@@The-Arch-Painter Honestly they should just make models for all the Primarchs. Everyone wants it. They make money, we get our favourite boi's on the table, everyone wins.
how to beat Dark Angels. Step 1: Tell your DA opponent that there is a fallen angel in a match going on over at the next table Step 2: Camp as many objectives as you can while they teleport their inner cicrle terminators over to the orc demolotion derby Step 3: Rake in the Victory points
The demon prince is a mantic games Plague A1 infected from their warpath range. It's the best mini they sculpted for said range. Honestly mantics plague unuts would be awesome for nurgle and genestealer cults
HIm with these wings would look good - wargameexclusive.com/shop/chaos/chaos-rotten-daemon-wings/ I also think this would make a good DP from the same range www.manticgames.com/games/deadzone/plague/plague-aberration/
Morty usually only lasts 2 rounds for me as well. But it takes his whole army to bring him down and by that time I’m on objectives and within melee range. He does his job well.
They didn't miss the relic's effect (Steve reminded Luca several times that they're -1 damage received), but they did miss the standard effect of fighting or shooting on a 4+ when models die.
@@pytinxyjlo yeah but Mortarion cant take the relic. And what does Gloaming Bloat have to do with anything? GB turns off re rolls and im talking about Mortarion re rolling all wound rolls against Inner Circle Bladeguard vets.
@@123Ireks yep, that is 100% true but he wounds Deathwing on 4+ only because of their rule. Arch contaminator allows full rerolls to wound with plague weapons to CORE only. Morty used to be able to re roll all his own wound rolls but not anymore. It wouldn't have made a difference this game but it's something I wanted to point out.
Weapons of the Dark Age can take plasma weapons up to damage 3 (reduced to damage 2 against Death Guard). It can still be really deadly and wipe a unit of plague marines like nothing. Plasma for green wing and raven wing is always an auto include in my opinion
Yeah, if they perhaps paid a bit more attention to some of the factions that get less attention, it might actually help even out some of the games and get people interested in playing more than just Space Marines all the time.
@17:00 "And If it fail, they are gonna turn tail and we're go that way." I guess "and they shall know no fear" does not prevent tactical retreat! Shooting at anything other then Mortaryon would kill more then 490 points.
That's why they said people usually just leave him be and kill other stuff, but that also leaves Mortarion open to wreck face, especially against a mostly melee army.
Really enjoyed the game and the commentary. Those lawn mowers are crazy, be fun to see a list spam them. Ravenwing models have a great paint job. As a viewer it makes such a difference when they are so well painted.
Thank you for the game! Please accept a humble request: Steve, TALK SLOWER, and please stop interrupting/talking over the other player. Hopefully, this is constructive criticism.
Its definitely frustrating because the new books are good and mostly balanced... the problem is they are balanced against each other and not the 8th edition codexes which they are for the most part leagues and bounds stronger then. It will even out over time as more and more factions get their updates but for now it does suck to have to wait to catch up to the big boys, especially if your PA was rather lackluster. In a world where GW does not have to worry about quarterly earnings or cultivating interest everything would drop at once but I understand that isn't the world we live in.
he is worse than in the last book, but I love it that he gives his rerolls to core and not to the plague company which kinda supports mixed plague companys, and on top of that he can cast 2 spells, for me he is still an auto include ^^
@@Blight02 he got -1 to hit now, and cant reroll for himself and he went like 10 points I think in price up, he is just a little bit worse in cc that's already it
Why not try simultaneous combat where the initiative winner only uses one unit then player 2 uses one unit etc. Similar to chess until all units have done there moves.....
It's so frustrating that Steve forgets so many rules. The lion would approve of his stubborn resilience to RTFM. Keep going Steve, I know one day you will remember your ancient
Steve, you can get 5x pairs of lightning claws out of either the tartaros or cataphractii terminator kit. Should be a very doable conversion onto deathwing terminator bodies if you have a mind to.
Luka, although I agree on the fact Deadly Pathogens are really good on the Lord of Virulence, you should definitely try it on the Foul Blightspawn! With viscous death, for just 10 points you cap at strength 8( a great threshold) and can reroll the number of shots every time, which can be crucial for an already deadly weapon such as his
Also - you almost never want to Reserve Mortarion. There's not much in the game that can threaten to kill him in one go (maxed out Eradicators with buffs, Retributors with a stockpile of miracle dice). If your opponent is shooting their entire army at Morty and not killing him, they're not playing the mission or killing your scoring units. If Steve didn't throw his entire army into him and instead just stuck the assault intercessors in combat with him and kept transhuman on them it'd have taken like 3 turns on average for him to kill them, or cost other units meandering over to help.
At least we're likely to see some Drukhari hit the battreps once the codex drops, but I agree that until they get 9e codices, we alien enjoyers would benefit from kiddie table games!
Was excited to watch this. I love Dark Angels and Death Guard. But then I saw that there was a Tau video, and I jumped over to that instead. For the Greater Good!!!
