I've been hunting for food for 40 years, As long as you eat the Bear that's cool, but I don't believe in any kind of trophy hunting. My nephew has a Henry he like's it alot but, I think I still prefer the old Marlins. I wish Marlin's QC was as it was in my day, but I hear it's getting better.
bluesman1063 hunting for food is bad. We should only grow our meat at super market freezers it comes out of no where. Bears are indangered species u cant hurt them.
I find it really irritating when UA-cam shows ads on demonetized videos. Their ethics seem to stop at “oh - we can still make money off this content - just the content creator can’t.”
Thanks for going over the malfunction....I've had this happen in Wyoming in a very sketchy ordeal in grizzly country. After living there for 7 years I learned quickly that depending on your ammo is EVERYTHING
Quick tip for fixing that Henry loading problem with the Hornadys. I had the same issue, if you spin the tube back and forth while pushing it down (180 degrees to the left 180* to right, rinse and repeat) it will go down no problem!
I love a 45-70. Been hunting with a Marlin 45-70 for almost 40 years now. Bought it used for $200 back then, and it has never let me down. Enjoyed you're vid by the way.
Short Story, My brother, father and I went on a bear hunt in Montana. Where it was free range hunting. My brother shot a black bear in the chest about 25-30yds with a 7mm-magnum. The bullet exited the bear’s left side. We tracked it for over a mile through some of the roughest Montana mountains. There was a spot we found where the bear had rested against a huge pine tree. And in fact. Packed it’s wound with dirt. At this point, I realized bear are very tough. And pretty smart.
i shot one with a 30-06 about 80 yards max. gave it 15 min and grabbed the 45-70. after tracking it for a wile in thick thick brush i thought to my self this seams like the spot i began.... the dang thing double back on me then went to the truck. good thing my buddy was on the road. shot and missed at 100. it went in to the bush again and went parallel with the truck.... then crossed the road to get behind me. all i heard was the first shot so i looked up to see this 300+ pound bear wounded coming right at me hahahha so i popped it in the chest and it dropped just to crawl with what ever it had left to get me hahahahah my buddys first hunt and it was a bear. pretty sweet if you ask me. so yea there tough as iron. wish the grizzle hunt ban would get lifted in my area.
7GEREZ Can you tell me how you know the bear packed it’s own wound with dirt please? Did you find its lost phone with bear selfies on it? 😁 Half taking the piss here.....
@Dave Alexander Actually I have a XLR JM stamp 45-70 and the new GBL I got a couple of years ago. The first run of Rems where terrible. The new ones are awesome. I got the GBL for $450 brand new. If you know how to use a 1895 I could unload the tube without cycling the action. All you do is push in the bullet stop and the there you go!!
While I have always admired The Henry rifle's fit and finish, and like their general appearance, the tube loading is a dealbreaker for me. My first centerfire rifle, purchased with a G.I. check, in 1975, was a Marlin 336. This was one of their premium rifles. The quality of the wood, the bluing of the metal parts and general fit and finish, are nowhere to be found in Remlin's rifles, on the market today. I have handled a Henry rifle in the Scheels in Billings, MT. The quality reminded me of the quality of the Marlin I bought min 1975. I just don't appreciate the logic behind including a feature that was made obsolete by John Moses Browning in the 1870s. I can tolerate this tube on a Marlin MDL 60, 22LR, but on a highish powered centerfire rifle, I find it anachronistic. In fact, I consider it a flaw. A flaw on what would be a pretty desirable rifle w/o this idiotic feature. A glaring flaw on a fairly expensive rifle.
As a Henry owner, I kinda agree. Tube loading is pretty dangerous, IMO. Reeeeaaaly hard to maintain muzzle control when sticking your hand right in front of the muzzle at weird angles. Plus, no chance of topping off or easy loading. The new Henry rifles all have gates though. I might consider swapping mine out for that reason.
Same reason I skipped the Henry and went with a Marlin, at the time there was no loading gate option, I don't care for tube loading especially in the field, very easy to drop ammo etc. in the dirt and hard not to point the rifle at part of you. I like to be able to keep the ammo easily topped off, you never know when your hunting rifle could become your self defense rifle when out in the field.
If your not aware they make side gate loading models now. I have one in 45-70 and it’s awesome. Still have the option to load with the tube. I use the tube to unload the gun instead of having to cycle all the rounds.
I'm from New Brunswick, and I can confirm the back country skeeters were terrible that year. Long winter meant nonfood for the birds in the spring, and many died off. When the bugs finally came there wasn't enough birds to eat them all. If I wasn't packing extra beer and bbq weight, they would of carried me off
Hornady Brass is also about an 8th of an inch shorter to allow that tipped bullet to fit the OAL specs in lever guns. I found this out when I tried to re-load the brass for my Marlin. I found that Speer 300gr Hollowpoints kill Whitetails like lightning.
