Why Everyone Hates The Acolyte | Asmongold Reacts
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- Everyone Hates The Acolyte as Much as Disney Hates Star Wars
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The best quote someone said about this: "The people who used to bully you for liking Star Wars are now in control of it"
Yeah I read it too. Profound ain't it.
Slow clap.
And now bully you for NOT liking it.
So glad Theorys finally starting to be vocal about how shit star wars has become
i think its a band nerd takeover
The stupidest thing is that Star Wars already had one of the strongest female leads of all time when it was originally written. Leia is the leader of the Rebellion which is why she gets captured in the first movie. Leia’s main character features are that she’s brave, smart, and respected. The galaxy is dominated by a totalitarian regime that blows her home planet up in front of her, and her response is “$&@ you, come get these rebel hands.” She’s the definition of a badass, well written female character.
Queen Amidala as well
Thank youuuuu. She needs more love.
And now they simply have unbelievable characters that would apparently never get captured while having no training (rey). Optional: sob back story of being abandoned, orphaned or lgbtq being their entire backstory. Or my favorite: being bullied for their skin color. It's just so tiring.
Well, Mon Mothma (also a woman) was the founder and leaser of the rebel alliance, but yes.
What surprises me most is how anybody is able to F up a masterpiece like Star Wars. Like i give you the whole package, episodes 1-6, now i tell you to expand it however you like. I'd be utterly shocked to see anyone mess it up this bad
The black girl with the rich White dad....must be so hard. The Antiwhite narrative is exhausting.
Yeah, also the fact that the 25% black girl is a multi millionaire. So OPPRESSED!!
@@cypher5910 Michael.
Literal white supremacy.
@cypher5910 obama actually did something tho, good or bad things is not for me to decide. But her and her husband actually achieve something that hadent been done before. Making her not as bad imo
@@noonoolink6822 no they didnt
Wait. They chose to break canon and bring back a character but they picked the guy who has a harem because his species genetically requires it so much that the jedi made an exception for their anti-attachment stuff? Wow. Unless they retconned that as well this just indicates they aren't even vaguely familiar with the source material.
The failure of one
The failure of two
The failure of maaaannnyyyyyy
😂
There are no accident
-Master Oogway
Could have just made a baller rhyme scheme.
Instead just phoned it in and did spoken dialogue
The power of DEI.
The power of woke.
The power of moneeeeeeeeeeey.
The power of privilege. While pretending you aint
Friendly reminder that the Acolyte creator, in all her girl-boss interviews, kinda neglects to mention that she was Harvey Weinstein's personal assistant for years, and knew all of the shady goings on, but for 'reasons' was able to avoid being dragged down. If she was straight and a guy, 3 guesses as to whether she'd be employable in hollywood. Source: her wikipedia page. Leslye Headland.
It's amazing that she is not only getting jobs but big budget ones despite having no qualifications.
The power of the alphabet-female card is either that powerful, or she got dirt on enough people on top to get whatever she wants for life.
@@sianaisHear me out. What if she know something about some higher ups in Disney that were customers of Weinstein, so they give her this project to shut her up?
@@TRPDKDisney has “Make you disappear” money, if she was in deep enough to understand the game she wouldn’t want to cross Disney like that. She’s probably in their good graces because she kept her mouth shut.
What's the early life section of that wikipedia page say 😂
She literally acquired "talent" for Harvey... IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN
Fun fact: the poison scene wasn’t acting the actor was just trying to get out of the show by any means necessary.
unironically, my mom, aunt and uncle love this show. they are past senior age though.they also love KDRAMA.
they were moved at the poison scene. taste is relative i guess
i gotta test my water if it has lead in it....
Bro LMAO
LOL - I was thinking by episode 4 everyone who "died" was grateful.
Just to put this into perspective this show has spent 180 million for season 1 DUNE 2 cost 170 million.................. the acolyte has to be a money laundering scheme
Everything woke is a money laundering scheme.
the LotR films are 90mil each. Entertainment budgets are actual insanity.
What the actual fuck?
@@antonfuchs7300 But those actually make money.
Please never look up government projects(NY Transit/subways US vs any other country). You might have a heart attack. At least this wasn’t your money…
Race, Sexuality, Looks > Storytelling, Plotting, and Worldbuilding
is precisely how every piece of entertainment fails today.
Not every piece, just Western one, and some of JP that is stationed in California. The world isn't only the US.
Not every piece mostly just the Hollywood trash
@@TheMrToxin then what is the world if its not the US ??
@@TheMrToxinI highly doubt the ones who have a problem with this type of situation cares about non-western films. I’m sure you understand that
Edit: majority of*
Nothing to do with any of that. Disney has been making bad products for over a decade, it's just their MO. Meanwhile every other so called "woke" media is doing great, just look at baldurs gate 3
It's comical how they created an entire cult around black fatherless children and didn't think for a second about what they were doing there.
They really thought they had something.
Yikes I didn’t even realize that. Maybe that’s racist Hollywood being woke but at the same time showing their true colors
No better source material than reality
Looooooool
it has to be malicous hollywood keeps doing crap like that
She's not a professional actress. She's an activist.
Not only her. Most of the entertainment industry is like this nowadays.
A left wing activist disguised as an actress
no she's a pro, basically worked for Disney her whole life
@daruekeller yea, that explains it
@@daruekellerdoesn’t make her a pro. she has the range of a turnip
As a straight female who always loved Star Wars, ever since I was around 10 years old, watched and loved all things sci-fi and action, played outside with the boys, lightsaber duels, hockey, etc. I can't stand what is happening to all things we loved growing up and now. As you said, strong females and strong female leads have been around forever, it isn't new, and it was typically done quite badass back in the day! I'm also sick of the treatment of men, god forbid they show they are strong and think for themselves and bam tOxIc & sExIsT! 🙄People need to focus on quality, and spare us with their bullshit agendas.
The irony is that they criticize toxic male behavior, but give the female characters exactly the same quality that they apparently hate in men...
Well said sis
I agree with every word you said. As a straight white 50 year old man, thankyou for showing me sanity still exists. I'm sick and tired of people attempting to guilt me for being who and what I was born to be.
I'm sorry but to whom are you referring? I thought Sol was a great character. He was in touch with his emotions, cared about others, and tried to do the right thing. He was also shown to be a badass with a lightsaber and ain't no one to fuck with. Torbin created an impenetrable barrier with just his mind and the only person who could kill him was himself. Qimir and the Wookie were tough as nails. All this confuses me to no goddamn end
Good on ya! I had a little sister that preferred my toys over her own 😂 my favorite for some reason was Kit Fisto but I had plenty of female role models growing up. Not just in Star Wars. My biggest role model is my older sister who got out of a toxic environment, went to college, the air force and has a big family that she cares for. Big W
Bro imagine being a star wars geek in the 70s and 80s, getting builled and hazed revenge of the nerds style, only to grow up and get bullied out of your own fandom. Sad times.
Yea, growing up I was a nerd loser because of what I watched, now I'm a racist bigot because of things I don't watch.
@@CSestp bro that's horrible, they shoved you in a locker only too let you out in a klan hood.
@@evanajames531 I guess thats where my "care" comes from. These people were not bullied because of something they loved. Didn't dare buy any star wars, star trek, or marvel garb for fear of getting beaten up or mocked. Yet I'm the societal problem of today... Just let me read my x-wing books and leave me be assholes.
Ditto
this is how my uncle feels. he saw the original as a small kid. now he's watching his childhood get fucking destroyed.
Hold up, a Jedi Wookie dies off screen!?!? Wtfffffff… lmaooooooooooo
They don’t want ANYONE to take the spot light from their Witches Cult… that’s crazy af..
Someone probably saw the writing for the scene and thought, its actually better to have this happen off screen than show this ridiculous Wookie death.
They argued it was because of the budget.
The hundreds of millions in budget, for the 6 episodes show...
Imagine watching and seeing that in real- time lol I would’ve been so pissed off not seeing Jedi wookie fight
DONT WORRY WE GET TO SEE HIM FIGHT!!!
….in a flashback 🙃
Same with Carrie Anne Moss’s character. Y’know…the one that got killed within 30 seconds of the first episode…by a small dagger to the chest 🙃
It figures- they broke one of George Lucas' rules (that Wookiees couldn't be Jedi) to create this dude in the firs place, and then barely did anything with him.
Leslye Headland the creator of Acolyte is actually the acolyte of Harvey Weinstein. Not joking, there's even an interview.
