I agree 1000% But does not mean u have to Obey the Tyrants, they can kiss my BUTT. I don't have an E-bike, Cannot afford one. But I could, I would get whatever one I want.
It's not politicians who ruined this - it's the asshole bikers who are busting wheelies down sidewalks and mobbing with 100 other morons down the street The SurRon kids ruined it all for us and their lazy parents are also to blame
you vote for Democrat idiots , this is the result. you voted to have these people make decisions for you. fire = FAIL ebike = FAIL . keep it up and they will monitor your walking speed.
Removing the throttle on level 3 bikes is a pretty useless regulation, this only takes away a safety feature to help slow speed starts. Where we need regulation is with teens and younger riding with little or no concern for their own or anyone elses safety.
I 100% agree. I ride my ebike in Cali everyday and I follow the rules of the road to a T. Defensive riding and always being mindful of pedestrians (slow down to around 10mph when passing). Parents need to be fined for their kids being assholes. I am SICK of how little accountability there is among families. I'm a teacher and I'm sick of it - hoping to switch industries soon even though I'm a pretty decorated educator. It ain't worth these horrible adults
Just watch a few videos where teenagers are speeding and reckless driving around pedestrians some in front of cops and many accidents. Parents need to fully responsible and face fines as well as taking the bike. Laws must be in place for children
So as long as I don't go over 20 miles an hour then I'm a class two right. Even though I have the capability to go over 20 miles an hour the officer as long as he doesn't catch me going faster than 20 I'm allowed to have a separate throttle correct?
I've never understood the throttle fear-mongering and class 1/2/3 system in 2024. I get better reactivity and control on a busy street with a throttle, so why wouldn't I want my Class 3 commuter bike to be just as navigable at all speeds? I'm seriously disappointed that the "dynamically switches classes to throttle ≤20, assist ≤28" loophole has been closed: they should be fixing the assumptions behind these laws and not codifying against convenient safe commuter ebikes like the Radster Road
I agree about the reactivity. On my RadWagon, I feel like I crawl thru intersections when going from a stop. On my Annioki A8, I can beat most cars off the line - that results in less traffic congestion and I am not a slow hazard, I'm staying with the flow of cars and I respect the laws. My Annioki feels like a motorbike and that's what I feel most safe on when riding on the roads - it also is built for those speeds unlike many ebikes that are conversions made to top out at 20mph
In Huntington Beach California they are enforcing E- bike laws, especially the surrons they'll impound those except for the ones that have been plated but even if your plated, if your in a park or a beach trail they'll get you there HB has a motor patrol
Impounding the bikes is the only clear message that will stick. Losing the bike is one thing, paying those daily impound fines as you try to get the correct paperwork and certs from the DMV will change a lot of folks. This feels like the stealing at self-checkouts - so many Americans engaging in terrible, unethical behavior because they have no empathy or morals. It's a sign of the times - the wealth gaps are too big, the middle class is chaos
Thanks for the clear explanation. I think these laws close loopholes and are needed. They have to give law enforcement some power to regulate kids that ride recklessly. If you're over 16 or not reckless on your ebike, then it'll never be an issue. I've seen major streets taken over in Huntington Beach California by large packs of kids on e-bikes with no fear of consequences, or speeding up and hitching onto an unsuspecting car for fun...and now this just gives cops a bit more authority to discipline them. I'm all for it. Also...are these laws enforced now or starting January 2026? I've seen sites say 2025 but I read some of the laws and it mentioned 2026.
Californian's will continue to ride whatever ebike they feel like. Im certain of that. Maybe they are looking for a new source of revenue out there for their budget deficit.
