Did Jesus Exist?
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- Опубліковано 18 лют 2021
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Sources/Suggested Reading:
Chilton, Bruce & Craig A. Evans (ed.) (1998). Studying the historical Jesus: Evaluations of the state of Current Research. Brill.
Ehrman, Bart D. (2013). Did Jesus Exist?: The Historical Argument for Jesus of Nazareth. HarperOne.
Holmén, Tom & Stanley E. Porter (ed.) (2011). Handbook for the study of the historical Jesus. Volume 1. Brill.
Levine, Amy-Jill; Dale C. Allison Jr. & John Dominic Crossan (2006). The Historical Jesus in Context. Princeton University Press.
#Jesus #History #ProjectHistoricity
To those wondering about the reference to Hinduism and its incorporation of Jesus, this claim is based on several contemporary movements in Hinduism, like the group assoicated with Sri Ramakrishna (d. 1886) who have indeed argued for Jesus as an Avatar.
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great video as always filip. at the end of the day, i think its fair to say that jesus did in fact exist as a person. whatever someone wants to think besides that depends on their own views. quick question, which was the first book of the new testament that mentioned jesus as the son of god or as divine? thanks and have a great day sir. I shall donate to you soon, love your work
@@barca29np Mark,
Not just divine, but GOD Himself
tbh, in every Gospel, in pauline epistles, and in acts
Why make a video like this right after your Advaita Vedanta video
@@niccolopaganini1782 no that’s your opinion
Coming from a Muslim background, I love how this channel comment section is gathering religious and non religious people to debate without any ounce of biggotry or harassment. It proves that most people who tears down another people beliefs are often the ignorant ones. Peace to everyone, whoever and wherever you are!
Thanks for the owner of the channel for his unbiased rigorously selected presentations!
Cheers 🥂 to that comrade
Those kind of peoplr dont take the time to watch these high quality, long videos with knowledge.
Im glad someone finally adressed that. Thank you.
Everyone will stand before God to give account of everything we have ever said and done in our lives.
Let that sink in...
@@danielmconnolly why cant you just post anything that you would say eye to eye to an actual person. nobody other than new york street preachers would say 'You will be judged and go to hell' in ANY conversation. how about you keep it to yourself cause that is the least convincing thing anyone could say, even religious people cringe at the sight of your comment
As an atheist, I have to say this was refreshingly balanced, unbiased and well-sourced. I grow tired of videos, articles and books that mock believers with non-stop atheistic dogma, as much as I do those that present atheists as immoral elitists and tout Jesus's divinity as objective fact.
His divinity is a fact there is proof
I bet u never read a single book critisizing evobullshit
@@anderrall1925 - *His divinity is a fact there is proof* please cite your evidence
@@anderrall1925 - *I bet u never read a single book critisizing evobullshit* why would we read books by idiots who don't understand evolution?
I know that this has been already said a thousand times but it keeps being true: "Atheistic dogma" is a contraction in itself, I think. If I invented and truly believed in a figure, let's say my imaginary friend Charlie, it would be strange to call others acharlieists and accuse them of spreading acharlieist dogma, whenever they say "come on, there is no Charlie". Acharlyism is the default state. If Charlie exists, I must prove it. "Atheism" is a poisoned word, it tries to manipulate the mind by introducing backdoor that there is a god or gods.
As a Christian I cannot get enough of this channel. So interesting! I hope my brothers and sisters in Christianity and outside Christianity have a good day 🩷
you don't have brothers snd sisters that aren't in Christ.
@@ks9545Why not? I was raised christian but now I am an atheist. Can you not have brothers and sisters in humanity? Siblings in love and empathy?
@@corrupted_fawn5885I’m a christian And i was always taught Humans alone No matter what place or religion are our brothers and sisters We as christian’s are taught to love everyone and have compassion for every living being on this earth Christian or not. I’m not sure why people are so negative when they say that our only siblings are in christ when humanity itself gives us empathy and love towards everyone
@@yaraortega2377 agreed!
I'm agnostic, but I always have major respect for Christians who are into history and who aren't afraid to go out and find other information. I think that type of faith in God is truly a calling, a lot of Christians avoid history or other opinions for fear of it causing doubt, but youre not afraid of that because your faith is so deep. Makes me really emotional actually. Bless you x
I dont come from a religious background,but ive always been so fascinated by religion,esotericism,occultism,mythology etc.I recently found your channel and im satisfied with your content!absolutely love it!You are so well spoken and i can tell that you do good research before filming a video.Keep it up!
Hope you find your truth ✝️🫶
Don’t let anyone convince you that something is true, stick to your own conclusions. ❤
Lee Strobel was an award winning investigative journalist who tried to disprove Jesus's divinity and got converted: Lee Strobel's "Case for Christ" will unlock the answers to who Jesus was. The book is good but here is also a youtube link to a lecture from Lee Strobel ua-cam.com/video/67uj2qvQi_k/v-deo.html
I hope you find your spacebar 😊
Smartass
I cant belive me eyes.. A video on religion that has no negative comments and such open minded people.. This is needed in the world.. I hope all of u r blessed no matter ur beliefs or religion ❤💯
Right, I wish it would happen outside my doorstep...and the world will live as one,nothing to kill or die for.
@Vic LTD hello my friend :" )
how are you? what song are you referring to?
