 and 2015 and the last rim brake evo 2018. What happened to the bike industry. Leonard, you carry on with the copy and paste press release reviews.
what's with all the gaps between wheels and frame?! looks like a gravel bike. These guys need to look at Cervelo in order to learn how to make a real aero-bike
Eye watering costs ...Value for money NO ..i can purchase many new Honda motor cycles or scooters for a fraction of these over priced bikes one can also purchase many Alloy framed bikes for $ 1500 / $ 1700 which will last way longer than carbon and give its riders just the same level of enjoyment.
The better deal is the standard mod frame. Cost a lot less, weighs just a little more, but has the same frame design. I had a standard mod and then bought a high mod later. I honestly didn't see a difference in the ride quality and the weight difference wasn't really noticeable either.
Please get a competent reviewer who can actually take advantage of the bike's stiffness, lightness and aero features to create a real review and not someone who just reads back the sales brochure after taking a superbike on leisure rides.
Are you a fan of this club-ride staple? Let us know what you think of the latest SuperSix in the comments 👇
Always.
Absolut waste of money. Want to get fast? Sub 4K bike and invest in a smart coach, a gym, a training cave. Anything but this absolute unjustified piece of marketing. Want to pass overweight people on 15k bikes? Train hard and invest in yourself.
@@a.k.1351 yeah - no shit - but I can have a f£&king nice bike if I want.
@@dominicbritt Price doesn’t define how nice a bike is and nobody said you can’t make a fool of yourself. Be my guest! Buy it.
@@a.k.1351 thanks for the advice fred
I wonder how this compares with similarly priced superbikes from other manufacturers, like Ducati and Kawasaki.
Just insane isn't it. Absolute robbery
The amazing thing about the silly pricing of Taiwanese made CF cookie cutter bikes like this is it's not even custom. A cheap sub $500 cost frameset with some middling components being sold for as much or more than a quality motorbike. Just comical the stupidity of some bicycle consumers. 🙂
Best comment of the year so far
This comment came from a motorcyclist.. Not a pedalcyclist 🤣🤣
@@rcg9573 not as comical as the insecurity of shome motorcycle consummers, feeling the need to comment on a bicycle related video though...
It's a good looking bike. The only thing that'll make it faster than an SL7 (or a Madone, or a Teammachine, or a TCR, etc) is the rider.
Obviously the rider comes into it but if you had the same rider on all three bikes then one would be quicker than the others. Maybe we should do a video to find out 🧐
Please do!! Im between the aforementioned road bikes and rode a SuperSix EVO today. It was great even in lowest 105 spec. But before I drop and $, I’d love to know which is fastest: Super 6, System6, SL7/8, Madone SLR, Propel, TeamMachine, Aeroad CF SLX 8, S5, Foil RC, etc. How about a shootout in mid spec (affordable)?
Looks great. Having to travel at 28mph to save 4watts over an SL7 is irrelevant to the vast majority of customers though, they need to stop with these ridiculous watt saving speeds.
I think the onus should be on the consumers to stop spending money on race bikes.
If these were cars it would be people buying F1 cars and complaining they cost too much.
There are still very simple, time honored and relatively inexpensive road bikes that exist. They won’t get you any social media clout or Bike Radar any likes or subscribes so people don’t want them and makers don’t advertise them as richly.
There is still a place for saving 4 watts and for that reason such a bike exists.
Why stopping? In few years time we will have just to brake as going too fast without even pedalling...faster, lighter, more rigid, more aero, more Watts saving....more boring and annoying!!!
The new bike looks so much better! I have never liked the old shallow head tube and deep aero spacers combination, the seattube and seat stays juncktion is also much better, doesnt look like an afterthough. The whole packedge is cohesive now. GG Cannondale.
As far as BEAUTY is concerned this new Cannondale LAB71 (in burgundy fade) is the absolute pinnacle of bike deliciousness! I would buy it just for the paint job and the MOMO bars! And, I love hew hidden thru axel!
Is it just me, or do all the cycling journalists seem bored of talking about bikes? Feels like we're all going through the motions and skirting around the issue that all new road bikes are completely unaffordable.
