@@the_takibo Can u explain your new keybindings pls?) I tried probably all combinations but always stuck with open strategem menu and no movement, seen that comment on previos video but still can find a way to make it work.
@@maximus_ted I think what he's talking about is binding up and down to the mouse wheel (up and down respectively) and then left and right would still be set to A and D. I have the stratagem menu set to press to open (as opposed to hold) bound to the arrow keys for the same reason, can tap ctrl once to open my stratagems and can continue to sprint while inserting commands with my mouse hand
@@maximus_ted it's a config bind change. if you search binding mouse5 to sprint + open stratagems, there is a forum post somewhere that goes over how to do it. you basically paste in some lines into the config how he says to do it and then your mouse side button opens up the stratagems pane + makes you sprint as well in the same button press, then you can do WASD with your other hand. I think it's important to bind holding mouse 4 (the rear side button) to just open stratagems without running forwards so you can call in stuff standing still as well.
solo-ing kind of makes it easier in a way as well. much easier to get around the map without a bunch of teammates shooting everything that moves XD when shit goes down you kind of wish you had some teammates though...
the scaling is always 4 players, the more players the easier, thats how it should be, having shit teammates isnt always a problem, just get friends to play with you
Solo, isn't that bad if you play smart. The main issue is sometimes you just get unlucky with the spawn and usually there is nothing you can do about it. Tldr, if you gonna attempt it don't expect a 100% completion rate.
Only thing that's bothersome is how the musical stings work. Newer players may use it as an alert that can tell them "Hey, you just been AGGRO'D tenderly" but you will RAPIDLY notice that doing stealthy things and sneaking between patrols, the fight music will start and stop depending on their alert level, and hearing it swing back up to fight music when you walk up a hill can make newer players play extra defensively and not keep moving. Understanding the difference between "Bots are shooting at my Democracy Parts" and "Bots are shooting where they THINK Liberty is" helps a lot in establishing the awareness you need for higher difficulties.
I agree. Obviously this would probably be difficult to implement, but they should try making a system like doom eternal has. Where there 3 levels of music. Light, heavy and super heavy tracks, Depending on the combat scenario. Light tracks would play for standard bot encounters, heavy would be for the more intense encounters like walkers, shield heavys and devastators. And the the super heavy tracks is when shit hits the fan and the entire roster of enemies (whether bugs or automatons) shows up and your fighting for your life. Doom eternals music system really made every encounter very memorable in my opinion. And I would love to see it added to helldivers 2
In case you're curious, the expression "Getting out of Dodge" comes from getting out of Dodge City. It's an old expression from the American West. (That's my understanding at least.)
Just did my first challenging solo automaton run and it was rough. I'm using almost everything you recommend but I'm also just grinding out the first war bond then so on and so on. Impact nades and the punisher for now and it's all surprisingly working but I do enjoy how immersed I feel when doing solo lol. Dying for sure makes you aware of what you did wrong too. Using the same stratagems as well but since I can't start a mission without a 4th strat I brought in airstrikes. Thanks for this video. Just made my life easier by watching you play and explain things. Knowledge is power.
When I first did Automatons I hated them, but after about 15 missions, plus watching you play, is making me utilize a different playstyle and now Automatons are much more manageable. Thanks for your work, the people of SuperEarth appreciate you!
I saw someone who blew up their ammo pods as soon as they landed everytime just to reduce the chance of dying to autoclimb if they need ammo during combat
the moment automatons lose sight of you they forget that you can move and will just walk and aim to where you used to be. You can have a tank on you, loop around a reasonably sized rock and flank it.
Definition of making it look easy. Thank you for the tips. I can see how automatons videos are less exciting than terminids, but I’m glad I watched this one. Shooting the floor/feet of kamikazes tip is a gem.
I like the knowledge gained from your vids; learning good tactics and load outs against each faction. The Live commentary feels better to learn from than standard tip&tricks videos but the tips videos provide good supplemental information for commentary vids. Each type of content layers nicely with one another.
Quick tip. If you start pinging the map and manage to find a side objective, the compass at the top of your screen will tell you what type of side objective it is. I find it great against bots since i can figure out where jammers, detectors, mortars, and anti airs are. Works great especially when you're a solo in a hurry.
Also if you are tired of the scout armor, the combat tech medium armor has the same perks including the POI cursor scan and looks great with the hero of the federation helmet.
does this let you know about sites of interest? like if i was running around trying to get samples medalions and super credits can i just ping around the map constantly to figure out where they are and grab them all? since i struggle with finding them and its about time i get enough samples for the double 500kg bomb upgrade.
Still trying to figure out my bot loadout. Love Scorcher + supply backpack. Means I need non-backpack support weapon. AMR seems nice. Backpack helps with weapons, nades, and stims. 50% explosion resistance armor is a must against getting oneshot. I'm still not convinced on rocket pods and 500kg for bots. Hard to hit targets. I prefer airstrike, railcanon, or laser. You're making me reconsider using stun grenades tho. Thanks for the vid!
Absolutely love the videos. So glad that you got recommended to me since just watching has significantly helped me with a number of things in this given how often I'm solo running. On the topic of which is more difficult, I feel like when people say, "Automatons are hard" it's because of a variety of things. The fact that stealth is more of the ideal play, which really doesn't sell well in a game with basically zero stealth stratagems or even marketing. The fact that you've got Devastators that you either need armor pen, which most guns don't have, or have to shoot for exposed areas whereas with bugs it's really only a couple that will bounce bullets and the main one you encounter that isn't a heavy is the hive guard. The fact that they shoot back, sometimes for days and days, and if you're not on a map with cover they'll potentially chase you across the whole map. Rockets that one shot you and sometimes go through terrain (or even just bots which will phase through terrain to chase or shoot you, or sometimes even shoot you from INSIDE terrain). A lack of anything like a bleed mechanic which you can get by like popping bile titan stomachs to have them slowly bleed out if you need to. All of this blends together into a lot of stuff that makes fighting them much more difficult for a lot of people. The big ones though are likely the instant kill rockets and all the armored enemies that you can't solo as easily. Like if a charger runs at you, you can dive out of the way then line up to blow its head off. If a hive guardian is walking towards you then you can toss grenades at it. Meanwhile if multiple Scout Strider walks up on you while you're solo your options are much more limited. If you don't have a weapon that punches through, or impact grenades, then you have to sprint up close and run circles to get shots off. Then there's Hulks which have a much smaller target you need to hit in their eye compared to a Charger's head, and they come in close/medium range flamer saw type and long range shoot you with lasers and rockets type, the latter of which requires you to take cover before they kill you with the rocket spam. And it's not exactly easy to run a ring around them as a solo to pop their backs. Then you've got Devastators that come in 3 types, one of which rockets you and another which sprays you with machine gun fire from behind a shield that will deflect heavy ordinance. It just doesn't play into the "Starship Troopers" fantasy that a lot of people buy into for the game given the up front terminids in the trailer and such, plus the fact that it feels like you can fight bugs even on harder difficulties whereas with bots the game heavily shifts into a totally different play style most people aren't a fan of.
When I was a noob I thought the automatons were way harder than the terminids. Until I got better. The automatons don’t rush you like the bugs do which makes them much easier as a solo.
