These guys are pretty much mic dropping as they have now written back to back $2 billion dollar screen plays, and they own Hollywood. They are living a screenwriters dream.
They literally zoom in on a shot of Mjolnir with only it in the frame for 2+ seconds right before zooming out and showing Cap lifting it up and holding it before jumping. People are dumb
I dont do birthdays Right next to the questions “why could Steve summon lightning”, “why did Gamora come back from the Soul Stone and Nat didn’t”, and “why did Thanos’ gauntlet change from left handed to right handed”.
I didn't hate it, but I didn't like it for the same exact reason that I didn't like the "team up" shot at the beginning of The Age of Ultron. Both are too cheesy for me.
@@themadtitan7603 What the Russos said is more within what's been established. Changing the past is impossible, and we were never given a reference for something like Cap being in the main timeline for this time. We have more reference for the alternate timeline interpretation. However, the film established that timelines only branch if a stone is moved. The core issue is that it wasn't explained enough. There wouldn't be this confusion if there were more scenes establishing these rules.
@@ginge641 the Russos answer is the definitive answer. The writers said in another interview their answer will be the one marvel go forward with. It's just they prefer the more poetic ending of Peggy's kids always being Cap's.
One thing that also gets lost [even by the writers?]. There is a difference between the Quantum realm based theory of time travel....and the time stone. The Quantum realm obeys the MCU laws of time travel physics. But the Infinity Stones -do not- obey laws of physics....they *command* them. The time stone can do all kinds of things with time that the Quantum bridge and Pym particles cannot.
In the Dr. Strange movie, the ancient one stated that the time stone wouldn't let her see past her own death. I still don't understand how Dr. Strange could see past the time where he died (seeing the Rat turn antmans Van on, and see the time heist ect.). But it would make sense if he was able to see the point where he came back alive (after Hulk's snapped everyone back into existence). So the movie's plot does make sense, but not for the reason the writers say it does.
What??????? 2014 Thanos got killed in 2023 so for that particular timeline there is no Thanos that will get stones. That's a alternate reality. How come they say no????
@@dyltack5349 He wouldn't be able to time travel anymore but he could get all of the stones in the 2014 timeline again and actually destroy the entire universe. If you leave Thanos alive in any way then he will end up getting the stones
I dunno, I think both have great writers but was hugely disappointed by both. No doubt GOT failed worse for sure, but Endgame dropped the ball for me too. Time and rushing things was GOT’s problem, and time travel and focusing so much on it instead of showing something new or writing a more creative way to reverse or undo things was Endgame’s demise for me personally. It just seemed so lazy and underwhelming compared to Infinity War especially. BUT I just personally hate most time travel stories and get too distracted by all the problems that come with it, and I know most people enjoyed it and that’s great!
@@sociallydistant9000 While I personally loved the film, I super respect you and your ability to to be relaxed in your personal dissatisfaction with the movie. Not everybody is chill with difference in opinions (especially when it comes to movie nerds :P). I hope the future of the MCU isn't muddled by the time travel stuff and that you love what is to come.
The issue with Cap and the timelines is most likely that Winter Soldier was written with the idea that Cap would always be the man that Peggy had married. However..... when Infinity Saga was told, they decided that the back to the future rules of time travel wouldn’t work, because well...they actually don’t make sense. So they basically retconned the original concept to the way the directors, the Russo Brothers describe - as alternate timelines. I think that is why the writers and the directors don’t agree.
Dude, the writers are full of it. They retconned Steve as Peg's husband and are trying to be all clever about it like it was always intended. No way. If they knew he was always going to be Peg's husband, then that crap they wrote with Steve and Sharon is creepy, and they're warped for it.
They definitely weren’t planning that far ahead. They only started writing Infinity War around the time they finished writing Civil War. I do like to think that it fits though.
Colonel Arkham : The writers were planning to have Cap get together with Peggy, that was so clearly foreshadowed that it was the one plot development that fans predicted before seeing End Game.
4:48 Here they disagree with the Russos. I prefer the alternate timeline explanation because with this idea, it's suggested Cap just sat back and did nothing to prevent countless horrible things from happening (Bucky, Hydra, Vietnam, 9/11), which I don't buy at all. Interfering in Peggy's life created an alternate timeline and he was able to make a better world in that reality.
I agree with this. BUT I can understand the angle in which Steve would just want to be invisible and live a normal life. But if we know anything of Cap's character, he wouldn't have been quiet enough to not have had to making the world a better place. Peggy has a pretty similar rebellious mindset. So chances are, they would've lived a good life AND helped out the world.
@@carluyabut2824 If they ever want to dramatise this in a movie or TV show, initial reluctance would definitely work. Imagine Steve witnessing the JFK assassination with a clenched jaw and going, "No more hiding."
There are three glitches in the timeline as I see it. First of all, we have to assume that the timeline we know stays as it is, unchanged. Changing something in the past does not change that "prime" timeline, but instead breaks off a branch timeline. This means there are three branches that could not be closed off, and one presents a paradox. First, we have Thanos and Nebula. They left their timeline at 2014, but never returned, meaning there's a branch there where NONE of the events after 2014 happened as they did in the prime timeline. That means no snap(s), so Tony would survive that timeline. Second, we have Loki stealing the space stone (Tesseract). Cap returned it to 1970, but in 2012, Loki steals it and disappears, meaning events after the first Avengers film would unfold differently. Loki would not be in Asgard for Dark World, and so might not be in a position to take over Asgard... meaning he wouldn't be there in Ragnarok. However, he would still have access to the Tesseract if he encountered Thanos again, so Infinity War might still unfold as in the prime timeline. Third, Cap goes into the past and marries Peggy. This would create a branch where he and Peggy were together... but it should not intersect with the prime timeline, which means he should not be there to give the shield to Falcon. This is the paradox. He can't be in BOTH timelines.
Exactly! They set up their TT rules, then they broke them all over the place for Cap fan service. Yea, have fun fixing things because they've already cashed their paychecks. #MarvelFail
I don't get the A force moment being controversial at all, sure it's not like Captain Marvel needed the help so I thought the suggestion from Nando where it was Nebula and Gamora being the ones who had the Gauntlet and needed a path to be cleared with help from all the women would have been a slightly stronger moment since Nebula really was one of the MVPs of the movie and after killing her younger self her story just kinda stopped, also it would be a reversal of what she did in the comics and then have Carol be the one to almost bring it to the truck. But other than that I felt it was a badass shot while also having an emotional beat with Natasha not being there as well. We got the "trinity" fighting Thanos on their own so why complain about them doing a call out to A Force?
