One thing to note: You should not carry more than 30rnds in the Panther A and D and 22 rounds in the Panther F and G. Keeps your side ammo racks empty and therefore you survive more shots to the side.
@@coopersly38 Unless it's the T-35, or A1-E1 Independent, In the T-35 I usually carry 13 rounds of OF-350M as the primary ammo for the KT-28, and 13 rounds of BR-350A (MD-5 fuze) for as a secondary ammo type. And for the 54 rounds of BR-240 (27 for each auxiliary turret.) Also NEVER use the KT-28 against tanks with any sort of armor unless you have to. The 20-K cannons are way better. Set keybinds for the primary, secondaries, machine guns, all at once, and then find a different use for each function, believe me the added control will save your life under almost any circumstances. Trust me, don't risk your controller, don't risk your keyboard, and most importantly, don't risk your hair. It's not worth it.
I like how everyone says flank or stay far and away from close combat with German tanks around 6 BR. Its really great advice, especially when most of the time you have full german team and you need to capture points or you're getting small maps most of the times.
I personally wouldn’t recommend angling on the A I always find that the sides are much easier to pen for some reason. On the G and F I find it more useful.
I once hear a historian refer to the panther as a mix between heavy and medium tank, basically a very early attempt at the later mbt concept; trying to combine good protection, mobility and firing power into one tank
Wouldn't be a proper match on the Eastern Europe map without a massive clusterfuck of a logjam trying to cross the bridge near the spawnpoints. Surprised nobody ended up going in the river. :P
Great video. Made me give the Panthers a second chance. Spaded the A and almost through with the the F. Really enjoying my time. Now with the upcoming BR rebalance I will give the G a try. The abysmal reverse really makes you think about positioning... more than in a heavy even.
Love this video so much. Your new vids are different, and idk…just don’t hit like they used to. Absolutely eat up your content my dude, but there’s just something about your old stuff. You aren’t monotone, but it’s so easy to follow with your ease of communicating without having to force something funny or witty to say in the moment.
Especially for the Panther D an Panther 2 Try to use your outstanding killrange to compensate for the bad turret rotation rate! And another hint if you can no longer shoot in random close combat, tank hits! dont give up! if you have little ammunition with you you can score a lot with tanking hits!
I recently bought tiger h1 and the first panther I can't remember which is the version and I got into battle thinking That I have the best in the fckin lobby😂, then I searched on UA-cam to find some tips on how to play these 2 tanks and i found your videos, they have helped me but I am still trying to learn these tanks better.
The one thing I’ll say is I tend to carry a max of 16 shells. Iv found that’s usually plenty and it gets rid of most of your ammo racks. Just defend points for a bit if you need to reload ammo
The Panther G is in my experience the WORST panther. The mantlet just becomes a bigger weak spot, and the "extra turret armor" is only on the turret face around the mantlet. All at a higher BR than the others. The Panther F is the best sniper due to the turret armor and reload/range finder combo, since at range against the 85 and 76mm it is immune. The Panther A is the best aggressive panther and that mantlet can be trolly against even big guns. The Panther 2 is also a great aggressive tank but is let down by the turret traverse and turret armor is pretty easy to penetrate at the BR.
Being a british main i forget that the panther doesn't actually have a reverse gear, because S is my least pressed movement key due to playstyle and experience with things like the cromwell, love the tiger 1 tho
I LOVE the opening sequence! We drive like we are in tanks and got our license out of cracker jack box. I have to wonder what the hell we are thinking.
Can you make a guide on the allied medium tanks like M4 sherman or T-34-85 please, i struggle with them a lot because im not used to playing a tank with thin armor (compared to heavy tanks)
Great stuff, Tank. Currently I'm playing 4.7 BR but will be researching my first Panther next. I'm not looking forward to playing an un-upgraded Panther but it has to be done. Good advice about not thinking your Panther is invulnerable. I will try to keep this in mind.