Seems California is following Australian and European laws, all new e bikes sold cannot have a full throttle or achieve above speed limit imposed on bike label (250w max in AU) unless its used for "Off Road" only, Throttle only e bikes without pedals are deemed a vehicle and must be registered for on road use and you will also need a licence. Pedal throttle combination retail sellers will be banned from selling on road e bikes unless throttle has a max speed of 5mph/8kmph which can assist walking the bike due to weight. In Australia you must be at least 16 to ride an e bike or scooter and all riders must wear a helmet ($50 on spot fine) Under 16 are regulated to 8Kph. Break the new laws and nothing will happen unless you are involved in a vehicle accident with the e bike.. the motor will be checked by both police and insurance companies and electronics tested for limiter tampering, To tell you the truth I have rarely missed the throttle on my new e bike and have never seen anyone stopped and fined other than being spoken to for no helmet but I do know of people who were charged after vehicle accident for riding an unregistered vehicle due to e bike being above 250w AU EU specs. You guys are lucky at least you can sill have 750W.
Get ready to read a bit of a book Lance. I was going to be doing a video on this at some point, but it will probably be old news. I had some complications with my final treatment and so they’ve got me on some heavy duty medication that I’m not even allowed to drive. This too shall pass. Here we go, class 3 has always been pedal assist only. It is that way in all states that recognize the class system. The idea that you can have a bike that goes to 20 on the throttle and then pedal assist to 28 has been pushed out by manufacturers. They know very well what the law is but they are looking for any loophole they can. This is one of the reasons that they send out bikes for their . Marketing to somebody else that will show everybody how to do this. It’s just getting them off the hook legally. BTW, I think this has a lot to do with the lack of customer service from these companies. They know this is on its way and they’re looking for the short term profit, not the long-term health of their business because they know their business days are limited, at least as far as the amount of market that they are reaching right now. They did make a bit of a change or clarification by spelling out that 750 W is the maximum. You are correct law-enforcement is not going to be able to do much about this. I see everybody talking about this is no big deal because of that. We happen to have quite a lot of experience in how the government actually works. When law-enforcement cannot enforce laws, they just make new ones. As you can see in their pilot program, they are now going to be forcing manufacturers to not be able to modify. That would include changing the settings. This is why I have been talking about separating between what is already legal and what is not. If that would have been done, bikes that are legal would not be getting messed with, but as it stands, they are about to be. What probably will happen is that they are going to have requirements on how the bikes are sold. You will not be able to get these faster bikes. The ones people have now, when they’re broken down, that will end up ending the faster E bikes. This is going to cut the market down quite a lot. That’s just some thoughts from an old cowboy that has seen this happen in the past.
@southernebiking I agree with everything you said. Sorry to hear about the complications, but praying for you and a quick recovery and a clean bill of health.
This is exactly right, you won't be able to purchase non compliant bikes. I am personally looking for a bike to commute, I honestly have no interest at all in pedal assist. I want a vehicle with a throttle. The other thing I see as a concern is replacement controllers and motors, these regulations seem like that will make that market illegal by your read. Not good.
Its simple, the ebike that no longer fit a class 3 ebike under the new law and is now a MOPED which can have a throttle. They now required to be registered a special license plate and a one time $26 registration fee.
By federal definition of a Class 3 electric bicycle: A bicycle equipped with a motor that provides assistance only when the rider is pedaling, and that ceases to provide assistance when the bicycle reaches the speed of 28 miles per hour and is equipped with a speedometer. If the bike has a throttle, it's not Class 3 and if it can exceed 20 MPH with throttle it's not Class 2. What to call it is a different question. I think that the current definitions are quite confusing to consumers and also allow too much room for "interpretation" by manufacturers. So they sell a "Class 2" e-bike with an "on-road/off-road" switch that lets it throttle up to 30+ MPH, or lets the motor put out 1 KW or more power. I ride in CA and am thinking about getting an e-bike. I'll probably limit myself to Class 1 as that seems to be the most useable in places like state and county parks. Some places permit 1-3, but many are Class 1 only and some prohibit all e-bikes, no matter the class. I see rangers running radar speed traps on some of the local MTB trails and recently saw a radar speed sign set up on a local multi-use trail. All these trails have 15 MPH speed limits, so even Class 1 e-bikes can exceed that.
