Are MLB's New Fanatics Jerseys a Window Into the NHL's Future?

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  • @tehbeernerd
    @tehbeernerd 10 місяців тому +485

    The answer is a very emphatic, very loud “yes.” Anyone who thought Fanatics would suddenly flip a switch and start making quality merchandise once they got a big-boy deal was naive. Making cheap crap that falls apart from a slight breeze is part of their business model.

    • @AmokCanuck
      @AmokCanuck 10 місяців тому

      And the saddest thing is the business model works. They're making money hand over fist swindling consumers and producing landfill food.

    • @shawklan27
      @shawklan27 10 місяців тому +5

      This

    • @choppergunner8650
      @choppergunner8650 10 місяців тому +21

      For real. Screw Fanatics and their scummy practices.

    • @mat5473
      @mat5473 10 місяців тому +13

      Yeah there is no chance they improve the product. The on-ice version they may be forced to improve by the player's union but that product will never be sold to consumers.

    • @JBTriple8
      @JBTriple8 10 місяців тому +1

      MLB players are speaking out show they may go for on field quality there a chance

  • @chrisbelos2834
    @chrisbelos2834 10 місяців тому +254

    i have CCM jerseys that are still in greater shape than anything i got from fanatics. thoses CCM jerseys were demos from 1992 btw.

    • @seanpoulton2446
      @seanpoulton2446 10 місяців тому +9

      I got a custom Giguere jersey recently that’s a CCM. Still better than anything Fanatics.

    • @onikwa
      @onikwa 10 місяців тому +7

      The CCM replicas from 2000-2005 are honestly better quality than anything today, the material is thicker and more substantial than the nearly $300 made in Indonesia adidas. Yeah they're replicas so not exactly period correct, and often they had glued on logos, but the glue somehow kept all my logos attached throughout the last two decades, and you can get it stitched anyway. And importantly back then they cost a fraction of what even a fanatics knockoff does today. Now there's nowhere to avoid buying pure shite unless you shell out hundreds to get an actual stitched adidas, gamble if you can even get a limited run of that jersey you want, or buy game issued or vintage. Dark days have already come for hockey fans I think it's just getting worse.

  • @tomservo9254
    @tomservo9254 10 місяців тому +160

    Wish it was more like soccer where teams can pick their own uniform suppliers. Being allowed to have an alternate uniform that didn't have to be white would be pretty great too.

    • @LSA30
      @LSA30 10 місяців тому +13

      1) In the 90's teams had multiple options for their jersey manufacturer. CCM, Pro Player, Starter and Nike (I may be forgetting someone). The on-ice quality was said to be somewhat uneven between these brands, which is why CCM was chosen to make all uniforms during the late 90's/eary 00's.
      2) Between 1970 and 2003 NHL teams wore light at home, and some teams chose to wear other than white. Notably the Canucks and Golden Seals wore gold for a few years.

    • @TheSportsBoffin
      @TheSportsBoffin 10 місяців тому +16

      Got some bad news for you buddy Fanatics has agreements in place over here in Europe to manafactuer jerseys under licence just like the MLB and has done since around 2017....Aston Villa and Newcastle Utd have had issues with their On-Field product....Castore design them Fanatics make them...Same issues for Sydney Roosters in NRL/NRLW down in Australia.

    • @tomservo9254
      @tomservo9254 10 місяців тому +4

      @@LSA30 I know they flipped the home/away whites, I mean having it so that a team like the Canucks have a blue home and maybe a green alternate that they wear if the away team's primary colour is also blue.

    • @JBTriple8
      @JBTriple8 10 місяців тому

      I like unifromity within the sport

    • @williamford9564
      @williamford9564 10 місяців тому +2

      Eventually that will change. MLS will sell out to get the rights fees from Fanatics.

  • @awildermode
    @awildermode 10 місяців тому +171

    $50-60 for a T-shirt? You used to be able to buy a good CCM replica jersey for $60.

    • @tripsaplenty1227
      @tripsaplenty1227 10 місяців тому +13

      Back in my day a dime bag cost a dime

    • @karimkassam6874
      @karimkassam6874 10 місяців тому +8

      "Yo, that's 50 dollars for a t-shirt"

    • @5purplecups
      @5purplecups 10 місяців тому

      @@tripsaplenty1227back in 95 it was 95 cents- Gucci

  • @bradgavel9991
    @bradgavel9991 10 місяців тому +83

    Fanatics has basically ruined the jersey industry, they've begun their destruction of the sportscard industry...everything they get involved in has turned to crap...why should we expect anything different from them?! Maybe if they didn't hike the prices of every single thing they get into, people maybhave a different opinion of them, but the proof is in the pricing.

    • @goalski134
      @goalski134 7 місяців тому

      this, this and this. across the board, they are the worst thing to happen to sports merchandise.

  • @igolffff
    @igolffff 10 місяців тому +205

    Devils Stadium jerseys are $500 USD. We're all doomed.