It’s projection
That doesn't surprise me in the slightest.
so I'm not a big fan of Leslye's agenda driven behaviors, but I just want to point out that KK giving Lego Headlady a huge payday for nailing Fat Bastard is the only thing I respect about Kathy. Dude was a goddamned monster, took advantage of around 80+ women plus Ashley Judd and Gweneth Paltrow, and I believe Leslye did have a hand in supplying credible info to help put him away, some justice was served. Wish people would stop saying she was some sort of accomplice, pretty sure she hates that db with a passion.
@@ferrarriohh Cause she was an accomplice. She was his right hand assistant. The fact that she was in a position to know enough to help take him down means that she was aware of it for a long time. Most likely even aided him for years. The only reason she isn’t behind bars for it is because she made a deal with the feds for her info. If she did aid in any information. You don’t get to be in the position she was in without knowing and being fully aware of things.
@@ferrarriohh if she had information to take him down she could have exposed him at any time.
In regards to the house of the dragon, it’s good to acknowledge that at no point in the show do they ever make a big deal out of the velarions being black. They’re just there and they act like regular nobles in the setting.
Except making an entire race of people who weren't black, black. Other than that they did nothing.
Still only threading the line of just another average series, and i'm being generous..
I mean, I loved starwars as a female kid, played with lightsabers and shit. I didn’t require the franchise to be anything other than exactly what it was to appreciate it. Disney is a clown show these days.
I think it's an important point : a show shouldn't gatekeep its fandom. A fandom who would reject fans because of their gender or skin colour would be utterly rotten.
But it doesn't have to catter to them just for the sake of inclusivity. Just be good, and people will decide if they want to be fans or not, there's enough room for everybody (I don't like Bridgerton, I don't like One Piece, I'm not gonna tell people to change them so I can like them. I'll just watch something else).
@@dalriada7554this ^^^
Feels like whoever’s in charge is forcibly trying to make people see a “certain angle” thru the writing or “message” in Star Wars instead of just y’know….making Star Wars
It’s not that hard to make an Oscar worthy Star Wars film and yet disney be strugglin bro 🤦🏾♂️
There’s a great video essay done by this lady about her gripes with the new Disney-lead Star Wars and she basically said something to the affect of “don’t include me in this!? This isn’t for ME?!”
Basically denouncing the whole thing about Disney Star Wars trying to be more inclusive for women and LGBTQ+ stuff
When in reality, it’s kind of always had that in the background and the actual plot was what made Star Wars fun and memorable
Especially the OT
@@dalriada7554gatekeeping implies keeping the essence of a franchise pure and in tact, the only problem is a bunch of people who want to change everything...
@@squaeman_2644 By gatekeeping, I mean refusing that people different from you are part of the fandom (like saying "Warhammer 40K are for boys, not for girls").
Because girls enjoy geek stuff (I mean the people I know who build gundams are pretty evenly divided by gender).
Changing everything in a franchise is just crap (unless you're really really good. Like Verhoeven changing the message of Starship Troopers in the movie. Or Kubrik changing Shining to the point Stephen King rejected it).
Star Wars fans don’t hate female leads because they’re female, but we’ll hate if the writing just sucks. We’ve had strong female leads like Leia and Jyn and other strong female characters such as Ashoka, Padme, Asaj Ventress, Bo Katan (she’s better in TCW). The reason why everyone hated the sequels wasn’t because the main character was a girl, but it was because her story and writing sucked, and it’s the same thing with The Acolyte.
In the books there was Mara Jade too and she was awesome
@@astrowuffand Jaina who got loads of attention in the books.
Saba sebatine was also awesome but she didn’t get as much from what I’ve read so far.
Yeah, it's one thing to be critical of the writing and say "The films weren't written the very best and definitely could have been better, but there were some things I really liked that I think they nailed."
It's another thing entirely to say "Ugh! Rey is a total Mary Sue. She ruined the movies. Lucasfilm and Kathleen Kennedy don't know what fans want and are killing our childhood! These films were trash and belong in the dumpster of history, on fire. Bring back the EU. Make a movie with Luke being the badass Jedi we know and love."
One is constructive, the other is immature, toxic gatekeeping bullshit.
@@grayden4138 If someone doesn’t believe in the first one why would they say it? What you said wasn’t critical either. Hilariously the only thing in your list that had an actual specificity was “mary sue”. Otherwise, no information was provided to improve upon.
And the only thing they nailed in the sequels was sound effects and visuals. They look absolutely fantastic imo. But as stories? Not really. The first one was fine but still had loads of (in my opinion, and it seems a lot of peoples,) fixable problems, but still lots of the following two however were horrendously done. And I could get into specifics, but honestly theres got to be at least 6 to 12 videos that go into depth on that or how it could be better.
What are you talking about? Nah, it’s clearly just that we suddenly hate women and feel “threatened”.
I mean, it can’t be that there’s a lack of talent. It just can’t be. That would mean they’d have to “take responsibility” (which is basically just a slogan to these people).
Their emotional needs are telling them they’re right and we’re all wrong. 😂
Btw you’re protesting a bit much with that list of stunning and brave, brave and stunning characters. Personally I think this whole franchise is paper thin, even the OG trilogy. It was never intended to be this expansive.
Laser samurai knights in spaaaaace was always the appeal, not political lectures. I’m just enjoying watching the freak show burn down from a safe distance.
No I am not watching the actual show
Same problem with Blizzard.. the devs are either forcefully sheltered or self-sheltered from 99.99% of feedback because it's "Toxic Gamer Culture"
It's not the same. Blizzard makes money.
@@Floxxoror that's debatable, if Microsoft hadn't of stepped in I think we would be sings a different tune
gated communities writing TV shows
@@Floxxoror "Blizzard make money" True, but only because of what it used to be--not because of what it is today. Just like with the state of California. CA is NOT an economic powerhouse (a status it is losing) because of current fiscal policy, but because of past fiscal policy.
Self
The biggest problem with Vader going to back to Tatooine and Obi-Wan leading him back there is that the whole purpose of him going into hiding on that planet is to keep Luke from him. Because Vader hated that planet, so the chances of the dark side finding them were slim to none. Another massive oversight from Disney
what are you talking about? obiwan never led him back to tatooine?
@@itz_otto was their battle not on tattooine at the end of the first season?
@@calco5482 vaders and obiwans? No it was on a barren moon
@@calco5482The planet they fought on is Jabiim
Yeah, that plot was kinda bad
I still cant believe how uninformed one of the cast members is where he:
- twice said anakin blew up the death star in separate interviews
- said star wars doesnt have a good or evil its a matter of opinion
- said he never felt he could be a jedi because he had a darker skin tone and didnt feel represented... *Cough* mace windu *cough* 20 years ago *cough* finn held a lightsaber and had a fight only a few years ago *cough* (and james earle jones was always known as darth vader even though he was just the voice. He's much more widely known than Sebastian Stan and David Prouse were)
He knows enough about SW to believe Anakin blew up the death star. That's all we need to know. My favourite actor when I was a kid (female) was Bruce Lee. I knew I could never be a Chinese martial artist but that didn't mean I couldn't enjoy watching him be one. If they truly believe 'I have no affinity because I can't see myself', they're either narcissists or they're fed those lines by Disney in 'media training'.
These people worship villains in real life and claim they are good so it makes sense they are confused and gaslighting people to believe it’s all perspective.
@@tkps 100% I loved Bruce lee as well and Jackie Chan was someone we all loved pretending to be as kids at school. We all loved power rangers as well and didn't care who played who, we could see ourselves as all of the rangers. Just because you haven't physically seen someone play a role doesnt mean you can't see yourself in the role. (Even though the actor in this situation is just factually incorrect as we have had Mace Windu as a main jedi and as George Lucas says, pretty much everyone in star wars is an alien).
Disney is just hypocritical in the whole thing anyway.
uninformed*
the sad part is, Finn going from Imperial trooper to Jedi would have been waaaaaaaaaaay cooler than Rei "Skywalker"
Love the scene in LOTR when Aragorn asks Gandalf "What do I call king Theoden - him, her, them?". Made the trilogy complete.
You call him Theo... den.. and now...
...was that before of after Morbin' time
The terms Racist and Sexist don’t mean anything anymore
The only meaning they have left is in telling you what the political leanings of the person saying them are. The moment someone says those words in any context other than joking and/or critical of them is probably someone who's going to do whatever they can to ruin you if they find out you're not one of them.
