Roger Crowley - Conquerors: How Portugal Forged the First Global Empire

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  • @jayhuxley2559
    @jayhuxley2559 Рік тому +9

    Portugal made Europe rich, developed and powerful!

  • @sharkblues
    @sharkblues 6 місяців тому +5

    I've read of of Mr. Crowley's books. He's never boring and brings all the excitement, bloodshed, and drama of his subject to life as few historians can. I can't wait for his next!

  • @davidjsouth231
    @davidjsouth231 Рік тому +14

    I bought and read this book. Having lived in Portugal and enamored with history of early centuries this book captivated my attention.

  • @eratogaladeira9088
    @eratogaladeira9088 Рік тому +9

    I'm from Portugal and I'm fascinated to hear the work you've put into putting all this information together. Because I'm also a fan of history involving our ancestors.
    And whenever I find a channel that has good content on this topic, I listen.
    Hug from Portugal
    Hélder Ladeira

  • @mikediamanti2990
    @mikediamanti2990 2 роки тому +7

    Just finished reading "Conquerors" and have read several other of Mr. Crowley's books. This presentation vividly brings to life 14th thru 16th century history, at a time when Portugal started its rise as a global power intent on trading hegemony and Muslim conquest. Mr. Crowley gives us the perspective necessary to come to grips with the events that have reverberated through so many populations, cultures, and countries. I would also recommend Peter E. Russell's "Prince Henry the Navigator: A Life". Thank you, Mr. Crowley, for some of the best narrative history available today.

  • @dattilo1
    @dattilo1 Рік тому +3

    This one was my favorite of Crowley's books, which by the way are all great. Really enjoyable video, thank you

  • @jayhuxley2559
    @jayhuxley2559 Рік тому +6

    Portugal in the 14th century was one of the richest countries of Europe, its just a question of studying and contabilizying monuments, cathedrals, castles, churches, trade documents, diplomatic offerings and see what Portugal had and what the other countries didnt had. Than comparing with european local wars who destroyed economy and finally the thousands of famines in Europe, that didnt exist in Iberia.

    • @Gloriaimperial1
      @Gloriaimperial1 8 місяців тому

      The Spanish conquered Sicily in 1282, Athens in 1311, destruction of the English fleet in 1372 (La Rochelle), destroying 48 ships, invasions of southern England in 1377, 1380-81, 1411, bases at Djerba, Tunisia, Africa, in 1380, before Portugal, conquest of the Canary Islands in 1404 (before Portugal, which reaches Africa, Ceuta in 1415) destruction of the Hanseatic League fleet in 1419, conquest of Naples, Sardinia and half of Italy in 1441, discovery of America in 1492. Portugal had only explored the west coast of Africa in the 15th century. Italy is full of Spanish universities, churches, cities and fortresses. Portugal became important in 1498, when they arrived in India, then Brazil in 1500, China in 1513. Around that time, Spain had an emperor in Germany, the Netherlands and parts of France, and the discovery of the Pacific Ocean. and the Philippines in 1520, in addition to the first circumnavigation of the world. The Pacific Ocean is half of the earth.

  • @eratogaladeira9088
    @eratogaladeira9088 Рік тому +2

    Thanks!!!

