Made Our Own Train Show & Hand Re-winding a Pre-War Lionel Armature.
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- One week later the Estate purchase is up for sale, How to purchase from me and how to repair the armature out of a pre-war 259E Lionel steamer.
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Just want to let everyone know what a great person you are. Waiting for my box to arrive.
Very kind of you!!
My husband and I really enjoy watching your videos. You make what you do look like so much fun, even when things get frustrating. You teach us a lot!
Thank you so much!
Awesome rebuild on the locomotive. Good luck with the train sale.
thanks. Sale going good still.
Ron, you are a mechanical miracle worker! This video was outstanding! That pre-war Lionel loco was truly resurrected. ⛑
Thanks Frank :-)
Nothing better than trying something new and it works! Fab job!
Thanks Darren
Your a Mechanical Genius🧑🔧
Thanks! (blush)
Nice job!
Thank you Terry
I'm happy for you Ron when that thing ran I smiled for you, great job..
Thanks so much!
Nice repair From the Philippines
Thanks 👍
I like your pink Cordless Drill, Ron,lol, ha,ha. Great video. Thanks for Sharing!
Statistically speaking Pink tools almost never grow legs and walk away :-)
Ron, you are an extremely talented man, great attitude, funny, entertaining, very knowledgeable, and just shows enthusiasm for the hobby, you ha e done more for the hobby than anyone! Much respect, regards Joe
Joe, Thank you very much!!!
Just fantastic that you were able to rewind that armature and get that engine running again! Thanks for sharing the process. Always love watching your videos. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks John
Hi Classic Model Trains & it's is Randy and i like yours video is cool & Thanks Classic Model Trains & Friends Randy
Hello Randy, thanks for the compliments
Good video Ron winding
thank you James
Great video! Can't believe you hand wound the armature. Congrats on your sale.
Thanks Richard
Thank You Ron
Same to you William
Emob???🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Amazing job! You’re a fantastic technician. And best of all: you’re REALLY funny!
Keep going my friend. It’s a great pleasure to watch you!
Thank you Regis! Yes it was very busy here slinging trains for close to 2 weeks. Its good to see you back in the comments again My Friend!!!!
Hi Ron. Great job on the bus show room, lots of neat stuff. The armature rewind, it was amazing to see. You sir have patience.
33%er 👍
Thanks much Robert!
I am impressed!!
Even more than before!!
You did the rewinding in a more mechanical way!!!
I did it completely by hand!
One turn at a time and marking down each turn on a piece of paper…so if I forgot where I was…then at least I had a reference.
All that took weeks!!
Of course I work a day job too…soooo, it was make a turn or two, eat shower sleep get up go to work….blah blah blah yada yada yada
Then of course there was fixing a busted pipe and replacing a servo for the ice maker on my wife fridge and a full maintenance service on my Buick then cut the grass….ugh…make this ol’man tired just thinkin’ about it!
Anyway…
Again excellent video!
And
I learned something new!!
Thanks Jeb! Sounds like your keeping busy with the manly duties around the house as well as doing train stuff :-)
I'm in the wrong part of the world!...I would have a field day in the HO lot!!!! Another great vid as usual sir, glad to be one of the 33%ers
Thanks for coming along for the ride
nice
Thanks Joe
Great video Ron! I always learn something new. Good luck with the sale.
Thanks Rick
U did great on the rewind Ron I use to rewind 1/24 scale slot car arms back in the day that was fun
Thanks Buddy :-)
😅love your show. Learn a lot from you.
Thank you very much!
Wow Ron, what a selection.. if I was closer or even in the USA I would think about contacting you but as I am in Melbourne Australia I will just have to be happy to watch and see what happens. I have never rewound a motor yet but maybe one day.. you did well on that.. Congrats.
Thanks Tim. Yes lots of stuff found with this one
Thank you for sharing. Very nice job on the armature.👍
:-)
Very nice collection of 027 & HO scale stuff. I just spent $250.00 on some HO scale rolling stock and kits from Rusty Rail and Tichy Train Group. Wish I'd known about your sale. Cheers from eastern TN
Thanks!
Great video. I love the humor you inject when you do difficult tasks. it’s a great inspiration to try to tackle some of these myself.
Thank you!
Nice job Ron. Keep up the cool videos.
