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Serge Nubret, I knew him very well. Trained at his Paris gym from 1980 to 1988 and later from 2008 to 2009 he had a health problem in 2010 and passed away in 2011. I knew his wife Jacqueline, his children. He was a good man, decent classy guy, so different than todays Bodybuilders.
IF YOU TRAINED WITH SERGE IN 2005 or later he was training in a gym near Porte de Bagnolet north of Paris. I knew him from August 1980 to 2008. He used high volume training, with quite heavy weights considering the reps and sets. I remember doing 10 sets of 10-15 reps with 100kg on the bench press with Serge when he was almost 70. He was very intense and took only 45 seconds between each set. We trained with Serge and another bodybuilder who was about 26 years old and had a great physique. Serge did 10 sets and at the end he challenged the 26 year old to a bench press reps contest which ended in Serge doing 25 reps with 100kg and the younger guy did 28 reps… Remember Serge was almost 70 ! Serge would begin his day with 2000 abdominal sit ups on a foam mat each day, he also did broomstick twists for 30 mins a day. He did 2 workouts a day. I met him in 1980 and he was frighteningly cut ripped, he had fibrous muscle mass, incredibly good skin, he was a red/brown black color. He did donkey calf raises with me on his back… I was his training partner. RIP Serge
u are extremely lucky julien that you met Serge, I wish i want to meet Serge, RIP Serge, one of the best symmetry bodybuilder ever. Arnold stole his olympia trophie, joe weider did alot of dirty tricks on serge.
@@dtm4071 serge did huge volume and ate one giant meal about 3000-4000 calories and i have heard that its not safe to Follow the workout plan to a bodybuilder they use steroids
The 5 day old school program is slapping all kinds of muscle on me. I highly recommend it. I printed it out and placed each day on my wall, easy peezy. The work is hard but I love it.
This is incredibly useful. Besides fatigue management, keeping a couple reps in the tank per set to add up more total volume, it also sounds much safer. Back in the 70 you didn't see as many guys that looked like Frankenstein's monster all stitched back together with missmatching parts. I think the grinder reps and pushing every set to failure nentality has contributed to a lot of tendon tears. When someone says they want to be ripped they don't mean connective tissue.
this is called RIR based training (Reps in Reserve) .. you do 1-4 reps short of failure. to accumulate more total volume with less systemic fatigue.. works very well. books have been written about it and and very smart guys like Dr. Mike Israetel are advocates for this type of training, i use it with clients from beginner to very advanced and it works and is easily scalable
This is super encouraging. I have had a lot of success with a very similar routine, but have gotten caught up in changing my routine every 2 or 3 weeks, looking for the perfect combination of reps/sets. It's great to know I was on the right track. By the way, I have gotten more out of watching about a half dozen of your videos than 20 of lots of other guys.
Great video and respect to Serge. He never caved to the Weider's but had his own method of training. He trained for hypertrophy and the results were perfection. My personal favorite physique of all time. Thanks for this post!
I talked for 1 hour with Mike Mentzer in January 1990 at Gold's when he was doing personal training, one of the things he DID say was "You can either work out my way, or work out like Serge Nubret and spend 5 hours in the gym".
Training 5 days a week. Yes, the fatigue 😩 is reall.. but I love my results. People inside the gym lift heavy, but look flat. They ask me how I do it. All I did was learn from the best. 🖤
Imagine 800 grams of protein per day. The protein farts would kill everybody in my neighborhood haha 💨. Love this channel…hard work pays off…keep grinding! 💪🏋️♂️
I just started the 10 ×10 and it is awesome I get a super pumped the best pumps I ever had I pick out 5 body parts and do 1 exercise for each body part and I do 10 sets 10 reps awesome 💪💪💪
@@paulchristie3306 I rest 30 -45 seconds in between sets some times it takes me a hour but it took me a while to be able to train like that I follow Vince breathing techniques I tell everyone Vince is truly the best trainer of all time
Just a wild question that's been in the back of my head, do you think incorporating intervals of strongman/powerlifting style training such as the log press, farmer walks, stone loading......in my program would help with muscle density and conditioning along with a main high rep bodybuilding routine, the idea came to me because arnold franco colombu and ronnie coleman always had an insane grainy dense looking muscle and many attribute that to their powerlifting backgrounds, as I have noticed that the leaner powerlifters tend to have "powerful" lookingand surprizingly "aesthetic" physiques. as always thanks for the infos
I think powerlifting or lower rep heavy weight training in phases can be beneficial. You need to keep it as close to possible as your bodybuilding training for more carry over. For example heavy bench will carry over more to bodybuilding than heavy log press
I was also on that thread he references. I did 6x12, 5-6 different exercises per body part. I did it for a year straight. I picked a weight that caused me to fail on the 6th set before I reached 12 reps. I also only trained 1 body part 1 time a week as opposed to 2 times a week. I went from about 190 lbs to 182 lbs. I got super shredded. I had quality to my muscle. My body did shrink and I lost all of my strength. I was also 21-22 years old when I did this. Minimum of 1 hour and 20 minutes in the gym following a strict 1 minute break. My takeaways.. 1. If I were to do it again I would do something similar to what he’s saying in the video or I could probably achieve the results desired with 3x12 failing on the 3rd set before I reached the 12th rep as I believe that would’ve saved some strength. I’m now 36 and my recovery would be no where what it was back then. 2. I would’ve eaten a lot more protein and carbs. 3. I would not do it for a year straight but for maybe cutting up for a period of weeks. Note* My training partner did every body part twice a week and was getting bigger and stronger from it. My body did not respond the same way. *Right after I did this workout I started a new workout where I went back to a more traditional 3-4 sets of 6-10 reps and I got absolutely jacked and the quality from Serge’s training really shined through. A golden era look. *I have since abandoned this way of training over the years but after watching this post have become inspired to try it again.
