The answer is a very emphatic, very loud “yes.” Anyone who thought Fanatics would suddenly flip a switch and start making quality merchandise once they got a big-boy deal was naive. Making cheap crap that falls apart from a slight breeze is part of their business model.
Yeah there is no chance they improve the product. The on-ice version they may be forced to improve by the player's union but that product will never be sold to consumers.
Wish it was more like soccer where teams can pick their own uniform suppliers. Being allowed to have an alternate uniform that didn't have to be white would be pretty great too.
1) In the 90's teams had multiple options for their jersey manufacturer. CCM, Pro Player, Starter and Nike (I may be forgetting someone). The on-ice quality was said to be somewhat uneven between these brands, which is why CCM was chosen to make all uniforms during the late 90's/eary 00's. 2) Between 1970 and 2003 NHL teams wore light at home, and some teams chose to wear other than white. Notably the Canucks and Golden Seals wore gold for a few years.
Got some bad news for you buddy Fanatics has agreements in place over here in Europe to manafactuer jerseys under licence just like the MLB and has done since around 2017....Aston Villa and Newcastle Utd have had issues with their On-Field product....Castore design them Fanatics make them...Same issues for Sydney Roosters in NRL/NRLW down in Australia.
@@LSA30 I know they flipped the home/away whites, I mean having it so that a team like the Canucks have a blue home and maybe a green alternate that they wear if the away team's primary colour is also blue.
On the topic of chain-stitching, the Cardinals logo is chain-stitched. One of the changes that Fanatics did was to chain-stitch onto a patch (technically two, one for each side) and then just sew the patch on the jersey, where previous manufacturers would stitch directly onto the jersey. Definitely has a different effect. One of the other big changes in MLB was to shrink the player names, which obviously the players don't like and is one of the big things making them feel like replicas or knockoffs.
My dad won an authentic Chicago Blackhawks Reebok jersey off a scratch-and-win lottery ticket back in the day, and it is absolutely gorgeous. The only Fanatics jersey I had was of the Golden Knights from their inaugural year. I rarely wore it until recently when I changed it out for an Adidas one.
In all honesty, what the NHL needs to do is bring the manufacture of the jersey in house, integrate it and streamline it within the league. Go get/lease a couple of factories in Canada and/or Mexico, control production and sell them to get 100% of the profits from jersey sales without the limitations of the third party supplier. Have adidas or Nike design them if they’d like or better yet the teams themselves and problem solved. I have an early Adidas Lightning sweater and a newer Adidas and the older one feels of better quality than the newer one albeit both are great quality. Fanatics is going to teach a lesson to leagues that, as we say in Spanish translated, “what is cheap in costs now, will be more expensive than you ever bargained for later.”
im at spring training now and have seen mlb jerseys up close ... they look like a mixture between a tshirt and a real mlb jersey , they're just very thin looking , how they sit on the body and flow reminds me a little of those cuban or hawaiian shirts ... so yes i would say they look more on the cheap knock off side vs what i saw from last years spring training
For those who don't follow baseball regularly, we've had more updates as spring training starts to approach. We've now seen the uniform pants as well, and it's ABSOLUTELY UNBELIEVABLE. The pants are _translucent!_ They're so thin you can see through them, and furthermore, they're almost universally too tight! It looks like the players are wearing uniform-colored _pantyhose_ out onto the field, and there's already a bunch of shots of players with, uh, _unfortunate elements_ on display underneath. It's completely insane.
I have one Detroit Tigers fanatics shirt and haven’t bought anything from them since. All my Red Wings stuff is from 47 or American Needle. I have an old CCM jersey, 1997 Sergei Fedorov and a Nike Fedorov, two relatives had the same idea! I’ve never washed em and only worn to games couple cause worries about messing em up. Got as a kid, was giant then so still fit!
Oh, I got a preview of how low quality they can go. Last night, I went to the Blues game, and they had a new product - a Mitchell & Ness (but really Fanatics) “vintage” clown Brett Hull clown jersey, selling for $200. I wouldn’t wear the thing if it was free. The blue was closer to the unfortunate choice in the 90s than the new adidas ones, but the shoulder AND the main logo both were the cheap screen printed iron on looking ones. The stripes were also wrong, and had someone been walking around wearing that jersey, I would have assumed it was a knockoff or a particularly poorly made giveaway.
I'm just glad I already have enough Sabres jerseys to satisfy my wants. I have a Buffaslug (Reebok), Goathead (CCM), Winter Classic (Fanatics), and the 50th anniversary, Navy Blue home, and Royal Blue home all from Adidas.
I bought Hockey Jerseys from Fanatics, but My Adidas Jerseys are way Better. Now they are Authentic, but The Price $$$$ is only like a $60.00 difference!!!! I'm very Worried about the Quality for The Fans & Especially for The Players On The Ice!!!!!?????
The Fanatics partnership is the perfect summary of our current market trend: all products are expensive to buy and are cheaply made. We used to have tiered products where depending on your budget you could go for better quality for a higher price and vice versa. That doesn’t exist anymore.
