6 FEET in 6 HOURS - ULTRA FAST 3D Printing with MASSIVit!
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- Опубліковано 3 гру 2021
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MASSIVit 3d printers make HUGE prints ULTRA FAST. It's crazy to see in person!
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I stopped by the @Massivit3DPrinting booth at Formnext 2021 in Frankfurt, Germany to inquire about their 3d printers. They use GDP (Gel Deposition Printing) to create ULTRA FAST HUGE prints. It's stunning to see in person, and hopefully my tour of their booth gives you an idea of what they have cooking :)
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Massivit's UV toothpaste tech is pretty wild! How strong are the parts?
If you use it to make molds, then it doesn't matter!
I suppose if you print the outer walls, you could fill it with standard acrylic resin and have a solid piece.
I suppose extruding more than one gel from the same nozzle would be relatively easy, just like a toothpaste tube. Multi-property printing like this on a scaled down machine would open up new printing possibilities to everyone.
Back filling the parts with expanding foam would make them super strong as well.
@8:25 you can see an actual ladder for the yacht.
I'm sure I'm not alone in exclaiming "a gel!" and slapping my forehead. It's exactly the *solution* we needed to get the best of FDM and SLA printing. Very exciting stuff. Tom and Stefan are mixing all the kitchen condiments into their resin bottles as we speak.
And then he mentioned 50 patents. So better forget it quickly before someone get himself into trouble.
Meanwhile Angus is feeding kitchen condiments to his birds lol
Slapping your head means you think it's stupid, that's the common gesture
obviously someone from Massivit went to nail bar and thought you know we could patent that :-)
I'm thinking a large syringe with some sort of infuser through a 1mm nozzle and a UV light on during the entire print. How would you make the resin thicker?
I saw this at IAPAA and had a great conversation with the Massivit rep. It's an amazing machine. But it costs half a million dollars. And it's the size of a room, which for my company was a big issue. Not to mention that the resin is very brittle, has a shelf life, and is only supplied by Massivit. Add this with proprietary software and you have potential fornincredobly expensive maintenance. I talked to other companies who have this machine to get the review on whether it's worth it, and they were trying to sell their machine to us for 300k. Which is still too much. We weighed the options and while it's a great machine we still have to mold, cast, and clean up prints anyway. Amazing tech, amazing machine. But ultimately more hype than it deserves.
Most useful comment here! Similar to the form 3L. It’s hundreds of dollars just to fill the tray with resin. Even if you can afford the printer, keeping it fed is super expensive; obviously if that’s your company’s business it’s worth it but for consumer use not really practical…
So what machine did you end up buying?
@@martyboi we didn't end up getting any of the machines involved. We have several cr10 maxes and a form labs form 3L
Wow, interesting observation, well at half a millon , closed ecosystem, etc its a very expensive 3d printing solution..i think the target of this machine is big companies (imagine only the cost in material of printing a car), and of course all tecnologys have there down side...
I was so excited until you said half a million.
Would love to see this one in a Mini Desktop version!
Pretty Impressive! 👏😎
in 50 years after there patens are gone
@@BlondieSL I totally agree, I would buy one. BTW, which printer do you have with a build volume that large?
@@BlondieSL probably they will stay in the industry market i hope as well that they develope consumer printer to a payable price
an ender 3 sized machine using the massivit tech is a super interesting idea, a cros between FDM and resin
Forget Ender 3 sized, Imagine CR-10 sized!
voron speeds with resin quality!
@@eliasenns4928 Not sure this tech implies similar quality to a resin printer. It seems it's very much equivalent to FDM 'resolution', but without the need for supports.
@@imacmill You right, still amazing tho
I have a feeling you'll see something like this very soon
I am impressed with the speed and lack of support requirement. I would love to see a smaller version for the home market.
I wonder what the cost of the gel is.
@@androiduberalles I would hope it wouldn't be much more expensive than the resin. But I doubt we will see this in homes anytime soon. Also, I wonder what kind of fumes this puts off.
