A Steel One Piece Garage Door
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- Building a 1 pc steel door out of a Wayne-Mark 8000 sectional.
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As a new homeowner I can totally appreciate your video as we have a garage door much like this and it won't stay up on its own and now I see why!..
Thks for the video. Its very good video for anybody that want to do DIY
Well explained adjustments - Thanks
Thank you very much for your video i have done so many installations of this products in our country, last August i supplied 60 units of holmes garage door in Pampanga for one motel project The Orchards Hotel, another 22 units this month at Paranque The project name is Asiatel Hotel
+Bernardo Parilla glad you enjoyed the video buddy, sounds like you have your hands full with plenty of work.
favorite video ever! Fascinating! Was searching for weatherstripping for 2 one piece tilt doors in Michigan; everyone says to replace them, that they are too dangerous. Double springs would definitely be safer. Can't afford 2 completely new doors installed. Will look into the hardware you used and company names mentioned. Thank you!
Yep your right, there are 3 holes in the main plate for various clearances the lower you go the worse it operates. I put one in with an inch and a half of clearance and the door literally comes straight back and then rises and bounces real hard, takes a rugged machine to pull that off. I have done this to insulated doors but only the doors with the pop in insulation...not the metal backed or foam injected doors. Next week I should have another video on a 1pc wood door build.
Love your attitude & work, keep it up!!!! Best Wishes form Your Southern Neighbour in Tijuana.
Thanks Vlad!! 👍🏽👍🏽
Normally the steel backed doors don't have stiles, just some small re-enforcing plates where the hinges go, plus they would be very heavy as well. Although for the guy that wanted one bad enough I'm quite sure it could be done, you might need HCJ-7 hdwr and some 528 or maybe even 328 springs. The aluminum braces in the back are indeed a 1pc door conversion kit sold by "Multi-Sales". And Matt, when it comes to 1pc doors...or even worse 1pc doors in low head position slower definitely is better.
Multisales is huge, even when we used to do a lot of genie's back in the 80's...genie recommended we buy from multisales instead of direct from genie because they were cheaper. 1pc steel doors are about the same as always we do about 10 a yr. !st United sandwich doors used to have full stiles but they went with the plates, I'm sure someone still uses stiles but not any of the brands I'm familiar with.
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He would make a good pirate. Arrgggg.
I remember Multi-Sales. My friend in Pasadena gets some of his stuff there too. So with them having a kit, is it safe to assume that these sectional conversions are becoming more common?
I didn't realise that about the sandwich doors. Does anyone make that type of door with full internal styles?
That Pro98 with the double carriage was in a condo building, and the garage next door had a MOM SafeGuard. That one never failed or ate its carriage, and moved MUCH slower. One reason I like the oldies.
I am looking to do this exact project to my garage door and was curious what you used for the end caps as well as your cross bracing. Could you possibly add your materials list into the description? Great video by the way, great step by step as you installed and adjusted the springs on either side. Keep up the great content!
Unfortunately I didn’t think of a materials list in the description and the video is quite old but we got the endcaps and bracing from a local door parts distributor called Multi-Sales. But any metal store would have 2” u-channel I’d imagine... you just might have to paint it.
I'm curious, why not use a steel back with injected polyurethane foam insulation? Wouldn't that make the door stronger? (Assuming the door has internal stiles.) Or are they just too heavy for this type of conversion?
Also, the framework you used in the conversion, is this a kit than you ordered, or is this something y'all fabbed in the shop?
On the low clearance settings, I think you'd have to have a slow operator too, or it'd tear the crap outta the door and hardware. Slower than Marantec.
Excellent tutorial bro thanks a ton. Freezer'
Thanks Freezer!!
Do you install these in LA area
Mike, thanks for the information. In my area of Va, most of the door contractors have little to no experience with single panel doors. I have just signed the contract for a house with a one piece garage door with significant rust on the contact edge to the ground and needing repairs. The door appears to be made of panels from a multi-section door attached to a frame and I was hoping to be able to replace just the bottom panel. This video shows that it can be done and the door can be completely replaced if needed.
One additional question; can you recommend a reference source for matching the door springs in an application and what information is needed? My spring set is in reasonable condition for the door as set, however I am considering insulating the door.
At 6:37 the door appears bowed - drooping left and right. Is that the camera lens or does that door flex that much?
The door is flexing because i'm lifting the middle with no springs on it.
No, there's a wall in the garage 5ft back.
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Nice! It's been too long since I've gotten to fool with Cali-1-piece hardware. There's one other adjustment on that hardware, that wasn't necessary here, and that's the adjustment of the cantilever arm to compensate for lower ceilings. I've seen one such adjustment. That door had a Genie Pro98 with a double carriage (which it ate annually) and ran like absolute crap. LOL!
Have you ever done this sectional to 1-piece conversion with an insulated door?