I’ve been saying for the last couple of years. You used to not want to be called a racist or sexist because it was bad but if everyone is being called racist or sexist then there’s no fear anymore. And what’s even the point of trying to avoid being called those things when it’s just going to happen anyways? I think they’re going to make people more racist and sexist than ever
Well they are bold racists and sexists. Can you explain , why you think, they aren't ones?
Add fascist to the list
Sexist? Ain't one yet, but I'm trying to work up the stamina for that.
Went from having 1 black guy in the entire galaxy to a galaxy where if your not gay or a ethnic race, your a alien
There is no gay person in the hole series
@@lennoxax929 Lando is a Pansexual now (thanks to Solo).
So technically, there is one.
Plus apparently, you can make Luke Skywalker gay if it fit your own vision of the character now so..there's two?
and soon, there will be manyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
@Geekezf didn't know. However that has nothing to do with acolyte
@@lennoxax929 Gays no. Lesbians at least two.
There is no gay in this series.
"Don't call my dumpster fire a dumpster fire."
"Don't talk to me unless you have something good to say about me"
a golden trash can with falmes?
Stop screaming at me to look at it, then!
"stop telling me my shit smells bad"
Can we start calling it a Honey Bucket?
Over 20 million per episode, 1 of the 10 most expensive shows per episode ever. not even 28 minutes for episode 4. Around 750k dollar per minute, 12.5k per second. That's one of the 5 most expensive shows per minute ever. And look, what they did with that. What a waste of money... 🤦♂
With so little views. I don't get why they keep pushing this garbage? It's not profitable or is it a money laundering scheme or something?
That puts things into such a dismal perspective.
Furthermore
They revealed that 4.8 million people watched the Acolyte in “the first day”
But they premiered the first 2 episodes at once so that number is divided in half for the show’s viewers so best case 2.4 million people watched both episodes but Disney+ has 120 million subscribers
This means that only 2% watched on day one and even after 5 days it was still only 9% at 11 million
And Disney called these numbers “record breaking”
Which means that every single other show on Disney+ did worse
And Disney+ has yet to make a single solitary dollar in profit
our 8th grade show had a better story than this, and we did it for free....fuckin'ell
And you suddenly hear a voice echoing _"money laundering"_ in your mind
The biggest mistake they made was destroying the male role completely. There is NO reason to destroy the male role to make a female seem strong... just make her strong and keep the males strong too. how hard is that
you're about 6 years too late with that take.
we're way beyond this by now.
There’s no reason for it too like there’s retcons yea but previous ones I think of helped the overall story retconing something to clarify a plot this show just does it cause the writers are ignorant plugs
i actually think these "strong female characters' look super weak to me. if you have to cow all the characters around them then they must be pathetic. a strong woman would have strong friends.
It doesn't fit "THE MESSAGE"
Also competent female characters don't have to be masculine coded, a great example is Lucy from the Fallout TV series
"A Barbie movie about Ken." Boy, wouldn't that be a sight to see. Imagine the headlines.
Isn’t that kinda what happened though. Like Ken stole the show in the Barbie movie and people loved Ken
"Steel or laser are no threat to them"
A master got killed by a small knife earlier....
A goldfish wrote this show.
Which means: Trinity is Alive.
They should have used the beluga who write for Family Guy. They did a better job than the goldfish.
It was a vibroblade. But I agree that the show is 🗑️
Yo, wait a minute, don't disrespect goldfish by lumping them into this.
I, for one, feel like a goldfish would have put more heart into their writing. Imagine the narrative importance they would place on fish crackers. 🧐
"is she or a they?" the dialogue hopelessly dates the show. 100% sure this culture thing won't be here 10 years from now
It's so depressing that one of my favorite franchises is being used as a tool for talentless hacks to push their worldview instead of trying to create something that everyone can love.
In a nutshell how many old ex blizzard fans have felt over a decade..
It seems so obvious in hindsight. Buy one of the most popular story franchises in history and use its established foundation as a vehicle to push your degenerate worldview.
that's the destructive nature of the woke movement. they could push their agendas through new shows devoted to highlighting their ideas, and no one could realistically have a problem with that, but instead they insist on ruining long standing, well loved stories!
How I felt about the Witcher. The stars aligned. Lore rich world with award winning books and games to pull from. A lead actor absolutely immersed in passion for the character. A studio with a high budget. And "The Message" ruined it. That perfect scenario will never happen again.
@@nerddotcom5817 unfortunately it's looking like history is repeating itself with the warhammer show!
Just remember guys, if you're going to hate watch it, there are ways to do that without giving the rat any money.
Probably less ways than normal since it’s not really being pirated either 😂
or just don’t watch it and go watch something you like
just don't watch it ,and let that woke crap die fast ,
@@WettoSlickens yeah, like Cobra with Dudikoff or Thunder in paradise with Hulk Hogan or even Tropical Heat :)
@@ComradeCommissarYuriWho is an true test of quality
That "dis track" tho.... How is she not embarrassed lol
Disney saying that their audience hates female leads and that Star Wars has been a patriarch is absolutely idiotic. Leia was not only a PRINCESS (who broke the norms of a princess being delicate)- she was also apart of the Senate AND the leader of the whole ass Rebellion. She was an extremely active character that often lead the charge. Not only that, but Padme was a similarly active, strong female character. A whole ass QUEEN and SENATOR who took her roles very seriously. On top of that, she was a beautiful wife who supported and cared for Anakin as he grew into a man. But, please Disney, keep yapping about how women have been neglected in Star Wars. Obviously the cast is more male leaning because at it's core, Star Wars is an epic Sci-Fi franchise with action, war and tons of battle and politics. Be realistic. Our current militia is heavily made of men (more than 80% men), it's just the facts. It's insane to call Star Wars a patriarch when it deals with male dominated topics and themes.
EDIT: As the replies are mentioning, I completely forgot to mention the badass females from The Clone Wars. Some replies list them all and I'd like to highlight Ahsoka (she's genuinely my favorite character, Anakin being my second. I can't believe I forgot to mention TCW characters). Ahsoka's dual wielding was incredibly epic and unique and her character arc over the show was BY FAR one of the most in-depth ones in Star Wars. Ahsoka is the prime example of how George Lucas's Star Wars was NOT AT ALL snoozing when it came to females.
And Asajj Ventress was so compelling and had a very well-written personality and inner conflict. Seeing a dark side female that was actually written really well is why I can't take any of Disney's villains today seriously, lol.
Mon Mothma was the leader technically...
Besides that
There was Ahsoka, Asajj Ventress, Satele Shan, and more characters from the Old Republic era
Mon Mothma led the rebellion.
Regarding to Leia she wasa badass during her first introduction compared to the others.
@@wizardwolf1020 and treya and the fucking exile as well. but yes, there are no strong women in star wars. it's a completely new concept that only disney could come up with....
It appears Asmon was not aware of the level of trash that Disney has been producing.
FOR YEARS! 😂😂😂
good for him, i wish i never bothered getting disney+ in the first place, superhero stuff is my favourite genre but they completely ruined it and made that ruination mainstream. i wish i was more ignorant about this evil company
It's over 9000!
@@rainbowsnekI only got disney+ to watch mandalorian first season, old heroes movies like iron man 1, thor 1 or captain america 1, and things like pirates of caribbean. I dont even bother with new things anymore, disney its so doomed
@@robenriven i stopped watching soon after mando, let a friend use my account instead, then cancelled when they hiked the prices up. there's nothing good on there except the old junk, and you can watch the old junk on yarr matey websites instead, honestly i recommend doing that instead of giving them undeserving money xd
if i want superhero content these days, i go to read some user-made books instead, f*** trying to watch anything new anymore. only good thing (other than some very rare indie gems) i care about was the boys and even that's becoming worse in later seasons.
my other favourite genre is space sci-fi... Man im tired
Xena the Warrior Princess is still much much much better at portraying not only one, but two kind of strong female leads simultaneously, despite aired nearly 30 years ago. What went wrong? Man...
Lucy Lawless and Renee O'Connor looked a lot better than any of the supposed women in The Acolyte.
And they were lesbians in the show. It just wasn't thwarted in our faces
@@erinavery4577 Back in in the day when someone said there were lesbians in a show, you got interested
@@neetogoodgoy6517that's true. Not saying there was anything wrong with it (my comment came out poorly) Lucy Lawless said something of the sort that it wasn't recommended to say it directly to the audience back then. To be honest it didn't need to because their love was obvious i.e. good writing
And on the other side, it was much more popular than the Hercules live action series
This show had Velma vibes. I'm sure there's an audiance for this, but there is just no explanation towards the shareholders.