With 50 patents for this machine we have to wait 25 years or so before we see a reprap version of this😲
@@androiduberalles the GEL Probably costs more then the printer.
@@christianmarkussen6412 Or... they just make at-home versions of this thing and sell them to retail. It's like anything else technological advancement. First you get a product to enterprise, then you make a home-model, THEN you sell off licenses for others to replicate your work. Give it a few years.
Your son David did a great job at the end :)
Future 3D Printing Nerd in the making
Joel your son killed that add spot. Great job! That was also a very interesting interview. That technology looks awesome and makes me wish I was independently wealthy enough to afford one.
#childlabour
Jk, he absolutely nailed it
Joel I always appreciate how professional you sound. Even though clearly your learning about another product in this video from speaking with this guy, your mannerism and confidence comes across that you almost know more than him. Great video as always dude, High Five
Automotive industry is (will be) all over this! The cost of the polymer clay they use to sculpt full-sized prototypes is insane! At one point I inquired about the polymer clay used and after hunting I finally found a company willing to talk to me about it. $100,000 in clay, easily, for ONE full-size prototype. My purpose was to sculpt a 4 foot Cho'Gath statue for my son; $15,000 in clay had I gone ahead.
Edit: At a cost of $500,000 it could pay for itself in a few prints, one might argue a single print. As the alternative is ~$100,000 in raw clay that you then spend months(?) sculpting and refining at the hands of highly paid people. The time and money sink of prototyping is incredible and if you could wave a wand and most of it goes away, who wouldn't?
I would think that the act of sculpting is part of the purpose of that process though. sure you can design the whole car in a computer sculpting program but it will be much different once full size.
They still use clay for automotive prototyping because changes can be made on the fly by the sculptor within minutes ready for review by the designer. You can't do that in CAD or 3D printing.
Was fortunate to see this at the IAAPA Expo a few weeks ago in the states. It’s like a crazy resin /fdm love child 3d printer. The tech of this is amazing! Can’t wait to see more from Massivit!
This is definitely one of the coolest 3d printing related things I've seen lately!
Happy Holidays, Joel to you and your family and staff. Love all the content you put out!
Hope those fridge cups came in handy! 🙂
Great to see David involved! Also SIX DAYS, SIX DAYS?!?!?!?!? That's flippin Crazy! Definitely a very cool technology. Great video! Curious what the cost comparison is. Being new I'm sure it's up there.
Great year for innovations in 3d printing tech. This is truly a game changer.
Haha i love it !! Dad and son !! And that tech is incridible. Very nice watching this vid. Its the future!! Thanks a lot Joel. Very entertaining
This is so cool! Love to see this stuff!
More interested in their smoothening and sanding process because those demo parts are basically layer lineless for a giant extruder. Either they have a really good process or a ton of work
At 9:24 When you see the tail lights and the small red columns, you can see the underside of what I assume is the other tail light behind, which has a few sign of drip/ paint run, so I assume it’s just paint laid on thick?
You can tell the guy is genuinely proud of this. As he should be; he knows they've got a big deal here.
That's so COOL!!!
Ok. For a fully enclosed environment, there's a lot of things you can play with. Ambient temp, air composition, UV exposure, air pressure, magnetic flux lines, microwave sintering, extrusion materials, extrusion angle, extrusion speed, extruder nozzle geometry, etc. I doubt this is solely an improvement in the extruded material. They appear to have reached a high level of engineering.
WOW! I am very glad I decided to stop by and watch this video! This is the most impressive printer I have ever seen!
Jell resin printing, so cool. We need a hobby verion of the jell resin printer. Thank you for sharing with us.
Outstanding video, Joel. I really like these 3D printing tech updates. There are insane innovations happening in industries us plebs don't get to experience. Thank you.
Fantastic. Thanks for showing us.
Good job David!
OMG😱
The future is here and it arrived in the blink of a eye. I've only been 3DPrinting for a few years and since then the advancement it has undergone is massive. I can wait to see how far we go in the next few years.
Wow, pretty mind-blowing!