@@Humpeltrulla since there is evil in this world due to sin, that won't be a reality until Jesus Christ comes back
though, today through Christ Jesus we can have glimpses of that life :" ) Jesus teaches us to live in care for one another, to help and love on eachother because He (God), loves us, and does the same for us :" )
its one thing I am grateful to Jesus for
@@joshua2400 The bible has been completely debunked by science, archaeology and biblical scholarship, but you can actually *PROVE* the bible is false yourself. The anonymous, biased fanatics who wrote the gospel fairy tales claimed that Jesus promised: "If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer" (Matt. 21:22), “Whatever you ask of the Father in my name, he will give it to you" (John 16:23), "whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours" (Mark 11:24). So turn on your video camera and pray for Jesus to appear to you RIGHT NOW, and post the result to UA-cam! Jesus will never appear because the authors of the gospel tales were proven liars. Praying to Jesus is no different than praying to Zeus, Odin, a Flying Spaghetti Monster, or to any other fictional character in a book. All Christians can do is make pathetic excuses for why this NEVER works, despite the bible’s promises. *FACTS*
1) If Jesus was real, and a god, he COULD appear to you, or to anyone.
2) He supposedly appeared to others in ancient stories that we have no evidence for (Acts 1:3).
3) Jesus supposedly promised that believers would “receive whatever you ask for in prayer” (Matt 21:22).
4) Regardless how much you pray or ask...Jesus won't appear.
The most likely explanation for the above? Jesus won’t appear because he CAN’T. Fictional literary characters can't hear prayers or do anything in real life.
The fact that so many Christians have to film videos and post comments defending their debunked book of ancient mythology is proof that the bible is false, and that the magic prayer superpowers promised by the liars who wrote the gospel tales don’t work. “Do not put my ridiculous claims to the test” said the liar to the fool.
@Aaron of Ruth Don’t murder any babies ‘on faith’ today just because some member of a death cult claims that God said so. "This is what the Lord Almighty says...put to death men and women, children and infants." (1 Samuel 15:2-3). So you’d murder your neighbor’s entire family, including his infant, if some man claimed that Jesus appeared to him and said you should? If it says so in a book with a talking snake, talking donkey, 900-year-old men, virgin birth and zombies, written by anonymous, biased members of a death cult who thought the world was flat and illness was caused by demons, then it MUST be a reliable source of real history, right?!! *SUCKER* - “a person who believes everything they are told and is therefore easy to deceive” - Cambridge Dictionary
Tell me more about this “Jesus is a psychedelic mushroom” theory.
There's a famous book written about it which kind of started the whole theory called "The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross".
@Let’s Talk Religion I just looked that up, and that’s a very interesting and weird theory lol.
@@LetsTalkReligion i need that book, NOW!
Boy, do I have a podcast for you!
Do not be fooled by false Fungi!
This channel is just amazing. Believer and non-believer people comment, and ALL in a respectful and open-minded way, which is SO rare when talking religion.
I guess I am personnally still questioning the existence or not of a God and have no clear answer yet, but one reason why I stopped going to church a long time ago was (1 thing of many) the fact that I always felt that churches were teaching what was convenient for them, and were hiding/ ignoring many historical facts, or ancient writings...and so on and so forth.
This channel has been eye opening. Always well narrated, and extremely well-documented, and does not lean one way or the other: just gives facts.
Unfortunately yeah, many churches avoid controversial topics because they don’t want to offend anyone or cause a difference in opinions to surface. Keep searching though, don’t give up.❤
Any update?
@@echollun I like to believe the there is a creator of the universe .... who is of course unknowable and always will be. I think its pretty evident when you do the reading that the old and new testaments don't really stand up ..... good stories but not historical ...... the old testament borrows from so many Egyptian texts and ancient stories and the new testament is just a mess ... especially the gospels. Have you listened to the Mauro Biglino series here on YT ?
I love this maybe don’t follow the church and judge the church follow the bible as we are all sinners - I beleive Jesus because not only of the bible but because there are so many stories of saints healing Jesus saving people appearing to them and this is what I love about Jesus, for me Jesus saved me from what I was doing because of his teaching there isn’t a more Nobel and perfecr man - I’ll pray for you but I think praying and asking Gos if his real and ask for signs maybe you will receive his grace and mercy , have a great day ❤️
@@user-vs7lf1vy9q Jesus taught this, but what Jesus didnt teach was that he was god
Absolutely loved the way you explained the cautionary tales from the Bible. It adds a depth to the message and encourages us to reflect on our own choices. Truly enlightening! ✨
Yes sometimes too young making choices no one should be in their downloaded hell
Enjoyed doing this collab with you. Let's talk religion again soon :)
This colab is not one I expected, but it certainly is one I appreciate. I have learnt so much from both of your channels
Where u guys get all the infomation and find out if it is legit
Always fun to work with other creators! Thanks for this! :)
Incredible collaboration!! Your timeline of world history has transformed my understanding of humanity. Please please collab more often!! :)
Nope just nope
I love ur videos and respect u but that is bad
Thanks, as a Mesopotamian Squid Emperor, I found the discussion of the historiography interesting and educational.
squid emporer?
Coming across your comment after scrolling for a bit made me LOL
Lmaooo
@@JoRiver11 elder scrolling... :P
So thankful your portal was repaired.
Thank you for this video and for offering new perspectives (new for me anyway). I appreciate your videos, the format and the clear explanations.