It's not an inability to read the audience, it's the unwillingness to even consider it.
Kathleen literally say that the Star Wars fandom is male dominated. The problem is that she looks at that as something that needs to be changed. But she definitely know who the fans are.
People were attacking this show before it even came out. Simply because "not enough white man".
Well said
Kathleen's unwillingness to consider the audience is insulting to the fanbase, and Kathleen has said on several occasions that she doesn't care.
It's like your mom making tuna casserole for dinner, you saying, "But I don't want tuna casserole!" Then her getting right up in your face, planting a finger squarely on your chest, and then saying in angry, hushed undertones, "YOU will eat it, and you WILL LIKE IT!"
You're not the audience.
It's sad that genuine complaints/critiques are automatically being labeled as racist, sexist, and every other "ist". Anyone that doesn't like the show is automatically one of those. Why are they not making constructive counterarguments instead of relying on vilifying?
The actual "ist" doesn't even care what these people call them because they're proud of it. The average person is not but they are confused and questioning their own morals because Disney is telling them to out of misplaced guilt
Because their worldview doesn't acknowledge competing ideas. Everything ultimately comes down to power and who is in charge. It's fundamentally what makes all of their art terrible, and all of their characters monsters. If you disagree, then you're just trying to manipulate the power structure and you're an enemy.
People get high on moral grandstanding and preaching to others from their high horse, especially so when thing like ESG and DEI Blackrock/Vanguard etc reinforcing to these people that they're in the right for what they're doing, woke shit gets investment money and this allows people who are freaks and believe all this BS to effectively transform every entertainment IP into a platform for political activism.
Ask Anita Sarkeesian
Use a burner and say stuff back
Ripley wasn't super physically attractive, but her determination, instinct, and emotion made her attractive. especially in Aliens where the character showed motherly instinct. Modern hollywood would hate ripley.
Am I the only one that thought sigourney weaver was very attractive in alien? Feel like I’m going crazy here
@@TheJALT2 No she was damn hot.
Nah, She a stone cold fox... smh
I mean she's not asian supermodel level hot but she's a functionally attractive woman. That's also part of what makes her character believable. She seems like a fairly normal person who's been thrust into a crazy situation. Same with characters like Sarah Connor from Terminator.
I think that at least in the first Alien film it is clear that even if the main character was played by someone like Stallone, simple physical strength and courage would not be enough in the face of a Xenomorph. So Ripley was also the voice of intelligence and common sense - precisely what connects us to her. She was trying to follow protocols in the face of an unknown threat and the other crew ignored her.
14:39 Bad News, Phoebe Waller-Bridge (the women who ended James Bond and destroyed Indiana Jones in their last movies) is writing the new Tomb Raider movie, so expect that IP to be pillaged beyond recognition. 3rd wave feminism is so boring, predictable and trite.
It isn't tinfoil to see the same message fucking everywhere and go "This fucking message is everywhere."
Stop noticing things. Pattern recognition is haram.
"ThE mESsaGe" - Critical Drinker
Do you have a liscence for all that noticing?
Yep. It's one thing to introduce a bunch of cool new female/'dIvErSe' characters. It's quite another to make it so blatantly one-sided (TFA, TROS, Solo, Ahsoka, Acolyte), to tear down all the previous male leads as being incompetent/overshadowed or even downright bad (Obi-Wan, Boba Fett, Mando, TLJ), and to make them all such unbearably copy-paste girlbosses that will never face adversity that actually impacts them. It's so noticeable and boringly predictable at this point that even South Park parodied it. And now when people send a clear message back, let's see what Disney does with it... Oh look, what a surprise: fan-baiting, blaming others to cope for their own incompetence and being out of touch, calling the people that made the franchise great to begin with toxic ists 'n phobes. It's so unbelievably petty this shit couldn't have been headed by anyone other than women (yes, shots fired; you've had close to a decade now and billions of dollars to prove us wrong, and what did ya choose to do, what did ya do, Disney?)
"OBEY 😆😆😆😆
Such a shock that a show with a majority male audience would reject such an anti-male show.
It's not blatantly anti-male but, the real problem is that it's rewriting starwars canon.
@@redflame300so did every single piece of star wars videogame, fan fiction novel, comic, and anything whatsoever that isn't canon. This is canon because Disney owns the rights to the franchise, whether you like it being canon or not, it is. You don't own the rights, you don't get to decide what the canon is. That's called "head canon" and it's just your🌈imagination🌈
@@redflame300nah, rewriting canon is fine, if it still mostly makes sense and the story is good.
This stuff isn't good.
@@EwokyBalboa tru
@@kenaigreek4955 What? He said its rewriting cannon. And it is.
No one even talks about how trash the base of the story even is. Twins being separated at birth and one is bad and one is good is the most basic plot line of all time
I think I remember that kind of story from an old fairy tale book my nan gave me as a kid.
OG Star Wars itself is the basic Hero's Journey story. Its perfectly fine to use classic tropes, you just need decent writing to make it good.
4 episodes in and both are good now LOL
It's the anime effect I swear, and I enjoy anime mainly the OG original hand drawn style. But they get a plot then run it into the ground they cant let a story die. Some of the best shows and movies dont have a clear cut end they leave it open so your left to speculate. This is just someones fanfiction come to life which shouldn't be allowed.
name 2
They make a show for an audience that doesn't even watch Star Wars, then gets mad when the people who are actually invested in Star Wars... don't like the show.
You just can't make this shit up.
They took one of the most profitable domains, and turned it into fucking garbage.
Who would of thought Harvey Weinsteins personal assistant would be a terrible writer....
To be fair, Harvey produced a lot of really excellent cinema.
Bring Harvey back
@@sallyspits Yea, like a bunch of Tarantino films and Fellowship.
Her only skills were taking calls and making appointments.
@@white0thunderwhite0thunder71and probably having meetings with him in his hotel room
would have
Rogue one had a strong female lead, and fans loved it.
Jyn Erso was fucking amazing. One of my personal favorite protagonists in Star Wars. Second only to Luke and Ahsoka. Yes, both are tied in first place for me
So true.
Rogue One was an amazing addition to the Star Wars universe. It worked well, didn't destroy the lore, had excellent character development, and a great storyline/plot.
What went wrong? Why is Disney seemingly destroying a franchise that has endless potential?
She had a man though…doesn’t count. She was hot as well though
Apparently only successful women are those that are forever single.
Such a projection I might add.
All to project that a scenario where successful women can’t be married or in deep relationships. Men would just want to oppress them or overshadow them.
When reality is far from the truth. I found those women that are in the same page as I am and it just makes sense to be together.
She is working on her career, I am working on mine. Both have similar goals and interests.
In the alternative she can go into night clubs and look for a partner there…there is a good chance that they just want to f- them and are a mess
I can go too and find women and get my kicks with the same type of women.
But it’s an environment we aren’t that familiar with and not long term solutions.
With a willing partner you can get a neo traditional approach in place.
Both work
Both do house chores
No time to cook, take out
Doesn’t work out, pre written agreements that I don’t take your stuff and you don’t take mine.
All glued together by a cohesive idea that we are doing all this because we really want to be together. The main premise of even trying to get into a relationship after all
besides the darth vader scene rogue one was mediocre
Yes, but they’ll just say, “You like her because she’s not black.” Etc etc
Dear Disney show runners, read the fucking room.
Imagine a writing room over there though.
@@ClosedEyeVisualisations probably looks like a room full of escaped mental patients
Walking on eggshells probably
They can't write, so maybe they can't read either.
Problem is that the only room they see is the writer's room and its clouded with their own farts.
It's honestly insane that Disney was handed a franchise with a huge, long lasting and loyal fanbase and managed to destroy it. They've literally rewritten and retconned so much of the original story and original characters to the point that it's almost unrecognizable.
It's also really wild to write a bunch of crap characters, hyper specific social ideas, and lazy story lines and then blame fans when they point out that it's trash. I still haven't gotten over Rei's "this dagger has done terrible things!!" while she's toting around the Youngling Slayer 5000. It's just a bunch of people who figured out in a meeting one day that they can somehow blame other people for their own poor performance and no one had the decency to correct it. If the vast majority of people hate your show, and have been hating what you've been doing for some time, maybe consider that hate watching doesn't keep people around that long. It's actual fans who keep giving your content a shot because maaaaaaaaaaybe this time will be different. People loved the Mandalorian even though it was basically "someone kidnapped baby Yoda!! We've gotta get him back!! *baby Yoda eats something and coos*" rinse and repeat. It was reasonably close to the Star Wars setting and didn't retcon anything too crazy because it mostly created its own story in the bounds of that setting or kill off any beloved characters with absurd deaths. It's especially pathetic to try to act like they're trying to 'fight racism!!' with Star Wars in any capacity when THEY REMOVED FINN from the posters for other countries and they edit out so much to show in the Middle East that this trash probably isn't even available there.