    • @choppergunner8650
      @choppergunner8650 10 місяців тому +8

      Bro wtf 💀

    • @shawklan27
      @shawklan27 10 місяців тому +24

      ​ @choppergunner8650 fucking flippers bought out all of the most popular sizes and sell them for double the price. Same despicable shit is happening with the rangers stadium series, it's obsurdoooo

    • @choppergunner8650
      @choppergunner8650 10 місяців тому

      @@shawklan27 man, fuck fanatics

    • @HarrisonHollers
      @HarrisonHollers 10 місяців тому

      That’s the only option? Isn’t this the last year of Adidas?

    • @jma.87
      @jma.87 10 місяців тому +9

      I was lucky enough to snag a blank and a Hischier Adidas SS during their brief windows of availability. Those resellers make me sick. Adidas dropped the ball, and they're taking full advantage.

  • @BvG_Venom
    @BvG_Venom 10 місяців тому +79

    In the future will it be easy to spot knockoffs because the quality is too good?

    • @cubanodsgn
      @cubanodsgn 10 місяців тому +22

      Lol..."look at that guy's knock off with all his embroidered patches and stitched nameplates and numbers, nothing like my authentic heat pressed logo"

  • @DigitalAshes
    @DigitalAshes 10 місяців тому +45

    thank you for talking about this Shannon, nothing good happens when an industry monopolizes!

  • @natemiller6802
    @natemiller6802 10 місяців тому +47

    I miss when Majestic was making MLB jerseys, they had quality authentic jerseys and locally made in the Lehigh Valley

    • @scotthouston6621
      @scotthouston6621 10 місяців тому +2

      The Nike Authentics are still made at the same plant in PA. It's just owned by Fanatics.

    • @Hakuna65Matata
      @Hakuna65Matata 10 місяців тому +1

      @@scotthouston6621 correct. All players jerseys are still being made by the Easton plant. The Replicas that come in are imported now. They only will heat press the name and number on the Replicas. The Authentics are still stitched. Its the only unionized building of Fanatics thanks to the MLBPA.

    • @jaerockchalk3216
      @jaerockchalk3216 10 місяців тому +1

      yeah Majestic ones are amazing , i have a Rickey Henderson 93 World Series Cooperstown edition Blue Jays Uni from 1993 its still immaculate condition

  • @AdamLaMore
    @AdamLaMore 10 місяців тому +43

    On the topic of chain-stitching, the Cardinals logo is chain-stitched. One of the changes that Fanatics did was to chain-stitch onto a patch (technically two, one for each side) and then just sew the patch on the jersey, where previous manufacturers would stitch directly onto the jersey. Definitely has a different effect. One of the other big changes in MLB was to shrink the player names, which obviously the players don't like and is one of the big things making them feel like replicas or knockoffs.

    • @scotthouston6621
      @scotthouston6621 10 місяців тому

      There shouldn't be player names on jerseys. You should know the player by their number.

    • @Derberbeve
      @Derberbeve 9 місяців тому

      @@scotthouston6621lol wut

  • @saturnotaku
    @saturnotaku 10 місяців тому +37

    My dad won an authentic Chicago Blackhawks Reebok jersey off a scratch-and-win lottery ticket back in the day, and it is absolutely gorgeous. The only Fanatics jersey I had was of the Golden Knights from their inaugural year. I rarely wore it until recently when I changed it out for an Adidas one.

  • @JonathanNation
    @JonathanNation 10 місяців тому +120

    I am planning on getting every jersey I want this year before Fanatics comes out.

    • @homer1268
      @homer1268 10 місяців тому +5

      same

    • @AmokCanuck
      @AmokCanuck 10 місяців тому +9

      And not even just new ones, surely this will drive up the market of old jerseys.

    • @shawklan27
      @shawklan27 10 місяців тому +2

      I'm saving for the end of the season where the sale blowout is bound to happen

    • @heathclark318
      @heathclark318 10 місяців тому +8

      Its what I have been doing since the deal was announced. Fanatics is utter garbage

    • @JBTriple8
      @JBTriple8 10 місяців тому +1

      yep already bought a colorado avalanche third jersey there recent one

  • @mmonkeyman1403
    @mmonkeyman1403 10 місяців тому +32

    Just got a brand new red wings Koho jersey off eBay. It’s great quality, also convenient since Detroit’s uniform hasn’t changed since then.

    • @klompsauce
      @klompsauce 10 місяців тому +4

      Few weeks back I got my kid a Koho Shanahan jersey off eBay

  • @ZZSmithReal
    @ZZSmithReal 10 місяців тому +31

    Imagine being a major league baseball player making $35 million a year and not be able to get your pants customized. LOL

    • @Blingdung
      @Blingdung 9 місяців тому +1

      Each team will just hire a tailor sounds like. Definitely bullshit that the league just let fanatics and shitty quality jerseys take over. Only good thing is that 30 or so tailors will get to work for their teams which I guess is nice

  • @FutureZek
    @FutureZek 10 місяців тому +73

    Fanatics is infamous in NC for printing the Canes logo upside down.

    • @klompsauce
      @klompsauce 10 місяців тому +1

      Which jersey? Didn’t they have a jersey with a tropical storm flag instead of a hurricane flag? I want to get my hands on one of those.