I'm so happy this video is favoured by the algorithm. Your academic approach and attempt to be as non-biased as possible is greatly appreciated and much needed within religious/spiritual circles
Me: huh let's see, I wonder how different other perspectives are about Jesus, I mean, they can't be that different from what I've heard in Christianity, right
Video: Jesus was a mushroom
Lenin was a mushroom
Marx was a toadstool.
Yeah, I thought your comment was a joke, but then he talked about it and I was like... what the hell?
Can you overdose on Jesus?
@@Niobesnuppa yes
Being a 'Born Again' Christian, I don't usually watch this kind of a video, but I found myself enjoying its unbiased presentation. It was very well done. Thank you. I have recently become friends with a Muslim and a Bahi and we sit for hours over coffee sharing our faith and respect for each other. For me, it's like the Apostle Paul saying, 'I am all things to all men, that I may win some.' After fifty years of loving Jesus and the word, my faith is on solid ground, but I have learned to listen; really listen to what others believe. Only then can I hope to earn their respect and have them listen to what true Christianity is all about.
Keep the faith on fire Frank!🔥
@@Nacho_el Thank you, Glaede, for your encouragement. I'm off to Liverpool, England now, where I was born and ran as a real scalawag. They know me well and can see the miracle God has done in my life. It's a real open door that the Lord has provides me and I love it. I will also attempt to walk one hundred miles on the River Severn Way trail I did twenty years ago when I was just sixty two. Now I am old but much wiser. Jesus will be with me all the way. Have a great day, my friend. Psalm 37:4-5
Man I love your comment, your spot on.
Having open ears and knowing your knowledge is limited and others may know something you don’t is a crucial part in Christianity because if you don’t then you will start to think you hold the absolute truth and oppose your will on others because it’s justified, which is how totalitarianism formed.
This vid explains a lot better than I can.
ua-cam.com/video/DtiRzQMgBDM/v-deo.html
i THINK YOU LIE.
@@malinstella6965 thank you for your nice reply. have a great day.
EXCELLENT !!! EXCELLENT !!!! Short and sweet - yet very thorough . Hitting all of the important points in the idea of Jesus. Thank you .
I know that JESUS is real! HE has answered so many of my prayers.i do have many questions that I'd love to have answers to.the one thing that I do know that JESUS IS REAL!! I don't know how it all happened, but it happened.
Your Arabic pronunciation of Muhammad and rouh-Allah are spot on. Great work man
Yea, I noticed too, it's amazingly good
No
I have photos of him $29.99
He pronounced muhammad like anyone else does.
@@accidentalpatient4152 Impressive for a white guy
Thanks, as a Christian, I found the discussion of the historiography interesting and educational.
I am not a Christian and i HIGHLY recommend you all to watch a sci-fi movie "the man from the earth" which will give you more context in a way to things talked in this video. Its a sci-fi but will give you context about lost in translation and adapting believes as per your convenience. Go watch it and
LIKE THIS COMMENT SO OTHERS CAN WATCH THAT TOO 👍
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@@ByOMview nobody cares
@@ByOMview ur indian so no
@@ByOMview it is a mediocre story that is badly acted.
@@ByOMview is there a big musical dance number at the end? Because if so, I’m in!
As someone with a history degree, which included a course on comparative religion. I think the analysis here is spot on. Really smart and well reasoned
MAN YOU HAVE BEEN TOTALLY TAUGHT WRONG>>>>
@@markjapan4062 You killed the chat
If you really had a history degree, you'd understand why absurd supernatural claims by anonymous, biased cult members are not "history". Dr. Gerd Ludemann, Chair of History and Literature of Early Christianity at the University of Göttingen: "Many Christians feel threatened if they hear that MOST of what was written in the Bible is (in historical terms) UNTRUE and that none of the four New Testament Gospels was written by the author listed at the top of the text." - Kêrygma and History in the Thought of Rudolf Bultmann
i was he 7 day old baby before solomon , the first boen of the covenant of david . taught for a 1000 years then sent back down that was the 2nd comming this is the 3rd there are 4 . israel gets a 1000 year kingdom then the end... i spoke to satan in the cemetery in jerusalem... 2018.... COVID IS BECAUSE THE NATIONS LET SATANS ISLAM IN... I GAVE A WARNING OCTOBER 2020. JESUS.... READ MATTHEW 23 VER 39... AND 2 SAMUEL 7 VER 12 THE CRUCIFICTION IS THERE... AND ITS NOT FOSSIL FUELS....ITS ME.
@YOLO MORGANNWG chicken butt ?
Really appreciate this video! Thanks for presenting it in the way you did 😊
I've just found your channel. As a Theology graduate I found this vid fascinating. Looking forward to watching your other vids. Thank you.
It's crazy how Jesus looks different depending on what region of the world the story was told and handed down.
Yep... it goes to show you that people don't mind MAKE PRETEND at all, even to the extent that 99% of Jesus depictions are obviously highly inaccurate. People are pretty silly with their superstitions.
It’s like Man made god in his image and not the other way around…
wat a waste of time that a fictious figure we are discussing about even after 2000 years who is of no significance
@@RahulRaj-tg2kr yeah Shiva, Brahma and 33 crore gods are not fictional and krishna the god who peeked at girls while bathing and stole their clothes when bathing is so much significant
@@user-dm1yx7qz6h lol go and get a life buddy !!!!
There was no Year Zero. The calendar went from 1 BC to 1 AD.
You know... Good point actually.
