The True History Of The Knights Templar With Dan Jones
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- The True History Of The Knights Templar With Dan Jones
They might be more famous today for their cameos in The Da Vinci Code and Assassin’s Creed, but in real history the Knights Templar were a complex multi-national organisation just as concerned with economics as warfare. The order was initially set up in Jerusalem to protect pilgrims, who would attempt to make dangerous journeys between cities and sites of interest in the Holy Land. But as the brand of the military order developed, these crusaders soon found themselves wielding power and influence across the kingdoms of medieval Europe.
In this video Dan Snow speaks to medieval historian and author of 'The Templars: The Rise and Spectacular Fall of God's Holy Warriors' to explore what really made the military order such a powerful and influential force during the Middle Ages. The interview is filmed at Temple Church in London, the headquarters of the Knights Templar in England.
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The Knights Templars and the Knight Hospitallers were Catholic military-religious orders to defend the Christians in the Holy Land and to roll back the Muslims (the Holy Land falling to the Muslims in the late 7th century). They are not some sort of a "road side service" as this guy claimed. I noticed he has that sometimes sarcastic look on his face while he was talking about the Knights Templars.
The different color leather jackets doesn't fool me! This video used CG and camera tricks; they're still the same person.
a christian military order was only a paradox until islam invented the holy war. After that it was a logical reaction
Wonderful interview! I have always enjoyed Dan Jones' "informal" way of bringing the distant past to life. As the poet Lord Byron once said about a new acquaintance he liked, "I long to drink with him."...
Keep up the good work, History Hit!
To a Brit, 200 miles is a journey, to an American, that's a day trip. To an American, 200 years is ancient history, to a Brit, that's the Midlands.
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Well white Americans
I lived in a house that was 300 years old in Alconbury Village in the 70s. But 200 miles in the states…not even a challenge. 500 miles maybe…LOL. But you are right about the time comparison. I used to belong to the English Heritage Society I think they were called. Taking care of the historical places. Interesting video. Thanks guys.
200 miles is nothing, it only takes about 3.5 hours.. A nice Sunday drive at most. 600 to 720 miles, 10-12 hours, is a fine days drive. My ex planned a vacation going from Dallas to Los Angeles (Disneyland) which is about 1500 miles away. The only time he would stop is if the car needed gas, which is when we had to queue up for the restroom and grab some snacks and hope we didn't keep him waiting. Never again.
Bloody good little analysis right there
I bought this book for my Dad. It was an Interest we shared. He’d read it while waiting for me at my doctors appointments and then we’d discuss what he learned on the way home. Sadly, he died unexpectedly a little over 6 months ago. I’m beyond heartbroken.
Sorry for your loss 🙏😢😭 xx.
😞 😞
@@jenniferdevlin2805 thank you
I'm sorry for your loss. I hope you can take solace in your good memories of the time you spent with your dad. X
@@aw8585 thank you
I always hated History in school. Studying endless wars, with faceless kings, names after names.. dates after dates. Far off places, with people and culture I was completely unfamiliar with. It was tedious, onerous and extremely boring and seemed useless.
But now, majority of my time on youtube is spent on learning about historical events, personalities, far off places and it's people and culture. I think there is fundamentally something lacking in the way History is taught in school, at least how it was for me. Actual History is fascinating!! I can't get enough.
Thank you for this wonderful interview, Kudos to the interviewer for such a brilliant job! I, myself would first of all - not have asked as smart qs as you did. But more importantly, you didn't interrupt or add your own commentary to anything! It was a joy to watch.
Agreed! Same for me
I felt the same way about history in school. As an adult I realized that I had lousy lazy boring teachers. A good teacher makes a big difference. I now as an adult I enjoy learning history in general.
To me the fascination is in the minutia and details ... as so.eone taught to be a history teacher too often you are told what and how to teach .. you teach to the curricula and for the test ... that said you need to know the basics to appreciate the details.
