The Cure - "A Forest" @ Werchter Festival, july 1981
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2011
- The Cure play A Forest at the Rock Werchter Festival on july 2, 1981. This is the infamous "f***k Robert Palmer, f**k Rock and Roll" episode where the Cure were told they had to cut their set short, obviously not to the amusement of Robert Smith, Simon Gallup and Lol Tolhurst.
I wonder if anyone in the crowd could appreciate how important this recording was and how many people would eventually see it
One of the best songs of all time
YA
This is 43 years old...43 years before 1981 was 1938. Think how much music changed from 38 to 81. Then think of how little its really moved since then. Time goes so fast.
What a great comment my friend so true . Makes you think .
we are only passing through , at least we have all these wonderful time capsules forever
So true, yet not... but I know exactly what you mean.
great comment, so true
That post punk sound from like 1979 to 1982 was incredible. What a tiny brilliant time.
The best 4 years ever in terms of creativity….PIL, magazine, Joy Division, Cure, Killing Joke ….❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@@Manmachine59 Echo and the Bunnymen, Siouxsie and the Banshees (with Mcgeoch), Modern English, The Passions (kind of Post punk - New wave), New Order and u2's first albums. Love it! 🥰
@@AngryTaurus007 fully agree…. So lucky to have lived those times…
I was there joy division Bauhaus siouxie etc........
Moody days though. Unemployment high, nuke threat, but great music. My youth
2023 The CURE is a timeless band now. They were so young in this video ! I was 14 or 15 years old. Now I'm 57 years old and I still do love the sound of The CURE !!!!
Trop d accord avec toi ! 👍
Gallup to Smith in the beginning:
Gallup: "Short or long version Robert?"
Smith: "Extra long version."
Gotta love it.
Agree with you. Love the young and angry Rob Smith ! Hope we'll can see The CURE on stage as soon as possible ? (Friendly from France)
@@janiquevaillot8554 he still got the piss. Fucking destroyed an interviewer at the hall of fame awards who asked him..."are you excited about tonight?"....Robert Smith..unsmiling of course, " not really". 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@ms.lisamurphy269 He allways Stay in Punk and any normal society ist piss'm Off ,He Ho let's Go,Love the Band,allways in my Heart from the First Time and For Sure when Rock,nRoll Hall of Fame don't Put Black Sabbath of the Red carpet ,IT Burns in Hell,Ya?
the song coming alive again is one of the coolest things ever, with different lyrics, an alternative forest
They had no idea of his genius at that moment.
Bands like The Cure and Joy Division took the raw energy of Punk, and entwined it with depth and atmosphere,without losing integrity.
I would add Siouxsie.
Also Bauhaus
I just listened to two hours or so of Joy Division yesterday, and it's all just so good. Everything old is new again, I suppose.
Yes I think so . grateful
Both were probably our quintessence...
On this date in 1981, THE CURE player Werchter Festival in Belgium, a concert infamous for the band's Robert Palmer-baiting version of A FOREST, (July 5th, 1981).
A late running concert saw festival organisers trying to hurry The Cure along to make way for the next act, Robert Palmer. Taking exception to this, Robert Smith informed the crowd what was happening and retaliated by leading the band through an epic version of A Forest, all 9 minutes of it.
"We'd only been on for about a half an hour and everything was running late so Robert Palmer's road crew started motioning to us to stop,” said Smith.
“This bloke ran on and said 'If you don't stop playing, we're gonna pull the plug' …and we started playing a really slow version of 'A Forest' which lasted about 15 minutes.”
“It was f****** brilliant. Unfortunately, when we finished, they threw all our stuff off the back of the stage ..."
At the end of the number, Simon Gallup shouted, “F*** Robert Palmer! F*** rock'n'roll!”
The video here is this ominous, tenser-than-usual take of A FOREST.
Robert Palmer what a joke
Where is Palmer now? A has been of commercial rock. The Cure lives on and is still appreciated by young people. It’s amazing how much of our generation’s music is still appreciated today.
"The Cure, after being told to cut their set short by Robert Palmer's managers, play a 9-minute long rendition of "A Forest".
