Some shounen manga, like One Piece, have repeating arcs structures: the main characters go to another island, meet the inhabitants and learn about the culture, get in a fight with the big bad of the arc, usually there is some kind of ticking clock to add tension to the fight and then they have recovery period before they leave the island. Any tips for avoiding arc repeating, and by that i mean having same story structure without repeating same plot points in a next or another arc. Readers can easily point out similarities in two arcs, like Bleach has the whole thing where people compare Hueco Mundo and Soul Society arcs due to their similarities and many think its bad that they are similar. So, how to make repeating arc structure without its repetitiveness becoming detriment to the readers enjoyment? I don't count episodic manga, like Jojo from part 3 onward, where its mainly "Enemy Stand of the Week", but if you have tips for episodic "villain of the week" style manga story, I'm interested.
Ngl the sketch style you have really helps me draw faster. The whole bigger brush for the outline of the body, leaving me to draw out the rest is extremely helpful and lets you not worry so much about the details in the presketch
This is EXACTLY what I need!! Every month its the same cycle. Im always asking for extensions on my manga deadlines and have people always waiting to read. It sucks that it takes me so long. But with all the other work I have to do I dont know how else to move. Hopefully this'll help. Thanks in advance 🙏🏾 Realized UA-cam removed the link I sent the guy who responded. My series is called “INFINIUM’ for those interested.
@@ImRyhsinzs I only just made a twitter recently and I promoted it. Im plan on starting advertising after chapter 05 is out. Im more focused on getting the chapters completed right now
Imma be brutally honest to every artist but to do this u do need extreme understanding of the fundamentals if you’re gonna be as rough as whyt is, don’t get me wrong, the video is good but also be realistic and think how much experience whyt has and plan ur roughs accordingly to what u need before u move onto lineart
@K L Which is funnier given he said it himself in interviews multiple times : "I draw more than you." meaning his own doodles etc are practice for his legit works as hes constantly doing this, even breaking perspective guidelines in his head as he draws because he ingrained it already lol
@@XonixDerps idk who that guy is. I do think it’s fine to stylize your drawings with what you see in your head even if it’s incorrect, but to not be so conceited about it? I don’t really understand your comment too well.
@@Azucenary Hes a known artist when it comes to linework I'd say at least how I knew him, really though he can out put a LOT of characters from almost any angle or pose. But, when he says the line " I bet I draw more than you" Hes not meaning to be conceited. He practices himself on the bus, train, car every where really within reason and thinks about perspective in his head constantly for it. The point I was getting at is even a man like him doesn't just poof designs out of nothing - he built a reference library in his own mind to pick from when drawing over the course of his practices, and its something anyone can do with time.
I think this is a great idea for those who already have a fairly established artstyle. I wouldn't recommend this for beginners or early intermediate. I kinda want to try this, but I'll wait til I have more experience. I think I need to work on the overall sketch process first.
I'll keep in mind this, Future manga artist here and I wish to create a fun manga with simple but good art. I also want to be around my future fans longer, plus I want to also be able to do other things and share with family while I am at it. Thank you Whyt!
You can do it! Even I'm working on a light novel, it's far different from a manga , but I thought I could never do it.. But I'm finally getting to do it. Good luck!
Wow, this is really necessary and something that will really help a little in the distant future, because I started learning to draw quite recently, but I hope that I will catch up quickly :D I will still be waiting for videos about the plot and narration and all such aspects
The skipping the sketch thing is something I do a lot. Honestly what helped me the most was just straight up inking no undersketch. Looking at the work of Yoji Shinkawa, Syd Mead, Moebius, Kim Jung Gi, etc helped me a lot. Be confident use sharpie or brush pen move from your elbow and shoulder to define the big forms and then tighten up around complicated intersections of forms, joints, detailed texture, etc. Just let it flow out don't stress too much don't worry if they don't look good at first I promise it'll improve your drawing and inking speed, confidence, and shape design.
