Russell And Bottas' Crash Drama | Jolyon Palmer's F1 TV Analysis | 2021 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix
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- Опубліковано 20 кві 2021
- The former F1 driver casts a critical eye over the big incident between Mercedes' Valtteri Bottas and Williams' George Russell that occurred during the Emilia Grand Prix.
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This confirms that Kimi can orchestrate accidents with nothing but his mind.
Guy is Jedi!
Actually kimis mind is so strong that protects most drivers from having accidents... Unfortunately when raining the signal is less strong and the williams has interference.
Iceman strikes again !
Didn't he orchestrate an accident at Imola and w Russell (under the safety car)
So Kimi Magneto?
Funny how Kimi was behind Russell last year when he crashed and again this year 😂
Alfa Romeo utilising a S🅱️innala beam to get points at Imola
Bwoah! Free positions.
He can't handle the heat and pressure of the iceman
@@deeznoots6241 sadly Kimi's penalty took him out of the points.
I don't know if anyone has ever witnessed more F1 crashes up close and personal than Kimi
I think the only "controversial" thing about it is people who just can't fathom the thought that their favourite driver made a mistake.
I really don’t get how anyone could have any hard feelings here, especially for George who is a fairly inexperienced driver, mistakes just happen, he’ll learn a lesson. All these people who know better afterwards have never sat in an F1 car themselves
@@maja194 same thing with Verstappen a few years ago they just need to learn. in a few years Leclerc, Russell,Verstappen & Norris are fighting for the championship if f1 continues this way and then alot of more of these moment will occur.
Yeah, like skyshitsport presenters during the race and accident. They were blaming bottas all along. Im glad that Palmer did kinnda make it right here.
@@maja194 at what point do you stop calling someone inexperienced he’s been in multiple years in f1
@@michealjaymurphy yes - but not in a car where he could ever hope to be fighting for positions. Passing a Mercedes at turn one at Imola in the wet is definitely a new experience...
Wait so Russell screws up, crashes into Bottas, gets out of his car, and hits Bottas again??? No wonder Toto Wolf is angry.
Russell broke the golden rule. Only Toto's allowed to hit things lol
what a shame for bottas driveing skills, he has a much better car and so on . Think plz switch cockpits in this year Toto!!!
@@SCW82492 lol did you even watch the video till the end?
Its basically kind of a natural crash bcs both driver was crashed due to bottas going to the dry side
Which isnt his fault since at that speed bottas could till crashed when going through the wet side
And it still makes no sense why they signed George instead of keeping Bottas
jolyon palmer is the coolest teacher in the school.
Nope, Sam Collins is. But Palmer's a close second maybe.
My thoughts exactly. Not biased at all.
Like they say, "Those who can't do, teach." Not hating on Palmer I'm a teacher myself. Haha.
Nope, Sam Collins the goat
Naw gimme the tech guy ALL day. Dude would've been talkin bout how wat specific internal parts broke during the crash and all
That comparison with hamilton was so useful for showing how it was basically russell's error that caused the crash
But Hamilton reached Norris later, so it was easier for him to make it stick. So the angle to stay close to Bottas car is difficult, because of that bend. I think it was too much of a risk with a damp track, but I assume it would have worked if he reached Bottas as late as Hamilton Norris.
The condition of the track isn't why he spun though. There was enough room to not go onto the white lines (and rear onto the grass). He's just panicked a bit and over compensated.
I'm a big supporter of Russell, he just messed up. Still learning
@UCOJ9iHduEc8BlE12Y9L1U5g My thoughts exactly (on the first two paragraphs anyway). You can cleraly see that Lando never crosses the white line going from pit exit (on a dry track..) while Bottas squeezes over the white line.
It doesn't look intentional, but then again, Rosberg in Monaco 2014 didn't either...🙄
@@philipppichler5681 Hamilon also overtook on a track that was a lot more dry. Russels move was just impatient that's it.
@@fatcontrole1 Yeah I'm also rooting for Russell to do well in the future. I remember rewinding this live and I knew Russell ultimately caused this crash. With experience, confidence and patience, he'll become more consistent and less likely to make these errors in the future.
Finally, an analysis which absolves Bottas of any of the blame for this incident. I really can't believe people would apportion him any of the blame at all. Bottas' response to Russell's move was spot on perfect.
I don’t fully agree. Bottas was more to the right than Noris. He was beyond the white line whereas Noris was to the left. I still think it was a racing incident, but I think Bottas was overly aggressive
@@bvpmiranda yeah bro i think it wasn't Norris' fault
@@bvpmiranda he was more on the right because the dry line is in there, if he pushed more to the left, hes the one who will spin instead
@@bvpmiranda including the road conditions, bottas gave more space he supposed to than norris on a dry road. And russel shouldnt made that move in the first place considering all weather factors
@@kiarakia2071 I don’t think there’s any racing driver in the world that would NOT have made that move.
