Edifier R1700BTS Review - Desktop Champ
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
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Review of the Edifier R1700 BTS powered speaker. Uncompromised imaging and soundstage from a small package.
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Subscribed because you're the first reviewer I've seen in the general consumer space to correctly describe what a crossover, dsp and phase are. All important info for people wanting to get great sounding music!
I did not understand what a crossover is and what did he do exactly to turn it up ?
I find these speakers so be surprisingly good for the price. They actually image well and the frequency response is not the typical U shape. For the money you really cannot go wrong.
I am considering getting them for my TV. Would they be good for film in terms of vocals being clear?
@@hypolyxa7207 In my experience yes. I use them for teaching English so I need clarity in dialogue.
@@kaunas888 Thank you, Kaunas. I hope you've had a lovely Monday. :)
Nice to see Edifier getting postive reviews outside of Europe. It's also great that these have a Sub Out. My R2730DB also have one and it really does make a difference when you add a subwoofer. I wish all Edifier models (especially the higher-end ones) had a Sub Out too. I'd love to hear your opinion on other Edifier products in the future.
I don't understand why they don't all have a sub out either. They are very popular but need a sub to sound their best.
@@cheapaudioman What is your opinion on the edifier s360db?
Will we ever know?
I have a set of these. I love them. I find when you drive them hard they shine through. I'm still amazed how much sound comes.out.of these little guys. Definitely worth the money. 👍👍
They'd be good for is the bass turned to flat and paired with a sub like the t5
Same here they shine well on some music and there only really good monitors ones you step back about 10ft they lose a lot of bass and some other stuff and I like rap and a lot of the stuff I like when the volume is up there boomy but low volume and the right music they sound incredible what I think t
I have a set of the R2000db's hooked up to my computer (with sound card). Just awesome. Such an immense upgrade over standard gaming speakers. I actually enjoy listening to music while working now.
Thanks for this - I added a sub as you mentioned and it takes the stress out of these things and allows them to do their thing. Perfect for my bedroom
Do you happen to know of the model of Sub you added?
I would also like to know this
@@leesuschrist Sorry for the delay.. I actually pulled my polk audio PSW10 from my living room as I have bigger bookshelves and center channels there. To my amazement they're still being sold 20 years later
@@calumniate newbie here is it just direct connection?, I have Yamaha ns-sw50 that only accept 3.5 input. And I don't think it have lfe.
@@liesandy291 I'm using the 3.5 out to rca. Think you'd just need a 3.5 to 3.5 cable ;)
I'm so happy with the Edifier R1280DBs in my bedroom I got a second pair for the kitchen.
$80 inc shipping is almost stealing them. Great value for money!
Where did you get them for $80??!
@@StromBugSlayer Amazon Prime special.
The sub out is a must. Here's why: "....I reviewed a sub for another publication recently and was surprised by how much it seemed to improve the sound quality in the mid and treble, how on earth could a low frequency driver that was limited to frequencies below 60Hz make the system more revealing higher up the range.
I put this question to Hideto Watanabe, senior manager at Eclipse Home Audio who played bassoon and conducted in an orchestra in his youth, a factor that clearly informed his answer. Apparently it comes down to the ‘pyramid’ of dynamics that an orchestra needs to achieve for it to produce what Hideto describes as a ‘rainbow of harmonics’.
The pyramid is a tonal one with bass at the bottom as a foundation, midrange notes in the middle and treble at the top; the wider the area of the pyramid that each tonal range occupies the greater the dynamics (power) required from that range. In essence bass notes need to be supporting the mid and treble to achieve a good harmonic result from the entire orchestra....
That being the case you can see how a subwoofer that’s limited to low bass frequencies can assist the main speakers in producing greater harmonic detail in a stereo system."....www.the-ear.net/review-hardware/eclipse-td725swmk2-subwoofer
For me, it was apparent that the positioning matters if you indeed want to hear bass. Them being on my desk, i didnt hear any bass, but when moving about 6 feet away, upt to 60hz were clearly hearable. The entire room was shaking
Just wanted say thanks. Got the same set up with the mono price sub and it does make an improvement. Small footprint and a nice sound.
I'm thinking about ordering this set for a small living room. I will be using them with BT just for music.
I'm listening to this now on my pc with the R1850BD I got a year ago for $129, paired with a Schiit Modi and it sounds great. Very happy with these speakers for my computer desk.