Yeah people just start with Bugs and then when the fight bots thy get wrecked cause they dont use cover well. Bugs you gotta stay moving more cause they just throw numbers at you and always close the gap, but Bots are mostly positioning and Cover
i think when you start out, the weapons and strategems you have access to are more useful for bugs than bots even on the starting difficulties. shield devistators require headshots at a distance and they shoot at you to mess with your aim. while warriors can't hit you unless they get close, so you can at least aim for their weak points. and if they turtle up they don't move, so it makes it easy to take them out without taking any damage. so stalward/lmg + orbital strike + strafing run and the staring guns all being light armor penetration only.
@@vincentdeluca4485Hmm am i playing the same game ? bot's are mobing way more than bugs now for me and i play both usually... like sometimes i see 4-6 hulks + 3 tanks around.
@@Tamachii12 To me the bots are just easier to "contain" than the Bugs are, if the bots call for help i can just toss a strat when they land and completely shut down the wave. Bug holes are just fire hydrants lol it doesnt matter what you do they will just keep coming. They also just walk in a straight line at me if advancing at all, Bugs I gotta worry about Hunters circling around and Jumping/stun locking me. I dont care about the heavies much, Charger/Bile Titans are just as common and difficult to deal with as Hulks/Tanks imo.
@@Tamachii12 for me it’s the Hunters and the Pouncers as a solo. I just cannot deal with them for some reason. The only Automaton’s that really charge you are the berserkers and those kamikazi dudes that fly all up in your face. The other little guys that get close are extremely easy to deal with.
> "Let's make our way here to the CF Artillery. It should be quite useful to us. IF we remember to use it." (16:16) So true 😆always seems to slip my mind. Great runs and advice! Learning a lot from your solo plays.
Both factions are fun to watch to me, because I learn a LOT. I don't care about the action time because it's an objective based game. Thanks for your time creating this content and explaining your train of thought for every decision you make. Please keep it up!! Liked and subbed.
Fantastic gameplay, tips, and commentary. I’d imagine the automaton forces shaking in their boots hearing a solo Helldiver drop when your Capital ship is in orbit.
Some advice for when doing the SEAF Artillery: The enemies get "triggered" when you start a terminal. So you better collect the shells first and put them next to the artillery. After that you start the terminal and put the shells inside. Before the Bots/Bugs can get to you, you are already done and can vanish off.
I always try and tell my team to do that and they either argue about it or they just start the terminal and trigger the bugs. I always just leave em to it when they ignore me and they end up dying anyways 😭
Honestly I've tested this one pretty extensively and have found that that this is just placebo. The terminal does nothing for the enemy alertness. You can activate it without dealing with scout parties sometimes, and you can _not_ activate it but get scouts anyway. There's little to no correlation. I believe people just heard from word of mouth that the terminals alert enemies, and then let confirmation bias carry them the rest of the way.
This is incorrect, patrols always spawn on a timer can spawn when people die outside of the timer and the times you've noticed it aligning with pressing the terminal is pure coincidence. Before you disagree and get upset, open our map the next time you get to a seaf and press the terminal, look again there will be nothing there.
@@Zebo12345678 Can confirm I've used terminals less than 5 meters from enemies and they were not alerted, patrol spawns are increased while you're near side objectives iirc so the longer you're around the more enemies you'll see simple as, doesn't really matter how you do it just that you do it quick.
I don't find your automaton gameplay video bland at all because hearing your insights on your actions is actually very compelling. I hope you keep doing these rundown videos for automatons.
I like the Automaton vids because: 1 it is proof they can be done, and *solo* xD, 2 you will have those “oh shit” moments where everything goes to hell and chaos emerges. But in the end all the vids are epic, keep up the great content
Thank you! I have never played Helldive against the Automatons, but you made it look so easy. All the free trips are sure going to save us a lot of reinforcements :D
I'm excited to see more videos like this! I definitely don't think they're boring. Automatons are still very difficult in my book, so the more tips the better. Maybe playing different objectives? The aircraft control tower is so heavily guarded and throwing a 500lb on it doesn't seem to do the trick. Super tough. Great video!
I agree, once you understand how to fight the Automatons, they are the easier enemy. I like your Stun grenade choice - I went with the Impact grenade but rarely use them. Stunning the Hulks would be awesome! Great vid! 👍
Just got into the game a few days ago and am focused more on bots bc I find them a little more interesting rn and make solo play more viable since I had already noticed stealth to be a big factor when dealing with them. I learned so much from this video thank you so much. Personally I hope that they add a cloaking support backpack one day to for the covert ops type feel. I have so much fun being a rat running up to fabricators and just chucking grenades in them. If I had momentary invisibility I can be more of a menace than I already am. Thanks again for the video.
As someone affected by the connectivity issues and cannot play multiplayer, this video is helpful for playing higher difficulties solo so you have my thanks
It's crazy how different your gameplay is to what me and my friends experience. We see way more bots on the field, including a plethora of roaming bot scouts. We also get 2-3 drop ships per bot drop, while in this video you got 1 ship. We also have bots following us across the map, due to the soft alert bug. This had the feel of a much lower difficulty.
That was great, I learned a lot. Have to try the easy extract. You hardly used any strategems, or the SEAF Arty. One big lesson i learned recently, bugs and bots, is that you don't "need" to fight everything you see. You can just not engage, and you'll be better off.
I think I'm with you on this one. Bots are definitely easier to learn and deal with, but they're far more stressful and annoying for me than the bugs. If I want to sweat a little, I'll play bots, otherwise I'll chill with bugs and no major order can change my mind LOL
yeah bugs are a lot more "catharthic" when you just hold LMB and see dozens of them die. No need to worry about some single rocket devastator you didn't notice on the horizon turning you into bloody mist. And I just personally hate fighting bots on missions with onions. Even when they don't hit them it seems like if bots are aggro'd those stupid ass onions just turn into proximity mines and ragdoll you across half the map.
@@mathiasrryba exactly. I just get frustrated with bots lately... I can handle waves by running around rock formations or jungle, but it takes just one rocket mofo to ruin it. Especially when they see through smoke and sometimes even walls...
I agree with you regarding the Automaton vs. Terminid gameplay. Now, with that said I do no play this game the same way as you, I play a lot solo with random squads which implies when playing against the robots that you are forced into certain loadouts. For example; the autocannon is a must, taking up a backpack and support weapon slot. The bugs have more of a 'relaxed' meta which allows for trying out different fun loadouts like flamethrower, grenade launcher w/ support backpack, different stratagems etc.
autocannon is not a must. AMR is great vs bots, railgun works okayish. And you can take backpack with it. I think on lvl 8-9 both bugs and bots push you into certain loadouts due to enemy types and amount
It's mostly about weapons that can stagger a lot in each shot or weapons that deal explosive damage. You can skip autocannon and go with slugger if you're confident with your aiming since most bots can be one-tapped with a well placed slugger shot (heavy bugs are more susceptible to high pen damage from slugger as well btw). Also, you can go with a scorcher as well and save up the backpack slot for other utilities i.e. jetpack or shield backpack. Since Quasar cannon is now a thing, you can swap between it and autocannon depending on your preferences and playstyle basically. I tried my bots loadout on bugs mission and vice versa. They're doable most of the time tho some missions may need a different approach.
I kinda like arc thrower vs bots. You can kill every enemy with it, including tanks and hulks. Hulks take around 8-10 shots. Its not the most reliable way to handle the heavies, but it works. Kills Striders easily, and can clear out bot drops as they land. The infinite ammo is very useful, and you can fire it around cover if you aim it right. You dont need to aim at the enemy for it to hit them, which is what lets you shoot around cover. Means you can wait for them to come to you, and kill them before they can even fire back. Doesnt work so well on "eliminate automaton forces" missions, "evacuate essential personnel" missions, or "Blitz: Search and Destroy" missions because you get swarmed so heavily on those missions, and the melee berzerker enemies will close the gap and flush you out of your cover.