Thanks A.R.R.!
Hey Ron. Great video. You got a good channel. Cool re wire on the armature. Good job!
Thanks Gary
Another thing with the brush installation, while you have the brush plate upside down with the brushes installed you can insert the armature into the plate to hold the brushes in place. The hold the armature shaft gently with a pair of needle nose pliers and then install it into the motor frame.
Thanks for that good tip as well!!
Rewrapping an armature is one thing I’ve yet to tackle. I’ve read up on it, watched a few videos, it doesn’t seem terrible but it also doesn’t seem like it would be fun either. Eventually I’ll run into something that I’ll just do it and have something else in my bag of tricks that everyone else is afraid to tackle lol. Awesome job!!
Thanks Josh, Yes them re-winds are pretty simple.
Excellent, nobody has shown rewinding for train motors. You speed up the process with drill turning it. Clever. I’ve done it hundreds of times years ago for slot car motors to race at commercial tracks. Winding was with a clamp and crank spinning armature around by hand. The experimentation of different gauge wire and # of turns could yield higher torque for greater pulling power. 😊😊
Yup. Quite a few Fellers have shared with me about re-winding the slot car motors back in the day
Ron good job on the rewind. I remember when I was in high school we raced slot cars on a big track in "the slot car race" store. My car was slower than I wanted so I rewound the motor with bigger wire "which made it use more electricity more than the track supplied so I put 2 six volt lantern batteries in a brief case which I connected to the track and then my car ran so fast no one could even keep it on the track. but it was fun.
Love you hack on the race track power. too funny!!!
"If it works, is it really a bad idea?" Killed me. Another great video. Thank you.
:-)
Loving it❤❤❤❤❤
Looks like your doing some binge watching! Thanks for your support
Good job Ron
Thanks Ron
OK Ron, you're the man. I have done a lot of repairs and even repaired loose commentators by resolidering the windings, but I have never had to rewind an armature. I'm impressed.
Thanks!!
Great vid! The rewinding was very cool!!!😊
Thanks Tony!!
Awesome video and nice Chase Elliott hat. glad to see he won at Texas.
Thanks!
I just noticed your wearing a Chase Elliott hat, I was a big fan of his dad. Another great video. I am not brave enough to try to rewind a motor nice to see how to do it. Hope you sell out quickly. 33 %
Thanks for all your support! Yep Napa gave me this hat. didnt even notice its a nascar hat ;-)
Wow you are just to talented I thought only a machine could rap those windings. Always a 33%er rock on my freind
Thank you Brent!!
Brilliant
Thank you
Love your vids and your honesty. If it helps you are grown-upping about as good as I am. Give yourself a break because no one else will.
Thank you!!
Dave should be in radio
Many say that
Back when I had a hobby shop (late 80’s). RC car racing was the rage. Hand wound motors were a big deal.
If I remember correctly:
Thick wire with fewer turns yields, high RPM/lower torque.
Thin wire with more turns yields more toque /lower RPMs.
Lots of stories of Fellers re-winding there slot cars. First story about RC cars!!
I enjoyed your video of rewinding the armature and the 250 E. I have a suggestion instead of using shrink tubing may use liquid tape may buy Garner bender It comes in black blue and red apply with a Q-tip small brush and let it dry for 10 minutes. Apply one more coat and you’re good to go. Situations, this is better than shrink tubing. Also if you forget to put the tubing on before you solder, this is a good alternative. This liquid rubber is made for electrical connections try it I think you’ll like it
Sounds like a great idea to me. Will look into that stuff!! Thanks
Awesome my man impressed great video.
Thanks Ray
22:50 I install plate then lift spring enough to drop in brush. Good stress test for brush spring. Drop it in the groove on the brush.
This plate is actually backwards than you would think. if its installed there is no way to actually drop a brush in the holder. even if the spring was removed. its made to install brushes just as I showed. might be a prewar thing? I dont know.
That armature was a work of art. Very impressive.
Thank you very much Chris
This was fun to watch, gives me the confidence to maybe try something like this myself. Of course you could just bring it over to Ron's?
"You must do, or do not.....There is no try". Some famous green guy :-)
The 259E was my first pre-war engine, hope I never have to manually wind an armature. But thanks for the video in case I do! 💯
33%er
Thanks John
Your like Scottie from Star Trek….try it now captain!…lol
That Scotty was one heck of a space ship mechanic for sure.
