The Truth About PED's in Bodybuilding!
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The Truth About PED's in Bodybuilding!
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I trained for years natural, bodybuilding and powerlifting, went on 8 weeks of Dianabol and made more gains than I had for years.There is a big difference on and off steroids
100%
Yes, but you were still training, probably harder than people who want to short cut the process.
does water count as gains
@@tonykenneally Game recognises game! True words bro!
How long does that work for tho?
The Best Video every guy 16 to 90 need to watch !!!!
Great informative video. The amount of people in UA-cam comments making bold statements about PEDs while having literally zero experience with them is frustrating/laughable
I have zero experience of taking gear and it drives ME mad seeing the amount of BS people put across as 'fact' about steroids despite obviously not having a single clue what they're talking about lol
There is a line between enhanced and natural. As enhanced you can and will train more, that’s one of the reasons you see muscle tears on enhanced. My 2c
Just because you can train more on PEDs it doesn't mean that you should. PEDs alone also don't cause muscle tearing...
@@erfoo543 Yeah and all Mr Olympias would be the same without them right? Come on you definitely haven’t trained hard enough to be so tempted to use PED like that colleague that recovers so fast. Be serious and admit that there is a giant difference. With PED’s even not genetically gifted guys or girls can be influencers and tell us that we can be the same if we eat faqn broccoli and chicken. Hollywood and you believe that… SMH
I got on TRT at the age of 58, been on it 14 months now. I personally feel like TRT doesn’t give me anything I don’t earn. If I don’t eat for my goals and train hard I get nothing out of it. Honestly I feel like a really good nights sleep does more for me than the TRT. Just MY 2 cents
Right. I have patients on TRT and don't even lift. Other older patients might be lifting but not serious and still have 14" arms after 5 + yrs in the gym. Right. Sleep, diet, nutrition and lifestyle (avoid alcohol, avoid stress) can have a bigger effect than the TRT / HRT.
So just don’t take it anymore.
You can’t. Liar
So, if a good night of sleep does better than the TRT, why don't you just quit your treatment and go to bed earlier? By the way, I am on 140mg of Test cypionate per week, work out 5 times a week, keep a close eye on my diet, protein and carbs intake, do cardio and follow a very strict bed time frame, ah I am 56 years old, and TRT does make a huge difference.
Wrong
You are the ONLY person who interpreted the testosterone study correctly. I have pointed this out so many times and just get slammed with uneducated comments arguing with me
People who take steroids do not have to work as hard to build muscle. Steroid users can build much more muscle with the same or less effort. The only influencers who say otherwise are users. I don’t care if they or you take steroids but please stop with naturals and steroid users are the same.
You can't convince anyone that Jason Blaha looks better than any big natty. Pure nonsense from you. Just because you're on juice, does not mean you'll look like you lift.
@aeoliun a guy who is extremely generically advantaged will have more muscle than a lot of poor responders on gear or not as genetically gifted individuals on even high doses, take that genetic freak on roids and you have a Mr.Olympia.
An average guy on gear with average response will outgrow most moderately talented naturals. Gear doesn't do all the work but for someone like 215lbs at 5'9" at 21% after 1 year of lifting and you sauce me up for 5+ years I won't guarantee I would win a MR.O but I would look like someone who competes at that level provide I can handle the gear.
My point is genetics are everything but gear can add 30-70 lbs on top of your peak physique and you will attain it faster.
Did you even watch the video?
@@aeoliun who said anything about what you look like?
@@vonclarktheshark2279 Yes, did you watch it?