Autocannon is fantastic but have you tried the quasar? Running missions while it was free let me explore some stratagem options whenever I died and dropped far from my quasar while it's on cooldown. Plus the vast majority of bots can be killed with your primary by aiming at weak spots. Quasar can kill cannon turrets, mortars, hulks, tanks, dropships by aiming at the engine, striders, etc
You got to Aim a little higher on the hulks weak spot. I think its bugged at the moment so because of that if you go slightly higher it'll land more consistently. I know this because I mainly use the laser cannon against bots so you start to get very familiar with where exactly the weak spots are on the bots.
gonna be brutally honest. at first i thought this was just another clickbait garbage video with someone talking about what they feel is best/the way to go, without showing/proving anything, but i felt pleasantly surprised within the first 6 minutes that actually included worthwhile information while also showcasing and providing proof that the information isn't just some feeling. good stuff
I think that’s precisely why there should be more automaton content. There’s a lot of people that think automatons are harder because there’s less content explaining how to fight them than there’s terminid content.
Dunno if you recall the game Z, an oldschool RTS. The bots used to go fishing at watering holes if you left them alone for a while. Seems like the Automatons are their descendants, lots of fishing events with them gathering around watering holes
The slugger also works, breaks most small map objects too if they're in the way, like the 2 boxes on a ramp at the end of the wall in that one SEAF Artillery layout
One, I think the game balances based on how many players are in the mission; but two, there are whole videos on how the game ramps up dropship and bug breach spawns as you complete either primary or secondary objectives (I forget which).
Just want to let you know that you're my favorite helldiver! Thank you for your videos! I'm learning a lot just by watching. Taki, is it cool if you upload videos on how to deal with different objectives while solo. Like that jammer and detect towers. For some reason everytime I do it, I always get swarm by bots and there's always multiple drops. If I'm unlucky drops will have tanks. New to the game, but I want to learn solo hunting just like. Accept me as your Padawan, master taki!
I put my strategems on the arrow keys next to the number pad. I can keep moving while I input the strategem extremely quickly. The bots require a more deliberate strategy to keep them at range. If they get up close to you enmass you are dead. I'm impressed at how clean you run with extremely few bot drop ships. Last round we were having 2-5 showing up at a time.
Id love to see a senator only challenge. Whatever grenades and strategems you want. But no primary or support weapons. I tried going cowboy, but it was a bit too much for me.
the only solo helldive automatons ive done is destroy airbases and i used the orbital laser to make it easy. stealth is definitely the way to do it too. i dont see other people go against the bots and this is why you are the prime example in my book of how to solo helldive
Helldivers are even scarier when you realize their general attack plan is to send 4 dudes against a whole army and that shit is just another Tuesday for those guys.
I'm using the Breaker Incendiary for now, DoTs are awesome and I don't have you fancy Scorcher yet. Also sometimes when I need to clear a path, I toss a grenade as far as I can at my flank and these bots will go over there like a bunch of dumbs. It's amazing how close you can get to them without them even noticing you cause "they've got a noise complaint". And I love using the P-19 sidearm versus the cannon fodder bots, it makes less noise and saves on big gun ammo
I've noticed I was playing all wrong as well, holding my ground as some kind of "badass" only to get overwhelmed. Bots got one thing going for them and that's mobilization using their movement speed and of course those damn dropships. Guerilla warfare by being evasive and using distractions so they've got no clue where you are is the way to go
Somehow the bots keep aggro on me from HUNDREDS of metres away, doesnt matter if i break line of sight, go prone, run around mountains, use smoke. I had a game the other day that a full patrol was shooting at me from miles away, and tracking me through cover consistently. Sometimes they just look at where you were seen last, but id say 1 in 4 times they just permanent aggro on me. Super frustrating.
What armor U use? I would guess heavy. Had same problem. Try scout on light 30% less range detection. And also 450movement vs 550 dose not look alot, but it is. also stamina regen is more than double (heavy vs light) So you lose protection, but you zoom zoom so fast that only random rocket blows you away.
I get this even using scout armor... which is why I'm perpetually confused by T9 solo footage lacking any such occurrence... unable to lose aggro from a group even if running smokes or moving from cover to cover. The other occurrence tends to be a bot behind cover instantly snitching as soon as I engage a static group on an objective. Omniscient enemies aren't fun to play against.
There’s a video explaining this. Basically it’s “soft aggro” where aggro’d bots will keep shooting at your last know occasion till they die or de spawn. If you are in their line of sight (I think regardless of direction they’re facing) they will aggro onto you and shoot at you.
@@Some-q1 I'm saying they keep aggro even after going behind several mountains, buildings and breaking kine of sight over and over. Running many metres away and they just keep coming. And or shooting through cover. They know where you are, so certain cover is not breaking aggro
On the Quasar part, it's worth noting that it can oneshot hulks and make easy work of tanks and turrets, given you've got a good distance between you and your target. Autocannon's biggest cons is you have to crouch still while reloading which may be detrimental if you tend to move and retreat a lot. Stun grenade effect lasts ~2 seconds. It may sound not so much, but you can use that 2 seconds to run around stunned hulk and rip the batteries on its back apart with your primary weapon. Excellent run btw. Keep up the good work!
It's actually refreshing how different the playstyles are between bugs and bots. I started bots only, and so got confident and switched to bugs; It was rough at first and then felt fine, only recently switched back to bots to help the push but holy a 4 on bots was feeling like a 7 on bugs. Only lvl 25 so plenty of democracy learning and spreading to go. First time i've seen that primary and now have a new goal weapon.
I believe they gave the order for the Creek because people were already on it and getting raged at in the forums for ignoring the other major order. They did this to do away with that problem.
Autocannon for striders is one shot to the hip. Also, the grenade launcher one shots striders. I've taken out two striders side by side with a single GL to the front panel of one of them. The Sickle melts most of them up to hulks as a good alternate. Use your autocannon on drop ships as they come in, aim at the stowage area where the bots are dangling. Splash the small guys for easy kills and soften up medium/heavy units. SOMEtimes the medium units will kind of get stunned if you damage them, and when they land they'll just stand there for a few. And I bound my keys to the arrow keys ;)
I'm glad that so many loadouts work against bots. Personally I hate taking the auto-cannon since it takes up both a support and a backpack slot. But groups work so much better together when there's some variability in their kits. Yesterday I joined a game and both people on my team brought the quasar, so I told them that the first one of them to die was going to be looted by me- cause daddy needs a quasar! All 3 of us chaining shots at cannon turrets was magnificent.
I love using the anti-mat rifle with a jetpack, get up on some tall rock and just snipe away in peace. The most they can do is ragdoll you from the splash of the rockets but you can just jump back up. The jetpack also lets you throw stratagems really far, and also get away fast from stratagems, so you can do both of these: snipe objectives with a 500kg, or throw one ON YOURSELF and instantly gain 50m of distance with a single jump.
I used to take the AC all the time, but after I unlocked the Railgun I took that instead. The free back slot opens up so much more utility, especially if you want to primary mobility like the Jetpack.