@@MotivatedVergil111 Yes, I did. Have all of the Panthers now and fully upgraded. Great tanks but rarely play them. Normally playing lower BRs for fun.
the Panther 2 never should use the long 88. Right after the Panther D was rolled out, the russian anti tank rifle could go through its side. So they decided to stronger its armour and creating the Panther 2 which should replace the Panther 1. However, with adding sideskirts to the panther 1 his problem was solved with way less costs and so they cancel the panther 2.
i was killed by a BT-5 in my first game in the panther D. i didnt think he could pen my sides so i went for the IS-2. i killed the IS-2 but got racked by the BT-5 (not sure how, didnt think 45 mm had enough explosive filler to set off my ammo)
I wish they put the Panther f at 6.0 and moved the G to 5.7. I love the look of the G but it doesn't justify moving my whole lineup to 6.0. Additionally, the F had a rangefinder 🤔
Why do F and II panther are best armored? They removed very useful gun manlet, that was overlapping with front turret plate, increasing armor two times and bugging shells.
Can't stereotype like that. I would say that I'm pretty decent at the game. Many german mains are very good. If you think that this is correct to stereotype, I could pull up clips of any nation player being dumb, or just not noticing something obvious.
I just started maining German tanks because I am a bit of a wehraboo and Britain has insane repair costs. The meme is real. I thought facing snipers was annoying. What's way more annoying is losing an easy match because literally your whole team decided they wonna be snipers
After you've cut ammo, do and xray and see the placement... most in the side sponson is on the driver's side, will two rds by the driver's head. I pointed this out on forum some time ago, last time I check there was no answer to obvious question: Who would be stupid enough to do that? It just ensures if you get penned behind the radio operator or driver you have ammo explode... ooooh, gained so much cutting ammo, right?
I struggle a lot with the Panther D and VK3002. The VK is nice because it’s pretty fast, but the cannon on both tanks feels very anemic. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve side-shot the turret or under the tracks on an IS or M6 only to get smoked 5 seconds later when said tank traverses and shoots me before I can reload. And at 5.3, virtually every Russian tank and decent number of American tanks can easily front pen the glacial and turret.
I disagree on the F model having a better turret. It has a massive flat turret face on both sides of the gun that is easily penned by something like a stabilized 76mm Sherman, let alone any higher calibre like a Russian 85mm or US 90mm. Whereas with the A or G variant the gun mantlet that spans the majority of the turret face is a trolly piece of *** that will most likely volumetrically eat a 76mm shell, and leave you unscathed.
Hey do you reckon you could do a comprehensive guide of the shermans im struggling with them and im already wounded by the fact that the tiger isn't as good as the stories say
@@WavyLettuce not with these repair costs they increased the repair costs on the tiger so I cant play for fun without getting scared that I am going to die and have to deal with the repair costs
Tiger is good but I would go with the VK, it is faster then the other panthers and a good gun, only down side is less armor but won’t matter if you stay long range.
forgot some weaknesses: no reverse gear, very low HE filler in shell, often leaving enemies alive if only hit in turret, bad turret traverse and elevation speed, bad roof armor, dying to 50 cal and 20mm planes,
All rank 4 Panthers suk. You literally cannot reliably roll with them with other rank 4 stuff because US and USSR get vehicles that are literally impervious to Panthers. The VK is a very special case, I would bring it to battle at up to 6.7 if it had a faster turret with same performance, unlike any other Panther. Also, rank 4 Panther repair costs are criminal.
I would like to point out if you're at 5.3 germany and the only panther you have is the D variant, you will be uptiered to 6.3+ NO EXCEPTIONS. So all the advice he gives in this video regarding how to play in uptiers must be adhered to. You cant play at 5.3 germany at 5.3. It will always always always send you on up to 6.3. Ive had the panther D for weeks and have yet to get matched at 5.3 or lower. Its always 6.3.
Phew, I thought I was the only one 😭. It’s so annoying to just get constant IS2’s yeeted against your tank. Same goes for Jumbo’s although easier to kill.
I'm not a fan of the panther. It's to slow. The turret speed is shite. I have had quite a few shots bounce of the turret but it's not a tank I enjoy using.