The last 3 movies are just blatant attempts at taking what made any popular MALE character and basically trying to replace them with a new character meant to be a fan favorite, usually as a female. Luke is no longer the chosen one, Leia is a Jedi somehow, force healing was suddenly a thing even though soooo many characters have died that apparently didn't need to. At a certain point, it's better to just create actual new stories that at least somewhat stick to the lore.
Space lesbian witches who can reproduce without a male is literally just someone's "what is the Most Feminist you could be? Let's make them that." fantasy. They literally could have had the most basic storyline and a bunch of good action scenes and gotten away with it. A lot of action movies these days are basically like "Here is the justification for a bunch of cool action scenes. Here are the cool action scenes. Good guys win, the day is saved, roll credits." They've gotten so far away from the story tropes people know and love that when you add in all the bullshit it becomes unbearable. The original trilogy worked because people love the story of the heroic journey. The prequels work because it tells the backstory of how Anakin's heroic journey ended with him as the villain. People hated the most recent trilogy because it gave Rei all the abilities others had to work for, and then some more on top, for no reason. They tried to retcon that too but even that was lame. If they had written the Acolyte as it's own IP and not part of Star Wars, just a whodunit set in space, it probably wouldn't have been nearly as hated.
At this point I honestly think they're just trying to capitalize on the hate watching because someone has to be approving funding for this and there's no way they don't see the trends in their audience scores and content.
Also, to be fair, if I realized I had to fight a Wookie after I had already set out on a journey for revenge with my bare hands, I probably would have given up too lol
Space lesbian witches sounds like something Tumblr would write.
@@EdyAlbertoMSGT3 lol yeah, it really just sounds like someone’s feminist power trip super fantasy. Peak feminism, no men involved anywhere for any reason.
@@tj7094
After destroying the family they went after education, now they're on male entertainment
Yeah, I ain't reading all that
I'm happy for you though
Or sad that happened
So the show is about black kids without a father trying to cope... Well well well, I think Disney is being kinda racist there.
lol
Its not racism its called reality.
Probably bringing a real world 'issue' to light through this, but the question is... who do they blame for it? There must always be someone to blame.
@@MrSaw1991 nah its not reality, they had a whole community to care for the kids. in reality even the mother is not present until 6pm after work
the writer for the show has never made any good movies, yet disney gave her the most important position in a show based off one of the most popular franchise of all time, smells like nepotism to me
thats what happens when you hire people based on race and gender not qualifications
According to Harvey's assistant, she went to the premiere of The Force Awakens, chatted with KK a little and that was it. 180 million dollar project based on a handful of words approved. Sounds more like she knew where the skeletons were buried.
Disney have been doing that a lot. Look at the co-writer and director of The marvels
@@Blodhelmsounds like she had a lot of dirt that she cashed in.
Oh yeah. I definitely smell shite.
Well we haven't gotten the "Star Wars Multiverse" yet. So things can still go lower.
Just wait 😅
please don't put ideas like that out there, someone might see and decide to make it so they can further retcon everything good about it to have never existed. Only to then, "somehow return" lol
The MCU became a disaster and the SONY-verse is only getting better. I quit Disney+ because I got tired of their bs and bad writing.
This is where you can tell you're with the REAL FANS OF STAR WARS.
It's called Rebuild the Galaxy, Lego Star Wars. Darth Jar Jar. Been done, made it better. Just go watch a Joe Rogan podcast, plebs.
Star Wars multiverse would save the franchise. It would just make Disney Star Wars the shit timeline.
It's wild to me that the fans are being called racists when pretty much all of us can agree. Mace Windu was an awesome character.
They put shit on top of the pizza, and now trying too say “you ain’t pizza lovers you hate pizza!” Because we don’t want shit on our pizza.
Pretty much
Don't Diss my pineapple pizza. THanks
@@MrHourtar That's funny because I use Pizza toppings as a metaphor for Diversity. Pineapple is fine and delicious, it just doesn't need to be on EVERY single pizza. 😂
I want my pizza BONELESS.
@@marcuscorvin9998 *THIS*
It’s like handing the kingdom off to someone who you thought loved it like you but rather has secretly hated it and now has the opportunity to burn it down to spite you.
This is literally what is happening to the entire western world.
Way to go George!
Yes this is happening! Its planned!
They don’t care if you like it. They are preaching, they think it’s important to spread their message.
Felt this way for a while now. Why else put 180 million towards something knowing it isn’t going to be received well
Yes. People keep talking about how these shows lose money, but the creators don't actually care. They see themselves as so morally "correct" that it's a price they're willing to pay so long as they stay in control of culture to spread their message.
No they're communists. They aren't trying to make money, they are trying to bankrupt and ruin anything capitalistic. They are killing every industry on purpose, as an act of sabotage.
Actually, they are so bad, that they DO care if you like it... and happen to have "dangly bits".
If you like it, they want to take it away from you, by ruining it.
They've been *telling* you, for 50 years, that you have the same value to them, as bicycles do to fish.
This is just the next step.
Several quick bits of evidence to support my claim...
The Last Jedi... KK's t-shirt... all of the gen-swapping... the character-destruction of male characters... how quick they are to blame the audience for not liking their new stuff... their *choices* in who they get to act/write/direct (Headland, Obaid-Chinoy, etc.)... and so on.
And they will keep producing garbage like this as long as investors and company leadership allow themselves to be gaslit by these grifter show runners and writers.
I think what always gets me about shit like this is that we HAVE strong female leads, we have well written stories with good representation. But when shit like the Acolyte bombs the media always acts like there's a problem with the viewers. Like Ellen Ripley was a strong bad ass woman protagonist 45 fucking years ago.
The reason these crap movies, games, and TV shows fail isn't because 'ooga booga white cis men' it's because they're objectively bad. They're poorly written, poorly cast, and only ever serve to push a political agenda, and hey maybe we need more women of color in media, fine, but THIS?! This isn't going to make your average Star Wars consumer suddenly go: "You know racism is bad." it's just going to make them hate the show.
And it keeps happening, over and over, same management, different shit.
Asmond is right about trust. In 1986, the surprise reveal of Samus being a female if you beat the game under 5 hours was received extremely well. People were shocked, hype and thought it was badass. Boys in school talked about it and loved the character even more.
Try that again with a Western studio today.
It’s Asmon. Asmon-gold. It’s definitely not “Asmond”. That looks like a typo of Almond.
@@douglasmurdoch7247 haven't been around baldie much, have you?
For me personally I don’t care about char gender as long as they are badass.
My problem is when they try to make certain gender badass while destroying the other
or when the whole character is built around silly gender politics
or when the character is somehow strong without reason.
Or when they act like an asshole/karen and think they were badass
Which western media is all above
@@sirgoreth9176 I’ve been around from literally since the beginning. Which is why it drives me crazy to see someone randomly misspell his name for no reason. Every time someone writes “asmond” I will write a comment about it. Always have, always will.
Yea but they'd say that doesn't count b/c she follows conventional beauty standards, not lesbian and black ones.
They still don’t want to acknowledge that they baited us all in believing Finn was going to be the Jedi and then took him off the posters in china and other countries. Really did Finn dirty
Forced diversity changes the way you write. Finn wasn't just a character he was a black character and they didn't know what to do with a black character- "I don't knkw make him yell for the white girl a lot."
Here is a conspiracy theory; They know they can pay an "African" American less, an "Actress" even less, and by those aspects combined...
Subvert the Narrative And Fix the U.S. or SNAFU for short.
Real Disney Social Change for fun and profit... Agenda Line 3 clearly says profit.
That upset me so much! I loved Finn, he was so goofy and entertaining. I got chills when he picked up that lightsaber and then nothing ever came of it. A stormtrooper becoming a Jedi as a big part of the movie would have been great
A stormtrooper turned rebel turned jedi is soooo badass. Why not run with that? Jeez...