    • @FutureZek
      @FutureZek 10 місяців тому +5

      @@klompsauce The "OG" logo. The stylized hurricane in red, black and white.

    • @DJVexillum
      @DJVexillum 10 місяців тому +3

      Is that why they hardly wear it on the ice anymore? Joking, joking...

    • @anthonydurante1149
      @anthonydurante1149 10 місяців тому

      ​@@klompsauceyes. The one-flag logo symbolizes a gale storm. The stacked two-flag logo symbolizes a hurricane.

  • @J_Aaron_L
    @J_Aaron_L 10 місяців тому +81

    This feels familiar to me. It's almost as if many companies are blatantly degrading the products and properties they own.

    • @dAiMYoBeAr
      @dAiMYoBeAr 10 місяців тому +13

      The quicker the product breaks, the sooner you have to repay them money

    • @poppinmycollar
      @poppinmycollar 10 місяців тому +18

      That's late stage capitalism for ya

    • @veeli1106
      @veeli1106 10 місяців тому +7

      @@poppinmycollar…when Western governments have been racking up fiscal deficit-spending since the 1960s and central banks have been on expansionary monetary policies since 1982 and you call this situation “late-stage capitalism” *facepalm*

    • @afterfractures5884
      @afterfractures5884 10 місяців тому +3

      @@veeli1106 I don't think Fanatics are cheaping out on the production costs because of the fiscal deficit spending. LOL.

    • @veeli1106
      @veeli1106 10 місяців тому +2

      @@afterfractures5884 Deficit-spending leads to currency debasement, and one way the loss of purchasing power can be felt is via lower quality standards of materials and workmanship in manufactured goods, if any manufacturing hasn’t already been offshore-ed out to a jurisdiction with lower labour costs.

  • @whheaties2360
    @whheaties2360 10 місяців тому +25

    Adidas is going to get a payday in these last few months from customers wanting to stock up on Adidas before they’re gone, I feel.

  • @Merlin_From_Shrek_3
    @Merlin_From_Shrek_3 10 місяців тому +96

    Just make the jerseys digital like the ads lmao

    • @jeffe2267
      @jeffe2267 10 місяців тому +7

      Green jerseys for everyone!

    • @JBTriple8
      @JBTriple8 10 місяців тому +5

      introducing Chroma Key Jerseys in Blue and Green

    • @originalrkmorton
      @originalrkmorton 10 місяців тому +2

      All execs agree, subscription model merch is the future

  • @roguewavecreative
    @roguewavecreative 10 місяців тому +36

    To me this is on the league owners. It’s all about money. The jerseys I have ordered on Alibaba that are knock offs are better. Still stitched. That is so weird to me but I am guessing the leagues end up with more money. To me it’s the same argument that most people detest Bettman. He is an extension of the ownes. Do you think there will ever be a league commissioner for the fans?

    • @atpyro7920
      @atpyro7920 10 місяців тому +7

      considering the commish is picked by the owners, no

    • @JBTriple8
      @JBTriple8 10 місяців тому

      @@atpyro7920 Bettman answers the owners

    • @JBTriple8
      @JBTriple8 10 місяців тому +3

      Bettman answers to owners

    • @Helvigster
      @Helvigster 10 місяців тому +3

      only way there will ever be a commissioner for the fans is if the NHL adopts the MLS structure where the league owns the teams and not vice versa
      since that'll never happen, no. we're all screwed.

    • @bagofholding
      @bagofholding 10 місяців тому +1

      What are they supposed to do when no other company even offered to do it?

  • @JoeMagician
    @JoeMagician 10 місяців тому +7

    CCM jerseys are by far the best, I had old CCM jerseys I bought second hand from the 80's and 90's and they're in better shape and more comfortable than a modern Fanatics jersey. Even gotten them customized they hold up really well. I suspect that Fanatics had embraced the idea of forced obsolescence in their products. It's not a problem for them that their products fall apart after a few years, it means you have to buy a new one. And if you're unhappy, well where else are you gonna go? I'm a big fan of collecting hockey jerseys, and fanatics picking up the contract probably means the end of me buying new ones. Unless they keep the on ice products in the same factories, but even those have shot through the roof. Just a couple years ago you could get a blank pro version of a jersey for $200-$300. Now they're not only not available, but even team issued unused jerseys have gone through the roof from the teams and resellers. It's a hobby that will die very quickly.

  • @James_Ford4815
    @James_Ford4815 10 місяців тому +15

    im at spring training now and have seen mlb jerseys up close ... they look like a mixture between a tshirt and a real mlb jersey , they're just very thin looking , how they sit on the body and flow reminds me a little of those cuban or hawaiian shirts ... so yes i would say they look more on the cheap knock off side vs what i saw from last years spring training

    • @nickh3698
      @nickh3698 10 місяців тому +2

      So basically a shirsey

  • @brettrossi034
    @brettrossi034 10 місяців тому +10

    All of my New Jersey Devils jerseys i own are CCM and i own 2 Reebok jerseys. I love the quality of the jerseys from CCM plus the stitching and comfort ot them. Those are all still in quality shape after all these years.