The underrated part of this video is Kimi's reaction time. You can hear him start to break and downshift seemingly instantaneously of George losing control. Either that, or he already knew what was about to happen...
True, not his first GP haha.
*Me 10 seconds after something controversial happened during the race: "WHERE IS PALMER?"
Palmer retired from the race
KARMA!
karma
In the garage, cutting the chicken! 🤣🤣
KARMA
@@Akash_Tyagi_93 Yolk!
you can see that bottas is following the dry line by kimi’s view
You can also see at 3:31 that Bottas actually went beyond the dry line - and beyond the white line - what spooked Russel. Not by far - but he went further than was his racing line.
@@pkundrat Yep, this is the defending part. It was done all race long (this is the DRS zone where everybody overtook each other all race) by all drivers. As everyone else, Bottas left a healthy gap for another car to pass on the outside. The wet patch outside the racing line isn't something Bottas has to worry about. Overtaking in a wet, but drying up track is always a calculated risk. Russell did some miscalculation this time around.
@@pkundrat Then he should have been closer to Bottas like Ham was with Norris, his own fault.
@@pkundrat look at how hamilton waited to be close enough to norris to make the overtake, that how professionals move
And not being an impatient lad who just want to show-off
@@kiarakia2071 You are unfair to Russel. Hamilton move was on a dry track, thats not apples-to-apples.
Jolyon Palmer's analysis is second to none. I'd watch a one hour series of him analysing the whole race weekend
Buy F1 TV subscription then😉
He is a fantastic analysis, but he has overlooked the effect of the bargeboard hitting the ground on the Williams as Russell pulls out of the slipstream. Surely, this is a big reason why Russell drifted so far out to the right and a considerable contributor to his inability to control the car. Just a thought. 4:56
The thing i m most angry is about sky commentators who without any analysis just to please large English Russell fanbase were blaming bottas as an easy target.
I thought this was on Russell the moment it happened, was proper shocked when he went over and raged at Bottas, I thought he was going over to apologies not boot off at him like white van man!
Same, I figured Bottas may have come all the way to the edge is not just out of the dry line to give Russell the pucker and dissuade him from the move but Russell didn't see it through properly nor did he back out so it was a mistake on his part. Kind of like a brake check on the road... Their fault they hit you but you presented them the opportunity to make the mistake and it also hurts you.
Same. Watching it live I was thinking... yo... there was room and I'm pretty sure I've seen guys make a pass there with less or the same room all day.
@@maximumcoast4002 even some analyst from expert and comparison with norris & hamilton wasn't enough for russell fanboi, just wonder how they react if bottas is the one who hit russell.
Exactly same thing I thought. He was going over to apologize and make sure Bottas was okay. When I saw russell flick the car, I'm like why is he doing that? (And I'm a russell fan).
@@JJs_playground Same, I really like Russell and was routing for him in Bahrain last year but that was off. I hope he did check Bottas was OK first before road raging at him, imagine if Bottas got out with a broken back or his leg was severed whilst he was sat there!
Bottas: “A learning day for George”
Me: “A happy day for Kimi”
30 second penalty for kimi be like
Two cars crash in front of kimi
Kimi's engineer: that was an easy overtake
this replay made me realise that upon impact, the halo has once again saved a driver from critical injury
I can't imagine F1 without halo. But I think this is not the case here, I think he would be fine without halo, because if you see a photo of the side of an f1 car, the body of the car is heightened on each side of the head of the driver, which is quite thick also. That would have protected him fine in this case.
@@Dzaen2 I’m not sure, watch the footage slowly, the Pirelli tyre slams right into the side of the halo and even breaks on it, I’m not sure a few bumps is gonna protect an f1 car crashing while at top speed
@@Dzaen2 yes they raised this height after the Hakkinen crash at Adelaide?? Or was it Senna's crash? More protection around the driver.
And isn't it near where Senna got a wheel in the head?🤔
Halo had no life saving effect, the tyre hit the survival cell, and you're going to need more than a tyre to break the monocoque
It's embarrassing that the (new) F1 fans find that it's alright that Russell smacked Bottas but if Mazepin did it, he would have been put on a public trail. It's the highest level of a professional sport, you can't physically attack your fellow professionals.. and no there is no justification for it, its not that we see this everyday. Such behaviour needs to be called out.
yea because new fans are used to other sports where athletes get into actual fights when fouls occur 😂😂😂
@@remy7663 Give 3 examples of sports that allow fighting.