Randy you should try some of the Edifier models up the line, same value but I think you'll be floored by the sonic improvement. S1000 really IMHO no sub needed, $349 or less. Good information
Got em for 90€ - usually they sell for 130€
Other than removing some bass from the tone knob they are pretty good speakers for the price.
I would love to pair a sub with them although mine doesn't have the port
Swan, Microlab, and Sovox are three other very good speaker brands from China that offer great bang for the buck. Zeos at 'Z Reviews' loves his Swan speakers. :-)
More Edifier reviews please....
They have so many great speakers that dont get enough credit or reviews. S3000PRO and 2850DB are especially great for the cost it would seem.
And that's the trouble to many to choose from
$140 in Australia........... thats crazy cheap n they sound very good. Great stuff!
They're 229 where did you see it for 140 mate..??
@@AntAciieed It was kogan or dick smiths, wait for the sales . They fluctuate quite a bit. They trend too , so just take note. I bought a pair of the 2000 mk3 for $400 when they are usually $600. What they do is if you just have a look n dont buy , next day u get a " are you still interested" email n a discounted price
@@AntAciieed i bought mine probably 12 mths ago
These speakers can be connected to any TV using the headphone jack on the TV. All you need is an AUX to RCA cable which is both easy to buy and cheap.
Great content the best channel on UA-cam .
Wow, thanks!
why is everything mirrored?
If space isn’t an issue on your desk would there be any reason to buy these over the Sony SC5 + Fosi BT20A?
Please pay close attention to what he says at 9:20 . I unfortunately didn't. These speakers have a very boomy bass which cuts off completely around 50hz. They are very good at higher frequencies but if you don't use a sub, they sound like a cheap Logitech like he says. Without a sub, I will pick my swans m10 any day. It seems like cheapaudioman was the only UA-cam reviewer who called a spade a spade.
haha yeah, I cant believe so many other reviews dont call this out explicitly.
Hello I have ordered this and also a yamaha NS-SW050BL 8 inch subwoofer . My question is how much of a difference I should expect from my now 5 years old bose companion 2 series 3 speakers ?
What did you end getting?
Hello how much of an upgrade are they from a Bose Companion 2 Series III which I have been using for the past 5 yearsfor my laptop and a recently acquired desktop ?
Great review. I wanted to get your opinion on this idea to take the headphone output from a Roku TV remote with the 3.5mm jack and run the RCA cables into these Edifier speakers. Would I be able to drive these with that low a sound source? I"d definitely get these for the sub out feature. Thanks for that tip.
Edifier are an awesome brand with great sound quality. Earfun are in there with them. Great sounding audio products.
Informative video! just a question, I bought the the version without the sub out. just because the the only version sold in NZ. I use it with my PC and wanting to put a sub. My audio port on my motherboard has RS and CS out. Can I connect a random subwoofer there and will automatically integrate with my edifer R1700BT? thanks a lot
Came for the info and really liked the atmosphere! Excellent channel,-you are very knowledgeable AND entertaining! I like cheap audio (and coffee!), so this is the place to be!
Thanks, keep up the great work, I really look forward to each video!
Joe
I have the R1700bts with T5 in my bedroom. For some reason I enjoy them more than the S3000 pro in the living room.
probably the room
Hi, great review! Can I ask you, does the main speaker play in stereo on its own if you dont have the space for the two speakers? In a kitchen for example.
Also, how would this compare to the edifier S1000MKII ?
How do you get from that set to the sub? Great review and I'm looking to duplicate. What plug arrangement, it doesn't look like the out plug on those matches the in on the sub.
it comes with a 3.5mm jack to rca cable, which worked great for me!
Why don't you review the edifier P17 speakers, CheapAudioMan?
Watching a lot of your channel, great videos always. Just getting into the hobby started with a pair of these edifier R1700BTs.
Could you redo this review in 2024 please. Also, when you do your $100 or $200 passive speaker shootout could you include some powered speakers in there? Does it make sense to? Anyway great channel.
Paired mine with an infinity reference 12 inch subwoofer and holy cow these things took a significant jump up in quality with a nicer subwoofer
Hi man! Bought a pair of these, and I really expexted more low/bass sound. What do you think about edifier t5 sub? Is it a cheap sub :DD, or there are some more cheaper subs? I'd like to use it in my 15 square metres room. With not high volume level, like while watching TV, or playing games. Cause I understand nothing in audio :DD.