    • @jma.87
      @jma.87 10 місяців тому

      Some ppl will point out the air knit material snags easily. But I generally agree with you. I baby mine and they're in great shape lol.
      I do have the adidas climalite and prime green indos too, but I love my MiC CCMs more

  • @gvalo
    @gvalo 10 місяців тому +12

    I can tell you as a Blackhawks fan, if the chain stitching goes away, it's a guarantee that I'll never buy a jersey until the end of the fanatics contract.
    For Christmas this year, I bought a fanatics away jersey from the Blackhawks Store to have customized as Griswold jersey. I wore it out ONCE and the shoulder patches peeled off. Luckily the store offered to pay for me to ship it back to them, then they took it to the official on-ice lettering company for the hawks and they stitched everything down.
    Edit to add: Jaime Faulkner, the President of Business Ops for the hawks, was on a few podcasts last summer/during the start of the season talking about seeing the Fanatics jerseys and their equipment staff putting the samples through their tests. She seemed like they were happy with them but she's also trying to get fans to still buy the jersey (Hence the return of the 90s black thirds)

  • @kleddit6400
    @kleddit6400 10 місяців тому +16

    “Fanatics Sports betting while you’re wearing your Fanatics jersey”💀😂

    • @JonathanGaeta
      @JonathanGaeta 10 місяців тому

      We’re not far from Fanatics getting into sports betting

  • @heyhosayso
    @heyhosayso 10 місяців тому +6

    As a European mostly watching sport there I think the problem is that there is only one supplier per league. In Europe each team makes an agreement with an manufacturer. So there is real competition. We get annual new creative jerseys here. And it not like 250US because thats nuts. But ik it's a completely different market over there. So I wish you guys the best.

    • @mundanemorselsmundanemorse7028
      @mundanemorselsmundanemorse7028 9 місяців тому +2

      Yeah sadly that’s our business model for so many things these days. Even sports games have become 1 developer per sport. No more competition for any sport.

    • @goalski134
      @goalski134 7 місяців тому

      the jerseys in US sports have to be worn for multiple seasons, whereas in football they have three jerseys every single season. cheaper jerseys but still gross exploitation. also, fanatics are coming for football too. man united site is “powered by fanatics,” and i’m sure it’s not the only one.

  • @jeffreytoman8351
    @jeffreytoman8351 10 місяців тому +1

    Shannon, thank you. I’ve been shouting your original fanatics video to a bunch of my friends and left it in a few you tube comments.

  • @eyekantspele
    @eyekantspele 10 місяців тому +8

    Hey Shannon, would love to see a room tour video!

  • @thefloridacrackerwhip
    @thefloridacrackerwhip 10 місяців тому +3

    In all honesty, what the NHL needs to do is bring the manufacture of the jersey in house, integrate it and streamline it within the league. Go get/lease a couple of factories in Canada and/or Mexico, control production and sell them to get 100% of the profits from jersey sales without the limitations of the third party supplier. Have adidas or Nike design them if they’d like or better yet the teams themselves and problem solved. I have an early Adidas Lightning sweater and a newer Adidas and the older one feels of better quality than the newer one albeit both are great quality. Fanatics is going to teach a lesson to leagues that, as we say in Spanish translated, “what is cheap in costs now, will be more expensive than you ever bargained for later.”

  • @DDVargas1983
    @DDVargas1983 10 місяців тому +4

    I bought a Knock-off Kershaw jersey about six years ago and it's outlasted every Fanatics jersey since. Best 40 bucks I've spent. I'm holding on to my Adidas Ducks jersey like gold.

  • @ears9115
    @ears9115 10 місяців тому +3

    I have one Detroit Tigers fanatics shirt and haven’t bought anything from them since. All my Red Wings stuff is from 47 or American Needle.
    I have an old CCM jersey, 1997 Sergei Fedorov and a Nike Fedorov, two relatives had the same idea! I’ve never washed em and only worn to games couple cause worries about messing em up. Got as a kid, was giant then so still fit!

  • @bertoneill2488
    @bertoneill2488 10 місяців тому +12

    I am gonna miss the New Era Hats.

    • @standardv
      @standardv 10 місяців тому

      Wait what? I have not heard that New Era will stop producing hats for MLB teams. That cannot be true.

    • @bertoneill2488
      @bertoneill2488 10 місяців тому

      I mean this is a Hockey Channel. I was talking about the New Era NHL hats. Unless the Sabres are the only ones who get them cause New Era is a Buffalo company.@@standardv

  • @ianhall6614
    @ianhall6614 10 місяців тому +9

    Cue the Ralph Wiggum “I’m in danger”

  • @tbell61
    @tbell61 10 місяців тому +1

    Shannon, thanks for doing this video. I was interested in your take on this subject, and you did not disappoint.

  • @InchonDM
    @InchonDM 10 місяців тому +2

    For those who don't follow baseball regularly, we've had more updates as spring training starts to approach. We've now seen the uniform pants as well, and it's ABSOLUTELY UNBELIEVABLE. The pants are _translucent!_ They're so thin you can see through them, and furthermore, they're almost universally too tight! It looks like the players are wearing uniform-colored _pantyhose_ out onto the field, and there's already a bunch of shots of players with, uh, _unfortunate elements_ on display underneath. It's completely insane.