Mortarion does not have the plague company keyword, so you only get access to the warlord trait and the relic, but you do not gain access to the stratagem.
I love that mat. Looks like theres craters from bombs and what not. Cool color telling me to make a scrap yard or oil field something of value for the tunnel vision of a ork.
Honestly if morty goes up anymore he won't be playable again. The SK is more versatile and does more buff wise and shooting wise id even say melee wise due to his ability to make people fight last and he has a free 10 wounds in the form of lazer been things. Anx he's only 450....morty going up a 100 points would be an injustice and put him back at not being worth it like last edition. He's just a wrecking ball. That's it. Side note: where is veto and his scars??
The Pathogen you want on the LoV (Viscous Death) is almost always better on the Blightspawn. A Ferrymen (for On Droning Wings) Blightspawn with Stench Vats and Viscous Death is really, really good.
Everyone playing Mortarion or heavy terminators list. I really want to see a good battle report that uses 3 or 4 squads of 10 plague marines kitted out with weapons i.e. 2blight launchers, 2 plasma gun, plague spewer, 2 Flails, 2 bolters, and Plasma gun/powerfist champion; maybe one of the squads can be flamer heavy with 2 plague spewers, 2 plague belchers, 1 blight launcher, 2 Flails, 2 bolters, Plasmagun/powerfist champion. I am tired of seeing everyone play the same-ish lists of Mortarion or termies but little to no plague marines.
@@Chadegon1693 Very possible, but I would like to see a list with a good number of plague marines trying to make use of their special weapons. I would think 3 plasma and 2 blight launchers per squad should work, but points cost is always a limiting factor and makes it harder to make a list like that work. I've been trying to put some lists together that use 30 plague marines but always feel like I am coming out a couple of other units short. I believe rhinos are way over costed at the moment and miss the days of 35 point rhinos, though mine were a little more since I would commonly add the combi-weapon. I actually dislike a lot of the changes in the new codex. I want 20 man squads. 20 marine squads were uniquely chaos compared to loyalist and were fun to use; I also am not simply talking about the high mortal wound grenade build. Combine that with the previous version of the stratagems such as wound 6s being higher ap, which sadly is melee only now, and the strat that increased the number of bolter shots, and veterans allowed for efficiency with command points and gave reason to make use of the 20 man squads vs a lot of MSU spam that has been popular over the years for the game. I liked the play style of the 20 man squads and hope that they do not take it away from other csm factions. Also wish i could still take a combi-weapon on the plague marine champion instead of simply a plasma gun. Would like to have at least one squad do 2 melta and a combi-melta like I used to.
Poor Luca. He seemed so embarrassed. Dude, you were fighting Dark Angels. You have NOTHING to be embarrassed about. :D Steve. Basing the ATVs...bad idea unless you just pretended the base did not exist?
It scares me that 40k is slowly becoming more and more like AOS. Command phases, army bonus when only running specific factions, Mono build characters with specific loadouts and individual entries, Specific terrain for factions that give bonuses to them, Don't get me wrong most of these are good additions to the game. I just hope its not GW slowly making this a space AOS, which I feel would ruin the game.
@Zantron9000 I refused to Play 8th and now learning 9th but I still love old versions. I dis à 7th ed group on fb. You are welcome! 40kv7 is the group name ask to join if you want I’ll accept.
So sad that everybody paints the same color scheme… olive green or white and green to represent the deathguard pré heresy color scheme.. you guys have no imagination?? Un 3rd édition I created my own color schème which was white with green.. yes I created the deathguard color scheme without knowing it.. I don’t really use it anymore but if one day I want to, I’ll do it and it would be my own color scheme because I found it by myslf.. and to answer just use white.. white is white..
AcTuAlLy... Dark Angels are really good at fighting Mortarion, from 4 Damage Plasma Weaponry to Re-Rolling all Wounds on Deathwing in the Assault Doctrine, to the Landspeeder Guidance Targetting Stratagem for +1 to hit vs. a chosen target the Dark Angels actually love fighting big juicy high points cost units like Monsters, Vehicles & Plaguefestered Primarchs :)))))))))
I think you gotta remember a lot of the salt is coming from people who's armies haven't been updated. Mixed with the change in culture with the lack of the gentleman's agreement on power level, taking an 8th edition book against a 9th edition book is always going to suck. If you're a really good player you can make something ish out of it. But most people aren't really good players. Most people are average. And an average player with an average list with a 9th book is going to stomp on an average person with an average list with an 8th book. That's probably why it all seems so overpowered. Because from the first 9th books, the power level increases were huge, and each minor increase just seems that much more insurmountable to any army without an update.
