Poulan Pro Chainsaw - Not Running or Cutting Well

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
  • A subscriber sent me his Poulan Pro chainsaw. He lent it to his brother in law over 10 years ago and just got it back. It was in good running condition, but now it is not running or cutting very well. Lets see what the issue is and fix it.
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  • @kristenzaldivar6338
    @kristenzaldivar6338 Рік тому +122

    I was running this saw for about 2 hours at about a 30-50% duty cycle ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxfQm1wmg0ItKDLavxj1nXtQY9HP7EF504 and it did a great job. I used the lever for the built in sharpener to clear chip buildup out more than to actually sharpen the chain. It managed to cut some hardwood stumps much larger than it's size without bothering the neighbors with hours of 2 stroke noise.

  • @johnclarke6647
    @johnclarke6647 2 роки тому +100

    That’s why I never loan out my chainsaws to anyone. I will go and cut what need to be cut for them.

    • @merrymanrc
      @merrymanrc 2 роки тому +10

      I feel the same way I loan out my gas power weed eater it came back not running because he put regular gasoline not two cycle gas

    • @rodh2168
      @rodh2168 2 роки тому +32

      A friend once said he'd loan his wife before he'd loan his chainsaw.

    • @adnacraigo6590
      @adnacraigo6590 2 роки тому +3

      Amen!

    • @Rein_Ciarfella
      @Rein_Ciarfella 2 роки тому +2

      Rod H 😂👍

    • @thedude8976
      @thedude8976 2 роки тому +8

      @@rodh2168 Damn right!!

  • @Pavol-Pivka
    @Pavol-Pivka 2 роки тому +5

    The old metering membrane was not installed correctly. You also installed the new one incorrectly. First should goes the gasket then the metering membrane. Your currently installed membrane is pushing on metering lever. It cannot close the fuel valve properly. It causes engine flooding. Your chainsaw is running too rich. Just change the sequence. Gasket first. Membrane second.

  • @NY411Info
    @NY411Info 2 роки тому +2

    Lol, Watching the ending with you cutting the wood. Yeah. Underpowered junk. No revs. like the one I had for a week. They want you to spend more on the JonSered or HusqVarna branded Electrolux. Junk.

  • @kriswright1022
    @kriswright1022 2 роки тому +36

    The only suggestion I would add is on setting the high speed screw, always set it in the cut, meaning it should sound rich when out of the cut with a 4 stroking sound or burbble, then as soon as it is under load, it smooths right out. These saws are notoriously hard to maintain a tune due to disintegrating fuel lines.

    • @jeffclark2725
      @jeffclark2725 2 роки тому +2

      Agreed, been sitting that long yea, those lines work today, dissolve tomarrow along with the primer bubble

    • @artpatronforever
      @artpatronforever 2 роки тому +3

      A mixture adjustment tool should come with every saw. Better yet,
      if manufacturers simply understand differences in fuel and altitude
      and breaking in of saws absolutely requires individual tuning and
      just put standard screws of some type on carburetors, revealing
      something called common sense. Improperly tuned saws won't
      run efficiently and it isn't mysterious how to correct that issue
      does not require a master mechanic or repair shop. On vintage
      equipment the mixture screws are just conventional screws. It
      really was not progress to make mixture screws a proprietary
      design to cause people difficulty needing a special tool. You
      are right about tweaking the mixture on the saw in use by
      making small adjustments to find the sweet spot. The saw
      operator can hear and see the result of small adjustments
      to find what works best. The fuel line issue has always been
      there. There is an immersion rated fluoropolymer fuel line
      I have retrofitted on a similar Poulan, that came with a similar
      version fuel line. LP=1200 Tygon is a clear fuel immersion
      rated fuel line that has I think an ETFE teflon lining coaxially
      laminated with a jacket polymer of unknown composition,
      and the line is not as flexible and soft as usual fuel line.
      So it does not stretch and squeeze easily to pull through
      the same size opening in a hard plastic tank as the softer
      and more flexible regular Tygon yellow fuel line. LP-1200
      goes through the rubber grommet fuel tank bushings with
      no problem because the bushing stretches. But the smaller
      opening like for the purge bulb return line that goes through
      a bare hole in the hard plastic tank, I had to burnish carefully
      to a larger size to accept the larger LP-1200 line used there
      also, where the OEM Poulan used a smaller purge return line.
      I wanted just one size and type line used for both the fuel
      pickup and the purge return line so I made this a custom
      modification that just makes sense to me, to use one size
      and one type of fuel line both places. I used numbered
      drill bit shanks incrementally burnishing the opening larger
      until I could forcibly pull the taper cut end of fuel line to
      squeeze through the opening when pulled by a hemostat
      or needle nose pliers from inside the fuel tank. To do this
      upgrade on a couple of other saws I have a #2 taper pin
      reamer and precision 3/16" set collar to use as a depth
      stop for the reamer to leave a reamed opening slightly
      under 3/16" so the LP-1200 line will be a firm leak free
      squeeze fit. There is also available from Walbro a purge
      bulb that is heavier duty and longer service life made
      of a different type material that is black and I have not
      yet tried that upgrade, but that is next as a retrofit that
      should be better than new compared to the OEM purge
      bulb. Those purge bulbs do crack with age and are a
      routine replace usually done same time as fuel lines
      and carburetor rebuild. That shiny material fuel pump
      diaphragm is ethanol fuel rated. Some carb kits come
      also with the rubberized fabric diaphragm that holds
      up better in non-ethanol straight gasoline. The shiny
      material is good for either fuel, so the extra one is a
      spare for future use but better not used with ethanol
      blended fuel. I never run that blended fuel in any
      small engines because of guaranteed issues with
      corrosion and water contamination. Ethanol blended
      fuel is engineered for causing trouble. Corn is for
      feeding chickens not fueling chainsaws.

