Is it Steroids? PEDS? How CrossFit Builds Freak Physiques
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
- You know you've made it in training when people publicly accuse you of PEDs or steroid use - but then again, with the head-turning physiques of the CrossFit world, it's easy to see why accusations fly. So let's break down exactly what is attainable naturally, whether you choose the path of a pro athlete or something more sustainable for the long term.
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01:06 Intro
06:56 5 Reasons CrossFit builds
crazy bodies
when you compete
at the highest level
13:52 Reasons why CrossFit Sport
like this may not be the path for you
18:58 Functional Bodybuilding for sustainable long term physique and performance
21:20 Thank You
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I'm 61 years old and have been training consistently for 40plus years in bodybuilding, powerlifting and Crossfit. I took Dianabol for 3 months in '85 and a 3 month cycle of tes and deca in '86 and began training during a time where the business model for a gym was to use the gym as a loss leader and actually make money selling roids. Here are several things I've learned in my fitness journey. Everything that you're saying is making the point that many of those athletes competing at the highest levels of Crossfit take PEDs. I find your statements that Crossfit athletes train using speed, heavy weight and high volume 25 hours a week naturally without their bodies breaking down over time being attributable to their resiliency, diet, and nutrition a hard sell. Steroids are tailor made for the kind of long hard training that Crossfit demands. And I've been around the block long enough to know that female athletes with huge traps and large blocky abs are rarely natural. Lastly, there are naturally big muscular people, there are naturally ripped people, but in my experience not a lot of big and ripped natural people. That being said, I still enjoy your channel and hit the like button to improve your algorithm results.
Your text was so spot on! Great points. 👏👏👏
Well, if Marcus said: yes guys, it’s the drugs… that would have been a 2 min video.
Spot on!
My reality was that 20 hours of hard training a week was unattainable for many years for me. I was broken and constantly in pain for my early years. I could only tolerate that much training towards the end of my career after I had put in the time to build up to it. That is why so many people burn out and quit in the first couple of years because it is hard to over come. Also why people probably turn to drugs becuase they are not patient enough to let 5-6 years pass and then be able to tolerate the volume.
Crossfit is a lot different to only bodybuilding or powerlifting. It is true that you can only do so much volume strength training in Bodybuilding before you reach "max effective volume/intensity".
But for (real) sports (bodybuilding isn't considered a sport) which have lots of other elements with cardio (VO2-max, lactate threshold etc), agility, explosiveness etc it is very well known that you gradually can build up a greater training tolerance over time.
Especially for the endurance component of crossfit (that is also integrated into it), this is true. In fact, there are protocols for specialised endurance athletes when they are in their junior years and transition into the elite seniors where they very carefully increase the volume and intensity by a certain percentage over time from week to week.
Variation also comes into play, of course. Something well known for triathletes which other endurance Athletes are beginning to take advantage of, to increase the effective volume (to not get injured). Cycling and Swimming, for example, take a lot less toll on the body than running and that is very much part of the less (non existant) high impact eccentric portions in Swimming and cycling compared to running.
The increase in volume over time is also something that is very known for elite gymnasts! (which can train 30 hours a week!). And chalistenics/gymnastic movements is also part of crossfit! Hmm, can you see a pattern evolving now?
If you watch the winter olympics there is now a very special athlete in speedskating named "Nils Van der Pohl" that, despite the dutch sounding name, actually is Swedish.
He has gradually built up an absolutely insane but very varied training volume over the years where he does stunts like 24 hours running sessions, bikes enormous mileages and when it's time to intensify he has an effective lactate training time (That is his time spent on extreme lactate levels, the "on time" of max intensity) is a total of 12 hours a week.
In interviews about why and how he can tolerate this type of training, he answers that he has "Trained himself to train this way". Both mentally and physically over time. He has carefully analysed himself and how he responds to training and what to do to up the volume.
Then he has done everything over the years (from a very young age) up until his olympic gold in the 5000 m which he almost certainly will make a double with the 10000 m (he has the world record in both 5k and 10k) in one of the most grueling and demanding sports of lactic acid torture that there is.
And he is part of the off-season unannounced testing protocol that every olympic athlete must take part in.
The Crossfit world is stuck in the same mentality as Bodybuilding in the 80's / 90's.. denial, denial and more denial whilst everyone with any experience in the fitness world knows exactly whats going on.
Just look at some of the women in Crossfit as an example, your trying to sell us on the idea that high volume aerobic training is responsible for the masculinization of their facial structure. There are so many dead give aways for anyone with any sort of experience in these areas.
Its time for the cross fit world to come out of the closet, its 2022 and people know whats going on in the world.
All that being said, your videos are great and keep doing what your doing.
i didn't' hear anyone denying things. i know there are plenty of people using PEDs. My point here is that many of us were, and still are not, using them. And that the sport itself when you play clean is HARD but can develop bodies like this
Call em out 👀
@@marcusfilly
No, crossfit does not give women baritone voices, giga chad jaw lines and traps the size of montana.
That would be steroids, my cheeky little avoideroni :)
@@uhuhno6441 Low body fat percentage combined with camera angles and lighting can make physiques look a lot bigger than they are if you were to see the same person in person. You'd be shocked by how small female elite CrossFitters are in person. Their musculature isn't as larger than life as it appears on videos. Many of these physiques are natural and you'd understand why if you met some of them in person. Many CrossFit women just look like muscular teen boys, barely reaching 140 lbs. Stand next to one. If you're a full grown man, you wouldn't feel intimidated because they're not big. 140 lbs is not big.
@@jawant6039
Yeah, I know. That doesn't mean a 5'3'' 140lbs female athlete with a giga chad jaw line and traps the size of montana is not on steroids. That just means they're short and have unattainably low body fat for a woman who is not on steroids. Also, steroid users dont have to be huge. But professional "crossfitters" are on steroids. Sorry, you may cry now.
99% of bodybuilders all claim they never used steroids too, the reality is once a large percentage of competitors in a particular arena start using PEDs to elevate results most of the rest have no choice but to either follow suit or retire, I know not every CrossFit competitor uses steroids but the ones at the top of the mountain are most certainly not working off natural athleticism entirely
There have been too many individuals within CrossFit who have been caught out by drug tests to say that the sport is clean of PED usage. Trying to differentiate who is and isn’t using is hard as the human body can build impressive physiques at the upper end of genetics and considering the is maybe 40-50 “top” level cross fitters then there is likely chance that these individuals are less likely to be enhanced. As for yourself I’m not overly bothered, you’re not competing anymore and you offer fantastic knowledge to help people live healthy, fit lifestyles.