The scene with all the women coming together to help out Cpt Marvel was cheesy, but awesomely cheesy, that's what Superhero movies are all about, they're awesomely cheesy, clichéd, feel-good films and I love them.
Chade Fallstar word...I was literally amazed and wow and at the same time like “really, as strong as captain marvel is, she don’t need nobody help, shit she the strongest person in the whole movie”..but still at the same time I was like yooooooooooo going crazy lol
@Funk O'Matic bro, they did into the spiderverse, the Lego movie, that burger one raining, 21 jump street (and star wars shouldn't be all serious), the comedy doesn't feel misplaced. They were gonna direct a star wRs movie but later they didn't let them
zrifepsych I love these guys and they’re amazing but their viewpoint makes no logical sense. Taking infinity stones out of timelines shouldn’t be a requirement for creating alternate timelines. Just entering the past changes it. Butterfly effect.
ihatesuperheros The Russos say the same thing that I believe, that Cap going back to marry Peggy created an alternate timeline. Btw, interesting screen name for this vid 😬.
@@pzaatan5082 Russo bros said Cap and Peggy married in a different timeline(branch) and then jump back to the main timeline decades later. In the main timeline Peggy's kids are not Steve's kids.
Nothing is canon until it's made explicit in the source material. So even their comments and the Russos' are speculation until stated in a Marvel movie as fact. We just don't know. Could even be a soul stone thing.
I have to disagree with the part there they think it’s all one timeline. Loki picked up the tesseract and got away. They failed that part of the mission and didn’t get that stone so it had to create a new timeline, right? He has the space stone in another timeline right now. Edit: and I also disagree with the fact that cap himself didn’t create a new timeline by living out his life with Peggy. Because as said in the movie, if you change the past it doesn’t change your future and vice versa. It just creates a new timeline. So by going back and “changing” the past he made a new timeline...
Kayla Figueroa cap would have to return the space stone into the tesseract and put it back into the case and some how give the case to the 2012 avengers
There is no version of the MCU with one Universe on a single continuous timeline. It does not work - at all. The minute Tony and Bruce explain that when you go into the past that becomes your future, and you have to be anchored in your own time, that idea goes out the window. Look at it this way. If Captain America goes back in time and returns to the present by aging he has rewritten the past to include his presence. The minute Thanos and Nebula are killed, and Gamora is replaced by a version of herself from the past the timeline rewrites itself, and Guardians, and every movie following it can't happen, so Sam Wilson can't be waiting for Cap to return from the past without the infinity stones. This is so obvious within the film's rules that the directors admitted that Cap found his way back to his own universe's present via unknown means.
How are you going to disagree with the two men who thought up, wrote and created those ideas? These are the writers of these films.. That’s like you making up a story and somebody tellin you not, you wrong about this or This part..and you are like how am I wrong when I made it!
Terence Howard thought up the idea that 1 x 1 = 2. His reason being that saying one times itself is still one is like saying one isn't worth anything It's his idea. He created it. Is Terence Howard right?
Lex Bezel They wrote the film, but they aren’t the end all be all. The directors themselves don’t agree with everything these writers have stated about whether or not cap is in a different timeline. People can disagree 🤷🏻♀️
I feel like in every interview Chris Markus forgets something about his own movie XD I’m positive the Ancient One said that they only needed the stones back because it was their best line of defense against evil, nothing about that being the only way a new timeline is created. And Bruce made it sound that the very act of going back in time creates a new timeline since you were never there before. As for Steve coming back, I’m sure between the ancient one and the stones that he probably was able to find a way back
SlothKing the new reality wasn’t her issue though. The fact that they wouldn’t have the stones in their new reality was the issue. The ancient one seemed to believe that the stones were tools for good, hence why she kept the Time Stone and why she and Strange swore to protect it. I even double checked a leaked clip on UA-cam to be sure, lol
We need to talk about the fact that they're such good writers that they're unintentionally setting up other characters like x-men and Namor without even trying to. Expanding the universe with brilliant throwaway lines and concepts. These guys have the ability to set up multiple threads for other movies like it's nothing. it's nuts. Marvel doesn't even need to think about how to introduce those characters now. The groundwork has been laid. I'm sure these guys are incredible in pitch meetings and brainstorming sessions.
I like it, they're writing it like it's well a comic. Do enough subtle set ups for future writers to work with. Like in the comics where other writers pick up from the other.
I would love to see these two and the russo brothers talk about the movie together. Which I guess comic-con yeah? But either way I want to hear those four tall about the timelines.
The "only taking the stones makes an alternate timeline" thing doesn't work. If it did, then the original question about killing Thanos as a baby would work. It has to be the time travel that makes all these because otherwise, Thanos leaving in the past and never coming back would change history. Alternate timelines explains most of the movie fine, except for Cap. To reconcile how Cap is still in our own timeline as an old man - I would propose that it works differently when you DON'T return, but ride the timeline all the way back up like he did. That's the one thing that's different. So, when you go back in time, it creates a temporary second split, but as long as you're there it's like pinching two strings together (the universes are entangled) and sliding your fingers up. The moment you leave and return to your time, it's like letting go of the two strings and they separate, at the point you first arrived in the past.
I think the way it works is that, if you take the infinity stones, you create parallel timelines, but if you don't, you're stuck within a stable time loop. No matter how hard you try, you can't change anything that happened in the past that didn't already happen. If they'd have tried to kill baby Thanos, they would have failed, no matter how hard they tried, because the past is always set in stone unless you start messing with the infinity stones.
"The Dutch put mayonaise on their French fries". Yes we do , where else would you put mayonnaise on? Just wondering...😂 (It's a joke, I know you can put mayonnaise on other stuff, but is putting mayonnaise on your fries that weird?)
Endgame specifically says that time is not a loop so how could cap always being Peggy’s husband doesn’t make sense other wise why would he have created an alternate time line. Plus if you watch the Peggy Carter interview it’s clear at that point that Steve had not come back. So that theory doesn’t really hold up.
blackknightkanos yes but they already said time is not a loop so it’s just not possible. Steve going back do be with Peggy is the first time that’s ever happened so the Peggy we see in our timeline is not married to Steve. Plus I’m pretty sure she wouldn’t have got as emotional in the meeting seeing as how nobody even knew they had a relationship it’s clearly not what the writers had in mind.
ultrulord 2424 Basically it would mean that the entire MCU after First Avenger took place in an alternate timeline created by Steve Rogers and there’s an original universe we’ve never seen in which Bucky and Falcon are still waiting for Steve to show up.