    • @drengillespie
      @drengillespie 10 місяців тому

      It brought back memories of the white scrub pants from school.

  • @2muchcream782
    @2muchcream782 10 місяців тому +1

    I'm a store manager at Lids. Fanatics is the worst quality product I have ever seen being sold on a retail level. We have product that has only spent time on shelves look like they've been worn for years. The new NHL Blue Line jerseys from Mitchel and Ness feel cheap and will rip like paper. A few weeks ago we recieved the new MLB jerseys and they looked and felt like a fanatics jersey. the quality is worse than the ones from previous seasons and are $50 more expensive.
    We are selling blank MLB jerseys for the same price as a blank Adidas NHL jerseys. Fanatics is the worst thing to happen to sports merchandise and I'm not exaggerating. I feel guilty selling Fanatics products to customers but I have to because it's my job.

  • @jaredmorrison9511
    @jaredmorrison9511 10 місяців тому +4

    I quite like that Jets jersey from a looks standpoint at least.

  • @xPandaZ4
    @xPandaZ4 10 місяців тому +3

    Ive ordered a few jerseys off of DHgate. The quality is streets ahead of anything ive ever seen fanatics produce, and its a 1/4 of the price.

  • @TheSportsBoffin
    @TheSportsBoffin 10 місяців тому +1

    I look on the NHL website over here in the UK and it is very noticeable that there is very limited Adidas stock left. As a result an Adidas Kochina is £250/300 for example. But even though they are pretty expensive you know they are a Quality product. Even the unpoplular Grey Jets Reverse Retro is around £200. Then you have the Fanatics jerseys.......£150 for something that will fall apart in a few weeks which is already very hard to replace just is not worth it. This is why I am glad i have my Reebok Jets Authentic and my Jagr CCM Capitals Authentic. For those saying that they wish the NHL was like European Football/Soccer where the teams have agreements with different manafacturers sadly Fanatics has also got agreements to make merchandise under licence just like MLB.

  • @strungoutkid
    @strungoutkid 10 місяців тому +9

    Fanatics to me, is like the time I bought a "Blinks182" shirt outside a venue once.

    • @LSA30
      @LSA30 10 місяців тому +2

      Like buying a Sorny TV😂

    • @choppergunner8650
      @choppergunner8650 10 місяців тому +3

      ​@@LSA30 or those fake Adidas hoodies with 4 stripes

    • @strungoutkid
      @strungoutkid 10 місяців тому +2

      @@LSA30 classic Simpsons episode!

  • @fuuzzzy
    @fuuzzzy 10 місяців тому +8

    That’s why I’m getting the jerseys I want now

  • @eli2568
    @eli2568 10 місяців тому +3

    Had no idea no one else made a bid. That's crazy. Yes affirmed concern about fanatics. Have no plans to get at this point. I was bummed Adidas didn't want to again

  • @ShadowWalker-ng1it
    @ShadowWalker-ng1it 10 місяців тому +2

    Had a habs caps for a summer washed it maybe twice and yet even after only that I had the metal wiring sticking into my head when I was wearing it.

  • @shrimpanzee8510
    @shrimpanzee8510 10 місяців тому +3

    Needed to stay with Reebok, man even the Reebok edge hockey socks were good

  • @woodsie22
    @woodsie22 10 місяців тому +3

    Oh, I got a preview of how low quality they can go. Last night, I went to the Blues game, and they had a new product - a Mitchell & Ness (but really Fanatics) “vintage” clown Brett Hull clown jersey, selling for $200. I wouldn’t wear the thing if it was free.
    The blue was closer to the unfortunate choice in the 90s than the new adidas ones, but the shoulder AND the main logo both were the cheap screen printed iron on looking ones. The stripes were also wrong, and had someone been walking around wearing that jersey, I would have assumed it was a knockoff or a particularly poorly made giveaway.

  • @dvizual
    @dvizual 10 місяців тому +1

    I have a KOHO and a bunch of CMM jerseys, they’re just incredible, they hold up so well. Even the Reeboks

  • @bdonaghu
    @bdonaghu 10 місяців тому +7

    I'm just glad I already have enough Sabres jerseys to satisfy my wants. I have a Buffaslug (Reebok), Goathead (CCM), Winter Classic (Fanatics), and the 50th anniversary, Navy Blue home, and Royal Blue home all from Adidas.

    • @DJVexillum
      @DJVexillum 10 місяців тому +1

      Yep, I made sure this season to pick up a Home, Goathead, and Heritage Classic from last year while they're still Adidas available.

    • @JBTriple8
      @JBTriple8 10 місяців тому +1

      ordered the Avalanche adidas Blue 3rd yep thats gonna be last one for a while

    • @SPACE-g9u
      @SPACE-g9u 10 місяців тому

      I want a ovechkin and mcdavid adidas before they go out of business:/

  • @AnimalClans
    @AnimalClans 10 місяців тому

    I saw on Twitter where someone placed a bet on an over for yards by a player. The player got over, then lost yards on a play, putting them under. Fanatics called it as under, guy lost the bet. Game wasn't over, player eventually finished on the over.