The one and only time I for Morty with my Dark Angels he went down fast under a withering storm of Lascannon. Ofc my opponent having the luck of Wil Wheaton didn't hurt.
although I love the chanel alot of the batrreps have turned into neo heresy battles with space marine vs space marine with some xenos sprinkled in like I don't want to sound like I'm totally hating but I remeber the days when you would see basically all the armies played and i get you have to do what works best for the company. BTW ALOVE YOU BROUGHT BACK ACTUAL Heresy keep up the good work guys
Death guard seems really overloaded with strong rules and units now even if you ignore Mortarion. That army wide -1 toughness just for getting close to you is too much paired with how durable and killy the army already is
Doesn't the new Look Out, Sir rule exclude the Assault Intercessors from preventing the Chaplain from being shot because they have to be within 3" of him for that to count? If your character is standing alone out in the open, it doesn't matter if there's a different unit closer to you, only if there's a different unit between you and the character that also is within 3" of him (plus needs to be 3+ models or a vehicle). So in theory, all of the Terminators should've all been able to shoot the Chaplain because the bikes were behind him and the Assault Intercessors don't count for the new rule because they were more than 3" away.
The rule is a character can only be targetted if it is either the closest visible unit or it is more than 3" from a vehicle or a monster or a unit of 3 or more model or a unit with the bodyguard ability. If it's not the closest target and it is within 3" of an eligible target it cannot be targetted, even if the eligible unit is further away.
ARMY LISTS:
Dark Angels:
++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Dark Angels) [95 PL, 1,975pts, 10CP] ++
+ Configuration [12CP] +
**Chapter Selection**
Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) [12CP]
Detachment Command Cost
+ Stratagems [-1CP] +
Relics of the Chapter [-1CP]: Number of Extra Relics [-1CP]
+ HQ [17 PL, 340pts, -1CP] +
Primaris Captain [5 PL, 105pts]: Brilliant Strategist, Frag & Krak grenades, Warlord
. Heavy bolt pistol, Master-crafted power sword and Relic shield [15pts]: Heavy Bolt Pistol, Master-crafted power sword [5pts], Relic Shield [10pts]
Primaris Chaplain on Bike [7 PL, 140pts, -1CP]: 3. Exhortation of Rage, 4. Mantra of Strength, Absolver Bolt Pistol, Chapter Command: Master of Sanctity [1 PL, 25pts], Crozius arcanum, Frag & Krak grenades, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter [-1CP], Twin Bolt rifle, Wise Orator
Primaris Librarian [5 PL, 95pts]: Bolt pistol, Force sword, Frag & Krak grenades
+ Troops [30 PL, 615pts] +
Assault Intercessor Squad [10 PL, 210pts]
. 9x Assault Intercessor [171pts]: 9x Astartes Chainsword, 9x Frag & Krak grenades, 9x Heavy Bolt Pistol
. Assault Intercessor Sgt [39pts]: Frag & Krak grenades, Heavy Bolt Pistol, Thunder hammer [20pts]
Assault Intercessor Squad [10 PL, 200pts]
. 9x Assault Intercessor [171pts]: 9x Astartes Chainsword, 9x Frag & Krak grenades, 9x Heavy Bolt Pistol
. Assault Intercessor Sgt [29pts]: Frag & Krak grenades, Heavy Bolt Pistol, Power fist [10pts]
Intercessor Squad [10 PL, 205pts]: Bolt rifle
. 9x Intercessor [180pts]: 9x Bolt pistol, 9x Frag & Krak grenades
. Intercessor Sergeant [25pts]: Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Power sword [5pts]
+ Elites [20 PL, 380pts] +
Bladeguard Ancient [5 PL, 85pts]: Frag & Krak grenades, Heavy Bolt Pistol
Bladeguard Veteran Squad [10 PL, 210pts]
. 5x Bladeguard Veteran [175pts]: 5x Frag & Krak grenades, 5x Heavy Bolt Pistol, 5x Master-crafted power sword, 5x Storm Shield
. Bladeguard Veteran Sergeant [35pts]: Frag & Krak grenades, Heavy Bolt Pistol, Master-crafted power sword, Storm Shield
Judiciar [5 PL, 85pts]: Absolver Bolt pistol, Executioner Relic Blade, Frag & Krak grenades
+ Fast Attack [23 PL, 505pts] +
Invader ATV Squad [12 PL, 255pts]
. Invader ATV [4 PL, 85pts]: Bolt pistol, Multi-melta [5pts], Twin auto bolt rifle
. Invader ATV [4 PL, 85pts]: Bolt pistol, Multi-melta [5pts], Twin auto bolt rifle
. Invader ATV [4 PL, 85pts]: Bolt pistol, Multi-melta [5pts], Twin auto bolt rifle
Outrider Squad [6 PL, 150pts]