They can't possibly be Steve's kids? That would negate the time travel rules for the whole rest of the movie? You cannot impact the past by something you do in the future, it only opens alternate realities. How do they not see that? It would be very cool, but completely break's Endgame's internal logic.
about the mjolnir alt timeline. steve had it with him when he time travelled with all the stones. i assumed he left mjolnir there when he dropped off the eather.
selwyn tan I like it too. People who are so ignorant about “mayo on hotdogs” probably don’t travel outside of their own country much, especially not to Hong Kong or Japan 😆
I wish you had asked what is so wrong with putting coffee grounds down the disposal! I do it all the time and have not found any ill effects. Toni complains about it in Civil War.
How about the timeline that Cap goes back in time and watches and/or help raise Tony Stark. He could be Tony’s Uncle Steve or god parent. Also, Steve goes back and saves Buckey, because it’s Buckey; which means Morgan, Tony and Pepper’s daughter, gets to know her grandparents. Also Cap and Peggy’s kids should be around the same age as Tony.
Imagine if avengers went to back before thanos destroys the stones n give him a suprise attack but maybe not killing him instead of going back to 2012/2013 for the stones
They didn’t even answer the first question, he was asking about the theory that there could have been other ways to defeat Thanos but in order for the world to be safe he needed to destroy the Infinity Stones, otherwise somebody else gets ahold of them and the Avengers would still lose
What about 2014 Thanos not going back to his original timeline? Who snapped the gauntlet in 2018 if 2014 Thanos was dead or didn’t go back?? Isn’t that an alternate timeline?
Fei Halim Yea it would be but this guy didn’t press them about it and he brought it up again with the Spider-Man question and they acted confused. So idk
These guys are the best superhero writers because they seem like the only guys in Hollywood who actually know what heroism is. Every other writer seems to only know how to write "revenge" and call it heroism.
We not gonna talk about how captain america returns the soul stone so is it possible that black widow would come back?? You give a soul for the soul stone but if you return the soul stone what happens??
Internet law: Haters are never in the majority. Ther Internet has a way of making it feel like a few hundreds of thousends of haters speak for the entire fanbase, but they simply pale to the millions that make up said audience. Wherever you are at live events, like conventions, people ALWAYS cheer. But the internet, where cheering isn't fun and people can hide behind anonymity, is fertile ground for haters.
I thought the women Avengers gang thing, on a story level, made me go "huh, why is the movie pausing to set this up?", because it felt shoe-horned in. It probably would've felt more convincing if they had spent a couple of more minutes setting it up, to where they all happened to end up in the same place. I just wrote it off, but at the same time I was thinking, actually how often would we get another opportunity for everyone to be in the same place like that? How many other blockbuster franchises can claim to have that many prominent fan-favorite female heroes? So ultimately, I would have to say eh what the heck, let 'em have some fun playing with that angle, because the reality is the ratio of male to female heroes is unfortunately still about 5 to 1, or 10 to 1. Although I think it would have been also cool if they gathered up all the bug-themed heroes, too. lol
Yeah I thought it was pandering when Tony, Cap and Thor just happened to meet each other just in time to fight Thanos together. It felt shoehorned in but maybe if they spent a few more minutes setting it up it would have been better but at that point I was like eh let the guys have fun.
Other than it also being a nod to A-Force, the all-female Avengers from the comics, I think it was also just acknowledgment of how expansive the MCU has become. We only had Black Widow for some time but now there are a lot more female characters who will be carrying the stories and the franchise forward. It didn't bother me personally but I see why people feel the way they do.
I always put mayo in a hotdog. Actually, just this very morning, I prepared a hotdog sandwich for my wife and I's breakfast - with mayo. To hear somebody say that it's disgusting, I may have to re-evaluate my life's choices. (or, it may be normal and it's just that some other people don't know.)
"I believe there aren't any of these alternate time lines..." So does that mean that Steve goes to 2014 and snaps Thanos back into existance and then skidaddles to 2012 and snaps Loki back into Thors hands? Why did Tony sacrifice himself if Steve was just going to do that twice in one go and still manage to comeout as a good looking 120-ish year old man
I think alternate timeline still exist because the Thanos from the alt-timeline came to this timeline only to be killed. And that alt-timeline everyone has no more Thanos issue. Even when the stone is being placed back to its place.
7:07 This is wrong. In 2012 New York, Loki escapes with a Space Stone that Cap was unable to return, because 2023 Tony dropped it. There is, at least, THAT alternate reality.
Guys, I love you, you helped give us one of the best movies of all time, but that girl power scene was such a forced pandering one, you just did to do it, and you basically admit to it within a few minutes of showing it. All the women randomly show up to help Cpt Marvel, leaving their counterparts who are in serious danger to assist this random woman most of them don’t know, who just entered the earth from another planet, blew up Thanos’ ship and seems to have taken zero damage. They group up, and in the very next shot we see Cpt Marvel in, she’s all alone, plowing through the Outriders with no effort whatsoever, and even ends up facing Thanos himself. All. Alone. None of the others are anywhere in sight. So in the context of the scene, they all happened to be in the same area, abandoned the ones they care about, and seconds later, Carol simply dashed through them, leaving them in the dust, and they just said “eh, cool, let’s keep on fighting”. Let’s not pretend it was something else other than pandering and ticking a checklist.
I'm still confused as to how the second Steve Rogers that's in the past existed. Did the future Steve Rogers have to kill that one? Like... this movie was confusing af
One question... I thought the infinity stones can’t be held by a person unless they have enough power or a celestial to hold it. Explained in Gotg1. Does that go for just the Power Stone? Or for all stones?
I just became obsessed with the idea of Steve Rodgers kids in the MCU. What if he has a boy and a girl. The girl gets a portion of his super strength and tries to follow in Steve's footsteps, working for S.H.I.E.L.D then dawning the role as Captain America. The boy doesn't have super strength but is smart and strategic like his mom so he gets in with the Stark's as a new/alternate universe Iron Man. He could get in with Howard and have Tony grow up with this 1970's Iron Man and Female Captain America to look up to but also resent them for being his fathers greatest creations in the same way Captain America was to Howard in the main MCU timeline. Then what if alternate Iron Man gets taken in and brainwashed by Hydra agents in S.H.I.E.L.D the same way they did to Bucky. He start working as a sleeper cell for Hydra and his sister Captain America has to stop him, similar to the events in Winter Soldier/Civil War.
scampoli25 this is so good. I have also been getting lost in all the possibilities, it’s so exciting there is so much they could do there are so many stories to be told and actual good stories.