Great video! I've rewound some HO scale motors, and you just don't have a jig to help you. Now I just buy a can motor. Your little hanger trick was brilliant and award-winning lazy hack of the year. lol
Yes my next mountain to climb needs to be a HO motor, but I like the "just get a can motor" idea better!!!
@@classicmodeltrains By the way, with a few more windings you can increase torc and speed. I used to rewind slot car motors 60 years ago for that reason. just a thought to make things harder. lol again.
Thanks for another entertaining and informative video Ron. I only buy locomotives that have problems of one kind or another, and your videos have been very, very helpful in getting them in shape. Keep puttin' 'em out and I'll keep watchin'.
Your welcome Jim. I like the way you think .....problem locos are my favorite as well
If you mix in baking soda with the ca glue it makes a stronger bond..learned that from watching dan erlwin a guitar luthier
Yes, Ive showed that technique a few times. It can even be drilled and tapped as well.
Another great successful video! Just an FYI, when you wind up the armature wire with the drill you can actually stretch the wire without breaking it thinking you vae the same number of raps of wire. This can make you resistance readings be different like you had. Not a big deal just an explanation. Good luck with the sale.
Thanks for pointing that out. I agree and Makes sense to me :-)
Should have brought what was left up to the York train show it would be a nice road trip
Be one heck of a road trip!!
Sure would have been
Nice job rewinding that armature from that 259e and seems like you guys have a lot of model trains to sell out there. I also have a 259e as well but mine is in the gunmetal gray scheme.
Thanks Matt. Yes lots of models to sell!
Super. I wish that I had a way to be there. I would have drained my bank account to the mob for some of these items. 💙 T.E.N.
I'll see what I can do to find more lol
There still for sale. Send me a e-mail
Nice work, I used to watch the Mennonite re wind motors sometimes they were on my UPS route
Them Mennonites have all kinds of skill sets
Ditto…I’m in the wrong part of the continent too…well done Ron…great commentary…love the eBay crack…not true but funny…will send you a note…couple or five HO cars have my interest…33% from Eastern Ontario…
Thanks for your support!
Great video Ron winding that motor was extremely cool I have never seen that before thank you for doing that on camera good luck on your sale and I'm proud to be at 33% er take care keep them coming
And thank you for all your support of my channel!!!
till the end my friend lol. Another great watch ty
Thank you!
You took a really big bite of the model railroad sandwich on this one my friend.
This will take a little time. And you may be left with a bunch of trains that no one wants. Good Luck!!
Its a learning experience for sure!!
Back in 73 we had to use exact same length w I re and clump of solder for balancing
Balancing as well? Pretty fancy there!
Well done Ron.....but what a pain in the ass!
Thanks
Good one Ron …I’m a 33%er
Thank you very much
if you have a fine scale, it is possible to weigh the wire. great job!
Yes Ive heard about Fellers doing that as well
im in awe you are the man i love to work on locos but i just order the armeture from some where what you do for me is like heart surgery
Thank you Greg
GOOD JOB , RON! Honestly i was skeptical but yer a smart dude! 🤜🏼🤛🏻🚂 33%er!
PUH-TOE-MACK
Thanks Rick
Cats and Dogs living together...LOLOLOL Takes me back to the Movie G.Busters AS always Youre the best, PS I am part of the 33% ers
Thanks for your support of my channel! Yes I just watched G.B. a day earlier :-)
the shell plastics cvd hopper isa bachman model i believe. I have one. they can come with the overland limited set.
Thanks for the info
Right on man
Hello East coast Dave!
FIRST! And I'm still looking for HO NYC stuff brother!
I seen this come up right after the launch. Just finally sitting down to reply to all the comments. Been selling cars from the e-mails. Good visiting with you yesterday :-)
Helpful tutorial. Wonder if Loctite 680 would be better for retaining that shaft.
It probably would. If I had some I would have used it instead
Shame I can't make my way out there. I'm in the market for some of that old Tyco/AHM/etc. rolling stock (although I'll probably be replacing the wheels over time, in all honesty).