  • @First362
    @First362 Рік тому +1

    Thank you

  • @binalcensored2104
    @binalcensored2104 Рік тому +7

    Its obvious that Roger Crowley is not a man of historic economy and he doesnt understands how Portugal was richer and more developed than great part of Europe. Portugal was one of the richest and most developed nations in Europe from times much before the Romans to the 19th century and that was what explains with solid evidences, like monuments, academies, cathedrals, trade and documents why Celts, Romans, Germanics Swabians and Visigoths, Arabs and Christian knights from all Europe came to live in Portugal. Especially, at the time of king Dom Dinis (1261-1325), the vision and entrepreneurial capacity allowed the royal treasury to dispose of funds to make loans to its neighboring kings, as documented in chronicles to the king of Aragon and the King of Castile. It also allowed him to be generous in the gifts he made whenever he went on diplomatic missions.
    Numerous Europeans, coming from France, England, Italy, Germany and other places, came to live in Portugal, taking advantage of the dynamism that the king gave and due to the more favorable and abundant situation in Portugal.
    The Iberian Peninsula was known for its vast resources that for millennia attracted Phoenicians and Greeks, but mainly Romans, Celts, Arabs and Germanic peoples, who moved to Iberia and took up residence there. Iberia grew more than the rest of the European areas. “It grew even more in the 9th-10th century, being the richest area in the 10th century and this growth is never stopped. Christian gains must be understood by this growth.” To this we must add a series of "favorable circumstances", among them their stable monarchies, with the kingdom of Castile and Aragon "very organized, composed of a warrior society with warriors who were created in the border struggle". Portugal, for its part, seeks above all “control of the Atlantic, where it has invested heavily, and allows it to conquer a position of global leadership, especially in what will later be called Brazil”.
    In the distribution of the new lands, other western European kingdoms are excluded for various reasons”, as can be seen by the thousands of famines in northern Europe, by the countless migrations from northern Europe to Portuguese territory over almost every century, in the last thousands of years and, finally, by the large number of monuments, documents, churches and castles that exist in much greater numbers in the Iberian Peninsula.
    The so-called Great Famine was restricted to northern Europe, including the British Isles, northern France, the Netherlands, Scandinavia, Germany and western Poland. In the north, crops were very often destroyed by cold weather, rain, hail and frost. The famine was limited to the south by the Alps and the Pyrenees. Famines were familiar occurrences in medieval Europe. Localized famines occurred in the Kingdom of France during the 14th century in 1304, 1305, 1310, 1315-1317 (the Great Famine), 1330-1334, 1349-1351, 1358-1360, 1371, 1374-1375, and 1390. England, there were additional famines in 1321, 1351 and 1369. Even King Edward II himself in 1315 could not get bread. But it was in Scandinavia that famines were more intense and constant, the cold climate and low light made famines prevail over time. That's why they were forced to risk their lives in stormy seas to steal from other peoples in order to survive, living with the limitations and uncertainties that war always determines. Hence the lack of monuments and constructions of the time, because only a society with resources that guarantee food, with a stable agriculture, peace and confidence in the future, can achieve this.
    There is still great confusion about this, due to what was romanticized and fictionalized, or just built more recently, at the end of the 19th century but described as medieval. The truth of northern European reality has been transformed into fictional tales about princes and princesses wrapped in wealth, but the documentary and monumental truth is completely different. Furthermore, the Nazi office of falsification of historical facts, manipulated the Nordic weakness to appear as "superior to everything".
    Added to this is the poverty caused by the endless wars over territorial limits that destroyed and ruined the resources of European countries, but which in Portugal no longer existed (*with rare exceptions), as Portugal was the first country in Europe to have its border limits demarcated . Hence the Lusitanian nation, with a stable present, turned to the future and looked to the unknown world, to the sea beyond and how to create and develop the technological and scientific means to get there.
    There is positional and internal organization so that the countries of the peninsula have an undisputed hegemony. In Iberia, the climate was warm, mild, the region was diverse and crossed by countless rivers that irrigated the land and served as transport routes, connecting and transporting the economy of this region full of varied resources, from the sea rich in fish, to to the interior of the Iberian Peninsula and vice versa. In addition, agriculture evolved a lot, with the introduction of new Arab cultivation and irrigation techniques, hitherto unknown in Europe.
    The great scientific, technical, maritime and human development that Portugal created to travel around the world and beyond, was prepared over the centuries and that is why Portugal made Europe rich and developed, changing its small, poor, closed, in the medieval era, on the continent that lead the world to this day.
    D. Dinis established a centralizing policy, articulated with important economic promotion actions, such as the creation of numerous municipalities and fairs.
    He ordered the exploitation of copper, silver, tin and iron mines and organized the export of surplus production to other European countries.
    Foreign trade - Cereal production soon surpasses domestic consumption and Portugal becomes an exporting kingdom, establishing commercial relations with ports in Catalonia, Brittany, Flanders and England, signing the first commercial treaty with Edward II of England in 1308. Wine, olive oil, salt, salted fish and dried fruit are also exported to these ports. Even abroad, Portuguese merchants began to gain privileges: Philip IV of France donated privileges to Portuguese merchants on two occasions, in 1290 and in 1310, on this date specifically to the merchants of Harfleur.
    Once the Reconquest was concluded, Dinis I of Portugal became interested in foreign trade, organizing exports to European countries. In 1293 he instituted the so-called Bolsa dos Mercadores, a maritime insurance fund for the numerous Portuguese merchants residing in the County of Flanders, who paid certain sums according to tonnage, which reverted to their benefit if necessary. Algarve wine and chestnuts were sold in Flanders and England, salt from the Lisbon, Setúbal and Aveiro regions were profitable exports to Northern Europe, as were leather and Kermes, a scarlet dye.
    Internal trade - This commercial increase resulted in an increase in the number of fairs. Dinis continues his father's impulse in this field: the regions of Entre Douro e Minho, Beira and Alentejo were covered with fairs, namely tax free fairs, that is, fairs with privileges and exemptions.
    To avoid dependence on neighboring states for the transport of goods, he ordered the construction of ships in the kingdom's shipyards. The country claims leadership in trade between the North Atlantic and the South and therefore, the king lays the foundations for the construction of innovative ships, which combine the characteristics of resistant Atlantic ships, with the lightness and versatility of navigability in the Mediterranean. Foreign sailors even came to combine specific knowledge of their maritime regions, with what Portuguese specialists and researchers were looking for and this is how the Genoese Manuel Pessanha is attributed the position of admiral as a privilege, founding a true Portuguese navy at the service of the Crown and the Kingdom.
    He pursued relevant judicial reforms, instituted the Portuguese language as the official language of the court, created one of the first European Universities, freed the Military Orders in the national territory from foreign influences and continued to systematically increase royal centralism.
    In a time of national affirmation of economic prosperity and peace led by a king with an administrative and economic vocation, it would confirm the continuation of the use of new money as opposed to old money. There is also a novelty in a silver alloy coin, with its name Tornes. This coin is a reflection of the success of the coin in France and a sign of growing trade in Europe. It was also a credibility mechanism showing that there was good silver currency in Portugal.
    A monarch more devoted to economics and the arts than to war, he developed a policy of monetary stability and boosted the economy, especially agriculture. He promoted the extraction of various minerals, the creation of fairs and the development of the navy. "In these lands, countless knights from France became residents, who integrated themselves into local life. Their descendants, already assumed themselves completely as Portuguese".
    During his reign, D. Dinis founded 44 villages throughout his kingdom, including the village of Atouguia. In them he built and repaired his castles. He created one of the top 3 universities in Europe, the University of Coimbra / Lisbon.
    Cultivated and curious about letters and science, he would have stimulated the translation into Portuguese of many important works, among them the treatises of his grandfather Afonso X, the Wise. In this way, his Court was one of the greatest literary centers in Europe.