Why is time Starting from Jesus time, which time or calendar is used in historical writing?😵
The sixth century monk Dionysius Exiguus developed a calendar system for numbering the years based on the birth of Jesus thus the years are in Anno Domini (in the year of the Lord, A.D.). However, he counted backward wrong and his count of the years backward to the birth of Jesus was off several years. (Jesus was born between 7-8 BC and 4-5 BC, Before Christ). This year numbering system became standard around AD 800.
@@dhrevrogers so up until 800 they would count years ab urbe condita?
Dionysius wanted to replace the calendar numbering based on Roman Emperor Diocletian (a persecutor of Christians) with a system based in Christianity.
This is such a brilliant video. Respectful, insightful, unbiased. Thank you very much.
I've been binge watching a few of your docs but have now subscribed after you mentioned useful charts! I have loved their channel for years and it's always been an odd fascination of mine so knowing you're collaborating with them to make even MORE insane content makes me happy! Amazing!
I took a history of Christianity class in college and the first day of class the professor goes "yeah so we don't actually have a lot of evidence that Jesus ever existed." My very Catholic friend was shocked to say the least.
The beauty of a good classroom - suprising new ideas!
we actually do.
Thing is that among all prophets, philosophers and preachers, we have the most evidence that Jesus existed.
@@edwardmiller4190 Really we do?? Outside of the bible??
@@grayintheuk8021 a few Roman sources about early Christians. The main point is indirect. The Romans, even though they were initially very hostile to Christianity, never actually question the existense of Jesus and his crucifixion at the hand of Roman justice.
As a Christian I appreciated your professionalism and the unbiased nature of this video. Well done.
Thank you!
The rational and polite nature of the above message provides hope for all of us.
@@edwardhicklin9223 I mean most Christians, just like any other demographic, are reasonable people. It’s just the idiots that talk the loudest. Again, same as any other demographic really.
@@Glassandcandy I agree entirely. I was alluding to the typically toxic realm of the youtube comment section. The vast majority of Christians that I have met or been friends with have been wonderful people.
@@edwardhicklin9223 ah gotcha. I just assumed you were referring to the Christian part because there is a lot of toxic anti-theism in UA-cam comment sections on videos about religion usually.
I find your videos to be refreshingly matter-of-fact rather than opinion. Thanks for providing this content.
by far your best video, I keep coming back to it every other month 👏
As a Christian, I really appreciate the unbiased information. Thanks much dude!
Is it a yes or no
@@claytonhoffpauir634 it’s a yes
@@elilovesjesus9169 If it says so in a book with a talking snake, talking donkey, 900-year-old men, virgin birth and zombies, written by anonymous, biased members of a death cult, then it MUST be a reliable source?!! *SUCKER* - “a person who believes everything they are told and is therefore easy to deceive” - Cambridge Dictionary
Have you considered growing up?
@@Horus-Lupercal For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever BELIEVETH IN HIM should NOT perish but have everlasting life.John 3:16
I'm here because of Useful Charts
I may not be here at all. Or, I may be a mushroom.
So am I!
Same
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
@@mitchellc4 that's trippy as shit, dude. Starting to look more seriously at the whole mushroom hypothesis.
I think I learned more from your video than I learned in my religion studies class in university. Thank you ❤
That’s what happens when you sit on your phone
@@elka7823the class probably sucked
@@jakob9323 idk bro
Jesus is a historical figure, like Abraham, Noaha, David,Jacob,Moses and Muhammad ❤
Thank you for the quality content. This is educational, just what people need.
The psychedelic mushroom theory was first popularised by an English academic called John Allegro through his book The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross. It brought him both popular fame and notoriety, and also destroyed his career.
He also worked on the dead Sea scrolls and was very important in popularising them as well as translating some of them, including the copper scroll.
He's a really interesting guy.
An unusual career indeed
It’s the tree.
The psychadelic mushroom theory is interesting because Jesus is known for preaching love, and people who take psychadelic drugs report having a feeling of love for everybody. Also, herbs/drugs/vegetation also points to the cross, which is a symbolic tree, as well as Jesus' body being bread and his blood being wine/grapes. Other so-called "dying-rising gods" are also associated with vegetation/herbs/drugs, such as the Ugaritic god Baal Hadad being resurrected as fruit; the Sumerian god Dumuzi and the cedar tree; the Egyptian god Osiris and the acacia tree, barley, and wheat; the Phoenician god Adonis and the anemone flower and red poppies (which in turn associate him with opium); the Phrygian god Attis and almonds and pomegranates; the Hittie god Telipinu and the oak tree; the Norse god Balder and the oak tree and mistletoe; the Greek god Dionysus and wine/grapes, pomegranates, and the pine tree; the Greek god Hyacinthus and the Hyacinth flower; the Roman mythology hero Pyramus and the mulberry tree; the Irish god Miach and "365 herbs". There is also the Slavic god Jarilo (although I'm not sure if he is associated with any particular herb or plant).
@@tothboy01 No Jesus taught remission, reptence, and resurrection from sin. He preached the cross. Out of love. Not preaching 'love'.
No wonder Mario likes mushrooms.
It’s awesome to see how rigorous and academic history of religion is. Thank you, al muqaddimah and useful charts (and the wider academic theology community on UA-cam) for getting me interested in this topic.
You should also check out Esoterica and Religion for Breakfast if you haven't. They're in a similar vein.
Awesome!
Rigorous? They’re saying to best evidence is writings from 100 years later, which echo those of the adherents of the cult. Where are all the records the Romans nwere so fond of keeping?