I’ve seen a couple Fanatics x Adidas in Calgary & Edmonton. They seem decent. Getting rid of the chain stitching on the Chicago ones are absolutely sacrilegious. The MLB Fanatics jerseys look like the ones that Great Britain got in the World Baseball Classic
Once I started buying from DHgate, I never went back. Why should I fork over $200 for a jersey when I can get five knock off jerseys of similar quality for less money.
I haven't bought a hat I liked ever since Old Time Hockey was bought out. They made the best flexfit hats around and now most companies only release hats with straps. I'm still rocking a mid-2000s Oilers hat and a 2011 Bruins hat made by OTH.
Based on reviews by the ballplayers who’ll have to wear them, I certainly hope not. Maybe on especially hot days these duds will come in handy for MLB athletes, but as they’ve all stated that feeling of putting on a genuine MAJOR LEAGUE outfit, heavy with responsibility as well as the material, and beautifully tailored, is lost with these configurations.
The NHL teams usually has 3 sets of jerseys per player each season but if Fanatics jersey quality is as bad everyone is saying the players may need 5 or 6 sets to get through the season.
IIRC did the NHL say that the game worn jerseys would still be manufactured at the current factory in Quebec. Of course Fanatics can still just get the factory to make it with substandard material and methods.
I wonder about pricing/sales going forward. It never seems like Fanatics jerseys go below the sales they already set (a player jersey below $130 for example or a retired style blank jersey for under $100), but Adidas jerseys you can find for all kinds of prices, often cheaper than Fanatics.
apparently the same company thats been making the on-ice jerseys for the last 20+ years will continue to do so, albeit with a fanatics logo instead of adidas - but the jersey itself (material, template, construction) is not changing. They have never made the on-ice jerseys available before, so why now??? The on-ice jerseys will continue, as always, to be made in the same Canadian factories.
You're going to see it in at least three leagues. The NFL's jerseys are made by Fanatics and just have the swoosh on them. They no longer feature stitching for the numbers, which are now heat-pressed. There's now a pretty major uptick in bad press about MLB's uniforms going into spring training. And as you say, this is what hockey fans have feared the second the deal was announced. I don't know if Fanatics manufactures Nike's NBA jerseys. I haven't heard NBA players complain like MLB players have. Fanatics have cornered the market on cheap-as-possible merchandise and it really sucks.
At the start of the season I bought a t-shirt and a hoodie. After 1 wash the logo on the t-shirt started peeling and the hoodie shrunk. Absolute waste of money, never buying anything from them again.
The NFL makes it a condition in the contract with apparel makers about team-specific colors. It has to be Eagles green, Lions blue, Chiefs red, 49ers red, Browns "brown" & "orange", etc...
@@connorleeson7229 that shows that the NHL cannot or will not go the lengths the NFL goes to make sure everything about a team's trademarks, including specific colors, are used in licensed merchandise. The NHL should have forced Nike to use the specific colors from the beginning. Protecting the trademarks also includes the colors.
Fanatics sucks. I hope the NHL doesn't allow low-quality jerseys, and I hope behind closed doors, the NHL has told Fanatics their requirements for making their jerseys. I've never dried my jerseys in the dryer. The NHL should make it more lucrative for manufacturers like Adidas and CCM so they can make the jerseys for the NHL.
The hats are SOOO mediocre. My parents got a Blue Jackets hat for me when they first started from CCM. Still the only Blue Jackets hat I own bc the new ones are terrible. Luck for me, Civil War reenactment hats are actually cheaper than the NHL branded ones so I can just get one of those and slap a pin on it and im good to go.
something has been bugging me. I cant remember the name of the channel of the older guy who kinda copies the THG setup. Does anybody know who I'm talking about?
Cardinals still have chain stitching. But it's been downgraded onto a patch with an ugly white or gray outline. When it used to be directly chain stitched to the uniform without any ugly outline. Nike did shamefully eliminate the Phillies chain stitching. And none of their fans are happy about it.
I just can’t believe they had the audacity to give the players crappy jerseys. We, the fans, have been seeing the jersey quality plummet over the years. I’m not surprised we are at this point, but giving the players see-through pants is like little league stuff. Except the little league jerseys are probably better Fanatics jerseys
Hockey logos just have to be a stitched crest in order to look right in my opinion. It gives them that regal look they should all have. If fanatics takes that away it’s not going to go well
It's appropriate that Fanatics has an 'F' as its logo. As in Fail. As much as I'd love it if jerseys that were mostly identical to those worn on the ice were once again made readily available to the public, they're just too expensive to make - your typical hockey jersey requires more material than jerseys from other sports leagues - and there isn't nearly the same demand, at least not in America. The MSRP would be astronomical. I remember the good old days when River City Sports would advertise its offseason sales in The Sporting News and jerseys could be had for right around $100 USD and they were even cheaper on eBay. Good for the consumer, disastrous for the league and manufacturer.
Recently got two Fanatics Flames hats, decent looking but basically unwearable. Worst part about it is that they feel cheap because they probably were cheap to manufacture.
Go to a Braves game - half of the jerseys I see people wearing are the Chinese knockoffs - the colors are off, the logos are wrong and the numbers can be the wrong font...but with the licensed ones being so expensive...I dont blame people for buying them. The leagues are missing out on tens of millions in sales (likely much more) as people just refuse to buy the waaaay overpriced official merchandise.