“I don’t expect any more panthers to be added to the game….” *VK30.01 enters the picture*
One thing to note: You should not carry more than 30rnds in the Panther A and D and 22 rounds in the Panther F and G. Keeps your side ammo racks empty and therefore you survive more shots to the side.
Works on tiger 2 h as well i take like 22 rounds on it so theres only ammo in the back of the turret
you are right sir i did it what you said i survive the lots of hits on me.. before i did not did it i got 1 shot on it thank you so much
👎😡Panther G is my biggest love ❤. i got 9kills 0 death . don't use it.dont comment it . you don't suit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you should not carry more than 20 rounds in ANY TANKS
@@coopersly38 Unless it's the T-35, or A1-E1 Independent, In the T-35 I usually carry 13 rounds of OF-350M as the primary ammo for the KT-28, and 13 rounds of BR-350A (MD-5 fuze) for as a secondary ammo type. And for the 54 rounds of BR-240 (27 for each auxiliary turret.) Also NEVER use the KT-28 against tanks with any sort of armor unless you have to. The 20-K cannons are way better. Set keybinds for the primary, secondaries, machine guns, all at once, and then find a different use for each function, believe me the added control will save your life under almost any circumstances. Trust me, don't risk your controller, don't risk your keyboard, and most importantly, don't risk your hair. It's not worth it.
I like how everyone says flank or stay far and away from close combat with German tanks around 6 BR. Its really great advice, especially when most of the time you have full german team and you need to capture points or you're getting small maps most of the times.
Legit, and other players get sooo mad when you dont rush straight into urban combat with half enemy team against your Tiger II
I personally wouldn’t recommend angling on the A I always find that the sides are much easier to pen for some reason. On the G and F I find it more useful.
Extra 10 mm on the latter
@@Suo_kongque yep most definitely thinner but also I feel the actual angling on the sides of the Panther D and A are worse than the G and F.
if you do a small angle the side armor can be over 170mm but dont angle at a 45 degree or large angle just at a small degree
Man, isn't this Kitty the most beautiful tank ever ??? What a gorgeous beauty of a beast.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that appreciates the beauty of this beast.
I once hear a historian refer to the panther as a mix between heavy and medium tank, basically a very early attempt at the later mbt concept; trying to combine good protection, mobility and firing power into one tank
Wouldn't be a proper match on the Eastern Europe map without a massive clusterfuck of a logjam trying to cross the bridge near the spawnpoints. Surprised nobody ended up going in the river. :P
German main moment
Now they added the VK 3002 M prototype which is a fast fragile panther
Great video. Made me give the Panthers a second chance. Spaded the A and almost through with the the F. Really enjoying my time. Now with the upcoming BR rebalance I will give the G a try. The abysmal reverse really makes you think about positioning... more than in a heavy even.
Your loader will often be the first one killed...
Yeah, no. For me it's more often the gunner together with the breach that leaves the Panther. lol
From distances in a long range duel where you cant find cover, angle at 20 degrees and use sidescrape and wiggle your turret, it saved me many times!
Love this video so much. Your new vids are different, and idk…just don’t hit like they used to.
Absolutely eat up your content my dude, but there’s just something about your old stuff.
You aren’t monotone, but it’s so easy to follow with your ease of communicating without having to force something funny or witty to say in the moment.
Especially for the Panther D an Panther 2
Try to use your outstanding killrange to compensate for the bad turret rotation rate!
And another hint
if you can no longer shoot in random close combat, tank hits! dont give up! if you have little ammunition with you you can score a lot with tanking hits!
I love fighting Panthers that show me even a little bit of side. The firework show is fabulous
Not as pretty as the kv2 going up like a nuke
Now let’s do the same for the British mbts and the rank 4 auto loaded french Bois with oscillating turrets like the Lorraine 40t
I recently bought tiger h1 and the first panther I can't remember which is the version and I got into battle thinking That I have the best in the fckin lobby😂, then I searched on UA-cam to find some tips on how to play these 2 tanks and i found your videos, they have helped me but I am still trying to learn these tanks better.
