Miter Gauge Upgrade : Incra 1000SE vs. Osborne EB-3
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Crosscutting wood on the table saw requires the use of a Mitre Gauge and in this episode, I am comparing 2 very good miter gauge upgrades to see how they differ in usage and features.
We'll be comparing the Incra 1000SE Vs. Osborne EB-3 and hopefully you'll be able to decide which mitre gauge works best for you.
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Putting the gauge in the far end of the slot & pulling it towards you to seat it is a revelation. I feel silly for not thinking of such a simple trick.
Yup same here i was doing front front for longest time until i saw someone else do this, installing from back is a game changer
I am a HUGE Incra fan and use their fence systems on my router table. So, when I needed a miter gauge for the table saw, they were the first company I looked at. Its a fantastic product but I bought the Osborne. Its speed in use for 98% of what I do won me over. I have owned it for many years now and have never felt it lacking in features or abilities. And it gets used a LOT. Radial arm saw is gathering dust.
On the Osbourne or any device if you constantly use a measurement that is not well defined.
Set up and check the device to get it exactly where you want it.
Take a fine hacksaw blade and put a mark cut in that bar and then fill it with a high visibility nail polish. Bright orange works pretty good.
That way you can put it back right where it was every time without going through all the extra set up steps.
I upgraded to the v27 several years ago and never looked back. The t slot in my old saw was worn and sloppy, and the wear was uneven to make things worse, but the Inca nylock system worked like a champ! I actually just bought a 3000se from govdeals auction for 63 bucks! Can’t wait to get it and put it to good use! ( I was able to inspect it before bidding, it’s in perfect condition!!) All this to say, I would be totally against the way the Osborne adjusts to fit. The reason is that now you are metal to metal and after dealing with a saw that had a worn out miter slot I don’t want another. The incra nylock rings are meant intentionally to be sacrificial putting much less wear and tear on the saws mitre slot, I’d rather replace them than have to replace my saw…..again. Great video, keep em coming!
Hi Colin. How did you get the the spring loaded type screw to stay in? I just picked up a Magnum Tri-precision Mitre Guide but the spring loaded screw type for adjusting the angles, fell out of it's hole. Can't see how to get it to stay back in....lol...
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Great video, Colin. Just as a side note, I believe that both can be set up to work in the right hand miter slot fairly easily as well.
Great videos Colin.
I've had my Incra 1000SE for around 15 years, (I bought is at Rockler Torrance CA and took it home to the UK with me, along with a ton of other great stuff you guys are lucky enough to get).
I've readjusted the nylon expanders in the bar once in that time due to a little wear creeping in and realigned for true on a number of occasions after dropping the tool on my carpeted shop floor.
As for accuracy, like the Incra hype goes, "any angle any time", a fantastic product I wouldn't hesitate to recommend.
The key clip (I call it a tooth) on my Sawstop's miter gauge gets on my nerves. But when I pull the gauge back behind the table's edge, the clip keeps the gauge from falling back and down onto my foot. As usual, we get a choice of problem.
I purchased the Osborne miter about 30 years ago after seeing Norm Abram on New Yankee Workshop use his. I love it, very fast to set up and make different angle cuts, and their is no learning curve to deal with. I also have the Incra and love it but as my eyes are getting older I use the Osborne all the time now. Both are great but I feel that the Osborne is easier to use.
I got the Osborne. And still learning. Thanks for sharing. Greetings from California.
I cant buy this in my region so make video of something than anyone on eatrh can buy.
Hello Colin! Well, I guess I'm still a little old fashioned here; I still have my 1973 Craftsman table saw and I still love it. To get the play out of the miter gauge, I gently center punched the left and right sides of the gauge's metal bar alternating sides about 1/2" apart along the whole bar. Then I'd try it in the miter slot and either stone the bar or dimple it a little more in places. I only had to do that once and it still has no play. I lubricate the miter slot with candle wax. I drilled a hole through the bottom of a candle, ran a loop of string through it, and i hang it on the front of the saw with an "S" hook that I made out of hanger wire. Almost 50 years later, still works GREAT! I also put a good piece of straight 1" maple on the gauge too. You're absolutely right about those tri-squares. I used to work in a machine shop and a good Starrett square is the only way to go. I was lucky enough to get my three piece set in 1973 from someone that was retiring. Still have it. Yes, the cost is painful but it is worth every penny! It is interesting to see how tools evolved! Thank You Sir!