Just wanted to let you know that I was getting discouraged from lifting because I didn't feel like I was making enough progress for the amount of effort I was putting in until I found your channel and I have made pretty good gains over the last 6 weeks
These legendary physiques are a result of genetics and response to drugs and not a result of a specific training routine. For example - Arnold's chest routine is well documented but no one has managed to build a chest like Arnold. Lee Priest's 20 sets on Tri's & Bi's has been copied by many, but no ones built arms like Lee Priest. Dorian Yates back routine will have been copied by many thousands around the world, yet no one has built a back like Dorian. Serge Nubret had a physique that many aspire to emulate. His training routine and diet is well documented and many thousands will have given it a go, but again no one has ever looked anything like Serge. I have personally trained in hard-core bodybuilding gym's since the late 80's. Training with and alongside very good competitive amateur bodybuilders. And without a doubt what made these guys so much better than the rest is their incredible response to steroids. In fact the best physiques in the gym were very often party animals who were out clubbing at the weekends mixing recreational drugs with PED's. Some guys for example can start off taking Dianabol and pack on 15lbs of solid quality muscle, whilst others just get a red bloated puffy face. People obsess about knowing every detail of a legendary bodybuilders training routine and diet when in fact its completely irrelevant to your own progress. If you're completely natural then that's entirely different as you are then relying on the workout itself along with nutrition for your gains. However there really is no legendary physique that was built entirely natural and that includes the likes of Leroy Colbert as steroids were readily available in his era.
@@PeterKhatcherian My journey over the past 15+ years trying to absorb all the information from the past and current brightest minds in bodybuilding/fitness lead me to your channel. My personal goal was to filter out the best of all the greats. And it seems to me you have been doing this for quite some time. And it's a great feeling that there legacies will always be past along with channels like yours. Lovin It
His intensity was so high that lift heavier would defeat the purpose. Constant training and peak contraction thru out workout. Also his weight selection was such that one could perform 24 reps on a given weight BUT keep the reps at 12 for as many sets possible with resting at 30 seconds.
Very interesting ~ I was doing this type of workout almost exactly back in the mid 90s. I learned it from some of the gym bros, and I did have phenomenal results with it. Kinda like 4 sets of 8 reps per exercise, and 4 or 5 exercises per muscle group. Very high volume, but I was young and eat like a horse and I have the genetics for it. But it's not for the casual gym rat. I've had different workout partners quit on me claiming their bones had begun to ache too much lift with me lol
This is highly interesting tbh, reminding me a bit of German Volume training. Even after 25+ years of Training, the problem i always have is general fatigue the day after a Workout, to a point where i can hardly do anything that day. Going to failiure each set is so engrained in my habit, it's hard to do otherwise to be honest. In a high volume, mid intensity workout, what resting time between sets would you recommend? Also in the video, the workout you show as a example, what training split did you do there? Muscle group once a week? or more?
Pete did a video earlier where I think he referenced Vince Gironda's 8 sets of 8 paramter and for that, he recommended 1:30 - 2:00 minutes between sets. That should give you an idea at least in terms of rest time
Roarbert Bearatheon Thanks for the reply i'm going to watch it. Rick Leeman Michel Rood You guys are absolutely right. The thing is, it just feels "incomplete" when i stop before i come near failiure. I know it's just a mental thing, but it's surprisingly difficult to overcome, lol.