Any sub that would take rca inputs will work. And yes, they have zero low end. I think the Sony core sub maybe on sale right now.
I have a t5 edifier, sounds great. I used with R2750DB speakers. I did a fast research, with some Yamaha 10' inches, and this sub sounds better. Edifier is really a good brand
@@gaborras T5 is a good sub....that's all you need on a desk top or smart tv in small room.
Very informational. Subscribed!
It'd be nice to know your opinion about the Edifier mr4.
That's the new compact studio monitors and priced around $130.. considering getting myself a pair.
hey there! i don't know much about audio or what is the best thing to buy and not buy. i know about a lot of different genres of music and recently fell into the market place/offer up buy sale and trade groups. i started it off with a Sony STR k9900p and i was using two front channel and a front/rear center channel set up with a 10" subwoofer they were garage sat 80% of their life. to the end of this story im left with the 10 inch subwoofer and i'm getting a set of these tomorrow from a guy. i work on electronics and computers so i was comfortable changing out the RCA going into the active sony 10" and now i can use that sub on a receiver with A&B selection. i can't adjust the cross over though or is there a way i can? i also use a shanling ms1 to play my playlist from tidal music usually with a 3.5mm to rca. i have been shadow watching this channel for months and never comment i just like some of the videos i get time to watch. does cheap audio man have any recommendations? this is all without a budget so if you have recommendations on what to spend 200 is about my limit. i was thinking keep the sub the two edifiers and incorporate a center channel with some depth. i use my audio primarily for gaming, movies and mostly every era of music in a bedroom/office space
Hello, I've learned quite a bit about audio equipment and speakers from watching your channel. Thank you for the great content.
Since making this video have you found a better bluetooth speaker set?
I'm looking for a simple plug & play bluetooth speaker set to connect to my projector for watching movies. Preferably without the need for a sub, since I live in an apartment with a unit below me and want to be respectful.
I own both the 1700 BT and 1700 BTS (the one with subwoofer out), and I don't believe you have to use a subwoofer with either. I was very impressed with the blue tooth performance paired with my phone listening to Spotify on the BT. Hope that helps if your still in stand by mode.
This sub out is sending out full range signal ??? Or they have inbuilt low pass filter and sending only low frequencies out
I think it’s full range. It does out a 120hz high pass on the speakers when a sub is attached though
Awesome review, but if it's too bright with michael kiske voice it would sound too harsh for my ears(maybe). Have you tried how it sound with bright music? like jazz I dont know. Without subwoofer
I wouldn't recommend these without using a subwoofer. I don't really listen to jazz accept for Miles Davis.
@@cheapaudioman thank you, you are awesome
I am considering buying the version with no sub-out. I understand you could add the sub by splitting the 3.5mm audio out. Do they have the same effect? If so, I could save CAD30
i just bought r1700bt . should i return them and buy r1700bts intstead ? i use them on a pc , creative ae-5 soundboard , i don`t use particulary , subwoofer, i don`t need it. these cost here about 40 $ more
Would these be good for a TV when watching movies? Such as vocals being clear?
♥♥♥Edifier R1700BTS
I got the R1280Ts which is the same thing as these and they have the same remote but without Bluetooth controls.
The 1280 is slightly less powerful at 21 wpc vs 30 wpc
Randy, when you have time, could you do a review on the Edifier 1280DBs and perhaps suggest which EQ adjustments are needed to clean the sound up. And maybe compare them to the 1700BTS. I own the 1280Ts and the cheap edifier sub woofer, which is not really cheap to purchase. Thanks
I have the Edifier T5 sub-woofer paired with my 1280Ts speakers.
Will you do the edifier 1850dbs?
I seriously considered these for my kitchen... ended up getting the Sony SSCS-5 w/ A Fosi chip amp while they went on sale. No sub out but with the Sony's sitting on their sides on top of the kitchen cabinets about 8 inches from the wall I don't need or want a sub. Streaming Amazon HD from the Eco Dot or from my LG G7 phone (which has a pretty freaking great DAC) 3.5 mm out to RCA or from the Fosi's BT. I think it was a much better solution for a few dollars less.