Thanks for the tips and thanks for watching!
What shape exactly is a HEXICAN?
i own both and seem to reach for the Osborne more...thanks for the review
Thanks for the knowledge about thesis Miter Gauges Sir
You're Welcome!
I'll be curious about what you think of the Osborne when you try to set the stop block to a particular dimension with the built-in scale. Amazon reviewers did not like this aspect of that miter gauge. They didn't like it a lot. Oh well.
I'll try to report back if it becomes an issue for me.
Thank you Colin I just found 2 features I didn’t know about, I have the Incra and love it. It’s so accurate. I use the same model. Take Care
Hope it helps! Thanks for watching!
Thanks Colin. I actually have have both of these exact models and I agree with your assessment. Several years back, I walked into Island Saw looking for an Incra. They did not carry them, but the salesperson talked me into the Osborne. I have been happily using it ever since and only a month ago added the Incra 1000 to my shop.
What about the Osborne made you feel the need to have the Incra as well?
Awesome great job very interesting
I have the Osbourne and love it. I must admit the Incra has more precise measurements, but I haven't needed that so far in my hobby woodworking journey. Thanks for a great review.
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
Thank you. I own the Osborne - and learned several new things. Thank you one more time.
Hope it helps! Thanks for watching!
So my question is, does only the Incra allow you to do odd off angles like 70 degrees or 80 ect? The Osborne doesn't look to have much options for these types of angles?
Colin, yet another great video. Your wisdom and the way you communicate your knowledge is very much appreciated. I would like to see what jigs you could make with the gauge at 90 degrees. Maybe a taper jig with very accurate repeatable angles (near 90 degrees). Thanks again!
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
I like your way of presenting these beautiful tools. Thank you so much ! Hello from France :-)
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
I like these not-a-review, show-and-tell type vids, they give me an idea of what tools are available and why I might want to invest. One small thing, some idea of the cost versus worth would be helpful - okay, that would be an opinion but, y'know... Thanks Colin I enjoyed that.
You're welcome, Mark! I'll try to some sort ROI in future videos.
Incra makes a ratchet lever knob (BKN0BS2) which eliminates the need for the hex screwdriver. Simply replace the hex screw with the bolt and knob, and rotate the lever when you want to loosen the screw. I have them on my 1000SE, and they work well. I can move the lever, and pull out the extension. They enhance the usability of the miter gauge.
Thanks for the tip and thanks for watching!
hi Colin as you I live it Canada so when I click on the link to see what the product costs I see $139 and &187'
now that would be great I should get one or the other. but I live in CANADA like you and the prices are a little higher no a lot higher $312 and $469.
So what I'm saying is maybe just maybe include Canadian amazon links
and thanks great video keep up the great work
Thanks for the tip and thanks for watching!
1) Great video as usual. Thanks
2) I have been using an Incra miter V27 (less than $75 some of us have a tight budget) with an wooden auxiliary fence that gets changed often or an aluminum fence with an extension bar and stop block.
3) I will put this in the same category of Ford vs Chevy
Hola
The Incra is accurate to within a 1/10 of a degree . I do not see how that can be beaten.
Nice informative video Colin. I own the Incra & have never had a problem using it. It's also very accurate & east to use. Thanks for the video....................
You're welcome, Sapele! Thanks for watching.
Thank you! I own the Incra 1000 but I am considering getting the Osborne. I like the 45 degree cut in the fence. One thing I noticed the last time I was in my Rockler store was that the pivots on their demo Osborne EB-3 seemed a little sloppy and looked like it could cause the gauge to pivot about a half degree. If I am going to rely on the little holes on the underside of the triangular brace to hole my angles, then I want the pivots to be rock solid. Can these pivots be tightened, or maybe the ones in my Rockler store were excessively worn? Do you have any thoughts on this concern? As an aside, I noticed you had a home brew fold-down outfeed table. Do you have a video or other info on how you made this? Thank you again!