I found that info on wikipedia - The manager got the Cure...and thanks for that, overwise we would not have had this excellent version - I most have heard it 100 times - best of the best..its medicin.
My ep wasn't even that long, if I remember rightly.
They were always better live, anyway, and can get pretty heavy, man.
That is a great story which explains the pure punk attitude as they say f you to cutting the set short
This is the best version of "A Forest".
-the ending is epic.. lol
I believe it was Palmers roadies who basically said finish up fast or else. Would you like to know what happened after? Palmers Roadies started kicking the cures amps and gear off the back of the stage which of course led to a giant brawl.
The bassline is one of the greatest I ever heard. Rob Smith & Simon Gallup together : wonderful
Sorry
Those two are the reason I learned to play bass, guitar, drums and to sing. Best duo in music history.
Was just tripping on it yo
Damn that guitar is so hauntingly beautiful and moody. Such a thick & layered sound from just a 3 piece band. This era of The Cure was so damn fresh & innovative. Still holds up and sounds great today.
Open tuning of the guitar
Try being in the clubs as it was first played it was so exciting
1984, 85, 86, ....ouch !
Good music always holds up. It's not like 20 year olds today are so much better at music than 20 year olds from other generations.
@@Nyx773 pretty sure it's in standard.
I was there, Robert thought nobody wanted to see them because of the main act who was Robert Palmer. The crowd got beserk! With all repect for Mr Palmer, The Cure was the best gig of the day!
Who's Robert Palmer?
@tim ovel The band on the video you just clicked on and commented, bellend.
@tim ovel Yeah, good one. Im just too shallow for you obviously.
@@dannygomes5611 I think Robert Palmer was session player for Guns n' Roses
Awesome!!!
Ok,1981?? Whaaat??!! And Robert Smith was so f'ing handsome back then!! I have new found appreciation for this iconic band. The sound they created was truly revolutionary. Remember Disco was over just a couple years before this. They sound amazing live, just like their studio production. Forever a Cure fan
this is great. You can just imagine the stage managers wanting to get the band off to move on to the next so they say "one more song" to Mr Smith, with them expecting another four minutes or so. Then Mr Smith decides to do a nearly nine minute version of Forest to piss them off. Excellent!
Actually it was Robert Palmer who wanted them to leave the stage, and even tried to have his roadies forcibly get the Cure off. Really a dick move. The audience having a good time is what a festival is about. Even if you're the headliner, you can't treat other bands like some support act.
Agree with you !!!
@@DolleHengst Exactly, which is why the Cure remain completely and deservedly revered while Robert Palmer is a side joke about 80's pop (American Psycho).
@@jenton70
That musicvideo for Addicted To Love though.. :-p
Its pretty awesome.
@@standinsilence well I can’t argue with that
This presentation was EPIC! "Oh, you want me to finish soon, ok, take my 9 minutes song them!"
Jajajajaja vete a la mierda.
I love that Robert Smith went past
9 minutes so the Fans could hear the Music. The CURE is Always and Will be the Main Reason the Crowd came to watch that day. Robert said it best "F*** Robert Palmer, F*** Rock and Roll"!
🕶👍
I love this moment (5'20") when Robert and Simon start to discuss, and decide to make it much longer, to "relaunch" the beat, in a complete impro (especially the lyrics, which basically mean nothing. LOL!). Love it!
It took Tolhurst a bit to realise he needed to fire up the engine again 😁
thanks for that heads up
such a long end, such a long end, such a long end xD Rolf 'n Copter
I love that at the end, the crowd can be heard chanting "we want more, we want more"!
Yes we still want more ! Friendly from France. I love The CURE and Robert Smith since I was a teenager 🖤🎼🎶🎤🎸😻👍
I love that people are still watching this footage. This is awesome.
After seeing them finally inducted into RARHOF...it got me totally missing their music!!! They were my first favorite band!!
Oh man only just discovered this live set!! This is so F#$@ing good, i was 1 in 1981!! I think they could have done a 20 minute version its so memorizing, pure class.
It's genius!
@@josephlinsley5282after the RRHOF I have become newly obsessed with The Cure. I have spent a month listening to all their albums, watching all their videos. I'm amazed by the unique genius of The Cure. Robert Smith is not of this world.
