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Job Sikhala, Zimbabwean Opposition Politician In Conversation With Trevor Part 2
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- Опубліковано 16 сер 2024
- In this second episode, Trevor and Job Sikhala, Zimbabwean Opposition Politician discuss some of the worries he had during incarceration, reflections and his political ambitions going forward. They also discuss Job's opinion on strategic ambiguity by the Citizens Coalition For Change , mistakes made by the opposition for the past three decades, the role of the National Democratic Taskforce and many more...
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Seconded I will definitely be a passionate member of a National Democratic Task Force, Long story short what Job is saying is simply let us unite as Zimbabweans, work towards a common goal that way winning is guaranteed no 2 ways about that .....what have been killing us along is these divisions, power hungry leaders who believes in individualism more than collective efforts, I like the idea of servant leaders that’s on point
Thank you so much Trevor for the powerful interview
Trevor there put a very good question to Sikhala about all political leaders owning up to their mistakes. Sikhala's answer is the ROOTS OF ALL PROBLEMS in Zim politics. Zim politicians are afraid to admit their mistakes. Not only that they think that their positions are a lifetime right! Is that not zanupoof mentality. The opposition must 1st impose term limits for the party leader, MPs, Councillors, Mayors, etc from their own party. That's how change comes. The other major endeavour would be to educate the electorate at grassroots level so they learn to demand accountability and tangible performance from their leaders at all levels. Only after such changes will change start happening in Zim.
Agree 💯% with you, MPs, Senators
Councillors must have two teams(5 years),, must be accountable and responsible.
No criminal records,we are going noway with these double minded politicians
Job must be given a chance. I like how he came across in this interview, sober-minded and unbroken in spite of his persecutions. He is more of an activist than a lawyer. We needs more Job Sikhalas in Zim politics atm. God bless you, Job!
As long as he is against Chamisa kwete
Unlike the others who have become fashion designers. He needs to be given chance at least he has balls to face Zanupf
He does but politics doesn't work that way politics is just a popularity contest
Because if you look at it you could be munhu ane all the academic qualifications, experience yakawandisa but it's just a popularity contest if politics was based on merit people like the mtn guy would be minister of ict
Giving him a chance to do what?
I feel he is one of the best, committed activist God has given us but for anything other than that may water down his God given assignment.
Watching this discussion, it's as if we are still in the pre-independance erra. Very true, let the people decide collectively, without politicians interfering. Zvinorwadza 😢! Partisan politics has failed us. We should now run our country as a cooperation, where if the CEO messes up, we fire him.
The explanation makes me feel that Zimbabwe is very far from achieving any meaningful change that will benefit the masses
Job need serious counselling, he has gone through a lot and he need to process everything in a professional environment. I'm sending peace to him and his family ❤
True. I could not hold back my tears as he sobbed.
@@shepherddhlamini2310 how exactly do you "send peace" to someone?
My leader Wiwa, join Chamisa and bring change . At any given time in every country there is always one person loved by people , and that person needs supportive people around him, Mugabe, Nkomo, Tsvangirai and now Chamisa , these have natural connections with people . Thats why we still talk about Solomon Mujuru . Your proposal to consult was done already by NC so we need to move forward, citizens have already conveyed what they want , all we need is to put it into action now , Zimbabweans are ready for change
That’s true. Otherwise on his own he is nothing. The masses are with Chamisa
You speak nonsense what has Chamisa to do with this ....
@@monnietaah9583nonsense we are not part of your messes
No1 is barred from this movement, why joining Chamisa that’s not part of the idea the guy is talking sense ,he is simply talking about collective efforts
@@malvinmurindi2134that was done already right ? So why repeating a process yakaitwa ?
Thanks Job for your intelligence to refuse to be cornered to speak against Mr Chamisa. Apparently, mukoma Trevor appear to have his own personal vendetta with Mr Chamisa. He mentioned that he was aligned to mukoma Simba and Nkosana and this is for obvious reason. Inspite of this Mukoma Trevor is a very good interviewer. I like his probing, paraphrasing and management of emotions.