Actually, the triangle design of the Osborne provides far more stability than a protractor design. Must have just been the demo model you handled.
I liked the Incra because it appeared to be easier to set and has the sliding fence option. Clamp a board to it and use it as a taper gauge or a jointer.
Thanks for explaining those miter gauges to us. I have an Incra-1000SE and could not grasp the written explanation on how one uses the micro-adjustment on that one. You have clarified it well.
Hope it helps! Thanks for watching!
I have an Incra 1000HD and really like it. I do however like the fact that you can move the fence and the extension on the Osborne without a tool. The 1000HD has detents at every degree plus the half degree scale so it is VERY precise.
Thanks for watching!
I am a beginning woodworker and am about to buy a serious miter gauge. The Incra seems to be my top choice. You appeared to have only a minor reservation regarding the adjustment washers but I'm sure that's something I can live with.
Thank you for this and all the other great videos.
Hope it helps! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for showing the Osborne EB-3. I didn't know it existed. I doubt I'll buy one since I'm happy with my Incra.
Thanks for watching!
Just i want to ask you about how to make wooden biscuits in home for biscuit jointer because i did not found wooden biscuits in my country and did not found video totorial about that matter ... thanx
@@jhart7304 sory can you explain how to make biscuit foom wood
I like to run the board all the way thru, flip it over and clip off a sliver going the other direction and checking the width of that slice from end to end.
Thanks for the tip and thanks for watching!
Ingenious! A lot easier than the five-cut method. Precise enough, I should think.
I think you should have gone over the features of the Incra flip stop. It's a very clever design that is actually two stops and is extremely accurate.
I've done an in-depth review of the Incra here: ua-cam.com/video/-BZWyduxVZQ/v-deo.html
Thanks for watching!
What does SE stand for and what's the difference between HD?
@woody woods
The ''SE'' is Special Edition and it has a a fence with the adjustable stop block and its protractor gauge that is adjustable for accuracy. The basic V27 miter gauge just uses a non-adjustable sticker for the protractor markings.
Thanks Colin. Learned several new things and always appreciate your tutorials
Both of these look excellent. I like the tool less adjustability of the osbourne and the notches for adjusting the angle on the incra. Thanks for sharing 👍😎🇦🇺
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
I've had the Incra miter V27 for years & made my own extension with flip stop. Has worked great for me.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for sharing Colin, you made another interesting video my friend!
You're Welcome!
Thank you Colin. I have been looking at a high end miter gauge for my table saw and this was a big help. I suspect I'll get what I can get the best deal on. LOL. I"m glad to know you like both.
Hope it helps! Thanks for watching!
As always great video with great information
Thank You!
Another great video, thank you, Colin. I see that Incra has a much cheaper version at around $60 I think I may have to check that out. I knew about these already, but your insight is useful.
Thanks for watching!
Great video, I appreciate the info. You might check the link to the Incra, it gets you close but does not pull up the product. Thanks again.
Thanks for letting me know and thanks for watching.
I enjoy and respect your honest opinion! Thanks for making this video!
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
Excellent comparison. Thanks for sharing.
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
Colin - love your videos, thank you. Also, I often like to check the price of tools in your videos. If you have a chance to leave Amazon links to the products you are discussing, that would be very helpful, too. Thanks again.
The Amazon links are in the video description.
Thanks for watching!
@@knecht105 you are the G.O.A.T.!!
Seems like Incra might be good for tapering legs?
Just make a jig or buy one. Not terribly expensive.
Just started to look into Incra line of miter gauges, this has been a big help. Thank you.
Hope it helps! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the detailed info
Thanks Colin. Great explanation of the features.
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
Nice T i p.
Thank You!
Great vid, I liked the tip on slotting in the mitre gauge easier, great tip, thanks 😜👍👍👍👍
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!