If Mary had to travel for the census, where are the records of that census? Lost? Where is the record of his birth? Also lost? If he was crucified by Pontius Pilate, there should be records of that, since there are surviving records from the same time of other crucifixions. .
@@hopegold883 Wait, what? "The best evidence is (are) writings from 100 years later?" Actually the earliest Christian sources date to within 20 years of Jesus death, not 100.
And where exactly are these records of crucifixion that are apparently so common?
The gospel is the GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM!
Repent and believe the gospel! Follow Jesus’ teachings!
Jesus is going to return and set up the kingdom of God ON THE EARTH! God’s government ON THE EARTH! The Messiah will resurrect his people! The destiny of the Messiah and his people is to be ON THE EARTH! The renewed restored earth! God also dwelling with them! Rev 21
Jesus said the Father is the only true God!
John 17
3 And this is eternal life, that they know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent.
loved the channel, loved the video, loved the channels he mentioned. Such a great video.
I love this guys voice and the way he talks. Very eloquent and calm and sophisticated and soothing..
As someone who no longer holds fundamentalist Christian beliefs, I'm trying to learn more about the history of the Bible, how it was made (because humans/men wrote it), what was excluded/included and why, etc. This was informative. Thank you!
@Greg LeJacques
why are you running away When someone pushes a child to avoid being run over by the train! And if you die yourself, it's not a human sacrifice!
@Greg LeJacques Where is your Argument? Playing dum. is not an Argument?
@Greg LeJacques Where is your Argument?
Again! why are you running away When someone pushes a child to avoid being run over by the train! And if you die yourself, it's not a human sacrifice!
@Greg LeJacques Again! why are you running away When someone pushes a child to avoid being run over by the train! And if you die yourself, it's not a human sacrifice!
As a Cthulhu and cosmic abomination , I found this to be very interesting and informative.
there is only one cthulhu the great old one
Cthulu will rise again
@@AnthonyDoesUA-cam 💀
True love = the love of God!
*God himself went to the cross for you out of love for you as a human being*
Philippians 2:5-8
I do not detect much dwelling in madness.
This video condenses ao much information so perfectly! 👌 i love it!
Excellent as always!
"Excuse me Sir, do you have a moment to talk about the psychedelic and enlightened mushroom, Jesus Christ?"
*forgive me God for I've laughed at this
"Revelations" was clearly a byproduct of a malfunctioning primate brain, isolation in a island cave, and shrooms.
I am interested...
@@JamesRichardWiley Ancient people were so ignorant they had no idea where dreams come from. They thought dreams were spirits or gods trying to talk to them in their sleep and the reason they were confusing was because gods were so advanced that only a few humans could understand what they were saying. They thought the same about hallucinogens and schizophrenia. The book of Revelations came from the Magi, the same tribe of people who would instigate the Jesus story a thousand years later. They were magicians, astrologers, specialist in dreams and enemies of Rome.
@@aysenur6761 Türk Hristiyan mısın?
The real Jesus was the friends we made along the way...
@@HeddvildNo 😭 waa waaa
Mmm, seems to me if the evidence for a Jesus was real we'd have found something more than guesswork and conjecture by now..after all other people from this time can be cross referenced with other sources? You struggle to get unbiased information as to if he indeed existed like Christians believe, wether he was a wise man who died and rose again? Bit of a stretch of the emagination that one? It seems to me if you're indoctrinated from an early age its hard to be unbiased in later life, teach ALL religions at an adult age and see how many still believe! ...incidentally I'm a critical thinker and consequently an ex Christian, ..
@Mohdezher Derweshkhel and that is??
God is GOoD People who sacrifice their all to follow the white RABbIt and only AL-ICE was ABEL to fLEE with HER HEad as PETer pumpKIN EATer is harVESTed in pumpKIN SEA-son = orange Roe from the carp fish, Carp-enter comes from StURGEON = anDRew.
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As an Englshman with a very small right hand I am taken aback by the beauty that your wisdom provides.
LOL "...with a very small right hand..."
hats toff to your efforts and knowledge. you just got another subscriber
I’m pretty sure most historians believe Muhammad and Jesus existed while David and Solomon are semi historical and the others are pretty iffy.
Great video as always
Pretty much!
@@LetsTalkReligion it seems to me that historians believe Muhammad existed, the Quran he taught is the same one existing, but do not believe that the Quran is the word of God.
Thanks for the video, I do learn a lot from your videos, and others who provide history on civilization and science of evalution.
There’s more evidence for the existence of the Budha (Sidhartha Gautama), who lived 5 centuries before, than the existence of Jesus.
@@bearcb That might be correct, I don't know enough to really say, but why does that matter? It has nothing to do with the existence of Jesus and what we can say we know about him
@@zoeanaam.6996 Actually I'm reiterating the universal perception of historians. My belief in the Quran is strengthen by its scientific facts that are beyond human knowledge in the ancient era. Tq brother 👍🏾
As a Chief from an uncontacted tribe , I found this to be very interesting, informative, educational, and amazing.
May I ask if you are from an uncontacted tribe how did you get a phone?
@@mytwocentswdawnya2645I gave him one
Sure buddy
@@djafshin4468 You gave him the phone? I love the way you utilise my product!
Haha good one
I didn't grew in a Christian family and didn't know much about Christ except he was a profit like the others until I was introduced to Christianity and start to read bible and became a believer, I believe that he is the one who chose you not you, this is my experience, also the faith like love is not constant but it never fade away.