I figured this out last year xD i was getting to the point of doing sometimes 2 refined sketches over the dummy layer... now i just treat the first refined sketch as the ink. loosened up my lineart and speed up my time!
100% using this. I made some short stories on insta and i post 1 chapter every week but since i work it feels like i always get it done at the last minute.
I used to do it like this: 1 Rough ► 2 Refined ► 3 Ink ► 4 Color Now I do this: 1 Refined-ish ► 2 ink ► 4 Color I basically try to draw like is a finished drawing but not caring about my mistakes like crooked or jagged lines. However every line you draw should have the intention to be a final line. I also make sure to put most of elements on the artwork but I don't detail or polish them, I just need a general idea of what's going on. It's tricky but it has given me nice results. Nice video!
awesome video as usual. I’ve been thinking about this topic with my own work also lately, to skip that ‘refined’ step in my process was always a thought but it was hard for me to let go of because i’ve been doing it for so long. but to blow up the storyboard and use that. as the refined sketch or skip it all together is really smart. i will definitely be trying this on my manga going forward as my production level is at a all time SUCK right now. Thank you again for the in sight.
This is very powerful information for saving time and boosting productivity. I think I need to master the fundamentals a bit more, so I kinda need to do the second sketches right now, but I hope I can get to the point where I can use this method soon. Great video man.
This video is has sauce!!! By chance would you make a video about know how to publish or self publish your manga work with copyrights etc and knowing what website to use when printing as well?
I've been thinking about making a story that I've had into either an anime or graphic novel but the part in ur vid about making a script first helped me out a lot, I'd just never thought about it before. What I was currently doing was making it up as I do storyboards. Definitely not the best way to do it. Thanks!
5:09 Wow!! That looks awesome! Well depicted impacts (and blasts) are by far my favorite thing ever with art. I'm still a low level artist, so I can't capture that feeling very well yet. But one day! Great job, man!
wow there's like no little to no content about this in English/English translation about traditional, on-paper manga efficiency. About the actual workflow that's shared between multiple professionals.
I remember watching your videos a couple years ago on a old acc and I can’t believe you gotten this good amazing work dude keep it up and I’m trying to make a manga myself it’s called crossover it’s a sports manga
For everyone saying "this requires a very thorough understanding of the fundamentals" well yeah! You probably aren't trying to meet super tight deadlines if you're a beginner. A client right now wants 100 comic cards by the end of May. Impossible for me. I told him it's not happening, I have 2 infants at home with me and I have other weekly commitments to magazines. That's why I'm here. But honestly, I was already skipping the finer sketch... my art doesn't come out good but it comes out good enough
This is a great video. My dream is to make my own graphic novel series but as it stands now while I love doing detailed piece I can be very slow. I'll have to step it up.
Great video man! Now I wanna do my own Manga, but it's probably too late for me hahaha I am too old and been doing a different art style for too long.. but I will try
Honestly I wonder the same thing, it's got that actual *_Ink_* look I've been looking for in a brush. I can't recall if he's mentioned it before- (;õ﹏ŏ)
@WhytManga In your future works can you please make a Romcom Manga with a Black Protagonist ? I want to read one badly, but pls make the heroines with variety and from many backgrounds ( like Infinite Stratos where there're not only heroines of the same ethnicity as the protagonist (Houki) but also from Germany and England ).
It's been a while since I last drew something due to dermatitis on my hands , two of my fingers were stuck in a closed position for months , I feel rusty as hell lol
I notice that people try to cram too much into small panels. Don't do that as it can give someone a headache if you have too much detail. Do less work and simplify. Especially if the panel is small, there's no need to draw someone's whole face in a tiny little corner.
Will you be dropping the full live stream on UA-cam at a later stage? It’s hard to join in South Africa because you stream in the early mornings(South African time)
I tried to do it in a simple portrait (not from a comic page) and the result was not that good, I got lost in proportions. My personal opinion is that this way of drawing take a time to get used to.