@@nealsterling8151 Going to failure everytime becomes catabolic in the long run, you wont gain any mass in fact you might lose some. When i squat heavy, meaning 600+ pounds, I go for reps, Not for failure, i got to leave some gas in the tank and the weight is enough for hypertrophy, if I would go to or past failure on these heavy compound movements i would gas out and my nervous system would just shut down, so then I cant do any other exercises afterwards..we have to train smart. I suggest going to failure on lighter days where you do high reps if you absolutly want to
You didn't start eating Horse meat like Serge did you?...hahaha....But seriously, Nubret was a legend and it is so cool you actually learned and conversed with the man. The late great Author Robert Kennedy of MuscleMag fame wrote a lot about Nubret's training and eating methods as well. He was big on training a muscle with a maximum pump....and then "leaving the pump there" take a break and then come back to the next bodypart. He subscribed to the "Fatigue Product Theory" espoused by Dennis DuBreul. Basically the theory is that after a pump, the blood, lactic acid and other systemic byproducts that are in the muscle need to stay there for a while to "properly do there job". 20 minutes was the minimum wait time, and THEN go to the next bodypart. NOT doing so actually short changed your progress on that particular muscle group. He was also into daily ab training by the clock. According to Kennedy, he would not count reps or sets. He would just watch the clock. Anywhere from 30 minutes to an Hour!!!....Just blasting out the reps, taking a break when he felt like it and kept going. Is it any wonder his abs were so good and how he did little if any aerobic's during his competitive years? Yes, Nubret was a legend and a treasure. We can all learn from his wisdom.
I mentaly cant do RPE. It just feels wrong to stop if you know you can do 1 or 2 reps more. And I feel like garbage if I stop knowing I didnt give it my all.
I’ve found Nubret very interesting to me and you can build muscles even heavy HIT, volume by using 6-15 reps and this wouldn’t be so sure of, but find it interesting. I mean it’s believable I’ve done sissy squats for 8x12 legs were on fire and sore. If this is the key to mass gains than good if not then I know
Love it, Sounds good and I'm here for it. He basically used moderate weight for aerobics. But, misleading for the beginner because he took more roids than a race horse.
I usually rest 20-30 seconds once I failed to hit my perceived rep it’s usually 1-3 reps short then go on and continue the 2-3 reps and count it as one set Example set 1 = 10reps set 2 = 8 with 20-30 seconds rest then go with the 2 reps I still get to complete the total volume i was aiming for was just wondering if this is a good idea should I continue it or stick to the basics I enjoy training till failure but I also want to get my volume up
Okay 8 years ago when I tried his program I begun overtraining and couldn’t sleep correctly. Now I’ve tried it again and I spent 2 hrs in the gym and it’s the exact same thing. Surge Nubret was HEAVY on steroids and so I think this biased his results… what’s weird is he even lied about it all the way until his death.. so how’s that for honesty
Have you tried this and know it doesn’t work for natural trainers? How many natural trainers have you spoken with that have tried this routine and failed?
Leroy Colbert (RIP) recommended a whole body workout every other day, one exercise per body part, 3 sets of 8-10 reps, not counting warmup set(s). I did try Serge's program years ago. Never been fitter, but it was hard work eating all that protein every day. As I natural, I could do it again, but all I'd do on that program is eat and sleep. It would be a full-time job.
I may be in the minority so disregard if so but the drum beat was really distracting when trying to listen for 8 minutes. Prefer just hearing your take without having to mentally tune it out. Regardless you do great work.
Do you have an th experience doing a pull / push split where you do quads in push and hammies om pull. I like the idea, But can find it troublesome to execute.
I have done them and in my opinion you'll need 2 different sessions in the day for that atleast for push because train shoulder chest triceps quads and calves becomes alot but pull is pretty much a normal pull day with hamstring curls I think this split is called anterior and posterior training split you can find more information about it on reddit
@@ByronTexas If you train HIT, you'll get fat if you don't do aerobics. Along with the 2000 setups a day, Serge's workout does the double job of muscle building and conditioning simultaneously. He ate rice and beans every day, even right up to contest time.
I have seen the workouts but I am confused 50 sets 30 seconds rest and he was in the gym 4 to 5 hours the math does not work maybe 1.5 to 2 hours max I buy 5hours for this workout does not compute
@@Mandyzzzz Actually, 2000 sit-ups in the morning, first body part later, second body part much later. He spent around 5 total hours in the gym, but he wasn't lifting for 5 hours straight!
