Mechanics of Striking: Elastic Recoil vs Bone Stacking
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Shane explains the difference between elastic recoil & bone stacking, giving examples of punches & kicks, while explaining the anatomy and benefits of each. Whether you are striking for MMA or boxing, give these mechanics a try!
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thank you for the shoutout and the amazing work brother
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Don't mention it -- keep up the good work, sir!
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Really nice breakdown, lots of little things that make a big difference! I like the mention of the lats, one of the best ways to connect your hip to your punch.
PLEASE, when you use any kind of rotating kick (roundhouse, turn kick, etc) please dont forget to rotate on the ball of your foot. You will do damage to your knee after a while. This is also important with a hooking punch.
Shane could you give me some tips on how to wear ur opponent out while standing please.. ive got a kickboxing match with a higher skilled boxer than me i think my only chance is to get him tired he has better cardio than me so i just need a few ways to get him tired early... also great vid mate keep it up
LocoLewis I'm replying just to get him to see this
Aleksije Vujovic me too 😂
LocoLewis sub me
LocoLewis keep a constant pace and keep them moving
LocoLewis Bodyshots man, also if leg kicks are allowed use them. They destroy not only your opponents footwork but also power.
Excellently explained. THX!
thanks for this shane, saves us the painful experience
I want those gloves. 10/10 would buy.
Andy sub me
100 Percent No
Veteran Grizz plz
Veteran Grizz Veteran Grizz He is saying he wants you guys to submit him and dominate him I think.
Samuel Velazquez I'm saying no because he doesn't have any content or subscribers
Amazing vids as always Shane! Keep up the good Work👌💯💪
Do you prefer to use both in a single punch?
What type of gloves are those? And good videos as always
Can't wait for the gloves.. hopefully they're affordable
All that is good information to know, but ya'll need to remember that violence is not cool, fighting should only be done in self defence and bullies suck.
Will bench press increase my punching power?
Shane my brother are you ok?
Your skin says Sideshow Bob, your face says crack.
you should make a collaboration video with DK Yoo
Where can i buy your gloves ??
so do i try to punch through someone or snap it?
Tonne Fan problem with that is that physics says you should snap it because of f=ma
Why does my dad keep hitting my mom? She's not wearing a mouthpiece
Your dad is just old school, kids nowadays don't remember bare knuckle no mouthpiece fighting. A shame really.
Sepulchure Valen wow thanks
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Because she keeps bone stacking
I like how you take a scientific approach to fighting and training, good stuff here dude
John Doe I agree 😂
FighttipX - Putting the science back in fighting :D
John Doe same man
John Doe fighting is actually very scientific
Ironvale They should teach it when you're doing Science in school lol.
I really dislike Mindsmash's mystic bullcrap, it was all fine and dandy for a couple of videos but he tend to blow shit out of the water. Like, a guy lands a straight, to everyone "ok that guy feinted and got in" or "his enemy couldn't parry the combo" or something normal like that, but smash comes in and start saying shit like "he missed up his brain, the guy was afraid, like a scared rabbit, FRONTAL LOOOOOBE SHUTDOWN, he kamehameha his feces hole into the zone of fire that lies beyond life", like dude calm your tits, he just punched the guy. It's like he over glorify simple and I just don't like that, part of why I hate asian martial arts.
Hamza Shukri For me it was when I heard him talking about "flow state" and his thick creamy theta waves lol
Hamza Shukri hahah 100% agree
I just can't stand his voice either
Good Shit as always Shane.
Love your Channel.
Yeah Shane, you've helped me so much over the years. Keep grinding bro
R L sub me
RL II What the...Go to sleep
Doesn't he look like Francis from Malcom in the middle.
LOL and people have commented on previous videos that my little brother looks like Dewey
fightTIPS thaaaats why you seem so familiar to me!
I'm so weak at you 😂😂😂
chill bro😂😂
My son was born two days ago. I can't wait to teach him these.
you already wasted his two days. now hurry up already.
McFlubberpants Train his reflexes early, your son will be the best mma fighter ever.
McFlubberpants Congrats and im not trying to tell you how to raise him, but you should teach him how to properly fight early on
Jago Nexus I agree. I started Karate at six and that helped me a lot in elementary school.