Please back up your statement. Ricky with SARMS and Emily Abbott popped a few years ago. Who else?
@@mattpeters6224 Ben Bergeron Methylhexanamine. Loss of results
Derek Mohammad Methylhexanamine. Loss of results
2014
Taylar Stallings B-methylphenethylamine. One-year suspension.
Abigail Guerrero Methandienone (Dianabol). Two-year suspension.
2015
Steve Pinkerton Anastrozole, Letrozole & 19-norandrosterone. Two-year suspension.
Elia Navarro Garcia Oxandrolone. Two-year suspension.
Richard Bohlken Ostarine. One-year suspension.
Ryan Fischer Whereabouts failure, failure to cooperate with collection agents, did not report for out of season test. One-year suspension.
2016
Charis Chan Trenbolone. 4-year suspension.
Natalie Newhart Oxandrolone. 2-year suspension.
Scott Jones Anastrozole. 2-year suspension.
Penny Kemp Clomiphene. 1-year suspension.
Steve Marino Unspecified anabolic agent. 2-year suspension
2017
Ryan Elrod Clomiphene. 2-year suspension.
Nick Thomas Ostarine. 2-year suspension.
OJ Washington Methylhexaneamine. 2-year suspension.
Andrea Barbotti Clomiphene. 4-year suspension.
Stella Christoforou Clenbuterol. 4-year suspension.
L’duvit Czokoly Clomiphene. 4-year suspension.
Pawel Lesnikowski Clenbuterol, Modafinil and elevated testosterone levels. 4-year suspension.
Gianluca Occhino Tamoxifen. 4-year suspension.
Ricky Garard Testolone and Endurabol. 4-year suspension.
Tony Turski Anastrozole. Suspension not disclosed.
Josee Sarda Ostarine and Testolone. Suspension not disclosed.
That’s just up to 2017. Team Invictus got disqualified for SARMS. It doesn’t take much searching to find these things. Isn’t it ironic that only non prolific athletes are failing tests. They don’t have the money to afford experts who will make sure they don’t fail tests. Every sport at its highest level has PED abusers. To act like CrossFit is somehow exempt of this is delusional.
@@jorob813 the original comment said 40-50 “top level” competitors. The majority of the names on your list were not top level. Some were good, hoping PEDs could get them to that top level but most of those were barely regional level athletes even with the juice. Ricky was the only real top level athlete to test positive.
@@tallcip65 Yes imagine just how good the top crossfitters are, that they can beat individuals that are on gear! Just further proof that if you can work hard you can do anything!
@@jorob813 Mostly wanna 🐝. You said top tier brother.
*more plates more dates has entered the chat* it’s definitely peds
You're not Derek. And no it's not. Not always anyway.
He deleted all content including Liver King this week.
Are you actually accusing him of using steroids? Or are you saying he’s in the ped level, because this video is clear evidence he is being honest…
Keep it up Marcus! You’re a big inspiration in my daily Instagram feed and you can tell you have a strong work ethic to be at the top of your fitness level! 🤙🏽
Love that you do functional body building approach with your clients! So amazing!
First of all, thank you for your honesty, and life experience, about sports and Crossfit. But it's really hard to believe, especially on the women's side, that Crossfit Athletes are not using PED's (SARMS and/or Steroids). Of course genetics, hard work, elite training and diet, will make a great difference. But taking those substances, boost your total performance dramatically. Not only physically, but mentally too. Confidence in yourself is almost everything in Elite Sports. You have to believe 200%, that you got the power to make it to the top. Period. And we all know that Crossfit has a pretty dubious test program. They even warn the athletes of the day, when they're going for a test. Nowadays, most people are understanding that passing a drug test, does not mean your're not using it. I really do believe in your words, but you can only speak for yourself. In local competitions, here in Brazil, and in near countries, almost all the guys and girls are FULL ON jacked substances. It's very sad and heartbreaking for those who try to complete honestly. The mentality has changed a lot, since the early years of Crossfit Competition.
I appreciate your comment and how thoughtful it is. I can image how hard it must be mentally to feel like you cannot overcome the obstacle of cheating. Even when I competed I had a similar feeling all the time. How can I overcome how good my competitors are and that feeling eats away at you. It is part of why training is so hard.
I bet PEDs are like speeding. Many do it, especially when no one is looking, but just as many won't ever touch it, on principle, because it is against the rules, plain and simple. Also, perhaps because cheating takes out all the joy and there is WAY less money involved in CF than in UFC etc.
I agree. They either take turkestetone, or sarms or something they can't detect, men n women.
@@marcusfilly Your comment is tricky to understand. Do you believe there are natty girls competing in Crossfit? If you do, you're clueless
Hello Mu Jones, I've been competing here in Mexico for 9 years now basically since I started crossfiting and Ive also seen people explode from one year to the other (performance and muscle mass wise) and I got left out back eating dust when we were basically head to head one year prior. But after 7 years since then I consider that I have caught up to them and in way better shape health wise. Its tempting to do the same as them but patience and consistency is key. Its not about how fast you can get there but how long you can last doing it. 💪 By the way Im still no where where I want to be so its still a long road ahead.
Been watching your videos and am super excited to try your program. I’ve been doing old school training my whole life and am realizing the consequences of lack of mobility and flexibility and function. Regarding PEDs I believe that you haven’t used them. However I think you also have great genetics. I just don’t think the average person could recover from the crazy workouts and hours per day you put in at the gym. Although I also credit you for the dedication and hard work on diet, rest, etc. That piece is difficult and most don’t stick to it. So big respect there. Did not intend to imply that you just lucked into your results due to good genetics.
I liked the honesty in the video. I am 57 years old and competed in bodybuilding in the late 1980's. So many people would come into the gym and said that they didn't want to get too big, I always said " don't worry you won't get big". It takes too much dedication for most people. The amount of food required would be 3 times their current diet, people don't realize how hard it is to eat that much. They also are not going to go to the point of almost passing out or the pain of going to complete exhaustion. For years on end!
thanks for the comment
I highly respect your level of athleticism and your dedication to hard work and effort. With that, you can achieve the same level of athleticism as most other physically demanding sports like NFL, as you pointed out. However, it is good to take note that there will always be genetic outliers in any sports, and I believe that you are one of them in the Crossfit world.