I don't really read comments, so pardon if this has been asked and answered. How has your master's benefitted ur art career? I.e. has ur degree opened doors that someone without a degree wouldn't? New sub, liking the content. CoryxKenshin vibes.
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This is very dangerous advice for anyone who doesn't have a very solid knowledge of the fundamentals, and it shows in your art.
as someone with tndonitis u,u im already screw with that i have to do simple color pages and cant work too much in all the week, in my case i just want to be dead cuz ill remain poor and mediocre all my life xd
So you don’t do traditional for your manga? And you doing all this while working another job? Trying to find time to do all of this while working my 8 hour shifts 😪
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Maybe how to detect areas to tone or shade clothes.
maybe coming up with a plot for stories, or how to make great side characters?
What book stores could you find saturday AM stuff??
I would like to know more technical aspects about publishing online, like copyright, labels and that kind of things
Some shounen manga, like One Piece, have repeating arcs structures: the main characters go to another island, meet the inhabitants and learn about the culture, get in a fight with the big bad of the arc, usually there is some kind of ticking clock to add tension to the fight and then they have recovery period before they leave the island.
Any tips for avoiding arc repeating, and by that i mean having same story structure without repeating same plot points in a next or another arc. Readers can easily point out similarities in two arcs, like Bleach has the whole thing where people compare Hueco Mundo and Soul Society arcs due to their similarities and many think its bad that they are similar.
So, how to make repeating arc structure without its repetitiveness becoming detriment to the readers enjoyment?
I don't count episodic manga, like Jojo from part 3 onward, where its mainly "Enemy Stand of the Week", but if you have tips for episodic "villain of the week" style manga story, I'm interested.
Ngl the sketch style you have really helps me draw faster. The whole bigger brush for the outline of the body, leaving me to draw out the rest is extremely helpful and lets you not worry so much about the details in the presketch
Yo, I just saw your comment on another video, I think it's yaboiroshi's demon slayer season 2 episode 13 reaction. Glad to see you here mate!
@@ovn_tamil yessiiiir
can you point out more clearly?
is it in this video or the other video about sketch?
This is EXACTLY what I need!! Every month its the same cycle. Im always asking for extensions on my manga deadlines and have people always waiting to read. It sucks that it takes me so long. But with all the other work I have to do I dont know how else to move. Hopefully this'll help. Thanks in advance 🙏🏾
Realized UA-cam removed the link I sent the guy who responded. My series is called “INFINIUM’ for those interested.
Where can I read your manga?
@@ElderCreationist Man, keep up the good work!
Bro I follow you on Instagram you gotta promote your other social media accounts
@@DanGabrieldS thanks brother
@@ImRyhsinzs I only just made a twitter recently and I promoted it. Im plan on starting advertising after chapter 05 is out. Im more focused on getting the chapters completed right now
Imma be brutally honest to every artist but to do this u do need extreme understanding of the fundamentals if you’re gonna be as rough as whyt is, don’t get me wrong, the video is good but also be realistic and think how much experience whyt has and plan ur roughs accordingly to what u need before u move onto lineart
Reference is so important if you wanna draw fast. Idk why so many people (probably non artists) have such a problem with reference.
@K L Which is funnier given he said it himself in interviews multiple times : "I draw more than you." meaning his own doodles etc are practice for his legit works as hes constantly doing this, even breaking perspective guidelines in his head as he draws because he ingrained it already lol
@K L They need to understand that it's damn hard to reach godhood like Kim Jung Gi
@@XonixDerps idk who that guy is. I do think it’s fine to stylize your drawings with what you see in your head even if it’s incorrect, but to not be so conceited about it? I don’t really understand your comment too well.
@@Azucenary Hes a known artist when it comes to linework I'd say at least how I knew him, really though he can out put a LOT of characters from almost any angle or pose. But, when he says the line " I bet I draw more than you" Hes not meaning to be conceited. He practices himself on the bus, train, car every where really within reason and thinks about perspective in his head constantly for it.