  • @MARPSTE
    @MARPSTE 10 місяців тому

    That was a fascinating presentation

  • @cg8397
    @cg8397 2 роки тому +3

    Mr. Crowley was cut off at the end. Could you please upload the rest of his talk? Thanks in advance.

  • @benstaubyn
    @benstaubyn Місяць тому

    I am 🇵🇹
    Did not know about the five wounds of Christ .
    Absolutely correct !
    About the precocious National Identity
    For many reasons,
    Not least that it's Borders have remained unchanged for the best part of a Millenium. .

  • @binalcensored2104
    @binalcensored2104 Рік тому +2

    The Lagos slave market is a mistake, it never existed! Lagos was a slave market in Africa with more than 2.000 years!

  • @ganotube
    @ganotube 2 місяці тому

    AND IF IT WASNT THE BRITISH THE BRAZIL WAS STILL OURS

  • @josersleal
    @josersleal Рік тому +3

    Roger, Thank you for describing our history in some detail (sometimes dubious). But 150 years to describe the duration of the longest empire in human history??? Have you been edited by the british crown? Have you forgotten that the british indic empire was a marriage donation from us? Also because we were weakened by decades of Spanish co-ruling? by the way, you never mention that the British Portuguese colaboration is always highly detrimental to us. Why? The truth is out there..

    • @cg8397
      @cg8397 Рік тому +5

      No, the collaboration became detrimental only after the Protestant Reformation in England. Not before that.

    • @josersleal
      @josersleal 5 місяців тому

      @@cg8397 really? how much did the brave knights get paid in exchange of their religious based help? int he siege of lisbon, aljubarrota?, all the way until the claims that napolean was coming? (this last one maybe more than half the portuguese tresoury at the time. our friends were always guided by political and monetary interest. never in the name of something else. who can blame them?

  • @Magicallstore
    @Magicallstore 10 місяців тому

    And ladies and gentlemen Morocco ended the existence of that empire

    • @TimSerras
      @TimSerras 6 місяців тому +2

      You are off-course high on pot right?