People who make bad shots inflate old myths about animals toughness to shift blame to their equipment. Grizzlys and their "impenetrable skull plate", hogs and their "armored shoulder", etc. How did an old .50 cal round ball ever kill these critters years ago?
My Henry 44 mag will certainly get locked up if you have the lever open when you load the tube, but it's easily fixed by unscrewing the lever and pulling it out you can see the round and poke it back up the tube with a plastic chamber flag or equal to it.
hmm, i havent noticed that problem with the hornaday ammo in my henry rifle, but if it hangs up at all while pushing the mag shut a slight rotating jiggle usually unsticks any tube mag issues i have without having to force them, same works with my grandads 80 year old 22 rifle
The new side loading Henry must have eliminated the problem you had with the Hornady Leverevolution ammo. No problems with my JM Marlin guide gun, and I find it very accurate.
Looked like he could’ve had reloads with FTX projectiles with standard length brass cases. LeverEvolution ammo cases are about .050” shorter than normal SAAMI spec 45/70 ammo.
I just checked the several brands of 45-70 ammo I have on hand. The "lip" on the Hornady ammo is less pronounced than on the Federal I have and is the same on the Remington and Winchester ammo, so that appears to be more to do with the Henry loading tube than ammunition in general the Lehigh seems to be the exception rather than the rule, I've not had issues in my Marlin 1895 with any of them.
Tallest PB is in Klamath Ca standing 49 feet tall the 4 others in North America are 31 ft tall :) love the content brother keep it up! .444 marlin is one of my favorite cartridges followed closely by the .45/70 it's a absolute blast thump stuff with!
It's not just Henry. It's been common for Marlin 45-70's to jam as well. I was under the impression it was the edge of the feeding gate catching the rim.
Love the 45-70... Never even thought of putting any kind of scope on it. always just open sights for the last 20 years. Hmmm. might consider a red dot though maybe. take a lot of re-learning though.
need to change the follower in that rifle and you can use the Hornady ammo. the Hornady case is actually a different length than flat nose 45-70 ammo. i had to do that and now it works perfectly. the crazy part is, it worked fine during the sight in, then jammed after shooting a deer. luckily i didn't need a follow up shot
Concerning the issues with uncrimped ammo, Henry does not recommend Hornady Leverevolution and unfortunately they only listed a couple ammo brands to shoot throught this model, one being Federal's line which is good enough for me. I also reload so I can control the tolerance at the crimp (H010). My issue wasn't so much the loading tube, but the shell carrier getting gouged up inside the action. Henry sent me a new one, reluctantly, so I didn't have to send my rifle in and now I just use Federal or reloads. If you can live with that the rifle is excellent.
The Federal Hammerdown I have has a more pronounced lip than any other ammo brands I have in 45-70, despite being called premium and having the nickel plated cases. It all works fine in my Marlin. Interesting Henry doesn't recommend the Hornady ammo.
@@fiveowaf454 well that's exactly it....it's an issue that needs addressing I think because the Leverevolution was the best shooting ammo that I ran through the rifle with a slightly better velocity and made by one of the best ammo companies in the business. I gather they don't recommend it because of the carrier issue I described.
@@fiveowaf454 Yeah they only recommended like two makes of ammo (believe it or not!)....one being Federal which is another high performer that I like to use, so that's what I stick with unless I'm reloading my own cartridges which I can control the crimp and use whatever components I like including Leverevolution bullets.
I really enjoyed the video, Its nice to hear someone talk about proper shot placement on bears, 100% agree with you. Interesting I have been playing with a Marlin 1895 cowboy here in Alberta, and it does not like to feed Hornady Leverevolution into the chamber, loads alright into the tube but when I go to chamber, jams up on the lip just like you showed with your tube. The other ammo point I found interesting was how you grouped tighter with +p ammo, I reloaded a bunch of 405gr flat nose ammo and the higher the velocity the better my rifle liked it setting out at 1950fps for a nice 1/2 inch group at 100, really happy I put a nice recoil pad because it really helps and makes shooting those rounds enjoyable.
Love your t-shirt!!! Where did you get it?? I have a Henry lever in the .45-70!! Love it!! I shoot the Hornady LEVEREVOLUTION .325 grn. 2050fps. I haven’t tried any other ammo. Love the seafood too!!!!! Thanks for the great video!!! Cheers brother!!!!🇺🇸
FPs doesn't mean crap, what barrel length did they test the ammo in. I have had a Marlin 45-70 SS since 76, have shot a lot of handloads, some of the powder doesn't burn before bullet exits the barrel!