Heavier and bulkier than standard bicycles, electric bikes require staying more alert and even include features that could become hazardous if suddenly becoming out of control. This is why standards play such an important role in keeping everything familiar regardless of what the bike's brand is. Accomplishing that would require more interaction between the CPSC and the various electric bike designers. Use of e-bikes occurs more in highly populated cities, residential, and vacation areas, and are seldom ever seen in the remaining and vast majority of this wonderful country. Although suitable for making trips up to 50+ miles, they are considered to be too slow to ride safely on state highways, and have proven too many times to be vulnerable when ridden without any lane protection that fully prevents intrusion by vehicle traffic. Downtown commuters in the major cities probably comprise the biggest group of e-bike riders. There would be more grammar school kids riding them except for the age and driver license requirements by some states. Seniors that have a safe route to travel can benefit from riding them. Otherwise, there is a huge gap in most of this country where e-bikes are just not so practical to use, and people tend to have other priorities waiting on their bucket lists to bother with them. With these recently amended rules for 2025, waiting a couple of years to see how the public accepts or rejects e-bikes can help to determine the role they play in the future. I personally doubt there will be any sudden surge in the sales, nor see any other major changes in the future of e-bikes. Electric bikes have not actually presented a significant solution that would invite more riders, who would argue it's because they are not fast enough to be practical and stay with traffic. The counter argument is that they are not safe to ride in crowded traffic. There are a few more arguments regarding their safety and their known reputation to catch fire in the worst possible places. No doubt, some training is necessary and greatly beneficial to those not wary of the dangers. Outside of sponsored group rides on trails and obscure back roads, there is no actual sport related to owning an e-bike. Some are MTBs and used for training on mountain trails, and they are probably the best constructed e-bikes available. I would believe that this e-bike industry will remain so sluggish that attempting to put added rules and regulations on them would cause their demise. Better to let local authorities who know their areas best write the rules that will keep the public safe when ridden on multi-use areas, roads, and trails.
I will talk to our state representatives in Michigan when we get wind of any such legislation. Bike clubs or groups will unite. Thousands of ebike owners. The new laws if any must not apply to bikes that were purchased before laws are enacted. Reasonable proof of purchase date should be obtained or recorded. So thousands of bikes worth millions of dollars spent by citizens are not lost holdings.
I ride my EUC at that park all the time, it's on the corner of Branham and Snell! I wonder if we ever passed each other. If you ever see me wave me down. Say wassup
Sounds like the alarm has just rung, so if you want an e-bike that'll take you up to 28 MPH via pedal assist, you should probably buy from whatever stock is available. My bet? Manufacturers are going to have to comply if they want to sell their bikes in California and other states with this restriction, so after all the current stock is gone, all you'll be able to get in these states will be class 2 bikes. Question: What will California and these other states do about those e-motos that can reach must faster speeds? Force them to be registered with the DMV, charge the owners for annual renewal, and require the owners to carry insurance like they do to motorists?
In Australia no pedals or above 250W (ausie limit) It is classed as a vehicle and must be registered unless for off road use only, I can see US eventually going the same way.
After this law was announced, I now feel very lucky to have a 32mph and a 42mph ebike and both aren't dirt bike styles (thank god 😅) I feel bad for anyone with a SurRon, Talaria, Eride pro, etc in California - the silhouette alone will make you a target for cops But honestly it's about time with all the douchebags who mob around streets and sidewalks. They ruined it for everyone
I live in San Diego. My neighbor is a SDPD officer and admits she has no clue how e-moto regulation and enforcement will work, if anything at all. A for honesty at least.
so i just brought 750 watt ebike that throttles up to 28 mph. is it not considered a class 3. is it now a motor vehicle, not an ebike? do i need insurance? can i not ride it at all?