The point I was getting at is even a man like him doesn't just poof designs out of nothing - he built a reference library in his own mind to pick from when drawing over the course of his practices, and its something anyone can do with time.
Hahaha “little things like backgrounds.” 😭
You love to see it. I pre-ordered that new version of Apple Black too. It's nothing but Black Excellence out here
I think this is a great idea for those who already have a fairly established artstyle. I wouldn't recommend this for beginners or early intermediate. I kinda want to try this, but I'll wait til I have more experience. I think I need to work on the overall sketch process first.
I'll keep in mind this, Future manga artist here and I wish to create a fun manga with simple but good art. I also want to be around my future fans longer, plus I want to also be able to do other things and share with family while I am at it. Thank you Whyt!
I should've been drawing days ago 😭, cause maaaannn, I have other projects doing too, and I am doing a fan project too
You can do it! Even I'm working on a light novel, it's far different from a manga , but I thought I could never do it.. But I'm finally getting to do it. Good luck!
Wow, this is really necessary and something that will really help a little in the distant future, because I started learning to draw quite recently, but I hope that I will catch up quickly :D I will still be waiting for videos about the plot and narration and all such aspects
I always run over when Whyt posts new content... It's always something useful 🙏
The skipping the sketch thing is something I do a lot. Honestly what helped me the most was just straight up inking no undersketch. Looking at the work of Yoji Shinkawa, Syd Mead, Moebius, Kim Jung Gi, etc helped me a lot. Be confident use sharpie or brush pen move from your elbow and shoulder to define the big forms and then tighten up around complicated intersections of forms, joints, detailed texture, etc. Just let it flow out don't stress too much don't worry if they don't look good at first I promise it'll improve your drawing and inking speed, confidence, and shape design.
Never knew i dont actually need the finer sketch, best advice i can actually use rn, thanks Whyt Manga! 🔥🔥
I figured this out last year xD i was getting to the point of doing sometimes 2 refined sketches over the dummy layer...
now i just treat the first refined sketch as the ink. loosened up my lineart and speed up my time!
100% using this. I made some short stories on insta and i post 1 chapter every week but since i work it feels like i always get it done at the last minute.
WHO WOULD LIKE TO SEE APPLE BLACK AS AN ANIME? keep up the good work whyte manga!🤙🤙
I used to do it like this: 1 Rough ► 2 Refined ► 3 Ink ► 4 Color
Now I do this: 1 Refined-ish ► 2 ink ► 4 Color
I basically try to draw like is a finished drawing but not caring about my mistakes like crooked or jagged lines. However every line you draw should have the intention to be a final line. I also make sure to put most of elements on the artwork but I don't detail or polish them, I just need a general idea of what's going on. It's tricky but it has given me nice results.
Nice video!
Same! Thanks for spreading the tip
Finally another whyt manga video
awesome video as usual. I’ve been thinking about this topic with my own work also lately, to skip that ‘refined’ step in my process was always a thought but it was hard for me to let go of because i’ve been doing it for so long. but to blow up the storyboard and use that. as the refined sketch or skip it all together is really smart. i will definitely be trying this on my manga going forward as my production level is at a all time SUCK right now. Thank you again for the in sight.
This is very powerful information for saving time and boosting productivity. I think I need to master the fundamentals a bit more, so I kinda need to do the second sketches right now, but I hope I can get to the point where I can use this method soon. Great video man.
This video is has sauce!!! By chance would you make a video about know how to publish or self publish your manga work with copyrights etc and knowing what website to use when printing as well?
By creating something you own the copyright..just put the thing out and don't concern yourself with legality until you have any semblance of success.
I've been thinking about making a story that I've had into either an anime or graphic novel but the part in ur vid about making a script first helped me out a lot, I'd just never thought about it before. What I was currently doing was making it up as I do storyboards. Definitely not the best way to do it. Thanks!
5:09 Wow!! That looks awesome! Well depicted impacts (and blasts) are by far my favorite thing ever with art.