Your mentality is the real reason why we have been under oppression for 44years. Why mustn't Chamisa be criticised? Has he not made huge mistakes which cost us our freedom? Why must a leader be worshipped? Sikhala's solution of going back to the people to ask solves nothing because the Zim electorate is gullible, politically illiterate and immature. The majority have zanupoof mentality - support, support and support a leader!! Why? What has that leader done to bring about change? Why does that leader spend most of his energy fighting other opposition leaders instead of bringing about unity? Why is it when Sikhala, or Ncube, or Biti or Khupe, etc contest for the position of party leader they are labelled POWER HUNGRY SELLOUTS yet when it's Chamisa doing the same it's ok???
From Student Activism up to now he is still a fighter!
He still acts like a student activist you mean? He still has no idea what he's fighting for.
Job handled the interviewer with caution. Have a feeling the interviewer wanted Sikhala to go hard & castigate Chamisa.
Absolutely.Trevor wants Chamisa to step aside and make way for his "third way"
I didn't want to comment but I think I have to. When he says, we need to consult people first, I think he is trying to say a popular statement but it is miles away from reality.
People follow a visionary. Do people chose a visionary?
There is issue has always been people who have branded themselves as visionaries yet they are opportunity seekers.
The masses follow a visionary not become the visionaries of a vision.
Zimbabwe needs a true, honest and resolute visionary.
Like Chamisa
@@Mashinge I don't think Chamisa is a visionary but just a populist.
1.He is not genuine
2. He is religious and not spiritual
3. He is selfish
4. He is cunning
5. Believes in divide and rule
6. He is an exaggerator(simba rakawandira pamuromo sepinjisi) to an extent of providing false hope.
Really 😂
thank you so much for this sober opinion
Mupeyi chance .The people have spoken kani.
If someone says switch off the camera, why not just respect them,. 😮
ambouyira chii ku interview iye achiziva kt kune camera
His wishes must be respected
Im thoughts as well!
Maybe he was not talking about the camera,it could have been the light.Besides you don't know how many cameras are there.
@@tamirirashemushayavanhu525 yeah but maybe anenge asingafunge kuti he'll break down
Cause for Hope!! Bless you Job Sikhala and thank you Trevor.
Wiwa is onto something here. He in my ears advocates for the end of personal cultism which is rife in African politics. I like his idea of a national consultative process through a national democratic taskforce.
Sikhala & Chamisa is a good tag team
its emotional , long live Job Sikhala. a fighter for freedom
Job's words do not just impress upon the senses, they affect the heart. True leader!
I think the current squabbles are amongst the leaders. The people on the ground are united, I say so because the policy of strategic ambiguity denied ZANUPF two thirds majority. Problem seems like this policy had not been agreed to by the leadership.
The root problem of Zimbabwe politics is the army. ZANU is an extension of ZNA. We are being ruled by solders masquerading as civilians. there is nothing the opposition can do to succeed. Some of us we haven't forgotten what the late General Zvinavashe said about the opposition in 2003. The only time we saw a change in Zim 's top office was when the army decided that there should be a change. The same person who in 2008 was rejected by the people the army said he is not going anywhere even though he wanted to step down.
You are far mature and intelligent. No political strategy can remove a political party backed by the army unless the system cracks from within
My simple analysis is telling me that Trevor anekakuvenga Chamisa. But......
Or you need to be a bit more objective. He did not win the election didn’t he?
I think so too
I think he is tribalist
He doesnt hate him but henis against his ideas or way of doing politics. Im the same as well. Too many verses will never remove zanupf
truth be told, zim needs a different strategy to get rid of zanu and i think he might be onto something here. Problem is Zimbabweans want a quick fix.
Thank you trev this was a huge therapy for job to pour out his horrible experiences through this interview.i can see you feel much better after all this.
Trevor you should have preserved this man’s dignity when he asked you to SWITCH OFF. This is so wrong to continue when he asks for a moment when he was vulnerable . It doesn’t show you in a good light
JOB ndiChandagwinyira he can be shaken but can not fall. Strong pillars only shake but cannot fall. He is a resolute leader and a blessing to our nation.
yes
Good idea Job. It's not possible in Zim with all the democratic spaces closed by Zanu pf. The power to gather is always denied in Zim. The traditional leadership will not allow that process to take place. The media spaces are also closed. This will fail right at its conception unfortunately.