Those Henry’s are awesome rifles! I want! I currently own a original “JM” 1895 Marlin guide gun aka: Pre-“Marlington” (pers (Remington owned and poorly manufactured) rifle. I used it quite a bit for black bears and a few big Russian boars. It hits them all hard. My rifle doesn’t like the 300 gr bullets as it’s really not as accurate. The 405gr loads which I prefer anyways, is extremely accurate. I can’t wait to get a Henry in .45-70 and one in .44mag.
In Maine we judge bears by their ear size. A huge bear has little Oreo sized ears while a little 100 pounders ears look big compared to his head. I'm a photographer and I've been to Bangor and seen Paul Bunyan countless times. At your video time stamp 4:54, if you would have taken one or two steps to your left and taken a picture, it looks like Paul Bunyan is sticking up his middle finger. That's because the handle of the peavey in his left hand is lined up with his right hand. It's a pretty common local joke. Oh and I do believe that is the tallest Paul Bunyan statue.? Great video. Thank you for sharing.
I use custom made shaped solid copper rounds like the Extrme Penetrator/Hunters in my 10mm Glock side arm for wilderness use and it stopped a charging bull moose dead in its tracks a couple years back now up on the Kenai. I'm a BIG believer in these rounds and I dont even load HCL rounds anymore. The machines 165gr pill doing ~1500fps from my G40 does some devastating things.
... maybe I was born under a lucky star ... never had any jamming or malfunction issues with the factory 325 grain Hornady FTX factory ammo in my Marlin 1895GS ... that tube feed is great for a .22LR ... nuff said😁
My Henary i can get 5 rounds in the tube and 1 on the chanbber and if it hits on the tune rod i just work it in and it does fine so my Henary works fine with 6 rounds total
I have a question. You said you were going to hunt in Canada. Do you have your Canadian pal or rpal? Or is there another way for an American to legally bring a rifle into Canada?
I had high expectations for the extreme penetrators with my Henry all weather, could not cycle more than one round without a jam, open for suggestions.
Dave Alexander... I’m a bit tongue-in-cheek here, but I sincerely don’t have any of the issues you describe specific to my Marlin. Functions great and used frequently. W/re/to grabbers, one good thing about Lever guns... The grabbers also have tough yarn to spin them into a “military style weapon”, though some day soon they may to contain evil features.
I shot a bear with a flatnose 210 grain 30,06 . Directly in the heart as she stood on her hind legs 15 yards from me. I found her 200 yards away under a ton of brush. Tough as nails.
For that feeding problem, blame the rifle manufacturer. I had the 1895 all weather marlin in 45/70 and it loaded easy and jacked rounds, the same Leverlution rounds by Hornady that you have. Never had a loading or feeding problem, lol but my rifle was a pre-Remington buy out of marlin (sigh, boy did the dirty the Marlin brand!)
The problem with the Remington Marlins was the Marlin machinery they inherited and moved to the new factory, it was worn out and they had no original drawings and specs for the rifles. They stopped production and Remington bought new machinery and literally had to reverse engineer the rifles to get the correct specs. After that the Remington Marlins were fantastic, I have two of them an 1895 and an 1894, wonderful quality and performance. Alas the "dirtying of the Marlin Brand" had already occurred before they stopped production with the old machines and switched to the new and that lives on forever in internet history.
I understand completely the issue with inserting the tube with the Hornady rounds. My Henry 22lr often has the same issue with some rounds. I dont blame Henry though. Instead of trying to man-handle the tube, and shoving it down; pretend she's a lovely lady, and gently gyrate the knobbed end. That'll get the tube off the lip.
Before you press your next bullet with those grease grooves put some bore Buttler into all except the leading edge/front on by taping it or something then put some little 💥 crackle balls used in fireworks 💥 and test it in low light situation.
4:20 negligent discharge, finger on trigger as lever closes = surprise boom! Never ever trust a Henry rifle in the field, but they're cute at the range. Here in Northern Alberta the bears get plenty big and most are taken by 7mm and 30 cal bullets.
Those East coast bears are like big dogs, you have a charging West coast brown bear that averages 1100 pounds charging you it's a little different and they are very hard to stop. The best spot to I've had 2 friends empty both of their 30/30s into one and finally the last round he shot in the neck as it stood up and that stopped it. Anyway those small black bears are nothing like a brown bear or a grizzly.
The quietest animal in the forest is the bear, the lion, and the deer. I have hunted all three and I think the bear is the stealthiest critter in the woods. Looked to be a good time, thanks for sharing.