  • @Gloriaimperial1
    @Gloriaimperial1 8 місяців тому +1

    Portugal did not become the first global empire.
    The Spanish arrived before the Portuguese, to 4 continents. Portugal only arrives first in Asia.
    -The Spanish expand through Sicily, 1282, and Athens, 1311, invading southern England in 1377, 1380-81 and 1411.
    -The Spanish expanded first through Africa: Djerba, Tunisia 1380 (Empire of Aragon), and the Canary Islands 1404 (although there were already Castilian settlers in 1341). Portugal arrived in Africa in 1415.
    -The Spanish arrived first in America, in 1492, breaking for the first time in history the cultural unity of Europe-Asia-Africa.
    During the 16th century, the Portuguese are only exploring the west coast of Africa. But even Castile also reaches the Gulf of Guinea, in Africa. The African coast is not a global trade.
    -The only time when Portugal is on more continents is in 1500, when they arrive in Brazil (although Spain arrived in Brazil before), but previously they arrived in India in 1498. 1500: 4 continents. But no conquered land in Europe. While Spain has an emperor in Germany (1519), the Netherlands (1516) and parts of France (1516), as well as controlling Italy since 1441. a place of great trade with Asia.
    -The world has 5 continents. In 1520, Spain crossed the Pacific Ocean for the first time, which is half of the earth, reaching the Philippines and bringing products from the 5 continents to Spain.
    -In 1603, Spain discovered the Antarctic zone.

    • @don_hss
      @don_hss 4 місяці тому +1

      Buenas amigo, buen comentario. ¿Cuándo llegó Castilla al Golfo de Guinea?

    • @Gloriaimperial1
      @Gloriaimperial1 4 місяці тому +1

      @@don_hss Hola, gracias! Llegó al Golfo de Guinea en 1476-78, creo recordar, y luego ya en el siglo XVIII, porque hasta esa época se consideró zona de influencia portuguesa.

    • @luisfilipe2851
      @luisfilipe2851 12 днів тому

      Imperial Glory, the history books forged by the academic authorities in Spain ended up unbiasedly shaping your perception of history with jingoistic and messianic-supremacist falsehoods invented by ultranationalist pseudo-academics in Spain.
      You need to be more cautious when it comes to choosing history books, otherwise you will end up spreading nonsense and "academic-scientific" rubbish on this platform.
      Illustrious Spanish pseudo-historian and sorcerer's apprentice, as a Portuguese citizen I feel compelled to give you some brave lessons on scientific-historiographical methodology, in order to curb your pathetic and supremacist jingoism.
      Firstly, the true history of maritime expansion is much more than what appears in the official books of universal history, meticulously forged by the political and academic elites of the main European powers with the primary objective of shaping the academic and scientific thought of a certain geographic region where they established themselves as the dominant power, for essentially geopolitical purposes (e.g.: currently the empire of the Anglo-American brotherhood is trying to extend and consolidate its tentacles of 'soft power' in all planetary regions aligned with its foreign policy, through the cultural and academic influence of its main university education establishments, being that its main academics teach the false narratives of contemporary history dictated by the "winners" of the main conflicts that occurred in Europe in the 20th century).
      Secondly, the "orthodox" narrative about the history of the beginnings of European maritime expansion that Spain wanted to impose on the main European powers of the modern and contemporary eras on a historical-cultural basis, including the main center of gravity of European overseas colonial power , namely, England − the current Western "ministry of truth" along with its most prominent child, the United States of America − is full of purposeful distortions and deeply partial and incomplete perspectives, where the 'cherry-picking' fallacy is widely used to extol the "great deeds" of the all-powerful Spain and downplay or vulgarize the "vulgar deeds" of the Portuguese nation.
      Thirdly, the bam-bam-bam guru of Spanish historiography pretends to be unaware of a supervening fact well recognized by Portuguese historiography recently produced by some of the main academic bodies in Portugal: the Portuguese crown had a policy of secrecy in relation to its overseas discoveries, There are countless examples that substantiate this policy of secrecy of the Portuguese crown, combined with official propaganda that aimed to deceive the main competitors in the process of dominating the main maritime routes.
      First example: Brazil had already been discovered in secret by the Portuguese crown long before the first Spaniard arrived there, namely Vicente Yanez Pinzon, for the simple reason that Portugal had already carried out numerous reconnaissance and exploration expeditions long before the signing of the Treaty of Tordesillas. It was not for nothing that Portugal insisted on changing the position of the reference meridian of the aforementioned treaty, since Portuguese navigators already had clear knowledge of the entire circulatory system of the South Atlantic and knew perfectly well that the coastal territory that is now part of Brazil it was absolutely necessary as a logistical base and necessary stopover point to take advantage of the sea currents that took ships and caravels to the southern tip of the African continent.
      Therefore, long before the signing of the Treaty of Tordesillas, the Portuguese had already bypassed the southern tip of the South American subcontinent in the strait that would later be called the Strait of Magellan. The poet Luís de Camões himself recognizes in his poetic work of the Lusíadas that the strait that later came to be called "strait of Magalhães" had already been discovered previously by another secret Portuguese expedition, and so much so that the Portuguese poet wrote in ciphered language that the navigator Ferdinand Magalhães had in his possession a secret map of the entire South American subcontinent that had been given to him by the king of Portugal before beginning his command mission of the Spanish expedition for the maritime circumnavigation of planet Earth, this map where the "Strait of Magellan" was already mapped!!!