Up until this new law, class 3 ebikes (pedal assist to 28). could have a throttle as long as the throttle didn't go past 20. The bike could still be pedal assisted to 28. If your bike throttles all the way to 28 it was not legal even before this new law. The dealership you bought it from probably sold it to you so they could get rid of it.
Michigan has a share the road law. Bikes can and in most cases must use traffic lanes in the streets. Bicycles going only 20 or 28 mph are going to really cause a ton of road rage incidents. Cars must wait behind bikes for safe places to pass and give 5 feet of distance while passing. Lol.. A bicycle going 35 or faster would be less likely to draw out angry conflicts. Ebike riders already fear fast traffic and if speeds are reduced slower, automobile and truck operators will be highly enraged 😂😂
Seen this coming. Just putting into law what the classes were supposed to be. In know it's CA so everyone has something to say, but people are taking these ebikes and basically creating e motorcycles out of them and mobbing around like d heads. Before a cop would be like "hey stop, no, ok" now they can say "well well well what do we have here".
So this new law is saying that your 750w e-bike is now technically illegal. The law now says that no e-bike motor shall surpass 750 watts in peak power. Since most all 750w motors easily surpass 750 watts, these motors now fall outside of these new ebike regulations. Just about every fat tire e-bike out there has a 750w motor that can peak from 900 to maybe 1,300 watts. So I guess these bikes can no longer be sold in CA? This is utter BS.
I'm sitting here staring at my dual motor ebike w 1500 watts on each motor that peak at 3k 😂 Currently using a Sharpie to cross out all the streets I want to avoid in my city 😅
@@theridewithlance Cop: You are going 28 mph on your e bike, Lance: i am trying to get away from a shooting. Cop: No excuse, give me your ID so i can write you a ticket.
These laws are made by politicians who have Karen's as constituents. You know, those boomers who hate seeing people enjoy themselves. Meanwhile, automobiles, which are more capable of gore and violence, to the point where one vehicle can easily kill 10 people and injure 30, have no speed limit and no input restrictions.
For fucks sake, why is anyone over 16 crying over this? If you have a regular drivers license you can ride a moped. So even if they make them moperds, it won't matter. If you're under 16, well, too bad.
@@terryrccrazy6993 You must adhere to law for insurance purposes! Go above new law specs and you will be classed as an unregistered vehicle and be liable for any insurance claims if involved in an accident.
I am sick and tired of politicians telling us what we can and we can't have. What we can do and what we can't do.
People need to vote better
I agree 1000% But does not mean u have to Obey the Tyrants, they can kiss my BUTT. I don't have an E-bike, Cannot afford one. But I could, I would get whatever one I want.
It's not politicians who ruined this - it's the asshole bikers who are busting wheelies down sidewalks and mobbing with 100 other morons down the street
The SurRon kids ruined it all for us and their lazy parents are also to blame
@@stevel105😂
you vote for Democrat idiots , this is the result. you voted to have these people make decisions for you. fire = FAIL ebike = FAIL . keep it up and they will monitor your walking speed.
Removing the throttle on level 3 bikes is a pretty useless regulation, this only takes away a safety feature to help slow speed starts. Where we need regulation is with teens and younger riding with little or no concern for their own or anyone elses safety.
I 100% agree. I ride my ebike in Cali everyday and I follow the rules of the road to a T. Defensive riding and always being mindful of pedestrians (slow down to around 10mph when passing).
Parents need to be fined for their kids being assholes. I am SICK of how little accountability there is among families. I'm a teacher and I'm sick of it - hoping to switch industries soon even though I'm a pretty decorated educator. It ain't worth these horrible adults
Nah, the throttle on 20 mph on a 28mph peddle assist bike is still legal.
Just watch a few videos where teenagers are speeding and reckless driving around pedestrians some in front of cops and many accidents. Parents need to fully responsible and face fines as well as taking the bike. Laws must be in place for children
28 mph pedal assist and 20 mph throttle limit e-bikes are still gladly legal to the new law thankfully.