cant waif for the nh response video 🙏🏼
From reading online and listening to some pros and youtube videos it is somewhat like that:
Tier1: Nothing
Tier2: 110mg test
Tier2:5: 130mg test, 35mg anavar (weekly), 3hgh
Tier3 200-250mg test
Tier4: 450-600mg test
Tier5: 450mg test, 250mg primo, 150mg masteron, 70mg anavar, 50mg tren(weekly), 150mg npp, no hgh
Tier6: 1.4g-1.8g stuff, 6-10hgh, insulin
Tier7: double of Tier6, sarms
Tier 1, still taking over the counter medicine, still exposed to endocrine disrupting chemicals (air, water, food), many had exposure to "drugs" while they were in the womb. And possibly allergy medications, stem cells for recovery or injury.... Maybe eating beef with hormones / steroids,.... Is anyone really "natural" ??? Next Tier 2 and 3 might be the same. Some older guys need higher amounts of test to reach a high average
This tier system makes no sense lmao
Bulshit. Enhahanced almost everything works as long as you train hard, as a natural that's not true. I have been training for longer than you I have trained a little more than 10 years enhanced more than 20 years as a natural and I can tell you that being on gear absolutely makes a difference. Saying it doesn't is a lie. If it doesn't make any difference in training then why do you take it?
As a natural no way can I train like I use to. I have the foundation but without peds the muscle slowly disappears no matter what you do
Exactly
You gotta work hard either way but..... They work great!!! Even at low doses
@@Juggernaut-fg2up I'm a "natty" for life at 50 years old........ and at times it is more difficult than during my younger years....... I train 5 days a week using a Serge Nubret type training regimen, high volume and moderately heavy weights........... 50-70% of 1 RM............. I may have a segment in the year where I do some very training............
im calling bullshit as well; but all guys on gear like Pete need to act like it isn't. seen guys on gear at natty shows, carbing up on condensed milk and pizza, while my train partner was avoiding salt and sugar like the plague. done arnold's training, gained nothing, done serge nubret's nothing, gained nothing. read Brawn, made gains.... now natty with 19" arms, training twice per week.
natty bulking and enhanced bulking surely isnt same. sam was dirty bulking so hard yet low bf he had
A hyper-responder, which I am, will make INSANE gains off drugs compared to not! Olympians train because they still need an edge over those who don’t. And they have great proportions to start as well as dense natural muscles to start.
Even on trt the muscle gained is absolutely crazy, due to your higher than average free t.
I respect you bro 👏
Great video. The vast majority of people will never understand "natural", TRT / HRT, and beyond. A major portion of this conversation need to be around age and health status. A 70+ yr old male who starts in the gym for the first time and goes on TRT for the first time, Very different results than a 25 yr old beginner starting TRT or TRT + Plus, many times i find 30+ yr old guys taking TRT plus but not eating correctly, high stress, drinking alcohol,....and they look like they don't even lift.
Great video
PED’s make a world of a difference. Ofc you’re gonna have to set the stimulus for muscle to grow as well but since you’re recovery is better and your PS is elevated 24/7 you’re gonna have a much easier time to put on muscle, at least until you come close to the maximum muscle building potential on that dosage. I know people that went on to 300 mg per week just recently and boy it makes a night and day difference. There’s a reason why these substances are banned. They are very potent so ofc they work and make a huge difference. Now that being said, it’s not to take away from enhanced people’s training, they still have to train right but saying PED’s do not make a huge difference is simply not true.
there is a HUGE difference between a natural trainer and gear-training.... everyone on gear likes to act like there isn't, there is.
Great information here! Very detailed and well explained👏
That was a great video Pete thank you you answered so many questions that I had in regards to *recovery" 🗝️ a vital component for the recipe of growth. I've been training with your five-day Mass gaining program and I didn't realize that now that I'm creating a greater stimulus there's a bigger need for recovery which I just couldn't realize. Now I always knew that you need to sleep and rest but didn't realize the degree of rest that is required for grow. I am crazy for repeating the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome. this level of understanding can only occur when you've been doing this for years . My CNS is fried
A great educational content here 👏
Well don't take it to the bank because it's not all true. Anytime you're on gear it absolutely does influence your training and the results you get from it
Have you ever talked about your PED use? (If you do take them)
Of course he is on its obvious.
@@tzahi12370 yeh he may be on TRT, don’t think u can get 20 inch arms naturally unless ur a super freak of nature
@@hz1634 look at his traps! here's your sign!
@@hz1634 500 mg "TRT".
He has mentioned briefly in the odd video in the past he is on gear
Some people in the comments just don’t realise how fast of a recovery you have when using PED’s. It does matter for God’s sake. You are almost never tired you always can do more. There is a reason PED’s are forbidden in competitive sports.