Hi @Pete can you please elaborate on his routines for mass. Did he still use lighter weight and less rest like 30secs. I am a huge Serge fan and I try to implement his principles best I can. Best regards from South Africa
Just wanna say 12 reps with a 20 rep weight is NOT 1-3 reps short of failure. It’s 8 reps short of failure. I’m adding this because I keep reading “two reps short of failure” in the comments
Here’s my thought process: the first 3 sets are “warmup pump sets” and the last 3 are your real working sets but because you started the first 3 for the warmup, your joints feel good and you’re pumping blood but the last 3 are where you really have to grind and fight through the pain. So eventually you will be 1-3 reps in reserve the last few.
Imagine if Sergio followed Mike Mentizer program and allowed himself proper recovery... He would have been a mass monster and beaten Arnold hands down. Just thinking.
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Serge Nubret, I knew him very well. Trained at his Paris gym from 1980 to 1988 and later from 2008 to 2009 he had a health problem in 2010 and passed away in 2011.
I knew his wife Jacqueline, his children.
He was a good man, decent classy guy, so different than todays Bodybuilders.
IF YOU TRAINED WITH SERGE IN 2005 or later he was training in a gym near Porte de Bagnolet north of Paris. I knew him from August 1980 to 2008. He used high volume training, with quite heavy weights considering the reps and sets. I remember doing 10 sets of 10-15 reps with 100kg on the bench press with Serge when he was almost 70. He was very intense and took only 45 seconds between each set. We trained with Serge and another bodybuilder who was about 26 years old and had a great physique.
Serge did 10 sets and at the end he challenged the 26 year old to a bench press reps contest which ended in Serge doing 25 reps with 100kg and the younger guy did 28 reps… Remember Serge was almost 70 !
Serge would begin his day with 2000 abdominal sit ups on a foam mat each day, he also did broomstick twists for 30 mins a day. He did 2 workouts a day.
I met him in 1980 and he was frighteningly cut ripped, he had fibrous muscle mass, incredibly good skin, he was a red/brown black color.
He did donkey calf raises with me on his back… I was his training partner. RIP Serge
did he do the chest/quad, back/hamstring, shoulder/arm split?
u are extremely lucky julien that you met Serge, I wish i want to meet Serge, RIP Serge, one of the best symmetry bodybuilder ever. Arnold stole his olympia trophie, joe weider did alot of dirty tricks on serge.
No wonder Big VIC Admired him and could probably followed his routines
ROIDS
My all time favorite bodybuilder.
His shoulders were insane, small waist, crazy chest too.
Incredible physique for sure
Serge was physical perfection
Even thought this man was on steroids but I like how his shoulders and triceps are evened out with his chest, and his chest not being so big.
The best body ever!!!
Bodybuilders from the old school era are still the best!
Agreed !
I still use his routine/training principles to this day. Nothing works better. Serge was a Genius.
Awesome 💪🏻💪🏻
Mind share your routine bro?
How are you able to walk? Extreme volume and one giant meal daily?
@@eivindgj3761 because the body adapts. People have been conned into thinking they need 6 meals a day and to train for only 45 minutes.
@@dtm4071 serge did huge volume and ate one giant meal about 3000-4000 calories and i have heard that its not safe to Follow the workout plan to a bodybuilder they use steroids
The 5 day old school program is slapping all kinds of muscle on me. I highly recommend it. I printed it out and placed each day on my wall, easy peezy. The work is hard but I love it.
This is incredibly useful. Besides fatigue management, keeping a couple reps in the tank per set to add up more total volume, it also sounds much safer. Back in the 70 you didn't see as many guys that looked like Frankenstein's monster all stitched back together with missmatching parts. I think the grinder reps and pushing every set to failure nentality has contributed to a lot of tendon tears. When someone says they want to be ripped they don't mean connective tissue.
Surge Nubret thought outside the box.Very wise.He had the best physique in my opinion back then along with Frank Zane
Soooooooo true, Floss.
Serge Nubret superb.
this is called RIR based training (Reps in Reserve) .. you do 1-4 reps short of failure. to accumulate more total volume with less systemic fatigue.. works very well. books have been written about it and and very smart guys like Dr. Mike Israetel are advocates for this type of training,
i use it with clients from beginner to very advanced and it works and is easily scalable
40 sets of 20 for chest. Saw him at the 1974 Mr. Olympia at The Felt Forum in NY.
Thanks for another solid video Pete.....that's awesome that Serge took the time to answer all your questions.
This is super encouraging. I have had a lot of success with a very similar routine, but have gotten caught up in changing my routine every 2 or 3 weeks, looking for the perfect combination of reps/sets. It's great to know I was on the right track. By the way, I have gotten more out of watching about a half dozen of your videos than 20 of lots of other guys.
Great video and respect to Serge. He never caved to the Weider's but had his own method of training. He trained for hypertrophy and the results were perfection. My personal favorite physique of all time. Thanks for this post!