@@sophiewong9588 Thank you. I completely agree, normally I could care less about tv spin offs of Marvel stuff but they have set up so many great avenues to go down after Endgame that I can't wait to see what they do with the expanded universe.
Cap uses the Reality stone right before entering the quantum realm to make Bruce, Sam and Bucky see the illusion of him entering the quantum realm, and sitting as an old man. Cap have already restored his shield using the Time stone, and hands it over to him there. Then he enters the quantum realm for real, returns all the stones, travels to the have his dance and creates an alternate timeline without having to travel back to the original one. The movies shows us events in this order because it is how Steve experienced the events chronologically.
He's grown as a character. People keep complaining that Hulk doesn't smash anymore but he'd been doing that now for 4 films already. I like that they've mixed it up
The women of Marvel scene in the final battle certainly felt pandery, though I wouldn't call itcringey. DAMN it is distracting though. It just pulled me immediately out of the battle and deflated the stakes because it was so obvious and intentional. It didn't exactly ruin it. I still loved the battle. I just don't see why they couldn't have done what they did without being so damned obvious. You can show Valkyrie, Capt. Marvel, The Wasp, Mantis, Pepper, Etc. being badasses without the "girl power" moment. I had the same issue with the ridiculous song choice at the end of Captain Marvel. The second that song started playing, you know the battle was won, and this was all just silly.
Veeery cagey...About alternate timelines/multiverse stuff. As if they have an idea it might become more relevant in Phase 4? Cards close to the chest on this one
These guys are pretty much mic dropping as they have now written back to back $2 billion dollar screen plays, and they own Hollywood.
They are living a screenwriters dream.
Absolute legends.
What a great interview! Fun, brisk, questions were well-asked. Editing was perfect. The energy never dropped. Nice.
Steve Rogers had Mjolnir with him when he took the infinity stones back, so obviously, he placed it back in its proper place and time as well....
I get so tired of people asking that question. The hammer was clearly visible when Captain America went back in time. People don't pay attention.
They literally zoom in on a shot of Mjolnir with only it in the frame for 2+ seconds right before zooming out and showing Cap lifting it up and holding it before jumping. People are dumb
I dont do birthdays
Right next to the questions “why could Steve summon lightning”, “why did Gamora come back from the Soul Stone and Nat didn’t”, and “why did Thanos’ gauntlet change from left handed to right handed”.
@@Sa-fd7ih I think the answer to the first one it static cling.....
@@stevenirons8564 "Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor." - Odin
This guy Patrick is good...like, damn good. Great interviewer, great questions, and he knows his shit!
Except how to pronounce Mjølnir :( GREAT interview though
@@shrimpgripper majooooolneeeeeer
I liked the ladies team-up moment cause it made me go "oh, right... people talk about Captain Marvel but we already had all these awsome gals"
Stop lying. She was the first EVERYTHING!
Bongoslam THANKS YOU VERRRRY MUCH
I didn't hate it, but I didn't like it for the same exact reason that I didn't like the "team up" shot at the beginning of The Age of Ultron. Both are too cheesy for me.
5:22 don't call them plucky. they don't know what it means
I don't think they're contradicting what the Russos said, there just stating what they personally think happened.
Which contradicts what the Russos said. A definitive answer is important.
@Noel Oommen The Russos said Cap married Peggy in an alternate timeline, while the writers here are saying he married her in the main timeline.
@@ginge641 Fair point. Which if I may ask: who's answer are you more inclined to agree with the Russos or Markus and Stephen Mcfeely ?
@@themadtitan7603 What the Russos said is more within what's been established. Changing the past is impossible, and we were never given a reference for something like Cap being in the main timeline for this time. We have more reference for the alternate timeline interpretation. However, the film established that timelines only branch if a stone is moved.
The core issue is that it wasn't explained enough. There wouldn't be this confusion if there were more scenes establishing these rules.
@@ginge641 the Russos answer is the definitive answer. The writers said in another interview their answer will be the one marvel go forward with. It's just they prefer the more poetic ending of Peggy's kids always being Cap's.
One thing that also gets lost [even by the writers?].
There is a difference between the Quantum realm based theory of time travel....and the time stone.
The Quantum realm obeys the MCU laws of time travel physics.
But the Infinity Stones -do not- obey laws of physics....they *command* them.
The time stone can do all kinds of things with time that the Quantum bridge and Pym particles cannot.
This ^
In the Dr. Strange movie, the ancient one stated that the time stone wouldn't let her see past her own death.
I still don't understand how Dr. Strange could see past the time where he died (seeing the Rat turn antmans Van on, and see the time heist ect.). But it would make sense if he was able to see the point where he came back alive (after Hulk's snapped everyone back into existence). So the movie's plot does make sense, but not for the reason the writers say it does.
What???????
2014 Thanos got killed in 2023 so for that particular timeline there is no Thanos that will get stones. That's a alternate reality. How come they say no????
Because returning the stones erases all alternate timelines
I thought he just got sent back to 2014
@@dyltack5349 But if they just sent him back to 2014 then he would always still be a threat. They needed to kill him
Raymond Mach how he doesn’t have any pym particles left nor does he know who or what they are
@@dyltack5349 He wouldn't be able to time travel anymore but he could get all of the stones in the 2014 timeline again and actually destroy the entire universe. If you leave Thanos alive in any way then he will end up getting the stones
Every GoT fan is jealous of Marvel having good writers :/
I dunno, I think both have great writers but was hugely disappointed by both. No doubt GOT failed worse for sure, but Endgame dropped the ball for me too. Time and rushing things was GOT’s problem, and time travel and focusing so much on it instead of showing something new or writing a more creative way to reverse or undo things was Endgame’s demise for me personally. It just seemed so lazy and underwhelming compared to Infinity War especially. BUT I just personally hate most time travel stories and get too distracted by all the problems that come with it, and I know most people enjoyed it and that’s great!
Marshall Godsey afaik the big dog Kevin Feige wanted time traveling so the writers just had to write around that
Good writers? Please, all the plot holes and gender assignments and bad humor and the snap reversal problems.
@@sociallydistant9000 While I personally loved the film, I super respect you and your ability to to be relaxed in your personal dissatisfaction with the movie. Not everybody is chill with difference in opinions (especially when it comes to movie nerds :P).
I hope the future of the MCU isn't muddled by the time travel stuff and that you love what is to come.