You had a rubbish teacher , history came alive in every aspect with my teacher , I have loved it to this day
In the 70s, history was so borrowing in H. S. I liked math way better. But in the 90s, they started having historical shows that had visuals and not just someone reading dull facts from a book. Then, historical fictions, books based on facts but told from a first-person view. I was hooked. "The Alienest" was one of the first of these I read. It's about life in 1890s Manhatten with a somewhat fictional Jack the Ripper story added to it. I loved reading the descriptions of life in NY as much as the investigation and the murders.
I'm in Australia. A colleague once returned from holiday in England where he had attended the MILLENNIAL celebration of a particular church. In Oz and no doubt the USA we get excited about a centenary. In the old country you can indeed celebrate 1000 years of existence. It's breathtaking.
Another matter: the UK does a better job of preserving the past than Australia. Here, we obliterate old buildings without a second thought but it's done at the price of a fundamental connection with the past which the digital age can't even begin to emulate, let alone compensate.
Excellent points.
It’s something I only grew to appreciate about England recently. Outside my parents house we have a church built in the 11th century, and sheep fields from the 10th. It’s not really talked about or mentioned, as they’ve always been there any nobody really sees it as particularly remarkable, but not a lot of countries have that kind of history still standing
Don't forget what others intending to make false accusations to destroy history for what some bad things happened in the past
We just need to to talk to Aboriginal Australians about the ancient world.
We've got a huge amount of ancient history in Australia we just need to study and work with the people who know it.
Stonehenge is having a bypass built beside it that will not only remove it's world herratige status, but might also destroy the site.
England no longer cares about their history beyond appologizing for things they can't change.
What REALLY matters, is soap operas, curry and stabbing people over who can kick a ball better.
It wasn't until I left school I found my passion for history, especially medieval history. We should continue to teach about it. A fascinating and bizarre time in the world's history.
You will love the book « A traveler in Rome »by H.V.Morton
I began my love of history in, of all places, English lit class. We read The Canterbury Tales and The Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner. My teacher not only knew these pieces well, he also knew a lot of the history surrounding them. It was my favorite class! For a few years after that, I was busy and kind of abandoned it. But later, I found myself reading history more than other things. I watched shows about history when they were on TV, and now, with UA-cam, I can pretty much have a regular diet of any type of history! I love it!
Why does school make learning so boring 🤔
@@tiktokmashupss7991 same! I truly did not know history until I was out of school. History is far more fascinating than any fiction.
I never found history boring. I was fascinated since a young child and off I went, reading encyclopedias, magazine articles, books of all types, and watching very fictionalized movies and tv programs to documentaries. I had good teachers, but even those that weren't the best, touched on topics that sparked my curiosity. I guess I was self-driven. To me, history was a very long, dramatic, romantic, often tragic adventure.
So realistically, Philip the 4th tried to destroy the Templars and while he got some money, he also made them legendary. Nearly everyone knows the Templars few people know Philip the 4th.
Phillip the fair is maybe not known outside France but in france he is famous (not loved) ,because he is considered as one of the great king .who managed to centralize the administration and by diminishing the role of the french nobility.and was quite succefull ;military speaking.
Being remembered doesn’t mean success.
Basically its the equivalent if Gerald Ford dismantled Disney, everyone and their Dog knows Disney but nobody knows who Gerald Ford is despite being a US President.
@@alanb9443 The Templars were really a success so their fame is based on that success as mention here they had a ton of Connections, Land, Banks and Great Marketing that lasts even today so not bad for a bunch of Knights that are founded to guard pillgrims in a warzone. (I think you mean Famous isn't the same as long lasting success)
Few people know Philip IV outside of France only because there is no video games or movies on him as there are with the Templars. He is nevertheless one of the greatest French kings who is known of anyone with basic knowledge of French history. He's the one that centralized France, created the French state, diminished the influence of the pope, and made France the most powerful country of Christendom.
Also the video is misleading on Philip's motives to eliminate the Templars. It has few to do with gaining some money, but among other reasons to get rid of a powerful military order whose loyalty goes to the pope and not to the king. Therefore, in order to establish his authority, the Templars were to be destroyed and Philip succeeded in doing so.