As a couple of others have mentioned though, the missing info is the mechanical and thermal characteristics of the material.
- tensile strength
- hardness
- impact resistance
- maximum working temperature
Also, what’s the cost/kg for the material?
I'm more worried about the cost of the extruder. Honestly the above stuff probably isn't too bad. Material cost might also be prohibitively expensive.
@@faranocks Plastic just isn't cheap to begin with, but otherwise I guess the cost is worth it for the benefit it provides. This gel? Even more so, giving that for more complicated stuffs ordering a machined part isn't cheap either, and you have to assemble it using even more efforts.
And the extruder probably would be durable enough as well (giving that human have been using pumps for centuries and you bet by this time it can be made with high enough quality). And it's not like CNC bits aren't disposable.
Honestly I don't see anything of this machine that would bring the cost unreasonably high. It won't be cheap, but neither would all the alternatives.
@@faranocks As the technology for gel UV hardened resin is widely available the only thing driving up cost in that department would be availability for this specific use case, which would probably start to fall rapidly if this technology was widely adopted. I think the larger problem is that they have a patent for this technology so no one else will be able to do anything else with it in the near future.
very cool thanks for sharing!
So it's like a hybrid between resin and fdm. Very neat.
very exciting technology. Thanks for sharing with us
This is so awesome. I love 3D printing.
The printer is amazing, but your son is the star of this video! He is a natural👍
This is just f*cking amazing! Wow! The posibilities are endless :O
This is an amazing technology. I wonder if they are anyone else can do one for home use. Hopefully not that expensive. Gel with curing , strong hollow and no supports. So awesome.
Not a chance, as it was explained there are 50 patents protecting this tech
This tech will not surface for general use until those patents have expired
@@AndrewAHayes It *could* if the company sells it themselves or licenses the patents to a retail manufacturer. If they get enough requests they might consider it. I've asked on one of their videos whether they have any plans to do so, but one person doesn't show them much interest.
@@AndrewAHayes patent-frozen for 100 years I bet
Wow on the printer with Gel! Loved your son's ad!!
Amazing
Wow, they solved a huge portion of the problems with conventional printers, while keeping many of the best innovations, I'm floored with how good this design and the underlying material choices are, I hope we eventually see this as a consumer technology. Thankyou for sharing this with us.
Cool. In 2041 all their 50 patents will expire. That will be a wonderful moment.
Wow!! I can’t wait to see this technology applied to a desktop printer
This is such a creative advance in deposition printing! I really hope to see this technology more in the future.
This is mind blowing 😱😱
The kid's got the touch. Tech Nerd#2. Awesome! Great video. As usual.
It's really cute how enthusiastic the CEO is
That looks insane!
This is beautiful. Can you imagine in the next few decades when this technology becomes consumer?
Amazing Joel, that is a really interesting machine, sort of like a resin printer being cured by UV light. Are they thinking of bringing this to the home user, like us?
Think this is the _FIRST_ time I've been seriously impressed with 3d printing! An outstanding process.
Joel you were great and all, but David was AMAZING! Way to go dude!
Now this is very cool, this is when 3D printing gets fast enough for actual production. Will cost your house, family and friends, but you will have something very cool. :) I am a bit worried about the companies doing manual model making for all sorts, movies etc. this will likely replace a lot of that and be cheaper in the end.
They won't go away. Those parts needed many hours of filling and sanding to get a finish that nice.
@@martylawson1638 That’s a really good point indeed
Sell house. Buy printer. Print new house. Win.
I love to see where The 3d printing is going!
Really enjoyed this episode. Thanks! Even liked the KiwiCo commercial 🙂
The end with the kid is the best! He rulez on so many levels!
I saw this company as well when I attended the formnext. They gave me the same sample object as Joel was given! Currently working with them for some new projects :)
Mind. Blown. Yeah!
That is fraking amazing. I want one.