    • @jeffclark2725
      @jeffclark2725 2 роки тому

      @@artpatronforever They frown on the consumers having those adjuster tools,, Its an emissions thing, but agree the first couple of times using any of the small 2 cycle stuff , sometimes an adjustment is needed, altitude wether you are in Denver Co, or Portland Or, and fuel quality affect performance also,winter and summer has its effects to,

    • @artpatronforever
      @artpatronforever 2 роки тому +3

      @@jeffclark2725 I have 3 of these Poulan Pro chainsaws. All
      3 saws had mixtures factory set rich for the break in run.
      All 3 saws had to be gradually leaned out during the first
      10 hours. It really can't be an emissions issue when new
      saws come set rich from the factory. Emissions go down
      as the saws get broken in and the mixture leaned out. But
      if an interference is done there it causes more emissions.
      I have encountered the same scenario with a blower so
      it can't be emissions or if it is what is done is counter
      to reason. However, if government is involved then that
      would make perfect sense.

    • @brandonnolff1920
      @brandonnolff1920 2 роки тому +2

      I was gonna say the same thing

  • @jdtractorman7445
    @jdtractorman7445 2 роки тому +23

    I have the same exact saw. The Poulan Pro brand gets made fun of because it's not one of those ridiculously expensive chain saws. For what it is, it works perfectly fine. It's intended for homeowners, not people that are lumberjacks. Mine has been perfect, owned it for about 20 years now and it works fine.

    • @stitchthisditchthat259
      @stitchthisditchthat259 Рік тому +1

      Has saved me a ton of money in the backyard , feels good to save a buck

    • @MrMultitool
      @MrMultitool 2 місяці тому +1

      I bought one of these about 25 years ago and it has NEVER ran for long. It stayed in the shop more than it should have. I just bought an electric saw from H F and it will do all I need. I am glad that You've had good luck from yours.

    • @ManMountainMetals
      @ManMountainMetals Місяць тому +1

      ​@@MrMultitool😂 I also have given up and purchased a HF electric saw. It has started every time 😂

  • @raouliii
    @raouliii 2 роки тому +22

    As others have stated, the metering side gasket goes against the body with the diaphragm against the cover. @ 23:30 Been there, done that. Irregular start and run was the result.

    • @jameshedrick605
      @jameshedrick605 2 роки тому +5

      I've done that before. The metering diaphragm and the pump diaphragm. I was getting aggravated with then realized that I had the diaphragms on backwards

    • @bennyblanko3
      @bennyblanko3 Рік тому +1

      Well, somebody saw it! Good job ... was wondering if this was some kind of different saw ...

    • @philliphall5198
      @philliphall5198 5 місяців тому

      I find this mistake alot and it’s a easy fix, but I tell them what they did wrong 😊

  • @benkanobe7500
    @benkanobe7500 Рік тому +20

    To avoid kickbacks, always have the chain at full speed before making contact with the log. It also keeps chips from clogging the drive sprocket.

  • @CSkwirl
    @CSkwirl 2 роки тому +13

    Hi James, still watching this video however unless that carb is different then the Metering diaphragm doesn't go below the gasket it goes above, the pump diaphragm goes below the gasket they're different. On all the saws I've fixed it's that way or the metering doesn't work right.
    If what i just looked up is correct that's a zama w26 carb, look up the parts diagram for that you'll see the gasket goes against the carb body then the diaphragm. Can't post a link as YT will delete it
    Edit, Zama official UA-cam channel also has a rebuild video (different carb) but also states this, gasket first on metering side

    • @artpatronforever
      @artpatronforever 2 роки тому +1

      You are correct. I also checked Zama parts diagram for this carb,
      and watched the Zama video, and have the Zama service manual,
      3 in agreement, the gasket goes first against the carburetor body,
      then the metering diaphragm with the metal disc side also towards
      the carburetor body and then the cover. That gasket is also a shim
      thickness that positions the metering diaphragm at correct height
      for its metering function to occur as designed.

    • @CSkwirl
      @CSkwirl 2 роки тому

      @@artpatronforever Correct, otherwise the metal disc will press on the lever when it's not running and will flood the saw, will also run rich in operation. You can tune around this but it's not ideal. I bought a Husqvarna 365 couple of years ago, guy sold it cheap because it "would never run right", basically couldn't even start it cold because it was flooding. Luckily it's easy on that saw and only need one screwdriver so i dismantled the carb on the spot and sure enough someone had done this exact thing, so i fixed it, started right up. I think he was a little sad he was selling it now but too late

    • @artpatronforever
      @artpatronforever 2 роки тому

      @@CSkwirl I have not looked closely to tell, but it may
      be possible to replace a metering diaphragm without removing
      the carburetor for access. Generally it is only a brittle from age
      metering diaphragm that will make a saw be wandering at idle,
      and other stuff on the carb is good. It could be a low complexity
      quick fix for idle issues to just replace the metering diaphragm.

  • @TheGreasyShopRag
    @TheGreasyShopRag 2 роки тому +9

    Its a tough gig making videos for the masses to scrutinize only to have the armchair mechanics tell you what you did wrong. I enjoyed YOUR video.