What is very interesting and somehow not talked about in the video is the curse put upon Philip's descendants by Jacques de Molay, the grand master, while being burned alive at the stake. Despite having three sons that would all become kings of France. Philip's sons would eventually die prematurely one after the other and would fail to produce male heirs to the throne. Even worse, that made Edward III of England, the rival kingdom of France, the best candidate to the throne of France, and would eventually lead to the Hundred years' war. That is also what the myth surrounding the Templars is about.
I couldn't sit and chat this coherently about any topic. Thank you for your ability to share history without doubling back, getting bogged, using esoteric words, and vague references. A treasure.
I don't think I've enjoyed a history lesson ever, as much as I enjoyed this one. What an amazing talent Dan Jones has to capture you in the conversation and educate at the same time. More please...
Dan is a fantastic speaker on medieval history, a pleasure to listen to.
Which one? 😭 lol
@@jaymac7203 Actually both of them, but DJ particularly in this video!
@@colin.dI don’t necessarily disagree although I find him quite arrogant in this video, which is somewhat off putting. I have watched Dan in other shows where he comes across far more humble so i found his performance here a bit strange and confusing in terms of his attitude. Content-wise he is clearly an expert though
@@user-kz4qm1ki5n hmm. I don't get that from him at all. Just seems like two friends having a conversation about history.
Was happy to find out that he was a historical consultant on the series Knightfall which was an excellent series about the Templars and how their downfall came about and who was instrumental in that downfall.
Dan Jones' book on the Templars was fascinating, and reveals an important truth in life. He who controls the gold, controls the world.
what crap you people will believe is just scary.....
@@hiramabiff2017 are you a crusader undercover?
@@victor382 Why would I be undercover ? They love to make you think the ancient orders are all secretive and clandestine, when reality is the are even public tours of KT Mark Masons Hall or the Mason's Grand Lodge in Great Queens Street, and ANYONE can be a Mason & be invited to join KT or Knights of Malta. It suits their purpose & book sales to push a sinister group of secret societies that controls the world🤣😂😅 It's about building a better person and what you can do for society as a whole , not reconquering the holy land.
@@hiramabiff2017 - enlighten us, oh wise one.
Go on.
I got in audiobook, and Jones narrates it, as he does all his books. He’s bloody good.
I could listen to these two talk about the medieval world all day
Knights Templar has been, and remains, a source of fascination for me. This highly intelligent conversation about one of my favorite subjects is greatly appreciated and enjoyed.
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It really is for me too, I have ancestors who were templars and so even as a little child I was totally immersed in knights and crusades
@@Alf763 how do you know that
@@truthbomber7628 because we have family records that go back a very very long way
They're interesting for sure and their descendants still live today as a secret society infact they're believed to be the most powerful secret society in the world today freemasons aka illuminati they control everything from the entertainment industry to the government the templars fell from gods grace into obsession for power and knowledge offered by demonic entities/aliens they discovered in the middle east like the mafia only descendants of the templars can join their ranks everyone else just works for them military, presidents, artist movie stars sport stars etc...
"This is storytelling with the beautiful bonus that it's all true"
I love this so much
Two of the very best and most passionate history professionals- together! What a treat!
The memoirs of Usamah Ibn-Munqidh, a warrior from the early Crusades.
Here’s a memory from the chapter of the book on Usamah’s interactions with the Franks. He just casually mentions that the Templars in this city were his friends, which is something that we would probably assume unlikely or even impossible:
Whenever I visited Jerusalem I always entered the Aqsa Mosque, beside which stood a small mosque which the Franks had converted into a church. When I used to enter the Aqsa Mosque, which was occupied by the Templars, who were my friends, the Templars would evacuate the little adjoining mosque so that I might pray in it. One day I entered this mosque, repeated the first formula, “Allah is great,” and stood up in the act of praying, upon which one of the Franks rushed on me, got hold of me and turned my face eastward saying, “This is the way thou shouldst pray!” A group of Templars hastened to him, seized him and repelled him from me. I resumed my prayer. The same man, while the others were otherwise busy, rushed once more on me and turned my face eastward, saying, “This is the way thous shouldst pray!” The Templars again came in to him and expelled him. They apologized to me, saying, “This is a stranger who has only recently arrived from the land of the Franks and he has never before seen anyone praying except eastward.” Thereupon I said to myself, “I have had enough prayer” (163).