I used to buy a T-Shirt at every Nascar Race I went to ( atleast two a year) I stopped buying merchandise we it became fanatics where as Shannon was saying, all the merchandise is made for 32 teams( in this case 40 drivers) where they just change the logo for the t-shirt design.
@@Mechanicsville804 ya it's a sin how far the of Nascar has fallen in its attempt to be something they are not and cater to non fans and international audience. Yes I hear ya, it really was unique when it came to individual merch and fan experience. Just read race today got rained out... Monday 500s are shitty for the fans who paid good money to travel and attend the race. All good ol' boys are gone and retired and now kurt Busch,Newman and Harvick are gone. I'll be pulling for older veterans like Keselowski and Jimmie when he races
I just want the Ducks RR 2.0 to come back. I finally got a hob where I can afford one, and now they're unavailable. 😢 There were never enough in atock, or the good items they make only last for a season. Way too expensive.
While I’m sure it’s going to crash and burn… I don’t think who owns the sewing machine here is the problem. This was, evidently, Nike that designed the jersey, the material, and required the changes to stitched letters and numbers and logos because it’s so light weight, the heavier stitching was a no go. Players seem to actually like the material, but they do look cheap. What I worry most with the MLB jerseys is that material… they make t shirts like that and my damn chest hair pokes thru it. These MLB jerseys will probably go through a fast change like those fancy Adidas ones everyone hated. What was that, close to 20 years ago now?
Just nabbed a current season Coots home jersey from CoolHockey. Since he is now the Captain of the Flyers; this was a good excuse to make sure I get a last run of Adidas “Authentic” before Fanatics screws the pooch. Was surprised that CH had the 23-24 design. An email from them indicated that Adidas had cancelled their order. Maybe they found a different supplier.
I think it's interesting to see the league go with Fanatics -- and all the other companies out there letting them. This might sound a little odd, but given how "Fanatics is taking over", this could be a major play by other equipment manufacturers to show just how bad Fanatics actually is, and that changes must be made. But no.. this was never a fear of mine. This was an expectation. It's only going to get worse. With that in mind, if Atlanta were to get a team during the Fanatics contract, I won't buy one of those sweaters. I'll wait until someone else enters the space. I don't want cheap crap that's gonna fall apart in the wash. For as much as we pay for these things, I want quality.
I've received two fanatics jerseys from a mystery prize... first one was Arizona Coyotes (2019 era) where the logo was what we expected from fanatics (lower quality and all) but the numbers (was signed Antti Raanta) where double twill stitched so was very happy with the overall but I did receive a Chicago Blackhawks Patrick Kane #88 fanatics and it was exactly as Shannon's fears were suggested on the beauty of a handstitched logo from other jerseys in the past from Reebok and others to this... this is not good at all and I am very fearful of what is to come. Suffice to say as fans, we'll be checking around places like ebay/FB MB etc for the diamonds in the rough for THAT jersey or... saving a LOT more $$ into our personal wallets because overall... it won't be good for the jersey fans for sure!
I have a Seattle Mariners jersey manufactured by Nike. Comfortable to wear and beautifully stitched, especially the logo patch on the sleeve. My Kraken jersey, which is manufactured by Fanatics, has a much cheaper looking sleeve logo patch. Still looks good though (it’s hard to make Kraken jerseys look anything but gorgeous) but the fact that MLB PLAYERS are getting cheap and uncomfortable jerseys is a massive red flag.
I totally believe that Fanatics will sell the same jerseys to fans as the players wear. The problem is, they will do that by making the jerseys the players wear be garbage, then sell that garbage to the fans. Promise kept!
Saw an “authentic” fanatics jersey at my local dicks sporting goods. From what I remember visually looked sort of similar to the prime green. I live in the Chicago land area and the hawks are known for the chainstitched feathers and that is going to be no longer the case. Surprisingly the font/size of the numbers on the back/TV numbers are the same. But yes fanatics is CHEAP!!!!
If the majority of players don't like them, they need to be changed. If the majority of fans don't like them, they need to be changed. There's no excuse for giving fans bad fan gear, let alone the players on ice/field sweaters, if the majority are not ok with a decision they shouldn't do it. Unfortunately, it's probably making the NHL lots of money, so they won't change from Fanatics and Fanatics likely makes good money too, so they won't change their production quality
This news is why I bought my Dad jersey for Christmas this year instead of 2 years further, after graduating. A less durable product is simply not affordable for me. I wouldnt afford a replacement
I will never buy a fanatics piece of clothing. My gf bought me a Sabres hoodie for xmas and in only 2 washes the logo is already starting to look quite worn.
I just went to see my local ECHL team last Saturday, “Indy Fuel” and I picked up a jersey. They might be the minors, but even they have better quality jerseys than the NHL is going to have in the fall. How could Gary Bettman let this happen? A 10 year contract? Seriously? Looks like I’m going to be getting my jerseys off of eBay, or only buy jerseys from the AHL/ECHL
I’ve been wanting to buy an authentic jersey but with Fanatics starting to make the official ones next season I’m holding off. Is there going to be a big change?