Thank you for video
I hope u know he’s not just a prophet but God himself in human form
Thanks you for the video,so I asking questions I 'm very great to hear that so on what century did Catholic started and year, thank you
The mosaic from Haghia Sophia at 17:16 is such an amazing piece of medieval art!
Great summary of what the consensus among historians is as well.
Hagia*
Its Byzantine Art.
@Sanctus Paulus 1962 Medieval art is considered the western art and Byzantine as the eastern.And Byzantine art is much older.
@@user-be9ey4jb3c nbbss
From the style, the figures in front of a gold background, it is presumably from around the 9th century (this mosaic) and so YES, It is early middle ages.art.
The music and the pictures give it such a spooky vibe. Early Christianity is such a mystery
Its easy
🔺 1+1+1=1
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@@dr.2k223 no, It’s 3 in 1.
read the books of st clementine, st augustine, and u will get a good idea .... for historical perspective, read eusebius's history on early christianity .....
Early Christianity is known as Jewish Christianity
@@mathewjose4753 Early christianity was the real religion worshipping the only one god wich the prophet jesus the son of the virgin mary carried it’s message he told everyone one that he is god’s messenger and he worship him too he is not his son
His majesty the almighty lord but the romans after jesus went up beside god they cheated and corrupted the real religion they replaced all jesus teachings with their pagan beliefs …
God bless you for this topic.
Yo, FYI there’s also this treatise called The Didache that went unmentioned. It’s like a non-biblical religious Christian manual and its dates of creation keep getting sent earlier and earlier. From 900s AD to 50s-70s AD. It clearly lays out all of the classic Christian dogmas, from prohibiting abortion to forbidding premarital sex and so on for those who are curious.
As a Baha’i I am used to people having no idea who we are so it’s a pleasant surprise when ever someone mentions it. Thank you for taking the time to accurately mention it in your video.
What are you?
@@conallomahoney9311 I'm a Baha'i. This chanel has a pretty decent video explaining it you wanted to take a look 🙂
@@nire135 Lost.
@@bcalvert321 ?
@@nire135 You are lost. Going to hell unless you make Jesus your Savior and Lord. You do that by asking Jesus to forgive yours and repenting of them. Jesus is not one of many ways. He is the only way.
as a christian, this was a truly interesting and fascinating videos. i have always looked for sources to debunk or argue the existence of christ, but they are always biased and sometimes even straight up disrespectful. thanks for this!
You could check out Nabil Qureshi. I believe he has a channel on youtube. His research about Christianity gives a lot of insight and you have room for further research.
Also why we can’t find remains or material or Jesus is because he’s in heaven. Every other god or prophet can be found and has a grave sight. I see only Christianity getting hate these days, but any other religion, I see nothing but ppl respecting it. That’s enough to tell you that God is real.
@@morbincentral3607 Excellent TROLLING.
@@morbincentral3607 Um..I have news for you...look up the church of the holy Sepulchre...
*The ETERNAL GOD would do anything for you!!*
Even out of love for you he went to the cross as a human!!
Philippians 2:5-8
Thanks for a very fascinating summary of what is known about this colossal figure. It included a great deal of information I've not heard before. I did a lot of reading about Jesus years ago and came to very similar conclusions as yours. I'm not a Christian as I don't believe in the miracles, much less the ascension. I do believe he taught important lessons about love and kindness, a far cry from many of the current beliefs of the religions named for him. Thanks for giving a objective, scientific view on this important historical figure.
Very nice approach, in particular the quotes you cited to increase credibility 👍
But I still do not get over the shrooms 😅.
But I think even a shrooms consumer can benefit from knowledge.
This is one of the best videos I have seen on this subject. Great delivery and non biased approach!
Very good job. Just one small thing: there is no year zero. After 1 BC comes 1 AD.
Thank you for that information. I didn't know that and checked before I started quoting that and it is most certainly true.
Clearly they didnt consult a hindu when counting
Hail Satan
Archangelo
Hail satan
Welcome Year Zero
-the band Ghost
Yes and Jesus was likely born between 8-4 BC
Yes jesus born just like the human. He is one of the best human ever lived. He is a messenger of God.
It doesn't befit Ila god to have Son.
Great talk as always. Mind you that the image mnt 14.:50 is for Moses, and it comes from the Jewish Synagogue discovered in Dura Europus-Syria: Abandoned towards the middle of the 3ed C CE.
Is not depiction of prophet forbidden in Judaism too just like islam?
I am most surprised by the heading on top of the manuscript that appears at about 18:05.
Is there really an ancient manuscript that has the heading or title APOKRYFON?
Where can I read more about it? Is the text online somewhere?
@Let'sTalkReligion
Thats called Apocryphon of John from the Nag Hammadi Codex written in approx 185 AD. You can find translations online with any search engine.
Now THAT is a collab worthy of respect!
Really appreciate your erudite and thoughtful expositions. Your love for your subject shines through, you are obviously a person of deep reflection, compassion and great intellect to be so engaged and inspired by the great thinkers of so many different belief systems. Would love to hear more of the Beguines and their intellectual and theological leaders😊
@@the1_MatthewGray
Not exactly. He concludes that there are people that concluded that the Christ is a mushroom. Today I would say some people will use Ayahuasca instead of mushrooms and claim to have the Christ spirit. Not that far fetched at all.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun through the heavens.
Jesus is a fictional allegory for the sun. Christianity is ancient astrology. It's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. . . .