Why are you trying to put the bullets in upside down? How do you plan on shooting the gun? I shot a 45 /70 Henery and have never had a problem. The tube of the Herny easily fits over the case. I reload 100 % of my rounds you must crimp each case to keep the bullet from creeping in the case upon discard of the rifle.
Thoughts on PITa?
trash
This isn’t about pita but I can’t find your videos on full30
I've been hunting for food for 40 years, As long as you eat the Bear that's cool, but I don't believe in any kind of trophy hunting.
My nephew has a Henry he like's it alot but, I think I still prefer the old Marlins.
I wish Marlin's QC was as it was in my day, but I hear it's getting better.
bluesman1063 hunting for food is bad. We should only grow our meat at super market freezers it comes out of no where. Bears are indangered species u cant hurt them.
It's a solid flatbread
I find it really irritating when UA-cam shows ads on demonetized videos. Their ethics seem to stop at “oh - we can still make money off this content - just the content creator can’t.”
And that's why I have an Ad Blocker installed...for free. I never see ANY ads on here. Life is sweet without those mundane ads!
@@getsum697 Which one you using?
@@roflstomps324 I use the BRAVE browser and I downloaded from their app site for free...works great!
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Everyone at UA-cam serves Satan.
Thanks for going over the malfunction....I've had this happen in Wyoming in a very sketchy ordeal in grizzly country. After living there for 7 years I learned quickly that depending on your ammo is EVERYTHING
Quick tip for fixing that Henry loading problem with the Hornadys. I had the same issue, if you spin the tube back and forth while pushing it down (180 degrees to the left 180* to right, rinse and repeat) it will go down no problem!
Sounds good but I've never tried it. Thanks 😊 for your help
This works on my Henry also
I love a 45-70. Been hunting with a Marlin 45-70 for almost 40 years now. Bought it used for $200 back then, and it has never let me down. Enjoyed you're vid by the way.
Too much B.S.
@@karlmarx6487 How so?
That was 15 minutes I'll never get back
I was talking to my brother last night about the 45-70 in Modern Warfare and now there's this on my recommend list......
They're listening.
Scary shit, making me want a zipper for my mouth or get rid of these damn machines
Collin Manning yup.
Absolutely they are.
Just out of curiosity, do you have an Alexa or was your phone near?
Its not the NSA that's spying on us, it's fucking Google so they can sell directed advertising.
Short Story,
My brother, father and I went on a bear hunt in Montana. Where it was free range hunting. My brother shot a black bear in the chest about 25-30yds with a 7mm-magnum. The bullet exited the bear’s left side. We tracked it for over a mile through some of the roughest Montana mountains. There was a spot we found where the bear had rested against a huge pine tree. And in fact. Packed it’s wound with dirt. At this point, I realized bear are very tough. And pretty smart.
i shot one with a 30-06 about 80 yards max. gave it 15 min and grabbed the 45-70. after tracking it for a wile in thick thick brush i thought to my self this seams like the spot i began.... the dang thing double back on me then went to the truck. good thing my buddy was on the road. shot and missed at 100. it went in to the bush again and went parallel with the truck.... then crossed the road to get behind me. all i heard was the first shot so i looked up to see this 300+ pound bear wounded coming right at me hahahha so i popped it in the chest and it dropped just to crawl with what ever it had left to get me hahahahah my buddys first hunt and it was a bear. pretty sweet if you ask me. so yea there tough as iron. wish the grizzle hunt ban would get lifted in my area.
Hard to beat the 4570 for dangerous game
coady 4570 no you didn’t, you are a liar and you and your “buddy” were just out smoking meth and tugging each other off
Dylan Leaman Anderson are you well? What makes you doubt his story instead of giving benefit of the doubt
7GEREZ Can you tell me how you know the bear packed it’s own wound with dirt please? Did you find its lost phone with bear selfies on it? 😁 Half taking the piss here.....
Loved my marlin sbl 45-70. I shot HSM bear load.... and the occasional 500 gr hand cast...
Lmao Tim wells knocked a bear down with a damn blow gun
Simple, use Marlin rifles !
Guide Gun!
Lol, I'll take a 50 year old savage or winchester over a new marlin anyday
@Dave Alexander Actually I have a XLR JM stamp 45-70 and the new GBL I got a couple of years ago. The first run of Rems where terrible. The new ones are awesome. I got the GBL for $450 brand new. If you know how to use a 1895 I could unload the tube without cycling the action. All you do is push in the bullet stop and the there you go!!
@Dave Alexander Thank you for the kind words!
Marlin 1895 SBL all day long.
45-70 ain't no joke.