10:52 yes! Who else love hearing this guy say all these theories to them
The issue with Cap and the timelines is most likely that Winter Soldier was written with the idea that Cap would always be the man that Peggy had married.
However..... when Infinity Saga was told, they decided that the back to the future rules of time travel wouldn’t work, because well...they actually don’t make sense.
So they basically retconned the original concept to the way the directors, the Russo Brothers describe - as alternate timelines.
I think that is why the writers and the directors don’t agree.
Dude, the writers are full of it. They retconned Steve as Peg's husband and are trying to be all clever about it like it was always intended. No way. If they knew he was always going to be Peg's husband, then that crap they wrote with Steve and Sharon is creepy, and they're warped for it.
@@ScarletVoodoo Wrong.
Steve and Peggy getting together is clearly foreshadowed in Winter Soldier.
@@ScarletVoodoo uhm every heard of Back to the Future and Star Wars. Marty and his mom, Luke and Leia. Nothing even happened
They definitely weren’t planning that far ahead. They only started writing Infinity War around the time they finished writing Civil War. I do like to think that it fits though.
Colonel Arkham : The writers were planning to have Cap get together with Peggy, that was so clearly foreshadowed that it was the one plot development that fans predicted before seeing End Game.
4:48 Here they disagree with the Russos. I prefer the alternate timeline explanation because with this idea, it's suggested Cap just sat back and did nothing to prevent countless horrible things from happening (Bucky, Hydra, Vietnam, 9/11), which I don't buy at all. Interfering in Peggy's life created an alternate timeline and he was able to make a better world in that reality.
Exactly... I think the Russos are smarter than these 2... Which Im thankful for :)
I agree with this. BUT I can understand the angle in which Steve would just want to be invisible and live a normal life. But if we know anything of Cap's character, he wouldn't have been quiet enough to not have had to making the world a better place. Peggy has a pretty similar rebellious mindset. So chances are, they would've lived a good life AND helped out the world.
@@carluyabut2824 If they ever want to dramatise this in a movie or TV show, initial reluctance would definitely work. Imagine Steve witnessing the JFK assassination with a clenched jaw and going, "No more hiding."
I agree with you.. but unfortunately still lazy writing for ending him with beggy.. like that sooo selfish decisions
@@shazae4415 I thought it fit. He deserved to retire and always felt out of place in the modern world.
There are three glitches in the timeline as I see it. First of all, we have to assume that the timeline we know stays as it is, unchanged. Changing something in the past does not change that "prime" timeline, but instead breaks off a branch timeline. This means there are three branches that could not be closed off, and one presents a paradox.
First, we have Thanos and Nebula. They left their timeline at 2014, but never returned, meaning there's a branch there where NONE of the events after 2014 happened as they did in the prime timeline. That means no snap(s), so Tony would survive that timeline.
Second, we have Loki stealing the space stone (Tesseract). Cap returned it to 1970, but in 2012, Loki steals it and disappears, meaning events after the first Avengers film would unfold differently. Loki would not be in Asgard for Dark World, and so might not be in a position to take over Asgard... meaning he wouldn't be there in Ragnarok. However, he would still have access to the Tesseract if he encountered Thanos again, so Infinity War might still unfold as in the prime timeline.
Third, Cap goes into the past and marries Peggy. This would create a branch where he and Peggy were together... but it should not intersect with the prime timeline, which means he should not be there to give the shield to Falcon. This is the paradox. He can't be in BOTH timelines.
Exactly! They set up their TT rules, then they broke them all over the place for Cap fan service. Yea, have fun fixing things because they've already cashed their paychecks. #MarvelFail
I don't get the A force moment being controversial at all, sure it's not like Captain Marvel needed the help so I thought the suggestion from Nando where it was Nebula and Gamora being the ones who had the Gauntlet and needed a path to be cleared with help from all the women would have been a slightly stronger moment since Nebula really was one of the MVPs of the movie and after killing her younger self her story just kinda stopped, also it would be a reversal of what she did in the comics and then have Carol be the one to almost bring it to the truck. But other than that I felt it was a badass shot while also having an emotional beat with Natasha not being there as well. We got the "trinity" fighting Thanos on their own so why complain about them doing a call out to A Force?
Damn that 'Full head of hair' line at 5:15 - #tight
We can only dream we look like that when we’re 65, let alone 120.
This guy is mispronouncing half of the MARVEL jargon
Yeah I picked up on that real quick. Shows a lack of interest and only in it for the clicks.
Thay-nos? Me-ol-ner? Really?
@Gavin Orth myir-myir? what's myir-myir?
The scene with all the women coming together to help out Cpt Marvel was cheesy, but awesomely cheesy, that's what Superhero movies are all about, they're awesomely cheesy, clichéd, feel-good films and I love them.
Chade Fallstar word...I was literally amazed and wow and at the same time like “really, as strong as captain marvel is, she don’t need nobody help, shit she the strongest person in the whole movie”..but still at the same time I was like yooooooooooo going crazy lol
Hey Disney, fire D&D and let these guys write a Star Wars trilogy.
@Funk O'Matic Lord Miller would be better
@Funk O'Matic bro, they did into the spiderverse, the Lego movie, that burger one raining, 21 jump street (and star wars shouldn't be all serious), the comedy doesn't feel misplaced. They were gonna direct a star wRs movie but later they didn't let them
I’m two years late but I just had a full MCU rerun with my family and wow, great interview! Thoughtful and well-researched questions.
Interesting, so them and Russo bros have different intention for CapnPeggy situation.
zrifepsych I love these guys and they’re amazing but their viewpoint makes no logical sense. Taking infinity stones out of timelines shouldn’t be a requirement for creating alternate timelines. Just entering the past changes it. Butterfly effect.
What is Russo bros intention?
ihatesuperheros The Russos say the same thing that I believe, that Cap going back to marry Peggy created an alternate timeline. Btw, interesting screen name for this vid 😬.
@@pzaatan5082 Russo bros said Cap and Peggy married in a different timeline(branch) and then jump back to the main timeline decades later. In the main timeline Peggy's kids are not Steve's kids.
Nothing is canon until it's made explicit in the source material. So even their comments and the Russos' are speculation until stated in a Marvel movie as fact.
We just don't know. Could even be a soul stone thing.
I have to disagree with the part there they think it’s all one timeline. Loki picked up the tesseract and got away. They failed that part of the mission and didn’t get that stone so it had to create a new timeline, right? He has the space stone in another timeline right now.