A couple of silly little tips that I found out while I was learning the game: 7:30 Autocannon is one of the weapons that can break through those crates, so unless you're using it on every single enemy, it's very easy (and pretty worth it imo) to burn a shot on them and collect some nifty loot. :D 10:57 If you're struggling against Heavy Devastators, I've actually found that the grenade launcher is pretty good against them, especially if you struggle with precise aiming. It's able to consistently stagger and kill one with three shots, no matter where you hit. It might fall off at higher difficulties, though, so maybe take this tip with a grain of salt. :P 20:48 Remember that the artillery cannon is not just for XP. If you load up an artillery cannon, then you can use it, and it will almost always prove to be very useful. 21:28 It's very useful to know that you can very easily destroy the broadcast towers with any decently strong explosion, which saves you the hassle of dealing with the reinforcements caused by using the terminal. Even a simple grenade can easily destroy it.
Here are a couple of things I’ve found in my experience. The auto cannon can be used to open POI crates and can stun locks and 2-3 shot heavy devastators.
my biggest tip against heavy devastators: aim for the gun arm. it's extremely weak and the flinch will prevent it from shooting at you. once the arm breaks off, he's completely not a threat and you can focus on the higher priority enemies
Personally love the technical challenge the automatons give and love seing ppl introduce me to new ways to deal w them, i figured out the autocannon but i sometimes get overwhelmed
tbh for bots i REALLY like the diligence. having another weapon good at striders is nice, but really you already have the autocannon. diligence is just fantastic at cleaning up trash bots.
I also love the diligence for automatons. I would use the plasma but I love having a scope too much... BTW That container door could have been busted by your auto cannon since it has splash.
Yeah they are crazy overtuned for whatever reason, 7-9 there is a 90% chance you fail unless everyone on the team is is setup perfectly and playing at the top of their game. That of you cheese it lol
31:40 for the question, what i (as a viewer) would prefer watching: I would prefer watching, depending on what the grand orders are. if we have to fight Bots then i would like to see a video where you fight Bots aswell. I get a lot of information on playstyle, and choosing a loadout depending on the faction from an experienced player and that helps a lot for my helldives
Tips vs heavy devastators if you can get behind cover peek to the right since they have the machine gun on the right if you peek out just enough you can shoot the head and they cant aim at you. If your a teammate you can help even with the sickle to take out the heavies machine gun arm so the person getting pinned can finish the job it does take a good ammo dump but can be done or hit the back pack if you have an angle.
GREAT TO SEE HELLDIVERS AIDING FELLO HELLDIVERS FIGHTING AGAINST THE AUTOMATON THREAT! GLORY TO SUPER EARTH, AND TO MY BROTHERS IN THE DROP PODS, GODSPEED!
amazing video as always. one question, what do you mean about keybinding to the mouse so you can still run while calling stratagems? i stil see you are using wasd, how can you move?
you can bind the strategem inputs to your mouse, just can't be buttons that conflict with actions that cancel stratagem input, such as ADS and primary Fire. Something like a 4-way input mouse wheel could work great. You could also do something like use strafe left/right combined with mousewheel up/down, so that you can continue pressing W to more forward while entering in the strategems.
it looks like he has his stratagems macro'd to a single mouse click but i'm not sure. for me, rebinding to 'press' instead of 'hold' + WASD to arrow keys works fine for running and gunning
WIth some config edit you can bind strategem menu + move forward to the same key, preferably a side mouse button, so when you hold that button you open strategem menu and move forward at the same time, then using wasd as strategem input.
I don’t know if you know about this but if you use Q to ping an objective at any distance, it will permanently mark it on the map as if you walked over to it
Amazing lesson on how to git gud against the bots! If I may suggest a possible audio improvement to your mic's signal, I'd play around with removing subs (
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@@the_takibo Can u explain your new keybindings pls?) I tried probably all combinations but always stuck with open strategem menu and no movement, seen that comment on previos video but still can find a way to make it work.
@@maximus_ted I think what he's talking about is binding up and down to the mouse wheel (up and down respectively) and then left and right would still be set to A and D. I have the stratagem menu set to press to open (as opposed to hold) bound to the arrow keys for the same reason, can tap ctrl once to open my stratagems and can continue to sprint while inserting commands with my mouse hand
@@maximus_ted it's a config bind change. if you search binding mouse5 to sprint + open stratagems, there is a forum post somewhere that goes over how to do it. you basically paste in some lines into the config how he says to do it and then your mouse side button opens up the stratagems pane + makes you sprint as well in the same button press, then you can do WASD with your other hand. I think it's important to bind holding mouse 4 (the rear side button) to just open stratagems without running forwards so you can call in stuff standing still as well.
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if youre out here doing solo automatons i guess i have no excuse, thanks for the tips
solo-ing kind of makes it easier in a way as well. much easier to get around the map without a bunch of teammates shooting everything that moves XD
when shit goes down you kind of wish you had some teammates though...
the scaling is always 4 players, the more players the easier, thats how it should be, having shit teammates isnt always a problem, just get friends to play with you
Soloing is easy once you understand map heat, what increases it, and spawn mechanics.
Solo, isn't that bad if you play smart.
The main issue is sometimes you just get unlucky with the spawn and usually there is nothing you can do about it.
Tldr, if you gonna attempt it don't expect a 100% completion rate.
@mramongs2231 Just get friends lol. Just stop being poor and just get with hotties as well. Easy af bro.
10:11 auto cannon can break fences, so can slugger if your shoot the poles of the fence. Great video as always.
it can open the blue and orange containers as well if you only have stun nades
Slugger got nerfed now, no more crate opening.
The autocannon can also take out fabricators if you ping it against the top flaps.
And the Autocannon can destroy Striders with a single shot if you shoot them right in the middle. Just above its legs and right below the top part
Only thing that's bothersome is how the musical stings work. Newer players may use it as an alert that can tell them "Hey, you just been AGGRO'D tenderly" but you will RAPIDLY notice that doing stealthy things and sneaking between patrols, the fight music will start and stop depending on their alert level, and hearing it swing back up to fight music when you walk up a hill can make newer players play extra defensively and not keep moving.
Understanding the difference between "Bots are shooting at my Democracy Parts" and "Bots are shooting where they THINK Liberty is" helps a lot in establishing the awareness you need for higher difficulties.
I agree. Obviously this would probably be difficult to implement, but they should try making a system like doom eternal has.
Where there 3 levels of music. Light, heavy and super heavy tracks, Depending on the combat scenario.
Light tracks would play for standard bot encounters, heavy would be for the more intense encounters like walkers, shield heavys and devastators. And the the super heavy tracks is when shit hits the fan and the entire roster of enemies (whether bugs or automatons) shows up and your fighting for your life.
Doom eternals music system really made every encounter very memorable in my opinion. And I would love to see it added to helldivers 2
that last sentence is gold
I think this is showing me I dive too much, i'm always ragdolled on the ground from diving onto weird terrain. clean gameplay as always 👻👍
you can never dive enough XD
Just look were you are diving to
Yeh that shit is so fkn annoying. Especially when ur ragdol animation is blocking ur mashing of the stim button 😂
Another thing to note is that light armor make you go zoom.
I love jumping from high terrain or buildings and turning myself into a scorpion.
I see being "In Dodge" remains your greatest fear, I respect how often you get the heck out of it.
In case you're curious, the expression "Getting out of Dodge" comes from getting out of Dodge City. It's an old expression from the American West. (That's my understanding at least.)