I lived in New Brunswick most of my life and it was some of the best bear and moose hunting I have ever experienced.. sure miss it...
what caliber was used for bears?
I used 308 win , 12ga slug , 303, for the most part. Started useingv45/70 about 10 years ago .
Why don't you hunt no more ??
Or did you move away ??
🤔🤔
@@derekcroft2055 had to leave the province to find work . Still hunt hard lol .
The "Quadrilateral of Family Friendliness" is the funniest thing ive seen all day!
Nice you went to the Gun Dealer as well. Welcome to New Brunswick.
While I have always admired The Henry rifle's fit and finish, and like their general appearance, the tube loading is a dealbreaker for me.
My first centerfire rifle, purchased with a G.I. check, in 1975, was a Marlin 336. This was one of their premium rifles. The quality of the wood, the bluing of the metal parts and general fit and finish, are nowhere to be found in Remlin's rifles, on the market today.
I have handled a Henry rifle in the Scheels in Billings, MT. The quality reminded me of the quality of the Marlin I bought min 1975.
I just don't appreciate the logic behind including a feature that was made obsolete by John Moses Browning in the 1870s. I can tolerate this tube on a Marlin MDL 60, 22LR, but on a highish powered centerfire rifle, I find it anachronistic. In fact, I consider it a flaw. A flaw on what would be a pretty desirable rifle w/o this idiotic feature. A glaring flaw on a fairly expensive rifle.
As a Henry owner, I kinda agree. Tube loading is pretty dangerous, IMO. Reeeeaaaly hard to maintain muzzle control when sticking your hand right in front of the muzzle at weird angles. Plus, no chance of topping off or easy loading.
The new Henry rifles all have gates though. I might consider swapping mine out for that reason.
Same reason I skipped the Henry and went with a Marlin, at the time there was no loading gate option, I don't care for tube loading especially in the field, very easy to drop ammo etc. in the dirt and hard not to point the rifle at part of you. I like to be able to keep the ammo easily topped off, you never know when your hunting rifle could become your self defense rifle when out in the field.
If your not aware they make side gate loading models now. I have one in 45-70 and it’s awesome. Still have the option to load with the tube. I use the tube to unload the gun instead of having to cycle all the rounds.
I'm from New Brunswick, and I can confirm the back country skeeters were terrible that year. Long winter meant nonfood for the birds in the spring, and many died off. When the bugs finally came there wasn't enough birds to eat them all. If I wasn't packing extra beer and bbq weight, they would of carried me off
Haha
Shoots +P makes him giggle every time and he says much to his displeasure... Yeah!? PUH-Lease! He loved it!
Where can we see the video of the results of that load on the bear ?
Hornady Brass is also about an 8th of an inch shorter to allow that tipped bullet to fit the OAL specs in lever guns. I found this out when I tried to re-load the brass for my Marlin. I found that Speer 300gr Hollowpoints kill Whitetails like lightning.
Mine is the same way. Dremel with polish bit to the inside of the mag tube
Spin the tube mag as you run it down and you won’t have issues.
Always been a little on the fence about whether or not I should buy this rifle but now I'm 100% set on getting one
We had trouble with hornady 45-70 lever action cases splitting
Shot hundreds out of a marlin 1895 with no issues. Prefer barnes 300 GN rounds though.
Hit with a .30-30 and seen the next year? Where did they hit it and which ammo load was it?
People who make bad shots inflate old myths about animals toughness to shift blame to their equipment. Grizzlys and their "impenetrable skull plate", hogs and their "armored shoulder", etc. How did an old .50 cal round ball ever kill these critters years ago?
Even if you can not get a shot you are satisfied. That is hunting. Thanks for sharing
My Henry 44 mag will certainly get locked up if you have the lever open when you load the tube, but it's easily fixed by unscrewing the lever and pulling it out you can see the round and poke it back up the tube with a plastic chamber flag or equal to it.
hmm, i havent noticed that problem with the hornaday ammo in my henry rifle, but if it hangs up at all while pushing the mag shut a slight rotating jiggle usually unsticks any tube mag issues i have without having to force them, same works with my grandads 80 year old 22 rifle
The new side loading Henry must have eliminated the problem you had with the Hornady Leverevolution ammo. No problems with my JM Marlin guide gun, and I find it very accurate.
Looked like he could’ve had reloads with FTX projectiles with standard length brass cases. LeverEvolution ammo cases are about .050” shorter than normal SAAMI spec 45/70 ammo.
I just checked the several brands of 45-70 ammo I have on hand. The "lip" on the Hornady ammo is less pronounced than on the Federal I have and is the same on the Remington and Winchester ammo, so that appears to be more to do with the Henry loading tube than ammunition in general the Lehigh seems to be the exception rather than the rule, I've not had issues in my Marlin 1895 with any of them.