From the times of prophet Muhammad peace be upon him down to Umar the caliph all the way to the Andalusian great civilization both religions had good relationship, it was the church who wanted all the Muslim wealth and power for themselves who painted the Muslims as dark moorish barbarians when in reality it was the opposite just like what happened to the Templars. All the atrocities that happens in the world most always point back to the top church.
@@kyleanuar9090 muslims slaughtered 12000 german pelgrims which led to the first crusade. Christians and Muslims never had a good relationship same with Jews vs Muslims, Hindu vs Muslims
@@kyleanuar9090 all the atrocities tht happens in the world is because of ppl! Jesus never told us to kill our enemies, islam does. Jesus never told us to marry 6 year olds, muhammad did. you my friend are gaslighting. read about the islamic history for eample the islamic slave trade from muhammad's time untill this present day
@@kyleanuar9090 its the way around muslims wanted the wealth and power thats why muslims invaded Christian countries like Egypt, Lebanon, Turkije etc. muhammad never went to Jerusalem it was a mirage muslims used that to claim Jerusalem for themselves. muhammad promised his followers what they didnt have.
@@kyleanuar9090 muhammad took Christians as sex slaves, he commanded his followers on his deathbed to expell all the Christians and Jews from Arabia. muhammad is an antichrist.like his alter ego allah
I love listening to Dan. Can't get enough. The amount of times I've rewatched his retellings of medieval history is almost insane!
I wouldn't watch trash like this for balanced history or intelligent commentary. The first 5 minutes were absolute garbage.
I now live in Canada and love to show off that I could see a castle from my bedroom window growing up. We are so used to seeing this stuff and Dan is right, it's totally exotic to North Americans
Perhaps one day the empire state building will be looked at like that. It's already pretty exotic in its own right.
My dad's family originally were from Germany, Wales, Ireland or Scotland or both, I'm not sure, and France.Many of those places have castles. I would love to see them. All it takes is $.
I grew up looking at the Twin Towers and the Statue of Liberty!
I also had my prom at Windows on the World at the top of the World Trade Center.
So sad!
My history interest began in grade school from an amazing teacher. Now 67 it still continues. Interesting subject regarding the Templars.
"Who wouldn't want to educate themselves about everything that's ever happened?" Exactly! I have a voracious appetite for history ranging from antiquity to the 20th century. The thing that I get out of history is for how much things have changed, they've also stayed the same. People in general want to live peaceful lives. There is always some power-hungry madman champing at the bit. And this you see repeatedly among all cultures.
I must say, I'm very impressed with the audio recording of this interview, GREAT WORK SOUNDMAN!
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@@1ma4ighter Or maybe like me he's done some field recording or sound production & understands how difficult the process is, just to get golden audio into your ears, done well enough that it's unnoticeable to people who haven't worked with sound?
@@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 do you have any examples of why this is a great recording for the uninitiated? Purely interested.
@@cdr3153 personally I was thinking that it was the environment I could imagine trying to record this with any kind of microphone and with any kind of field recorder and just find it so difficult to get the noise out and also get such a clear and balance equalisation coming from the vocal I've done a little bit of recording myself as a classical musician being self recorded and also recording my students myself without half expensive equipment and half-decent microphones and I can tell you it's very difficult to get the correct placement and rejection of noise even in a studio setting but more so difficult out in the open this is truly a great recording
@@1ma4ighter classical people aren't Hipsters, hipstas are wan'a be's.
Great interview. Two bright, erudite and articulate people bringing a period of history to vivid life.
This is a breath of fresh air after UA-cam forcing me to watch a bunch of anti mask/vax ads
An engaged and compelling a lecture whilst not being too hard on the eyes … nicely done, indeed!