    • @luisfilipe2851
      @luisfilipe2851 12 днів тому

      Imperial Glory, the history books forged by the academic authorities in Spain ended up unbiasedly shaping your perception of history with jingoistic and messianic-supremacist falsehoods invented by ultranationalist pseudo-academics in Spain.
      You need to be more cautious when it comes to choosing history books, otherwise you will end up spreading nonsense and "academic-scientific" rubbish on this platform.
      Illustrious Spanish pseudo-historian and sorcerer's apprentice, as a Portuguese citizen I feel compelled to give you some brave lessons on scientific-historiographical methodology, in order to curb your pathetic and supremacist jingoism.
      Firstly, the true history of maritime expansion is much more than what appears in the official books of universal history, meticulously forged by the political and academic elites of the main European powers with the primary objective of shaping the academic and scientific thought of a certain geographic region where they established themselves as the dominant power, for essentially geopolitical purposes (e.g.: currently the empire of the Anglo-American brotherhood is trying to extend and consolidate its tentacles of 'soft power' in all planetary regions aligned with its foreign policy, through the cultural and academic influence of its main university education establishments, being that its main academics teach the false narratives of contemporary history dictated by the "winners" of the main conflicts that occurred in Europe in the 20th century).
      Secondly, the "orthodox" narrative about the history of the beginnings of European maritime expansion that Spain wanted to impose on the main European powers of the modern and contemporary eras on a historical-cultural basis, including the main center of gravity of European overseas colonial power , namely, England − the current Western "ministry of truth" along with its most prominent child, the United States of America − is full of purposeful distortions and deeply partial and incomplete perspectives, where the 'cherry-picking' fallacy is widely used to extol the "great deeds" of the all-powerful Spain and downplay or vulgarize the "vulgar deeds" of the Portuguese nation.
      Thirdly, the bam-bam-bam guru of Spanish historiography pretends to be unaware of a supervening fact well recognized by Portuguese historiography recently produced by some of the main academic bodies in Portugal: the Portuguese crown had a policy of secrecy in relation to its overseas discoveries, There are countless examples that substantiate this policy of secrecy of the Portuguese crown, combined with official propaganda that aimed to deceive the main competitors in the process of dominating the main maritime routes.
      First example: Brazil had already been discovered in secret by the Portuguese crown long before the first Spaniard arrived there, namely Vicente Yanez Pinzon, for the simple reason that Portugal had already carried out numerous reconnaissance and exploration expeditions long before the signing of the Treaty of Tordesillas. It was not for nothing that Portugal insisted on changing the position of the reference meridian of the aforementioned treaty, since Portuguese navigators already had clear knowledge of the entire circulatory system of the South Atlantic and knew perfectly well that the coastal territory that is now part of Brazil it was absolutely necessary as a logistical base and necessary stopover point to take advantage of the sea currents that took ships and caravels to the southern tip of the African continent.
      Therefore, long before the signing of the Treaty of Tordesillas, the Portuguese had already bypassed the southern tip of the South American subcontinent in the strait that would later be called the Strait of Magellan. The poet Luís de Camões himself recognizes in his poetic work of the Lusíadas that the strait that later came to be called "strait of Magalhães" had already been discovered previously by another secret Portuguese expedition, and so much so that the Portuguese poet wrote in ciphered language that the navigator Ferdinand Magalhães had in his possession a secret map of the entire South American subcontinent that had been given to him by the king of Portugal before beginning his command mission of the Spanish expedition for the maritime circumnavigation of planet Earth, this map where the "Strait of Magellan" was already mapped!!!