W.O.W. Amazing track!
groundbreaking technology, very nice you bring it into the light
Your kid has chops. Watch out, he may come for your job ;o)
crazy printer! love David at the end, he's so cool "that doesn't seem so hard, Dad!" :D cheers guys
amazing!!!!
Kid with the LTT sweater was a damn natural, has a great career ahead of em
This is amazing. I hope this makes its way to the consumer market soon.
That was some very cool tech! Thanks for showing us. Maybe you can get them to print a life-sized Joel-Bot, or a piece of furniture! That salesman was funny. I'd bet he would be up for it just to prove how fast they could do it. High-5!
Your son has his future staked out. What a presence! And to be fair, adequate performance from the director, too.
11:29 Loved the ending!
He is a natural! Surely a chip off the old block. ;)
Imagine walking into your printer to look it over for maintenance
By far the coolest tech shown at this convention. No idea why it got so little press coverage. Well done 3D Printing nerd, this was great!
That's crazy awesome! Waiting for SoHO version
So they are curing it like tooth fillings and that super glue you use the UV light on. NICE!!
What an awesome representative!
Standing at a maker space.... "My voron is better than your cr10..." Hold my resin. "Umm hey guys check out my massiveIt."
Yes please👍 oh and also make a smaller version for us home setups.
Thumps up for David. Smooth AF. Might actually need to order that stuff for my nephew now... Oh and the printer was nice too.
"Nice to meet you good to see you again" 😂😂😂😂
Dude. David rocked that promo.
That is phenomenal, what a break-through but if it's a uv curable material what type of fumes does it emit that can be hazardous?
Your Junior is AWESOME!! Looks like he will be a natural on UA-cam!
KiwiCo is awesome, and your son is awesome too, that was great! My son is only 2.5 and he already loves sitting at my workbenches
Gel printing wow!! I can use all the spare I have since I went bald 😉 your son David did a great job !!!
This is pretty crazy and incredible. I wonder how the material would work scaled down? Like, could they get that same type of "gel" polymer material through like a .4mm nozzle, same UV curing tech, and just print smaller types of parts?
that Massivit machine is HUGE! I love their system! The GDP looks like a thicker version of UV resin, cool! Yes, the Massivit printer is faster, BUT, let's compare the costs for your 87 days of print cost vs their 6 days. Mind you, their car is cooler, sorry lol. Using that acrylic media, I would bet they can hide the seams too, very interesting!
I do love the multi head system, like IDEX but better.
I was planning to build 2m x 2m x1m core xy 3D printer...then this coming up...wow!!
Now I want to see a full size bust of Joel made with this. I also wonder about post-processing because the car and boat parts were smooth and the in-progress print still appeared to have layer lines. If you didn't look into the boat part, I'd have assumed it simply got sanded down on the outside... but the inside also looked smooth, which makes me wonder what they did to smooth it.
Painted and/or coated as well. Look at the bottom edge when he flips it over. I see the signs of something very similar to applying paint with a brush or sponge.
Siiiiiiick!
Awesome technology. I can't wait till you can get them like you can say an Ender 3. Your son did a great job. How long did it take him to rehearse his lines?
Ok MASSIVit, now let's make a SMALLit for us peasants hehehe.
It sounds like the concept could be used for existing fdm printers with a UV mod and a revised filament that can UV cure.
And people say FDM innovation is dead... This machine and its performance is CRAZY!
Did you talk about the process for getting what looks like a gf gel coat on the outside of the finished marine part you held? Was that a composite with the printing used to create a complex structure that was then overlaid with glass fibre and resin layers by hand and finished with a gel coat, also by hand?
Wow!
Thats cool
That's a wicked machine and your son did a great job in his wicked LTT Hoodie.
Yeah that is awesome!
Is there any possibilities of scaling this resin printer design to at home use?
How has this not been miniaturized!? This blows the arc overhangs away!
👌 God bless you and your family! ❤️
awesome
JFC 🤯 NEED!!!!
I wish i was at this fair! Always love tech fairs at Frankfurt Messe. Especially a rapid prototype/ 3D print fair. So jealous!!!
Wow that car js really cool