CCM made the best quality jerseys - replicas and Centre Ice jerseys. My CCM Centre Ice Mike Modano jersey feels indestructible. I understand the typical replica jersey that most people have will have a few corners cut because they are not pro jerseys - thats what a replica is. But paying $120-$140 for something thats going to fall apart is terrible and despicable. Once again the fan loses. If you have the means - buy an on ice pro style jersey while you can. It just sucks having to pay $300-infenity for it.
I know THG is dead set against China jerseys but I’ve got a particular site I order from and their jerseys are higher quality than anything from Fanatics
Why did Reebok get a free pass on quality? They were just as bad or even worst than fanatics. (The replica ones) They would get a snag by just looking at them. 😂
Doesn't surprise me at all and I won't be buying hockey jerseys after this season. The ONE Fanatics tshirt I have (a WWE one) was sent to me with the front graphic totally slanted and misprinted. They are a terrible company who have almost no quality control.
I believe that the fans should retaliate against this by threatening to not go to any games. I don't live in the U.S. or Canada, I never went to a hockey game in my life. I know it's hard to say "I am not going to my favorite team's game.". It could even hurt the team's sales, but if every single fanbase leave their differences aside to protest Fanatics, I would find it hard to believe that Bettman and his money-hungry boys would not react to it. It may even spread to other leagues. You cannot force your consumers to pay over a 100 bucks on a jersey that looks worse than something that comes out of China. Either Fanatics improve their standards, or they just flat out go broke. That's how you break a monopoly.
The CCM replicas from 2000-2005 are honestly better quality than anything today, the material is thicker and more substantial than the nearly $300 made in Indonesia adidas. Yeah they're replicas so not exactly period correct, and often they had glued on logos, but the glue somehow kept all my logos attached throughout the last two decades, and you can get it stitched anyway. And importantly back then they cost a fraction of what even a fanatics knockoff does today. Now there's nowhere to avoid buying pure shite unless you shell out hundreds to get an actual stitched adidas, gamble if you can even get a limited run of that jersey you want, or buy game issued or vintage. Dark days have already come for hockey fans I think it's just getting worse.
The answer is a very emphatic, very loud “yes.” Anyone who thought Fanatics would suddenly flip a switch and start making quality merchandise once they got a big-boy deal was naive. Making cheap crap that falls apart from a slight breeze is part of their business model.
And the saddest thing is the business model works. They're making money hand over fist swindling consumers and producing landfill food.
This
For real. Screw Fanatics and their scummy practices.
Yeah there is no chance they improve the product. The on-ice version they may be forced to improve by the player's union but that product will never be sold to consumers.
MLB players are speaking out show they may go for on field quality there a chance
Wish it was more like soccer where teams can pick their own uniform suppliers. Being allowed to have an alternate uniform that didn't have to be white would be pretty great too.
1) In the 90's teams had multiple options for their jersey manufacturer. CCM, Pro Player, Starter and Nike (I may be forgetting someone). The on-ice quality was said to be somewhat uneven between these brands, which is why CCM was chosen to make all uniforms during the late 90's/eary 00's.
2) Between 1970 and 2003 NHL teams wore light at home, and some teams chose to wear other than white. Notably the Canucks and Golden Seals wore gold for a few years.
Got some bad news for you buddy Fanatics has agreements in place over here in Europe to manafactuer jerseys under licence just like the MLB and has done since around 2017....Aston Villa and Newcastle Utd have had issues with their On-Field product....Castore design them Fanatics make them...Same issues for Sydney Roosters in NRL/NRLW down in Australia.
@@LSA30 I know they flipped the home/away whites, I mean having it so that a team like the Canucks have a blue home and maybe a green alternate that they wear if the away team's primary colour is also blue.
I like unifromity within the sport
Eventually that will change. MLS will sell out to get the rights fees from Fanatics.
I am planning on getting every jersey I want this year before Fanatics comes out.
same
And not even just new ones, surely this will drive up the market of old jerseys.
I'm saving for the end of the season where the sale blowout is bound to happen
Its what I have been doing since the deal was announced. Fanatics is utter garbage
yep already bought a colorado avalanche third jersey there recent one
On the topic of chain-stitching, the Cardinals logo is chain-stitched. One of the changes that Fanatics did was to chain-stitch onto a patch (technically two, one for each side) and then just sew the patch on the jersey, where previous manufacturers would stitch directly onto the jersey. Definitely has a different effect. One of the other big changes in MLB was to shrink the player names, which obviously the players don't like and is one of the big things making them feel like replicas or knockoffs.
There shouldn't be player names on jerseys. You should know the player by their number.
@@scotthouston6621lol wut
My dad won an authentic Chicago Blackhawks Reebok jersey off a scratch-and-win lottery ticket back in the day, and it is absolutely gorgeous. The only Fanatics jersey I had was of the Golden Knights from their inaugural year. I rarely wore it until recently when I changed it out for an Adidas one.
Adidas is going to get a payday in these last few months from customers wanting to stock up on Adidas before they’re gone, I feel.