I talked for 1 hour with Mike Mentzer in January 1990 at Gold's when he was doing personal training, one of the things he DID say was "You can either work out my way, or work out like Serge Nubret and spend 5 hours in the gym".
Volume is king with incredible intensity!!!!
Training 5 days a week. Yes, the fatigue 😩 is reall.. but I love my results. People inside the gym lift heavy, but look flat. They ask me how I do it. All I did was learn from the best. 🖤
😂😂 😂 so you lift light weights😂😂
@@promo130 It's true, I just let go of my ego and tried it. I don't lift super heavy and the results are crazy.
@@ArtisticTiger9 😂😂 your tiny buddy
315 Incline Bench press!
@@promo130 i lift light weights and was 270lb-300lb 6ft and huge compared to you in every area.
Learning a lot from you peter thank you
Thank you for the support 💪🏻💪🏻
Imagine 800 grams of protein per day. The protein farts would kill everybody in my neighborhood haha 💨. Love this channel…hard work pays off…keep grinding! 💪🏋️♂️
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Ha ha ha
How about kidney Heath?
Interesting thing is that with only meat and no prot powder I never farted.
Because he was on drugs thus he needed that amount, though he still works hard
Just bought one of your programs! I never have bought any program before but your info is so good that I had to give it a shot 🤘🏻
Commenting for better reach keep it up sir .... ❤️
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Protect this man at all costs. He is the living homage to the OG lifters.
Extremely well explained. And I believe you most importantly. Powerful commentary.
Totally agree. Exactly how you said it.
I've done all the different methods over 30 years of training and came to the exact same conclusions.
So you follow nubrets training principles?
Volume training with le dianabol .
Amazing physique for sure.
I just started the 10 ×10 and it is awesome I get a super pumped the best pumps I ever had I pick out 5 body parts and do 1 exercise for each body part and I do 10 sets 10 reps awesome 💪💪💪
Does your workout take 3 hours ?
@@paulchristie3306 no it takes me 45 minutes to a hour
@@lamont8497 You do 50 sets in 45 mins ? Lmao
@@paulchristie3306 I rest 30 -45 seconds in between sets some times it takes me a hour but it took me a while to be able to train like that I follow Vince breathing techniques I tell everyone Vince is truly the best trainer of all time
@@lamont8497how were the final results? Are you still doing 10x10?
Just a wild question that's been in the back of my head, do you think incorporating intervals of strongman/powerlifting style training such as the log press, farmer walks, stone loading......in my program would help with muscle density and conditioning along with a main high rep bodybuilding routine, the idea came to me because arnold franco colombu and ronnie coleman always had an insane grainy dense looking muscle and many attribute that to their powerlifting backgrounds, as I have noticed that the leaner powerlifters tend to have "powerful" lookingand surprizingly "aesthetic" physiques. as always thanks for the infos
I think powerlifting or lower rep heavy weight training in phases can be beneficial. You need to keep it as close to possible as your bodybuilding training for more carry over. For example heavy bench will carry over more to bodybuilding than heavy log press
I was also on that thread he references. I did 6x12, 5-6 different exercises per body part. I did it for a year straight. I picked a weight that caused me to fail on the 6th set before I reached 12 reps. I also only trained 1 body part 1 time a week as opposed to 2 times a week. I went from about 190 lbs to 182 lbs. I got super shredded. I had quality to my muscle. My body did shrink and I lost all of my strength. I was also 21-22 years old when I did this. Minimum of 1 hour and 20 minutes in the gym following a strict 1 minute break.
My takeaways..
1. If I were to do it again I would do something similar to what he’s saying in the video or I could probably achieve the results desired with 3x12 failing on the 3rd set before I reached the 12th rep as I believe that would’ve saved some strength. I’m now 36 and my recovery would be no where what it was back then.
2. I would’ve eaten a lot more protein and carbs.
3. I would not do it for a year straight but for maybe cutting up for a period of weeks.
Note* My training partner did every body part twice a week and was getting bigger and stronger from it. My body did not respond the same way.
*Right after I did this workout I started a new workout where I went back to a more traditional 3-4 sets of 6-10 reps and I got absolutely jacked and the quality from Serge’s training really shined through. A golden era look.
*I have since abandoned this way of training over the years but after watching this post have become inspired to try it again.
Im 2 weeks in and I look bigger and look leaner
@@ClassicPhysique27 That’s great!
@@MrArnoldarnold thank you!