Edit: Obviously "allow fighting" means non-combat sports but it's not so obvious to some?
Has nothing to do with a fan being new or not. Don't know where you are pulling that out of.
and it did, russel was already coming around when he saw the cctv footage
That little tap is about as alright as Bottas giving him the finger
Let the mask slip on how much frustration he has built up being stuck in that Williams
Georgie Boy will be stuck a lot longer.
@@encinobalboa No he will not. If Mercedes and arrogant Totto don't want him he will find free seat, no question about that.
@@WhiteNinjainblack Maybe. Accident could have been blamed on tricky conditions but Georgie's lack of maturity is what will stick in the minds of the bosses. Georgie will languish at Williams until he grows up.
@@WhiteNinjainblack but who would he go to? Ferrari are sorted with Charles and Carlos. Mclaren have lando and Daniel, RB have max and it seems like checo is only going to get better. Alpine is only a few spots better than Williams ither than Mercedes I don’t see him going anywhere else
Aston Martin or Alpha Taur, Alfa Romeo or Red Bull. I am not impressed with Perez performance.
Excellent analysis. It's been painful to watch Sky UK media doing verbal somersaults in blaming VB over GR on the live stream. Unbiased commentary is what true fans want.
The day SkyTv loose the rights to F1 in the UK can't come soon enough!!!!! I point blank refuse to give Murrdoch any more of my money!
Seeing Hamilton successfully pull the same move on Norris puts a nice perspective on it.
Two vastly different video clips as Lando gave him the necessary space and did not force him wide.
They squeeze is different mate. La do squeezed before, botas during
One was in lap 32, the other in lap 60. Track was much dryer when Hamilton did the overtaking on Norris.
@broccoli Is that a question? I assume not so another assumption is you haven't seen the onboard footage of the other overtakes vs this one. If you had you will clearly see Bottas cross the white line forcing George into the pit lane exit and with that angle of attack and the speed difference between the two, it was guaranteed to happen. Bottas would rather have this outcome than being beaten by George in a Williams.
@@gavintruter2762 no, hamiltion waited like 3 laps to get close enough to norris to make the overtake
Does Russell expect bottas to lay out a red carpet for him to pass and take his seat at mercedes?
Isn't that basically what he's doing crawling around a lap down in P9 anyway?
@@juli7xxxxx If Bottas did that then, it wasn't on purpose, as Palmer already explained, he was struggling with tyre temp. nothing you can do about that really
Bad judgement on the pass for sure!
@@juli7xxxxx We all know Bottas is not better than Hamilton but everyone can see that he has been struggling with car since testing, especially the back end.
@@TheGenetik007 considering his goal is to be champion he has been struggling since day one in that Mercedes, he's a number 2 to Hamilton and that's all he is ever going to be but I don't think he has realized it yet claiming to be going to the championship
Bravo again Mr Palmer, excellent analysis 👏 👏👏
I've read this comment in french accent
@@superGGfr why?
@@ihuomao6735 Bravo and Excellent are french words too, and French for analysis is analyse. So it sounds like a french dude trying to speak English the easiest way.
Palmer needed to magnify the image
@@superGGfr
What happens if you read something Guenther Steiner said..?
Actually now with the slowmo it looks like Russel is wandering more to the right than he needs and the does a tiny flick to the left that spins him once he reaches the edge.
Thats the back tyre reaching the white line, and spinning with no traction, that means the inside wheel has traction and will spin him clockwise nose into the barrier , so his instinct was to correct with a left turn in , however at that point and that speed it was then in the hands of the gods , once he hit the verge with Bottas merc inside him on the track he had lost control with no where to go and pitched himself into the merc.
yea, at the end of the day he ran wide. Had enough room and bottas never made a real move to close the door and defend. I mean bottas is really just following the dry racing line beside squeezing him a little but leaving a car width.
If you see Raikkonen takes the exact same line as Bottas. I don't think Bottas was defending at all.
@@halfmv2 maybe frame by frame it doesn’t look like a squeeze but at 205mph that makes somewhat of a difference lol
@@snicki854 difference is you expect him to move and leave you only a cars width of space so you know he will be there, its no surprise
Spot on. Bottas stayed on the dry line, didn’t make any sudden movements and gave space on the outside. Russell simply went a bit too wide and caught the grass. Nothing more than a racing incident for me. Russell reaction after could have been better but it is a learning opportunity for him.
If you slow the onboard from Russell's car down, you can clearly hear his rear tires spin up before he even gets to the white line...
@@alangbaker The rear tyres are wider than the front tyres, since the paint is almost as slippery as the grass as soon as he touched the white line with the rears he was going around.