It can be shipped. I got a lot of $1.00 talgo trucked cars left
@@classicmodeltrains Man, I didn't even notice you left a comment. If that stuff's still available, I'm willing to take a few pieces.
@@jimmyseaver3647 send me a email with your phone number.
@@classicmodeltrains Sent.
I would like to see you do and ho motor I heard if you add more winding you add more torge
Darth Santa Fe did an Athearn motor rewind.
I should try one. Ive heard that as well
Like measuring the length since it will not hand wind the same as when machine did it at the factory.
Best idea I could come up with because I knew the lengths would differ :-)
33% algorithm comment. Good video (as always)!
Thanks for feeding the monster
Today's classic model: John Travolta! ; )
too funny :-)
we watching you now howdy
Hello Mike!
Marx guy here, fast pace, but enjoyable.
Thank you!
WAIT a minute!!!!! A train show with no running layouts?!?!? The sacrilege. Seriously though, @DarthSantaFe has done a video on rewrapping Athearn armatures, and I think he explains the different effects of the choice of wire has on performance. Ever consider working on an AHM n scale locomotive? It's a lot like working on Tyco.
A running layout never crossed my mind. Ive never been to a train show before. An item on my to do list for the next time for sure!! I dont get much N stuff to work on.
eBay is 35% ?!?!?!?😮😮😮
😡😡😡
Wow that’s stupid crazy
seems like once its all over. Plus they send you a 1099 so Sam can get his 30% as well
Thats a nice looking Lionel you fixed. I got a field coil to rewind. Now im confident i should not have any trouble. Well, gotta order some 28 gauge. Amazon? Or is there a better place to get it.
I sniffed around amazon for awhile till I found it. search "mag wire". field coil will be a walk in the park for sure!!
Pah-toe’-Mack. River.
:-)
eBay 13% + or - depending on category plus $0.40. Credit card 3%.
Feels like more
Hey Ron ... I have 33 subscribers now ... Does that make me a 33%er ... LOL 🤣🤣🤣
almost ;-)
33%'er. Since you and I have each other's Number. Be expecting a message tonight or tomorrow.
Good visiting with you Lynn!!
@@classicmodeltrains very nice seeing and talking with you. Sorry I got carried away talking.
I know some Goldner's from Indiana, the Clinton area??
I dont think Mike is gunna read this one......
@@classicmodeltrains There was a senior and a junior.
I threw my digital calipers in the trash. Inconsistent readings and batteries always dead.
Im about ready. I need a good zero to one micrometer I guess
I have moat of alk you have but thanka anyway. Dont gwt down about amoubt if sakes ecobomy has sucjed for 3 yrs
:-)
I'm looking for a pair of shark nose A units in HO?
dont have any of those. sorry
It's pronounced puh-TOE-mick just so you know. Another GOTCHA like Reading... Hahahaha
Poe ☆ Toe ☆ Mack
I live on the banks of it.
😜🤣🚂🏄♂️🚣♂️🚤
Thanks :-)
Ron, thank you. I just had the best chat and purchase. This guy is the real deal. We yucked it up and I got some really nice rolling stock for my new layout. I felt like I was talking to a celebrity! Thanks Ron. Pleasure dealing with you. Matt
Hello Matt! Just getting around to answering all the comments. Your too kind Sir!!
I have a Marx 666 that needs rewinding. Can you help me with it?
I dont want to take on any more customer work Frank. I have so much here now to work on. I would suggest buying a parts 666. There very inexpensive. I'm actually surprised to hear a Marx armature is bad. Someone must have worked hard on it to burn it out.
@@classicmodeltrains l had a lion el transformer giving it too much juice. Pure ignorance on my part , trains are on hold still from the hurricane 🌀 Ian in Florida. The 666 is a scale sized engine since it's a small one , but you put it next to a steam turbine you see how out of place it is being so downsized the big locomotive is. Like when you put a 1:50 bus next to a 1:43 O scale car the size difference is quite noticable. But thanks anyways.
@@frankmarkovcijr5459 Thats right! Ive heard Marx uses less Juice than the Lionels. Thanks for helping me remember that!!
eBay is ridiculous with fees for sure
yes it is!!
Next video: Kato shunt/series rewind
That one might be above my pay grade :-)
What, no female model?
Always keeping the Fellers wondering :-)