. 2x Outrider [100pts]: 2x Astartes Chainsword, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Heavy Bolt Pistol, 2x Twin Bolt rifle
. Outrider Sgt [50pts]: Astartes Chainsword, Frag & Krak grenades, Heavy Bolt Pistol, Twin Bolt rifle
Suppressor Squad [5 PL, 100pts]
. 2x Suppressor: 2x Accelerator autocannon, 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Frag & Krak grenades, 2x Grav-chute
. Suppressor Sergeant: Accelerator autocannon, Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, Grav-chute
+ Heavy Support [5 PL, 135pts] +
Whirlwind [5 PL, 135pts]: Whirlwind vengeance launcher [10pts]
++ Total: [95 PL, 10CP, 1,975pts] ++
Death Guard:
++ Battalion Detachment -3CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [83 PL, 7CP, 1,507pts] ++
+ Configuration [9CP] +
Battle Size [12CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) [12CP]
Detachment Command Cost [-3CP]
Plague Company: Mortarion's Anvil
+ Stratagems [-1CP] +
Gifts of Decay [-1CP]: Additional Relics [-1CP]
+ HQ [15 PL, -1CP, 280pts] +
Death Guard Daemon Prince [10 PL, -1CP, 185pts]: 3. Hulking Physique, Foetid Wings [2 PL, 35pts], Hellforged sword [10pts], Malefic talons, Plaguechosen [-1CP], Smite, Warp Insect Hive
Malignant Plaguecaster [5 PL, 95pts]: 2. Gift of Contagion, 4. Putrescent Vitality, Blight grenades, Bolt pistol, Corrupted staff, Krak grenades, Smite
+ Troops [23 PL, 447pts] +
Plague Marines [12 PL, 277pts]
. Plague Champion [36pts]: Blight grenades, Daemonic plague blade, Krak grenades, Plasma pistol [5pts], Power fist [10pts]
. 2x Plague Marine w/ 2nd plague knife [42pts]: 2x 2nd Plague knife, 2x Blight grenades, 2x Krak grenades, 2x Plague knife
. 2x Plague Marine w/ bubotic axe [48pts]: 2x Blight grenades, 2x Bubotic Axe [6pts], 2x Krak grenades, 2x Plague knife
. Plague Marine w/ cleaver [31pts]: Blight grenades, Great plague cleaver [10pts], Krak grenades, Plague knife
. 2x Plague Marine w/ flail [62pts]: 2x Blight grenades, 2x Flail of corruption [20pts], 2x Krak grenades, 2x Plague knife
. 2x Plague Marine w/ mace and axe [58pts]: 2x Blight grenades, 2x Bubotic Axe [6pts], 2x Krak grenades, 2x Mace of Contagion [10pts], 2x Plague knife
Plague Marines [6 PL, 115pts]
. Plague Champion [21pts]: Blight grenades, Boltgun, Krak grenades, Plague knife
. 3x Plague Marine w/ boltgun [63pts]: 3x Blight grenades, 3x Boltgun, 3x Krak grenades, 3x Plague knife
. Plague Marine w/ special weapon [31pts]: Blight grenades, Krak grenades, Plague knife, Plasma gun [10pts]
Poxwalkers [5 PL, 55pts]
. 11x Poxwalker [55pts]: 11x Improvised weapon
+ Elites [34 PL, 565pts] +
Blightlord Terminators [20 PL, 295pts]
. Blightlord Champion [45pts]: Balesword, Combi-flamer [5pts]
. Blightlord Terminator [45pts]: Balesword, Plague spewer [5pts]
. Blightlord Terminator [45pts]: Flail of corruption [5pts]
. Blightlord Terminator [40pts]: Balesword, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator [40pts]: Balesword, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator [40pts]: Balesword, Combi-bolter
. Blightlord Terminator [40pts]: Balesword, Combi-bolter
Death Guard Possessed [6 PL, 120pts]
. 5x Possessed [120pts]: 5x Horrifying Mutations
Foetid Virions [8 PL, 150pts]
. Foul Blightspawn [4 PL, 75pts]: Blight grenades, Krak grenades, Plague sprayer, Revolting Stench-vats, Unholy death's head grenade
. Plague Surgeon [4 PL, 75pts]: Balesword, Blight grenades, Bolt pistol, Krak grenades
+ Fast Attack [7 PL, 135pts] +
Foetid Bloat-drone [7 PL, 135pts]: Fleshmower [5pts], Plague probe
+ Dedicated Transport [4 PL, 80pts] +
Chaos Rhino [4 PL, 80pts]: Combi-bolter
++ Supreme Command Detachment +3CP (Chaos - Death Guard) [25 PL, 3CP, 490pts] ++
+ Configuration [3CP] +
Detachment Command Cost [3CP]
Plague Company: Mortarion's Anvil
+ Primarch | Daemon Primarch | Supreme Commander [25 PL, 490pts] +
Mortarion [25 PL, 490pts]: 1. Miasma of Pestilence, 2. Gift of Contagion, 5. Curse of the Leper, Attendant's claws and teeth, Phosphex bombs, REFERENCE: Host of Plagues WLTs, Silence, Smite, The Lantern, Warlord
++ Total: [108 PL, 10CP, 1,997pts] ++
really cool dark angels list seems really fun and also very viable
Cool DA list, how come no apothecary though? Would think that its an auto include.
I believe there are no boltpistols except fo r champions and charakters.