Purple Kiss it’s timeless.
I still listen to A Forrest daily and probably have since 1984. It never gets old. There are those who found The Cure, and those who still need to.
Never gets old is right. Hypnotic. And you can dance to it.
the best version ever
The concert from 1992 blows my head off, it is incredible!!!
35 years later - this song still sends shivers down my spine.
and a litt'le teardtop,Off course...
41 years later makes me wish i was back in 86 25 years ago.
35 years? Some extra lessons maths might help ))
@@joe22589 36*
same for me x
@@norbertenderle8092
39 years and it still gives me goosebumps. Long live The Cure
@@corvandehaar8397 I think he meant since that concert 😉
Amen 🙏
65 still dancing to this. Cuban rocker here
Actually think Robert’s guitar skills are overlooked. His playing isn’t extreme but he gets such emotion out of his guitar sound. What a group though, happy I found Cure during my teen years
Technically adept, especially when I saw him with Siouxie.
He makes great use of flange here. The Cure were always great at atmospheric guitar. I think Porl Thompson (who would join the band later) is an amazing guitarist.
The only time I’ve heard someone strumming only open strings and making it sound good
He's a very good guitar player. He's Jonny Marr level.
Yeah sure true well also he's singing at the SAME TIME.
Great song. Anyone is still watching this in 2021?
2024...
Imagine the anti climax. You've just witnessed the Cure at their 80s best and now you have to suffer Robert Palmer. I'd have gone home 😔
Just leave lol.
😂😂😂 spot on
Wait, who’s on next?? Meh, we’re out 😂
Lmfao
Is that the dude that sang....simply irresistible. .....really, that dude sucked ass
Young, talented Robert, he was just 22 then!
...and just 19 yrs old when he formed The Cure...
@@Pulsonar , in 1976 - Easy Cure- Robert 17-old
Super creative period too.....
The ad interrupting the middle of this song made Jesus cry.
Should be illegal.
I don't know I think Google has a duty of care to tell me about prostate cancer during this song.
This song made them a force to be reckoned with....
when i'll only have 9 mins left of my life i would totally listen to this.
The Cure.... One of the greatest bands ever in my opinion
Spot on. The greatest.
Not one of the greatest, the greatest.
Agree
Not the greatest but one of them. We can`t deny that Depeche Mode or U2 are not another 2 great bands !
Wrong, that was Led Zeppelin!
A masterpiece in Bass guitar playing that I could listen to again and again and again and again and again and again and again---!
I still remember the moment, old now but still young at heart
The Cure & Depeche mode, two of my biggest musical inspirations
Smith + Gore ❤
"It's such a long end." lol!!
I love how the kickdrum comes back to haunt the managers
There was such a story.
Thank you for letting me know about it.
In my thought, the song "a forest" is a revolution or achievement in rock and pop history(fruther expanded like "inbetween days", " walk", " Push", " Let's go to bed", and " caterpiller girl", "faith", etc . I feel Ginious punk!)
I have heard this song recently. And so surprised that this song had written in 1980 by so young artists.
"A forest " is a masterpiece.
Aren't anyone who does feel same with me at that time?
In addition, the voice sounds as mysterical as nymph's(siren?).
Dear FUCKING GOD. This is literal PERFECTION.
I love this young, angry Robert just burning it up!
Também acho..
He’s young, angry yet so polite and self effacing.
Yes total focus in music,this is so good
I'm after SEXY SIMON! 😍
Yes he is so beautiful and sexy and great musician
Love him
Didn't fully understand how amazing this song was until my 50,s.
This the best version ever 👍
Masterful trolling by Robert. "Such a long end.... such a long end..." ad lib
Imagine... I was 17, it was my first live concert, could listen most of the 2 albums tracks, boys don't cry and seventeen seconds, it was in a small theater, in Marseille, june 79 ! Forest was hypnotic.
I must have been about the same when i found this while visiting some students at Uni. Played the album over and over. Still brilliant.
Having heard dozens of live versions of this song - this in my opinion is the best. Robert gets his guitar ringing so hauntingly throughout. The three of them are so together. I can listen to this version dozens of times and find something new each listen.
