Just watched your video on the Savage Arms Mod 187A for the second time. This is a weapon that was my purchased for my brother the year before he was killed; it has been in our family since 1967. It has been handed down to me, and I, in turn am giving it to my son for Christmas. To the best of my knowledge, this weapon has NEVER been taken apart, which is what it needs. From what I've heard, this weapon, even after cleaning, will continue to have cycling issues. I can only pray that they won't be as prominent. Thank you so much for this video.
I got mine when I was 9 in 1970, I had it totally redone and spent 675.00 it’s better than when it was new, cost 28.00 new but it was my 1st gun , I was king of the timber when I 1st got it , you could buy a 50 round box for .50 cents, though the gun isn’t worth much , it is to me because of the memories, the gun smith I had do it laughed and said of all the guns he has reblued , this gun took perfectly , I shot it 15 shells , cleaned it and put it up, I never had any issues with gun ever , I must of got a good one, it says Springfield/Savage . Holds a special place in my life, it will be in my collection forever.
Thank You it was my first gun also, i was 12 and it was 1964 Springfield 187 and i think it is the same. Maybe produced for Springfield Arms spent a lot of time with it and GREAT memories!
I got a old 187h it was my first gun my papa bought it for my daddy when he was a kid besides it jamming up all the time it’s a fun little gun to shoot
That's good to hear. I can't even find a schematics pic of the s series online. From the different model 187 schematics I've seen, the biggest differences seem to be with the safeties and extractors.
This is great thank you. Just got a Savage 187R which seems pretty identical, so this video helped me break it part way down and clean it. Would love a video on a full strip and clean, have only found a parts diagram so far.
I have a Savage/Springfield 188H. Looks the same as yours. The only difference I see is my safety is on the side and the safety is more simple. It was my dads and I got it dirty from him. I keep it in the kitchen for shooting squirrels and rabbits from the window. I've had it for over 30 years and never cleaned it until today when it wouldn't chamber the next round anymore. I can't complain.
Thanks for the tutorial its a great gun. Just put the firing pin back holy hell you really do have to finesse I had to twit and turn it to get in properly. other than it great tutorial.
Thank you for making this video. It may not be the greatest gun in the world, but it's works and it's pretty reliable. What more can you really ask for in a 22LR
Those rings came on the Barska scope. You could get some Leupold Rifleman Scope Rings on Amazon though. They have lot's of options depending on your setup.
Did you put the bolt in upside down or backwards (or both)? The bolt has groves that line up with the receiver so if it’s in the wrong way it’s gotta be jammed in there pretty good. Is there anyway to get any leverage on it with a tool like a screwdriver or something?
My 187 is a hand-me-down...starting to get frustrated by it's cycling issues. It doesn't eject the spent case most of the time. Before the case is ejected, the bolt closes, causing the case to get caught. When the case does get completely ejected, the trigger doesn't cycle completely, even though the next bullet gets loaded into the chamber. If you have any ideas, I'd love to hear your thoughts.
I had a lot of cycling issues when I first had this handed down to me. Ammo really matters, so I primarily shoot CCI Mini Mag. Also, after I fully broke it down and gave it a really good cleaning that helped. I'm a huge fan of food grade Lubriplate for gun lube. Doesn't gunk up and keeps everything cycling. Lastly (and only do this with caution) any internal parts that were polished steel that looked beat up, dirty, or pitted, I cleaned them with very fine steel wool. It'll still jam every now and then, but does it a lot less.
@@UnprofessionalOutdoors I traded the gun in and got a beautiful ruger 10-22 with a maple stock. I didn't like trading the gun in because it was my grandfather's but I think he would've said get rid of it. Besides I still have his sweet shooting winchester model 88 and a muzzleloader of his that I have plenty of good memories. Those two I'll never sell. Just took the winchester to the range the other day and was ringing the 300 meter steel plate like it was a church bell.
What variant do you have? The extractor on a J variants were a clip on band that were pretty easy to snap on and off the bolt. There were 3 types of extractors with the band being the latest.
Thanks for this video. My dad gave me his 187J when I was 16....my first gun, back in 1995. I put countless round through it until my lack or care for it wrecked the guts of the weapon. I'm now 42 and my dad is 71. I really want to fix the gun and give him his gun back for a retirement present. But I'm not a gun smith...these little guns were so over engineered for the time, making for lots of hard to find parts. Any help or recommendations you could give would be most helpful.
Glad the video helped. Are you looking for any specific advice? I’m not a gunsmith so I carefully tracked how I took everything apart. You could video record the disassembly which would make assembly easier. Numrich also has a good schematic www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-manufacturer/savstevspgfld/rifles-sav/187-series/187j
@@UnprofessionalOutdoors great idea! I'm a DIY guy and, boy, the guts of this little bastard is a little overwhelming. No wonder why they jammed all the time!! Lots of nooks and crannies for all that fouling! Holy crap, it is a mess in there....16 year old me was a dumbass!