Russell didn't get on the grass. It was more aquaplaning from a wet patch on the edge of the track. So Russell never went off the track. It's just that he was unlucky that a wet patch was present there. Yes, he could have been more close to Bottas to reduce the risk, but again, this is at 300kmh. So racing incident for me, but Russell is also slightly at fault. Bottas is at no way at fault.
Well said!
6:14 watch it again carefully...
look closer bottas was full left side and went insta mid like a dog
Norris slowly closed to middle and let Hamilton much more time to see how should he move
in Norris and Hamilton's scenario they already left the pit lane when the overtake occured and Norris closed in much fair for Hamilton to react carefully
Bottas closed in like an absolute insane person to Russel when he knew there were WET PATCHES
Bottas is a medicore Mercedes driver, after years still unable to progress
6:41 You have to leave the space
Alonso- *karma*
Upvote this comment!
ALWAYS
Where's Palmer?
@aritz zabala lol ikr
ALL THE TIME. LEAVE THE SPACE
Before the video I thought this was a 50-50 fault incident, but with Hamilton's overtake to compare, now I know it was Russell's miscalculation. Bottas made everything right on his defensive move.
Thing is, if you compare those two, you need to see where Lando was compared to the pit exit line. Totally to the left of it. Bottas had his right wheels on the right side of that line. Also another thing people just casually say is "Bottas realized he was squeezing Russell", or something along those lines. Yes he did leave a car's width, but he did so at too much of an angle. Bottas headed over to the right side of the dry racing line and continuing too quickly for a faster Williams with more speed and DRS on a wet part of the track. Bottas' movement was the cause for Russell not having much of a chance in keeping on the track, but it is wayy too small for penalizing Bottas. Racing incident.
@@paraneutral It was Russels decision to overtake on the wet part of the track. You cant expect the opponent to leave the ideal line and the dry track. There were enough room, you can clearly see from the Liqui Moly sign onwards that Bottas isnt closing Russels lane any further, and the gap between both cars gets bigger and bigger because Russel doesnt steer left to keep on the track. Sorry but I cant see the slightest fault in Bottas' behavior. Russel misjudged here and didnt commit to his line.
@@Triggerboy78 Neither can you expect an opponent to make the same move on a wetter part of the drack with higher speed and DRS. To clarify the problem, I'd probably need visualization, but as I said, Bottas, after realizing he is squeezing Russell a bit too much, did a pretty sharp turn to the left for driving at 200 mph, which Russell couldnt replicate with his conditions.
@@paraneutral And Russell was in those conditions due to himself making the conscious decision to go on the wet and attempt an overtake that clearly wasn't going to go his way. Bottas holds exactly 0% of the blame.
@@bigmaclexa2981 How? Bottas squeezed Russell the most out of any driver on an overtake at that part of the track that was seen. And that on the wettest point it had been done on slicks.
Great analysis and I said it from the beginning it was Russell's fault, not sure why Russell was mad at Bottas.
Misjudgement and the wide spread character trait of not being able of admitting ones own mistake.
@@maxvandoorn3799 i can understand why he thought he was right because you have to remember, he's on a wet line and not as much control with DRS. Getting pushed wide, you try to keep the car stable as well. He did admit after that he was wrong but people just have a burning hate the guy for no reason 💀
It was obvious to me that George was trying to double down on his anger to "prove" how innocent he was in the crash.
yeah. quite true.
I understand russell trying to prove himself innocent but what I did not like about the entire incident was the commentators emphasising on bottas movement rather than staying neutral and waiting for the analysis of the incident.
@@amanpreetsingh1100 sadly, the commentators are never neutral. They will always favor British drivers over anyone else, regardless of the facts.
@@JamesV1 Martin Brundle was instantly saying that Russell got spooked and lost the rears.
Russel was tooo immature to act like that after the crash.... honestly didnt expect that from him....bottas was shook after the crash
Yeah my first thought when I saw him walking to the MB was that British Gentleman Mr Saturday would go there to check if Valteri was alright. If not for the halo he would have decapitated Bottas.
spare the moral panic .lets see how you act with so much adrenaline
@@alpd7638 ? With adrenaline most people don't react with physical violence. I'm concerned if you do.
so would you say giving someone the finger was tooo immature aswell. just to be clear i think what happened there was pretty much nothing and everybody needs to calm down seen far worse in the past.
I think we take this kind of stuff way out of context. Russell was on his way to earning Williams their first points since 2018 and about to overtake someone who is effectively competing for his Merc seat. And then suddenly it was all taken away in an incident that he didn't see as his fault. I think it was Russell's mistake that caused the crash after seeing this but in the heat of the moment with all that adrenaline I think it's unreasonable not to expect racing drivers of all people to get a little emotional. If we judged all F1 drivers by how they act in the midst of such a moment we'd be fans of nobody
The deep analysis and even an example with the identical move with other drivers but it will still not be enough to humble the toxic Russel fanbase blaming Bottas...