Edit: and I also disagree with the fact that cap himself didn’t create a new timeline by living out his life with Peggy. Because as said in the movie, if you change the past it doesn’t change your future and vice versa. It just creates a new timeline. So by going back and “changing” the past he made a new timeline...
Kayla Figueroa cap would have to return the space stone into the tesseract and put it back into the case and some how give the case to the 2012 avengers
There is no version of the MCU with one Universe on a single continuous timeline. It does not work - at all. The minute Tony and Bruce explain that when you go into the past that becomes your future, and you have to be anchored in your own time, that idea goes out the window.
Look at it this way. If Captain America goes back in time and returns to the present by aging he has rewritten the past to include his presence.
The minute Thanos and Nebula are killed, and Gamora is replaced by a version of herself from the past the timeline rewrites itself, and Guardians, and every movie following it can't happen, so Sam Wilson can't be waiting for Cap to return from the past without the infinity stones.
This is so obvious within the film's rules that the directors admitted that Cap found his way back to his own universe's present via unknown means.
How are you going to disagree with the two men who thought up, wrote and created those ideas?
These are the writers of these films..
That’s like you making up a story and somebody tellin you not, you wrong about this or This part..and you are like how am I wrong when I made it!
Terence Howard thought up the idea that 1 x 1 = 2. His reason being that saying one times itself is still one is like saying one isn't worth anything
It's his idea. He created it. Is Terence Howard right?
Lex Bezel They wrote the film, but they aren’t the end all be all. The directors themselves don’t agree with everything these writers have stated about whether or not cap is in a different timeline. People can disagree 🤷🏻♀️
Solid response to the heroine scene. They explained it very well.
I feel like in every interview Chris Markus forgets something about his own movie XD
I’m positive the Ancient One said that they only needed the stones back because it was their best line of defense against evil, nothing about that being the only way a new timeline is created. And Bruce made it sound that the very act of going back in time creates a new timeline since you were never there before. As for Steve coming back, I’m sure between the ancient one and the stones that he probably was able to find a way back
Watch the movie again, she says if he takes them away other timelines will start to be formed, and hulk rebuttals with the idea of returning them.
SlothKing the new reality wasn’t her issue though. The fact that they wouldn’t have the stones in their new reality was the issue. The ancient one seemed to believe that the stones were tools for good, hence why she kept the Time Stone and why she and Strange swore to protect it. I even double checked a leaked clip on UA-cam to be sure, lol
@@Reclaimer-eo1tl the new reality would be an issue to the Ancient One in that reality because in that new reality she wouldn't have the stone.
Bahot hi zyada intelligent brilliant log h yeh dono.
We need to talk about the fact that they're such good writers that they're unintentionally setting up other characters like x-men and Namor without even trying to. Expanding the universe with brilliant throwaway lines and concepts. These guys have the ability to set up multiple threads for other movies like it's nothing. it's nuts. Marvel doesn't even need to think about how to introduce those characters now. The groundwork has been laid. I'm sure these guys are incredible in pitch meetings and brainstorming sessions.
I like it, they're writing it like it's well a comic. Do enough subtle set ups for future writers to work with. Like in the comics where other writers pick up from the other.
Caps time travel journey would make a grt Film ....4-sure!!!
I would love to see these two and the russo brothers talk about the movie together. Which I guess comic-con yeah? But either way I want to hear those four tall about the timelines.
They all have completely different answers regarding the timeline stuff
MAYONNAISE ON “fries” \ chips is the best!
og87 you are a maniac 😂
Mayonnaise is the best, period.
og87 OK, now you HAVE to be snapped. ;P
myolnor :(
Still kinda miffed that Marvel are still maintaining Civil War was a Cap movie when it was clearly an Avengers one.
The "only taking the stones makes an alternate timeline" thing doesn't work. If it did, then the original question about killing Thanos as a baby would work. It has to be the time travel that makes all these because otherwise, Thanos leaving in the past and never coming back would change history. Alternate timelines explains most of the movie fine, except for Cap. To reconcile how Cap is still in our own timeline as an old man - I would propose that it works differently when you DON'T return, but ride the timeline all the way back up like he did. That's the one thing that's different. So, when you go back in time, it creates a temporary second split, but as long as you're there it's like pinching two strings together (the universes are entangled) and sliding your fingers up. The moment you leave and return to your time, it's like letting go of the two strings and they separate, at the point you first arrived in the past.
I think the way it works is that, if you take the infinity stones, you create parallel timelines, but if you don't, you're stuck within a stable time loop. No matter how hard you try, you can't change anything that happened in the past that didn't already happen. If they'd have tried to kill baby Thanos, they would have failed, no matter how hard they tried, because the past is always set in stone unless you start messing with the infinity stones.
"The Dutch put mayonaise on their French fries". Yes we do
, where else would you put mayonnaise on? Just wondering...😂
(It's a joke, I know you can put mayonnaise on other stuff, but is putting mayonnaise on your fries that weird?)
no its not weird, i have mayo with my fish and chips
Sandwiches
Yes, it really is. Then again, I think mayo is disgusting and shouldn't go on anything.
why is no one asking about cap meeting red skull !!?!?!?!?!?
Lots of people have and the answer is simple. He punched is fucking head off.
Endgame specifically says that time is not a loop so how could cap always being Peggy’s husband doesn’t make sense other wise why would he have created an alternate time line. Plus if you watch the Peggy Carter interview it’s clear at that point that Steve had not come back. So that theory doesn’t really hold up.
ultrulord 2424 Peggy is an agent of shield, I’m sure she would have found a way to cover up for Steve while also having a love life with him
obviously she would not disclose it cause if people found out it could cause the events of End Game to not occur the way it needs to.
blackknightkanos yes but they already said time is not a loop so it’s just not possible. Steve going back do be with Peggy is the first time that’s ever happened so the Peggy we see in our timeline is not married to Steve. Plus I’m pretty sure she wouldn’t have got as emotional in the meeting seeing as how nobody even knew they had a relationship it’s clearly not what the writers had in mind.
ultrulord 2424
Basically it would mean that the entire MCU after First Avenger took place in an alternate timeline created by Steve Rogers and there’s an original universe we’ve never seen in which Bucky and Falcon are still waiting for Steve to show up.
@@jonmkl that's not possible, that's the only universe where they win.
They can't possibly be Steve's kids? That would negate the time travel rules for the whole rest of the movie? You cannot impact the past by something you do in the future, it only opens alternate realities. How do they not see that? It would be very cool, but completely break's Endgame's internal logic.
All the Caps just shifted one timeline to the left,so they are Steves kids just not our Steves.