So before I take mine apart I do have a question. When shooting mine, if I hold the trigger the bolt holds open until i release it, is that normal for this gun? I only ask because there are time where the bolt doesn’t hold and it seems like the firing pin didn’t get reset, because it dead triggers and I have to recharge the rifle to keep going. Other than this it’s a good little gun
i have a 187n that has the bolt stuck forward with the spring assembly still attached to the back but am unable to pull it out from the rear.is there a lever or somthing that needs to be pushed for the spring to release, pulling the trigger does not fire , it is unloaded
Great video, thanks for the breakdown. Any tricks for getting the safety button correctly inserted into the safety slide catch? Mine is such a tight fit, I can't get them back together even when both are not installed on the gun.
Kevin Blackmon yeah that part is tough! What I did was hold the safety button tightly with my thumb and pushed the locking plate onto the safety with a flathead screwdriver. Took some finessing but eventually it locked into place.
Is this the same as a savage 187a? Wich is the same as savage 135, gill gun. Cant find anything on the 135, google says its the same as 187a. I need this video to be what i need to watch
The 187j and 187a are similar but looks like there are a few differences like the safety and bolt. The barrels, trigger assemblies, and magazine guides look similar. Numrich has exploded views of both 187a - www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-manufacturer/savstevspgfld/187-series/187-ser-a 187j - www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-manufacturer/savstevspgfld/187-series/187j Couldn't really find much on the 135 except some old forums that say it's a 187 sold under a different company.
Mine would fail to clear the ejection port and jam a lot when I first got it. It got better after breaking it down and cleaning it, but it still jams frequently. How is yours jamming?
Just hoping you or anyone out there had specific info on the Savage Arms Westpoint model 487t Seris A 22LR. I found one missing a stock and trigger guard 20 years ago and found 187 parts fit perfectly thru Numrich gun parts online. They had no information on this specific model at all tho
@@UnprofessionalOutdoors I was just curious if there were any outstanding differences with this model or if the Westpoint designation had any significance since I found this in the home of a deceased WWII veteran
@@danlboy2592 I’ve never shot a Westpoint 487t, but from pictures online the barrel, magazine tube, magazine feeder, trigger assembly, bolt, and receiver look pretty similar. Some pics have even the same safety. Wouldn’t know for sure since I’ve never handled one, but the exploded views look a lot alike.
Hello friend, can you help me where I can buy the Stevens spare parts that you have or some page to buy friend because I am from Ecuador and I went to travel to your country friend please help me since there are no spare parts in Ecuador
@@UnprofessionalOutdoors Saludos amigo sabes tengo 2 de las mismas pero se daño los resortes porq son muy antiguas pero estan en bien estado y quiero conseguir los resortes pero no se amigo donde conseguir
Just watched your video on the Savage Arms Mod 187A for the second time. This is a weapon that was my purchased for my brother the year before he was killed; it has been in our family since 1967. It has been handed down to me, and I, in turn am giving it to my son for Christmas. To the best of my knowledge, this weapon has NEVER been taken apart, which is what it needs. From what I've heard, this weapon, even after cleaning, will continue to have cycling issues. I can only pray that they won't be as prominent. Thank you so much for this video.
That’s a great story and glad the video could help. It still has some issues cycling, but it’s a lot better after doing a deep clean.
I got mine when I was 9 in 1970, I had it totally redone and spent 675.00 it’s better than when it was new, cost 28.00 new but it was my 1st gun , I was king of the timber when I 1st got it , you could buy a 50 round box for .50 cents, though the gun isn’t worth much , it is to me because of the memories, the gun smith I had do it laughed and said of all the guns he has reblued , this gun took perfectly , I shot it 15 shells , cleaned it and put it up, I never had any issues with gun ever , I must of got a good one, it says Springfield/Savage . Holds a special place in my life, it will be in my collection forever.
@@722DL thanks for sharing, that’s awesome. I recently brought mine out to the range and it had no problems. It’s a fun little plinker.
Thank You it was my first gun also, i was 12 and it was 1964 Springfield 187 and i think it is the same. Maybe produced for Springfield Arms spent a lot of time with it and GREAT memories!
Great video, thanks for the take down procedure. Mine is a 187N and love this ole piece of history (GEN 1 semiauto .22).
Thanks! They are fun old guns.
I got a old 187h it was my first gun my papa bought it for my daddy when he was a kid besides it jamming up all the time it’s a fun little gun to shoot
Yeah I've done a lot of work to clean this one and it still jams a lot.
Thanks for doing this. Helped me a ton after I inherited my Dad's - his was marked Coast-to-Coast. 🙂
Awesome, glad the video helped.