I respectfully disagree that Crossfit can achieve an amazing physique for those who are chasing aesthetics, especially for majority of the population who only has 30-45 mins to train for say 3 days a week. I've seen this in majority of the recreational crossfit lifters throughout my country. This is because they do not offer the best hypertrophy stimulus and loading on muscle groups as compared to other exercises. On the second point which you mentioned eccentric demand, Crossfit actually doesn't have that much because you'll notice that there is as little focus (e.g. All the olympic lifts really don't focus on eccentric but rather concentric, similar with kipping pull ups with little time under tension). From my experience and researching on all of why hypertrophy can occur, my hypothesis is due to the volume of an elite athlete, which makes up for the lack of eccentric loading, and cannot be achieved unless you are 1) a genetic outlier, or 2) have tons of time to train and eat like an athlete.
Like they always say, train for your goals. If your goal is to be a CrossFit athlete, train like a crossfit athlete, and if your goal is to be as aesthetic as possible, train like a bodybuilder. Nutrition is always a given - if you can't pair your training with nutrition whatever you do will always see subpar results.
That said, great content, and I love how transparent you are. Keep it up!
Did you look at People that were regularly going to those crossfits gyms? Or only make scientific and theoretical observations?
@@tomasnobrega8087 I looked at people that regularly go to the Crossfit gyms, 4-5 days a week. In fact, I take reference from my Crossfit friends from Crossfit boxes.
Man hes right about this. Ive been doing CF for about 18 months and am in the best shape of my life at 34. Training is a huge part of it but my diet is very important to me and i built myself a sauna. But most of all ive learned to embrace the suck. Embrace the pain and learned that im the type of person who thrives off the struggle and can dig down deep for more when the workout starts to crush your soul. These people arent making any excuses as to why they cant get to the gym today. Its addictive and i love it. If you asked me 10 years ago if id ever enjoy running 5 miles with a weight vest i would have laughed at you
My issue is that there are women in modern times that are looking like you with your physique, competing, and claiming they are natural but failing drug tests. In 2018 and 2019 women were getting popped left and right for GW1516. Oh boy did they love GW1516. Seventeen of them failed for GW1516 in the span of three days from a single event with less than 150 female participants and those are only the ones that got caught. We aren't even done with 2022 and they got popped again, 15-20 of them in 8 months but now they aren't all on GW1516. Crossfit's PED issue is still alive and well.
You are so wise. People see your intensity and have never come close to that level of suffering. It is hard for others to see you perform and know that they will not reach that for themselves. You inspire me to work harder and smarter.
I appreciate the comment.
I have been following your journey and coaching methods for years. It is amazing to see how you have evolved as an athlete, individual, and coach. This content is golden and is exactly what the general public needs. Thank you.
Awesome! Thank you!
Hi Mark Filly and friends. I have heard just too many nutritional and medical doctors, who have said that it is IMPOSSIBLE for Cross Fitters, to be totally clean of PEDs and steroids, considering the insane amounts of the work-outs that they do.
And, as a 69 year old straight male, who has been training in the sports of bodybuilding and in many martial arts for the last 52 years, without stopping for a long time, I cannot believe that the Cross Fitters are mostly clean.
Yes, I can believe Marcus not using PEDs. But his not having used steroids, especially when he was competing in the Games? Just maybe, for Mark seems so honest and thorough, in his stories of how he was able to get his awesome physique and his fitness level.
I really admire and love you Mr. Filly, for what you are doing now for functional fitness. And know that I have been a subscriber of your channel, for quite some time, now.
However, it is hard for you to be indirectly "defending" the Cross fitters who might have been using them, for you really have no way of knowing that accurately.
Also, one only needs to honestly look at 97% of the females, for example, who have insane amounts of muscle mass, which cannot possibly be naturally obtained from mere genetic advantages, great nutrition, intense work outs, and almost perfect recovery routines. Just not natural for humans to be that muscular and fit, especially for the female competitors, including the really elite ones.
Having stated my HUMBLE opinion, I wish to thank you Mark for the really great informative videos that you post. More power to you.
Thank you for mentioning that you are straight
@@USS_Liberty_never_forget Right. It seems that, in these days of gender sensitivity, we have to announce that, friend.
Thank you for responding, as well.
Excellent wrap up and being transparent
This my first video of yours
The way you deconstructed is crystal clear sir
Hoping to share your unparalleled journey
Thanks, really appreciate it!
If you successfully competed in 6/7 years of CrossFit against others, who were enhanced, and still beat them, then you didn’t need to make this vid, we should be making one honoring you! Congratulations on all your achievements (esp the family ones) they make a man complete.
appreciate it
You say More volume, More Reps, More Sets, Higher Frequency, Longer duration is what high level Crossfitters do to get their strength and physiques. They obviously do A Lot of exercise. But all those things are only part of the equation.
Recovery is a big part of the equation also.
By the ‘More Is Better’ way of thinking, the more hours of exercise A person does, the better results they should get. Speaking of the Natural athletes of course.
I fell for that ‘More is better’ approach in the early and latter 80’s when I read, and applied Arnold Schwarzenegger‘s encyclopedia of bodybuilding (and many other gurus of the day). I was working out hours every day, 6 to 7 days a week and even on holidays because I was afraid of losing gains, and or missing out on gains, and here’s what I noticed.
Always fatigued and tired, sick with colds and flu multiple times per year, sustained many injuries along the way, and muscle soreness was just a way of life every day.
One thing I wish I knew back then, was that Arnold Schwarzenegger and all these other high level Bodybuilders and athletes were taking PED’s.
It wasn’t till later that things started to come out and the truth was revealed about much of this artificial enhancement stuff.
Once I realized it, and realized I cannot sustain this way of working out / exercise for life.
I changed everything and cut way, way, back on volume, exercises, frequency etc. The only thing that remained high was the intensity level of the exercise.
I grew stronger and bigger by doing less, up to a point of course.
Every person has a ceiling somewhere along the way. Finding that sweet spot of doing just enough to get results and not too much to annihilate your body, skeleton, joints, tendons, ligaments, and lifestyle is key.
More Is Not better.
An example of recuperation - how about trying to build calluses on your hands. Every time a person gets a little friction on their hands they start to build a callus, then, if before the callus is fully formed and gradually built up, they do something to tear the calluses off, then do the same thing, which tore the calluses off, on a daily basis, with high frequency, and high volume, they will never have a callus.