@@joshuah.8809 Hah all the caps shifting one timeline to the left is a good way of describing it.
because we have been in the reality Cap created since Iron Man 1
about the mjolnir alt timeline. steve had it with him when he time travelled with all the stones. i assumed he left mjolnir there when he dropped off the eather.
David Kernachan he would have to know exactly where it was the moment thor summoned it
Wielding the infinity stones is not a matter of worthiness.
I guess i'm a psychopath. I LOVE mayonaise on a hotdog!
I'm sorry then but you'll have to be snapped out of existence oh wait...
selwyn tan
I like it too. People who are so ignorant about “mayo on hotdogs” probably don’t travel outside of their own country much, especially not to Hong Kong or Japan 😆
Try mayo and shredded cheese. Now that's amazing
I'm not exactly opposed to to the idea, but I've never tired it. Maybe I'll give it a tussle.
I wish you had asked what is so wrong with putting coffee grounds down the disposal! I do it all the time and have not found any ill effects. Toni complains about it in Civil War.
How about the timeline that Cap goes back in time and watches and/or help raise Tony Stark. He could be Tony’s Uncle Steve or god parent. Also, Steve goes back and saves Buckey, because it’s Buckey; which means Morgan, Tony and Pepper’s daughter, gets to know her grandparents. Also Cap and Peggy’s kids should be around the same age as Tony.
I just posted this exact thought
Oh this is mine.....
Great interview
Imagine if avengers went to back before thanos destroys the stones n give him a suprise attack but maybe not killing him instead of going back to 2012/2013 for the stones
HBO lowkey wishing hey hired these guys for GOT season 8
Oh hell yeah.
End Game vs. GOT - how to and how not to.
I feel attacked..... I put mayo on Hot Dogs and Fries
Anyone else here to get a break from Game of Thrones writing?
Mjolnor? Nor?? NOR??? Noooo Rrr
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niiiirrrr
Mjolniiiiiirr.
Mjolnir.
huff! glad i got that out it was driving me nuts lol.
“Mjol-NOR”
Why do they seem like twins😍
They didn’t even answer the first question, he was asking about the theory that there could have been other ways to defeat Thanos but in order for the world to be safe he needed to destroy the Infinity Stones, otherwise somebody else gets ahold of them and the Avengers would still lose
As a gotmarvel fan, game of thrones deserve someone like them :'(
Great questions!
I am irritated because he says mjolnor bruh
What about 2014 Thanos not going back to his original timeline? Who snapped the gauntlet in 2018 if 2014 Thanos was dead or didn’t go back?? Isn’t that an alternate timeline?
Fei Halim Yea it would be but this guy didn’t press them about it and he brought it up again with the Spider-Man question and they acted confused. So idk
Ya they were wrong on that. Tbh with 4 creators rather than 2 it’s not surprising they get mixed up sometimes
These guys are the best superhero writers because they seem like the only guys in Hollywood who actually know what heroism is. Every other writer seems to only know how to write "revenge" and call it heroism.
These two deserve SO much credit
The one timeline people keep forgetting about is the timeline in which the Hawkeye family no longer has a baseball glove.
We not gonna talk about how captain america returns the soul stone so is it possible that black widow would come back?? You give a soul for the soul stone but if you return the soul stone what happens??
Nope.
I'm pretty sure Marvel spayed Hulk in the MCU. 😂😳
8:27 lol
12:45
I feel personally attacked...
I like their explanation of the all-women moment tbh
Tony Stark is alive in another earth.
Where half the living remained dusted
Action Albert he’s alive in multiple earths
Tony Stark in the timeline where Thanos time travelled and got killed in 2023 will at least live on.
Internet law: Haters are never in the majority. Ther Internet has a way of making it feel like a few hundreds of thousends of haters speak for the entire fanbase, but they simply pale to the millions that make up said audience. Wherever you are at live events, like conventions, people ALWAYS cheer. But the internet, where cheering isn't fun and people can hide behind anonymity, is fertile ground for haters.
I thought the women Avengers gang thing, on a story level, made me go "huh, why is the movie pausing to set this up?", because it felt shoe-horned in. It probably would've felt more convincing if they had spent a couple of more minutes setting it up, to where they all happened to end up in the same place. I just wrote it off, but at the same time I was thinking, actually how often would we get another opportunity for everyone to be in the same place like that? How many other blockbuster franchises can claim to have that many prominent fan-favorite female heroes?
So ultimately, I would have to say eh what the heck, let 'em have some fun playing with that angle, because the reality is the ratio of male to female heroes is unfortunately still about 5 to 1, or 10 to 1.
Although I think it would have been also cool if they gathered up all the bug-themed heroes, too. lol
Yeah I thought it was pandering when Tony, Cap and Thor just happened to meet each other just in time to fight Thanos together. It felt shoehorned in but maybe if they spent a few more minutes setting it up it would have been better but at that point I was like eh let the guys have fun.
Other than it also being a nod to A-Force, the all-female Avengers from the comics, I think it was also just acknowledgment of how expansive the MCU has become. We only had Black Widow for some time but now there are a lot more female characters who will be carrying the stories and the franchise forward. It didn't bother me personally but I see why people feel the way they do.
they don't have french hot dogs in america? he described it as if it was something unusual. ^^
Sunny Bear
I wonder if all they have ever travelled. Mayo on hotdogs is also common in Hong Kong and Japan.
Sunny Bear we don’t
@@theperfectmix2 well that needs to change! you can get them everywhere in Sweden even
I always put mayo in a hotdog. Actually, just this very morning, I prepared a hotdog sandwich for my wife and I's breakfast - with mayo. To hear somebody say that it's disgusting, I may have to re-evaluate my life's choices. (or, it may be normal and it's just that some other people don't know.)
Glenn Mejorada
I wonder if all they have ever travelled. Mayo on hotdogs is also common in Hong Kong and Japan.
"I believe there aren't any of these alternate time lines..."
So does that mean that Steve goes to 2014 and snaps Thanos back into existance and then skidaddles to 2012 and snaps Loki back into Thors hands?
Why did Tony sacrifice himself if Steve was just going to do that twice in one go and still manage to comeout as a good looking 120-ish year old man
Myolnor LMFAOOOO
idk, I would've cut the last movie into lik a 13 episode Netflix show at an 1hr to 3hrs a piece. Go out with a bang, all the sets are built anyway
I think alternate timeline still exist because the Thanos from the alt-timeline came to this timeline only to be killed.