  • @e-c-dia
    @e-c-dia 10 місяців тому

    Was waiting to hear you discuss this :o

  • @HarrisonHollers
    @HarrisonHollers 10 місяців тому +7

    Michael Rubin, what did you do?!

  • @Rockin_Ross
    @Rockin_Ross 5 місяців тому +1

    I promise you, if you hear me say “This is fine”, regarding the new NHL jerseys, I’m surrounded by flames.
    My collecting has officially stopped due to sublimation and $400 price tag. And you know what…I’m ok with it.
    The Phillies’ front crest was chain stitched as well (like the Cardinals) and now that’s gone.
    Fanatics ain’t making fans doing this, but it’s clear they don’t care.
    Sad.

  • @Jimmy-Mc
    @Jimmy-Mc 10 місяців тому +5

    At least my Adidas and CCM jerseys will go up in value.

  • @Gallalad1
    @Gallalad1 10 місяців тому +1

    I wish CCM or O’Neills (in Ireland) had taken over, their quality is at least there and they’re still somewhat affordable

  • @rickster_88
    @rickster_88 10 місяців тому +2

    I'm not a Jets fan, but that indigenous jersey is nice!

  • @eml5086
    @eml5086 10 місяців тому +9

    I know neighbors who go to Pittsburgh Penguin games, who (for 2 people) spend $500 for game tickets, pay $50-60 to park their car for 3 hours, wear team jerseys that cost $250 per, spend $50-100 for "snacks and beer" at the game... then tell me the economy sucks and they're living paycheck-to-paycheck. Such is our world. I watch the game on TV. BUT... I can see the day coming when we'll be in a pay-per-view situation for ALL sports, ALL games, not just the big games. (Peacock + and the NFL / Steelers this season)

    • @chrisbelos2834
      @chrisbelos2834 10 місяців тому +1

      there's no such things like free NHL games on TV anymore since the early 2010s. it's all cable TV. and for the habs games in Montreal, you have to pay 3 different channels to get all the games otherwise you will miss some of them

    • @eml5086
      @eml5086 10 місяців тому

      I guess I'm fortunate in that regard. I subscribe to DirectTV Stream and watch the Pens on SportsNet Pittsburgh - it's one of the stations in the package I get. Yes, I'm still paying to watch the games, but at least I don't need to pay for multiple channels. I think there are over 150 channels to watch on the DirecTV package. I watch 3 or 4 at the most. The rest is... well... unwatchable.
      Go Pens. Go Habs. God bless Canada.
      @@chrisbelos2834

  • @2nddimension334
    @2nddimension334 10 місяців тому +1

    Excellent choice of jersey for an important video!

  • @HarrisonHollers
    @HarrisonHollers 10 місяців тому +2

    Fans should rally together and make bootleg jerseys with fugazi knockoff logos that legally pass any restriction. WHO’S COMING WITH ME?!

  • @VexJinks
    @VexJinks 10 місяців тому +7

    I'm getting all the Adidas jerseys I can before Fanatics takes over. I've got no faith in Fanatics quality.

    • @JBTriple8
      @JBTriple8 10 місяців тому

      same I as well

  • @josh1mark
    @josh1mark 10 місяців тому +1

    Yes

  • @girthbrookes1673
    @girthbrookes1673 10 місяців тому +11

    I bought one bills jersey from them never ever again.
    Same price or even more than what i paid for authentic good jerseys and its crap.
    Nothing is stitched, everything was heated or glued.
    Terrible product terrible company

  • @jordanwolfcastle7387
    @jordanwolfcastle7387 10 місяців тому +1

    This is simple. Make them cheaper and sell them for more money

  • @brianwalsh4077
    @brianwalsh4077 10 місяців тому +2

    Sadly I think we're going to "accept it" since it will be the only ones available to us, apart from knock-off sites.. Unless MLB/NHL/ steps up to Fanatics to demand better quality but since they were the only bidders for NHL there's not much to do here....

    • @JBTriple8
      @JBTriple8 10 місяців тому

      there has to be a loophole to drop out of the contract curious why CCM didnt bid

  • @wtfminny
    @wtfminny 10 місяців тому +1

    DH is the best. Chinese replica sweaters that are better made than fanatics and 80% less expensive.

  • @aprev039
    @aprev039 10 місяців тому

    The Fanatics partnership is the perfect summary of our current market trend: all products are expensive to buy and are cheaply made. We used to have tiered products where depending on your budget you could go for better quality for a higher price and vice versa. That doesn’t exist anymore.

  • @SantaDog81
    @SantaDog81 10 місяців тому +1

    Love my CCM AHL jersey.