Fantastic game! Love th e Chemistry you two have
One day Id love to see Demon Angron with his sons
I want that for both him and Fulgrim
@@The-Arch-Painter Honestly they should just make models for all the Primarchs. Everyone wants it. They make money, we get our favourite boi's on the table, everyone wins.
Ya imagine a games workshop sculpted Sanguinius.
@@jaysalmon3259 I'd love to see Ferrus, but he would just run around like a headless chicken
@@ThatXLazerXGuy I think I remember seeing a Sangunius model
how to beat Dark Angels.
Step 1: Tell your DA opponent that there is a fallen angel in a match going on over at the next table
Step 2: Camp as many objectives as you can while they teleport their inner cicrle terminators over to the orc demolotion derby
Step 3: Rake in the Victory points
Dammit Steve!! You completely failed to remember your banner when all your blade guard and assault intercessors died!!
he even spoke about it before the game
Turn 1: tries to kill Mortarian
(Assumption) Dark Angels lose turn 1
(edit: lol)
Steve lamenting someone's dice roll is the acme of humorous.
Steves new army, led by SOME GUY!
The demon prince is a mantic games Plague A1 infected from their warpath range. It's the best mini they sculpted for said range. Honestly mantics plague unuts would be awesome for nurgle and genestealer cults
Thanks for your reply.you just saved me a assload of time searching the web.
No prob mate, i have the model i want to use it for flesh eater courts as an archregent
Beat me to it... By about 7 hours...
@@vorpalhit5952 lol
HIm with these wings would look good - wargameexclusive.com/shop/chaos/chaos-rotten-daemon-wings/
I also think this would make a good DP from the same range www.manticgames.com/games/deadzone/plague/plague-aberration/
Morty usually only lasts 2 rounds for me as well. But it takes his whole army to bring him down and by that time I’m on objectives and within melee range. He does his job well.
So his main function is as a bullet sponge? Lol, not what I'd expect from a daemon primarch.
For deadly pathogens, 10 points to give the flamer on the foul blightspawn +1 strength and re-roll the number of shots feels like an auto-include IMO.
or on the twin plague thing that the LoV has :P
Did you use the relic banner on the bladeguards? Looks like you missed that. And the fight back ability it has as well.
They even made a comment that they always forget at the beginning
They didn't miss the relic's effect (Steve reminded Luca several times that they're -1 damage received), but they did miss the standard effect of fighting or shooting on a 4+ when models die.
Arch contaminator only applied to core now, Mortarion doesn’t re roll all failed wounds anymore
Insect hive does it, which he didnt pick. Gloaming bloat is better since you cannot OW..
@@pytinxyjlo yeah but Mortarion cant take the relic. And what does Gloaming Bloat have to do with anything? GB turns off re rolls and im talking about Mortarion re rolling all wound rolls against Inner Circle Bladeguard vets.
Well just commented that here too, since they didnt remember Gloaming bloat turns off OW.
Mortarion has plague weapon so he rerolls 1's to wound. With contagion and his S8/16 he wounds almost everything on 2+
@@123Ireks yep, that is 100% true but he wounds Deathwing on 4+ only because of their rule. Arch contaminator allows full rerolls to wound with plague weapons to CORE only. Morty used to be able to re roll all his own wound rolls but not anymore. It wouldn't have made a difference this game but it's something I wanted to point out.
I think Mortarion is obnoxious because of his auras, and it is those auras that make him so dangerous.
That daemon prince looks like Swamp Thing AND I LOVE IT.
www.manticgames.com/games/deadzone/plague/plague-1st-gen-mutant/ I think its built off of this
Guys, it's always a pleasure to watch you two playing. Damn you make me miss playing with my mates even more, f****** covid.
Those yellow dice roll suspiciously hot in every match ive watched on this channel 😂
I really love this "post game warhammer rambles" xD.
Cheers from Spain and stay safe.
It’s so strange to see a dark angels army with no plasma, but I guess it makes sense fighting the death guard and losing the 2 damage with overcharge
Weapons of the Dark Age can take plasma weapons up to damage 3 (reduced to damage 2 against Death Guard). It can still be really deadly and wipe a unit of plague marines like nothing. Plasma for green wing and raven wing is always an auto include in my opinion
I really share the sentiment of "Thank you GW for all the cool new stuff, but please stop giving us so much stuff"
Yeah, if they perhaps paid a bit more attention to some of the factions that get less attention, it might actually help even out some of the games and get people interested in playing more than just Space Marines all the time.
I'm really liking the new format. The overhead pregame map, and graphics are awesome.
Steve! Deathwing! Lol, would’ve given Mortarion some work with all the new strats.
@17:00 "And If it fail, they are gonna turn tail and we're go that way." I guess "and they shall know no fear" does not prevent tactical retreat!
Shooting at anything other then Mortaryon would kill more then 490 points.
That's why they said people usually just leave him be and kill other stuff, but that also leaves Mortarion open to wreck face, especially against a mostly melee army.