And that alt-timeline everyone has no more Thanos issue. Even when the stone is being placed back to its place.
If the avengers could go back in time. They could go back 1 second and 2 seconds and all those are timelines. So they are thousands of timelines.
you don't cook burritos, you make them.
I put mayonnaise on hot dogs along with ketchup and relish, and it’s good.
7:07 This is wrong. In 2012 New York, Loki escapes with a Space Stone that Cap was unable to return, because 2023 Tony dropped it. There is, at least, THAT alternate reality.
Guys, I love you, you helped give us one of the best movies of all time, but that girl power scene was such a forced pandering one, you just did to do it, and you basically admit to it within a few minutes of showing it. All the women randomly show up to help Cpt Marvel, leaving their counterparts who are in serious danger to assist this random woman most of them don’t know, who just entered the earth from another planet, blew up Thanos’ ship and seems to have taken zero damage. They group up, and in the very next shot we see Cpt Marvel in, she’s all alone, plowing through the Outriders with no effort whatsoever, and even ends up facing Thanos himself. All. Alone. None of the others are anywhere in sight. So in the context of the scene, they all happened to be in the same area, abandoned the ones they care about, and seconds later, Carol simply dashed through them, leaving them in the dust, and they just said “eh, cool, let’s keep on fighting”. Let’s not pretend it was something else other than pandering and ticking a checklist.
oh shit, they just wiped out all the alternate timeline theories. damn.
Loki got away with the stone. That stone wasn't put back.
I guess you're playing the annoying music throughout so the annoying hum is less noticeable?
I thought the 'rat' in the story made sense because dr strange saw it. It is the same as wining at gambling if you would knew everyone's cards.
I'm still confused as to how the second Steve Rogers that's in the past existed. Did the future Steve Rogers have to kill that one? Like... this movie was confusing af
Zoran Z no two Steves existed at the same time and I believe that’s alright, past Steve would just have to not know of his future self’s existence
One question...
I thought the infinity stones can’t be held by a person unless they have enough power or a celestial to hold it. Explained in Gotg1.
Does that go for just the Power Stone? Or for all stones?
justin bretz just the power stone, the rest of the stones are casually held constantly
Fun fact: In Brasil we put mayonese on hot dogs. But then again, we put pretty much anything else on it.
lol the host called the hammer Mjolnor
I am the only one who put mayonnaise on my hot dog?? Because that's the only thing I put on it since I am a child.
Wait Captain America dated his Niece?
Carlos Nunes oh true! Even if he didn’t know it was his niece she sure would know he’s her uncle
I thought it was Peggy's niece.
makeupunlimited yeah but if he was married to Peggy
@@sophiewong9588 oh I see.
Yeah lol
I just became obsessed with the idea of Steve Rodgers kids in the MCU. What if he has a boy and a girl. The girl gets a portion of his super strength and tries to follow in Steve's footsteps, working for S.H.I.E.L.D then dawning the role as Captain America. The boy doesn't have super strength but is smart and strategic like his mom so he gets in with the Stark's as a new/alternate universe Iron Man. He could get in with Howard and have Tony grow up with this 1970's Iron Man and Female Captain America to look up to but also resent them for being his fathers greatest creations in the same way Captain America was to Howard in the main MCU timeline. Then what if alternate Iron Man gets taken in and brainwashed by Hydra agents in S.H.I.E.L.D the same way they did to Bucky. He start working as a sleeper cell for Hydra and his sister Captain America has to stop him, similar to the events in Winter Soldier/Civil War.
scampoli25 this is so good. I have also been getting lost in all the possibilities, it’s so exciting there is so much they could do there are so many stories to be told and actual good stories.
@@sophiewong9588 Thank you. I completely agree, normally I could care less about tv spin offs of Marvel stuff but they have set up so many great avenues to go down after Endgame that I can't wait to see what they do with the expanded universe.
These dudes just erased their own show (agent carter) from existence lol
lmao
Well they said on their interview with Yahoo entertainment on UA-cam that Steve got back to Peggy in 1948 well after the events of Agent Carter.
Cap uses the Reality stone right before entering the quantum realm to make Bruce, Sam and Bucky see the illusion of him entering the quantum realm, and sitting as an old man. Cap have already restored his shield using the Time stone, and hands it over to him there. Then he enters the quantum realm for real, returns all the stones, travels to the have his dance and creates an alternate timeline without having to travel back to the original one. The movies shows us events in this order because it is how Steve experienced the events chronologically.
Why does no one acknowledge that Thanos can be brought back with the stones?
I don't think there's too many characters that would want to revive Thanos haha
amazing writers but it seems that they don't know hulk very well. He's been downgraded so hard with the past films.
He cause he only reversed the Snap didn’t he and survived?
@@aidanrogers4438 I'm talking in terms of fighting/combat. Like how brutal he was in the first avengers and age of ultron.
He's grown as a character. People keep complaining that Hulk doesn't smash anymore but he'd been doing that now for 4 films already. I like that they've mixed it up
I watched all the Avengers movies again before Endgame and I didn't perceive him as being downgraded at all.
Now im thinking. What if the iron gauntlet was left handed, and bucky snapped the second one, and immediately remove his arm 🤔 🤔 🤔
He still would have died. The effect of the gauntlet on Tony’s body was instant, it just took a minute for him to pass away.
I missed the 'mayonnaise on a hot dog' thing in the movie.
Jennifer Newkirk why
Pandering? Pff. Is it pandering when you see Steve, Thor and Tony fight Thanos? No. It's heroes doing their job.
If Namor is gonna be in the MCU, they better cast Luke Evans
I put mayonnaise and ketchup on my hotdog 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
The women of Marvel scene in the final battle certainly felt pandery, though I wouldn't call itcringey. DAMN it is distracting though. It just pulled me immediately out of the battle and deflated the stakes because it was so obvious and intentional. It didn't exactly ruin it. I still loved the battle. I just don't see why they couldn't have done what they did without being so damned obvious.
You can show Valkyrie, Capt. Marvel, The Wasp, Mantis, Pepper, Etc. being badasses without the "girl power" moment. I had the same issue with the ridiculous song choice at the end of Captain Marvel. The second that song started playing, you know the battle was won, and this was all just silly.
Veeery cagey...About alternate timelines/multiverse stuff. As if they have an idea it might become more relevant in Phase 4? Cards close to the chest on this one
Anyone
Not a soul
LITERALLY NO FUCKING PERSON ON THIS EARTH
The host: Mijolnor...
So cap did kiss his great grand daughter
Niece if you mean Sharon Carter.