And what are you taking Peter, very curious because I like your physique, it’s big but not too overly lean.
So what are you taking?
He will never tell
@@BigTvProductions Why?
@julio4771 why change the habit of his lifetime on YT. I love his videos and his advice, but the one thing that bugs me about him is his pathological avoidance of the subject as far as his own use goes. He clearly, clearly, is on something. Likely not full Olympia cycle stuff, but I'd guess at TRT+ as a bare minimum.
Half gram of test 💪💪
Not necessarily
Thank you for this Interesting video ! I can't see myself every fucking around with my hormones to be honest. I just accept what my genes, hard training and living as healthy as I can bring me. So far I like what I managed to do.
We also cannot forget about the years upon years of consistency in all areas that has to happen. Enhanced or not.
i train because i love to train, the feeling of training hard and pushing yourself everyday is almost irreplaceable. I train to look good, not look good to train. So taking stuff to me seems not the right path, because I will never compete or be an influencer, why even take stuff then lie about it to make money😅
The whole natty or not debate is so pointless. The real discussion should be GOOD vs BAD genetics. A man with bad genetics can take a full blown cycle, and still be smaller or look worse than a natty with great genetics.
Notice how it's always natty dudes with good genetics calling steroid users "cheaters" and saying that they earned all of their gains through "hard work". In reality, you were born with a significant advantage over most steroid users, and i imagine you actually probably don't train as hard as dudes with terrible genes who are desperate to make gains.
For all the guys doing U/L split, how do you manage your volume during leg trainig?
The sweet spot is between 5-8 sets per muscle group per workout, but isn't doing that for such large muscle groups too hard on the CNS? After 8 sets of quads, how can you properly train your hams? I know that the solution for most is: start one day with quads, the other with hams
But what about a front/back/shoulders&arms day? With one day where you train all your mirror muscles, and in the other you train both back and hams?
Good video with no nonsense advice! I've been training close to 50 yrs and seen it all. First you must love to train and make it a life long thing. Old school training has always been best for me. I've seen some guys who were gifted genetically. Used very little and look like Mr. Olympia, and then some who used tons of everything and looked like crap. Everyone is different, everyone can train and eat the best and get the rest in. Be yourself and try your best always.
Pete dude this is a most excellent vid man excellent info broken down perfectly for anyone to understand people need to hear this they need to watch this vid great content as always PK dude 1st class vid man rock on Pete !!!💪😃🏋♀
Thank you for making this. I am natural, and plan to be forever(no hate to those who aren’t). This is good to know and show people that whether you’re natural or enhanced, the basics and hard work still have to be applied!
TRT+1 sounds really good to me...
Not true! You can eat more and recover faster.
Truth is truth
I’m all natural, cheeseburgers and Ice cream… but my goal is to be skinny buff.
You just have to eat even more cheeseburgers and ice cream to reach your goal. Trust me.
To my knowledge, you have never talked about if you're natural or enhanced ?
I think as a fitness influencer, this is imperative for your credibility, so your followers know if a body like your's is attainable without PEDs.
cannot get no sleep
from forever
never sleep l am night walker
What do you consider a “young guy?” …. What is the age that you cut off?
Right around 15-20 mins into this video I got bored…probably because I’m not interested in PED or TRT. I’m a natural but I also have a family n work for a living. I would like a better physique, but natural is all I have time for. Sometimes I I work out harder, but most of the time I just put in what I have time for.
Good info though, but TRT, PED’s not for me.
Is Peter natural? I always asjmed so tbh.
Do you claim natty? (Very curious)
I don't know if he's ever claimed natty but I highly doubt he actually is
He won't say but I'll tell you right now that he's not natty. It's clearly seen when you know what to look for. He may not be on a cycle at this very second, but there's no way in hell he's lifetime natty.
@@SlingshotMustang what about him gives it away?
The muscles that grow more with androgens are the upper back traps and shoulders. When guys/gals have highly developed traps shoulder etc are generally enhanced due to higher amount of androgen receptors. He may not be running high doses of anything could just be trt but likely other compounds. I personally run trt and lgd during winter and ostarine to cut for spring and summer and my traps and shoulders grow much quicker than other groups.
Facts!!