In all honesty, what the NHL needs to do is bring the manufacture of the jersey in house, integrate it and streamline it within the league. Go get/lease a couple of factories in Canada and/or Mexico, control production and sell them to get 100% of the profits from jersey sales without the limitations of the third party supplier. Have adidas or Nike design them if they’d like or better yet the teams themselves and problem solved. I have an early Adidas Lightning sweater and a newer Adidas and the older one feels of better quality than the newer one albeit both are great quality. Fanatics is going to teach a lesson to leagues that, as we say in Spanish translated, “what is cheap in costs now, will be more expensive than you ever bargained for later.”
im at spring training now and have seen mlb jerseys up close ... they look like a mixture between a tshirt and a real mlb jersey , they're just very thin looking , how they sit on the body and flow reminds me a little of those cuban or hawaiian shirts ... so yes i would say they look more on the cheap knock off side vs what i saw from last years spring training
So basically a shirsey
For those who don't follow baseball regularly, we've had more updates as spring training starts to approach. We've now seen the uniform pants as well, and it's ABSOLUTELY UNBELIEVABLE. The pants are _translucent!_ They're so thin you can see through them, and furthermore, they're almost universally too tight! It looks like the players are wearing uniform-colored _pantyhose_ out onto the field, and there's already a bunch of shots of players with, uh, _unfortunate elements_ on display underneath. It's completely insane.
It brought back memories of the white scrub pants from school.
Cue the Ralph Wiggum “I’m in danger”
Hey Shannon, would love to see a room tour video!
Ive ordered a few jerseys off of DHgate. The quality is streets ahead of anything ive ever seen fanatics produce, and its a 1/4 of the price.
I have one Detroit Tigers fanatics shirt and haven’t bought anything from them since. All my Red Wings stuff is from 47 or American Needle.
I have an old CCM jersey, 1997 Sergei Fedorov and a Nike Fedorov, two relatives had the same idea! I’ve never washed em and only worn to games couple cause worries about messing em up. Got as a kid, was giant then so still fit!
Shannon, thank you. I’ve been shouting your original fanatics video to a bunch of my friends and left it in a few you tube comments.
Oh, I got a preview of how low quality they can go. Last night, I went to the Blues game, and they had a new product - a Mitchell & Ness (but really Fanatics) “vintage” clown Brett Hull clown jersey, selling for $200. I wouldn’t wear the thing if it was free.
The blue was closer to the unfortunate choice in the 90s than the new adidas ones, but the shoulder AND the main logo both were the cheap screen printed iron on looking ones. The stripes were also wrong, and had someone been walking around wearing that jersey, I would have assumed it was a knockoff or a particularly poorly made giveaway.
I wish CCM or O’Neills (in Ireland) had taken over, their quality is at least there and they’re still somewhat affordable
I'm just glad I already have enough Sabres jerseys to satisfy my wants. I have a Buffaslug (Reebok), Goathead (CCM), Winter Classic (Fanatics), and the 50th anniversary, Navy Blue home, and Royal Blue home all from Adidas.
Yep, I made sure this season to pick up a Home, Goathead, and Heritage Classic from last year while they're still Adidas available.
ordered the Avalanche adidas Blue 3rd yep thats gonna be last one for a while
I want a ovechkin and mcdavid adidas before they go out of business:/
At least my Adidas and CCM jerseys will go up in value.
I bought Hockey Jerseys from Fanatics, but My Adidas Jerseys are way Better. Now they are Authentic, but The Price $$$$ is only like a $60.00 difference!!!! I'm very Worried about the Quality for The Fans & Especially for The Players On The Ice!!!!!?????
The Fanatics partnership is the perfect summary of our current market trend: all products are expensive to buy and are cheaply made. We used to have tiered products where depending on your budget you could go for better quality for a higher price and vice versa. That doesn’t exist anymore.
Shannon, thanks for doing this video. I was interested in your take on this subject, and you did not disappoint.
Adidas did the 2016 World Cup jerseys. They were the “soft launch” for the nhl ones
I’ve seen a couple Fanatics x Adidas in Calgary & Edmonton. They seem decent.
Getting rid of the chain stitching on the Chicago ones are absolutely sacrilegious.
The MLB Fanatics jerseys look like the ones that Great Britain got in the World Baseball Classic
Once I started buying from DHgate, I never went back. Why should I fork over $200 for a jersey when I can get five knock off jerseys of similar quality for less money.
I have a Ja Morant jersey from DHgate that looks 100% real. Nobody can tell the difference that’s how bad sports jerseys have become.
I’m still hanging on to my New Era NHL hats. Fingers crossed they get the league license again one day.
Vintage jerseys from eBay all the way!
One that you didn’t mention was that Fanatics is the supplier for all WWE merchandise too.
He was only referring to sports
Referring to sports not drama
I haven't bought a hat I liked ever since Old Time Hockey was bought out. They made the best flexfit hats around and now most companies only release hats with straps. I'm still rocking a mid-2000s Oilers hat and a 2011 Bruins hat made by OTH.
The World Cup jerseys in 2016 were adidas. The league was still Reebok
Based on reviews by the ballplayers who’ll have to wear them, I certainly hope not.