I'm still a low level artist, so I can't capture that feeling very well yet. But one day!
Great job, man!
I should probably not watch videos on how to draw fast and just learn how to draw.
Babe wake up it's a new whyt manga video
wow there's like no little to no content about this in English/English translation about traditional, on-paper manga efficiency. About the actual workflow that's shared between multiple professionals.
I'll make a video about this if I finish the chapter I'm making this month😂
I'm practicing before preaching 🗿
Whyt you're a lifesaver, definitely needed this..... I'll be on time for the deadline (Saturday AM)
Feel that doing it this way gives a lot more life to your final lines to
The final page u did on ur twitch turned out so good 😩
Great! Now I should learn how to overcome with art block, deathwish, depression, suicide thoughts and of course: laziness.
What If you wanna draw manga by hand until you get like a computer and sketch tablet
I remember watching your videos a couple years ago on a old acc and I can’t believe you gotten this good amazing work dude keep it up and I’m trying to make a manga myself it’s called crossover it’s a sports manga
WHERE'S VOLUME THREE?! WHERE IS IT?! GIMMIE IT!!!
I have a feeling it's gonna be awesome! O_O
I love this guys so much, I’m glad I came across this video specifically.
For everyone saying "this requires a very thorough understanding of the fundamentals" well yeah! You probably aren't trying to meet super tight deadlines if you're a beginner. A client right now wants 100 comic cards by the end of May. Impossible for me. I told him it's not happening, I have 2 infants at home with me and I have other weekly commitments to magazines. That's why I'm here. But honestly, I was already skipping the finer sketch... my art doesn't come out good but it comes out good enough
Where can I see your interview with Tony Valente? Great tutorials as always!
Coming soon! just make you sign up for Saturdaycon...
@@whytmangatv Thanks I'm on it!
That's all i need before sma 17 deadline, best timing thanks dude.
Imma buy Apple Black V1 when it comes out
Might make a review on it
Your videos are always on point! A real inspiration for aspiring manga artists outside of Japan!
Yeah. Been doin this for a loooooong while. Sometimes I don't even start w sketches (and I'm good).
Very good video Whyt!! Its been a few years but I'm definitley gonna use this advice to help speed up future volumes! Thank you 🔥❤
Do like the reference folder you can make in Clip that allows you to have premade stuff to pop in
This is a great video. My dream is to make my own graphic novel series but as it stands now while I love doing detailed piece I can be very slow. I'll have to step it up.
Yay! now i can finnaly finish my comic book without getting stressed out my mind!
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO.
Glad it was helpful!
Great video man! Now I wanna do my own Manga, but it's probably too late for me hahaha I am too old and been doing a different art style for too long.. but I will try
Definitely gonna try this soon 🥷🏾🤙🏾
That's really amazing,I might try that out
Love drawing hello from france 👍🎨🔥
Thank you! Cheers!
bro i love ur vids i wanna become a mangaka when i grow up just like u
Cool. That's a technique I've been applied for some years . . It's very useful in general no only when u to need to save time.
Holly molly I have the feeling this will be catastrophic for me, but I will try it
Ah yes. A test for the REAL gangstas in the art community. 😏
Where can I buy your Apple Black Manga? I love your illustration by the way. 👍💯✨ The storyboards and panels are awesome man!✨✨✨
pre order my manga here! www.amazon.com/shop.whytmanga
@@whytmangatv thank you so much!
@@michaelogwo9590 your welcome
@@whytmangatv ok boss
I pretty much just do the inking or do bare minimum 2 minute pencils.
Wanna draw faster? Easy, draw faster
Didnt watch it yet but thanks for all the tipps ! 🏆
Mr.why I want to write manga but I’m good drawing on paper but not digital what would be the best place to send a one shot at
Thank you, it was helpful.
Okay let me sit down for this one
Fantastic video! very inspiring.
I think the best way is to simplify your art, fr eg. do u rlly need to draw those lil lines on the hair that are barely visible?