Watching those Bladeguard get murdered by Plague Marines was possibly the most satisfying thing I have ever seen. It was glorious.
Really enjoyed the game and the commentary. Those lawn mowers are crazy, be fun to see a list spam them. Ravenwing models have a great paint job. As a viewer it makes such a difference when they are so well painted.
Is base for that nurgle daemon prince model a Mantic Plague 1st Gen Mutant?
That Daemon Prince is insane. Crazy cool model.
Thank you for the game! Please accept a humble request: Steve, TALK SLOWER, and please stop interrupting/talking over the other player. Hopefully, this is constructive criticism.
Steve, please talk faster I love it and I love your deep honey tones so interrupt whenever!
@@tommothedog lol
@@markodimitrijevic7171 trolololololololololololololol
Its definitely frustrating because the new books are good and mostly balanced... the problem is they are balanced against each other and not the 8th edition codexes which they are for the most part leagues and bounds stronger then. It will even out over time as more and more factions get their updates but for now it does suck to have to wait to catch up to the big boys, especially if your PA was rather lackluster. In a world where GW does not have to worry about quarterly earnings or cultivating interest everything would drop at once but I understand that isn't the world we live in.
well, I do not care about the power of the DA...but seeing the rules and colours of the Deathwing, I am actually sold on marines for the first time.
God damn it i wanted to see what Mortarion could do. Misses pistol shot, plague marines kill all the Blade guard so he cant fight, dies. :')
I would love to see someone use Typhus. Feel like he's better than a lot of people give him credit for.
he is worse than in the last book, but I love it that he gives his rerolls to core and not to the plague company which kinda supports mixed plague companys, and on top of that he can cast 2 spells, for me he is still an auto include ^^
@@grulgor7898 why would you say he's worse than the 8th ed book?
Is it the loss of his pistol? He seems to have gained more than he lost.
@@Blight02 he got -1 to hit now, and cant reroll for himself and he went like 10 points I think in price up, he is just a little bit worse in cc that's already it
@@grulgor7898 well he couldn't re-roll before without a stratagem. He did gain an anti horde attack mode and more attacks base.
We do love Mortarion. Maybe not every game but he's welcome here.
Why not try simultaneous combat where the initiative winner only uses one unit then player 2 uses one unit etc. Similar to chess until all units have done there moves.....
It's so frustrating that Steve forgets so many rules. The lion would approve of his stubborn resilience to RTFM. Keep going Steve, I know one day you will remember your ancient
RTFM?
@@AnikaJarlsdottr Read the f****** manual
@@bloodninja192 ahhhh, I get you ;P
Steve, you can get 5x pairs of lightning claws out of either the tartaros or cataphractii terminator kit. Should be a very doable conversion onto deathwing terminator bodies if you have a mind to.
Luka, although I agree on the fact Deadly Pathogens are really good on the Lord of Virulence, you should definitely try it on the Foul Blightspawn! With viscous death, for just 10 points you cap at strength 8( a great threshold) and can reroll the number of shots every time, which can be crucial for an already deadly weapon such as his
Also - you almost never want to Reserve Mortarion. There's not much in the game that can threaten to kill him in one go (maxed out Eradicators with buffs, Retributors with a stockpile of miracle dice). If your opponent is shooting their entire army at Morty and not killing him, they're not playing the mission or killing your scoring units.
If Steve didn't throw his entire army into him and instead just stuck the assault intercessors in combat with him and kept transhuman on them it'd have taken like 3 turns on average for him to kill them, or cost other units meandering over to help.
Maybe it has already been asked, but can you tell me what camera and microphone do you guys use?
Hey, love the batreps you guys do, but can we get some more xeno vs xeno, it's been a while since I've seen some Eldar action!!
Eldar vs tyranids ^^
At least we're likely to see some Drukhari hit the battreps once the codex drops, but I agree that until they get 9e codices, we alien enjoyers would benefit from kiddie table games!
Everytime I see Mortarion, he is a beast
Was excited to watch this. I love Dark Angels and Death Guard. But then I saw that there was a Tau video, and I jumped over to that instead. For the Greater Good!!!
Mortarion does not have the plague company keyword, so you only get access to the warlord trait and the relic, but you do not gain access to the stratagem.
Talking about illegal loadouts, time to magnetize everything. Such a pain but at least you get WYSIWYG
I love that mat. Looks like theres craters from bombs and what not. Cool color telling me to make a scrap yard or oil field something of value for the tunnel vision of a ork.
I love to see Dark Angels going balls to the wall versus Morty.
Honestly if morty goes up anymore he won't be playable again. The SK is more versatile and does more buff wise and shooting wise id even say melee wise due to his ability to make people fight last and he has a free 10 wounds in the form of lazer been things. Anx he's only 450....morty going up a 100 points would be an injustice and put him back at not being worth it like last edition. He's just a wrecking ball. That's it.
Side note: where is veto and his scars??