  • @Nous3rnam3haha
    @Nous3rnam3haha Рік тому +18

    I am happy and glad to see I am not the only one who stops and cleans the grime from chain oil and wood chips when servicing a chain saw. I feel like it was an OCD but always felt it's necessary. Thank you for this awesome instructional video. You are easy to understand and always clear to the point. Keep up the great work!

  • @johnclarke6647
    @johnclarke6647 2 роки тому +5

    You might want to check an IPL but I think you reversed the diaphragm and gasket on the metering side of the carb. The gasket goes on first and then the diaphragm, just the opposite of the pump side.

  • @tiredoldmechanic1791
    @tiredoldmechanic1791 2 роки тому +13

    I was always a guy who wanted to repair my things. I found a carburetor kit for a chainsaw for $12. A replacement carburetor with a length of fuel line, two primer bulbs, an air filter and a spark plug was $15. If I added a can of carburetor cleaner to the carb kit, it exceeded the price of the carburetor, not even including labor. I bought the carburetor and it solved the problem. I was hesitant about the odd brand spark plug but I never had a problem with it. Ever since then, I check to see what a carburetor costs first and I've replaced them on several two stroke engines and 2 four stroke engines with great success.

    • @JOEZEP54
      @JOEZEP54 Місяць тому +1

      Same here.

  • @natehb
    @natehb 2 роки тому +8

    It seemed like the high speed needed to be a bit higher.

  • @larrysmall3521
    @larrysmall3521 2 роки тому +55

    One other thing to check is the muffler. There is a spark arrestor screen that can clog up after extended use.
    Burning the carbon build up off with a propane torch can make a big difference

    • @somerandomguy3868
      @somerandomguy3868 2 роки тому +1

      I was thinking the same thing, first thing I check, after fresh fuel and purge the carb

    • @General-Eclectic
      @General-Eclectic 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah. First thing I thought of. They can get crudded up surprisingly quickly especially when it's running rich to begin with.

    • @jackpatteeuw9244
      @jackpatteeuw9244 2 роки тому +4

      I think first, I would check that the air cleaner is not clogged, then check the spark arrestor screen. While that is out, use a flashlight to check the piston for any scoring. If it is scored, engine is dead.
      Also, keep in mind, that these carbs are very sensitive to vacuum leaks. Old fuel lines with cracks or pin holes must be replaced !

    • @Melicoy
      @Melicoy 2 роки тому

      Subscribe please !

    • @veronprehay1002
      @veronprehay1002 Рік тому +1

      Ok thanks for the advice I’ll try

  • @nickflopper
    @nickflopper 2 роки тому +4

    Metering diaphragm is supposed to be on top gasket.

    • @artpatronforever
      @artpatronforever 2 роки тому

      Yes that is a reassembly error requiring a do over. Nothing like happy news.

  • @watermanone7567
    @watermanone7567 2 роки тому +45

    Jim: Great job as usual. A few suggestions, Pull the spark arrestor out and burn it off if it has lots of carbon. Sometimes the carb can't be adjusted if the arrestor is plugged. Also run the saw wide open and adjust the high speed jet to it fastest RPM and then turn it richer until the RPM's slow some. This will save it from running lean and burning the piston. Try to file down the chain guide depth gage in front of each tooth, this will allow an old chain to cut properly. Should be done every time the chain is sharpened. Thanks for an excellent video.

    • @jcondon1
      @jcondon1  2 роки тому +5

      Thanks for the tips.

    • @hiscifi2986
      @hiscifi2986 Рік тому +2

      Yes I agree, he never did the fast running jet. To set the slow running, you can tune the jet for the fastest idle chain speed, then add a bit of richness.. Then slow the throttle stop, so that the chain just stops moving. That old chain was a safety chain, so maybe the safety ramps would also need to be ground down as well as the rakers.

  • @johnclarke6647
    @johnclarke6647 2 роки тому +5

    Anytime the adjustments to a carb act screwy, it needs to be cleaned and rebuilt. If it still acts screwy it needs to be replaced.

  • @loucinci3922
    @loucinci3922 2 роки тому +10

    Awesome. My Craftsman 14" has been sitting for years. Last time it ran, it lacked power. It's time to dig into it again. Thanks for the motivation.

  • @Rein_Ciarfella
    @Rein_Ciarfella 2 роки тому +7

    James, I’m hoping you didn’t ship that saw back before reading the comments! I was hoping to see a Sticky informing us you took the carb off again, reversed the order of the metering diaphragm and its gasket and retuned. I agree with others about cleaning the spark arrestor and replacing the fuel lines. If the fuel lines are dark in color I’d automatically replace those and the purge bulb because it wouldn’t be long before they’re ready to go. I also would have removed the recoil and cleaned under there because that’s another place that can get full of debris, affecting cooling airflow. Also agree with filing down the depth gauges. That’s what affected your ability to cut, more than anything else. Running a chain like that will do more to overheat and destroy an engine than almost anything else. One other tip - when tensioning the chain it’s easier to just tip the saw forward and touch the end of the bar to the table to elevate the bar rather than lifting it up with your fingers. 👍

    • @MrXcrt
      @MrXcrt Рік тому +1

      Great points explained for us novices to the chainsaw world

  • @robertsimpson7113
    @robertsimpson7113 2 роки тому +2

    That saw is GUTLESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Bob_Adkins
    @Bob_Adkins 2 роки тому +5

    I have 2 Poulans (POlan, not poo-lin), and they run great. They come from the factory set a little lean, so I richen them up just a tad. Once set, they start and run just great. What usually happens is people leave gas in the carb for years, and it leaves a messy goo in the bowl and prevents sufficient fuel from passing. Methanol fuel makes it worse. Fuel injector cleaner can sometimes make it run great without further work, depending on the crud deposits which are sometimes insoluble. When the bar wears out, get a new Oregon and a better chain too.