The one thing I’ll say is I tend to carry a max of 16 shells. Iv found that’s usually plenty and it gets rid of most of your ammo racks. Just defend points for a bit if you need to reload ammo
i carry even 15 shells 🫣
@@Morgensztern12You can carry more 25 is Max. After that ammo gets stored in the side, which just sucks.
I carry 18 shells, playing RB and i don’t use much more in one battle. If i get empty i smoke and bail out to the closet cap.
that poor Stug in the opening clip - lmao
The panther F is max absolute favourite tank, my goodness I love it so much
I got 15 kills in realistic with out dying.
The Panther G is in my experience the WORST panther. The mantlet just becomes a bigger weak spot, and the "extra turret armor" is only on the turret face around the mantlet. All at a higher BR than the others. The Panther F is the best sniper due to the turret armor and reload/range finder combo, since at range against the 85 and 76mm it is immune. The Panther A is the best aggressive panther and that mantlet can be trolly against even big guns. The Panther 2 is also a great aggressive tank but is let down by the turret traverse and turret armor is pretty easy to penetrate at the BR.
They need to add the panther 2 again I never got to unlock it
i heard the panther 2 and tiger 2 105 will come back on the 26 of oct same with maus
@@joshrichter3391 Very interesting.
@@joshrichter3391 very interesting :troll:
@@vaultboye its still not ever yet, literally gonna have to buy a fucking acc inneed that shit.
I don't play WT, but love panthers at WOT PC and Blitz. Very interesting.
Really? Recommendable! In WoT they are reduced to a weird sniper role which just doesnt fit the game with its limited view range
@@cc0767 Really
Tiger I Guide: ua-cam.com/video/0wGS91_OmVk/v-deo.html
Tiger II Guide: ua-cam.com/video/br3uvCznyHs/v-deo.html
Being a british main i forget that the panther doesn't actually have a reverse gear, because S is my least pressed movement key due to playstyle and experience with things like the cromwell, love the tiger 1 tho
I LOVE the opening sequence! We drive like we are in tanks and got our license out of cracker jack box. I have to wonder what the hell we are thinking.
And remember kids, if you like sniping, grab the Panther F with inbuilt rangefinder
Can you make a guide on the allied medium tanks like M4 sherman or T-34-85 please, i struggle with them a lot because im not used to playing a tank with thin armor (compared to heavy tanks)
Great stuff, Tank. Currently I'm playing 4.7 BR but will be researching my first Panther next. I'm not looking forward to playing an un-upgraded Panther but it has to be done. Good advice about not thinking your Panther is invulnerable. I will try to keep this in mind.
that is one of the few chad BRs
So, did ya ever get that Panther D?
@@MotivatedVergil111 Yes, I did. Have all of the Panthers now and fully upgraded. Great tanks but rarely play them. Normally playing lower BRs for fun.
@@robb7748 Yeah, lowers BRs are fun..
Today, I touched my panthers and tiger Is that I haven't touched in a year.
@@MotivatedVergil111 I think low br and USA 6.3 are my fav BRs to have fun
great video mate, keep it up
Great Vid, Keep it up!
the Panther 2 never should use the long 88. Right after the Panther D was rolled out, the russian anti tank rifle could go through its side. So they decided to stronger its armour and creating the Panther 2 which should replace the Panther 1. However, with adding sideskirts to the panther 1 his problem was solved with way less costs and so they cancel the panther 2.
Perhaps im wrong... but i think your thinking of the panzer IV
@@lewildknight9864 yes, you are wrong :D Just google it
Very well put together video subscribed !!
8:07 this happens me when I get a kill.
i was killed by a BT-5 in my first game in the panther D. i didnt think he could pen my sides so i went for the IS-2. i killed the IS-2 but got racked by the BT-5 (not sure how, didnt think 45 mm had enough explosive filler to set off my ammo)
It doesn't matter if it has explosive filler or not.