Whew!
My class 3 is just like this, pedal assist to 28MPH but can only thumb throttle to 20mph thank you for the info!
If you're in Oakland, California, and police attempt to pull you over, just keep going. They are not allowed to chase 😂
LOA
@flynnstone3580 they literally are not allowed to chase. They can't even chase criminals in stolen cars it's a city ordinance.
@flynnstone3580 They can't chase you in Oakland. City ordinance doesn't allow it.
And if they run into a trigger-happy pig who doesn't know that law, then what?
@@SerPounceToebeans LIke I said bro, I stay in Oakland police aren't allowed to police..
So as long as I don't go over 20 miles an hour then I'm a class two right. Even though I have the capability to go over 20 miles an hour the officer as long as he doesn't catch me going faster than 20 I'm allowed to have a separate throttle correct?
I've never understood the throttle fear-mongering and class 1/2/3 system in 2024. I get better reactivity and control on a busy street with a throttle, so why wouldn't I want my Class 3 commuter bike to be just as navigable at all speeds?
I'm seriously disappointed that the "dynamically switches classes to throttle ≤20, assist ≤28" loophole has been closed: they should be fixing the assumptions behind these laws and not codifying against convenient safe commuter ebikes like the Radster Road
I agree about the reactivity. On my RadWagon, I feel like I crawl thru intersections when going from a stop. On my Annioki A8, I can beat most cars off the line - that results in less traffic congestion and I am not a slow hazard, I'm staying with the flow of cars and I respect the laws.
My Annioki feels like a motorbike and that's what I feel most safe on when riding on the roads - it also is built for those speeds unlike many ebikes that are conversions made to top out at 20mph
The throttle 20 and peddle assist 28 is still legal according to the law.
In Huntington Beach California they are enforcing E- bike laws, especially the surrons they'll impound those except for the ones that have been plated but even if your plated, if your in a park or a beach trail they'll get you there HB has a motor patrol
Impounding the bikes is the only clear message that will stick. Losing the bike is one thing, paying those daily impound fines as you try to get the correct paperwork and certs from the DMV will change a lot of folks.
This feels like the stealing at self-checkouts - so many Americans engaging in terrible, unethical behavior because they have no empathy or morals. It's a sign of the times - the wealth gaps are too big, the middle class is chaos
That’s a good thing. I hate this young dip shits who ride those on boardwalks and bike lanes.
Thanks for the clear explanation. I think these laws close loopholes and are needed. They have to give law enforcement some power to regulate kids that ride recklessly. If you're over 16 or not reckless on your ebike, then it'll never be an issue. I've seen major streets taken over in Huntington Beach California by large packs of kids on e-bikes with no fear of consequences, or speeding up and hitching onto an unsuspecting car for fun...and now this just gives cops a bit more authority to discipline them. I'm all for it.
Also...are these laws enforced now or starting January 2026? I've seen sites say 2025 but I read some of the laws and it mentioned 2026.
Yet they keep electing these people in CA.
Yeap, but not me.
You should see recent laws in Florida. Key Biscayne banned e-bikes all together. It’s not only a California thing.
Is it same rule with Gas scooter, electric scooter ?
Please tell me ,can i buy 1500w scooter
Now falls under the catagory of a Moped which can have a throttle.
Californian's will continue to ride whatever ebike they feel like. Im certain of that. Maybe they are looking for a new source of revenue out there for their budget deficit.