  • @johndoe43
    @johndoe43 2 роки тому +3

    Good job and good video. Some of the people commenting just have to cry about the smallest things. I have a friend that's real bad about it. You can solve the biggest problem but you tied your shoes wrong.

  • @crazzywolfie
    @crazzywolfie 2 роки тому +1

    i am surprised someone would pay to have one of these service. i guess it makes good content for youtube but i can go to princess auto and buy a refurbished saw just like it for $150. these things are rarely worth doing much with because they are almost cheaper to replace than to buy parts. my neighbor had one that needed $100 in parts. i ended up lucking out and finding a parts saw free. the funny part was the parts saw actually ran and had 150psi compression never thought to check a saw i got for free till after i pulled the needed parts off it.

  • @johnclarke6647
    @johnclarke6647 2 роки тому +4

    Correct chain tension - snug it up to the bottom of the bar, lift up the end of the bar and re-snug it to the bottom of the bar and tighten the bar nuts while you continue to hold it up on your saw, tighten the tool less adjuster. I want about a 1/4” gap between the top of the bar when I lift the chain up at its midpoint of the bar and it snaps back to the bar when I let go of it. I tighten all chains on all saws the same.

  • @artpatronforever
    @artpatronforever 2 роки тому +5

    James, you need to do a follow up epilogue on the metering diaphragm issue
    because of the misplaced gasket / shim assembly error. That saw isn't right
    until that gasket placement error gets attention.

  • @johnclarke6647
    @johnclarke6647 2 роки тому +1

    On a non running saw I always dump all the fuel out of it and rinse out the tank with fresh fuel before refilling it. Putting fresh fuel with bad fuel does nothing but make both fuels, bad fuels.

    • @JohnSmith-yv6eq
      @JohnSmith-yv6eq 2 роки тому

      How do you deal with replacement of the clunk filters in both the gas tank and the oil tank?

    • @johnclarke6647
      @johnclarke6647 2 роки тому

      @@JohnSmith-yv6eq replace ‘em

  • @artpatronforever
    @artpatronforever 2 роки тому +3

    NGK plugs are good plugs, NGK makes OEM plugs for Poulan - Husqvarna

  • @KaldekBoch
    @KaldekBoch 2 роки тому +4

    This is why I love the notification bell. :)

    • @a__133
      @a__133 2 роки тому

      Me too 🖖

  • @VintageEngineRepairs
    @VintageEngineRepairs 2 роки тому +7

    Well done James. Although they’re a cheapie, they serve a purpose and you got it running well. The owner will be happy I’m sure.

    • @philliphall5198
      @philliphall5198 Рік тому +1

      I have fixed 9 last week and there very popular here because of TSC, just ordered 20 more carb kits

  • @TheBudliner
    @TheBudliner 2 роки тому +2

    Cleaning these with compressed air works good, and that fuel line is brittle. The trick with the choke is you pull with choke on till it berps a little start, then choke off and should start right up.

  • @justinpyne968
    @justinpyne968 2 роки тому +1

    hi you should have the gasket first then the diafram i work for Stihl and they are the same system!!

  • @jerrysoutherland662
    @jerrysoutherland662 2 роки тому +2

    James the metering diaphragm on backwards the gasket goes first then the diaphragm and then the cover.

  • @daivdash
    @daivdash 3 місяці тому +1

    the chain did need replaced but if you look at it, the rakes were above the tooth level. Filing the rakes are an important step to sharpening a chain

  • @jolujo5842
    @jolujo5842 2 роки тому +1

    Poulan has ALWAYS made crappy saws!
    For the last 40 years + their quality has remain at the bottom of the list.

  • @repairrestoreresell2026
    @repairrestoreresell2026 2 роки тому +2

    Nice transition from keep poulin, it might start before your arm falls off, to a nice running saw. Best of Luck..............

  • @AntonioClaudioMichael
    @AntonioClaudioMichael 2 роки тому +2

    Wow 10 year loan Holly Molly I borrow something for a month and I'm getting screamed at were is my tools lol very generous to let them use it for 10 years @James Condon

  • @romjone4801
    @romjone4801 2 роки тому +1

    James,
    I need to order parts for my 3500 briggs and stratton generator. Can you send me a link, phone number, etc?

  • @johnclarke6647
    @johnclarke6647 2 роки тому +2

    I put an orange mark on my splined adjusting tool, so I can count the turns. I mark my Stihl adjusting screwdrivers with a mark of black paint, so I can count the turns on it when adjusting carbs with slotted adjustment jets. My rule of thumb is 1.5T out on smaller carbs and 1.0T on bigger HD carbs used on my big saws and tune from there.

  • @steveb3885
    @steveb3885 2 роки тому +1

    even when done, it's still not hitting top RPM. more than likely the muffler is clogging up with carbon or the top end is chewed up.
    Anyone notice at 40:30 that the bar is loose?