This comment is hilarious and needs more upvotes! 😆
I take offense to this
Just did my first challenging solo automaton run and it was rough. I'm using almost everything you recommend but I'm also just grinding out the first war bond then so on and so on. Impact nades and the punisher for now and it's all surprisingly working but I do enjoy how immersed I feel when doing solo lol. Dying for sure makes you aware of what you did wrong too. Using the same stratagems as well but since I can't start a mission without a 4th strat I brought in airstrikes. Thanks for this video. Just made my life easier by watching you play and explain things. Knowledge is power.
Keeping it cool and calm while casually running on difficulty 9. Advice and tips worked great, definitely worth the sub man, keep it up!
When I first did Automatons I hated them, but after about 15 missions, plus watching you play, is making me utilize a different playstyle and now Automatons are much more manageable. Thanks for your work, the people of SuperEarth appreciate you!
I’ve died to auto climbing more times than I’d like to admit
what do you mean? climbing the resupply pod is meta
Climing over a fence right next to the opening in said fence is the more Democratic way!
I saw someone who blew up their ammo pods as soon as they landed everytime just to reduce the chance of dying to autoclimb if they need ammo during combat
@@svn5510 that will also make the ammo show up on the map
@@Magnusficationdiddnt even know resupplys had an icon, nice
the moment automatons lose sight of you they forget that you can move and will just walk and aim to where you used to be. You can have a tank on you, loop around a reasonably sized rock and flank it.
Definition of making it look easy. Thank you for the tips. I can see how automatons videos are less exciting than terminids, but I’m glad I watched this one. Shooting the floor/feet of kamikazes tip is a gem.
I like the knowledge gained from your vids; learning good tactics and load outs against each faction. The Live commentary feels better to learn from than standard tip&tricks videos but the tips videos provide good supplemental information for commentary vids. Each type of content layers nicely with one another.
Congrats on level 50 takibo, you have maintained our way of life.
Quick tip. If you start pinging the map and manage to find a side objective, the compass at the top of your screen will tell you what type of side objective it is. I find it great against bots since i can figure out where jammers, detectors, mortars, and anti airs are. Works great especially when you're a solo in a hurry.
Thx for the mention. I’m always too busy staying alive guess I never noticed this.
Also if you are tired of the scout armor, the combat tech medium armor has the same perks including the POI cursor scan and looks great with the hero of the federation helmet.
@@leviboleythe scout armor is also about stamina, that’s why it’s used instead of medium ones. ;)
does this let you know about sites of interest? like if i was running around trying to get samples medalions and super credits can i just ping around the map constantly to figure out where they are and grab them all? since i struggle with finding them and its about time i get enough samples for the double 500kg bomb upgrade.
@@littlecreeper8543 yeah it does. if you hover over an area it can say minor place of interest.
Still trying to figure out my bot loadout. Love Scorcher + supply backpack. Means I need non-backpack support weapon. AMR seems nice.
Backpack helps with weapons, nades, and stims. 50% explosion resistance armor is a must against getting oneshot.
I'm still not convinced on rocket pods and 500kg for bots. Hard to hit targets. I prefer airstrike, railcanon, or laser.
You're making me reconsider using stun grenades tho.
Thanks for the vid!
I love the major order taking us to the automatons, it feels like a whole new game after getting to lvl 35 with mostly bug missions
Perfect timing given the absolute scope of this latest major order. Thanks for the tips!
Absolutely love the videos. So glad that you got recommended to me since just watching has significantly helped me with a number of things in this given how often I'm solo running.
On the topic of which is more difficult, I feel like when people say, "Automatons are hard" it's because of a variety of things. The fact that stealth is more of the ideal play, which really doesn't sell well in a game with basically zero stealth stratagems or even marketing. The fact that you've got Devastators that you either need armor pen, which most guns don't have, or have to shoot for exposed areas whereas with bugs it's really only a couple that will bounce bullets and the main one you encounter that isn't a heavy is the hive guard. The fact that they shoot back, sometimes for days and days, and if you're not on a map with cover they'll potentially chase you across the whole map. Rockets that one shot you and sometimes go through terrain (or even just bots which will phase through terrain to chase or shoot you, or sometimes even shoot you from INSIDE terrain). A lack of anything like a bleed mechanic which you can get by like popping bile titan stomachs to have them slowly bleed out if you need to. All of this blends together into a lot of stuff that makes fighting them much more difficult for a lot of people.
The big ones though are likely the instant kill rockets and all the armored enemies that you can't solo as easily. Like if a charger runs at you, you can dive out of the way then line up to blow its head off. If a hive guardian is walking towards you then you can toss grenades at it.
Meanwhile if multiple Scout Strider walks up on you while you're solo your options are much more limited. If you don't have a weapon that punches through, or impact grenades, then you have to sprint up close and run circles to get shots off. Then there's Hulks which have a much smaller target you need to hit in their eye compared to a Charger's head, and they come in close/medium range flamer saw type and long range shoot you with lasers and rockets type, the latter of which requires you to take cover before they kill you with the rocket spam. And it's not exactly easy to run a ring around them as a solo to pop their backs. Then you've got Devastators that come in 3 types, one of which rockets you and another which sprays you with machine gun fire from behind a shield that will deflect heavy ordinance.
It just doesn't play into the "Starship Troopers" fantasy that a lot of people buy into for the game given the up front terminids in the trailer and such, plus the fact that it feels like you can fight bugs even on harder difficulties whereas with bots the game heavily shifts into a totally different play style most people aren't a fan of.
When I was a noob I thought the automatons were way harder than the terminids. Until I got better. The automatons don’t rush you like the bugs do which makes them much easier as a solo.
Yeah people just start with Bugs and then when the fight bots thy get wrecked cause they dont use cover well. Bugs you gotta stay moving more cause they just throw numbers at you and always close the gap, but Bots are mostly positioning and Cover
i think when you start out, the weapons and strategems you have access to are more useful for bugs than bots even on the starting difficulties. shield devistators require headshots at a distance and they shoot at you to mess with your aim. while warriors can't hit you unless they get close, so you can at least aim for their weak points. and if they turtle up they don't move, so it makes it easy to take them out without taking any damage. so stalward/lmg + orbital strike + strafing run and the staring guns all being light armor penetration only.
@@vincentdeluca4485Hmm am i playing the same game ? bot's are mobing way more than bugs now for me and i play both usually... like sometimes i see 4-6 hulks + 3 tanks around.
@@Tamachii12 To me the bots are just easier to "contain" than the Bugs are, if the bots call for help i can just toss a strat when they land and completely shut down the wave. Bug holes are just fire hydrants lol it doesnt matter what you do they will just keep coming. They also just walk in a straight line at me if advancing at all, Bugs I gotta worry about Hunters circling around and Jumping/stun locking me.
I dont care about the heavies much, Charger/Bile Titans are just as common and difficult to deal with as Hulks/Tanks imo.
@@Tamachii12 for me it’s the Hunters and the Pouncers as a solo. I just cannot deal with them for some reason. The only Automaton’s that really charge you are the berserkers and those kamikazi dudes that fly all up in your face. The other little guys that get close are extremely easy to deal with.
> "Let's make our way here to the CF Artillery. It should be quite useful to us. IF we remember to use it." (16:16)
So true 😆always seems to slip my mind.
Great runs and advice! Learning a lot from your solo plays.