Your son is nearly a week only now, has he mastered the techniques yet?
What I've learnt over the years is that it's not "versus", it's "and". Using elastic recoil for speed and bone stacking plus muscle tightening and correct posture for muscular/structural support has significantly increased the power of my hits. I wish i had learnt that when I was competing. ;/ Great breakdown, as always, Shane!
I'm glad you watch MindSmash's videos as I enjoy his videos very much.
MrKinggodzilla really like the way he explains things
Fernando Gonzalez Valle i really like his voice too but it annoys some people 😂😂
Redtan Sonyeondan dont really know why 😂
Fernando Gonzalez Valle Yeah me neither 😂😂😂
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Hey Shane, what do you think about knuckle pushups on hard surfaces? Does this help in fighting performance?
Vegan Paradise Wanderer It's very good for wrists, but it's much better to do it on a soft but firm surface such as a tatami, as to not hurt your knuckles overtime.
It won't hurt your knuckles you can do them on concrete when you are good enough. I think they do help a little bit thoogh and they are not bad for your knuckles at all.
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Is it better to do them on hard or soft surfaces ?
Edward Pennyworth a
Good stuff.. a little more bend in the elbow on that jab would help avoid shoulder or elbow pain
Shane these are the kind of vids I like to see. Techniques that have not been covered by y'all before.
Keep it up sir....u r doing great for all the fighters in the world LOVE FROM INDIA
Bone stacking is a term I never heard before, and didn't realize it was involved in boxing mechanics. I know it as "body connection" from my long time karate instructor. We practiced so much on that piercing punch that drills into the target, being concerned with placement and penetrating into the target with the body driving through on impact by being as solid/unmovable as possible so that all the force goes into the other guy.
Anyway, I never use gloves (gonna start getting used to it), so that satisfying pop or pound that boxers have on a bag was something I could never get quite right. But now I see it's the same effect, just smaller and denser.
Really like your channel. It's full of stuff for me to learn and practice. Thanks a lot for doing what you do.
Karate is a joke.
Most of mindsmash's stuff is bullshit, he has no actual expertise in biomechanics.
1:15 bless you
I thought i was breathing weirdly because of asthma until i realised jump aroundwas playing in the background
Fuck I love mind smash too Shane
Can you do a CaneloGGG breakdown before the fight? Great videos as always!
From Melbourne Australia, thanks again for another great video. You do so much for all of us
Can you do a video on how to flutter on your feet like Muhammad Ali?
I'm not a fighter but absolutely LOVE your channel because there's so much science behind fighting that just fascinates me
Great to hear, Nash! Everyone must be a fighter in some aspect of life :) Thank you for the support.
SLOW MOTION CALISTHENICS...The best of both worlds....strengthens every link in the kinetic chain, and then you will snap harder at the end.
Years ago an 80-year-old boxing coach taught me to slightly lift my shoulder as it comes forward then quickly drop it in a snapping motion. You can see boxers popping their shoulders when they shadow box. Specifically Ali and Leonard.
HOW TO THROW PUNCHES AND KICKS WITH ELASTIC RECOIL VIDEO PLEASSSEEE!!!! That's a very good video
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Interesting, but it would be best if you'd point out where each principle is coming from, cause it might obviously differ from style to style. E.g. what you've explained for kicks looks like a Thai technique, but I'm pretty sure that their approach to punches must be different (I mean traditional MT, not the Holland version which is mixed with European boxing).
Maybe someone with no education in biomechanics should not be talking about biomechanics.
Well someone got a little bit exciting with color grading. I'm sorry I cant help it, that's what I do XD Great video as always Shane.
I agree with everything you said EXCEPT the last part. If we're in a fight the last thing we want to do is lose our head and just start swinging. Obviously we're not going to be analyzing every strike with the same precision that we do with sparring, but we need to practice the technique enough that when that adrenaline dump hits and your mind goes blank (at least like mine does in a fight), the punches thrown are still technically sound. In my first amateur win (1-2 lol rip), i don't remember throwing the beautiful 1-1-6-3-to clinched knee combination that i threw. My coaches and training partners trained me so that I instinctively threw with the perfect form. Had i thrown the trail uppercut in a looping fashion, the opponent would have simply countered my 6 with a 2 of his own and stopped the real killer (the knee to the body).