Helped get my 288 coast to coast going , good job!
Awesome, glad it helped!
As far as I can tell this has exactly the same schematics as the Model 187s. Thanks for the video.
That's good to hear. I can't even find a schematics pic of the s series online. From the different model 187 schematics I've seen, the biggest differences seem to be with the safeties and extractors.
Any word on what to do if the safety doesn't wanna click back into place after diss. Trying to put it back together and it don't wanna go all the way
Passed down to me by family. Thanks for the vid on breaking it down and keeping it in good working order
It’s a fun little fun. Glad the video helped.
This is great thank you. Just got a Savage 187R which seems pretty identical, so this video helped me break it part way down and clean it.
Would love a video on a full strip and clean, have only found a parts diagram so far.
Maytag818 awesome glad it helped! Are you looking for a breakdown of the trigger assembly and feeding mechanism?
@@UnprofessionalOutdoors yes. Badly
Wow....thank you.....my father in-law gave me 187n rifle....it sure is due for a cleaning.....well done sir
Thanks! Not sure of all the differences between the models but hopefully this helps with cleaning your 187n.
I just got one of this from my neighbor and trying to find accessories for them this going to be my first gun
Nice, it's a fun gun if you keep it clean.
I needed this video. Thanks for making it.
Glad it was helpful!
Very very helpful. Thanks for posting this clear presentation.
No problem, glad it helped!
I have a Savage/Springfield 188H. Looks the same as yours. The only difference I see is my safety is on the side and the safety is more simple. It was my dads and I got it dirty from him. I keep it in the kitchen for shooting squirrels and rabbits from the window. I've had it for over 30 years and never cleaned it until today when it wouldn't chamber the next round anymore.
I can't complain.
There are so many variants of this gun. It’s a fun little gun. Cool to hear about your experience with it.
dude! i have been looking for a video on this exact rifle! thanks!
Bobby D awesome hope it helps
Thanks for posting.
Glad you like it. Hopefully it helps.
Thanks for the tutorial its a great gun. Just put the firing pin back holy hell you really do have to finesse I had to twit and turn it to get in properly. other than it great tutorial.
@@ReillyReenacting thanks, glad it helped.
I just got a model M .............. Same,Same ...................... thanks............ enjoy
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Thank you this really helped me a lot!
Glad it helped!
Great video been looking for one for awhile thanks
Awesome, glad it could help.
Thank you for making this video. It may not be the greatest gun in the world, but it's works and it's pretty reliable. What more can you really ask for in a 22LR
Glad it helped and agree. It’s a solid 22LR.
Do you have another video going deeper into the trigger assembly and the feeder mechanism?
I don’t, but there have been a couple of requests for this so I’ll probably make one soon.
Where did you get the scope mounts for it?
Those rings came on the Barska scope. You could get some Leupold Rifleman Scope Rings on Amazon though. They have lot's of options depending on your setup.
Nice OK rifle.
Thanks
thanks for video rly helped i put the bolt in the wrong way round any tricks for getting it out
Did you put the bolt in upside down or backwards (or both)? The bolt has groves that line up with the receiver so if it’s in the wrong way it’s gotta be jammed in there pretty good. Is there anyway to get any leverage on it with a tool like a screwdriver or something?
My 187 is a hand-me-down...starting to get frustrated by it's cycling issues. It doesn't eject the spent case most of the time. Before the case is ejected, the bolt closes, causing the case to get caught. When the case does get completely ejected, the trigger doesn't cycle completely, even though the next bullet gets loaded into the chamber. If you have any ideas, I'd love to hear your thoughts.
I had a lot of cycling issues when I first had this handed down to me. Ammo really matters, so I primarily shoot CCI Mini Mag. Also, after I fully broke it down and gave it a really good cleaning that helped. I'm a huge fan of food grade Lubriplate for gun lube. Doesn't gunk up and keeps everything cycling. Lastly (and only do this with caution) any internal parts that were polished steel that looked beat up, dirty, or pitted, I cleaned them with very fine steel wool. It'll still jam every now and then, but does it a lot less.
@@UnprofessionalOutdoors I traded the gun in and got a beautiful ruger 10-22 with a maple stock. I didn't like trading the gun in because it was my grandfather's but I think he would've said get rid of it. Besides I still have his sweet shooting winchester model 88 and a muzzleloader of his that I have plenty of good memories. Those two I'll never sell. Just took the winchester to the range the other day and was ringing the 300 meter steel plate like it was a church bell.
Brent Paris it’s hard to beat a Ruger 10-22. Sounds like you still have some awesome guns from your grandfather.
How long is the loading rod in the savage 22 L R
How do you take the extractors out of the bolt?