The Pathogen you want on the LoV (Viscous Death) is almost always better on the Blightspawn. A Ferrymen (for On Droning Wings) Blightspawn with Stench Vats and Viscous Death is really, really good.
Why did Steve remove that piece of terrain in the middle of the game ?
Everyone playing Mortarion or heavy terminators list. I really want to see a good battle report that uses 3 or 4 squads of 10 plague marines kitted out with weapons i.e. 2blight launchers, 2 plasma gun, plague spewer, 2 Flails, 2 bolters, and Plasma gun/powerfist champion; maybe one of the squads can be flamer heavy with 2 plague spewers, 2 plague belchers, 1 blight launcher, 2 Flails, 2 bolters, Plasmagun/powerfist champion. I am tired of seeing everyone play the same-ish lists of Mortarion or termies but little to no plague marines.
That might be because the loadout you mentioned is hilariously overcosted and wont do anything good
@@Chadegon1693 Very possible, but I would like to see a list with a good number of plague marines trying to make use of their special weapons. I would think 3 plasma and 2 blight launchers per squad should work, but points cost is always a limiting factor and makes it harder to make a list like that work. I've been trying to put some lists together that use 30 plague marines but always feel like I am coming out a couple of other units short. I believe rhinos are way over costed at the moment and miss the days of 35 point rhinos, though mine were a little more since I would commonly add the combi-weapon.
I actually dislike a lot of the changes in the new codex. I want 20 man squads. 20 marine squads were uniquely chaos compared to loyalist and were fun to use; I also am not simply talking about the high mortal wound grenade build. Combine that with the previous version of the stratagems such as wound 6s being higher ap, which sadly is melee only now, and the strat that increased the number of bolter shots, and veterans allowed for efficiency with command points and gave reason to make use of the 20 man squads vs a lot of MSU spam that has been popular over the years for the game. I liked the play style of the 20 man squads and hope that they do not take it away from other csm factions. Also wish i could still take a combi-weapon on the plague marine champion instead of simply a plasma gun. Would like to have at least one squad do 2 melta and a combi-melta like I used to.
What paints did you use to make the primaris librarians armour?
Poor Luca. He seemed so embarrassed. Dude, you were fighting Dark Angels. You have NOTHING to be embarrassed about. :D Steve. Basing the ATVs...bad idea unless you just pretended the base did not exist?
Great Dark Angels list! Finaly primaris!!! Thank you so much
10:19 yes you would do, if its 2021 and the meta is deathguard and/or some spacemarine chapters
Great battle, all a great classic Death Gard vs dark angels! 😁
Not complaining, LOVE the video. But was very very interested to see Batreps come out for 40k that weren't the crusade campaign.
It scares me that 40k is slowly becoming more and more like AOS. Command phases, army bonus when only running specific factions, Mono build characters with specific loadouts and individual entries, Specific terrain for factions that give bonuses to them, Don't get me wrong most of these are good additions to the game. I just hope its not GW slowly making this a space AOS, which I feel would ruin the game.
didnt that pretty much already happen with 8th?
@Zantron9000 I refused to Play 8th and now learning 9th but I still love old versions. I dis à 7th ed group on fb. You are welcome! 40kv7 is the group name ask to join if you want I’ll accept.
Not gonna lie, half the reason I like these reports are the post game rambles.
Imagine if instead of shooting Morty he just blew up half the Death Guard army? lol
that happen when you play against a well skilled player :)
Yup...there was a bunch of firepower that could of killed rhinos or anything else.
That DA captain looks amazing
Can you use a Lord of Virulence and a DP in the same battleforge. Also don't you have to re roll all the dice involved.
I've seen a raven wing army DECIMATE death guards.
Just buy an Assault Terminator box and use the extra bits from the Knight box to Deathwing them up.
Ah yes, Dark Angels most known hero, SOME GUY.
We only get to know his name once we're in the inner circle
Someone should really do a video analyzing Luka's dice over 10 games or something and see if they actually roll average or not.
I agree, they tend to roll high in all the games I seem
Dark Angels for the win!
Really enjoyed the post-game discussion. Good stuff.
Out of curiosity, what is the base size you used for the ATVs? I'm eager to put mine on some!
You're gonna have to work pretty damn hard to convince me that those ATVs are better than landspeeder tornadoes with assault Cannons and multi-meltas.
The librarian has the Deathwing keyword so can only be wounded on a four up. I don't know about the Judiciar.
Can we get some craftworlds battle reports?
What paints are used to get the white death guard?
So sad that everybody paints the same color scheme… olive green or white and green to represent the deathguard pré heresy color scheme.. you guys have no imagination?? Un 3rd édition I created my own color schème which was white with green.. yes I created the deathguard color scheme without knowing it.. I don’t really use it anymore but if one day I want to, I’ll do it and it would be my own color scheme because I found it by myslf.. and to answer just use white.. white is white..
What size bases are the ATVs on 100mm rounds or somthing oval?
Where can i see more of the DA army? Do they have an instagram?