Hey Sir! I am from India. I am a big fan of yours! I just wanted to asks you how to be like damn focus and lightening fast when going through a bully? Is there any way to practice these things? (Especially in cases where you cannot really let go a knife attack).
Quick question: people say turn your fist when punchinng, does that not internally rotate the shoulder? Asking cos shoulders are fucked from MMA atm, wondering why
I feel like the delivery of MindSmash videos are pretty good, but I so many of his videos seem like he read a Wikipedia page on the subject, and then applied to whatever fighter people have been commenting for lately. Especially when he goes into things like cortisol levels and brain waves. He doesn't often say something objectively incorrect, but he often seems like he just learned something and is trying to apply it to as many things as possible. His knowledge of biomechanics seems similar in depth as well. Definitely fun to watch though.
I've noticed, adrien broner caves his elbows while doing fast hook combinations. It's weird cause they still look like they hurt, it's probably how he's learned to snap his punches over time
My hand turns prickly and blue of blood displacement from sentrifugal force when I bitchslap.
How can I avoid it ?
Hey Shane what's your opinion on taekwondo sparring? ATA rules specifically
Anyone who likes watching minesmash should check out "the weasle" he does similar videos but there more informative.
Hey Shane, just wondering if you could do a video on defence in boxing I'm being taught to rest my elbows on my stomach, is that good, or what would you recommend, thanks
This sounds extremely similar to how Bruce Lee described the difference between kung fu punches and karate punches, he said kung fu punches are like throwing a heavy metal ball at the end of a chain at someone while karate punches are like striking them with a solid iron bar, both do damage, but the way they are thrown is different.
Everyone is first
TGQ ikr 😂
Hey Shane can you make a video on how to win a fight where head shots are OFF LIMITS...thanks keep up the good work!
Some boxing coaches will not let you “whip” your punches. They want a to b motions, shortest range of motion possible to eliminate telegraphing. I had one tell me “you’re not a bow and arrow” lol
You can also do even more bone stacking by having your non striking arm shoulder on line along with the torso. Essentially putting your entire torso in one line. In Wing Chun it's called pinsan choi. Literally side turned punch.
I assume that neijia 內家 as bone stacking and wàijiā 外家 as elastic recoil, how is your opinion?
Elastic recoil is the easiest way to get a injury . Bone stack you may get a rolled wrist or joint pain if not conditioned. It's beat to flex or tense up just before the impact less damage . Resistance training with slow and gradual build up in conditioning gives a great result with minimum to little damage .
In my opinion Shane isn't very good at explaining this. I recommend watching mindsmash's video ua-cam.com/video/VA3fEicDkBw/v-deo.html
Can anyone tell me what shoes Shane was wearing in the clip. I thought it's Asics Matflex 5, can anyone confirm this ??
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Educating meathead fighters since 2007
Good shit. This is one of the things I've tried to explain to beginners about technique and how to properly strike with speed and power. Some get it naturally and others take a while to develop
Nice Video Shane, can't wait for the fightbtips gear 🤔
like / dislike ratio is incredible! 1858 likes & only 3 dislikes at the moment. now that's an awesome community!
I want to start practicing MMA but I don't have any pro gym nearby, can i do something about it? Can i learn to fight from tutorials?
I thought you were suppose to stay relaxed until the last second? Right before impact. Some people might take this as keeping your arms tight throughout the punch.
Elastic recoil is why some greats like ray Robinson and ggg tend to lift right foot off the ground on power shots so the elastic recoil doesn’t take some of the power away. Let me know if I’m right or wrong I’m pretty sure they used to practice throwing right hand lifting right foot at the end.
135 lbs....:p
Never really taken Mindsmah seriously on that elastic recoil,it only seems to add a little to the punch.I tried it and I think that oldschool punches from the hip work better.
Can you elaborate a bit on the bone stacking? Or provide related material source?
I can't find any of it.
i wish i could meet you i could show you how to combine bone stacking with elastic recoil dealing extreme damage I accidentally hit the steel ring bare fist on the heavy bag and broke it using this it still hurt like a b**** though.