What variant do you have? The extractor on a J variants were a clip on band that were pretty easy to snap on and off the bolt. There were 3 types of extractors with the band being the latest.
@@UnprofessionalOutdoors I have a 187S and for the life of me I can not find the pin to take them out.
Thanks for this video. My dad gave me his 187J when I was 16....my first gun, back in 1995. I put countless round through it until my lack or care for it wrecked the guts of the weapon. I'm now 42 and my dad is 71. I really want to fix the gun and give him his gun back for a retirement present. But I'm not a gun smith...these little guns were so over engineered for the time, making for lots of hard to find parts. Any help or recommendations you could give would be most helpful.
Glad the video helped. Are you looking for any specific advice? I’m not a gunsmith so I carefully tracked how I took everything apart. You could video record the disassembly which would make assembly easier. Numrich also has a good schematic www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-manufacturer/savstevspgfld/rifles-sav/187-series/187j
@@UnprofessionalOutdoors great idea! I'm a DIY guy and, boy, the guts of this little bastard is a little overwhelming. No wonder why they jammed all the time!! Lots of nooks and crannies for all that fouling! Holy crap, it is a mess in there....16 year old me was a dumbass!
@@DeerHunterDVM Lots of parts for these on EBAY.
So before I take mine apart I do have a question. When shooting mine, if I hold the trigger the bolt holds open until i release it, is that normal for this gun?
I only ask because there are time where the bolt doesn’t hold and it seems like the firing pin didn’t get reset, because it dead triggers and I have to recharge the rifle to keep going. Other than this it’s a good little gun
I've never experienced that with mine.
i have a 187n that has the bolt stuck forward with the spring assembly still attached to the back but am unable to pull it out from the rear.is there a lever or somthing that needs to be pushed for the spring to release, pulling the trigger does not fire , it is unloaded
Great video, thanks for the breakdown. Any tricks for getting the safety button correctly inserted into the safety slide catch? Mine is such a tight fit, I can't get them back together even when both are not installed on the gun.
Kevin Blackmon yeah that part is tough! What I did was hold the safety button tightly with my thumb and pushed the locking plate onto the safety with a flathead screwdriver. Took some finessing but eventually it locked into place.
Needle nose pliers = success!
I would classify this as field stripping. When you punch out the two barrel pins is it still press fit like a marlin model 60?
Dang it I was hoping you would show how to put the firing group back together
Hopefully you were able to get it back together. That part can be a little tricky, especially if the parts are a little beat up and not smooth.
Is this the same as a savage 187a? Wich is the same as savage 135, gill gun. Cant find anything on the 135, google says its the same as 187a. I need this video to be what i need to watch
The 187j and 187a are similar but looks like there are a few differences like the safety and bolt. The barrels, trigger assemblies, and magazine guides look similar. Numrich has exploded views of both
187a - www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-manufacturer/savstevspgfld/187-series/187-ser-a
187j - www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-manufacturer/savstevspgfld/187-series/187j
Couldn't really find much on the 135 except some old forums that say it's a 187 sold under a different company.
@@UnprofessionalOutdoors thanks so much!!
Where can I get a replacement screw
@@CathyPhillips-kt6tm I usually get parts on Numrich
I have one of these and it jams on every single round.
Mine would fail to clear the ejection port and jam a lot when I first got it. It got better after breaking it down and cleaning it, but it still jams frequently. How is yours jamming?
Just hoping you or anyone out there had specific info on the Savage Arms Westpoint model 487t Seris A 22LR. I found one missing a stock and trigger guard 20 years ago and found 187 parts fit perfectly thru Numrich gun parts online. They had no information on this specific model at all tho
Unfortunately we don’t. What information are you specifically looking for?
@@UnprofessionalOutdoors I was just curious if there were any outstanding differences with this model or if the Westpoint designation had any significance since I found this in the home of a deceased WWII veteran
@@danlboy2592 I’ve never shot a Westpoint 487t, but from pictures online the barrel, magazine tube, magazine feeder, trigger assembly, bolt, and receiver look pretty similar. Some pics have even the same safety. Wouldn’t know for sure since I’ve never handled one, but the exploded views look a lot alike.
Hello friend, can you help me where I can buy the Stevens spare parts that you have or some page to buy friend because I am from Ecuador and I went to travel to your country friend please help me since there are no spare parts in Ecuador
I usually buy parts from www.brownells.com, but I’m not sure if they ship international.
Hablas espanol? Podemos usar espanol?
@@UnprofessionalOutdoors Saludos amigo sabes tengo 2 de las mismas pero se daño los resortes porq son muy antiguas pero estan en bien estado y quiero conseguir los resortes pero no se amigo donde conseguir
@@kramgallegos7582 do you mean the hammer spring? Try here www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-manufacturer/savstevspgfld/187-series/187j
Sí se puede que se trasdusca en Español
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