Job just needs to sit down for now and get counselling and therapy..
you enjoy suffering
Switch of the cameras 😂😂 travor you are at work
Thanks for the platform
Trevor wairasa,Job did well…His line of questioning was to push him to attack Nelson,mboko.
Job The Man. I think A combination of him and Chamisa And the People Will do To Turn Around Things. Aluta Continua
Are we sure "we the people" know what needs to be done, know how to organize themselves, generally "we the people" are effective at rallies and voting. When it comes to actually getting things done we need a few people, leaders, who can work together and come up with action items.
Job is solid 👌
Thank you Job you're a fighter fighting for a good cause.
But I'm beginning to believe that Travor hate Nelson Chamisa
Well-said like a grassroots Matigari, simple and non-academic. Thanks Trevor for unpacking.
What he is talking is a theory that is magnified without taking consideration of an existing barriers of a Zanu pf system and Dictatorship perpetuated against Opposition. There is nothing new he has said which is any different approach taken by the CCC.
A great interview in most respects, but Trevor tried to manipulate Sikhala and I'm glad that he pushed back in a spectatular way.
It's so sad and heart broken to know that people like Job Sikhali are being persecuted by the regime just for voicing up their opinions and wishing nothing but the good of all citizens. His conviction remains resolute and he stood a good stead in spite of the repression he was experiencing. Such a hero of note.
Touching episode. Thanks Trevor for delivering this episode!
Long live Mr Skhala . There's saying dat says greet them on yo way up coz ull meet them one day wen ulll be on yo way dwn. One day is one day victory is certain.
Isn’t that what the Citizens coalition under leadership of Advocate N Chamisa was doing? Consulting the people and make it a people’s movement? . Well, if this is a genuine task force they will come back with a positive message . Because people want you and Nelson working together.
I know so too broo
Nuggets here from Job, i like the total change he is advocating for in our politics
This guy is telling the truth.Now the opposition in Zimbabwe dobas if they are bigger than Zimbabwe itself. Look at Chamisa, its like he is the hope of the pple not the leader of the pple.The pple hv to feel included as share holders not as voters only.
Its high time you make a mature decision Job, otherwise you will regret all thhe 600 days you spend in prison, which l think they need an incentive and recognition. You wanted to start a political party we know that and you shelved that. Keep that shelved abd never open a page. Dont forfet the slogans you were chanding when you got out of prison, Ziiiii, Zimbabwe. Ziiiii zimbabwe.
You were too fast. You were supposed to stay home, heal and see the direction of the winds then decide. Thank you brave man
There is no need to go back to the people to ask where the struggle went wrong, it's already clear and evident that a lack of principles has hurt the opposition for a long time.
The ordinary man cannot fathom all this as they tend to hero worship. Zimbabwe needs principled individuals for it to go forward and that if that doesn't happen then no change can take place.
This is painful, beyond politics or political affiliations. We can’t have a country where citizens are treated like this just because of politics. What does independence mean then?
strength to you Job.
i think trevor you are on point when you say ,our Opposition Leadership has failed to owner failer as a step forward.
Mugabe spent 11 in prison.
Zvobgo, Muzenda, Nkomo same.
Mnangagwa 9 yrs, etc etc.
Job spend days.
Zanu is right now laughing at Job.
Job is a fighter. I salute you my brother. Thumps up to Hopewell, David Coltat others. The rest we are sell outs.
Nice to hear my brother Job speaking, but I will remind you once again what I told you on our last meeting NO opposition will ever win Zim without having its intelligence department.
Jobho.... Shift from being agents of change to agents of a livable basic life for every citizen of Zimbabwe... ...
Trying to change ideology of ZANU which many Africans ascribe to is trying to force a mountain to move
I don't think what Job is trying to do is innovative in any way speaking in terms of Zimbabwe's political history. Several community consultative exercises have been done as far as i can remember, there is nothing new. The question is what have we benefited from them as a people. It is pretty obvious that despite Job's effort to pretend as not eying the number 1 position, he is actually doing so. Its an old rhetoric to portray one self's political ambition as a revolution of some sort yet the end goal is never different from what we have already seen in the corridors of treachery and selfishness. If Job is truly a man with new ideas and new determination for the struggle why can't he complement an already existing formation? Food for thought.