I didn't mind him not being a Jedi but I hate that they turn him into a joke. I hearing that his lore was that he was one of the best Stormtroopers in the Imperial but was viewed flawed for caring too much for his fellow Stormtroopers.
When they're literally editing the Canon lore online to make things in this show fit, that's unacceptable.
Worst thing is: They are also editing the "Legends" so it fits better with the "Canon"... When I tried to read up some old stories on Wookieepdia, I had to experience that a lot of stuff got changed as described above...
The writing has sucked for decades. I can’t even mindlessly watch them anymore. My vision starts to blur from the constant eye rolling.
@@Maryondo Great wasn't enough that they had to completely fuck up their own canon now they're trying to fuck up the EU canon as well, lovely.
@@phoenixx913 Well, for the EU I am not sure if that's Disney's fault tbh. Could also be the hosts of the websites like Wookieepedia. But the problem remains the same.
Diversity is not usually an issue, it's the inappropriate diversity box ticking that is a problem...
For example, if you have a solitary group of people that are all white but that one main character from that group is black for no reason other than diversity then you have messed up.
Why are they there?
Take the "Not-Hobbits" on the show Rings of Power, a solitary group that wants nothing to do with outsiders. Yet... They are a very diverse group.
The main female protagonist Nori is whiter than a glass of milk and while her daddy is white, her mother is a person of colour.
Now this is not a problem if they lived somewhere like New York and socialised with the outside world but they don't, so where did the genetic diversity come from?
Do they meet with other "Not-Hobbits" and exchange mates during their migration?
Or when they get to their winter destination is it like a city where all young people get to mingle, fall in love, marry, start families, and possibly tribes of their own?
Why is there diversity in a group of beings that shouldn't have any due to their chosen isolation?
Princess Leia didn't wait around to be rescued after she was kidnapped, she waited for her brother to cause a distraction and wrapped her chains around that fat slug's neck for hurting her man...
She took action when necessary and took charge when needed. She was a true female icon and someone for little geeky girls to admire and aspire to.
We also had Red Sonia, Ellen Ripley, Sara Connor, Lara Croft, Lindsey Brigman (The Abyss), and Barbarella, who are just a few examples of strong women written well.
Strong women have always been a part of Fantasy and Sci-Fi, and I find it very insulting when I see them tell me I should like the crap they are pumping out because there has never been any strong Wamen in these genres before...
The point of fantasy is that you either want to sleep with the main character or be the main character/hero.
The old Star Wars books meticulously followed the lore. The retconning was very minimal until Disney got it’s hands on Star Wars.
So true they had to ruin everything to suit their own agenda
It was virtually non-existant before Dave Filloni started wrecking it with his Clone Wars show writing. Disney made it way worse, and predictably Dave doubled down on wrecking even his own older lore. Disney has utterly trashed everything about this IP at every turn, there's nothing left for people who used to love it.
honestly at this point im just waiting until this franchise becomes so abused no one wants it anymore and becomes worthless to the point disney can't even sell it for more than a million dollars
Whoa whoa, I'm a legends guy thru and thru, but am I the only one not forgetting the Boba fett books? Crisis at Bakura? There were some books that was very liberal with the lore and canon.
I don't remember any lore conflicts in the Boba Fett books. And I barely remember Crisis at Bakura.
The funniest part of the music video is that Amandla is bitching about journalist when they already are simpin for Disney and DEI as hard as they can. These people can't even keep track of who their allies are.
Someone with a YT channel = journalist, right? Also, journalism hasn't been about "the truth" for a while now, if she's that bothered she could have used any other opportunity (:
@@stevejohnson6593 I meant IGN and Kotaku, the people that are constantly shilling for the Acolyte, obviously
The show looks like a low budget fan series where half the actors would have fought so hard off screen to be picked as jedi, they forgot how to act.
Because it is probably very low budget. See Asmongold is wrong. Disney are making tons of money from this show. See the show is distributed by Disney, and showrunners pay to Disney for the brand and distribution. Disney do not care if the show is good or not. Money comes from private funds, which pay mostly for Disney name and network. Then they sell the fact their show is on Disney network. So people with the money do not really care about the show. This is relatively new business model, created for streaming platforms, but it is widespread now. That is why we get so many bad movies and shows.
that would imply they could act but there's no and instead the woman is the message here woman are great woman are the best etc meanwhile star wars has always been male dominated it's mostly men who like and watch star wars xD
Low budget fan series has better continuity and story telling.
@@nick3175 there is not show runners this is Disney+ exclusive and Disney has been hemorrhaging subs, not to mention under Disney Star Wars has not been profitable since they bought it.
The Acolyte: $180 M
Dune Part 2: $190 M
Godzilla Minus One : $12 M
Hollywood inflates the cost of production but the difference in quality between Dune and Acolyte is jaw dropping.
It shocks me the amount of Disney bots that defend this garbage. Calling people with braincells like me "toxic" and "not a real star wars fan" for not liking every piece of Star Wars content. I'd argue it is the other way around. This show is not canon, "it can't be"...
One more note, people say that men must hate woman leads in Star Wars, but many people praise Ashoka so that comment makes no sense.
The blaming of one...
The blaming of two...
The blaming of maaannnyyy...
I used to watch a lot of British murder mysteries but when DEI became bigger in the late 2010s, suddenly the murderer was always the one middle class white dude...needless to say this took the drama out of the mystery as you could immediately solve the mystery as soon as you looked at all of the characters. The problem wasn’t the diverse cast, it was that only one person could take morally dubious actions so there was no mystery anymore.
I still can't get over Obi disabling that gate... that is such level of brain worms from creators that I didn't think possible.
That was my first time seeing that and it was set up by incredibly stupid producers or directors. Its like a parking garage gate.
Its so stupid in so many ways 🙄😵😅💩
Let's not forget the entire fourth episode when they infiltrated that stronghold
I was still interested in star wars at the time of watching that in obi wan (I think it was episode one or two) I quickly looked elsewhere for my entertainment after that.
I think that was a miscommunication between writers and VFX. That gate was probably intended to be more impressive than what we ended up getting
you know the funniest thing.
If I made a distrack with the goal of "making black people cry"
I'm labelled as a racist.
"Its not that a big of a deal for them to change lore because they've already changed so much, it's just one more thing, right?"
Hold that energy when you're talking about rings of power season 2 in a couple months. 🙄
"I mean my bf has already hit me dozens of times, what's one more?"
I feel like you’re misinterpreting what he was saying in that moment. “Retcon == Bad” is not absolute. The crux of the issue at hand is that these retcons do nothing to make the story better and in fact make them worse. Lucas himself has a number of retcons as did the extended universe but *generally* they were in service of telling a better story and thus got a pass. Tldr; if the story was better few people would care about minor revisions but it sucks so its another piece of tinder to add to the pile.
He will. He stated multiple times that he just views dumb sequels as fanfiction. I honestly also got into that train of tought after he mentioned it. Instead of wasting my time on multi-million dolar fanfiction movies I'll just find some novels from authors online that actually care about and like the franchise.
RoP can't change the lore.
@@timothymartensen9040yeah sure... black elves wasnt changing anything at all... even the books said how elves were supposed to be and they were able to do that and dont care at all
this is basically galactic WNBA
And the viewers are Caitlan Clark
I'm not even sure Caitlin Clark can save Disney now bro 😞
@@JB-pu8pp I disagree with that, picture this, if you will. It’s the acolyte finale, amandla has just saved the galaxy from Nair spray and razors, ending the tyranny shaved legs and armpits that the lesbos race has endured for millennia.
As our wookie legged protagonist sits in contemplation of her achievements…. A door behind her slowly opens, smoke poors through and the glow of a blue lightsaber appears. Caitlan Clark steps out in full basketball attire…..
“It’s time to make things right in the galaxy once more” Caitlan says.
Cut to black.
I would watch the hell out of that.
@@JB-pu8pp holy 💩 dude, I think I actually just wrote a masterpiece
@@chrisanschau8169you wrote an extended meat canyon film 😂
It’s called “The Thread” because “the Force” is SA.
Hold up you might be on to something
SA?
@@ExponentialCircle SA = S*xual *ssault
@@ExponentialCircle assault
The force is female
11:52 Star Wars wasn't made for a male audience at all. Leah is basically the hero. And it was always highly diverses. Now it's not for everybody, it's by women for women.
Lucas based Star Wars off a Japanese film about Samurai escorting a princess. It was made by a dude for dudes.