You should do a fight training mythbuster series. A lot of bs going around like wacking your shins with bamboo and alcohol going around to bust
I found out I like to grapple but I know how to strike also but my specialty is grappling so im confident when it comes to grabs just not my strikes im not that strong on my arms but my chest and legs are *powerful* so that why I need to throw harder because the chances of your opponent to get close with u is slim so that why I need help
This guy looks like he's having fun.
He makes me wanna buy a punching bag too
Shane are you advocating full extension for bonestacking?
pretty much the concepts between ggg (Bone stacking) and canelo (recoil)
Your videos are very helpful shane but you got the explanation of elastic recoil wrong
Julian Jackson used elastic recoil and he was no doubt the hardest puncher in boxing!!
Can you go over the 7/10 concept? I had a 92 year old red belt of Kosho Ryu kempo explain it to me and found it very useful. What I mean by 7/10 is you bring back the fist 30% faster than you came with it.
michaelbird27 Sounds to me like you would know more about 7/10 than Shane. Care to elaborate more? :]
Pugglen haha. I just watched a video on Derrida: you must be American like me www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=%23&ved=0ahUKEwjuoIeAvIrWAhWL3YMKHcjlBZsQwqsBCCcwAA&usg=AFQjCNF1sHlk2z9QIx28jtvfnGP_UlkifA I'd be happy to explain, as I understand it, which is limited compared to the man that explained it to me. I think it uses bone stacking, but uses what's called the two small triangles which enables freedom of movement and gets power from the body's center of gravity, which is right below the belly button. The tip of the two triangles derives from the center of gravity and extends above and below. The upper triangle goes to the shoulder and the lower triangle extends to the feet. It's important that the two triangles are roughly the same size. Using Newton's law: for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction the two triangles should compensate for one another, meaning, when a pinch is thrown a small step is taken, the key is freedom of movement. The impact uses bone stacking as the strike comes from the floor and travels up the body in one singular motion, but instead of bracing the joints by flexing, the body remains relaxed until the exact moment of impact. Upon impact the fist, forearm, shoulder, back and buttocks is squeezed tightly but as soon the impact happens the tension is released and the first is brought back 30% faster than thrown. The reason behind bringing it back faster is because over time the shockwaves of stricking, especially with the left hand causes internal damage to the organs, most notable the heart. It's akin to hitting a baseball with the skinny part of the bat rather than on the sweet spot. The shockwave comes back to the fighter punching. Over the course of a bout this shock tires you out. The 7/10 punch avoids this harmful shockwave, instead, giving the opponent all of the kinetic energy. The 7/10 punch does not require turning over and is for barenuckle punching. Handwraps and gloves reduce the effectiveness of the 7/10 punch by adding a buffer between ones delivery system (the arm and fist) and the target (the chin or solar plexus) it's like a bullwhip.
So, are on the impact of the cross or a jab, are you supposed to squeeze your triceps, shoulders, lats and chest ?
Thanks for the advice Shane! Now my grandma doesn’t stand a chance 😈
Shane we want audio workout with punches 1-6 ,
like this comment to let him know.
Hey Shane do you train people? If so do you think you can train me?.
very informative. really this was a good lesson . shout out to Mind Smash
Best thing is, coming home after Muay tai/MMA training to fightTips
Shane the weasel is also a good channel to watch as is mindsmash
boggz gaming then check out Brendan Dorman too
weasle the god.
mindsmash is garbage bro.
Only weasel i see is in my own relection
One Only yeah it is
JUST show the skeleton scene like in thumbnail!-.-
Where can i buy this gloves? They are awesome! :D
Nice observe, u study boxing cuz u cant play it🤗
Hi Shane, do you have any email adress where I can ask you doubts ?
I still walk around with a mouthguard in my pocket.
Great shit, love it, not hating but my man you need to do more leg day looked like a twig, all love though my man
Good video! I hit the LIKE button even though Shane forgot to remind me!
Good stuff shane this is the importance of punching with the end of your reach
Then what kind of punch do you think does Edwin Valero use ?
Thanks you gave me a few more things to think about one of your better vids
Wo would win in the octagon, or on the street? The Mountain or Connor Mcgregor?