I think you are right
the additional lyrics at the end, is that what they used to do at the time? i can't remember them from later live recordings...
@ I've never seen those lyrics in any recorded version of this song. I understand the band was miffed with the Robert Palmer crew that day. Maybe at 5:25, Robert and Simon were discussing ways to make the song last longer just to anger the Palmer crew, and remembered that segment from some by-gone practice session. I can't lip read - but maybe Simon is asking something like "was that in G or D" or whatever at 5:25.
I agree. Just listened to 13min version (imo the longer the better) but found my self going back to this performance half way through. Nothing like it
Agree with you ! Such a brilliant mastepiece ! I could listen to every single day of my life. Love all their versions ! The famous haunting sound of The CURE ! We do still love it !
Back when I was all about Punk Rock, in the early 80’s The Cure, was something all of us were listening to when none of our friends were around. Nonetheless, we were all listening to it.
Raw energy from the young and angry and healthy Robert Smith boss of The CURE. Mastepiece ! Love it ! Février 2022
Your a die hard cure fan!
@@carlharrison62 I still listen to their songs. Timeless songs like A Forest, 10.15 saturday night, Lubally and so on
@@janiquevaillot8554 The Cure are a great band. The Forest is my favourite. You don't get quality like this anymore!
@@carlharrison62 agree with you. Their sound is still haunting me ! Timeless songs ! A Forest is one of my favorite
~40 years ago... I don't feel old, but I remember this like it was yesterday. 81/82 was an amazing time to bee a teenager.
Yes, in retrospect it was magical .
I was 24 in81 and my son had been born that year and my daughter the year after ...the next decade was the most special in every way .its a pity my kids were too young to appreciate the music of the early eighties ....especially.81-86
The flange pedal is the fourth member of the group :)
flanger is everything ua-cam.com/video/W6Tzl8vISjQ/v-deo.html
Trade mark, to some extent.
i hear the jet plane
Awesome comment
without flanger no cure !
Why is this not blowing up on the net? Boom smash yeah!
2023 great old song 🖤
Robert Smith how gifted already in his early 20s !
A Forest : always one of my favorite songs from The Cure.
Janique Vaillot no it’s not
Lived 3 houses down from Simon and had drinks with him at his house once, not knowing who he was. 🤣
Dannnng! Robert looks very fine here🔥🔥🔥 😍
The Cure with Tolhurst on drums were amazing. The way he accented his hi-hats was really great. It seems he's a bit overlooked, but his drumming was a real highlight of those early records.
Essential and fast drumming, very similar to Stephen Morris drumming in Joy Division.
@@CatoMinor Morris was a significantly more competent drummer than Lol ever was.
@@zoeherriot ... and so is Jason Cooper.
Technique? Of course if he'd have ripped into a bewildering polyrhythm, if might not have worked so well. So many bands' best work was during their first albums, before the learned to play properly. Mark E Smith just sacked them if they started trying to get too clever (the absolute legend!)
@@justcatchingrye Smith asked Tolhurst for a years to learn more than just the few basic patterns.
The Cure's keyboards do not require refined skills, they are mainly for atmosphere. But the bass and rhythm section is important.
Я в первый раз их услышал только в 87, магнитофон кассетный купил!
When I first listened to The Cure I was on a 3 hour road trip. Someone, a week or so earlier, on TikTok had recommended me Let’s Go To Bed, and I liked it, but kind of just added it to my Spotify playlist and forgot about it. The song came up on shuffle about halfway through the trip, and out of curiosity I decided to check out The Cure’s greatest hits compilation. When A Forest played I realized why people always told me “music can change your life.” Looking back, my entire listening routine before this had just been listening to noise to quiet the world. It never meant anything to me until now, I was never grounded. It was like I had gained a new consciousness. It never felt as real as this. Spent the rest of that trip(and my life thus far) listening to The Cure.
To think 38 years later they were inducted in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame!
This song lasts generation and generations and generations....... into eternity of music
As young adult at the time, it is difficult to express how, after being bombarded by Disco and hair-metal, to have music to listen to that wasn't stupid or formulaic. Most of my friends didn't accept it, but New Musik, synth-pop, punk, electronic was life-changing for me.