@@vanparker2161leverlution jammed my loading gate twice on the x model bullet would get stuck half way out of the tube
Newfoundland is a half hour ahead of that. If it's 12:00 in NYC, It's 13:30 in St. John's, Newfoundland.
Tallest PB is in Klamath Ca standing 49 feet tall the 4 others in North America are 31 ft tall :) love the content brother keep it up! .444 marlin is one of my favorite cartridges followed closely by the .45/70 it's a absolute blast thump stuff with!
I've never seen a squishy bear in the wild.
It's not just Henry. It's been common for Marlin 45-70's to jam as well. I was under the impression it was the edge of the feeding gate catching the rim.
Bears aren’t squishy. They’re quite cuddly and squeezable. Just wanna give them a big hug
Thanks for the shout out! Give us a heads up next time your up this way and we'll hit the range.
yah i was surprised to find him come to NB
@@thecrimsonops lol yeah I was surprised to run into him at Faulkner's
Can you hunt with Silencers in Canada? Are you allowed to carry a .44 or a 10rd 10mm ?
VSO I really enjoyed this video. Thanks for producing useful and interesting videos!
My Henry came with a Skinner peep sight!! What little scope do you have on your rifle??
I have the Henry H010 steel and it runs the Hornady with zero problems
Love the 45-70... Never even thought of putting any kind of scope on it. always just open sights for the last 20 years. Hmmm. might consider a red dot though maybe. take a lot of re-learning though.
need to change the follower in that rifle and you can use the Hornady ammo. the Hornady case is actually a different length than flat nose 45-70 ammo. i had to do that and now it works perfectly. the crazy part is, it worked fine during the sight in, then jammed after shooting a deer. luckily i didn't need a follow up shot
That Henry is a great lookin rifle. I can’t afford one but they’re sure nice.
Randle Richardson about $650 where i live for. .45-70 henry
I really want one but I'm in California and pickings are slim right now.
Concerning the issues with uncrimped ammo, Henry does not recommend Hornady Leverevolution and unfortunately they only listed a couple ammo brands to shoot throught this model, one being Federal's line which is good enough for me. I also reload so I can control the tolerance at the crimp (H010). My issue wasn't so much the loading tube, but the shell carrier getting gouged up inside the action. Henry sent me a new one, reluctantly, so I didn't have to send my rifle in and now I just use Federal or reloads. If you can live with that the rifle is excellent.
The Federal Hammerdown I have has a more pronounced lip than any other ammo brands I have in 45-70, despite being called premium and having the nickel plated cases. It all works fine in my Marlin. Interesting Henry doesn't recommend the Hornady ammo.
@@fiveowaf454 well that's exactly it....it's an issue that needs addressing I think because the Leverevolution was the best shooting ammo that I ran through the rifle with a slightly better velocity and made by one of the best ammo companies in the business. I gather they don't recommend it because of the carrier issue I described.
@@bigriver3278 Based on my own ammo collection I'd expect the issue to be prevalent with many ammo brands/types as they have the lip too.
@@fiveowaf454 Yeah they only recommended like two makes of ammo (believe it or not!)....one being Federal which is another high performer that I like to use, so that's what I stick with unless I'm reloading my own cartridges which I can control the crimp and use whatever components I like including Leverevolution bullets.
I really enjoyed the video, Its nice to hear someone talk about proper shot placement on bears, 100% agree with you. Interesting I have been playing with a Marlin 1895 cowboy here in Alberta, and it does not like to feed Hornady Leverevolution into the chamber, loads alright into the tube but when I go to chamber, jams up on the lip just like you showed with your tube. The other ammo point I found interesting was how you grouped tighter with +p ammo, I reloaded a bunch of 405gr flat nose ammo and the higher the velocity the better my rifle liked it setting out at 1950fps for a nice 1/2 inch group at 100, really happy I put a nice recoil pad because it really helps and makes shooting those rounds enjoyable.
That scoped octagonal barrel was a beauty
I am glad I listened to the whole video
That thing flashes like a Krinkoff! A 45 70 lever action is definitely on my list.
Love your t-shirt!!! Where did you get it?? I have a Henry lever in the .45-70!! Love it!! I shoot the Hornady LEVEREVOLUTION .325 grn. 2050fps. I haven’t tried any other ammo. Love the seafood too!!!!! Thanks for the great video!!! Cheers brother!!!!🇺🇸
FPs doesn't mean crap, what barrel length did they test the ammo in. I have had a Marlin 45-70 SS since 76, have shot a lot of handloads, some of the powder doesn't burn before bullet exits the barrel!