I can say from firsthand experience that this approach does not work.
All you’ll have is hands without calluses and instead constant open wounds and abrasions.
Why?
Because there was never enough time to recuperate from the tearing down process and allow rebuilding to commence.
These artificial enhancement drugs allow for faster recovery, amongst other things, which allows for the ability to do more volume, more frequency at a longer duration and higher intensity.
PED’s need to be talked about much more (with transparency and integrity) when it comes to these subjects because they are the missing link between these so-called elites and the average non-elite, but highly capable athletic individual.
I don’t see that full transparency happening much anytime soon.
Instead, I have seen, and will continue to see, people like my younger self who think that these elite athletes are natural and will try to follow what they do to their demise.
Marcus is real, he speaks the truth and is genetically gifted like all elite athletes. He also breaks things down for everyone and avoids the bs. One of the only channels I actually feel comfortable just doing whatever he says to do. Thank you!
Great video Marcus. I have been following the Functional Bodybuilding Pump program for a while now and have never felt / looked better.
I'm so glad to hear that
Great idea as always. You can always work harder and do more! 👏👏
Marcus thanks for the great content. I have a question about your sweatbands. Do you only wear one sweatband because it effects your whoop?
Great vid! First time I have come across your channel. Subscribed!
In order to withstand and endure these crazy events in CF you most likely need to be on PEDs. Crossfit games is basically a science experiment
Marcus has a very good style of talking which doesn't let you get bored. He talks slow and lets you absorb what he is saying. And you know he is talking from genuine and solid experience. Plus his narration is backed by video examples, which makes it even better.
thanks for the support man!
What weight were you competing at for CrossFit? Still killing it. One of the most humble and knowledgeable guys in the industry
I love your channel and your content! Please more nutrition stuff. Thank you very much for sharing so much great content and helpful content
Levels/libre CGM noticed. I use one too. Well done Marcus!
Finally someone says how long and what it takes to gain muscle
All you see here in YT is bigger arms or abs in one month and so on
I believe you marcus it takes time, honesty, dedication and discipline, with these values good coaching on nutrition and recovery methods no one needs PEDs
thanks for sharing and congratulations on your achievements
Keep it going
Generally agree with all points. I think what you see at the highest level of CF is the people with top genetic potential coupled with incredible training and diet. However, if you think there isn't PED use, then you're naive. The farther you get along the bell curve of performance the more difficult it is to make progress. This is where PED's are actually valuable. If you're an average athlete, then PED's will make you a better, but likely, still average athlete. If you're an elite athlete, and PED hyper-responder, then it may make the difference in moving from simply competing to pushing for the podium.
I generally agree with Marcus that it does take most people several years to build the type of physique common to elite CF athletes, but how do we explain the fact that there are lots of young athletes that already have crazy physiques (teenager Mal O'Brien, and CF champ Justin Medeiros)? I'm not suggesting they are on PED's at all, just asking. Seems like there are a ton of great 17-25yr old athletes already with freak physiques.
You sound like you did not watch or paid attention to the whole video, he never said that there is not any PEDs usage, he said the opposite actually, he said there are people who use or have used PEDs in this sport, but he is confident that there are a lot o pro people that aren't or haven't. It is very easy for people who aren't training the in the same level as them say they are on PEDs , but these people don't understand what is like to have the top trainings, nutrition, rest etc. Some athletes show clear sign of PEDs like masculin traces and so on (like Pearce, Sigmundsdottir etc) but they are probably from the time when these athletes were professional bodybuilders (these two were in the past), since pro crossfiters must do drug test before and during competition.
Loved this video boss, I wanted to know what the tape is on the back of your arm though
Thank you once a again for your great content! Question: Where is your watch from? That strap is one of my favourite
One thing I will give credit for is were literally referring to the top 0.001% at the top of the sport. It’s actually surprising not all of them are shredded to get there (Frasier, Ben Smith, Velner, etc). It is not surprising that the top
What a great insight into your training journey, Great video.
I am around PED circles. They really underestimate the concept of genetics and how physiques respond to steroids and where performance enhancement fits in to the equation. Diet+ training equal results. Even in PED circles some people believe others lie about their dose and say impossible to peoples before photos before taking a cycle. I went to Bergen catholic. Everyone used steroids. Very few got anywhere with it.
A lot of the CrossFit athletes were just that high level athletes. Not just people who paid $35 a month to LA or Golds. A lot were D1 athletes and Tia is an Olympic athlete; a gold medalists if I am not mistaken. Regardless of what’s is and is not going on behind the scenes. Doing things correctly and having the genetic blueprint is more important than steroids.
There’s a ceiling to the doses and results. The top steroid users (bodybuilders and powerlifters) will tell you that. And cross fitters are very limited to what they can use. There’s just Lower to medium Test, low doses of Nandrolone, EQ, EPO, halotestin, Anavar, and Winstrol. They can’t allow themselves to get a pump easily. So you could do the same but still wouldn’t look like them.
Im not a high performance athlete and I only started crossfit 2 months ago; but even though I’ve lost like 5 lbs, when i look at side to side pics i look way more muscular now and people also tell me that my back and shoulders look muscular - even though I’m on a calorie deficit, I’m a woman on birth control and I don’t lift heavy weights yet. I’ve also lost a whole size; went from an L to a M with only 5 lbs lost.
Amazing video. Very good information and very motivating for someone who already follows best practices for optimal performance.
My pleasure!
Loved it
min 17:50 is what most people do not want to hear and would rather blame the success of some people on cheating
Maybe these same people should keep themselves accountable for their own actions.
Even though training and a healthy lifestyle are some of my priorities I wouldn't want to have the same body as the Crossfitters because I know how much dedication it demands and I have also other priorities in life.
Thanks, Marcus to put things in perspective.
Also, I am sure there are uses and abuses in high-level performances, in ANY sports, though some other people wouldn't get even close to what these athletes are doing even with enhancing drugs as it still asks for so much work and dedication.