Pete's straightforward PED analysis is for every lifter.
With 2 yrs on endocronologist prescribed trt I work out 5 days weekly with Pete's guidance. I enjoy full recovery, sleep/eat/look great naked....really great naked. Also, 20 yrs younger by paying attention to food macros.
I'd train 6 days a week but I adhere to 2 nonconsecutive rest days per week.
I'm sorry, but I just wouldn't feel any sense of achievement or satisfaction from cheating. I put in the hard work, not the PED's. My results are a result of my effort, not a lab.
I you aren't competing or it isn't against the competitions rules it isn't cheating.
@@david.kovac.23 you're cheating yourself.
@@neilwheel ok bro
@@david.kovac.23 of course you are. Can you honestly look in the mirror at gains that are the result of PED's and say " I did that"?
Yh definitely bro. Ronnie Coleman didnt have to work his ass off to be an 8 time Mr. Olympia. He cheated. Brilliant analysis
❤❤❤❤super
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Wow
As a natural I was ripped to the bone and trained like I was on steroids going to gym 7 days a week 6 hours a day plus wrestling training. Now enhanced I train half that. Enhanced doesn’t mean you can train forever and eat whatever. If anything I found bodybuilding much more simple without the drugs. So in a way training with drugs is harder because more variables
Did you even have a job? 6 hours a day?
Wow dude that’s actually incredible. Props to you for being able to train that King and doing wrestling training. I can’t do that I can only do about 1.5 hours in the gym 5 days and one kickboxing and wrestling lesson.
@@Ojthemighty
I was in school bro I worked part time at a GNC
@@heavymetalfitness2091 no not allowed
@@Ojthemighty
Ok lol
Says a user(you) lol
Stay Natty, my final message
Doesn’t bother me. Not interested in PED’s in any form. I would feel like i cheated .Plus health is my priority. Not ego
850th
Nobody in the history of ever believes that taking TRT automatically grows muscle without training ! Everybody in the history of ever believed that TRT will enhance the effects of training!
I get so tired of seeing people comment all the time:
"Yeah but try that as a natural!"
"What about for natural lifters"
"That workout only works if you are on gear"
"you wont recover from that if natural"
etc etc etc
They just do not want to hear that it makes virtually no difference when it comes to training. For one your CNS doesn't care if you are enhanced or natural and that's the real factor when it comes to overall recovery and quality of training long term.
Most it seems just want to use being natural as a coping mechanism or excuse to not train hard
Im natural and trained for decades natural using both high volume and high intensity in each workout and having tried near everything out there and every variable inbetween find my best results working a bro split lol. Although I will still switch to a higher frequency split from time to time just for a change before switching back
if you are that experienced can you help me on this? what to do with si joint acting up during deadlifts? i warm up my glutes always.. didnt work. had to quit deadlifts cause of it for 2 months. i already saw doctor. im talking in bodybuilding wise
@@sengunvolkan If your goal is strictly bodybuilding / aesthetics (or even strength included) Id likely give up deadlifting if its causing issues. its a heavily energy taxing excercise that isn't really needed for bodybuilding and if anything can hold you back, especially if its already giving you joint issues, i'd consider avoiding it and replacing it with another exercise/s.
In fact try and avoid any hinge movements for the Si joint (deadlift or squat variations) if having issues.
These can easily be worked around and you'll actually save more energy allowing for more weekly volume if you wished in the long term.
@@papaspaulding i have no issues with weighted back extensions. si joint acts up during negative of deadlift. i'm stubborn af like ronnie so i wont stop deadlifting i will always look for moments thinking i can do it. cause deadlift is overpowered af and nothing can replace it
Total broscience blather of nonsense
I’m also today for fact it’s a metal thing as well. I’m 40 6’4 252 and I train with two others 39 5’6 205 and 38 6’0 215 and they take TRT . But I move more weight than them . I been training since I got out the army in 2013 and man they don’t push as hard as I push . I train to look good naked for the wife and I know 252 but I’m at 24% bmi that’s great so it’s a mind set . I do no ego lighting , and I work 12 hr shifts . So I have to manage sleep , training and family life style . That’s very hard but I believe I was bless with good genes .