  • @Ecksterphono
    @Ecksterphono 8 місяців тому +1

    Great video. I see it still runs a tad rough and takes a bit more time cutting through logs or wood. Sometimes other symptomatic issues that seem like the carburetor aren't the issue. A blocked or caked spark arrestor or carbon fouled muffler can cause too much backpressure sending exhaust through the blow down of the transfer ports robbing the saw of its full potential power. During a tuneup sometimes these mufflers can be taken partially apart and cleaned to prevent too much back pressure. I would suggest during a carb rebuild, sparkplug and air filter change, clean the exhaust system as well clean or replace the spark arrestor if possible. This will prevent future idle stalls especially ramping down from high speed back to idle. Exhaust tuning is also very important, because one doesn't want backfire as well.

  • @rancelynch6514
    @rancelynch6514 2 роки тому +7

    Rance here. That was another good video and it really shows the way it goes when fixing up a chain saw. Nothing is easy you always spend more time than you thought it would take. Thanks for sharing your time and expertise with us!

  • @richardgordon245
    @richardgordon245 11 місяців тому +1

    These videos remind me of Chris Fixx videos when you really can't see. Who you are.

  • @thisnthat3530
    @thisnthat3530 2 роки тому +2

    That old chain cut as well as my new one did when I accidentally installed it backwards.

  • @RobertKohut
    @RobertKohut 2 роки тому +14

    Too funny. "Hey can I borrow your saw?" Brings it back 10 years later, broken, and says "Here's your saw back."... LOL

    • @lonnieblackwell5107
      @lonnieblackwell5107 Рік тому +1

      Typical when something borrowed is finally returned!

    • @josiah8994
      @josiah8994 6 місяців тому +1

      😂Hey Rob Can I borrow your chainsaw?

    • @digschopper9321
      @digschopper9321 Місяць тому

      It came back... Mine dont. I never lend out anything now.

  • @jcadult101
    @jcadult101 2 роки тому +5

    Great video! I don't know if you've covered before, but I remember my surprise at discovering that little hole at the front of the bar is for greasing the front idler. There's even a special grease gun for doing so. Maybe something for a future chain saw maintenance video..

  • @jjparody8257
    @jjparody8257 2 роки тому +2

    I worked on a Poulan Pro like that recently. Tellingly, it had shipped with a Husqvarna labeled spark plug. Husky bought Poulan over a decade ago so perhaps more & more, the Pro's are becoming "yellow" Huskies. I tested the saw after I worked on it and was impressed by its performance. Longevity? Don't know. But a Husky 20" Rancher is about $500 vs $250 for the Pro.

  • @richardbaker3621
    @richardbaker3621 2 роки тому +4

    When I saw you running the saw without top cover my first thought was "don't do It". A couple years ago I was working on my old Poulan after a carb rebuild. It was a warm day and I keep trying to make it run better. Finally it started to lock up. Of course I ran it too long and over heated the engine. I didn't realize that even on no load condition the engine would overheat without the cooling shroud. Wish I had seen your video first!

  • @larrycosby2010
    @larrycosby2010 2 роки тому +1

    James, I noticed the Torch brand spark plug caught your attention. I just ran across one of. Those on a Bighorn ATV.

  • @gyorgyhorvath2718
    @gyorgyhorvath2718 2 роки тому +5

    Question! Are you sure that the diaphragm and the gasket goes like this, not the other way around? First gask and diaph? Metering side.Thx.

    • @edbayotlang5300
      @edbayotlang5300 2 роки тому

      Agree

    • @jcondon1
      @jcondon1  2 роки тому

      Would not be the first time I put that gasket on wrong.

  • @toxin911
    @toxin911 2 роки тому +5

    great video as always...just a note, ive gone thru dozens of chain saws in my time and to me it didnt sound like you were going a high enough top end speed there

    • @jcondon1
      @jcondon1  2 роки тому +1

      I tend to run them a little rich. I think this one was running close to 11,000 rpm.

    • @VintageEngineRepairs
      @VintageEngineRepairs 2 роки тому

      Yep, I agree with James, these cheap saws just don’t run like the better quality ones. Running them on the rich side and thus slower makes them last a bit longer (being relative as these things are just cheapie throwaway saws).

    • @jimw6991
      @jimw6991 8 місяців тому

      Hi James, watched two of your chainsaw videos. If you are cutting WOT sounds like your hs jet adjustment could be better. Some experts say ​out of the wood setting about a quarter rich from point of max speed gives the "four strokin". You cut a log WOT without changing get it runs just right, smooth lots of torque , no overspeed. If you are in wood and getting four stroking noise go slightly leaner.
      Thoughts?
      @jcondon1

  • @tedheierman1181
    @tedheierman1181 2 роки тому +1

    That old chain was really due to be replaced! It had be resharpened numerous times to look like that.

  • @hobtink
    @hobtink 2 роки тому +1

    Looks like the takers are too tall and preventing the freshly sharpened blade from cutting.

    • @hobtink
      @hobtink 2 роки тому +1

      Rakers not takers. LOL. PREDICTIVE text or operator error more likely.

  • @TheBudliner
    @TheBudliner 2 роки тому +1

    Chain is on backwards it looks like Santa’s sleigh small part first

  • @michaelbacile8439
    @michaelbacile8439 Рік тому +3

    Mine is doing the same thing… I’ve spent hours and hours trying to get it to its former glory. Everyone talks down about poulon but I’ve really enjoyed mine, just wish I was more competent on how to maintain and tune it

    • @1boatsailor
      @1boatsailor 5 місяців тому +1

      Poulan is now owned by Husky, better quality

    • @philliphall5198
      @philliphall5198 5 місяців тому +1

      There good saws and really air filter and proper type of fuel with no corn crap with red armor oil is the way to go

  • @larrycleeton
    @larrycleeton 2 роки тому +1

    I loan out the Poulan junk. I don't loan out my Echo and Stihl saws.