AcTuAlLy... Dark Angels are really good at fighting Mortarion, from 4 Damage Plasma Weaponry to Re-Rolling all Wounds on Deathwing in the Assault Doctrine, to the Landspeeder Guidance Targetting Stratagem for +1 to hit vs. a chosen target the Dark Angels actually love fighting big juicy high points cost units like Monsters, Vehicles & Plaguefestered Primarchs :)))))))))
Doesn't Mortarion forbid all rerolls near him?
@@raedkhalil6937 I thought it was possible to Mind Wipe him and deny his reroll denial
@@alexanderabramov2719 i guess it depends if Living Plague is labelled as an aura.
@@raedkhalil6937 living plague is an aura. Most of the other warlord traits are contagions and not auras
@@adamwilliams4752 in that case that would work. You'd Mind Wipe it and get your rerolls back.
I think you gotta remember a lot of the salt is coming from people who's armies haven't been updated. Mixed with the change in culture with the lack of the gentleman's agreement on power level, taking an 8th edition book against a 9th edition book is always going to suck. If you're a really good player you can make something ish out of it. But most people aren't really good players. Most people are average. And an average player with an average list with a 9th book is going to stomp on an average person with an average list with an 8th book. That's probably why it all seems so overpowered. Because from the first 9th books, the power level increases were huge, and each minor increase just seems that much more insurmountable to any army without an update.
Yes laddddds helping me get through the day great looking army’s!
army's what?
Where is lucas tshirt from ?
What bases were used on Steve’s DA’s? They look awesome 😊
What size are the bases on the ATVs?
I might have to get a few
Wait! Some one there plays Tau!? Why have I never seen this before. Lol
They don't tend to play tau as tau are a "wipe away army" they deploy, shoot and destroy in three turns. So there's not really a match 🤣
@@121natt Yeah, let's pretend Tau aren't by far the worst army in 9e right now
They might not always be a fun match. I do love the aesthetic of tau. Maybe when they geta codex it will be better.
The one and only time I for Morty with my Dark Angels he went down fast under a withering storm of Lascannon.
Ofc my opponent having the luck of Wil Wheaton didn't hurt.
How did u paint the white part of the dg armor? Nice report btw
This match is just the Dark Angels trying to prove their loyalty by attempting to banish a Demon Primarch on some desert world.
...where are the Hellblasters! Steve the Lion is disappointed
cos death guard are all DMG -1 now so no point in dark angels plasma strat.
Luca why don’t you give Morti an other Contagion and give the DP the Contagion of the PC
Droning on Morti is good or ferric Blight.
although I love the chanel alot of the batrreps have turned into neo heresy battles with space marine vs space marine with some xenos sprinkled in like I don't want to sound like I'm totally hating but I remeber the days when you would see basically all the armies played and i get you have to do what works best for the company. BTW ALOVE YOU BROUGHT BACK ACTUAL Heresy keep up the good work guys
Check out the vault.
@@Black_Blow_Fly already have wasn't entirely impressed
@@jackconnolly343 lol
Last week's Fantasy batreps?
Death guard seems really overloaded with strong rules and units now even if you ignore Mortarion. That army wide -1 toughness just for getting close to you is too much paired with how durable and killy the army already is
Doesn't the new Look Out, Sir rule exclude the Assault Intercessors from preventing the Chaplain from being shot because they have to be within 3" of him for that to count? If your character is standing alone out in the open, it doesn't matter if there's a different unit closer to you, only if there's a different unit between you and the character that also is within 3" of him (plus needs to be 3+ models or a vehicle).
So in theory, all of the Terminators should've all been able to shoot the Chaplain because the bikes were behind him and the Assault Intercessors don't count for the new rule because they were more than 3" away.
The rule is a character can only be targetted if it is either the closest visible unit or it is more than 3" from a vehicle or a monster or a unit of 3 or more model or a unit with the bodyguard ability. If it's not the closest target and it is within 3" of an eligible target it cannot be targetted, even if the eligible unit is further away.
This is exactly what I wanted to watch
You forgot to use your Ancient 4+ banner in turn 1 :(
I Frakking HATE Chaos! And one day ..our beloved Emperor will return to us and lead us all to salvation!
20ish minutes in and both players have offered to concede. Mark of a really good match lol
I think its a little annoying tbh. It's like they just gave up and don't care.
Loved the post game keep it up.
Luca we used the same body from dead zone to create our dp!!
So concerning the Bike Chaplain, he should be Inner Circle. At least fluff wise, all chaplains are part of the inner circle.
How dare you ask gw to follow their own fluff! Outrageous idea
They are not. Librarians are. Only Chaplain-Interrogators are part of the Inner Circle, normal chaplains are not.
So does lukka always roll nothing but 4 ups? Those are some ridiculously good rolls
he's rolled poorly multiple times in a match before. luka is just favored by the dice and rng.
I'm excited for this one I been waiting to get home and play it
Plagueburst crawler where are you? Awesome game.
So does the post-game mean that Space Wolves are dog doo-doo?