This was my background music for the 1980s.
I really like this style. Would you have any recommendations?
@@joshhume3412 - Whoa Josh - life is too short to list all of the great bands from that era. Start with these: Joy Division, Echo & The Bunneymen, early Simple Minds and early U2, Modern Lovers, Talk Talk, The Stranglers. If you need more just ask. Enjoy!
As well as the aforementioned, try Japan, Bauhaus, Magazine, Television, Flock of Seagulls....
Wal Ford Not wanna be the Party Pooper here ...But the Hair Metal Bombardments were AFTER this.....
@@joshhume3412 Red Lorry Yellow Lorry, Bauhaus, sisters of mercy,Joy Division, Killing Joke, and fields of Nephlim
My word, Robert was a handsome lad back in the day. And his voice in this performance.. wow!
Amazing version
Ironically one of the most rock'n'roll moments ever.
Right??!!
@Amber refer to the description of this vidéo and listen to the last 20 seconds
@@minimoze but that's not irony - it's just something that happened. Like rain on your wedding day...
@@zoeherriot or a free ride when you already paid ;)
Exactly haha
Brought my kids 2 see the cure at mad cool festival in Madrid last year. My 11 year old said it was the highlight of his life apart from being born 🤗🤗🤗
That's awesome music is so cool and a great to express oneself...
They were great in that show in Madrid!!
That’s awesome 👏🏻
What a cool dad you are :) My kids like The Cure too.
You are Father of the Year!!!!
Maaaaan!!! I was there. Tourhaut and Werchter were on my calendar every year until’85. When I had to get a real job.
I was only 15 years old. And if I had à time machine I will do everything to be in the audience to see this concert ! Thanks a lot for UA-cam
Use to play this driving home at night from work (late 80s car CD). It would put me in to a trance before Trance music was invented...
37 years later, still one of the best rock songs ever written....
THE HAUNTING SOUND OF THE CURE IS DEEP IN THE DARK ! (14 mars 2022)
Absolut top !!!!!!👍👍👍🤠🙋♂️🌈
Oh man someone really needs to invent a time machine! I WANNA GO BACK!!!
Me too -every day i miss the eighties
It was awesome. I saw them live when I was fifteen.
I was a marine on Okinawa,and I definitely needed the cure 😚
Same. I would go in a second. I think my kids would too. They love the music from 70s and 80s.
Great tune incredible..
LOOK AT HOW YOUNG THEY WERE!!? 😅
And Robert Smith STILL sounds the same!!!
What a TRIP!!!
@Kiwifan His voice changed because he learnt how to sing.
@Kiwifan oh jesus, it's you... he took singing lessons prior to Disintegration - my high school music teacher was friends with Robert and she mentioned it. But he also discussed it in a Rolling Stone article around 1989.
But more generally, he learnt to sing over time. That's why by the time the Top was recorded he was using different singing voices and techniques, such as falsetto.
PEOPLE AGE KIWI
@Kiwifan The Cures 2000s output is pretty underated if you dont count their Self Titled album
I think most of The Cures songs are sooo sexy... it brings back sooo many awesome memories❤️💥👄🍑🍓🍾 🔥
Phenomenal~* !!** ❣️🎶🤟
The CURE & Robert Smith were like Aliens with their new haunting and amazing sound. Love The CURE
and now they play them at the grocery store *eyeroll* always the same three songs : friday, pictures, and heaven. cool i guess, but kinda lame of coopted genius passed as grocery store fluff. At least Robert and the boys have been rewarded
🤣@@clumsiii
They were young, they were beautiful ! The crowd is an ocean and artists are drunken boats !!
❤
Might as well face it, you’re addicted to the cure
There's your like.
Have been for the past 40 years!
I bet Robert Palmer was jamming to this as he was waiting backstage.
ua-cam.com/video/kLg2lMofOjs/v-deo.html
you've got me
Legendary, still a great live band to this day.
And Robert Palmer is DEAD!!!!!!!
i'll be seeing them live for the first time in june. super excited
The music is extremely simple but hypnotic, and the rythm section is unbelievably steady (and I dont think in those days they played with a click track on stage...)