And completely the same.
Excellent review!! I've been looking at the *new SuperSix for a while now. I can't justify the Lab71 (iWish) but the Hi-Mod 2 may just work for me, 🙂
#RobbArmstrong
For 15k, I should get a completely customized bike, color of my choice, components, wheels, pedals, power meter, hub motor, and my choice of computers. All included.
The only thing Cannondale did was regurgitate the same advertising that’s led to these idiotic prices in the first place. Three of the top 4, Tadej in 2021 coming in 2nd, recorded average speeds in the TdF came from Lance Armstrong. His Madone then costs half of what the Madone costs now. And it was a lighter bike then. All this “aero/compliance/climbing” geometry didn’t exist. One bike did it all, until the manufacturers decided they needed to make more money by creating bike niches.
Then content creators assisted by doubling down in a sense by validating this BS with reviews. This bike goes no faster than the bike next to it, with the lone difference being how long it takes to get up to speed. And that has a LOT to do with wheel choice.
No thanks. I’ll take a medium Canyon Aeroad, weighing 17.5lbs, for $6500, and I’ll go just as fast as my legs will carry me.
Remember everyone, pros don’t pick their bikes, nor do they pay for them.
The DI2 battery compartment is a huge step forward in terms of practicality. I recently upgraded my Evo3 to DI2 - what a headache. They should have added internal channels for the brake hoses so you can just push them in without fiddly magnet action
Guided internal routing does add some weight, but I won't be mad to see it in a road frame (I've seen it in road forks).
They should invent a way to shift without a battery. 😅
Looking fit, Warren. Good to see you.
I'm sorry did they say flagship came out to be 15,000??? 😳😳
Its just getting more nuts year by year. Fucking bizarre
@@tbrowniscool it can't just be inflation right? Like what's going on here??
It's gonna cost Russia 750 million to replace their flagship ,this is a comparative bargain
@@pilikiosuafoa1727 basic marketing. You want to see how far people are willing to go for your high end model. What cannondale doesn’t realize is - this is how you ruin your brand. It’s not about the price, it’s just there is no big jump in quality after about 4-5k for a bike. So if someone buys this, they think the price justifies something, but it doesn’t and it isn’t and cyclists know this. Therefore - pot-belly bankers, this is your weapon of choice! Don’t forget the aero socks.
@@pilikiosuafoa1727 It's like the PC GPU prices. During lockdown everybody wanted bikes and Gpus. So therefore they could charge anything they wanted and they all got sold (including the crypto miners for gpus) now that the market has corrected they still want the huge margins. In fact 2018 I got a lovely Spec Roubaix for 2k (105 hydro disc's) that bike now is nearly 5k (new version)
I know it's been done to death but for £12k you could buy a nice 2nd hand car! Or a very nice motorbike. Or even a year's worth of energy 😂. But it's always worth having a ridiculous priced model as some fucker will buy it.
that oxblood model makes me want a road bike
Going to start by saying i can't afford the cheapest supersix.
When looking at bikes recently i ruled out cannondale because of proprietary parts, so it's nice to see them doing something compatible with standard components.
Just hope that steerer doesn't backfire.
Filler wedges need to be used so that the stem clamps a cylindrical structure instead of one with the cross section of a pizza slice.
@@yonglingng5640 I'm more concerned about snapping than bearing issues. Whilst triangles are generally stronger axially than cylinders, they're weaker torsionally.
Whilst I have no evidence to say it will fail, with the number of internal routing solutions needing recalls in recent years I want to see hard evidence this has been tested thoroughly.
@@twatts4436 I'm just worried about clamping pressure distribution.
@@yonglingng5640 fair!
Beware: Read Cannondale’s fine print in their Limited Warranty Policy. They may use it against you for their best interest. My $5000.000 carbon fiber frame Jekyll broke after six years of use. Cannondale never made a finding that it was due to use or abuse. A hairline crack formed at a weak point in the frame. The bike was sold to me with a lifetime warranty on the frame. The best offer Cannondale gave me, under their lifetime warranty, was 20% off of retail - yes, that's right 20% off of retail. I fought them on it over a two month period and lost. So, I am now stuck with a 34lb paperweight. Cannondale has what I feel is the worse warranty in the bike business. If you do purchase a Cannondale bike and something goes wrong, know that they probably will not work with you at any level in your best interest. In my opinion, Cannondale does not value you as a customer, they only value your money. This has been my experience.