Those Henry’s are awesome rifles! I want! I currently own a original “JM” 1895 Marlin guide gun aka: Pre-“Marlington” (pers (Remington owned and poorly manufactured) rifle. I used it quite a bit for black bears and a few big Russian boars. It hits them all hard. My rifle doesn’t like the 300 gr bullets as it’s really not as accurate. The 405gr loads which I prefer anyways, is extremely accurate. I can’t wait to get a Henry in .45-70 and one in .44mag.
In Maine we judge bears by their ear size. A huge bear has little Oreo sized ears while a little 100 pounders ears look big compared to his head.
I'm a photographer and I've been to Bangor and seen Paul Bunyan countless times. At your video time stamp 4:54, if you would have taken one or two steps to your left and taken a picture, it looks like Paul Bunyan is sticking up his middle finger. That's because the handle of the peavey in his left hand is lined up with his right hand. It's a pretty common local joke. Oh and I do believe that is the tallest Paul Bunyan statue.?
Great video. Thank you for sharing.
Better luck next time brother!!! Good video!!!
I use custom made shaped solid copper rounds like the Extrme Penetrator/Hunters in my 10mm Glock side arm for wilderness use and it stopped a charging bull moose dead in its tracks a couple years back now up on the Kenai. I'm a BIG believer in these rounds and I dont even load HCL rounds anymore. The machines 165gr pill doing ~1500fps from my G40 does some devastating things.
... maybe I was born under a lucky star ... never had any jamming or malfunction issues with the factory 325 grain Hornady FTX factory ammo in my Marlin 1895GS ... that tube feed is great for a .22LR ... nuff said😁
i guess youtube likes bears
No problems with my Henry and Hornady Leverevolution.
That's got to be the nicest gun ever hands down
My Henary i can get 5 rounds in the tube and 1 on the chanbber and if it hits on the tune rod i just work it in and it does fine so my Henary works fine with 6 rounds total
I have a Henry 45-70 and also have that same ammo and mine hangs up as well.
Bet you're upset you didn't take that day 1 bear. Remember the first rule of hunting.
Never understood why Henry has that tube load feature? It is not classic lever gun at all!! What compels them to make those things?
How much chamber pressure do these rounds put out?
Just picked up a Henry all weather 45-70 today. Nice video!
I'll never get my 15 minutes back, watch a hunting video with no hunting in it. Baloney.
I have a question. You said you were going to hunt in Canada. Do you have your Canadian pal or rpal? Or is there another way for an American to legally bring a rifle into Canada?
I had high expectations for the extreme penetrators with my Henry all weather, could not cycle more than one round without a jam, open for suggestions.
Buy a Marlin 1895 SBL, mine cycles everything I put through it, and so does my brother’s 😎👍
@@Roninforged my marlin wouldn't cycle the hornady.
The Hornady round seems to work well in the marlin rifle
Better deburring. But its still a real issue for hornaday
Interesting problem with the Horady in the Henry. I don’t have that my Marlin.
It's pretty much only the Henry with that issue.
Realize that...
Dave Alexander... I’m a bit tongue-in-cheek here, but I sincerely don’t have any of the issues you describe specific to my Marlin. Functions great and used frequently. W/re/to grabbers, one good thing about Lever guns... The grabbers also have tough yarn to spin them into a “military style weapon”, though some day soon they may to contain evil features.
@@Doc.Holiday probably depends on when and where it was made.
Bear hunting was fun, but I was happy to just go.
The VSO Gun Channel Do you have uncensored pics on social media?
The problem is a design flaw from Henry's magazine system. The Hornady bullets dont have feed problems in other arms of a different manufacturer
the hornady with the soft tip hangs up on every tube load gun I have tried. never a problem with a side load gate.
I want my 15 minutes back. This is the only bear hunting video I’ve seen with no bear hunting.
What optic did you use..?????
The great northern mosquito is many times taken lightly before its actually experienced
If this video is demonitized why did I see an add?
Limited ads. Also, they run ads and then don’t pay creators all the time.
@@VSO_Gun_Channel wow that seems super shitty.
@@VSO_Gun_Channel UA-cam it's totally fine making money off content they deem not monetizable that's hilarious.
This is why we complain.
I shot a bear with a flatnose 210 grain 30,06 . Directly in the heart as she stood on her hind legs 15 yards from me. I found her 200 yards away under a ton of brush.
Tough as nails.
For that feeding problem, blame the rifle manufacturer. I had the 1895 all weather marlin in 45/70 and it loaded easy and jacked rounds, the same Leverlution rounds by Hornady that you have. Never had a loading or feeding problem, lol but my rifle was a pre-Remington buy out of marlin (sigh, boy did the dirty the Marlin brand!)