Just like in The Race post like hours earlier, i called out russels actions and one of his fans defended him badly
I do agree it was Russel's fault, but I think compared to the Norris/Lewis overtake, Bottas came over farther
@@edbm1432 Does that really matter? He's entitled to move over as far as he wishes as long as there's a car width of space. Russell had MORE than enough space to keep it on the track. It was an overzealous move in bad conditions on dry tyres.
not only the fans but also the commentators who were all the time talking about bottas movement to the right instead of staying neutral and waiting for the analysis to happen
@@edbm1432 nope, norris squeezed hamilton a bit more
" Russell Lost control " - period.
Literally and figuratively, it would seem. Hope the lad can just keep his head down and develop.
@@J5L5M6 I'm sure he will. Remember all the incidents Max had at the beginning of his F1 career - we all said the same thing about him and now he's matured into a very hard but fair racer. It will be the same for George. All the drivers would have made a similar mistake sometime in their career!
The armchair analyst. lol.
@@ashc151 Yeah I can't believe Russel went over and smacked Bottas' helmet after the incident. He nearly killed the man and then goes and smacks him too. That's awful.
He did, but he was a passenger after touching the white line, not a chance anyone could catch that and keep control. It's more a debate on making the move and each cars positioning. Blame Russell if you like, but for his judgement of the move or positioning his car on the white line, not for the loss of control when on the white line.
this is EXACTLY how i saw it.
I dont get how anyone can see it differently
Rus was the only one who lost control of the car and crashed into Bot, I don't get it why Jolyon didn't say clearly say it was 100% Rus fault... That's the conclusion of this video but he didn't say that.
@@texas1325 I guess he didn’t say it to cause more controversy or something idk. But this was 100% Russel’s fault
biases, what else is there
Same. So many people are blaming Valtteri for this one because he's not performing as well in the Mercedes. Some people have such a hard time separating matters in this world...
@@texas1325 he crashed right to the HEAD of bottas, this could have been much worse without the halo.
how can u go and get angry at Bottas after crashing into his head!!
So why was Russell so blinded with accusations? Bottas was underperforming during the weekend but that is no reason to belittle him and blame him for the accident.
even kinda trying to make fun of him for being in that position
after turkey last year I didnt really expect a better result up to that phase of the race from Bottas
he didnt really perform the last races with rain
1:46
Russell is actually already spinning his tires. If you listen closely on a version with audio then you can hear him spinning
Lewis showing the young one's how to overtake...
Yup Master Lewis shows young paddleones how its done
@@hansolo2121 aren't you the delusional one...Lewis has won more races in 1 season then Maxine has his entire F1 career. So how is Maxine showing Lewis what and how???
Your comment aged horribly...
@@duraab27 but he undertook so your comment is irrelevant
Had been waiting for Palmer to give his analysis on this incident. Great video.
So basically there was no 'sudden movement' and Lord Russell fumbled it up on his own. Got it.
Yes just as he apologised for yesterday
Ocon > Feorge fussell
Rorge Grussell
the sudden move was the defense, wich russell understand as a dangerous move 'cause it was in wet conditions (gentleman agreement acording to his interviews) but not dangerous in dry
@@AllCatsAreBlack perhaps try to watch this whole video again, there was no sudden move.
There is one difference between Hamilton and Russell I missed from Jolyon here, but I think is worth mentioning.
Notice how Hamilton already steers back to the left while his car is still partly behind Norris' car (for the note: front left wheel still behind Norris' rear right wheel). While Russell only starts steering back to the left when he's car got completely out of the slipstream of Bottas (Russell's left front wheel on the righthandside of the rear right wheel of Bottas). Therefore, when Russell's car is alongside Bottas car, it's still pointing significantly towards the grass. While by steering earlier like Hamilton did, he managed to place the car much more in the direction of the track and parallel to Norris's car, having much more control of the placement of the car in that gap on the outside.
I think Russel got overexcited - he was worried that pulling out of the slipstream too early would lose him too much speed, so chose dangerous and fast method over safe and slightly slower. Hamilton was smart enough to not panic and to make sure to bring the car home - he learned how valuable concistency over raw speed is when battling Rosberg.
That is because Norris stopped moving right immediately and never went anywhere near a far over to the right. If he kept coming like Bottas we would have had the same result. It does not show what a better driver Hamilton is but how much better Norris is.