I did watch the whole video, and though I'm not a crossfit guy I did participate clean in high level athletics (top in my sport/weight class at a state level) in my younger days. I also lifted (mainly PL style workouts), ran, biked and swam during that period for performance and to maintain weight. The point about many folks not understanding what goes into competing at a high level and the buildup to it is a strong one. No one pops out of the womb looking like this and even those that put in the work at a SOME level get selected out by genetics. I think it's obvious that a sport which is heavily weightlifting/strength biased along with max intervals will lend itself towards a certain body type. Big enough to put up big numbers in lifts but lean and fit enough to not gas in the strength/endurance events. And the workouts, diet and recovery required to perform at those events will also play into that look. I also think people tie PEDS to looks in too simplistic a fashion. Looks often don't equate to use and you might be surprised if you train with people who is and isn't. I'm not in any position to say people in CF do or don't use and which is which but it's great to get perspective from a former high level competitor.
thanks for the insight.
Hell of a physique. A lot of people on social media are not telling the truth, but I do believe you. As a universal precaution I think every CrossFit athlete at the games should be tested just to be safe.
All I know is that your dedication and knowledge in fitness shows in your programs …like you said it takes time and proper nutrition. Thank you for all your hard work … I have really enjoyed transitioning from CrossFit to FBB pump.
Well done! Very true about body types, ability, commitment and overall genetics as with any sport or physical occupations.
A reporter one-time asked Arnold Schwarzenegger why do all these guys start competing in bodybuilding. he said because they want to look like me, but they never will.
thank you
“Everyone is on steroids.” - Nate Diaz
The simple fact is this mate that during most CrossFit competitions either high level or otherwise and leasing up to them, the training volume is insane and when you get to the games you have no time to recover or rest from the workouts/events and nobody can do that without injuries or help even with great genetics.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience. You have a very valuable insight into watch is a very new sport. Love what you do 🇮🇪
Hi Marcus, What Squat Wedge do you use pls, which brand? Thank you.
Wife on treadmill, looking at Marcus rolling on ground, just keeps going. Priceless
Would you share what your thoughts are with just your regular amino powder drinks? Or creatine? Your majority of powders in the gym world
Top level Crossfit = steroids and peptides... Marcus you make good videos, don't try and mislead the sports steroid and peptide usage... pretty lame!
Yeah, I dont get it myself
Jesus Christ another world class fake natty why can’t he be humble and lead people the right way
Tells them what’s the pros and cons of using steroids should they or shall they not what’s their goals Jesus man disappointing
It’s funny…I really like this guy but seriously. You can workout all you want but you won’t get that size and physique because of what you are doing. Dude looked 100% juicy
He’s just offered a detailed explanation as to why, then said the average person is not going to train to that level. So don’t compare what you can do and say they are jacked, just because you all think it’s not achievable, and you can’t achieve it. No appreciation for all the hours, days and years they put in, and your simple retort and negativity is more lame. No mention that the athletes all get drug tested tested and is mandatory for the top 5. You will make what you want out of comments if your belief is fixed and negative. Good luck getting on in this world with such an attitude.
@@savvysurveyor5318 hey just wanted to clear some things up, athletes do not get tested year around, and also most people commenting are people who do workout a lot, thus having a good understanding of what is realistic, I don’t know if he was on drugs, but they bring up a good point, most people lie about it and make it harder for people to understand what is real and actually achievable
I love this video! Would you do one on ways to be the healthiest version of yourself you can be?
For me personally, I train Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu 2-4 times a week, Crossfit 5 times a week, but I struggle with my diet. (due to 21 years of bad habits and no knowledge) How can I start living my healthiest life now in order to be healthy in my 90s?
Do I need a sauna or cold tub or anything for my goal?
I like this topic and I will outline this some day for my viewer
Hey this is Mr. Jones no relations to the Mrs. Jones comment s below I would just say until you really go out and do it don't say it's impossible or unlikely. This man is been a lifetime training his body and mind...look at TBE results. Now he has done the same with a program that can benefit others and shwn it can be done And you can be done without the meds even if you're a woman. Thank you For this channel and I have learned so much. Thanks again
Thanks for posting this video Marcus. I did used to wonder about you (and others!) so it's good that you've addressed this question. You summarize the answers very well. To be an elite athlete takes years of consistent commitment and discipline, in combination with an exceptional (natural) biological advantage and baseline level of skill. What's more, it seems many of the doubters do not appreciate your incredibly strict and well-informed approach to diet and nutrition. Many people fall short in this area when it comes to their own training.
thank you for the comment.
And steroids smarty pants
Training to that level of intensity can be dangerous BUT if done perfectly right the benefits are AMAZING.
😂🙏👏🔥Great Vid! 👏 Keep motivating and inspiring! 🙏🔥
Hi Marcus!!
I believe that back then(in your competitive CF competing years)...your diet was probably a lot oriented towards big amounts of protein(170 plus gr/day) and loads of carbs plus the fact that you were a bit younger !!! Also, I believe the programming for competing at the highest level must have favorited muscle growth... Now, I'm pretty sure that you eat a lot more of a well-balanced diet composed of lots and lots of veges, leaner meats, and better carbs...!!! but that's just what I think!!! Cheers Marcus and plz continue doing what you're already very good at!!! Cheers!
Amazing video Marcus!!!
What are those boards on top of the Concept 2 Air Bikes?? They look like a desk?? What is the purpose? (min 21:37)
They are so we can work and get a sweat on at the same time! Or to just hold my drinks lol www.ergdesk.com/
I'm sure some are totally clean, but also some of the top have tested positive. It's not really in CrossFit best interest to catch folks either. Just like football and bodybuilding.
That thing about building endurance intensity, volume is true. After many years of training I was doing crazy workouts with heavy weights and intensity. Can't touch those old workouts but I'm trying to build back some.
Guess most of top level crossfitters using „cardarine“ at least through the CrossFit games. Your overall workload is incredible and cardarine helps so much here that it’s too appealing to simply avoid it
I HAVE A QUESTION MARCUS, how did you build your recovery to recover from high intensity movements so fast? Thanks!
This guy has such knowledge only thing I respectfully do not like about him is he mainly focuses on dads . Why not youngsters ?
@@Hitman-44 I think his focus is on longevity in training…that applies to everyone.
@@AislingDonohoe If you read his insta posts you can easily tell his target audience is family men and turning them more fit and active. This is why he writes so much upon minimalism , short duration workouts , etc.
However also creating similar programs for young guys would not hurt him in any way. Infact it would even be better for the business.