The problem with the Remington Marlins was the Marlin machinery they inherited and moved to the new factory, it was worn out and they had no original drawings and specs for the rifles. They stopped production and Remington bought new machinery and literally had to reverse engineer the rifles to get the correct specs. After that the Remington Marlins were fantastic, I have two of them an 1895 and an 1894, wonderful quality and performance. Alas the "dirtying of the Marlin Brand" had already occurred before they stopped production with the old machines and switched to the new and that lives on forever in internet history.
Marlin no problem. I have not and would never use a tube loading rifle. Not since I was a kid with my first 22 rifle.
Do you think 30 30 not a good round for black bear?
What guide service did you use in New Brunswick?
Yall got to squeeze the shoulder harder for dem big boys. It can be harder to aim but saves ya shoulder.
Hornady is not all it's cracked up to be considered how expensive it is.
I shoot the hornady 325g there 29.99 a box ...that kinda cheap really
What are your thoughts on the X model 45-70 compared to the all weather 45-70 you used in this video?
I understand completely the issue with inserting the tube with the Hornady rounds. My Henry 22lr often has the same issue with some rounds. I dont blame Henry though. Instead of trying to man-handle the tube, and shoving it down; pretend she's a lovely lady, and gently gyrate the knobbed end. That'll get the tube off the lip.
Thanks for sharing your adventure. Looks like one hell of a good time.
The Hornady round is quite impressive too.
Yeah but that lip will make me not buy it. Sometimes its the little things u know?
Before you press your next bullet with those grease grooves put some bore Buttler into all except the leading edge/front on by taping it or something then put some little 💥 crackle balls used in fireworks 💥 and test it in low light situation.
You mistake me for a reloader. Reloading is for serfs
Yeah man, I'm about lever actions and eating my way through my travels.
4:20 negligent discharge, finger on trigger as lever closes = surprise boom! Never ever trust a Henry rifle in the field, but they're cute at the range. Here in Northern Alberta the bears get plenty big and most are taken by 7mm and 30 cal bullets.
Nothing at 4:20 to see. Keep your grubby finger off the trigger until you intend to fire, no surprises.
Those East coast bears are like big dogs, you have a charging West coast brown bear that averages 1100 pounds charging you it's a little different and they are very hard to stop. The best spot to I've had 2 friends empty both of their 30/30s into one and finally the last round he shot in the neck as it stood up and that stopped it. Anyway those small black bears are nothing like a brown bear or a grizzly.
Evidently you don't know about Pennsylvania and NC black bears. Not uncommon to see 600 lbs + and several here in PA have reached 800 - 900 lbs!!!
Cool video pal. Love the Henry. Happy shooting from the UK!
The quietest animal in the forest is the bear, the lion, and the deer.
I have hunted all three and I think the bear is the stealthiest critter in the woods.
Looked to be a good time, thanks for sharing.
No solo hunting cats are considerably more stealthy. Jaguar, leopard, panther, etc.
@@DangerRussDayZ6533 find many jaguar in the woods?
@@diesel5355 Jaguar typically live in jungle.. so yes.
@@diesel5355 had no idea they do a good 4x4 off road.
Why are you trying to put the bullets in upside down? How do you plan on shooting the gun? I shot a 45 /70 Henery and have never had a problem. The tube of the Herny easily fits
over the case. I reload 100 % of my rounds you must crimp each case to keep the bullet from creeping in the case upon discard of the rifle.
What sight are you running?
I'm watching that stock dig 4 inches into your shoulder every shot.
Those shells are no joke
Were bolt actions allowed? What kind of restrictions are there on weapons you can use?
What?! You can hunt with bolt guns, lever actions, shotguns, muzzleloaders. You can't hunt with hand guns or restricted firearms like ar-15s.
When this video started, I thought he was going after brown or grizzley bears. A 3030 is fine for black bear.
A 160grn 30-30 can kill ANY bear with one or two well placed shots.... These vidoes are silly.
Well said and true to much unessary bull s--t in these viedos.to much talking and yaking.a 45.70 will put down anything in north America nuff said.
It’s a hunting trip. These trips need to be thought through more carefully if you think that a .45-70 is a requirement to survive the hunt.
I have the same issue with the Hornady ammo in my 44. Henry the lip on the hull catches the tube and makes it little harder to load
I can't believe that guy never noticed his bullets was hanging up before the hunting trip
He just wanted to use the fancy bullets....
My thoughts as well, did he not sight the rifle in for that round if he was going to use it?