Ooooh the scorcher! I just picked it up a few days ago finally and it's awesome
Same. It's strange though seeung so many in forums calling it trash, I dont get it.
@@ramrod1016Let them keep spreading that misinfo and not realizing its potential, keeps the devs from nerfing it 👍
Both factions are fun to watch to me, because I learn a LOT. I don't care about the action time because it's an objective based game. Thanks for your time creating this content and explaining your train of thought for every decision you make. Please keep it up!! Liked and subbed.
Bro you deserve more subs your content is legendary man. Love to see a devoted creator :)
Fantastic gameplay, tips, and commentary.
I’d imagine the automaton forces shaking in their boots hearing a solo Helldiver drop when your Capital ship is in orbit.
Some advice for when doing the SEAF Artillery: The enemies get "triggered" when you start a terminal. So you better collect the shells first and put them next to the artillery. After that you start the terminal and put the shells inside. Before the Bots/Bugs can get to you, you are already done and can vanish off.
I always try and tell my team to do that and they either argue about it or they just start the terminal and trigger the bugs. I always just leave em to it when they ignore me and they end up dying anyways 😭
Yep
Honestly I've tested this one pretty extensively and have found that that this is just placebo. The terminal does nothing for the enemy alertness. You can activate it without dealing with scout parties sometimes, and you can _not_ activate it but get scouts anyway. There's little to no correlation.
I believe people just heard from word of mouth that the terminals alert enemies, and then let confirmation bias carry them the rest of the way.
This is incorrect, patrols always spawn on a timer can spawn when people die outside of the timer and the times you've noticed it aligning with pressing the terminal is pure coincidence. Before you disagree and get upset, open our map the next time you get to a seaf and press the terminal, look again there will be nothing there.
@@Zebo12345678 Can confirm I've used terminals less than 5 meters from enemies and they were not alerted, patrol spawns are increased while you're near side objectives iirc so the longer you're around the more enemies you'll see simple as, doesn't really matter how you do it just that you do it quick.
I'm glad I watched this video all the way through. I definitely learned a lot. Thanks for the video!
I don't find your automaton gameplay video bland at all because hearing your insights on your actions is actually very compelling. I hope you keep doing these rundown videos for automatons.
What keybinds do you have for your strategems? And how do you sprint with the map showing? Great video btw
I like the Automaton vids because: 1 it is proof they can be done, and *solo* xD, 2 you will have those “oh shit” moments where everything goes to hell and chaos emerges. But in the end all the vids are epic, keep up the great content
Thank you! I have never played Helldive against the Automatons, but you made it look so easy. All the free trips are sure going to save us a lot of reinforcements :D
I'm excited to see more videos like this! I definitely don't think they're boring. Automatons are still very difficult in my book, so the more tips the better. Maybe playing different objectives? The aircraft control tower is so heavily guarded and throwing a 500lb on it doesn't seem to do the trick. Super tough. Great video!
the game feels so easy with you, and I don't know why but your videos are very relaxing to me but also very instructive.
I agree, once you understand how to fight the Automatons, they are the easier enemy.
I like your Stun grenade choice - I went with the Impact grenade but rarely use them. Stunning the Hulks would be awesome!
Great vid! 👍
This is the perfect video for me to watch right now. Scorcher + autocannon
Just got into the game a few days ago and am focused more on bots bc I find them a little more interesting rn and make solo play more viable since I had already noticed stealth to be a big factor when dealing with them. I learned so much from this video thank you so much. Personally I hope that they add a cloaking support backpack one day to for the covert ops type feel. I have so much fun being a rat running up to fabricators and just chucking grenades in them. If I had momentary invisibility I can be more of a menace than I already am.
Thanks again for the video.
Your spread of managed democracy both in Los Suenos and for Super Earth, is greatly admired!
As someone affected by the connectivity issues and cannot play multiplayer, this video is helpful for playing higher difficulties solo so you have my thanks
For real man, best Helldivers game play channel hands down.
Keep in mind, you're playing a night mission and there might even be fog on this planet. Both of those are going to reduce enemy detection radius.
He's also wearing scout armor passive which further reduces visibility by 30% especially when prone
...in theory. Enemy detection debuffs don't seem to be working for everybody
you're a bloody legend mate
I appreciate that you let democracy be your shield rather than than the shield pack. Auto cannon delivers managed democracy in spades
It's crazy how different your gameplay is to what me and my friends experience. We see way more bots on the field, including a plethora of roaming bot scouts. We also get 2-3 drop ships per bot drop, while in this video you got 1 ship. We also have bots following us across the map, due to the soft alert bug. This had the feel of a much lower difficulty.
That was great, I learned a lot. Have to try the easy extract. You hardly used any strategems, or the SEAF Arty. One big lesson i learned recently, bugs and bots, is that you don't "need" to fight everything you see. You can just not engage, and you'll be better off.
5:03 You sounded like me when I yell lmao, caught me so off guard
I think I'm with you on this one. Bots are definitely easier to learn and deal with, but they're far more stressful and annoying for me than the bugs. If I want to sweat a little, I'll play bots, otherwise I'll chill with bugs and no major order can change my mind LOL
yeah bugs are a lot more "catharthic" when you just hold LMB and see dozens of them die. No need to worry about some single rocket devastator you didn't notice on the horizon turning you into bloody mist. And I just personally hate fighting bots on missions with onions. Even when they don't hit them it seems like if bots are aggro'd those stupid ass onions just turn into proximity mines and ragdoll you across half the map.
@@mathiasrryba exactly. I just get frustrated with bots lately... I can handle waves by running around rock formations or jungle, but it takes just one rocket mofo to ruin it. Especially when they see through smoke and sometimes even walls...
I agree with you regarding the Automaton vs. Terminid gameplay. Now, with that said I do no play this game the same way as you, I play a lot solo with random squads which implies when playing against the robots that you are forced into certain loadouts. For example; the autocannon is a must, taking up a backpack and support weapon slot. The bugs have more of a 'relaxed' meta which allows for trying out different fun loadouts like flamethrower, grenade launcher w/ support backpack, different stratagems etc.
autocannon is not a must. AMR is great vs bots, railgun works okayish. And you can take backpack with it. I think on lvl 8-9 both bugs and bots push you into certain loadouts due to enemy types and amount
It's mostly about weapons that can stagger a lot in each shot or weapons that deal explosive damage.
You can skip autocannon and go with slugger if you're confident with your aiming since most bots can be one-tapped with a well placed slugger shot (heavy bugs are more susceptible to high pen damage from slugger as well btw). Also, you can go with a scorcher as well and save up the backpack slot for other utilities i.e. jetpack or shield backpack.
Since Quasar cannon is now a thing, you can swap between it and autocannon depending on your preferences and playstyle basically.
I tried my bots loadout on bugs mission and vice versa. They're doable most of the time tho some missions may need a different approach.
I kinda like arc thrower vs bots. You can kill every enemy with it, including tanks and hulks. Hulks take around 8-10 shots. Its not the most reliable way to handle the heavies, but it works. Kills Striders easily, and can clear out bot drops as they land. The infinite ammo is very useful, and you can fire it around cover if you aim it right. You dont need to aim at the enemy for it to hit them, which is what lets you shoot around cover. Means you can wait for them to come to you, and kill them before they can even fire back.
Doesnt work so well on "eliminate automaton forces" missions, "evacuate essential personnel" missions, or "Blitz: Search and Destroy" missions because you get swarmed so heavily on those missions, and the melee berzerker enemies will close the gap and flush you out of your cover.