I’m lovin the serge nubret videos
i know i asked in the past and it didn't enthusiast you much, but could you talk about your gear use? you look awesome
I only do barbell clean and press with moderate weight every other day
No one maybe Zane had better Symmetry.Both were Fabulous in BB
keep it up brother 💪💪
50reps and 800grams protein mind blowing truly black panther 🔥🔥🔥
What’s your opinion of some UA-camrs like Jay Vincent who decry volume training and advocate just ONE set per body part
These videos are great man. Thanks for the work!!!
Thank you for these videos man
Love the channel bro! I was there too when Serge was around.
Do you still use his routine?
@@dtm4071 Its been years since I used it. I want to go back to it. I noticed that Serge passed away in his 70s looking swole.
@@ss4vegeta1 He was. Incredible. Dude get back on it!
What a Monsta on tha left
Just wanted to let you know that I was getting discouraged from lifting because I didn't feel like I was making enough progress for the amount of effort I was putting in until I found your channel and I have made pretty good gains over the last 6 weeks
@MuscleTalkRadio explain more bro
Would love commentary from you about some of Arnold's recommendations for going as low as 1-3 reps for arm isolation work when mass is the goal.
These legendary physiques are a result of genetics and response to drugs and not a result of a specific training routine.
For example - Arnold's chest routine is well documented but no one has managed to build a chest like Arnold.
Lee Priest's 20 sets on Tri's & Bi's has been copied by many, but no ones built arms like Lee Priest.
Dorian Yates back routine will have been copied by many thousands around the world, yet no one has built a back like Dorian.
Serge Nubret had a physique that many aspire to emulate. His training routine and diet is well documented and many thousands will have given it a go, but again no one has ever looked anything like Serge.
I have personally trained in hard-core bodybuilding gym's since the late 80's. Training with and alongside very good competitive amateur bodybuilders. And without a doubt what made these guys so much better than the rest is their incredible response to steroids. In fact the best physiques in the gym were very often party animals who were out clubbing at the weekends mixing recreational drugs with PED's.
Some guys for example can start off taking Dianabol and pack on 15lbs of solid quality muscle, whilst others just get a red bloated puffy face.
People obsess about knowing every detail of a legendary bodybuilders training routine and diet when in fact its completely irrelevant to your own progress. If you're completely natural then that's entirely different as you are then relying on the workout itself along with nutrition for your gains. However there really is no legendary physique that was built entirely natural and that includes the likes of Leroy Colbert as steroids were readily available in his era.
I totally agree with you.
Arnolds biceps and chest responded well to steroids and alot of volume but his shoulders, triceps and forearms were decent
Look up Oskar Faarkog, he was a skinny fat dude and he follows Serge Nubret's approach for the most part. His results have been pretty damn good.
I wonder what those party animal rec-drug clubber dudes on PEDs from the 80s look like know.
I've read that the Mentzer brothers in 60s used to do same questioning with Bill Pearl. Peter is the next generation here.
After 8 weeks on Peter's 5 day mass program, I can report it works.
Bro you look like an old school bodybuilder with your white tank top. Great information.
Love the channel.
Thank you for the support💪🏻
@@PeterKhatcherian My journey over the past 15+ years trying to absorb all the information from the past and current brightest minds in bodybuilding/fitness lead me to your channel. My personal goal was to filter out the best of all the greats. And it seems to me you have been doing this for quite some time. And it's a great feeling that there legacies will always be past along with channels like yours. Lovin It
Lots of love buddy ❤️❤️
Thank you 💪🏻💪🏻
@@PeterKhatcherian how to build stubborn chest and tricpes and how to cure a powerlifting belly
Serge Nubret greatest physique ever
deserve wayyyy more subscribers
His intensity was so high that lift heavier would defeat the purpose. Constant training and peak contraction thru out workout. Also his weight selection was such that one could perform 24 reps on a given weight BUT keep the reps at 12 for as many sets possible with resting at 30 seconds.
Serge was a freak. Wish he was featured in Pumping Iron
Very interesting ~ I was doing this type of workout almost exactly back in the mid 90s. I learned it from some of the gym bros, and I did have phenomenal results with it. Kinda like 4 sets of 8 reps per exercise, and 4 or 5 exercises per muscle group. Very high volume, but I was young and eat like a horse and I have the genetics for it. But it's not for the casual gym rat. I've had different workout partners quit on me claiming their bones had begun to ache too much lift with me lol
This is highly interesting tbh, reminding me a bit of German Volume training.
Even after 25+ years of Training, the problem i always have is general fatigue the day after a Workout, to a point where i can hardly do anything that day. Going to failiure each set is so engrained in my habit, it's hard to do otherwise to be honest.
In a high volume, mid intensity workout, what resting time between sets would you recommend?
Also in the video, the workout you show as a example, what training split did you do there? Muscle group once a week? or more?