The ammo can get set off if enough damage is done to it
they should bring the panther 2 back, left a hole in the tree or add the E series
Yeah the E series except the e10 and 25 because we already know what the asu 57 does
I wish they put the Panther f at 6.0 and moved the G to 5.7. I love the look of the G but it doesn't justify moving my whole lineup to 6.0. Additionally, the F had a rangefinder 🤔
your wish has been granted
@@KirinZH Dude I saw the changelog, I was like "WOW!" when I saw that 😂
The prediction
T-34/85 and M4A3 76W don’t justify their 5.7 BRs either,arguably worse tanks than Panthers.
The panther weakspots are very obvious. The problem is that somehow I get penetrated frontaly by other tanks anyway.
Why do F and II panther are best armored? They removed very useful gun manlet, that was overlapping with front turret plate, increasing armor two times and bugging shells.
Please do more of these!
The Panthers are good tanks, it is just the Wheraboos are really bad and cant play the game
Can't stereotype like that. I would say that I'm pretty decent at the game. Many german mains are very good. If you think that this is correct to stereotype, I could pull up clips of any nation player being dumb, or just not noticing something obvious.
Dude please shut up and stop stereotyping us. I'm a German main and I'm extremely good at 5.7.
@@InoriVoid yes i think that's the case but it's just more noticeable with German tanks
@@troutwarrior6735 no
I just started maining German tanks because I am a bit of a wehraboo and Britain has insane repair costs.
The meme is real. I thought facing snipers was annoying. What's way more annoying is losing an easy match because literally your whole team decided they wonna be snipers
After you've cut ammo, do and xray and see the placement... most in the side sponson is on the driver's side, will two rds by the driver's head. I pointed this out on forum some time ago, last time I check there was no answer to obvious question: Who would be stupid enough to do that? It just ensures if you get penned behind the radio operator or driver you have ammo explode... ooooh, gained so much cutting ammo, right?
0:15 German players in a nutshell
6.0 has been my best br so far
Usually, in the 75mm gun vehicles [my main experience is with the Panzer IV], about 30-35 are more than enough, even too much in most battles.
Panther F at 6.0 for no reason at all
I like how the stuG III is just getting bullied in the first few seconds
Panther was a tank destroyer
I struggle a lot with the Panther D and VK3002. The VK is nice because it’s pretty fast, but the cannon on both tanks feels very anemic. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve side-shot the turret or under the tracks on an IS or M6 only to get smoked 5 seconds later when said tank traverses and shoots me before I can reload. And at 5.3, virtually every Russian tank and decent number of American tanks can easily front pen the glacial and turret.
Yes but in every panther their turret is a round magnet
Ah yes. The guide we are waiting for!
I disagree on the F model having a better turret. It has a massive flat turret face on both sides of the gun that is easily penned by something like a stabilized 76mm Sherman, let alone any higher calibre like a Russian 85mm or US 90mm. Whereas with the A or G variant the gun mantlet that spans the majority of the turret face is a trolly piece of *** that will most likely volumetrically eat a 76mm shell, and leave you unscathed.
Thanks dude! New sub.
You should revisit this and the tigers in a new light of the battlefield of today
I feel like warthunder players can navigate California traffic without a problem
"easy to pen turret face"
the 76 sherman crying
Oh good teaching the German players to be smart…
not necessary a bad thing...if it results in BR increase....
Ahh. A man of culture I see?
Thank you
1. Dont ever show your fucking turret, unless you see the enemy and got a loaded Cannon. Especially Panther F.
the reverse speed of a panther is a joke
The reverse speed of every German tank is a joke.
@@killerbug05 Nope,8km/h on Tigers and Panzer IVs are decent.