  • @georgenoriegajr
    @georgenoriegajr 10 місяців тому

    (1) The Nike Vapor Elite i.e. the "on-field authentics" do still have tackle twill wordmarks, names and numbers that are stitched onto the jersey. The only change for this year is that patches that were once embroidered (like the Mets skyline sleeve patch and the Dodgers "LA" sleeve patch) are now printed instead of embroidered, although the outer layer is still stitched onto the jersey.
    (2) It's 50/50 as to whether the Blackhawks' logo will be chain-stitched; the St. Louis Cardinals' front wordmark is still chain-stitched, although unlike pre-2024 when it was directly chain-stitched onto the JERSEY, it is now chain-stitched onto a separate PATCH which is then stitched onto the jersey.
    Unfortunately, the Philadelphia Phillies, who pre-2024 also had a chain-stitched wordmark on their jerseys, now have a plain tackle twill logo stitched on the front.
    So if the Blackhawks DO continue with chain-stitched logos, it will most likely be on a separate patch and sewn onto the jersey, which obviously is not as nice as stitching it directly onto the jersey.

  • @afterfractures5884
    @afterfractures5884 10 місяців тому +2

    This is the inevitable result of the original fanatics contract. There was never going to be any other outcome with Fanatics owning the rights to the more profitable replica jerseys. That's why Adidas released "pro" replicas instead of the on-ice jerseys. They were trying to compete in the replica market, and it only worked because Fanatics' jerseys are terrible quality. People were happy to pay more to avoid fanatics. Needless to say, Fanatics weren't too happy with that.
    They had to unify the replicas and on-ice jerseys under one brand... it's just upsetting that Fanatics ended up being that brand. It is a bush-league company, and I will never support them. I will be picking up an Adidas Stutzle away jersey. I bought a used CCM Alfredsson jersey and managed to find a new pro Reebok Karlsson jersey for like 40$.

  • @markschlageter3976
    @markschlageter3976 10 місяців тому

    Seems to be the ongoing situation everywhere: it costs more, you get less and its lower quality. What a time to be alive.

  • @jordandupre5726
    @jordandupre5726 10 місяців тому +2

    Once I started buying from DHgate, I never went back. Why should I fork over $200 for a jersey when I can get five knock off jerseys of similar quality for less money.

    • @jordandupre5726
      @jordandupre5726 10 місяців тому +1

      I have a Ja Morant jersey from DHgate that looks 100% real. Nobody can tell the difference that’s how bad sports jerseys have become.

  • @joeleonardqv
    @joeleonardqv 10 місяців тому

    You pretty much nailed every point on the head. I have never liked the garbage products they make. Cheap, I'll fitting knock grade garbage. You are absolutely right about not caring about buying from Chinese knock off sites. It's also an issue where they can't deliver for special events like the Super Bowl or the Stadium Series. Don't even get me started on the design of the Isles SS jersey. I'm not sure who is exactly involved, but I will spare you my expletive laden opinion on laziness and the ridiculous "plimsole" explanation. They worked harder on contriving an excuse than on design. All in all, I'm done with fan swag as long as Fanatics is involved. My only Fanatics hat is ill fitting and cheap as you describe. Won't waste another dime on it. Vintage swag is really the only way to go anymore. And as an Isles fan, there has not been a decent third jersey since the SS14. The MLB jerseys look awful but I'll never buy one anyway. I'm sure they will make their money hand over fist from all the lemmings who have no concept of value or money.

  • @FutureZek
    @FutureZek 10 місяців тому +3

    Nice Jason Mendoza reference!

  • @W31rdG
    @W31rdG 10 місяців тому

    I haven't bought a hat I liked ever since Old Time Hockey was bought out. They made the best flexfit hats around and now most companies only release hats with straps. I'm still rocking a mid-2000s Oilers hat and a 2011 Bruins hat made by OTH.

  • @johntowers
    @johntowers 10 місяців тому +1

    Buying my next Jersey on DH for sure

  • @ultycs
    @ultycs 10 місяців тому +2

    Fanatics has ruined sports merchandise. I sadly purchased some NFL jerseys and they are the cheapest junk I’ve ever seen. It’s disgusting what fanatics and Michael Rubin is doing. The fit is awful on their jerseys. It’s all about money since Rubin is buddy-buddy with the commissioners of major sports leagues. Boycott this garbage !

  • @primecrusader-q7k
    @primecrusader-q7k 10 місяців тому

    I wonder about pricing/sales going forward. It never seems like Fanatics jerseys go below the sales they already set (a player jersey below $130 for example or a retired style blank jersey for under $100), but Adidas jerseys you can find for all kinds of prices, often cheaper than Fanatics.

  • @patanasoff7
    @patanasoff7 10 місяців тому +2

    Fanatics sucks. I hope the NHL doesn't allow low-quality jerseys, and I hope behind closed doors, the NHL has told Fanatics their requirements for making their jerseys. I've never dried my jerseys in the dryer. The NHL should make it more lucrative for manufacturers like Adidas and CCM so they can make the jerseys for the NHL.

  • @acerock013
    @acerock013 10 місяців тому +1

    not shocking in the slightest. everyone knew that when Fanatics was brought in that cheap materials, bad design and overpriced goods were what we were looking at.

  • @BayAreaThrowbacks
    @BayAreaThrowbacks 10 місяців тому +1

    It’s really sad. These jerseys the MLB players are wearing literally look like fake $50 jerseys you get from the flea market….