What are the main brushes you use for inking? And what made you choose them? Just curious
Honestly I wonder the same thing, it's got that actual *_Ink_* look I've been looking for in a brush. I can't recall if he's mentioned it before- (;õ﹏ŏ)
He uses the real g-pen... (clip studio paint)
@@kanekaiken7431 Well that figures. Yeah G-Pen I use in Medibang doesn't feel _nearly_ as 'sharp' as his seems to be.
Is it just me who actually PREFERS a sketchy art style over clean ones?
That's very impressive
Amazing Art
@WhytManga In your future works can you please make a Romcom Manga with a Black Protagonist ? I want to read one badly, but pls make the heroines with variety and from many backgrounds ( like Infinite Stratos where there're not only heroines of the same ethnicity as the protagonist (Houki) but also from Germany and England ).
9:19 ”Where’s Volume 3?! Where is it?! (pause) I DON’T HAVE THROAT CANCER!!”
I need to fail faster to draw faster. I must write the dialog first, and then draw the visuals. Just like you said, right?
I could tell this applies to comic books and webtoons as well.
OMG! Where have you been in my life?
5:40 ummm did he just draw hands in a matter of seconds the talent 😭🤌🏽❤️
It's been a while since I last drew something due to dermatitis on my hands , two of my fingers were stuck in a closed position for months , I feel rusty as hell lol
Awesome I do the same thing for my manga this process is alot faster and less work
lol, mad advice bro, I don’t even use guidelines and I still draw well, I guess, never learnt to use one, do you think it’s necessary?
dem hands though ,100%
I notice that people try to cram too much into small panels. Don't do that as it can give someone a headache if you have too much detail. Do less work and simplify. Especially if the panel is small, there's no need to draw someone's whole face in a tiny little corner.
you should do a review on krita for manga
What brush are you using in this video to ink? It looks really good
the "Real G-Pen."
@@whytmangatv thank you so much it looks really good with your artwork
Thank you teacher
Also thank you
Will you be dropping the full live stream on UA-cam at a later stage? It’s hard to join in South Africa because you stream in the early mornings(South African time)
Great video as always, also the caption was in Korean lol 😂 idk how that happened. I’m currently in the scripting phase of my story
I just... drew... my first manga panel for my one shot which I wrote.
IT TOOK ME 5HOURSS
😢😢😢
5 HOURSSS
YUP😢😢
I tried to do it in a simple portrait (not from a comic page) and the result was not that good, I got lost in proportions. My personal opinion is that this way of drawing take a time to get used to.
And please let me know: this method is recommended for using only when drawing comics?
I don't really read comments, so pardon if this has been asked and answered. How has your master's benefitted ur art career? I.e. has ur degree opened doors that someone without a degree wouldn't? New sub, liking the content. CoryxKenshin vibes.
This is very dangerous advice for anyone who doesn't have a very solid knowledge of the fundamentals, and it shows in your art.
Quick question, do you use this method all the time and do you have to clean mess from it
Do we have to skip a step so was can draw faster I just used to rough sketch so I can draw freely without worrying of messing up
Awesome video! \m/
Whyt, do you still have the Discord server? The Link is invalid for some reason, can someone update?
well.. I'm still super slow
Should i do line art or sketch
I also make comics but how do I turn it into an actual book like yours?
What is that touchscreen tablet that whyt uses?
as someone with tndonitis u,u im already screw with that i have to do simple color pages and cant work too much in all the week, in my case i just want to be dead cuz ill remain poor and mediocre all my life xd
Where's volume three? where is it? Gimme it👹 😂
volume 3 & 4 are out and the 5 drops in october.
i love it 😍💖
Hey whyt I have been meaning to join the discord and the link is expired can you please send a new link.
ive never used a refined sketch and never understood why others did lol it's such a meaningless step
So you don’t do traditional for your manga? And you doing all this while working another job? Trying to find time to do all of this while working my 8 hour shifts 😪