I always find it so amazing that we analyze decisions that F1 drivers making a split second over the course of about 10 minutes. They just think on a totally different level
Halo couldn't protect Bottas from the *smacc*
@@howdareyou41 I can agree that it was childish, but Bottas also gave him the finger when Russell went over there. Both of them were childish, but I don’t think it was as significant of an event to be givin a fine tbh
@@howdareyou41 jajan't
@@VanossGamingPlaylists the finger is not assault, the hit was
@@VanossGamingPlaylists Facts, also it's been worse in the past, drivers have shared punches in the gravel traps before (and, of course, how to forget Nelson Piquet at the Hockenheimring back in the 80s?), they both were childish in this case...
@@Pascaffa with Bottas’s helmet on, made to withstand a ton of force, I’m sure that even if Russell hit him with all his force, it would have been fine.
I think driver61 said it best, wet track or not, it's not bottas business, all he gotta do was defending within the rule margin. I might have worded that incorrectly.
@tommy Yeah, I'm not a racing driver, so I have no idea. Go watch driver61, he's a racing driver.
not surprised he and jolyon here came to pretty much the same conclusion
i like how they keep cutting to shots of his chest hair. they know what we want, and when we want it
Completely Russell’s fault - the accident was caused by Russell’s wheel going off track - there was ENOUGH space for him to stay on the outside line or back off if he was losing grip. Bottas was slightly inside but he is defending and has a right to to that - he left enough space and Russel got it all wrong
*Probably RUS' career low to this point.* I was quite negatively surprised by his insistence on continuing to rant and slate BOT instead of taking some time out to cool down and consider his own part. The move was never going to stick on the damp part of the track with BOT clearly needing room to hold the racing line heading into the left kink.
_For RUS, this episode, considering his conduct prior to the inevitable apology, was more embarrassing that crash behind the safety car at last year's event._
I'm normally 100% with Palmer but here I think what he fails to mention is that Bottas has so much more grip on the drier part of the track than Russell and as such has more responsibility for the outcome. He could see Russell going for the pass and he still put him out on the wet stuff at 320 km/h. Yes he left room but the room that he left wasn't really usable at those speeds. Russell went wider than he needed to because Bottas had already shown a blatant disregard for Russell's safety and how was Russell to know that he wasn't going to keep drifting wide?
It's easy to analyse this stuff with frame-by-frame slo-mo but it needs to be kept in mind that it all happened in milliseconds. Russell went for the pass because he had the speed to make the corner ahead of Bottas. Bottas put Russell into a position where the only outcome was an accident. He could have stayed left and they would both have made the corner. Just saying...
If you really think this was Russell's fault, you're either a Mercedes fanboy or you're just blatantly dumb
@@israel4101 Yeah you seem unbiased, we should listen to you.
@@Simon-gc6uf maybe you should go back and look at Kimi’s onboard (showing the amount of space bottas had on his left before the crash). Mind you that incident happened in less than a millisecond not in slow motion. Imagine having to decide within 0.5seconds how far right you should shift cause another driver wants to defend aggressively (very easy I guess). Or imagine if that was Mazpine defending that way, you all would have been calling for race ban by now. Well, I don’t have much to say, go look at kimi’s onboard. And why hasn’t Bottas onboard camera been released?
@@Shaun.Stephens "Bottas has so much more grip on the drier part of the track than Russell and as such has more responsibility for the outcome"
No he doesn't. It's Russell's choice to make the overtake. Nothing to do with Bottas. Russell went wider than he needed to because of his own mistake. Bottas was simply on the racing line but giving Russell enough space, he even darted to the left just before the crash. You're clueless.
did the halo save bottas from getting a wheel in his head?
yes but not from Russell's smack
100%
@@remy7663 true hahahah
@@remy7663 Nothing is safe from Russell's smack hahaha
I wish they had halo in 1994 as well.Senna would have been safe.
The fact Bottas was being challenged by a Williams. Dear me, nobody mentions how much Russell's car bottoms out before he loses control
Anybody realise how Russell's front left was going straight for Valterri's head? Halo totally stopped it, otherwise willaims probably would have gone right over that Merc! That halo does work!!
THANK YOU! Especially for the 6:17 clip
@John Citizen no.
@John Citizen no...
@John Citizen no
@John Citizen tf you on about no
@John Citizen there is only that straight with drs, so yeah its the same place
Russell is that Analyst who thinks he should be a VP after 1 year.
Why does the camera make this video look like a 2007 British chat show?
It’s the constant sweeps over Palmer’s chest hair...
@@legoking244 He needs to shave for next race!!! Lol🤣🤣
I don't know but I love it
Not just me that notice🤣
Remember when this guy had a shitshow of a season in F1?