  • @haneyoakie14
    @haneyoakie14 2 роки тому +5

    Running as good as possible and cutting the same way. Up to max possible levels, the standard we expected from you James. Good content, I learned a few things.

  • @user-Sleepy
    @user-Sleepy 2 роки тому +1

    I’m sure many have ask, and I did look in a few descriptions as well as your about pages, but what do you do with all these generators (etc) you work on?

  • @TomzTrainzandAccessories
    @TomzTrainzandAccessories 2 роки тому +7

    Outstanding video James! Great teaching on the carburetor rebuild. Another thing to check on the chain are the depth gauge or rakers. They need to be filed down along with the teeth so the teeth can chip away at the wood and not ride along the top of the wood if the rakers aren’t filed as well when sharpening a saw chain.

  • @kaboom4679
    @kaboom4679 2 роки тому +2

    Funny how so many chainsaw repair tales start with " I len't it to ..." .
    I stopped lending tools a very long time ago , because " lend " , generally means either
    " give it to me "
    or
    " let me do the Samsonite luggage test on it " .

  • @donaldelrod9172
    @donaldelrod9172 2 роки тому +1

    what did you do about the chain oiler? makes a big difference on cutting ability

  • @alaskanfrogman
    @alaskanfrogman 5 місяців тому +1

    I noticed that most people who use chainsaws these days don't have a full or proper understanding of how to sharpen chainsaws correctly. I saw you work on other chainsaws previously and watched how you sharpened the chains. You like using those electric chain sharpeners. They do work, yes. But I saw that you have always and consistently missed one of the most important steps in properly sharpening a chainsaw. You completely negated and ignored the raker teeth in front of the chainsaw tooth. You can have the sharpest chainsaw teeth in the world. But if the teeth cannot adequately connect and contact the wood it's supposed to cut, it won't work. In addition to filing the teeth back, you also need to take a 6", or an 8" bastard flat file and file the raker teeth down. The tips of the rakers needs to be just below the cutting edge of the chain's teeth, or it won't cut.
    I've seen people who knows how to cut wood with a chainsaw, end up getting frustrated because their chains don't cut well even after filing and sharpening. Not addressing the raker teeth is always the primary reason and cause of chain failure.
    The purpose of the raker is multi-fold. First, it ads the correct posture to the teeth as it contacts the wood. Second, it provides guidance for the chain and blade as it bites into wood during cutting. And third, they are called "rakers" for a specific reason. As a chainsaw cuts wood, the raker teeth "Rakes the sawdust and chips" out of the way so that the teeth and the blade do not become clogged and jammed in the logs during cutting.
    Filing and sharpening the teeth and filing down the rakers maintains the proper orientation and balanced system of a chainsaw chain for cutting. A properly sharpened and balanced chainsaw tooth set and rakers are key elements in cutting efficiency and safety.
    I'd like to think I have a good understanding of what I'm saying because after all, I grew up learning and knowing how to use chainsaws and have had years, decades of experience with how they work. But to clarify what I said, here is a link that describes how the cutting tooth and raker system works on a chainsaw's chain. Hope you don't mind, and hope this helps.
    When it comes to small engine repair you really know your stuff. But you need to understand just a little bit more about chainsaws and the cutting chains they use. And incidentally, the raker is also called the "Depth Gauge," because it determines the cutting depth of the teeth. It must be properly maintained and filed to the correct height to match the teeth after sharpening.
    Here's the link about Chainsaw Cutting Chains: www.treetec.net.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Operate-and-Maintain-Chainsaws-Treetec-pre-course-reading_0720.pdf

  • @imysteryman
    @imysteryman 2 роки тому +1

    If I had to cut firewood with a pouland saw I would quit burning firewood

  • @brianhind6149
    @brianhind6149 2 роки тому +1

    Husqvarna, Jonsered, or Stihl, in no particular order. No one who uses a chainsaw uses virtually only one or two other brands ...(Echo) . I have had a few of these "big box store" cheapies, & I can't believe how bad they are.

    • @JohnSmith-yv6eq
      @JohnSmith-yv6eq 2 роки тому

      Have you tried a Chinese Stihl clone? (The Chihl)
      Especially in the larger sizes they work well.....

  • @PilotMcbride
    @PilotMcbride 2 роки тому +3

    With that old chain, we use our chains until a chisel breaks off (less than 1/8”), lol. That old chain should have many more sharpenings left. Just from looking at it, the rakers looked as through they’d never been filed, hence very poor cutting performance.
    Keep the videos coming, they’re full of useful info.
    Thanks for posting
    Cheers.

    • @rwest0782
      @rwest0782 7 місяців тому +1

      Yepper, I caught that

  • @philliphall5198
    @philliphall5198 Рік тому +1

    I AllWAYS replace the rubber air boot on every one I fix

  • @L-Noble.YT_Hi.Res-Soundminds
    @L-Noble.YT_Hi.Res-Soundminds 9 місяців тому +1

    I recently graduated from the pulling pro university when latter I realized the fuel lines had rotted away 😂👍🏼.