I didn't build it fast. It took my 5-6 years to build it
@@Hitman-44 Speaking as a 55 year old fitness enthusiast I will tell you why, because men like myself see many of our age-peers with huge guts hanging over their belts, they can barely walk up a flight of stairs without gasping for air, they eat like shit and they look like shit, and they are miserable. I take notice of the obituaries and the relatively high number of men within a year of my age or even significantly younger dyeing of heart attacks and Covid related co-morbidities. So basically men like myself who decide not to go down the path of bad health, are probably paying more attention to these issues. Just a guess.
Quality content as always Marc , keep up the great work.
appreciate it
I’ve been training for 15 years, done everything and currently training for total physique balance and endurance fitness.
Serious question for you:
What was it like competing against people that were clearly on sauce? How did that change the way you attacked a training session?
Did you ever say, “Fk it, I’m going to increase my volume, eat more protein and sleep an extra hour and hope that works. Hips and knees, please forgive me.”
Dude Shutup....F*** Stay Safe, Do you...who gives a fuck, Drink some raspberry salt
@@JTFSIX Go back to pre school and learn how to form a proper sentence.
David goggins this bitch... stay hard! lol
@@JTFSIX
You’re like the bisexual older guy at the gym with two broken rotator cuffs and a beer belly, telling everyone about your “glory days” in the 90’s when you hit 225 with two spotters.
Cool story boomer
@@michaelgresham1980 Lol that was mean
In regards to the ideal body will surface over time for a specific sport....Not all MMA Champions have a similar body type. Maybe because there are still many different ways to be a great MMA fighter. Izzy is built like Anderson while Usman looks more like GSP. It depends on the style they use. Maybe that's the exception because it's really only been going since 1990 as a sport and Fighting is more in the spirit and mind than just a sport.
I have rowed for 42 years and coached rowing for 5. Through the years I have known many athletes who have developed large quads and thick backs with no supplemental work just rowing alone. From observation I would say most rowers even world class rowers are far less loaded rowing using much smaller drag factors on the C2 machine than most cross fitters or gym goers. Yet a trained rower's power numbers will match or exceed the strongest weight lifters. Rowers are unloaded on the eccentric and yet are fairly strong. So if a rower who is less loaded and does little eccentric work can develop big muscles I would bet some cross fit athletes could build considerable whole body size naturally.
great insight. thanks for sharing
Truly said Marcus! Takes years and years of hard work!!
you know it
I would agree with Marcus that its technically possible for the genetically gifted to look like that and perform so well in so many different modalities. There are freaks in every sport. Having said that there seems to be more and more genetically gifted athletes coming out if the woodwork year after year which is unusual and the fact that an awfully high concentration of these people appear at the top of crossfit is statistically highly unlikely. I love crossfit both doing and spectating, im a big fan but i as the sport gets bigger and the athletes get better so quickly i find the gifted and dedicated argument less and less convincing. I disagree with nothing Marcus said, he's talking about his own career and good luck to him. One element of the video he mentioned was the volume of training. Ive seen that volume first hand day after day, anyone can look at a sample day of Mayhem programming. That kind of volume is brutal and murder on the body, 25 hours a week month after month year after year. How can these athletes recover from pounding their legs lungs and shoulders into the ground so much? Im not buying the ice bath, good food and sleep response. Yes, for some it will work. For most that volume is unsustainable and yet they cope and don't break down. People forget that steroids don't grow muscle as such they accelerate recovery to facilitate hard and intense training the next day. Without steroids how are these athletes destroying their muscles and frying their cns to such a frequent degree and recovering to go hard for another 5 hours the next day? I want to believe in Batman but there's only 1 batman. With so many superhuman athletes about, something is shady in Gotham. Discuss 🤔
Well as Marcus said many of these top athletes already have ten plus years experience of fitness before the CrossFit grind. So you could argue that they have adaptations that have made their connective tissues more resilient to degradation. Also he mentioned that training wasn’t just focused on hitting PRs or heavy lifts day in and day out and that they would focus heavily on technique. I would wager these athletes implement wave load training as to avoid over training such that they taper up and down volume and intensity in accordance to regional competitions. Ultra marathon runners only do one long 30 plus run per week and focus on other training modalities on the other days. They also taper down training a month before competition. So I would wager CrossFit athletes do one grueling day a week. Also training splits to balance out the work load so that you are giving some parts of the body to recover while training another portion is another explanation. That said I’m sure PED use is still common especially since CrossFit isn’t that regulated.
the kind of volume is murder. It felt like that too from 2010-2014. I really got my ass kicked and wasn't very successful. But in year 2015, after 6 years of adapting to the sport, my ability to handle the volume finally started to catch up to the demands of the sport. I was able to train more and still stay smart and injury free. IT was in 2015 that my growth took it's last jump and I was able to have a breakout year in 2016 when I finished 12th. I just takes time.
A lot of athletes aren't patient enough to see those years of development happen.
@@cameroncollier8062 Yep absolutely agree that if they don't take a careful approach to programming they will be in for a rough ride. If they weren't using peds and sucking up that amount of volume and thriving off it they are unbelievable, imagine having a body like that! Id be walking round with a card saying 'Fergus Lacey : absolute machine' if that was me 😂
@@marcusfilly i don't doubt it for a second and have nothing but admiration for the level you reached, sincerely, hats off! Its difficult for me to imagine how people can avoid the repetitive stress injuries that crossfit inevitably causes, tendinitis in the joints of elbow etc. But i know you were young and already a machine by the time you found crossfit so the athletic foundation you had aready built aligned to the work ethic and discipline were optimal conditions for a successful career like yours.
Its interesting what you wrote, bit of a catch 22 isn't it? If you don't suffer the volume you can't adapt, but if you don't adapt you'll be broken. Likewise if you don't do the volume you won't be at the races at all! The athletes at the top of the competitive structure are one thing, its the ones at the bottom that really suffer i think. Good enough to win local competitions and stand out from the norm. They do well in the open compared to most without being truly competitive even while training as much as those who dominate the open. They're constantly chasing and thinking if they tweak this or that, or sacrifice more or just do more it will make the difference but for the majority it won't, they just don't have it. Realistically if anyone would be tempted to use peds it would be people in that bracket desperate to step up the ladder and give all their years of labour some meaning!
@@gugoose This was a great post. One of coaches at the box I work out at was top 20 in the open one year, trains smart and hard, is a stud athlete but got crushed in the sectional (or what ever it was called that year since they keep changing it up all the time) more than likely because he was completely clean.