Pete did a video earlier where I think he referenced Vince Gironda's 8 sets of 8 paramter and for that, he recommended 1:30 - 2:00 minutes between sets. That should give you an idea at least in terms of rest time
I have exactly the same thing. I hate that tired feeling the day after. But to be honest; going to faillure all the time causes this fatigue!
Why do even go to or past failure?? If you go heavy enough theres no need to..
Roarbert Bearatheon
Thanks for the reply i'm going to watch it.
Rick Leeman
Michel Rood
You guys are absolutely right. The thing is, it just feels "incomplete" when i stop before i come near failiure. I know it's just a mental thing, but it's surprisingly difficult to overcome, lol.
@@nealsterling8151 Going to failure everytime becomes catabolic in the long run, you wont gain any mass in fact you might lose some. When i squat heavy, meaning 600+ pounds, I go for reps, Not for failure, i got to leave some gas in the tank and the weight is enough for hypertrophy, if I would go to or past failure on these heavy compound movements i would gas out and my nervous system would just shut down, so then I cant do any other exercises afterwards..we have to train smart. I suggest going to failure on lighter days where you do high reps if you absolutly want to
You didn't start eating Horse meat like Serge did you?...hahaha....But seriously, Nubret was a legend and it is so cool you actually learned and conversed with the man. The late great Author Robert Kennedy of MuscleMag fame wrote a lot about Nubret's training and eating methods as well.
He was big on training a muscle with a maximum pump....and then "leaving the pump there" take a break and then come back to the next bodypart.
He subscribed to the "Fatigue Product Theory" espoused by Dennis DuBreul. Basically the theory is that after a pump, the blood, lactic acid and other systemic byproducts that are in the muscle need to stay there for a while to "properly do there job".
20 minutes was the minimum wait time, and THEN go to the next bodypart. NOT doing so actually short changed your progress on that particular muscle group.
He was also into daily ab training by the clock. According to Kennedy, he would not count reps or sets. He would just watch the clock. Anywhere from 30 minutes to an Hour!!!....Just blasting out the reps, taking a break when he felt like it and kept going. Is it any wonder his abs were so good and how he did little if any aerobic's during his competitive years?
Yes, Nubret was a legend and a treasure. We can all learn from his wisdom.
great stuff. Thank you for sharing. That dude's body is right there with Arnold, maybe better IMO
I mentaly cant do RPE. It just feels wrong to stop if you know you can do 1 or 2 reps more. And I feel like garbage if I stop knowing I didnt give it my all.
Great video thx Pete
Wow, little wonder he passed at age 71.
He was a bodybuilder til the end too
Garbage
Ahh you made the video we talked about…well done
Thanks bud
These videos are great
I’ve found Nubret very interesting to me and you can build muscles even heavy HIT, volume by using 6-15 reps and this wouldn’t be so sure of, but find it interesting. I mean it’s believable I’ve done sissy squats for 8x12 legs were on fire and sore. If this is the key to mass gains than good if not then I know
Very helpful! Thanks @PeterKhatcherian.
One of the greatest looking bodybuilders of all time even better than Arnold especially shoulders and waist.
Love it, Sounds good and I'm here for it. He basically used moderate weight for aerobics. But, misleading for the beginner because he took more roids than a race horse.
Hi, new subscriber here. What about warming up? How would he approach that and technically that would be part of the total volume right?
Hey i got a question im 15 i weigh 114lbs im 5'7. Should i train 4x per week?
yes
So did he ever go up on the weight or he just always kept 225 on the bar
Q bien gracias por la traducción al español se notaron un goloso de media cancha
Your physique is pretty good 👍 nice balance 👌
Serge did 100's of crunches, ate one huge meal per day (horsemeat, rice & beans) & did 15 reps per set.
He did 2000 daily sit-ups.
Dude you have a really big arms
Would you please share with us your arm routine?
That’s the reply of small people everywhere!
I usually rest 20-30 seconds once I failed to hit my perceived rep it’s usually 1-3 reps short then go on and continue the 2-3 reps and count it as one set Example set 1 = 10reps
set 2 = 8 with 20-30 seconds rest then go with the 2 reps I still get to complete the total volume i was aiming for
was just wondering if this is a good idea should I continue it or stick to the basics I enjoy training till failure but I also want to get my volume up
Best body EVER!!!
Okay 8 years ago when I tried his program I begun overtraining and couldn’t sleep correctly.
Now I’ve tried it again and I spent 2 hrs in the gym and it’s the exact same thing. Surge Nubret was HEAVY on steroids and so I think this biased his results… what’s weird is he even lied about it all the way until his death.. so how’s that for honesty
Yet it worked for everyone on the forums and everyone in his gyms that he owned....