Seems California is following Australian and European laws, all new e bikes sold cannot have a full throttle or achieve above speed limit imposed on bike label (250w max in AU) unless its used for "Off Road" only, Throttle only e bikes without pedals are deemed a vehicle and must be registered for on road use and you will also need a licence. Pedal throttle combination retail sellers will be banned from selling on road e bikes unless throttle has a max speed of 5mph/8kmph which can assist walking the bike due to weight. In Australia you must be at least 16 to ride an e bike or scooter and all riders must wear a helmet ($50 on spot fine) Under 16 are regulated to 8Kph. Break the new laws and nothing will happen unless you are involved in a vehicle accident with the e bike.. the motor will be checked by both police and insurance companies and electronics tested for limiter tampering, To tell you the truth I have rarely missed the throttle on my new e bike and have never seen anyone stopped and fined other than being spoken to for no helmet but I do know of people who were charged after vehicle accident for riding an unregistered vehicle due to e bike being above 250w AU EU specs.
You guys are lucky at least you can sill have 750W.
Get ready to read a bit of a book Lance. I was going to be doing a video on this at some point, but it will probably be old news. I had some complications with my final treatment and so they’ve got me on some heavy duty medication that I’m not even allowed to drive. This too shall pass.
Here we go, class 3 has always been pedal assist only. It is that way in all states that recognize the class system. The idea that you can have a bike that goes to 20 on the throttle and then pedal assist to 28 has been pushed out by manufacturers. They know very well what the law is but they are looking for any loophole they can. This is one of the reasons that they send out bikes for their . Marketing to somebody else that will show everybody how to do this. It’s just getting them off the hook legally. BTW, I think this has a lot to do with the lack of customer service from these companies. They know this is on its way and they’re looking for the short term profit, not the long-term health of their business because they know their business days are limited, at least as far as the amount of market that they are reaching right now.
They did make a bit of a change or clarification by spelling out that 750 W is the maximum. You are correct law-enforcement is not going to be able to do much about this. I see everybody talking about this is no big deal because of that. We happen to have quite a lot of experience in how the government actually works. When law-enforcement cannot enforce laws, they just make new ones. As you can see in their pilot program, they are now going to be forcing manufacturers to not be able to modify. That would include changing the settings. This is why I have been talking about separating between what is already legal and what is not. If that would have been done, bikes that are legal would not be getting messed with, but as it stands, they are about to be.
What probably will happen is that they are going to have requirements on how the bikes are sold. You will not be able to get these faster bikes. The ones people have now, when they’re broken down, that will end up ending the faster E bikes. This is going to cut the market down quite a lot.
That’s just some thoughts from an old cowboy that has seen this happen in the past.
@southernebiking I agree with everything you said. Sorry to hear about the complications, but praying for you and a quick recovery and a clean bill of health.
This is exactly right, you won't be able to purchase non compliant bikes.
I am personally looking for a bike to commute, I honestly have no interest at all in pedal assist. I want a vehicle with a throttle.
The other thing I see as a concern is replacement controllers and motors, these regulations seem like that will make that market illegal by your read.
Not good.
The 28 mph peddle assist and 20 throttle is still legal according to the new law.
@ not on the same bike. A class three bike is pedal assist only..
I guess in California they’re putting the Ebike laws on the back burner
Its simple, the ebike that no longer fit a class 3 ebike under the new law and is now a MOPED which can have a throttle. They now required to be registered a special license plate and a one time $26 registration fee.
Okay sow what to do if I got a throttle e bike for Christmas…
All e bikes can have the throttle disabled by simply unclipping the wire at the joiner up at the handle bars that goes into the throttle
If it's a class 2 you're fine. If not, do what @dentray said. Or just take your chances since most LE will not likely care.
If it’s a 28 mph and 20 mph throttle limit, then it’s still legal.
By federal definition of a Class 3 electric bicycle:
A bicycle equipped with a motor that provides assistance only when the rider is pedaling, and that ceases to provide assistance when the bicycle reaches the speed of 28 miles per hour and is equipped with a speedometer.
If the bike has a throttle, it's not Class 3 and if it can exceed 20 MPH with throttle it's not Class 2. What to call it is a different question. I think that the current definitions are quite confusing to consumers and also allow too much room for "interpretation" by manufacturers. So they sell a "Class 2" e-bike with an "on-road/off-road" switch that lets it throttle up to 30+ MPH, or lets the motor put out 1 KW or more power.