Maybe on especially hot days these duds will come in handy for MLB athletes, but as they’ve all stated that feeling of putting on a genuine MAJOR LEAGUE outfit, heavy with responsibility as well as the material, and beautifully tailored, is lost with these configurations.
The NHL teams usually has 3 sets of jerseys per player each season but if Fanatics jersey quality is as bad everyone is saying the players may need 5 or 6 sets to get through the season.
Buying my next Jersey on DH for sure
Nice Jason Mendoza reference!
IIRC did the NHL say that the game worn jerseys would still be manufactured at the current factory in Quebec. Of course Fanatics can still just get the factory to make it with substandard material and methods.
I wonder about pricing/sales going forward. It never seems like Fanatics jerseys go below the sales they already set (a player jersey below $130 for example or a retired style blank jersey for under $100), but Adidas jerseys you can find for all kinds of prices, often cheaper than Fanatics.
I made sure to get a couple of the Knights Jerseys this year as it looks like I won't be spending any money on NHL jerseys for at least 10 years.
apparently the same company thats been making the on-ice jerseys for the last 20+ years will continue to do so, albeit with a fanatics logo instead of adidas - but the jersey itself (material, template, construction) is not changing. They have never made the on-ice jerseys available before, so why now??? The on-ice jerseys will continue, as always, to be made in the same Canadian factories.
This is simple. Make them cheaper and sell them for more money
I was really hoping New Balance would get the jersey deal because they own warrior
You're going to see it in at least three leagues. The NFL's jerseys are made by Fanatics and just have the swoosh on them. They no longer feature stitching for the numbers, which are now heat-pressed. There's now a pretty major uptick in bad press about MLB's uniforms going into spring training. And as you say, this is what hockey fans have feared the second the deal was announced. I don't know if Fanatics manufactures Nike's NBA jerseys. I haven't heard NBA players complain like MLB players have. Fanatics have cornered the market on cheap-as-possible merchandise and it really sucks.
At the start of the season I bought a t-shirt and a hoodie. After 1 wash the logo on the t-shirt started peeling and the hoodie shrunk. Absolute waste of money, never buying anything from them again.
The NFL makes it a condition in the contract with apparel makers about team-specific colors. It has to be Eagles green, Lions blue, Chiefs red, 49ers red, Browns "brown" & "orange", etc...
The panthers just changed their blue this year bc Nike initially wouldn’t supply their actual blue on the jerseys.
@@connorleeson7229 that shows that the NHL cannot or will not go the lengths the NFL goes to make sure everything about a team's trademarks, including specific colors, are used in licensed merchandise. The NHL should have forced Nike to use the specific colors from the beginning. Protecting the trademarks also includes the colors.
Fanatics sucks. I hope the NHL doesn't allow low-quality jerseys, and I hope behind closed doors, the NHL has told Fanatics their requirements for making their jerseys. I've never dried my jerseys in the dryer. The NHL should make it more lucrative for manufacturers like Adidas and CCM so they can make the jerseys for the NHL.
The hats are SOOO mediocre. My parents got a Blue Jackets hat for me when they first started from CCM. Still the only Blue Jackets hat I own bc the new ones are terrible. Luck for me, Civil War reenactment hats are actually cheaper than the NHL branded ones so I can just get one of those and slap a pin on it and im good to go.
They guys over at Geeky Jerseys make a great product... wish they would have bid :)
It’s a shame because Adidas makes some really nice hockey jerseys
something has been bugging me. I cant remember the name of the channel of the older guy who kinda copies the THG setup. Does anybody know who I'm talking about?
Love my CCM AHL jersey.
Cardinals still have chain stitching. But it's been downgraded onto a patch with an ugly white or gray outline. When it used to be directly chain stitched to the uniform without any ugly outline. Nike did shamefully eliminate the Phillies chain stitching. And none of their fans are happy about it.
I just can’t believe they had the audacity to give the players crappy jerseys. We, the fans, have been seeing the jersey quality plummet over the years. I’m not surprised we are at this point, but giving the players see-through pants is like little league stuff. Except the little league jerseys are probably better Fanatics jerseys
Hockey logos just have to be a stitched crest in order to look right in my opinion. It gives them that regal look they should all have. If fanatics takes that away it’s not going to go well
It's appropriate that Fanatics has an 'F' as its logo. As in Fail.
As much as I'd love it if jerseys that were mostly identical to those worn on the ice were once again made readily available to the public, they're just too expensive to make - your typical hockey jersey requires more material than jerseys from other sports leagues - and there isn't nearly the same demand, at least not in America. The MSRP would be astronomical.
I remember the good old days when River City Sports would advertise its offseason sales in The Sporting News and jerseys could be had for right around $100 USD and they were even cheaper on eBay. Good for the consumer, disastrous for the league and manufacturer.
Guess I should be getting a flames jersey 😂. Now do I go the classic red or the blasty 🤔
Recently got two Fanatics Flames hats, decent looking but basically unwearable. Worst part about it is that they feel cheap because they probably were cheap to manufacture.
Fanatics makes all my college merch too… absolutely wild
Oh topic here , is espn + good for watching hockey or waste of money. Im an oilers fan from California.