Simple with multiple key changes
@@viviennetwigg8096 So?
Robert Smith = Genius
The girl was never there. What I was running to was nothing. Again and Again and Again and Again. Been one of my favorite songs of my lifes soundtrack. Just saw that I had been here before tell in you how important somehow this song was and is to me. Could be my life favorite. ? Takes to someplace of comfort and joy all at the same time. My Thanks to All involved !!!!!
Wow, that's , roughly, 10 years BEFORE I first attended with my daughter and (her) friends ... Now 73 y. o. .... !
The early days of "The CURE ". Love it ! Great band. We want more. Again and again & again...
This is a few versions in bud. At this stage, when they played material from the first few years it was them playing 'old' Cure.
Hehe, 'again' is Smith's favourit word.
A Forest is an absolutely great song deep powerful and melancholic.
Come closer and see
See into the trees
Find the girl
While you can
Come closer and see
See into the dark
Just follow your eyes
Just follow your eyes
I hear her voice
Calling my name
The sound is deep
In the dark
I hear her voice
And start to run
Into the trees
Into the trees
Into the trees
Suddenly I stop
But I know it's too late
I'm lost in a forest
All alone
The girl was never there
It's always the same
I'm running towards nothing
Again and again and again and again
Lol i always sung "find a girl, what you can" i was a young and drunk asshole Lol
Thanks for the lyrics brilliant. 😻
It's such a long end...
@@nicolasreynolds7618 dedicated to Robert Palmer >D
@@thomaschulze how cocky were these kids disrespecting the so called bigger act LOL--They already knew how good they were
Wow hauntingly beautiful song, every time I see this I also think he is somewhat like Robert Pattinson’a cousin, with the unusual likeness. Wonderfully reborn with The Batman movie as a theme song with the secondary installment.
I. Love ❤ FOREVER GREAT Cure🎸🎸🎸💯💯💯
I did a half hit of acid one weekend when I was 40. I was afraid to do a whole hit, which I did two weeks later with a good friend who supplied both the acid and The Cure. Fortunately, I was able to leave acid behind. Fortunately, I wasn’t able to leave The Cure behind, even 30 years later. A Forest is the song that got me hooked on The Cure. It has a special place in my head and heart. I can’t imagine a short, edited version. I also like Robert Palmer. Go figure.
You should never leave acid behind.
A lot of my pals are die hard cure fans. I was never fond of them until recently when i took 2 tabs of acid(im 20 btw)and came across this song. Changed my life.
I became a Cure fan without using acid. I’m weird that way.
That's a good age to do acid. I bet you are a better man for it.
Hey, you heard the man, Fuck Robert Palmer....and Fuck Rock n Roll!!
Still remains an Outstanding Band.
This is the coolest thing ever
One of my favorite songs 🥰 I love that my kids now love the cure! Passing the music on to the next generation ❤️🔥
Out of all the versions of this song, I think this is my all-time favorite! 💋💋💋
This song could continue for 1 hour, it's so hypnotic that i could go on hearing to it all the time.
An ad right in the middle of this amazing performance. Thanks UA-cam, that was great!
Blame the channel creator for allowing ads.
This is the period in time I saw them at starplex amphitheater Dallas. Full moon. Led with this song. Ethereal night. So cute he was.
*_LOVE THE WAY THEY TALK TO EACH OTHER HALF WAY THROUGH... ABOUT WHAT IS FOR TEA THAT NIGHT_* 🍔 🍟
haha doubt it
This is exactly the reason why the Cure gained notoriety. I’ve been a fan since 1991. Or sooner. This song is timeless.
And yet this was 1981. Just missed by 10 years.
So Stunning and Brave.. Robert Palmer ruled too.
There were so many good post punk bands out that it was hard to say who was the best. The Cure are one of them, but nobody mentions Echo and the Bunnymen. A brilliant band.
Ian McCulloch agrees he's the best songwriter with a band.
because they aren't and werent as good as the cure when you look at their entire discography. its not even comparable really but at least both are still touring and putting on great shows.
The Bunnymen’s first three albums are staggering genius. Deep cuts All That Jazz No Dark Things incredible