My dealer told me the lifetime warranty was only for the original owner.
@@Cavecreekgoat My dealer told me the same thing when they sold me the Jekyll - A Lifetime Warranty On The Frame, You Will Never Have To Worry. Unfortunately, that statement was fiction as is Cannonade's Warranty.
@@65010 So what exactly did Cannondale say in order to refuse replacing your frame? That it was your fault? Or that there's no problem with it?
I would like to see this analysis on a bike most of us can afford - EVO1 or 2. Otherwise, I great review.
Heavy!!!!!!!
Yes!
how does the evo compare to the roubaix in comfort on rough roads if both have 700x28 tires?
Probably shouldn't compare an Evo to a Roubaix. The Roubaix is an endurance bike and should compared to the Synapse on the Cannondale side of things.
I hope they make a Supersix Gravel
I will buy a winspace instead ;)
Wise decision
So, Cannondale is actually saying:
For ALL these years, our marketing about bb30 has been full of shit.
"They lie by saying it for practicality instead of admitting that their proprietary components are trash." - From Hambini Bottom Bracket Fan Myself
Have been riding a number of BB30 Cannondale bikes for the last 8 years and never had any issues. Haters (like whiner Hambini) gonna hate regardless.
I think the bike is much better. I'm just sorry that there are cyclists who pay so much for the bike. if no one bought it, they lowered the prices... it's really a shame.
Had I been Cannondale management I would’ve been concerned by all the comments here. We’re all bicycle enthusiasts watching this and we seem to unanimously disapprove. The occasional Buzz words from the presenter does nothing to remedy this it seems..
imo.. these ARE major changes! Threaded BB, no more steerer stops (plenty cracked frames!), much better battery location!
Reviewer is bias for sure
Easily better looking than the last one.
Hey does this bike still have the steering stops? That Is honestly a reason for not buying it in the past since I’ve heard some peoples steerer section breaking parts of the frame .
what are you talking about? the new bike does not have the stops.
The new one doesn't.
I told the guy at the shop that I literally would hate the bike because it would need the entire roadway to turn around. He said no one turns the bars that far...I was like you have to be kidding me. I go to 90 degrees all the time when stopped. I would fall over with a steering stop.
Is it fast?
what about cannondale super six Evo Black Inc??? is not that's lighter???
I wonder how this would compare to a team machine??
is the 'worst kept secret' part of the marketing pitch? I've heard it like 3 times now
Agree! Just test road one and listen to three reviews in a row that said “best kept secret.” Surprised to hear it by this reviewer though unless he was th first and the others copied him! He’s generally very good.
How lightweight is it? Not the frame, but the whole package. The super six 105 di2 is 8.5kg so not a featherweight
He said it if you watched the video..7.25k with bottles and cages..His EVO 3, 7.85k
So over 0.5kg lighter and it feels indistinguishable from the outgoing model 🤔
God I hate shit like this. You admit the geometry has barely changed, you didn't even have the new handlebar, it's only imperceptibly lighter than your model and is ostensibly the same bike, yet you just can't stop thinking about it?
What do you think of the updated evo 3?
15k. ok, sure.
It went together easily in less than an hour. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Make sure the front fork is forward or the pedals will hit the front tire. Tires are both a little soft so it needs air before I ride it. The rear wheel didn't come with a clamp regular bolts hold it on. The front had the clamp. No scratches out of box. Rims are a little off with a slight wobble. They could have spent more time with the spoke tool fixing the run out. So far out of the box I'm happy with it. I did replace the pedals with a nice aftermarket set. After riding it a bit my A$$ is a bit sore so I ordered another seat. Overall I'm nearly 60 and didn't ride a bike in 30 years. I like my new 29" Schwinn. It will be used for casual rides with my friend.