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It doesn't matter to one jot at all about what the religion has become, it's so much more interesting to learn more about the world they lived in then; how they understood it and the nature of their society and beliefs etc. It would be most interesting to learn how much in common we have more than differences. Thank you for a lovely interview ❤️
After many years of honest and respectful doubt, it appears that the old Firesign Theater's comical description was probably the most accurate: " The Church of the Presumptuous Assumption of the Blinding Light."
Your videos are really beautiful. Calm, considered, respectful and intelligent
I absolutely adore these videos. I've always wanted to learn about the abrahamic religions from an unbiased source, supported by unbiased scholarly bibliography.
And your sure this is the place for you to find unbiased info?
@@justinsmart5870 it doesn't get much more unbiased than this
@@Celebrimbor965 how so? One person as a source is quite bias
@@justinsmart5870 who said we were only using this guy for info?
@@Celebrimbor965 not me! Simply explained this source isn’t unbiased, like every source lol, that’s why I agree it’s important to take information from multiple sources of different biases
Dude I kind of only have been able to find Christian sources on this matter when I research Jesus’s existence so this was a nice video to watch.
Josephus wasn’t Christian, he was a Roman Jew
I am puzzled that he didn't tell us, what Josephus called him in his writing and I'm sure it wasn't Jesus.
Jeshua or Joshua were common names, but Jesus name never existed in the Semitic world.
So where did this Jesus name come from? It sounds closer to Zeus.
Unbiased and factually inspired. Thank you for actually working all of this out
as always with many of your vids, I'm gonna use this for my Youth group so they get an academic critical thinking view of Jesus, perfect for this Lenten season, awesome work!
Love for my work to be a source of education! Thanks!
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun through the heavens.
Jesus is a fictional allegory for the sun. Christianity is ancient astrology. It's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. . . .
.. ....
Stop lying and brainwashing children.
Really appreciate your investigative work! Raised in a christian family (rather a cult that believes the bible is literally the pure word of god) this is strong tobacco! Anyway, it fits nicely into the stories you hear from scholars and mainstream religious pastors in western europe. Lets talk more religion 🙂
Love to the viewers of this channel ❤❤
I'm Catholic but I'm trying to investigate more about faith and other religions just to learn and know more. This research was great 😃 thanks for being unbiased and clear, it's refreshing
Don't just stop at Ur faith, investigate Islam too. They claim that all religions are from god and Christianity is connected directly to it. Cheers !
As a Catholic who converted to Muslim who renounced Judaism embraced Native American culture then reconverted back to Catholicism briefly and am now a Hindu .. I have to agree
@@cleo5079 I've been also investigating Islam on the surface, I used to have lots of prejudices against it but I'm glad I'm breaking those prejudices for it is rich and wise. However I don't understand the context of Muhammad the prophet, the Messiah was announced centuries before Jesus was born, but Muhammad came out of nowhere without announcements in a very convenient way. I also don't see a way of defending polygamy, and the Quran denying Jesus death, which is a point every other religion and even atheist agree on, makes me difficult to consider Islam a possibility of truth. But thanks for encouraging me, it does help!
@@crischiva1936and don’t forget muhhamad also married a 6 year old who played with dolls
@@cleo5079no thanks i dont like pedophiles
Okay, commenting on this video. I know youtube is going to recommend this video after 12 years..
What do you mean?
@@bosbanon3452 he’s saying hello to future viewers
I doubt it. those kind of videos don't get recommended like that
Prolly
Robert I Really Should Tell The Truth
I was raised as a Christian, but im Agnostic now. I think Jesus could have been one person, or perhaps he was a few different peoples stories put together, or perhaps he was just a symbol of faith and a means of spreading a message. Regardless, im a big fan of the New Testament and that Jesus is real to me. Though i might not follow christianity, i still live by what Jesus taught and find so much Biblical teaching to be wonderful as a way to deal with the struggle of being human.
Whatever jesus means to people i think how many believe in him in each different way that we do, makes him real anyway. Whatever that means for you. Thats i guess why beliefs are so very personal. ❤
Great video!! I recommend anyone interested in learning about the use of mushrooms in Christianity to read, The Psychedelic Gospels: The Secret History of Hallucinogens in Christianity.
As always superb. Clarity and an unbiased presentation, great food for thought. Greatly appreciated.
Thank you
I just want to say that I thoroughly enjoy your channel. It's very difficult to find an unbiased, academic source when discussing religion, and I think you do a fantastic job of presenting religion in a scholarly way. Cheers.
Anyone who claims there is historical evidence of Jesus is lying.
@@CalebBerman That is mythology. No shred of evidence he even existed. You can think what you want but nothing you said is provable. It is wishful thinking based on an accident of birth. If you were born in a different part of the world you would be talking about some other mythological fantasy land.
@Ray Pellerin - Real or not you will find out after you die. And if you don't believe you will spend eternity in the lake of fire. But hey ya can tell the devil I said hi 👋.
christians really are the most hypocritical people.
Ur the first guy to not feel the need to say what ur good at and how that makes him good too😭
Watching this once again on Christmas to refresh my Christian lore.
This felt like the first episode of a series - more of an overview than a comprehensive review.
When I was still in school, my history teacher told me that we have a lot of evidence for a man named Jesus. Nothing is to say that he was a savior, or the son of god, but there definitely was a man thousands of years ago who happened to be named Jesus
Um no. His real his was Yeshua. No such thing as "Jesus" in the Hebrew language.