Is there anyway to add an automatic opener too?
Sure, you can do an opener as well if you have the clearance in the garage.
what is the cost of conversion kit and where is it available
The video is too old to remember the cost. I get the parts at multisales.
I'm curious what this option costs. My garage is - partially - about 5' deep as a previous owner cannibalized 1/2 the garage in favor of a kitchen enlargement. The old wooden door has to go and this looks like an excellent option for my situation. It's that or frame out that half of the opening and install a single car garage door.
I do believe this job was in the $1600.00 range. Give or take a hundred.
I install these in the bay area for about $1200 depending on the options and the garage itself. It might be cheaper if you live in other parts of the USA :).
@Kyle Sisco bay area?
This guy is the truth
Thanks Marvin!!
I have a question why do you not put the end stiles back on before you cap the ends seems like you would be leaving out a lot of structure and support. We also install these door all the time. I recommend to customers to always use the steel back doors. We have done a few pan doors but they are flimsy. A 2 car steel back door works fine with 4 P728's
Hi R&S, sometimes I do keep the end stiles on before adding the caps on some of the heavier doors but when I have the mfg build it for me (when I don't have time to do it myself) they never have the end stiles...only the endcap, so i'm 50/50 on that, I haven't noticed much difference either way, other than the part of the cap that wraps around the front is slightly away from the face of the door when the end stiles are on it as well. The waynemark 8000 has boxed stiles so I always leave those off so that when I attach the hardware arm I can add a nut to it, if I add the end stile I lose access to add the nut. Nobody down here will touch a steel back door as far as a 1pc conversion goes, most just go with the Styrofoam backed door and keep it light.
You did not show how the hardware attached to the metal door, lag screws or bolts?
Fine thread self tapping screws, because the fine thread will allow a nut to thread onto it just like a bolt.
Are there any issues with gaps (lack of proper seal) on the sides with the tilt up vs. sectional?
turboparadise Yes, there can be if the door is cut too narrow or if the garage frame is crooked.
All-Pro Quality Garage Doors Inc. doesn’t there have to be some gap on the sides of the tilt up garage door for it to function. Can a tilt up seal like a roll up garage door?
turboparadise there is a gap on each side but one piece doors have weather stripping on the sides as well that will take up that gap. The will not seal as well as a sectional door but they can be very close.
Very nice :-)
Why the heck would you use aluminum rivets in steel?
cost vs availability vs longevity. one piece steel manufacturer’s use em as well.
@@ALLProGarageDoors they're more expensive than steel and don't last an long, especially when used in steel... Steel rivets ate available at every hardware store or sheet metal supply house...
@@toadamine I’ve never seen a steel rivet…. ever. Doesn’t matter though cause no one makes 1pc doors anymore either.
@@ALLProGarageDoors every sheet metal shop uses steel rivets to joinsteel and alumminumm rivets only when joining aluminum because they're a lot more expensive and a third the strength...
@@toadamine Well they are dirt cheap here and plenty strong to hold panels together. I’ve got thousands of em.
Hello I need to make 1 door like that. What can a bars do you use or moldings you use to putting together. Please thank you
2" aluminum C channel
@@ALLProGarageDoors thank you
Nice video thank you so much
@@luisorgeta9151 No problem buddy! 👍🏽 good luck!
one more question, I called a place that will replace my garage door but he asking half the money out front is that normal.
Yes, it really is. These doors are custom made so requiring half down is normal.
You been a great help. Thank you
in ca the maximum down payment by law is 10% or $1,000, whichever is less. If your contractor is seeking more than this, they either lack credit or are not legitimate. Beware!
Man, this is click bait. I thought you were going to steel a garage door! I had never seen that done before.
How heavy did this end up being?
Not sure but lighter than wood.
I am looking for a 1 piece door just like this. How much
roughly 1700.00
@@ALLProGarageDoors I just send you my info through your website. I am in orange county. Can you service that area ?
Eric Eric Sorry we only go as far as oceanside
will the 900 hardware work on 8 by 8 door thanks
It's actually rated for doors 7'4" high, but on a single car door only 8 wide you might be able to pull it off. Someone makes hardware called LCJ8 which is designed for 8 ft high doors.
You ever get this working on the 8x8? I've been searching forever to find a solution for my single piece 8x8 but am coming up empty.
is this door heavier than a wooden door
Frijo1 no... much lighter than wood.
do you work in the los angeles area and if so whats is the cost for a 16 by 8 one piece steel door
Frijo1 no... we just stick to San Diego but it cost the homeowner about 1800.00 so atleast you'll have an idea on what they run.
Thank you . great job.
It's plywood with steel pieces that go across on the inside of the door can I send you a pic of it
On yourone piece wood door couldyouputa garage door opener on it
Absolutely, you have to be careful as to what machine but yea these doors can be operated by an opener.
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