  • @nonspicymemes5753
    @nonspicymemes5753 10 місяців тому +1

    It’s a shame because Adidas makes some really nice hockey jerseys

  • @bgrace94
    @bgrace94 10 місяців тому +2

    Fanatics will be the official betting sportsbook for my canes.
    *sigh*

  • @bobtiki9767
    @bobtiki9767 10 місяців тому

    The chain hand stitching is the only reason i purchased an authentic sweater a a Hawk fan

  • @calgore21
    @calgore21 10 місяців тому +1

    The quality of my knock-off Colorado "Nordiques" Reverse Retro I got shipped from China is miles ahead of my Fanatics Sabres jersey. The Sabres jersey I wore maybe twice and is already a bubbly mess.

  • @mattcampbell8939
    @mattcampbell8939 10 місяців тому +1

    something has been bugging me. I cant remember the name of the channel of the older guy who kinda copies the THG setup. Does anybody know who I'm talking about?

  • @audiothesoviet
    @audiothesoviet 10 місяців тому +1

    I got a Red Wings Larkin jersey a few years ago using some gifts cards I had, and I almost never wear it. I just don't like the way the jersey feels, it feels a little too snug, and the fabric doesn't feel as good to me as the Reeboks did. I also *hate* the logo, which ain't even stitched on and my NHL logo at the neck is peeling off too

  • @ScottStahler-eu1tg
    @ScottStahler-eu1tg 10 місяців тому +2

    I bought Hockey Jerseys from Fanatics, but My Adidas Jerseys are way Better. Now they are Authentic, but The Price $$$$ is only like a $60.00 difference!!!! I'm very Worried about the Quality for The Fans & Especially for The Players On The Ice!!!!!?????

  • @jlo2o199
    @jlo2o199 10 місяців тому +2

    Vintage jerseys from eBay all the way!

  • @therush757
    @therush757 8 місяців тому

    Wish teams had individual deals with manufacturers, like when Detroit had Nike in the 90’s.

  • @xxzildjianxx
    @xxzildjianxx 10 місяців тому +3

    Icethetics get in here!

  • @Scoots_McGee
    @Scoots_McGee 10 місяців тому

    I love that jets jersey, love the Metis inspiration

  • @mattlovespeebee
    @mattlovespeebee 10 місяців тому +3

    One that you didn’t mention was that Fanatics is the supplier for all WWE merchandise too.

    • @cams1552
      @cams1552 10 місяців тому +2

      He was only referring to sports

    • @avery.a5948
      @avery.a5948 10 місяців тому

      Referring to sports not drama

  • @JustinWillhoit
    @JustinWillhoit 10 місяців тому

    Also I'll say that I generally like Fanatics quality when it comes to hoodies or shirts (a little less so). I have the Stanley Cup Final jersey of Dallas with the nice chrome patch and I actually really like it

  • @zmanjace1364
    @zmanjace1364 10 місяців тому +1

    The hats are SOOO mediocre. My parents got a Blue Jackets hat for me when they first started from CCM. Still the only Blue Jackets hat I own bc the new ones are terrible. Luck for me, Civil War reenactment hats are actually cheaper than the NHL branded ones so I can just get one of those and slap a pin on it and im good to go.

  • @defaultuser1447
    @defaultuser1447 10 місяців тому +1

    TEG is in the next room, muttering, "MLB? Stay in your lane bro!"

  • @Mil_Buri
    @Mil_Buri 10 місяців тому

    Hopefully they make the ads on the jerseys look nice, especially since there will likely be more added in the future.

  • @dsc4178
    @dsc4178 10 місяців тому +2

    My youngest daughter wears my Leaf jersey that I got gifted in ....1974.

  • @nomad2753
    @nomad2753 10 місяців тому

    I have one Fanatics jersey, purchased only because it was impossible to find a genuine in my size. The quality of the material and logos are definitely subpar and the colors are a bit off. I did send it elsewhere for proper customization which does help the overall look. If this is what we're going be seeing from Fanatics going forward I'll be looking for alternative sources.

  • @mobmaniac
    @mobmaniac 10 місяців тому

    I have never bought merch from Fanatics and had it consistently sized. Typically, if the clothing is from a secondary brand it fits fine, but their own products are either a size too small or a size too big

  • @austinsannoyinggames7017
    @austinsannoyinggames7017 10 місяців тому

    Just finished the good place this morning, great show, great ending.

  • @superadam2112
    @superadam2112 10 місяців тому

    I’ve seen a couple Fanatics x Adidas in Calgary & Edmonton. They seem decent.
    Getting rid of the chain stitching on the Chicago ones are absolutely sacrilegious.
    The MLB Fanatics jerseys look like the ones that Great Britain got in the World Baseball Classic

  • @jamthefed
    @jamthefed 10 місяців тому +1

    IIRC did the NHL say that the game worn jerseys would still be manufactured at the current factory in Quebec. Of course Fanatics can still just get the factory to make it with substandard material and methods.

  • @bigdaddytrips6197
    @bigdaddytrips6197 10 місяців тому +1

    Oh topic here , is espn + good for watching hockey or waste of money. Im an oilers fan from California.

    • @TheHockeyGuy
      @TheHockeyGuy  10 місяців тому

      Can't help you there, we have different options in Canada. You could ask people on the discord though.