Autocannon is fantastic but have you tried the quasar? Running missions while it was free let me explore some stratagem options whenever I died and dropped far from my quasar while it's on cooldown. Plus the vast majority of bots can be killed with your primary by aiming at weak spots. Quasar can kill cannon turrets, mortars, hulks, tanks, dropships by aiming at the engine, striders, etc
Laser Cannon and shield backpack work for me. Paired with the slugger and stuns grenades.
You got to Aim a little higher on the hulks weak spot. I think its bugged at the moment so because of that if you go slightly higher it'll land more consistently. I know this because I mainly use the laser cannon against bots so you start to get very familiar with where exactly the weak spots are on the bots.
yeah i notice it with the Slugger as well, to get the headshots you gotta aim just over their forehead, up and a tad left
Why is every reticle in this game slightly off center lmao
When you go into first person afaik the aim is more accurate which helps me, unless you are using slugger then it still aims low
it may be that there's projectile fall off (as in real life) so at a distance you hit slightly lower than where you actually aim.
@@TheShadow6391 No this is even at like point blank range, the DEvs know about it too lol
gonna be brutally honest. at first i thought this was just another clickbait garbage video with someone talking about what they feel is best/the way to go, without showing/proving anything, but i felt pleasantly surprised within the first 6 minutes that actually included worthwhile information while also showcasing and providing proof that the information isn't just some feeling.
good stuff
I prefer these videos vs the bugs! There’s more if a strategic game play … great work!
really great gameplay here , i'm working my way toward scorcher myself too , can't wait to obtain it
I like this automatons stuff as long as you keep the chatter up like you did here. The gameplay is great but the commentary is where it’s at anyway
I really like your videos because I learn a lot from you. Bugs or bots, still great!
Congratulations, Skull Admiral. Can't believe you denied us to see your level up ;-)
you showed me lot of things, now i can solo helldive now thanks to you alot, for real
Tbh I love solo dives
my heart is always pumping and pair that with some system of a down in the background makes delivering democracy so much sweeter
I love your bot videos! I don't mind less combat. Keep up the good work, Helldiver.
although i will most likely never do any automaton missions, i appreciate your guides and seeing how it's done on helldive!
You're seriously missing out.
yeesh you gotta at least fight them a few times, you’re honestly missing out
May I ask why? I actually prefer doing automaton missions.
Follow what the orders tell us, to do otherwise is treason!
I think that’s precisely why there should be more automaton content. There’s a lot of people that think automatons are harder because there’s less content explaining how to fight them than there’s terminid content.
Dunno if you recall the game Z, an oldschool RTS. The bots used to go fishing at watering holes if you left them alone for a while. Seems like the Automatons are their descendants, lots of fishing events with them gathering around watering holes
Can't wait to watch this, thanks for lookin out for us solo gamers.
At 7:37 you could have opened the crate with the autocannon in case you weren't aware.
you can also open it with anti-material rifle. I'm guessing high AP in general opens it too.
The slugger also works, breaks most small map objects too if they're in the way, like the 2 boxes on a ramp at the end of the wall in that one SEAF Artillery layout
@@godslayer9000 railgun doesn't work, even on max charge. So I don't think AP has anything to do with it.
Arc thrower works aswell
Nice gameplay. Now as a challenge, go for a personal bot kill record
Lvl 9 difficulty but only single drop ships and zero tanks 🤔 how is this possible
One, I think the game balances based on how many players are in the mission; but two, there are whole videos on how the game ramps up dropship and bug breach spawns as you complete either primary or secondary objectives (I forget which).
Sadly there is no mission balance based on players. Just as many enemies 1 player as 4.
@@Gibboonnah there is just look it up
I got drop and tank solo lvl 7. Vidéo with people solo-ing auto lvl 9 are fake
Just want to let you know that you're my favorite helldiver! Thank you for your videos! I'm learning a lot just by watching. Taki, is it cool if you upload videos on how to deal with different objectives while solo. Like that jammer and detect towers. For some reason everytime I do it, I always get swarm by bots and there's always multiple drops. If I'm unlucky drops will have tanks. New to the game, but I want to learn solo hunting just like. Accept me as your Padawan, master taki!
I put my strategems on the arrow keys next to the number pad. I can keep moving while I input the strategem extremely quickly.
The bots require a more deliberate strategy to keep them at range. If they get up close to you enmass you are dead.
I'm impressed at how clean you run with extremely few bot drop ships. Last round we were having 2-5 showing up at a time.
I watch this kind of content to learn and get better at the game. So I welcome Automoton videos.
Id love to see a senator only challenge. Whatever grenades and strategems you want. But no primary or support weapons. I tried going cowboy, but it was a bit too much for me.
the only solo helldive automatons ive done is destroy airbases and i used the orbital laser to make it easy. stealth is definitely the way to do it too. i dont see other people go against the bots and this is why you are the prime example in my book of how to solo helldive
Got the tip early on to bind ⬆️⬇️⬅️➡️ to my arrow keys rather than WASD. It came really naturally and helps me enjoy blowing shit up while I run.
Helldivers are even scarier when you realize their general attack plan is to send 4 dudes against a whole army and that shit is just another Tuesday for those guys.
I'm using the Breaker Incendiary for now, DoTs are awesome and I don't have you fancy Scorcher yet. Also sometimes when I need to clear a path, I toss a grenade as far as I can at my flank and these bots will go over there like a bunch of dumbs. It's amazing how close you can get to them without them even noticing you cause "they've got a noise complaint". And I love using the P-19 sidearm versus the cannon fodder bots, it makes less noise and saves on big gun ammo
I've noticed I was playing all wrong as well, holding my ground as some kind of "badass" only to get overwhelmed. Bots got one thing going for them and that's mobilization using their movement speed and of course those damn dropships. Guerilla warfare by being evasive and using distractions so they've got no clue where you are is the way to go
Somehow the bots keep aggro on me from HUNDREDS of metres away, doesnt matter if i break line of sight, go prone, run around mountains, use smoke.
I had a game the other day that a full patrol was shooting at me from miles away, and tracking me through cover consistently.
Sometimes they just look at where you were seen last, but id say 1 in 4 times they just permanent aggro on me. Super frustrating.
What armor U use? I would guess heavy. Had same problem. Try scout on light 30% less range detection. And also 450movement vs 550 dose not look alot, but it is. also stamina regen is more than double (heavy vs light)
So you lose protection, but you zoom zoom so fast that only random rocket blows you away.
@@CookiePsycho was using medium yesterday but 80 percent of the time the scout light armour.
I get this even using scout armor... which is why I'm perpetually confused by T9 solo footage lacking any such occurrence... unable to lose aggro from a group even if running smokes or moving from cover to cover. The other occurrence tends to be a bot behind cover instantly snitching as soon as I engage a static group on an objective.
Omniscient enemies aren't fun to play against.
There’s a video explaining this. Basically it’s “soft aggro” where aggro’d bots will keep shooting at your last know occasion till they die or de spawn. If you are in their line of sight (I think regardless of direction they’re facing) they will aggro onto you and shoot at you.
@@Some-q1 I'm saying they keep aggro even after going behind several mountains, buildings and breaking kine of sight over and over. Running many metres away and they just keep coming. And or shooting through cover. They know where you are, so certain cover is not breaking aggro
On the Quasar part, it's worth noting that it can oneshot hulks and make easy work of tanks and turrets, given you've got a good distance between you and your target.