Yeah me neither cuz he’s a legend on here
Russel was essentially driving himself off the track from the beginning.
I really enjoy Palmer's analysis , he touched nice points likewise Lando vs Hamilton battle in lap 60 . I'd like to see much more analysis like this one
Now I understand why people are saying how the halo did it's job again. That could have been game over for Bottas! Scary.
Thats why I hate Russels reaction, is he thinking that this a video game or what?
Reminder that Russell is still yet to beat a teammate in a season in F1
Qualifying comparison i guess something like 60-3😖
@@NOS2IeX qualifying has nothing to do with the standings. He has lost 2-0 against his teammates
@@diegovillavicencio3172 how has he lost 2-0 if he beat Latifi last year?
@@filipsihur6156 if you exclude his Mercedes weekend, Russell finished behind on the standings than Latifi, both with 0 points, but Latifi with a couple better results that gave him a higher position
Great analysis of the incident. The only thing missing is the analysis of why Russell ran his mouth even wider and let himself slipping in letting all know he, at this moment, considers himself entitled to Bottas' place. The question is: would Hamilton like to have such a hothead chasing his seat as team leader (re-edition of the Hamilton-Rosberg times, now with a careless driver) or, even worse, would Mercedes want to have a Bottas-Russell team-up if Lewis leaves, if this is what Russell has to offer? Russell will learn to judge better when to try to pass a car in front. That's a skill. Will he learn to respect his opponents? That's character and Russell has already shown one or two times with Latifi that he may not be the best of team mates.
0:24 :Russel catches Bottas
0:27 :Bottas Defends by moving to the right
0:28 :Russel tries to pass through and gets onto the grass
0:29 :Russel spins and hits Bottas
0:29 :Bottas's halo says hehe boi
7:45 :Toto bangs table
0:28 is when Russell actually catches Bottas.
Bottas is just committed to a dry line.
Russell's tires spin up before he is even NEAR the grass.
Russell spun on a wet patch on track not the grass.
@@alangbaker True, I think the OP meant "catching"
Well, Mr. Joylon is the best one, to teach you about fails and crashes in Formula 1
Great commentary. Great to see a comparison with other over takes and what was the racing line.
Racing incident, with 100% Russell to blame for causing it, he didn't do it on purpose, so there is no need for a penalty, but he misjudged it and needs to be more careful in such conditions, nothing else to add, if you still defend Russell after such a clear explanation, you are a fanboy blindly defending him..
This is not a Botts error 💚
Except from the fact that he was driving in P9, almost a lap down of his teammate to begin with.
I waited for this.
Jolyon delivered
I'm happy
"You have to leave a space, all the time you have to leave a space!" 6:42
how Hamilton can consistently drop out of top ten, then finish in top 3 is astounding
Well yeah when your buds create a yellow for you it gets very doable!
@@PlaySA Foolish
@@hansolo2121 Seriously tho... makes ya wonder 😒
@@hansolo2121 same tyres lol, maybe a lap or two newer at max. It's pure skill with luck, every driver has luck mate. Go cry somewhere else. :)
Ah classic Kimi. Always has a front row seat for crashes.
We were waiting this thanks!
Oops George what was that? You still need to learn a lot.
So cool that palmer now has a proper intro instead of that picture of him with a thousand yard stare
It certainly wasn't very flattering
George made a mistake and I'm fine with that, but his behaviour after the crash was pathetic.
Loving these jolyon analyses vids.
👍🏽👍🏽 always enjoy and appreciate Jolyon's analysis
Just the 2nd race and kimi has already seen one incident. This is the kimi's hobby since he is in alfa
After all the comments Russel made after the accident and the following day made me lose a huge amount of respect for him.
He's such a child.
You know that he later took back that statement and said it was his fault for the crash
@@midnmusic2217 Probably got pressured by some PR team.
@@senraXD we're talking about Russell, not Mazaspin
Absolute BEST analysis of this event. Every other pundit was blaming one driver over the other. It’s clear to me now that it’s a racing incident. George misjudged where the wet was by a few inches. Got to exploit the gaps. Great job, Jolyon!
my boy Jolyon Palmer, back at it again with analysis
Russel: "Why didn't he drive in the wet line to leave me 4 car spaces"
Also russel when driving driving on the wet line: *Immediately spins*
Eeek 😂
Russell always learns from his mistakes so this was a positive for him, in a sense.
I agree I feel like something like this needed to happen. He’ll come back stronger than ever
And some other has to pay his mistakes... not fair.
@@Pectopah123 what do you wanna do about it? Life isn't fair.
@@L.C.Sweeney Sorry for your life.
@@Pectopah123 it's true for yours too. I'm just happy I live in reality.