Women just love inserting themselves in male spaces
@@oompalumpus699 I don't know where I lost you, but like I said, if you've watched the movies you'd know 4, 5, 6 were for everyone.
@@BusJustice If by "everyone" you mean 80% males and 20% females...sure. Everyone...
@@Plisko1 I think your reductiveness is a thin veil for your inability to understand "everyone".
@@BusJustice First of all Lucas is on record saying it was made for 12 year old kids. That's not "everybody". Second, many "popcorn movies" from that era were targeting males because they were determined to be a bigger influence in movie decisions. That is also not "everybody". Third, if the diehard fans are 80-90% male... the target audience is pretty obvious. YOU may be the one who is being reductive about the definition of "everyone". I do agree that it is now blatantly targeting females...because they think it is dominated by the patriarchy...meaning it was made for men.
" Luke, I am your Father ...and your Mother '
He had the power of two...parents?
"Luke, I am your non-binary identifying pansexual parent... FEEL the power of the fem-side."
Well, mostly your Mother.
Luke, im theirs Mothers.
@@primusro 💀
I’ve never seen a company fail layup after layup so bad that they don’t just miss the shot but the ball rebounds into their face 3 times harder than they threw it
Its an very special skill, more so as you are shooting an gatling laser at an mirror.
You was not forced into doing desperate moves to perhaps survive you did them on purpose with some sort of plan.
Wearing underpants then taking over the world is an plan but has some missing steps.
I’m 55 female. I am sick of being told women don’t watch SW. From the moment I went to see Empire Strikes Back, I loved the explosions, cool space toys, talking robots, weirdly cute psycho space bears. I loved watching Leia kicking butt; supporting her whiney brother so he could become a hero; and trading barbs with Han…all while being a significant and skilled part of the rebel leadership. I’m not a mega fan, I didn’t feel excluded, I just loved the great and diverse charaters; the world building and storytelling. I happily intoduced my son to Star Wars during the prequel years (we even went to see the prequels in theatre this year to celebrate that), and we’ve continued to share the universe through the highs and lows of the Disney content.
Now Disney tells us we are not their target audience and we should shut up and love this badly written, poorly produced rubbish. I don’t love it, I’m not watching it and I’m certainly not paying for it anymore.
You don’t fit the narrative so you don’t count. Or anyone like you
You’re sick of being told women don’t watch it, but you follow that up with “I don’t love it, I’m not watching it, and I don’t pay for it anymore”.
Are Old White ladies running out of things to complain about again?
@@murlocmasher3368 Putting words in a certain order puts them into context. In this case your quoted part refers to the "new" Star Wars while the "being told woman don't watch" refers to the "old" Star Wars. Asmons take here is pretty ignorant or at least badly worded. Yes, the majority of fans are men but there are also quite a few woman that like some good scifi fantasy laser stuff with explosions. And I completely disagree with him on male/female leads deciding whether the majority of men or woman prefer a movie/game. It's about the whole package that delivers on a good story, memorable characters and an interesting world building. Plenty of examples out there with both genders. Now, drink your milk and don't forget the burp.
@@jellygoo yeah context is important. But her rant was ridiculous, so I felt the urge to clown on her.
@@murlocmasher3368 it's okay, it went over your head with your lack of reading comprehension. Please, work on it.
I hear they cut a scene where there's a character called Jor Jor Floyd that gets force choked by Jedi and is screaming "I CAN'T BREATHE"
The single biggest problem with The Acolyte so far is how emotional the Jedi are!! As an old school Star Wars fan, it irks me to no end seeing them get mad or happy. Jedi are supposed to control their emotions. These ones fail hard.
And this is supposed to be un the High Republic era? When the Jedi are supposed to be in GREAT form? Like jeez louize, man.
Sol is emotional because the twins are his Kids. Its basically the biggest foreshadowing they could smack you in the face with, They bring it up multiple times in the show about his attachment to them... People are just morons and can't see it for some reason... Instead they latched onto "Well the Witch said they had no father so that must be true" despite Obiwan Literally lying to Luke in the first movie.
I was thinking if anakin had fallen to the dark side during this era I would be happy to see these Jedi being cut down. Like Imagine an actual plot cleansing from the chosen one.
It's because they've twisted stoicism into "toxic masculinity" of course they can't have that in their sh*tshow
the jedi are supposed to be controlled and stoic, the sith are supposed to be the ones feeding off emotions.
that jedi was smart he took poison so he wouldn't have to be associated with this shit show ever again
Right! He can go home and watch a good movie!
Disney bought the Star Wars Universe without knowing what a Universe is. They released a sequel trilogy without any pre-planned, overarching story. They release show after show on the same terms: whoever is in charge of that show gets to make up canon. Politics and everything else aside, that is absolutely bonkers to me.
Maximal incompetence. Infuriatingly mind-boggling.
I was just thinking this today. Disney is used to simple properties where lore isn’t important. They want the lowest common denominator to get normies to go to the theme parks and buy merch, that’s it. Storytelling is irrelevant
I think it comes back to the stupidity of agendas in TLJ. TFA was made to establish the elements for TLJ. TLJ divided the fandom. Everything since is trying to build on or justify their take on the sequels by way of nostalgia bait or agenda.
@Ruylopez778 That was the consequence, but that's the thing: "elements." Why not "this is the main storyline, y'all flesh out the details"? Weird.
The day the loose their rights on this franchise I will celebrate for days
On the comment about male dominated genres and movies/shows that are made "specifically for men".
That's silly. Lord of the Rings was written by a man that focused on men. But both men and women enjoy it.
Blade was, according to Asmon, written for men. It targets men who enjoy the action-packed content of supernatural fights with guns and blood. But both men and women enjoy it.
The ISSUE is that a lot of these new writers are pushing an agenda way too hard. There's NOTHING wrong with adding women to shows/movies, and there's nothing wrong with adding characters with different sexualities. In fact, it should be encouraged, but not thrown so hard in our faces that it's obvious it was done intentionally rather than naturally.
They do not respect the original content, or the original stories. If they want to incorporate something new and creative to bring in a wider audience, you cannot beat down and rip apart the original so completely that even the blind can see the visual intention. I love Star Wars, I love Star Trek. Back in the day, men will claim they aren't shows/movies catered to women. But it's not about catering to a gender. It's about writing something that is enjoyable without spitting on the fanbase.
I love how during that weird cult chant scene they all get together like they're about do a ritual in unison but then every single woman there does a totally different gesture at every beat in the scene.
It was specifically designed that way. They added different vocal chants from various cultures, FROM EARTH, for this random cult of lesbian space communists. Disney Diversity in a nutshell.
@@widexawake_ there went the budget for the wookie jedi fight
they actually thought this scene was 'artistic' and 'sexy' I bet.
Looked like one of those goofy rage retreats these types go on.
@@uberwarlocker omfg you're right.
It's terrible writing, period. Then you pile on the bad cinematography, endless exposition in dialogue, and lore-breaking story elements, it's just a trainwreck. But once again they insist it's because the fans are "toxic." Unreal gaslighting going on. Plenty of talented diverse writers, directors, and actors that could have been found, but none of them are present here. It's all BS, and I'm never spending another dime on Star Wars, Disney, or anything affiliated with either. Ever.
It's truly hilarious how so many people have layed out in thorough and thoughtful details about where this show fails and exactly how - and yet Disney are acting like they're merely primates bashing away at their keyboards like morons. I mean the fact they pumped $1.1 billion into a trilogy that they didn't even have a beginning - middle - end for shows you the level you're dealing with.
I’d rather go to Six Flags, Magic Mountain, or Knotts berry farm, or Seaworld before I ever go to Disney theme park ever again
All of this. This show killed me, and I'm very tolerant.
Gave the whole show a watch with a "I'll give my opinion once the full season plays out" attitude. I love SW and really tried. It was just a poorly written story. Period.
Evil never creates, it only destroys.
Jews
the Ki Adi Mundi fumble is so bad because it was 100% avoidable. There is no point to Ki Adi Mundi being there other than memberberries which is asinine.
Mundi's birthday was made uncanon years ago
Legit question, where do they invest the hundreds of millions of dollars that these shows cost? Because it definitely wasn't in the costumes, there is no chance of it being with the senario, much less special effects, no way in hell it was in the sound. And of course the script shouldn't have cost much since a high school teenager could probably have done better... Where do they invest all that big money? Because there is not a single thing i can tell "oh theres all that money went" in the show.
Advertising, FX, cast & crew and locations. Feels like they are massively overspending for the show to cost that much, but that's mostly where it would have gone to.