And they're both named Dan, which is my name too!
What's the big mystery? Loonies have always been killing folks for Cheesus.
No worse blind than he who refuses to SEE...Shema!!!
from an editor's perspective, i really appreciate dan jones's ease with which he allows those cut gaps following background noise (or through making a more concise point) that are of such use in post. proper professionals, both and a subject i adore.
Two of my favourite historians crossing paths and discussing one of my favourite subjects - what a pleasure to watch, thank you!
As someone that has always loved history and being a English Canadian I think both these guys are great . Visiting England is something I always look forward to . I still have family in Liverpool.
Youl need the Templars to reform again to guid you through Liverpool these days .
In Portugal they believe that the Templars didn’t disappear but transformed into the Knights of the Holy Spirit in Tomar. This order then went on to fund the voyages of discovery. They certainly had good branding and reputation.
The knights of Christ
Yes, the Order of Christ in short. We don't have to speculate about it. It was a papal bull Ad ea ex quibus in March 1319 granted to King Diniz of Portugal to inherit all the assets of the Knights Templar order.
Fascinating.
Refreshing listening to a person so articulate, and clear of speech.
Excellent interview! Dan is 100% correct about us Americans. We are enthralled by British history and are amazed and somewhat jealous that you live modern lives with a backdrop of such treasured buildings.
Well, at least 30 percent of USA is descended from the UK, Italy, Germany..... its our history too.
Well, Americans decimated their 1000s of years of history when they decided to get rid of the indigenous population. It's your own fault, you too could have had a very long history!
@@gillian-clairepearman3125 That tends to happen to civilizations that spent a thousand generations living on nearly infinite resources and never progress out of the stone age.
It doesn’t matter if it was Europeans, Arabs, Africans, Asians it was only a matter of time.
Maybe it would have taken another 100 years or 300, but the moment a modern civilization made contact they were either going to be conquered or exploited. Even if that inevitably didn’t happen, first contact would have annihilated the majority of native populations exactly like what happened in our timeline.
There was no future for the people of the Americas short of their development while Europe remained in the dark age.
Welcome to the sad reality of mankind.
There are thousands of peoples who are completely lost to history, but their plight and tragedy doesn’t fit your political narrative does it.
@@gillian-clairepearman3125 The vast majority of the Native Americans were killed by disease.
@@FormerGovernmentHuman I think they would still be in the stone age honestly
Loved Dan Snow's history of the Royal Navy for the BBC also have a couple of Dan Jones' books the Templars is cracking read, great interview from two people who love thier subject. Thanks fella's
As a 25 year old English man, Dan is my hero!!! Forget about football players!
I am such a romanticist about this whole era. The Templars are so fascinating. Thank you for your hard work and indepth investigations.
I love this format: no frills and crap, just good information while still being entertaining. More please!
I thoroughly enjoyed this video! Two of my favorite contemporary history guys, just having a chat about one of my favorite historical topics! Thank you both for taking the time! Respect!
What is the apostrophe doing in the introductory image ?
I loved hearing the chat at the end about how you guys handle the uncertainty of it, but the joys of storytelling and discovery.
This is such a fascinating discussion. I have the book, but it's pales in comparison when hearing Dan Jones explain all the different political and historical back stories, as regards the rise and fall of the Templars.
This was such a thought provoking interview for me. It is so awe inspiring to listen to Dan Snow chat so off the cuff and so matter a factly make 100's of years of history come to life. So many names dates and locations with no notes what so ever. I'm from the US and know more about European history than my own, there is a certain romance to the old history and the castles and ancient road ways that just don't exist here. I think that there is also another reason for the fascination here on the other side of the pond for some of us, it's our history. Many of us can trace our family lines back to England, Italy, Ireland, ect... I never really thought about much about why my great great grandma left Scotland let alone what her life may have been like. After finding all the great docs on history, Time Team, History Hit, Pete Kelly, Dr. Kat and so many more.I have come to realize that with my Irish, Scottish, German, and Polish ancestry I have been at war with my self for generations!