  • @d.d.5633
    @d.d.5633 2 роки тому +2

    “It may not actually BE one.” 🤣

  • @Robsenginerepairs
    @Robsenginerepairs 2 роки тому +2

    Hi James lovely saw I've recently repaired one on my own channel was a freebie nice job buddy

  • @denissaintchaille5305
    @denissaintchaille5305 2 роки тому +1

    Bonjours , au ralenti , la chaine ne dois pas tournée d'un pouce , la se n'est pas le ca , peut mieux faire , bonne continuation .

  • @aprilsteel9466
    @aprilsteel9466 2 роки тому +1

    You don't seem to know how to use a chainsaw properly. It has or should have 2 or 3 sharp pins that you push into the log and lever against . It will take twice as long otherwise. Also I have seen absolutely NO damage done by alcohol fuels in these carbys and you can buy a new replacement carby for $25

    • @JohnSmith-yv6eq
      @JohnSmith-yv6eq 2 роки тому

      Some saws do not have the spikes.
      But if you need to lever the saw to pivot around the spikes to "make it cut" ....
      you have a dull chain.....

  • @johnclarke6647
    @johnclarke6647 2 роки тому +2

    Gnaw, gnaw, gnaw - sharpen that butter chain. The rakers have probably never been adjusted.

  • @jameschainey2343
    @jameschainey2343 2 роки тому +2

    What do you think about the pre mixed 🤔 fuel from the store.

    • @jackpatteeuw9244
      @jackpatteeuw9244 2 роки тому

      Watch this ua-cam.com/video/UDuKE26G2mo/v-deo.html

    • @artpatronforever
      @artpatronforever 2 роки тому +2

      Save your money. Use Sunoco non ethanol or other non ethanol
      gasoline with any modern 2 cycle oil rated for 50 to 1 or better.

  • @jeremyduncan8030
    @jeremyduncan8030 Рік тому +1

    The only thing I loan out is advice, not chainsaws.

  • @johnwaller2333
    @johnwaller2333 Рік тому +4

    You are the small engine Guru when it comes to repairs 😊

  • @michaeltarasenkoop2389
    @michaeltarasenkoop2389 2 роки тому +1

    I lent my chain saw out. And it came back in no run condition ! He put oil in gas tank why don’t manufacturers label the gas caps and oil caps instead of red for gas and black for oil in most cases ! For people that don’t use chain saws or other equipment in most cases !

    • @JohnSmith-yv6eq
      @JohnSmith-yv6eq 2 роки тому

      Would you lend out your wife???
      You needed to ensure your friend wasn't going to kill himself or the saw...
      good time to be a friend and you do the chainsawing with him as helper?
      Did he even offer to pay for the bits to fix it?

  • @rayshutsa6690
    @rayshutsa6690 2 роки тому +3

    I am glad you got the chainsaw is back up and running. The one problem with lending your tools out is people sometmes don't care for it like you do or they lend it out to someone else. Great video enjoy your channel and content. ❤🇨🇦

  • @brianhind6149
    @brianhind6149 2 роки тому +1

    Correction to my first post. "ANYONE who uses a chainsaw", not "no one"...sorry.

    • @artpatronforever
      @artpatronforever 2 роки тому +1

      Don't let no stump poke no hole in the bottom of this here boat or
      the grammar trolls will get you.

  • @leftitbythecurb8350
    @leftitbythecurb8350 2 роки тому +1

    always clean out the shit you're about to take appart.

  • @vmaxride06
    @vmaxride06 2 роки тому +2

    James, another video that is cut above the rest (Could not resist) Carry on Professor :) Enjoyed as always

  • @valqueenofValhalla
    @valqueenofValhalla 2 роки тому +1

    Oh idle is high to chain not supposed to spin easy fix

  • @gregorypiercesr.794
    @gregorypiercesr.794 2 роки тому +4

    really great video! Your thorough attack of a piece of equipment is far above the average individual and don't ever stop because im going to get my grandson involved. 😉😉!

  • @aw738
    @aw738 2 роки тому +1

    Along with the muffler check the high speed rpm. It doesn't sound like it's running fast enough in those last cuts.

  • @AntonioClaudioMichael
    @AntonioClaudioMichael 2 роки тому +1

    It's cutting like a knife through butter now with the new Oregon chain @James Condon

  • @wildefox1478
    @wildefox1478 2 роки тому +6

    Excellent work as always James, the carburetor diaphragms in 2 cycle carburetors seems to be the most common problem on non-running engines, ethanol fuel just wreaks havoc on the diaphragms which is why I run ethanol free canned fuel in my 2 cycle equipment.

    • @davidteitelman3890
      @davidteitelman3890 Рік тому +1

      Ethanol is bad for car engines too! & it really doesn't help reduce carb emissions ... because as it ruins the engine ... causing it to run improperly ... also causes it to spew more emissions ! 🤔

    • @coriscotupi
      @coriscotupi 11 місяців тому

      I have a gasoline-powered radio control model helicopter and because of the ethanol problem and not having canned fuel where I live, I reverted to using exclusively aviation gasoline (Avgas) in the model. It's the low-lead variety, no problems after some 16 years flying.

  • @jameshedrick605
    @jameshedrick605 2 роки тому +1

    I have 3 saws just like that. They all run great except for one has bad crank bearings. I also clean out the groove in the bar every day or 2 to keep the oil holes from getting clogged and someone correct me if i'm wrong I think it has a hole on each side on the tip of the bar to grease the sprocket bearing

  • @NY411Info
    @NY411Info 2 роки тому +1

    The Poulan Pro/ Weed Eater/ Husqvarna/Electrolux that I owned was a dog. It was similar to this saw. I had to return it and get a Echo which had some serious Rippems as Ave would say. The Poulan just didn't turn out the revs. Consumer grade Echo seems to wind out well.