Can't help you there, we have different options in Canada. You could ask people on the discord though.
People need to stop buying merch at this point
Im sure fantatics have some skeletons in there closet they dont want out
Go to a Braves game - half of the jerseys I see people wearing are the Chinese knockoffs - the colors are off, the logos are wrong and the numbers can be the wrong font...but with the licensed ones being so expensive...I dont blame people for buying them. The leagues are missing out on tens of millions in sales (likely much more) as people just refuse to buy the waaaay overpriced official merchandise.
I used to buy a T-Shirt at every Nascar Race I went to ( atleast two a year) I stopped buying merchandise we it became fanatics where as Shannon was saying, all the merchandise is made for 32 teams( in this case 40 drivers) where they just change the logo for the t-shirt design.
I miss old Nascar merch and old Nascar period. I almost forget it's Daytona 500 weekend...
@@MacNur-tu3cq yeah in the old days the drivers would bring their merchandise so everything was unique. I loved it
@@Mechanicsville804 ya it's a sin how far the of Nascar has fallen in its attempt to be something they are not and cater to non fans and international audience. Yes I hear ya, it really was unique when it came to individual merch and fan experience. Just read race today got rained out... Monday 500s are shitty for the fans who paid good money to travel and attend the race. All good ol' boys are gone and retired and now kurt Busch,Newman and Harvick are gone. I'll be pulling for older veterans like Keselowski and Jimmie when he races
@@MacNur-tu3cq catering to non-fans to grow the sport is the same thing the NHL is doing.
Yuck. Looks like something off the shelf at Wal-Mart.
only problem i find is the crest is lower then it should be
Madness for Nike to let a company like Fanatics to manufacture under its name.
They're even doing rock band t-shirts now
I just want the Ducks RR 2.0 to come back. I finally got a hob where I can afford one, and now they're unavailable. 😢
There were never enough in atock, or the good items they make only last for a season. Way too expensive.
While I’m sure it’s going to crash and burn… I don’t think who owns the sewing machine here is the problem. This was, evidently, Nike that designed the jersey, the material, and required the changes to stitched letters and numbers and logos because it’s so light weight, the heavier stitching was a no go. Players seem to actually like the material, but they do look cheap. What I worry most with the MLB jerseys is that material… they make t shirts like that and my damn chest hair pokes thru it.
These MLB jerseys will probably go through a fast change like those fancy Adidas ones everyone hated. What was that, close to 20 years ago now?
Just nabbed a current season Coots home jersey from CoolHockey. Since he is now the Captain of the Flyers; this was a good excuse to make sure I get a last run of Adidas “Authentic” before Fanatics screws the pooch. Was surprised that CH had the 23-24 design. An email from them indicated that Adidas had cancelled their order. Maybe they found a different supplier.
Fanatics is absolutely gonna mess this up.
You know it’s bad when even the Reebok edge replicas look dramatically superior to the fanatics replicas.
Chicago Blackhawks is the best logo in all sports i 100 percent agree!
fanatics are the worst thing to happen to sports merchandise. they’ve destroyed the industry.
Hold your CCMs and Adidas jerseys close
I think it's interesting to see the league go with Fanatics -- and all the other companies out there letting them. This might sound a little odd, but given how "Fanatics is taking over", this could be a major play by other equipment manufacturers to show just how bad Fanatics actually is, and that changes must be made.
But no.. this was never a fear of mine. This was an expectation. It's only going to get worse. With that in mind, if Atlanta were to get a team during the Fanatics contract, I won't buy one of those sweaters. I'll wait until someone else enters the space. I don't want cheap crap that's gonna fall apart in the wash. For as much as we pay for these things, I want quality.
I've received two fanatics jerseys from a mystery prize... first one was Arizona Coyotes (2019 era) where the logo was what we expected from fanatics (lower quality and all) but the numbers (was signed Antti Raanta) where double twill stitched so was very happy with the overall but I did receive a Chicago Blackhawks Patrick Kane #88 fanatics and it was exactly as Shannon's fears were suggested on the beauty of a handstitched logo from other jerseys in the past from Reebok and others to this... this is not good at all and I am very fearful of what is to come. Suffice to say as fans, we'll be checking around places like ebay/FB MB etc for the diamonds in the rough for THAT jersey or... saving a LOT more $$ into our personal wallets because overall... it won't be good for the jersey fans for sure!
I have a Seattle Mariners jersey manufactured by Nike. Comfortable to wear and beautifully stitched, especially the logo patch on the sleeve. My Kraken jersey, which is manufactured by Fanatics, has a much cheaper looking sleeve logo patch. Still looks good though (it’s hard to make Kraken jerseys look anything but gorgeous) but the fact that MLB PLAYERS are getting cheap and uncomfortable jerseys is a massive red flag.
I totally believe that Fanatics will sell the same jerseys to fans as the players wear. The problem is, they will do that by making the jerseys the players wear be garbage, then sell that garbage to the fans. Promise kept!
Saw an “authentic” fanatics jersey at my local dicks sporting goods. From what I remember visually looked sort of similar to the prime green. I live in the Chicago land area and the hawks are known for the chainstitched feathers and that is going to be no longer the case. Surprisingly the font/size of the numbers on the back/TV numbers are the same. But yes fanatics is CHEAP!!!!