I sort of hate to admit it but I'm hooked on Oak Island, I was wondering if Dan thinks that there may a connection between the Knights Templar and the Money Pit. I just don't know what to think of it all. Anyways... these are the things I think about when driving my lawn mower around in circles in the sun. Thanks for sharing this, I really enjoyed it.
OOpppsss I got Snow and Jones mixed up. Sorry no disrespect intended, I'm going to blame it on the sun.
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Fantastic talk with two historians that know their subject matter extremely well and explain it perfectly. This is the best video on the Templars I’ve ever seen.
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That was really superb. Dan Jones is such an engaging guy to listen to.
"People there [America] seem to appreciate what we have here in a way we cannot because we take it all for granted."
This is one of the most observant and accurate cultural insights I've ever heard.
Only because they want to align themselves personally with some kind of glory, or validation or element of power that will elevate them socially among all the other white trash and maybe obeday they've ill be "the chosen one" to lead "all men" ... blah blah yawn. A cry for help for being normal and mediocre. No other reason
I love Dan’s answer to making that connection historical people. It is so right on in so many ways.
37:00 As an American I think he got it right. I remember going on a field trip to the San Luis Obispo mission and being blown away at how old it was and it was only about 200 years old. I’ve always been an Anglophile and Francophile because the almost endless history fascinates me to no end.
So if I told you that there is a Roman lighthouse that still stands in England that was built in the year 46 AD, how blown away would you be…
@@Mpayne1472 Honestly, not very blown away. I know about a lot of Roman ruins in England. I am very interested to learn more, though.
@@travisinthetrunk go learn then
@@Mpayne1472 Already on it. Lol thanks
@@Mpayne1472 It's the fun police!
What a great interview,both Dan's giving there inputs and views. A very interesting period in history, where fiction and fact are dificult to pick apart. Good one keep them coming!!
Dans
I've watched this twice now in 24 hours. The second time with my husband and he loved it! Thank you, thank you, thank you!
I'm finishing his book "Crusaders" and in my opinion, is one of the best we'll researched and written books about the Crusades that I've read so far.
We as Americans only have a continental history of 500 years. However as a 75 yr old lover of all history we come from You. So yours is ours. God Blessed America by using 4,000 years of European history. Thank you both, BIG fan.
European history lol, 80% of it stolen from Africa and Middle East
Visit the old world once in your lifetime. It's great to see our distant cousins pass by. A Evropa não renega os seus.
My favourite two Dans discussing one of my favorite history topics ❤️ Bliss!
I really enjoy your Dan Jones interviews. He always has great insights and finds a way to make comparisons that are easy to digest and understand.
He was a delight to listen to. I love how it appeared like nothing was edited. Just one long conversation.
That was brilliant. Concise, complete, eloquent history. Entertaining.
Also, Dan seems such a nice all round guy.
I will definitely buy the book.
A fascinating video brilliantly done and incredibly informative . It was easy to understand and you come away feeling that you understand the Crusades and the Knigts Templar with more clarity
As an American, I can attest to the fact that, at least when I grew up in the 80s & 90s, medieval European history, chivalry, and Lord's, knight's, and castle's were all beyond fascinating to myself & many others, even mythical and romanticized to us.
I thoroughly enjoyed, and benefited from, Dan's book on the Templars. He puts more flesh on the bones of men long dead than many historians are capable of.
Worth mentioning that prior to being a Mosque the Temple Mount was the second Jewish temple built by King Herod. This was well before the Arab conquests.
And to add, King herod built, the temple on top of the famous King solomon temple...
Wonderful, thank you. I was privileged to visit the Temple area in London recently, including the Temple Church.
Greetings from South Africa.
To the man who just explained all of this..
You had me at "triumphalist".. honestly, your ability to emerse yourself into history's bowels... to explain things from experiencial perspsctive.. brother, your view and thoughts are rare.
Blessed be.. never stop sharing the things in your minds eye...