Great breakdown of the accident to help us non F1 drivers understand all the dynamics that were going on. ✅
Was waiting for this analysis 🤓
I’ve been waiting for this since the red flag!
Why is nobody talking about how Russell smacked Bottas’ helmet?
all i’ve seen on social media and twitter is people talking about this haha
because it didn't hurt Bottas
We've all seen a black man killed by a policeman kneeling on his neck for 9mins straight, and subsequently found guilty in a court of law. We can handle this.
He barely touched him.
@@arvindwee4634 A strike is a strike. A boxing ref would've scored a point is all I'm saying.
BRILLIANT!!! I really enjoyed this detailed review!!! THANK YOU!!!! THANK YOU!!! THANK YOU!!!
Well done Jolyon, love your insight and assessments
I thought Russell went over to check if Bottas was ok after such a big impact.
There was quite a bit of spark coming from the back of Russell's car right before he spun. Wonder what that was about.
modern f1 cars spark like that due to them bottoming out at high speed due to downforce, nothing wrong with his car
I was wondering the same thing. George has DRS open so there should be less downforce. My first thought was that something broke in the suspension or he got a puncture and that contributed to his problems. I guess the team will say if something like that happened.
@@weisz1836 That's why he lost it.
@@martinuso7446 It's not. The bottom of his car was just scraping the ground for whatever reason and modern F1 cars are designed to do that. They have a plate on the floor and it's regulated how much that plate can actually scrape.
My best guess is that the tyres were quite loaded from the turn, therefore squatting the right side of the car and causing it to bottom out a bit.
Whatever the cause for the bottoming out was, it certainly had nothing to do with Russell losing control.
@@bigmaclexa2981 When a car bottoms out it loses pressure on the rear wheels. The down force pressure is on the ground directly and not via the wheels. This makes the wheels spin much easier. Look at his steering wheel movements, he starts fighting the car from the moment he comes in clean air and starts bottoming out. Senna had the same problem in the same corner, he also bottomed out and lost the rear.
Thanks Jolyon, a cool headed analysis again
really great break down, thank you for this fine content
Russell had to be that guy... deflecting blame for his own mistakes quickly before anyone notices
Well he genuinely believe Bottas would squeeze him out. He should pass tighter and risk being hit - the blame would be obvious then.
@@pkundrat Yes, it would be obvious that it was Russell's mistake since such a crash would have happened with plenty of track space on Russell's right hand side.
@@pkundrat Yep, and basically, nobody would be hit, because Bottas would've left him the dry line, and he would be on the dry line passing Bottas, and all would be fine because he will lose that position back in 2 laps when Bottas' fresher and now warmed up mediums start pulling traction again.
6:14 the main difference here is Hamilton performs the overtake AFTER the curve, on a straighter road. Note the position of the dark green tree on the right and the whole pit lane line (it’s finished in the Hamilton video). Less natural “squeeze” due to less road curvature. Better judgement on where to pass.
I totally have to agree. Although I am by no means a Hamilton fan I have to give him respect for that overtake. He had twice the chance to overtake but he saw that Norris was just not giving him that tiny bit space enough which is why he waited unlike Russel. That crash wouldn't have happened with a more experienced Russel.
Great analysis! Keep em coming
Love these analysis....would want to see such analysis for all controversial things in the future
Bottas just drove the dry line.
if you think this was Bottas' fault, then you have never seen proper defending
When you watch it at full speed russel is forced to take that line. Neither fault but russel couldve avoided the crash by pulling out earlier, doesnt have enough time to react.
@@jacklister962 You don't go for that move when you know the conditions are very bad. And why even overtake in the first place? He is overtaking a Mercedes. Bottas is gonna overtake Russel the next lap or even a few turns later. Russel probably just needs more experience.
@@Ummba13 Why overtake, because of the clean air init
@@jacklister962 I believe if Russell didn't act the way he did after the race, in the interviews, none of this would have happened and people themselves would be like Bottas squeezed him on a wet track. What Bottas did was legal but since no one else crossed the white line I believe that Russell sees it as Bottas breaking an unspoken rule.
Great analysis. Thanks
excellent analysis thanks for sharing
So early and curious to see what he has to say about this
Russell apologied already!
@@junz8 no I meant Palmer's analysis🙂
@@ministig63ace yap! No doubt to me was Russell to blame for!
@@junz8 well it was a bit of both tbh.
@@ministig63acenorris did defend in the same way!
Look at how stable Lewis is with his wheel, then look at George.
Excellent analysis Mr Palmer - love these vids!
Best F1 analysis as always!!!!
Even though Russell is Palmers countryman, he keps his analysis objective and unbiased.