It's laundering.
@@axiss5840exactly. Lots of people getting rich and writing it off the books. Godzilla minus one cost 20 million and it’s a masterpiece. Each episode of this show costs $22.5 million. It’s 💯 money laundering.
It really does look like money laundering.
Disney - "The force is female"
Also Disney - (Knocks up a bunch of space witches with the force)
How dare you assume "its" gender
Trans-female but also a lesbian who knocks up space witches is the same as "female" is what they meant, apparently.
@@kyankukkiwonthat was said by the director of the acolyte
I think it proves the force is Male. The force is just spreading its love over the Lesbians.
My dog just took a giant Acolyte on the carpet 💩
Because it isn't Star Wars anymore, it's something entirely different and disgusting now. How are they going to get mad at the OG Fan base of StarWars that don't like something that has nothing to do with Star Wars? Like WTF did they expect haha???
He is the speaker
Disgusting? You saw the prequels, last jedi, rise of skywalker, obi-won, but you draw the line at black space lesbians?
What isn't Star Wars about it?
Everything after Revenge of the Sith doesn't exist to me. When they didn't take the Timothy Zahn "Heir to the Empire" story with Thrawn I knew it was all going to be trash.
We just need to let them squeal, not give them money, and pretend their creative work doesn't exist when it gets mentioned.
@@kittenburger_primehe didn’t say anything about space lesbians . You’re projecting
Asmon says he doesn’t care about lore as long as the story is good. This is an idiotic take on his part because lore is supposed to be world building which adds structure to the current events. History in real life is important to get right because if people change it at any given moment then it’ll be inconsistent. Very much in shows and movies if the lore isn’t consistent then it’ll make the show less appealing.
Amon’s ideology boils down to this. “I only eat burgers so I don’t care if the restaurant changes their menu, as long as they have burgers I’m happy” which isn’t bad on its own but then him saying he doesn’t care about lore is him saying “I don’t care if others don’t get what they want, as long as I get what I want then I’m happy”.
Imagine thinking youre rage against the machine while cashing a cheque from the mouse
BlackRock is owned (45%) by BANK OF AMERICA, aka Warren Buffet.
Lmao preach it 😂
"you have every right to not like something for whatever reason you want and nobody has the right to take that away from you"
your point is?
@@itz_ottohe just spelled out the point... what do you want? lol
@@vario6492 to know what the point of quoting asmondgold was
What if I'm racist against men of a certain race, particularly those of a certain nationality? Racist as in "just don't like them" with little logic as to why, their physical appearance and a stereotypical view of their behavior/mindset being the basis of this prejudice. Don't like seeing them with women not of their race even. Isn't that a problem? It is internal and doesn't affect (to my knowledge) how I treat such individuals. I've given guys like this the best advice I can offer, helped with their homework, gave my lunch to one guy because they didn't have any, etc. But the prejudice remains. I want them to be happy...*but*...there's often a caveat regarding them that no one else gets.
@@wastrelperv if you dont like them, you dont like them. Cant change that, wont change. Youre entilted to not like someone who dosent like someone, if that makes sense. Go figure why so many people and I mean a lot around the world, turn racist.
no budget but 22 mil an episode the highest budget they had was 5 lightsabers on screen for 1.5 seconds
That's because 21 million went into the pockets of the higher-ups. Same thing in AAA games.
This is a big, fat money-laundering scheme.
Never underestimate how the expense of the learning process scales up to the cost of the learning materials. Getting what you want in the storyboard stage - before you're actually spending huge amounts of money just to see what something looks like - as well as learning to tell whether today's urge to scrap the past week's worth of shooting and rewrite is genuinely justified... these are learned skills and they require having made movies ([Edit: or serialized television shows]) to acquire. Inexperience costs a lot.
I bet most of the budget was to pay women more.
Nearly doubling the entire budget of Minus One.
Sw series spends money on later episodes. True for boba get, obi wan and asohka series
people who think the hate is coming from a racist point of view need to take a look at star trek the next generation , this show has a very multicultural cast and all the characters are well written and lovable with that good 'ol 80's theatrical dialogue
In regards to tomb raider and underworld, the fact that they're hot is definitely a factor but the biggest difference is that they were always women. Most men just hate when you take a long established male character, turn them into a woman and then chastise them when they reject it.
And still to this day, the opening scene in Underworld where Kate does her Super Hero landing... best landing in cinema history.
Just like people don't have a problem with a black actor playing Blade or Shaft.
The real problem of today's entertainmant, in my opinion, isn't a so called culture war. It's franchise. Everything must be attached to a franchise, to a name known since at least the 80's.
And the result is that we have bastard children. Sometimes for the worst (Velma... It has nothing to do with Scooby Doo, it should have been its own thing. And then fail because it's terrible). Sometimes for the better (The movie Joker has pretty much nothing to do with the clown prince of crime. But it's a great movie nonetheless).
And because everything has to be tied with a franchise, creators will bend, distort, corrupt those existing franchises to fit what they want to tell. And it will create anger and frustration from the fans. And the creators will call it racism.
No sure when this has happened? I'm sure it has, but how much of this is happening that anyone cares about?
This whole take by Zack was terrible.
"Guys don't like playing games with female leads"
Okay so what about Horizon? Tomb Raider? Beyond Good and Evil? Bayonette? Etc?
"Oh, well that's because they are hot. If they are hot that's fine otherwise people would rather play as a dude"
My friend, main protagonists are almost universally good looking so what are you even talking about.
women have always been loved by the men in starwars. Princess Leia was loved when she was being a bad ass as much as when she was in the slave bikini. Natalie portman in the prequels was the queen and a senator. Freaking Felicity Jones in Rogue One is one of my favorite Star Wars Characters.
black children growing up only with mothers is so normal in the states they just go with it and call them witches on top! ... amazing
Wow, I didn't even realize that. That's awful, lol
Is that the white mans fault? Or the black father's? Does not matter what colour. And i do understand economic restraints.
This is why I watch anime. It doesnt talk down to its viewers. In fact, anime talks you UP while western entertainment talks you down.
Edit after watching: Ugh, tell them to just get john favraeu and dave feloni to bring back Galen Marrack, man. Bring back the good stuffs, please, dear god. I just want the awesome to come back. Its called "Legends" for a reason. And those directors are in fact legendary as hell
I prefer the old terms "Expanded Universe" and "Extended Universe" as even though it was legendary, "Legends" insinuates that none of it at all could possibly be canon. Some for good reasons like when Han fist fought a giant sentient ferret, and others for no reason like how Kyle Katarn and Jan Ors were the ones to get the Death Star plans in the Dark Forces games.
'it doesn't talk down to its viewers'
Is this a joke? The average anime is so poorly written they literally provide inner monologue in most of them to exposition dump 😂
@@jeffferreira1321 animation is expensive and labor intensive
The problem is not strong women, lesbian relationships, or people of a different skin colour. Netflix Arcane proves this clearly, with 96% acceptance on Rotten Tomatoes. The authors' miserable writing, a story full of holes and nonsense so that the planned plot makes halfway sense, lousy direction, and wooden-looking actors-that's the problem. It's a mystery to me how a reasonably educated person can consider Acolyte good because this series insulted my and other viewers' and Star Wars fans' intelligence.
House of the Dragon is popping off and race, sexuality, and gender have been major issues for the several strong female leads. Even if we're all bigots the Acolyte sucks.
On top of that I’m pretty sure people would get upset if you blame them for being racist and bigots because they did not like your poorly made show.
True
True and real. I'm a traditionally inclined person, and even I liked Arcane. Beautifully written, and every character's action had logic in it.
@@Mozers05 And this is the main point! If you write a story that places the character in the first place, instead of putting your personal ideas or "agenda" in it, people would more likely accept it, regardless of whether they generally have another opinion.
Why cant they just make an original show called LGBT Witches in Space. They can make up all their own characters and stories.
Because that wouldnt have the fans of Star Wars. Thats what they wanna do, take a succesfull franchise and use It for their own political views, and Still profit on It. And also, It is Just too much work, too expensive, and no one would be willing to finance a project they know is doomed. So they hide their agendas on existing stuff.
Call it "black magic" or something idk
Honestly your idea would have made the show better probably lol. It feels like the story being set in the star wars universe is just hindering them tbh with most plot holes, retcons or bad writing moment due to them trying to sidestep something which was deeply build into the cannon lore
Because almost no one would actually watch it.
They are here to ruin everything not make new good stuff.