~one of your American friends ❤🇺🇲🇬🇧❤
Thank you for the great video. I always was fascinated by history of templars
The Poles attempted to try to do the same thing to the Teutonic Order around the same time but because the Order created its own Monastic State in the Baltic and had the legal backing to their independence, the Order beat the charges in Court because the Poles couldn't touch any of the leaders.
And you can see why the Hospitallers conquered their own island-state on Rhodes at the same time.
For as well run the Templars were, they royally screwed up their opportunity on Cyprus to be independent.
I think the Poles eventually touched them
well hindsight is 20 20.
I loved to see more your Documentary history ❤️! Great historian ! Thank you very much.
I really enjoyed this interview. Thank you.
Thank you for this lovely video! I particularly liked the little discussion as to, why history? at the end 😍
Dan keeps history really fascinating, been watching his documentaries all weekend!
Thank you for such a great historical interview. I have learned more from this than I did with 12 years of parochial education. Thanks.
Fascinating chat, one of my favourite daydreams is to just imagine if the Templars were never betrayed, what would the organisation look in this day and age.
This interview hasten enlightening to me . Simply amazing. As a historian wannabe, specifically of the middle ages, knowing this info, listening of every detail he gets out its simp,y unforgiving. Amazing! Thank you for this.
Great interview it’s good to see history being told in a non bias way
Great interview - both the questions and responses were quite thought-provoking and intellectually honest...
I have enjoyed Dan Jones' content for a while. It's great seeing two historians I like having a chat like this 😀.
2 of my favourite historians in one conversation…,absolutely love it!
Excellent narrative lads, unlike most of the old fuddy duddy historians Dan kept it ‘real’ it was very easy to relate to I really enjoyed it. Looking forward to the next one, keep up the great work guys.
I think it depressing how poorly society has evolved or how arrogant of some to think their generation superior. The poor will suffer now just as then there will be bloodshed and corruption endlessly justice is fictional and people are distracted with romantic notions.
An excellent interview. I have most of Dan Jones' books and find him most interesting and absolutely thrilling
So young and so knowledgable and informative ! Thank you
Such a great interview. Thanks so much for letting each other speak without interruptions.
Great interview. Better than great. I always thought the most fascinating aspect of the history of the KT was how relatively quickly a vicious rumor mill perpetuated by those in power brought down one of the most efficient, wealthy, and notorious militias of the time. Imagine lasting almost 200 years and growing from peacekeepers and warriors to merchants, bankers, and influencers, only to be persecuted and brought down by the leader of the institution that empowered you in the first place. It's a great scandal, if you ask me.
You can watch the power of propoganda today. Watch it wielded against the FBI, the Justice Dept, medical advisors, schol boards, "election integrity", Bill Gates, the "liberal media", etc. If anything, it travels faster now, despite our unbelievable access to multiple verifiable information sources. Proof that people will believe what they want and what suits their world view, facts be damned.
Not just a rumour mill but the King of France who was secretly in deep debt to the KT.
With power comes greed. Every organisation has an arc. No need to romanticise the KT.
@@MrAnperm understood. And yet, King Phillip was heavily indebted to the KT. 🖐
@@MrAnperm I agree. But let’s not dismiss it either. It’s not so much about the fall of KT but rather how it was done and how easy it all went down. The Pope sanctioned the whole thing (essentially but not formally). That’s like Order 66 in Star Wars when all of a sudden this institution that has been built to watch and guard and act as a regulatory force against formal government is turned on by those who wanted more money and power. And the fact it was done under the pretense of spiritual infidelity is even more intense. The rumor mill to gain popular opinion was basically “these guys who are knights and bankers and land owners are actually devil worshippers and have fooled us all!” KT is interesting because it’s a power grab, betrayal, and witch hunt (literal) all at once and almost overnight.
Dan Jones should go see Casa Grande in Arizona, and many other great kivas in that region. They are not castles by European standards, but my goodness are they epic and impressive.
I live in the Phoenix area and have visited Casa Grande, it is amazing. The Hohokams also have a settlement with a gaming arena (for a lack of a better name) at Pueblo Grande at Washington and 44th st in Phoenix.