I ride in CA and am thinking about getting an e-bike. I'll probably limit myself to Class 1 as that seems to be the most useable in places like state and county parks. Some places permit 1-3, but many are Class 1 only and some prohibit all e-bikes, no matter the class. I see rangers running radar speed traps on some of the local MTB trails and recently saw a radar speed sign set up on a local multi-use trail. All these trails have 15 MPH speed limits, so even Class 1 e-bikes can exceed that.
28 mph assist pedal and 20 throttle is still street legal.
Heavier and bulkier than standard bicycles, electric bikes require staying more alert and even include features that could become hazardous if suddenly becoming out of control. This is why standards play such an important role in keeping everything familiar regardless of what the bike's brand is. Accomplishing that would require more interaction between the CPSC and the various electric bike designers.
Use of e-bikes occurs more in highly populated cities, residential, and vacation areas, and are seldom ever seen in the remaining and vast majority of this wonderful country. Although suitable for making trips up to 50+ miles, they are considered to be too slow to ride safely on state highways, and have proven too many times to be vulnerable when ridden without any lane protection that fully prevents intrusion by vehicle traffic.
Downtown commuters in the major cities probably comprise the biggest group of e-bike riders. There would be more grammar school kids riding them except for the age and driver license requirements by some states. Seniors that have a safe route to travel can benefit from riding them. Otherwise, there is a huge gap in most of this country where e-bikes are just not so practical to use, and people tend to have other priorities waiting on their bucket lists to bother with them.
With these recently amended rules for 2025, waiting a couple of years to see how the public accepts or rejects e-bikes can help to determine the role they play in the future. I personally doubt there will be any sudden surge in the sales, nor see any other major changes in the future of e-bikes. Electric bikes have not actually presented a significant solution that would invite more riders, who would argue it's because they are not fast enough to be practical and stay with traffic. The counter argument is that they are not safe to ride in crowded traffic. There are a few more arguments regarding their safety and their known reputation to catch fire in the worst possible places. No doubt, some training is necessary and greatly beneficial to those not wary of the dangers.
Outside of sponsored group rides on trails and obscure back roads, there is no actual sport related to owning an e-bike. Some are MTBs and used for training on mountain trails, and they are probably the best constructed e-bikes available.
I would believe that this e-bike industry will remain so sluggish that attempting to put added rules and regulations on them would cause their demise. Better to let local authorities who know their areas best write the rules that will keep the public safe when ridden on multi-use areas, roads, and trails.
do you guys really think california would put out that ebike incentive without capitalizing on it.
I will talk to our state representatives in Michigan when we get wind of any such legislation. Bike clubs or groups will unite. Thousands of ebike owners. The new laws if any must not apply to bikes that were purchased before laws are enacted. Reasonable proof of purchase date should be obtained or recorded. So thousands of bikes worth millions of dollars spent by citizens are not lost holdings.
I ride my EUC at that park all the time, it's on the corner of Branham and Snell! I wonder if we ever passed each other. If you ever see me wave me down. Say wassup
Will do.
Sounds like the alarm has just rung, so if you want an e-bike that'll take you up to 28 MPH via pedal assist, you should probably buy from whatever stock is available.
My bet? Manufacturers are going to have to comply if they want to sell their bikes in California and other states with this restriction, so after all the current stock is gone, all you'll be able to get in these states will be class 2 bikes.
Question: What will California and these other states do about those e-motos that can reach must faster speeds? Force them to be registered with the DMV, charge the owners for annual renewal, and require the owners to carry insurance like they do to motorists?
I am sure at some point they will need to be registered for riding on the street, and dirt for the dirt ebikes.
In Australia no pedals or above 250W (ausie limit) It is classed as a vehicle and must be registered unless for off road use only, I can see US eventually going the same way.