It’s just like all sorts of other things whether it be sports or anything else. Do people really expect it’s only the slightly lesser known people just short of the top that are doing it and get popped? Do you really expect women to gain masculine feature (obvious thing being changes to structure like facial structure)? Do you really think people don’t know it’s nearly impossible to be THAT lean all the time (because they always have their instagrams and stuff even though obviously editing goes into that), yet have enough surplus to make large strides in strength gains? Do people think that people don’t know that PEDs are not just strength and muscle based? Do people think (in other sports) that top athletes (looking at Lasha for example, who I love watching lift still) get popped and they just stopped taking them as his totals have still skyrocketed? Do people still think that people just eat chicken, rice and broccoli bruh? Do you think that after Project MK Ultra declassification showed they were able to control dogs with chips in their brains way back in the 70s or so they just stopped furthering that technology?
I think people get the point. It’s like the world just thinks everyone (and many people are so I understand that) are just gullible suckers that if you say “SQUIRREL” they’re going to look that way and follow it. Doesn’t matter how many decades (probably a century at this point) of endless documentation, research and tests on performance, diet, human limits (connective tissues and all the rest), PEDs and what ever else somehow doesn’t apply to CrossFitters because they are “that special” and their training methodology is “that superior.”
Honestly Marcus, your body Look amazing now more back then. And it is not a big deal if ur were on drug or not. It is matter to me what u put into this amazing vlogs. Love you man❤️. Big support and love👍🏼👍🏼
On thing which got my eye was study done by elite level crosscountry skiers. Bio-opsies were done to their quads and triceps. What was found was that their Triceps had HUGE type IIA fibers. What made them huge was capillar density. Type IIA fibers were larger than Type I fibers, and to get similar aerobic capacity they had to grow similar capillar density. which resulted them to be some 1,5 times larger than Type I fibers.
In quads this was not observed and there was very little difference between Type I and Type IIA fibers. But this was supposely because doublepolling technique requires alot from triceps, both in strength and in endurance. Quads have just to be aerobic and so type IIA fibers defeveloped more into direction of Type I fibers (Glute would have been more interesting muscle to study as the power house of lower body).
Basically same what Crossfitters need, thou crossfitters need that in their whole body.
this is something which drives me nuts with strength growd. For decades thay have been telling themselves that you can't have cardio and strength in same pudding, and it's so difficult to get them out of that space.
I'm not crossfitter, and don't believe for a second for top crossfitters to be drug-free (there might be some), but i hate it when people with zero experience come in and judge what is possible and what is not. Strength atheltes in general are lazy and lack work ethic, their idea of training is so narrow that they can't fit it into their heads how someone could train 20 hours without breaking into pieces.
Literally had to pause the video and watch you get off the assault bike again around 14:40. It was very impressive haha. Okay, back to the video…
So well presented!
I love your videos man thank you for doin what you do 👌🏽🔥🤘🏽
Give it up brother. What was ur cycle?
I am pretty unaware of what is going on in the world of PEDs because I was just an average Joe who trained people to work out, rest when their bodies needed recovery and adopt good sleep and nutrition habits. I am a big believer that it is not abnormal that over time the human body will see huge transformations when people consistently live that lifestyle and prioritize their goals. What is abnormal is the simple dedication. I saw housewives and guys with dad bods train and eat clean and get really fit bodies with abs inside of 6 months. I never reached the level of dedication @marcusfilly invested in the sport so I cannot say that because his results were superior to mine, he must have been on something or he's a cheater. That is a cop-out. Also, the documentation of your journey is proof that you have worked really hard and even though you are lighter now, you are leaner. So I see no reason to call you out. You are doing a great job and thanks for all that you do. Keep it up!
love love this video thanks for sharing as always bro
Thank you for sharing! Maybe overdid it on the visual effects this time :D. Can we get a Get To Know Me video about Megan please?! Adore her already.
Great suggestion!
Great point and sensible..Discipline and consistency 💪🏻
Always!
"I was recovering like a pro" THATS WHAT PED DO!!!
really great video, glad to see you just talking about the realism of elite performance. also avoiding burnout as a part of achieving our goals and the burn out inherent in breaking through to new levels of athleticism.
First of all. I am big fan of yours, really enjoy your workouts and podcast in particular.
The points raised here are valid and of course, the Crossfit Games athletes are elite-level athletes. The things they do are crazy and very impressive. But like the Olympics, PEDs are the norm not the exception.
- why, if you have a chance to be elite level and are doing everything (training, nutrition, sleep, mobility etc etc) would you not do EVERYTHING you can?
- the intensity is crazy and PEDs assist greatly with recovery which high-level athletes need. Especially athletes that are taxing their CNS so much.
- the physiques give it away too. Traps for days. Where there are a lot of anabolic receptors. The women in particular, there's some suspect deep voices sprinkled in there too.
Looks are an ambiguous way to judge drug use so my main argument is on the intensity and recovery aspect. The type of training and it's extreme duration make GF games athletes poster athletes for drugs due to their profound effect on recovery.
I am still a huge fan of CF and find what the elite level athletes do extremely impressive and I really don't care that most of them are on drugs. Its just the whole Crossfit Community being such loyal followers to the sport that they are blinded by the propoganda and refuse to believe that these guys and girls could be on the special sawce
most crossfit athletes are good people and don't believe in cheating or tarnishing their good name. It does happen, people do use, but i believe most of the top are clean. i think the steroid theory goes away when people ACTUALLY EXPERIENCE THE WORK THEY PUT IN. not just read about it but do it and feel it.
@@dmitrycherepov3242 it happens on a daily basis. Clearly you are so far from that level you are clueless what your body can really do.
@@dmitrycherepov3242 I agree with you 100% believe that there are many athletes on Ped‘s I just hate it whenever people say that everyone is because I know there are many athletes who are not and I’ve seen the work and recovery, work and recovery… some of the athletes I know are not smart enough to finish a coloring book much less pass a drug screen.
Thank you so much for sharing this Marcus 🙏🤩 I am 51 y/o and have for the last 6 years been doing BB and Powerlifting and I’m crossing over to Weightlifting/Crossfit now, which I like sooo much. There are so many benefits for my body in doing CF and I especially like the divercity in the sport 😊 It’s never too late and your video just encourages me to continue the hard work, not for the physics but for the fun of it - Thank you 🤩
Check out the traps and deltoids, these are the first 2 indicators as they are more receptive- they will be overly large. Next, if a person has large full muscles and a low bodyfat %. Just look at the exercises they are performing, back to back continuous exercises are endurance protocols. Olympic weightlifting has a super short duration per lift. Fast recovery is also a huge benefit. Now I don't really care if they are taking or natty- I do care when they try to waterboard you to believe that they are natural. Props to you though for going through all your points and not cracking up.