Autocannon's biggest cons is you have to crouch still while reloading which may be detrimental if you tend to move and retreat a lot.
Stun grenade effect lasts ~2 seconds. It may sound not so much, but you can use that 2 seconds to run around stunned hulk and rip the batteries on its back apart with your primary weapon.
Excellent run btw. Keep up the good work!
It's actually refreshing how different the playstyles are between bugs and bots. I started bots only, and so got confident and switched to bugs; It was rough at first and then felt fine, only recently switched back to bots to help the push but holy a 4 on bots was feeling like a 7 on bugs. Only lvl 25 so plenty of democracy learning and spreading to go. First time i've seen that primary and now have a new goal weapon.
diff 4 bots aren't that bad but for some reason whenever i turn it up to 5 I get 4-5 Hulks at once. This dude doesn't get that kind of bs on 9 wtf lol
I believe they gave the order for the Creek because people were already on it and getting raged at in the forums for ignoring the other major order. They did this to do away with that problem.
I like seeing both, mostly showing one of the two gets old really fast. Please keep switching the enemies up :)
I’m pretty much still new to the game, so this is a big help!
Autocannon for striders is one shot to the hip. Also, the grenade launcher one shots striders. I've taken out two striders side by side with a single GL to the front panel of one of them.
The Sickle melts most of them up to hulks as a good alternate.
Use your autocannon on drop ships as they come in, aim at the stowage area where the bots are dangling. Splash the small guys for easy kills and soften up medium/heavy units. SOMEtimes the medium units will kind of get stunned if you damage them, and when they land they'll just stand there for a few.
And I bound my keys to the arrow keys ;)
I'm glad that so many loadouts work against bots. Personally I hate taking the auto-cannon since it takes up both a support and a backpack slot. But groups work so much better together when there's some variability in their kits. Yesterday I joined a game and both people on my team brought the quasar, so I told them that the first one of them to die was going to be looted by me- cause daddy needs a quasar! All 3 of us chaining shots at cannon turrets was magnificent.
I love using the anti-mat rifle with a jetpack, get up on some tall rock and just snipe away in peace. The most they can do is ragdoll you from the splash of the rockets but you can just jump back up. The jetpack also lets you throw stratagems really far, and also get away fast from stratagems, so you can do both of these: snipe objectives with a 500kg, or throw one ON YOURSELF and instantly gain 50m of distance with a single jump.
@@godslayer9000 19 times out of 20 when I see somebody with a jetpack they know what they're doing.
@@godslayer9000 that's almost my loadout but I take laser cannon since it can 1 shot heavy camp, bunkers, dropships (mission) and some side objectives
I used to take the AC all the time, but after I unlocked the Railgun I took that instead. The free back slot opens up so much more utility, especially if you want to primary mobility like the Jetpack.
I like watching automaton videos more because it feels like the missions have a flow to them, not just fight - fight - fight like termanids
A couple of silly little tips that I found out while I was learning the game:
7:30 Autocannon is one of the weapons that can break through those crates, so unless you're using it on every single enemy, it's very easy (and pretty worth it imo) to burn a shot on them and collect some nifty loot. :D
10:57 If you're struggling against Heavy Devastators, I've actually found that the grenade launcher is pretty good against them, especially if you struggle with precise aiming. It's able to consistently stagger and kill one with three shots, no matter where you hit. It might fall off at higher difficulties, though, so maybe take this tip with a grain of salt. :P
20:48 Remember that the artillery cannon is not just for XP. If you load up an artillery cannon, then you can use it, and it will almost always prove to be very useful.
21:28 It's very useful to know that you can very easily destroy the broadcast towers with any decently strong explosion, which saves you the hassle of dealing with the reinforcements caused by using the terminal. Even a simple grenade can easily destroy it.
Really nice guide. This is motivating!
Here are a couple of things I’ve found in my experience. The auto cannon can be used to open POI crates and can stun locks and 2-3 shot heavy devastators.
Congrats on level 50! The grind is realllll
There is no grind past 25
my biggest tip against heavy devastators: aim for the gun arm. it's extremely weak and the flinch will prevent it from shooting at you. once the arm breaks off, he's completely not a threat and you can focus on the higher priority enemies
I do this but they still somehow manage to beef-fist me through the floor
Personally love the technical challenge the automatons give and love seing ppl introduce me to new ways to deal w them, i figured out the autocannon but i sometimes get overwhelmed
Helldive runs for automatons i think would make banger vids
24:32 "HULK THROW TANTRUM!" 😂
tbh for bots i REALLY like the diligence. having another weapon good at striders is nice, but really you already have the autocannon. diligence is just fantastic at cleaning up trash bots.
I also love the diligence for automatons.
I would use the plasma but I love having a scope too much... BTW That container door could have been busted by your auto cannon since it has splash.
The retrieve essential personnel missions are insane on automatons, you just end up getting overrun, whatever you do
Yeah they are crazy overtuned for whatever reason, 7-9 there is a 90% chance you fail unless everyone on the team is is setup perfectly and playing at the top of their game. That of you cheese it lol
31:40 for the question, what i (as a viewer) would prefer watching:
I would prefer watching, depending on what the grand orders are. if we have to fight Bots then i would like to see a video where you fight Bots aswell. I get a lot of information on playstyle, and choosing a loadout depending on the faction from an experienced player and that helps a lot for my helldives
Tips vs heavy devastators if you can get behind cover peek to the right since they have the machine gun on the right if you peek out just enough you can shoot the head and they cant aim at you.
If your a teammate you can help even with the sickle to take out the heavies machine gun arm so the person getting pinned can finish the job it does take a good ammo dump but can be done or hit the back pack if you have an angle.
GREAT TO SEE HELLDIVERS AIDING FELLO HELLDIVERS FIGHTING AGAINST THE AUTOMATON THREAT! GLORY TO SUPER EARTH, AND TO MY BROTHERS IN THE DROP PODS, GODSPEED!
amazing video as always. one question, what do you mean about keybinding to the mouse so you can still run while calling stratagems? i stil see you are using wasd, how can you move?
you can bind the strategem inputs to your mouse, just can't be buttons that conflict with actions that cancel stratagem input, such as ADS and primary Fire. Something like a 4-way input mouse wheel could work great. You could also do something like use strafe left/right combined with mousewheel up/down, so that you can continue pressing W to more forward while entering in the strategems.
it looks like he has his stratagems macro'd to a single mouse click but i'm not sure. for me, rebinding to 'press' instead of 'hold' + WASD to arrow keys works fine for running and gunning
WIth some config edit you can bind strategem menu + move forward to the same key, preferably a side mouse button, so when you hold that button you open strategem menu and move forward at the same time, then using wasd as strategem input.
I don’t know if you know about this but if you use Q to ping an objective at any distance, it will permanently mark it on the map as if you walked over to it
I love watching bot gameplay, but I like playing bugs more. Great video! Keepy it up !
Love the content you are my favourite helldiver, have you ever considered streaming, love to watch you stream game play. Much love from Australia 🫡
Amazing lesson on how to git gud against the bots! If I may suggest a possible audio improvement to your mic's signal, I'd play around with removing subs (
This is the first video of yours I’m watching, but tips and load out according to level range would be a great help for newbs like me. 😂
The heavy devastators will open their shield from an AutoCanon shot. So about 2-3 shots with is deals with them way easier than the plas rifle.