And how tf every German tank?MBTs….
these lads in the beginning of the vid are rlly having trouble getting thru that bridge
Hey do you reckon you could do a comprehensive guide of the shermans im struggling with them and im already wounded by the fact that the tiger isn't as good as the stories say
I'm thinking about it, but it'll take likely some time
@@Tankenstein take your time bro I can wait
The tiger is as amazing as the stories say, you just have to play them right
@@WavyLettuce not with these repair costs they increased the repair costs on the tiger so I cant play for fun without getting scared that I am going to die and have to deal with the repair costs
@@velikan4937 the tiger h1 is only 2k sl its really cheap
Nice guide :D but I'm having a hard time deciding on what tank I want to research first either the tiger h1 or the VK 30.02 M (prototype panther)
Tiger is good but I would go with the VK, it is faster then the other panthers and a good gun, only down side is less armor but won’t matter if you stay long range.
forgot some weaknesses: no reverse gear, very low HE filler in shell, often leaving enemies alive if only hit in turret, bad turret traverse and elevation speed, bad roof armor, dying to 50 cal and 20mm planes,
Why is the Panther F the only 1 without a gun mantilet or muzzle break?? Thanks Aussie skot
I like your screename!
I want a Panther II so bad...
0:40 morning traffic in a nutshell
dropping a comment down for the youtuber overlords to notice this underrated as fuck channel
I only take 15-20 rounds in any tank I usually play so my turret doesn’t go to the store to buy milk
i carry 17 shells so the ammo explosion never concerns me
I wish the Panther II was still a thing
RIP the panther 2
Thank you for this video im very close to getting my first panther and yodefinetly got sub from me
Can u make a graphics video fr low end pc players, it would mean a lot
Panther can pen more then Tiger
guide for panther II :
cry about it
Can you use these tops for the kv 1 L11? Thank you for the tips
Today Panther G is 5.7 and F is 6.0
Subbed
awsome bump
When i was new player in war thunder i played sim battle with t 34 and panter erstaz trick me and he killed me cuz i thoat he is American
All rank 4 Panthers suk. You literally cannot reliably roll with them with other rank 4 stuff because US and USSR get vehicles that are literally impervious to Panthers. The VK is a very special case, I would bring it to battle at up to 6.7 if it had a faster turret with same performance, unlike any other Panther. Also, rank 4 Panther repair costs are criminal.
i cannot wait to fly my panther
What is the best country to start with and the best tank to start with
did noone notice mrXenon
That intro 😂😂😂
I would like to point out if you're at 5.3 germany and the only panther you have is the D variant, you will be uptiered to 6.3+ NO EXCEPTIONS. So all the advice he gives in this video regarding how to play in uptiers must be adhered to. You cant play at 5.3 germany at 5.3. It will always always always send you on up to 6.3. Ive had the panther D for weeks and have yet to get matched at 5.3 or lower. Its always 6.3.
Phew, I thought I was the only one 😭. It’s so annoying to just get constant IS2’s yeeted against your tank. Same goes for Jumbo’s although easier to kill.
@@Dutch-McLarenJk82- The Jumbo Shermans give me the most trouble. I havent learned how to pen them yet I guess
@@MTFOphantomiirc you can pen most of their front plate, and ofcourse, the MG port in the front
who needs a reverse speed if you can spawn snipe
Panthers are good....MORE ARE BETTER!!!
0:20 LOL
ahhh, the gold oli days when the Panther D was a proper 5.3 and not a 5.7. Cause fuck gaijin.
What about the VK.3002
It was added after this vid came out.
VK.3002 is a prototype panther, and its a direct slight downgrade to the Panther D
11:04
GerMaNY SuffERS
Seriously tho, what the hell was that
Explosive filler idiot
Panth
I only take 20 shells so ammo isn’t as big of a problem
Same
I stick to 15 shells in all tanks. 12 armor and 3 frag shells in toto
I'm not a fan of the panther. It's to slow. The turret speed is shite. I have had quite a few shots bounce of the turret but it's not a tank I enjoy using.
Do you have a discord channel?
Yessir! discord.gg/6KXasUHuEC
Only allies committed war crimes! Axis did not!
put 20 APCBC and 5 APCR
The panthers were the last vehicles I had fun with. Almost everything after that makes it unbearable for me.
Very late german war tankes vs cold wars