  • @robertmailhos8159
    @robertmailhos8159 2 роки тому +2

    Well at least you are doing what most small engine repair shops have no interest in doing they will say get rid of that saw

    • @jcondon1
      @jcondon1  2 роки тому +1

      That’s probably why I ended up with it.

    • @robertmailhos8159
      @robertmailhos8159 2 роки тому

      @@jcondon1 that is so true at least you have it fixed for the customer 👍

  • @llvines7715
    @llvines7715 2 роки тому +4

    Great video James! My experience with the carbs on Poulan saws is they sometimes can be rebuilt and be tunable, however, sometimes the carb just needs to be replaced. I’m also wondering if the ultrasonic cleaner is the difference. I don’t have one so I’ve only cleaned carbs with carb cleaner and compressed air.

    • @thomasszilagyi7445
      @thomasszilagyi7445 2 роки тому +3

      Consider a parts cleaner dip. Like Berryman Chem-Dip or Gunk Pail with basket. They are a liquid cleaner in one gallon paint cans with a basket, and about $40. Not at the level of a carb ultrasonic, but I have the Berryman Dip. It does a great job cleaning the carbs I put in it.

    • @philliphall5198
      @philliphall5198 Рік тому

      I use ultra sonic cleaner and have had no problems with kits at all
      Best 300 I ever spent

    • @philliphall5198
      @philliphall5198 Рік тому

      I love mine and use it for a lot of things besides carb cleaning

    • @philliphall5198
      @philliphall5198 11 місяців тому

      I ultra sonic clean carbs and some times twice
      Have very good luck with just dawn and water

  • @jameschainey2343
    @jameschainey2343 2 роки тому +1

    How 🤔 ❓️ does that RPM device work, what is it measuring?

  • @timfogle7337
    @timfogle7337 2 роки тому +1

    Still a little rich on the high speed screw bud greT vids though👍👍👍

    • @jcondon1
      @jcondon1  2 роки тому +1

      Yes, prefer to run it a little on the rich side. I did lean it out a bit before sending it back to the owner.

  • @johnclarke6647
    @johnclarke6647 2 роки тому +1

    Carb kits for the Poulan are pretty common and cheap. I keep several of their kits in my parts box K10-WAT or K20-WAT. They atre used on lots of two cycle engines. I keep them and K10-HD and K20-HD Walbro carb kits in my parts box. I don’t use the Chinese kits. I try to use Walbro and ZAMA parts. I keep several ZAMA C1Q kits in my parts box. I also have the big W and Z gages to check the lifter height. I set them slightly below the setting on these gages, one RCH below if you know this measurement detail.

  • @100vg
    @100vg Рік тому +3

    I fell asleep watching last night so I gave it another shot. Excellent work and explanations, James. I've been watching Poulan Pro chainsaw videos and 2-stroke carb and engine videos for a while now. I appreciate the teardown, carb rebuild, reassembly, fuel/air adjustments and finale with all the details in between. I found a great descriptive tutorial about 2-stroke small engines which gave a full explanation of how they work, including carburetion, air and fuel flow, compression, firing and exhaust, how the Low and High mixtures work together, how and why, fuel/air adjustments and the whole shebang. Your video tied it all together in a rebuild and adjustment procedure. I bought an inductive Tach/Hour Meter and have the Idle and Full Throttle speeds now, so I can set my new Poulan Pro PR5020 to perfection now, and be able to adjust it for the various working conditions, like elevation (the first thing to do), then changing conditions like hot and cold weather, humidity, and all of that. Thank you!

  • @harrisonkatzz7090
    @harrisonkatzz7090 Рік тому +1

    Good show .I watched the carb assembly and I finally got it . Clean the groove in bar with a blade and file off rollover on bar invert bar sharpen well including rackers .Good as new no .But if the chlps are the size of the cutters the best you can get.

  • @bobbaurhyte8281
    @bobbaurhyte8281 2 роки тому +1

    Did you ever try just closing the idle or high speed screws all the way down to maybe clear any dirt out then readjust. This has worked for me in the past and saves carb removal and tear down.

  • @ehguy3628
    @ehguy3628 2 роки тому +3

    Nice work, if enough people have not already said so, you've got to get that engine up higher in the rpm range. Good Job.

  • @MrTonyPiscatelle
    @MrTonyPiscatelle 2 роки тому +1

    A lot better than when you got it. I bought a new Poulan chain saw in the early 80's when they were green in color. The absolute worst chain saw I have ever used. Might as well have used it like an axe it possibly would have cut better lol.

  • @cidercreekranch
    @cidercreekranch Рік тому +2

    Interesting. I have the Craftsman model # 358.350991 and is nearly identical to the Poulan saw and it's exhibiting similar behavior . You've given a new avenue to explore. Thanks!

    • @JOEZEP54
      @JOEZEP54 Рік тому

      I have worked on both and videoed it, they are identical.
      Stay safe, Joe Z

    • @markeasterwood1187
      @markeasterwood1187 Рік тому

      Craftsman saws are rebranded Poulans.

  • @steverogers2551
    @steverogers2551 2 роки тому +3

    Awesome video and just to let you know the saw is performing perfectly, thanks Jim, keep up with the great videos!

  • @tomburdett6639
    @tomburdett6639 2 роки тому +2

    👍👍👍😁