I wonder how much they paid for the marketing
Sponsorships and marketing are pretty much the bulk of the cost in this bike.
It's the rider not the bike that makes a bike faster
Yeah. Spend all that time you had to at work making the $15k to buy the bike actually riding and that 4 watts will seem like a joke.
Ok Ok! Hold your horses! Now show me new CAAD 14 on rim brakes and I'm happy 😉🧐
I will have 2 at that price!!!.
Don’t waste your money on this. Invest in a sub 4K bike and the other 11k in yourself: 5 years of gym membership + 5 years of pro coaching + 4.000 that you have left in whatever you choose (training) = faster cyclist. Not this garbage.
True. Rest of the money for maintenance, gym, coaching, etc.
In our national race, a rider won the race ride a bike with china made 400usd non-uci cfrp frameset. Here we know all aero and price bullshite made by marketing shite.
I am not encouraging people to buy such cheap frameset, at least sub 4k usd bike with Elves frameset is more than enough.
Spot on
What’s Elves? The jelly doughnut singing sensation bike? Will Farrell’s proprietary brand? A no name out the back door Taiwanese manufacturer at off hours? The website tells nothing and has odd reading reviews.
Come on guys. This was just an excuse to ride in Gerona. I've got 2 himod from 2012 and 2015 and the last rim brake evo 2018. What happened to the bike industry. Leonard, you carry on with the copy and paste press release reviews.
Shilling for money 🤑💰
Those of us that loved bikes know the industry died during the pandemic.
As a 62cm rider, such a shame.
It's not the lightest ever Evo. Blatant lie.
What you expect from "independent" I mean shills media.
Cannondale needs to make a 40cm bike. All these companies 44cm bikes reach is to long for short people
what's with all the gaps between wheels and frame?! looks like a gravel bike. These guys need to look at Cervelo in order to learn how to make a real aero-bike
4-12 watts faster @ 45km/h 😅 no thanks unless you are a pro it doesnt make logic will stick to my bmc ALR 🔥
Eye watering costs ...Value for money NO ..i can purchase many new Honda motor cycles or scooters for a fraction of these over priced bikes one can also purchase many Alloy framed bikes for $ 1500 / $ 1700 which will last way longer than carbon and give its riders just the same level of enjoyment.
So many improvements, but none of them were in its looks. Still ungly generation after generation.
Who cares? Only the pros… and they don’t even buy there own bikes
At 6k, d rather buy 3 normal 1k bikes and take the £3k on a holiday
A visually dull looking bike for the ridiculous price tag!
Why do you talk so fast. The pace of this video is fast too. I cant keep up.
How is it any better than the previous model
Lol
The absence of the head tube-cracking steer stop already makes it much better than its predecessor.
Not as fast as my 1000 HP GOLF.
REGARDS FROM GERMANY. 😂❤🎉
...lost me at point five
A great bike if you're a very rich, pro-class bike racer. Which is like...0.001% of us? I kid! But I do wonder who buys these bikes.
The better deal is the standard mod frame. Cost a lot less, weighs just a little more, but has the same frame design. I had a standard mod and then bought a high mod later. I honestly didn't see a difference in the ride quality and the weight difference wasn't really noticeable either.
I’m waiting to see the 5k model that gets released in Dec.
In the netherlands they have a model with 105di2 carbonwheels carbon steer for 4500euro
Freds buy them
Is this guy really a cyclist??
"Cannondale? More like CrapNoDeal" - From Hambini Bottom Bracket Fan Myself.
Please get a competent reviewer who can actually take advantage of the bike's stiffness, lightness and aero features to create a real review and not someone who just reads back the sales brochure after taking a superbike on leisure rides.
The Wheelbase of the old Evo is so long, way to long to feel agile. Also it didnt want me to ride hard. I did not like it unfortionally.
I would rather get Cervelo Soloist. It's similar.
😴😴😴😴😴
Cannondale 💤 so boring and overpriced.
I paid $599 for a new Cannondale R500T in 1996. I promise that bike was more aesthetically pleasing that this thing. And that isn't saying much.
Bargain!
Can you slow down a bit. I cannot keep up with what you are saying 😢