There has never a struggle in any society that has done anything without leadership..
Trever agara akamaka Chamisa
Anoda kungwarirwa
Chamisa has some flaws as well so it's healthy to have people who criticize his idealogy as well. Chamisa is same version of Mugabe. Mugabe started well but ended badly and people see such traits in Chamisa
YOH!!!! Thank you Sirs. Moving.
Why didn't they stop when they were asked to
Love the way Trevor does interviews. The guy is smart.
Job open yr zanu will create hatreds between u and chamisa we not allowed to demonstrate against yr ubuse they block everything judge. S we bribed with 400k before elections every thing is captured guys we need arm's to fight zanu is not going charge it's spot with elections i think it's a joke .most off the arm's will come from juniors s from army they are also suffering
Zanu looks u inside bcoz we where around elections they know they loose u can mobilise demonstration s they are scared off u
The moment you realise Zimbabwe's problems are spiritual, then you will realise the right course to take. Not this. I remember Job saying "I am ready to die for this country",
Great Interview Good Question coming from Trevor there
After watching this interview, I dont see a man with a solution to conquering Zanu pf.
😂😂😂😂 No plan at all
Haaa plan hapana hapo kkkkkkk dai vabatana naChamisa
Plan yachamisa ndeyei zviya timujoinewo
Forget about Chamisa. He’d a chance and he is not the one
@@carolinematsveru2566Chamisa wacho aperegwa plan chaiyo haachina
You are right there by letting people to decide, there will be no one to go after.
Why do Zimbabwean camera men not edit off when someone is emotional especially when they request to stop the camera ? it's sad that people have learnt the culture of not respecting someone's will just like their authoritarian leaders.
The idea is very Good but without the leader this will surely fail
Great interview and truly Job came out well.
Trevor ,Listening to Job he is greater peoples commander.back to teach people We are our own liberators. It has worked and can work again with fruition.Give the Mass their Hands mavoko
We need a broad based political setup. We cannot have two parties representing 17 plus million people, Shonas and Ndebele think the country belongs to them yet we have 10 or more other tribes that exist in this country. We have to understand that Zimbabwe is for all Zimbabweans, people from Binga need to be heard and the best person to represent them is someone who understands their challenges, someone who loves the culture and is willing to work hard to improve the lives of the people there. Zimbabwe is a very rich country for us to be suffering like this. Zanupf rule has to be neutralized for the nation to advance. Above all we need leaders that put Zimbabwe abv party and person interests
So touching Trevor and Job all are the victims of this regime wakomana 😢
So touching
He asked that you switch off, but it still went through editing and the final piece???
That was very unprofessional and betray of trust
Agreed
That was uncalled for. I wonder how Job feels about it.
Agreed
The problem in Zim is that the opposition has sharp leaders but with no political ideology and structures while ZANU pf has an ideology and structures but without a sharp leader.How about asking for sanctions to be removed so that we may judge who exactly is wrong
My Brother Trevor, please lets have Nelson Chamisa on the show
Chamisa will crush him
He will rather shut down the channel than bring Nedza on it!
4th revolution Zimbabweans let us embrace this idea .....this man is a fighter
dear Brother, you need to rest; all these interviews will do no good for your physical and mental health
what ever agenda you have at the moment; shelve for now; it will still work after a year or two, of quite reflections; therapy, counselling, reconnecting with wife and family; you will have more respect that way
we are alright Sir, seeing we are still here after you were away two years ; we do not need you to deliver us; we need you to rest and recuperate for now. thank you
The harder the ground the stronger the dynamite. They have made you strong
Zimbabwe has the most educated people, however very uncivilized.They are all power Hungry.Chamisa is no different from Robert Mugabe,too much talk and no action at all.
"Leadership with a heart of its people" Job Wiwa Sikhala
How practical are these ideas from Job?
right now, any idea is better than doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome, a true definition of insanity
Its so painful to imagine what this champion has gone through. I wish him well, he is such a fighter. And I think he's on NC's side but cannot say it now until the woods are clear. This time Zanu irikurohwa neyawapusa wapusa, they dont know which is which.