    • @luisfilipe2851
      @luisfilipe2851 12 днів тому

      Now, this means that The Portuguese navigator Fernão de Magalhães was a secret agent of King D. Manuel I, from Portugal, connected with the so-called “Molucas Affair”. His mission was to arrive to Moluccas Islands taking a maritime route through the “Spanish Influence Zone” (according to the Tordesillas Treaty), as Portugal thought that those islands were in that zone. Spain had not a direct knowledge about those islands (the Portuguese had already reached them by sailing from Malacca). The objective of the Portuguese king was to buy the Moluccas to Spain once Magalhães would reach them by arriving from the East, as D. Manuel I and his heir D. João III knew that Carlos V needed money to become emperor and to keep fighting all the struggles he had in the territories under his administration. Through the Zaragoza Treaty (1529) Portugal bought the Moluccas Islands to Spain but later it was recognized that those islands were, in fact, within the “Portuguese Influence Zone”.
      Finally, it is necessary to demystify the great historical lie of the "Genoese" origin of Christopher Columbus, cunningly created by Portugal to once again deceive the Crown of Castile in the great geopolitical game of controlling the most efficient maritime route that gave access to spices from India and other major commodities from Indo-Pacific Southeast Asia, whose trade to the European continent was monopolized by the Ottoman Empire and the Republic of Venice.
      Today, a scientific consensus is beginning to emerge within the scientific community of historians and other Portuguese academics that Christopher Columbus was in no way the son of a Genoese weaver or wool carder who decided on his own initiative to participate in the great feat of Portuguese discoveries. Only a naive person could think that a Genoese son of a wool carder had free access to the advanced secrets of nautical science that Portuguese navigators mastered at a level much higher than that of the great European nations. Furthermore, you also have to be a teletubbie to believe that a Genoese commoner son of a wool carder was automatically ennobled to the highest degree so that he would have the chance to have access to the Portuguese royal house!!! Please, give me a break!!! But the contradictions and implausibilities do not stop here: How can we explain that the "Genoese" Christopher Columbus did not know how to write Italian without constant recourse to Portuguese and Castilian words? How can we explain that the "Spanish" Christopher Columbus wrote Castilian full of syntactical errors and spellings? How can we explain that the "Genoese" Christopher Columbus did not even give an Italian toponymy to the places he "discovered" in Central America?
      There is no doubt that Portugal set up a major deception scheme through elaborate information warfare designed to make Castile waste too much time exploring the American continent, looking for a possible exit to the Indian-Pacific region.
      While the Castilians were occupied in Central America, the Portuguese were certain that their peninsular rivals would not dare to change their minds regarding the binding value of the Treaty of Tordesillas, abruptly changing their maritime expansion strategy to refocus it on " area of Portuguese influence", for starting a war against Portugal if necessary. The truth is that the main geographic source of wealth coveted by the European powers of medieval times was not at all the American continent but rather the Asian continent. And Portugal already knew this long before signing the Treaty of Tordesillas. Only a blind person cannot understand the strategic move of the Portuguese crown.
      Therefore, before the signing of the Treaty of Tordesillas, Portugal had already secretly recognized and explored the entire western and eastern coastline of most of the American continent, including North American California. Furthermore, it is no news to anyone that Portuguese fishermen set up logistical bases to rest from long days of cod fishing in Newfoundland, Canada, long before the signing of the Treaty of Tordesillas.

  • @leonorsousa6361
    @leonorsousa6361 Рік тому +1

    Incorrect! the first global Superpower was the Spanish empire, not the Portuguese!

    • @JXJX-gg6qk
      @JXJX-gg6qk Рік тому +6

      ? não , Portugal foi sim o primeiro império global e isso é consenso entre a maioria dos historiadores, mas este facto nada retira importância ao império espanhol.

    • @bellycurious
      @bellycurious Рік тому +5

      Os espanhóis imitaram-nos.

    • @johnnotrealname8168
      @johnnotrealname8168 Рік тому +2

      It depends on what you count as global. The Portuguese got to Africa much earlier but the Spanish got to Cuba earlier.