After this law was announced, I now feel very lucky to have a 32mph and a 42mph ebike and both aren't dirt bike styles (thank god 😅)
I feel bad for anyone with a SurRon, Talaria, Eride pro, etc in California - the silhouette alone will make you a target for cops
But honestly it's about time with all the douchebags who mob around streets and sidewalks. They ruined it for everyone
I live in San Diego. My neighbor is a SDPD officer and admits she has no clue how e-moto regulation and enforcement will work, if anything at all. A for honesty at least.
so i just brought 750 watt ebike that throttles up to 28 mph. is it not considered a class 3. is it now a motor vehicle, not an ebike? do i need insurance? can i not ride it at all?
Up until this new law, class 3 ebikes (pedal assist to 28). could have a throttle as long as the throttle didn't go past 20. The bike could still be pedal assisted to 28. If your bike throttles all the way to 28 it was not legal even before this new law. The dealership you bought it from probably sold it to you so they could get rid of it.
@@cycologist706928 mph pedal assist with 20 mph throttle limit is still legal according to the new law.
If it has pedals in it, it’s still legal.
Michigan has a share the road law. Bikes can and in most cases must use traffic lanes in the streets. Bicycles going only 20 or 28 mph are going to really cause a ton of road rage incidents. Cars must wait behind bikes for safe places to pass and give 5 feet of distance while passing. Lol.. A bicycle going 35 or faster would be less likely to draw out angry conflicts. Ebike riders already fear fast traffic and if speeds are reduced slower, automobile and truck operators will be highly enraged 😂😂
2:00 passing by unlicensed street food vendor... no health inspection nor taxes paid by these food poisoners
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Seen this coming. Just putting into law what the classes were supposed to be. In know it's CA so everyone has something to say, but people are taking these ebikes and basically creating e motorcycles out of them and mobbing around like d heads.
Before a cop would be like "hey stop, no, ok" now they can say "well well well what do we have here".
So this new law is saying that your 750w e-bike is now technically illegal. The law now says that no e-bike motor shall surpass 750 watts in peak power. Since most all 750w motors easily surpass 750 watts, these motors now fall outside of these new ebike regulations. Just about every fat tire e-bike out there has a 750w motor that can peak from 900 to maybe 1,300 watts. So I guess these bikes can no longer be sold in CA? This is utter BS.
I'm sitting here staring at my dual motor ebike w 1500 watts on each motor that peak at 3k 😂
Currently using a Sharpie to cross out all the streets I want to avoid in my city 😅
Nope, 750 watt motor e-bike is still legal.
28 mph pedal assist
Throttle limited to 20 mph.
If your bike has a throttle than it shouldn’t be allowed on the trails. Either pedal or get a scooter!
Annoying new laws in a state well known for lawlessness, pathetic.
You got that right.
@@theridewithlance Cop: You are going 28 mph on your e bike, Lance: i am trying to get away from a shooting. Cop: No excuse, give me your ID so i can write you a ticket.
These laws are made by politicians who have Karen's as constituents. You know, those boomers who hate seeing people enjoy themselves.
Meanwhile, automobiles, which are more capable of gore and violence, to the point where one vehicle can easily kill 10 people and injure 30, have no speed limit and no input restrictions.
For fucks sake, why is anyone over 16 crying over this? If you have a regular drivers license you can ride a moped. So even if they make them moperds, it won't matter. If you're under 16, well, too bad.
Like I've been saving for a long time, it is just going to get worse
I dont think you have to worry too much, I'm not. Just ride respectively and you will be fine.
@theridewithlance nope, I don't worry at all, and I buy whatever bike I want without any worry
@@terryrccrazy6993 You must adhere to law for insurance purposes! Go above new law specs and you will be classed as an unregistered vehicle and be liable for any insurance claims if involved in an accident.
@@dentray you do you and I'll worry about me
Nah, the law don’t matter.
I thought this was america