He's barfing up the same points that fake nattys say word for word
Everything you say about genetics, recovery, diet, years training, passion etc is what every top athlete does and have in every other sport. Crossfit is the only one that doesn't add PEDs?
Thanks for your comment. I'm not saying the CF doesn't use PEDs. I'm just saying I didn't and I believe others are able to do it without too
@@marcusfilly ur living proof, I'm taking notes, subscribed!
Bullshit. Crossfit terms have been caught using PEDs
Exactly. And the argument of the top athletes being the ones that are resilient enough to endure it doesn't make much sense.
These top 50/top 100 CF athletes are the top tier elite, they have the genetics, the mental strength *AND* PED's. By mere logic, if you manage to compete with top tier athletes that are absolute specimens and are on PED's, what does that make you? The only one chosen by god to defy all kinds of human limits? Fair enough, now multiply it by all the others who also claim natty.
Doesn't add up
It’s all in the traps.
im excited to start your program today is day 1 .
Awesome! Let me know how it goes 💪
Excellent Job. Congratulations 👏👏
Insanely well organized presentation 🤙.
Much appreciated!
I dont belive you.
I can’t understand some of the comments on here 🤔
Marcus just offered a detailed explanation as to why CF athlete’s have such bodies, then said the average person is not going to train to that level. So don’t compare what you can do and say they are jacked, just because the nay sayers all think it’s not achievable, and therefore you can’t achieve it without being on something. No appreciation for all the hours, days and years they put in, and their simple retort and negativity is more lame and without any proof! No mention that the athletes get random drug tested tested and is mandatory for the top 5. You only have to note, those that got found out and thrown out this year before the games. You will make what you want out of comments if your belief is fixed and negative. Good luck getting on in this world with such an attitude.
Well done Marcus for facing this head on. Those that practice, CF know how difficult it is and the appreciation. Those that don’t, just don’t understand it and feel it’s easier to critique than to try and understand or….. have a go.
Most athletes the professionals are on something which includes bodybuilder power lifter sports athletes the professionals lots of them taking something
Great video! A lot of the CrossFit bodies are attainable naturally by a small percentage of the population. Is testing of these athletes done legitimately or is it the joke testing where they tell the athletes when they're being tested so they can just cycle off whatever they're on? That's an honest question because I don't know.
About LMNT, I take it personally and it does have stevia leaf extract which is sugar
Also the sample is 5$ not free
Probably one of the best videos I’ve ever seen!!!
1) I did just three hours per week of CF and my body was slowly changing over time.
2) Anyone throwing PED accusations is just afraid that they cannot commit to the same level of consistency that you have ✌️
thanks for the personal anecdote
Let me guess, you believe the Rock is natural as well. .....
Let me guess, you don’t train 20 hours a week…
I trained track for years with a professional squad who had national champs, olympians and comms games athletes. We trained 6 days per week year in year out. Training 20 - 30 hours a week at a high intensity without PEDs to assist in recovery is fantasy land.
Haters gone hate!
Great content brother!
Great to see you address this with such class. There are many examples of top athletes that have been dishonest so I get why so many point to PEDS when they see success. I am 47 and have played sports and been in the gym my whole life. I have known many guys that have taken stuff some with success some you could never tell. To this day the most impressive athlete I know grows and harvests all of his food. He works harder on his own projects in one day than most do in a month. He does enjoy exercising with weights and has very few pieces of equipment. He does all of this with a smile and is one of the nicest guys I know. Point is Marcus is right. It can be done. Shut out the negativity and get after it.
I still don't see how the amount of volume going on coincides with recovery without PEDs. I have great genetics (Olympians / all Americans etc) and that volume is pure burnout mode.
You is just jealous becuz CrossFit women are stronger than you and could easily wrap their thighs around your neck and fart and shit while crushing your neck in their muscular legs.
Hey man, what is the device you are wearing on your upper Tricep for in the videos?
It’s a continuous glucose monitor
CGM. Just for some learning
This, and all your videos, are awesome.
appreciate it Jay
Currently on his Functional Bodybuilding Plan. It definitely not for the faint of heart.
Lots of crossfiters have more muscle and a little more fat than most natural bodybuilders… and, according to him, most are natural… that’s weird
Also at very low body fat. This dude is full of shit.
Not to defend Marcus' position on PED use (or lack thereof), but the usual bodybuilding training regimen is a joke compared to crossfit.
@@henrikgulyas
Oh yeah, you have to over train and fuck up all your joints in order to gain muscle, totally forgot. There was no tough functional training before a 45 year old rando came along and tought us how to make pull ups unhealthy and increase the risk of injury by making it an integral part of this so called sport to lift heavy weights as fast as possible.
Sure.
@@henrikgulyas
Dude, natural bodybuilders who compete, not your average Joe who likes to dangle his feet while texting on the leg extension machine. Actual natural bodybuilders, not you before you started crossfit. 😄
@@uhuhno6441 Hahaha, I assume that you assume that I am a crossfitter. Far from it. What I wanted to say is that complex barbell exercises, calisthenics, heavy carries, sprints etc. will undoubtedly build more muscle and strength than leg extensions and lateral raises. Also, the necessity to focus on so many disciplines at the time inherently increases training volume (at high intensity, as pointed out by Marcus).
And hey, btw, no kipping pullups for me! :) I exclusively do strict pullups, most of the time weighted. I could not swing much even if I wanted. :DDD
It's weird that in all other professional sports athletes are most injury resistant while they are young and gradually with age get more and more wear and tear until they can no longer train frequently enough to compete top level. But in Crossfit of all sports, athletes strangely becomes more injury resistant the older they get and become way more bulky and ripped than any Olympic athletes. Very weird.
it just takes time to adapt to the sport
Accumulate health and fitness as we age. This is not a one size fits all, but a progression of health as we learn not only to move well, but eat well, and smile and share our journey with others. Fitness, sport, and life are not finite but we should enjoy the journey and use those gifts given by God. Thank you Marcus.