@@dtm4071 You don't get insomnia? and who? any before afters?
Are you going to failure? Maybe try lowering the weight down and staying 2 reps away from failure
He said not to try his program if you weren't prepared to eat more. He calculated that he needed 4,400 calories/day. Were you getting that much?
I would not recommend this regime for naturals. For naturals I'd recommend 3 gym sessions a week, each gym session to train the entire body.
Have you tried this and know it doesn’t work for natural trainers? How many natural trainers have you spoken with that have tried this routine and failed?
Leroy Colbert (RIP) recommended a whole body workout every other day, one exercise per body part, 3 sets of 8-10 reps, not counting warmup set(s). I did try Serge's program years ago. Never been fitter, but it was hard work eating all that protein every day. As I natural, I could do it again, but all I'd do on that program is eat and sleep. It would be a full-time job.
Hey pete,why have you deleted Serge nubret diet video?
I may be in the minority so disregard if so but the drum beat was really distracting when trying to listen for 8 minutes. Prefer just hearing your take without having to mentally tune it out. Regardless you do great work.
Appreciate the feedback. Thank you
Serge Nubret and Frank Zane had the best most beautiful physique of all bodybuilders.
i read he only eat one meal per day of 5,000 cals.
Do you have an th experience doing a pull / push split where you do quads in push and hammies om pull. I like the idea, But can find it troublesome to execute.
I have done them and in my opinion you'll need 2 different sessions in the day for that atleast for push because train shoulder chest triceps quads and calves becomes alot but pull is pretty much a normal pull day with hamstring curls I think this split is called anterior and posterior training split you can find more information about it on reddit
I’ve done it. The stronger you become the more difficult and time extensive this setup becomes.
serge did chest/quads and back/hamstrings on different days
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So pretty much the exact opposite to what Mentzer did
Crazy right? that's why it's never a good idea to stick to just one training approach.
HIT is “better” because you can do a couple hard 30 minute workouts per week. If you LOVE training like Serge did, training economy isn’t important
@@ByronTexas If you train HIT, you'll get fat if you don't do aerobics. Along with the 2000 setups a day, Serge's workout does the double job of muscle building and conditioning simultaneously. He ate rice and beans every day, even right up to contest time.
@@diaprojectdiss2142 Really? I trained HIT exclusively from age 19-24 and had a six pack the entire time.
@@ByronTexas You were 19-24, lol. Just keep living, son.
Nice
Serge .... outstanding crazy aesthetic bodybuilder
he shod have been picked the winner against Arnold and lou in 1974
Bro your huge
5:47 225 x 4* Not 6 😉
I have seen the workouts but I am confused 50 sets 30 seconds rest and he was in the gym 4 to 5 hours the math does not work maybe 1.5 to 2 hours max I buy 5hours for this workout does not compute
2000 sit ups also, then another session at night.
@@Mandyzzzz Actually, 2000 sit-ups in the morning, first body part later, second body part much later. He spent around 5 total hours in the gym, but he wasn't lifting for 5 hours straight!
Hi @Pete can you please elaborate on his routines for mass. Did he still use lighter weight and less rest like 30secs. I am a huge Serge fan and I try to implement his principles best I can. Best regards from South Africa
Wonder how many horses he consumed in his lifetime.
Just wanna say 12 reps with a 20 rep weight is NOT 1-3 reps short of failure. It’s 8 reps short of failure.
I’m adding this because I keep reading “two reps short of failure” in the comments
Here’s my thought process: the first 3 sets are “warmup pump sets” and the last 3 are your real working sets but because you started the first 3 for the warmup, your joints feel good and you’re pumping blood but the last 3 are where you really have to grind and fight through the pain. So eventually you will be 1-3 reps in reserve the last few.
Better program than HIT
It is. HIT sucks.
@@dtm4071do u do Nubrets workout
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Peter ….be careful with the protein …. Check your kidneys
Imagine if Sergio followed Mike Mentizer program and allowed himself proper recovery... He would have been a mass monster and beaten Arnold hands down. Just thinking.
Imagine if Mike did Serge’s routine and didn’t fry his nerves, how awesome Mentzer could have been!
Goes both ways
50 sets???? I do 10 per session and I die every time.
he didn't lift heavy weights, he was focused on pump.
On April 19, 2011 Serge Nubret a French professional bodybuilder, author and movie actor passed away at the age of 72. His funeral is to be held on April 29, 2011 in Paris.
Serge nutrition wasn't too bright.
You NEED bigger deltoids!
You are the reason people say “Don’t read the comments”.