And if were were to translate Yeshua to English. This name would be Joshua.
Okay well if someone told you there's lots of evidence then it must be true
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun through the heavens.
Jesus is a fictional allegory for the sun. Christianity is ancient astrology. It's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. ..
Nope, he is a completely made up personified sun figure.
When translated from Greek, it translates to Jesus and a lot of the New Testament was written in Greek
Just a small correction. There is no such thing as year 0. The "Christian"-based calendar begins with year 1. So it goes from 1 B.C. directly to 1 A.D.
Your channel and Religion for Breakfast are so amazing! Religious studies is such a cool field, and your all’s videos make it super interesting for everyone! Keep up the good work man
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun through the heavens.
Jesus is a fictional allegory for the sun. Christianity is ancient astrology. It's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. . . .
.. .... ...
Really Really enjoyed this gripping and chilled explanation of Christ Jesus in historical form..blessings
One is that there's new evidence that points to the Gospel of Luke being written in the 60s AD by discoveries of it dating from that time in Spain and Mark and Matthew being at the same time or likely earlier. And the earliest epistle of Paul is dated to the mid 40s AD, so more like 10 years after Jesus' death than 20.
This was a great video, thanks for your balanced and nuanced take
You my friend have earned my respect as one of the most important people on the planet and I say that the fact that when I read the comments I see people from other religions coming together doing their best to understand each other so this UA-cam channel and your other friends by esoterica and such to a really really incredible job knowledge is power
Top notch. Your eloquence and scholarly awareness is next level.
That`s very far from the truth. This is not reliable info, you can find much better channels with correct info other places on youtube.
I tend to go with Ralph Ellis's version of who Jesus was ....king of Eddessa ..leader of Jewish revolt against Rome !as very few characters depicted in the Bible existed ..
Congratulations for your superb explanation about Jesus !!!!!!!
This guy is good. He doesn't appear to have an axe to grind one way or the other. Good scholarship.
I disagree
@@kofiamankwa9258 why?
it becomes , favourite channel for me ,since I first watched ..wish we'll get such interesting video about the life of prophet Muhammad and also about the controversy raised by Dan Gibson regarding Petra...love your work
Good vid! Subscribed
Very nice presentation sir..❤
Excellent and extremely informative and presented, thank you !
I could tell immediately based on the thumbnail and intro of the video etc, that this would be unbiased and based on evidence etc, and it's very very welcome 😁 love your work!
Would like to point out that gnostic gospels are not considered orthodox because most of them are dated way later ranging from 2nd to 3rd century AD at least and hence, the early church reached to the conclusion of officially canonizing the canonical books of the new testament which we know of today that were written from 50 to 100 AD.
His existence is undeniable and undisputed. Only his divinity and what he said is disputable. Even his enemies didn't deny his existence.
Even robin hood was very loosely based on a real person
No, as mentioned in the video his existence is not considered undeniable. Watch it again.
As an agnostic I found this video very interested, impartial, which is good because you always hear atheists and theists talking about this kind of thing but they always add their opinion and that makes the information not impartial.
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun through the heavens.
Jesus is a fictional allegory for the sun. Christianity is ancient astrology. It's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. ..
Great video. Thanks for the very open-minded exploration of these questions. As to the existence of Jesus, it seems that those who deny his existence entirely, claiming that he is simply a fabricated character no more "real" than Batman, have a much more difficult thesis to support than those who accept his existence regardless of how the meaning of his life might be defined. As to "who" he was, that shall forever remain a mystery just as the "true identity" of each of us is irreducibly mysterious and can never be captured by any set of beliefs.
Nope. To put it bluntly, all Christians have to back up their faith is "Some unknown guy pulled a claim out of his ass". You have ZERO corroboration for any of these stories, and all you can do is repeat ridiculous claims from unknown cult members and logical fallacies. Liars can claim anything, and “Fools will believe anything” (Prov. 14:15, New Century Version), but liars and fools can't present actual EVIDENCE that their claims are true, which is why you can’t. All you have are absurd stories by anonymous cult members in a book with a talking snake, talking donkey, 900-year-old men, virgin birth and zombies, that promises magical poison-resistance to believers: "And these signs will accompany those who believe...when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all" (Mark 16:17-18). Go ahead!
Christianity began as sun worship, the stories about Jesus are symbolic.
He is just a personification of the sun, made into a god figure later on.
The sun "dies" for 3 days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin"
The sun rising in the morning is "the saviour of mankind"
The sun is "The light of the World"
The sun "walks on water" is just the reflection of the sun on water/the sea.
"He cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him", is just sun rays.
Jesus' "crown of thorns" is just the sun's glare, also know as a halo.
The sun's "followers", "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High": thus.."he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees, hense, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified", which represents its passing through the equinoxes.
The vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
The reason why saviour myths are so similar with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet, because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun through the heavens.
Jesus is a fictional allegory for the sun. Christianity is ancient astrology. It's just fables about the sun.
Check out Acharya S aka D.M Murdock for more info. ..
@@Gamefan86 😂
@@Gamefan86 😂😂🤣🤣
@@Gamefan86 Then how do you explain the Gospel? If it isn't God's word, how has it survived 2000 years? Why did the apostles give their lives for a fable? And most importantly, has the sun given everything, its Throne in Heaven, its immortality as God, humbled itself to a servant, and given its Life to save THE VERY SAME PEOPLE WHO KILLED HIM from their sin?