I thoroughly enjoyed this talk. The last section re ideas on the nature of history was especially enlightning. Thanks
Nice to see young people interested in Templar History.
"Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword." Matthew 10:34
In an interview format, you both come across as far more intelligent and knowledgeable than in your more formal roles as presenters. Riveting.
Great interview. We American's have the interest in Euro history because we only really unite as American's when we are in conflict. Otherwise we are a nation of hyphenated lineage. Where our families came from is often more important than where they are today.
I’m American, Dan you are right, we Americans are fascinated by the depth of history England, France and Europe has at every turn. Our history is either to a very small amount of the 17th century and newer or even fewer amounts of Native Civilizations in the form of petroglyphs or stone or mud structures. And as you said most of us have European ancestors so we are interested on what their lives may have been like.
As a Texan, I thoroughly agree.
I would advise a field trip to Guedelon in France. Some madlads made a theme park consisting in the building of a real castle using the traditional tools and medieval methods. It might be expensive but it's one of those once in a life time trips that leave you with a knowledge very few over there have.
In Portugal Templars were not persecuted, their order was extint of course, but their lands and men were passed to a new order, expressly created to absorb them in 1319, the Order of Christ, extinct in 1834 and then transformed in an honorary order, that still exists today. Great video.
What does extint mean?
When the Knights Templar were injured or grew too old they went to Dinmore Manor just north of Hereford where they were cared until they died.It is now privately owned having originally been bought by the man who made a fortune by his invention of 'Cat's Eyes' used in British two way roads to reflect on a vehicle's headlights.
We lived in the gatehouse in the middle of the 1950's. It became a racehorse stable.
I loved this interview and thank both you Dans so much
Outstanding Discussion, Thank You! 🌟
I love that so much. I could listen to that for days
For me, Dan Jones nailed it. When I speak to my friends from England they “meh” 🤷🏼♀️ the history of England. For me, it’s all so interesting. Castles, Ancient sites, Iron Age, Kings, Cathedrals…
What a fantastic insight provided by 2 very knowledgeable & passionate speakers Thank you both Dans- I am now a subscriber!!!! Brilliant
I havent listened to all, but we are past the bit when he explains how the Templars guarded the pilgrims - without mentioning the most important fact: They didnt accompany all pilgrims along the way (would have needed a whole army for that, at least). What they did is invent something like a credit card or travellers cheque. They took money from the pilgrims at home, gave them a record of that and the pilgrims could take out money at any Templar fort along the way, as much as they needed but not too much to prevent them from being "mugged". THAT is how they got rich. They were bankers.
Ah, that subject does come later, min 31ff. Inventers of financial industry.
I really enjoy this form of content. Would love to see more!
What a great conversation!
Terrific. Really enjoyed listening to Dan telling the "story". Fascinating.
Very well explained. I've recently discovered that one of my ancestors, William de Dowdeswelle was listed as a Knight Templar in 1185.
I presume he had children before joining the Templars.
Love this channel, tysm for the hard work involved
Thank you!!
@@HistoryHit There was no Russia as a country or state in 1099-1120. What pilligrims from russia in 1120? What the hell true history he is speaking of if he can't even distinguish Kievan Rus' from russia???!!!
Great historical summary thank you !!
What a fantastic chat between 2 greats. IMHO
Yes you need to study history, it gives you perspective on today's events. History tends to repeat itself in noticeable patterns.
The Fourth Turning is worth a read! Predicted troubles until 2030. Written in 1990s.
That was wonderful, simply wonderful. The UK is blessed by being filled with so many contemporary fascinating historians; these two being prime examples. Well done.
Very funny intro - I've often confused the two history Dans! Great to see them together x
My favoruite story about the whole ordeal is that the leader of the Templar order reputedly cursed Philip IV at his execution. Following this Philip died, not one of his many sons managed to produce an heir, and we have the 100 Years' War.
Dan Jones is an absolute ledge! We need more Great British Castles! Maybe great EUROPEAN CASTLES!