If the majority of players don't like them, they need to be changed. If the majority of fans don't like them, they need to be changed. There's no excuse for giving fans bad fan gear, let alone the players on ice/field sweaters, if the majority are not ok with a decision they shouldn't do it. Unfortunately, it's probably making the NHL lots of money, so they won't change from Fanatics and Fanatics likely makes good money too, so they won't change their production quality
This news is why I bought my Dad jersey for Christmas this year instead of 2 years further, after graduating. A less durable product is simply not affordable for me. I wouldnt afford a replacement
CCM didnt even bid question is did Hedi Browning Director of Marketing even offer an invitation
Shannon have you ever ordered a jersey off DHGATE before? I ordered a Bobby Brink Burnt orange flyers jersey. I’m suppose to get it next month.
I will never buy a fanatics piece of clothing. My gf bought me a Sabres hoodie for xmas and in only 2 washes the logo is already starting to look quite worn.
I just went to see my local ECHL team last Saturday, “Indy Fuel” and I picked up a jersey. They might be the minors, but even they have better quality jerseys than the NHL is going to have in the fall.
How could Gary Bettman let this happen? A 10 year contract? Seriously? Looks like I’m going to be getting my jerseys off of eBay, or only buy jerseys from the AHL/ECHL
One word: MONEY.
Yes
I’ve been wanting to buy an authentic jersey but with Fanatics starting to make the official ones next season I’m holding off. Is there going to be a big change?
They were run out of Jacksonville 😅😂
With pitchforks and torches😊😅
MLS should value their adidas partnership because I love how they did the flyers jerseys. NHL is making a big mistake partnering with fanatics.
CCM made the best quality jerseys - replicas and Centre Ice jerseys. My CCM Centre Ice Mike Modano jersey feels indestructible. I understand the typical replica jersey that most people have will have a few corners cut because they are not pro jerseys - thats what a replica is. But paying $120-$140 for something thats going to fall apart is terrible and despicable. Once again the fan loses. If you have the means - buy an on ice pro style jersey while you can. It just sucks having to pay $300-infenity for it.
Still waiting on the THG hat countdown
I avoid anything Fanatics branded.
Even their shirts I've gotten the stitching always ends up coming undone on either a sleeve or the waist. Garbage company.
yeah definitely threatening the jersey collecting hobby. Why would anyone want to spend as much or probably more money on a lower quality product.
I wonder if the remaining Adidas jersey will go on sales when the new Fanatics arrived.
The pathetic thing is people that talk about how they would never by Fanatics yet go and buy Fanatics.
I know THG is dead set against China jerseys but I’ve got a particular site I order from and their jerseys are higher quality than anything from Fanatics
DH Gate?
Why did Reebok get a free pass on quality? They were just as bad or even worst than fanatics. (The replica ones) They would get a snag by just looking at them. 😂
So was Fanatics hooked up with the gambling site (fan duel?) When the NHL signed on with them?
Seems like they would try to avoid the optics on that.
Doesn't surprise me at all and I won't be buying hockey jerseys after this season. The ONE Fanatics tshirt I have (a WWE one) was sent to me with the front graphic totally slanted and misprinted. They are a terrible company who have almost no quality control.
I can tell you an Adidas MIC costs $50 to make. Not that crazy
Fanatics is the EA Sports of fan wear
I believe that the fans should retaliate against this by threatening to not go to any games. I don't live in the U.S. or Canada, I never went to a hockey game in my life. I know it's hard to say "I am not going to my favorite team's game.". It could even hurt the team's sales, but if every single fanbase leave their differences aside to protest Fanatics, I would find it hard to believe that Bettman and his money-hungry boys would not react to it. It may even spread to other leagues. You cannot force your consumers to pay over a 100 bucks on a jersey that looks worse than something that comes out of China. Either Fanatics improve their standards, or they just flat out go broke. That's how you break a monopoly.
Not buying tickets isn’t going to affect fanatics.
They don’t sell the tickets. They sell merch.
This makes absolutely no sense.
@@invertedxxxi the NHL made the contract. If the NHL suffers, they can look again at the deal so they can save themselves.
That’s what I’ve been saying. They’ll be good for the first few years then they’ll drop the quality as the years go by.
i have CCM jerseys that are still in greater shape than anything i got from fanatics. thoses CCM jerseys were demos from 1992 btw.
I got a custom Giguere jersey recently that’s a CCM. Still better than anything Fanatics.
The CCM replicas from 2000-2005 are honestly better quality than anything today, the material is thicker and more substantial than the nearly $300 made in Indonesia adidas. Yeah they're replicas so not exactly period correct, and often they had glued on logos, but the glue somehow kept all my logos attached throughout the last two decades, and you can get it stitched anyway. And importantly back then they cost a fraction of what even a fanatics knockoff does today. Now there's nowhere to avoid buying pure shite unless you shell out hundreds to get an actual stitched adidas, gamble if you can even get a limited run of that jersey you want, or buy game issued or vintage. Dark days have already come for hockey fans I think it's just getting worse.