Remember God loves you ,thats why you are here .
When the few enjoy fresh bread we are searching for crumbs and can’t find them, I am sure when the sellout guerrillas depart a chance for the nation will come to enjoy the benefits of the struggle. I dream for a free Zimbabwe.
Please Chamisa’s fans give us a break, the democratic struggle is not a theological struggle. Job’s political agenda is far more important and relevant to modern day democracy. Why Would Job join Chamisa who advocates for a structure less organisation? Job is unequivocally rooting for leaders who come from the people not the other way round.
17:41 a movement without structures, Job, the 'people' leading themselves?
Taura chokwadi bhruru.
truth be told, zim needs a different strategy to get rid of zanu and i think he might be onto something here. Problem is Zimbabweans want a quick fix.
We should follow the way they do it in US. A year before the election people contest in primaries to the candidate. The party can have party president . Party president does not mean you are the presidential candidate. There has to be proper primaries for that
‘we’ are to blame; particularly the people.😢
This is the type of politics i believe in. Zanupf and chamisa chete chete ideology is not taking us anywhere
Im just happy that u are out of Prison, u are free and u are back in the warm arms of your wife.for your political career ,i advice u to take a chill pill and relax.Chamisa is the man
The words of a man (i will never be shaken )❤
Watching you shed tears that you had to tell your wife to sell the houses and cars you have to sustain your Children.
What you fail to realise is that whilst selling many houses is making you cry.
Many Zimbabweans don't have any house to sell, some are having their homes demolished. You are clearly out of touch with reality. What about the children of Zimbabwe.
You already have many houses and many cars. Why are you interfering with the Zimbabwean struggle. Clearly you may say youbare in the struggle but you are not struggling. You infact want more and more.
People already chose Nelson Chamisa, isusu hatichadi vanhu vanoda ma positions in parties, parliaments, senate, councils and are making money whilst we are struggling pretending to represent our interests.
Seeing wiwa cry like this breaks my heart
Mr Trevor, yes you are receiving viewership and what ever other benefits from this interview; have you considered the timing of this interview with Mr Sikhala in terms of his mental and physical well being?
Wiwa is trying to reinvent the wheel. The people know what they want. The consultations he proposed were done at the formation of the MDC and the theme was 'Chinja Maitiro'.
The current issue is how we translate it into power. Job can not tell us he does not want power. He does.
Chamisa is our leader and we will support him against these idealists.
There is no political party without a leader. No leader is perfect.
During the liberation struggle, people cooperated with a guns on their heads. ZANU continued this strategy . The rural folk have never had peace.
They get beaten, and they are coerced by chiefs and sabhukus who are not willing partners. They are murdered and the police are powerless
to intervene.
We cannot play around the word democracy. It thrives on the rule of law. The Tshabangu debacle is there for us to see. Politics cannot be run as a registered company. The leader is always strategising to meet the changing circumstances.
In conclusion, Job is finished as a politician. He is suffering from ammesia.
If you have time please bring Nelson Chamisa
eagaly waiting for that day my bro
Wiwa prescribes a people centered Movement . Viva!
Do anyone ever think for an ordinary Zimbabwean s children do people also think we are experiencing the same thing you know what I don't care because this is the live we are going thru too angilandabalathi siyahlupheka labantwanethuyet we have got sellout yekani ukusi user it's enough
Good idea to bring an American approach to politics. But munourayisa vana neZanu pf
American ndeipi manje cde?
Guys pliz fix your subtitles, perfect this channel
Too many lawyers… they can’t problem solve. Need a mix of people, engineers and people with design thinking skills to navigate 🗺️ this mess
You are better my brother you hv got things to sell .us we cross over borders so tht we can be able to school our children and to put food on the table .
i think anyone who comes and declares that "he originates an idea" and does not want a position at all and just want to see is not being truthful....... We wait to be proven wrong
At the end you need a person who is loved by the people and we have Nelson there!!
Job u are fast on making decisions and writing later . Ini kuziva nezva job ndakanzwa na mahere chamisa na Ostalos chibaya and many more of yr ccc comrades . Upto sadac and all platforms cal upon yr release. And cal upon every one to help if possible .