Hmmm dunno
Sony SSCS-5 in middle eu is sold at 260$ for a pair. So not exactly an option
Why not flip the video before uploading so it isn't mirrored?
in my r1700bts the reciver light is on right speakers
i paid 117 usd for these
Hi, thanks for review.
Old post but I recently bought these speakers. On my desk I have a Fosi DAC-Q4. Connecting them to this dac would improve sound quality over the AptxHD bluetooth 5.0 or not? (aside form losing the bluetooth connection)
how would these be at TV speakers for movies ? with a sub added....thx...cheers from Canada
What do you all think about the Edifier BTS, maybe this one or R1850DB vs say a passive Polk ES-10 with a Loxjie A30 for a desktop PC near field application? Looking for a good desktop set up with higher marks if I can find a white version for wife design approval.
hi tryiing to find some rear surrounds with strong bass to make up for the lack of subwoffer, ive got forte II's as fronts... would these work? any better reccomendation?
What kind of DAC are you talking about here? Does it make sense to use a DAC with these speaker at all?
I got these and I have a Xbox one series S and a monitor I can connect these to my monitor right??
These, or the R1850db, or klipsch r-15pm for my turntable ? I have a klipsch sw-350 sub I may use with them
Hello from India and thanks for this video! Can you please do a video for the s1000mkii🙏
can people still hijack the speakers by connecting randomly to Bluetooth?
I just ordered the R1850 which seems to be a little bit beefier version of this. They were only $80 after Best Buy points. I can't wait to check them out next week!
can i connect my uphoria umc202hd to these speakers? is it whorth it doing it or ai rather conect them to the pc directly?
If your adding a 60 dollar sub why not upgrade and get a better speaker package instead?
I bought the normal version and 2 weeks later, I realized this new version existed. I felt so miserable. For 10$ you get a decent remote which I'd really love to have not to mention the sub out output.
I’m sorry to hear that. You couldn’t return it? Problem with powered speakers is you can’t do a sub even with line level inputs to the sub. Thanks for watching.
@@cheapaudioman I live out of the states. You have no idea how hard it is for me to purchase these products and have them sent to my country (El Salvador) Thanks for your reply, and hope you keep on bringing such great content.
I believe you can still add a subwoofer to the r1700BT in either of the following ways:
Option 1: A '3.5mm Male to 2 RCA Male' cable connected to the source and an 'RCA Female to 2 RCA Male' cable connected to each of the RCA Males.
Option 2: A '3.5mm Male to 2 RCA Female' cable connected to the source and an 'RCA Male to 2 RCA Male' cable connected to each of the RCA Females.
Option 3: A '3.5mm Male to 2 3.5mm Female' cable connected to the source and a '3.5mm Male to 2 RCA Male' cable connected to each of the 3.5mm Females.
I think this should work, although I have not tried it myself.
@@brandongrech8111 that would work if the source has a variable voltage to the speakers like a DAC with volume controls. At that point the DAC would in essence become a preamp. I’ve done this before and it does work. Without variable voltage though the sub and speakers will not have a linear volume gain and the sub wouldn’t have any volume gain at all.
@@cheapaudioman unfortunately I am uneducated when it comes to audio so I don't really know what is meant by variable voltage and did not understand what you told me. I only know about what I wrote because I read that it works earlier today and intended to buy the cables to do it myself.
Could you tell me if this solution would work if the source is a PS5 (connected to monitor via hdmi and the speaker/sub cables would be connected to the monitor via 3.5mm), as well as in the case of the source being a desktop PC?
Can you connect a second set of these on the sub out?
no
Yes you can
R1280DBS vs R1700BTS?
pls do 1000mk ii i just want to hear your honest don't care if its negative
Nice camera angle ..... I have 4 words for you " bats in the cave"....
Interestingly, Edifier doesn't list their frequency response which they do for pretty much all their other speakers
Thats concerning
Hey do you know the difference between these and the r1850db's? I'm new to audio and want to buy my first "nice" speakers for my turntable. They both have sub out which is important to me but the r1850db's are more expensive and I can't seem to find why. Would appreciate your help!
Far as I can tell, the actual speakers (tweeter and woofer) are exactly the same between the two. The frequency response, according to the Amazon listings, are also identical (60hz - 20khz).
The r18 has some more inputs and possibly more outputs, so I think you're just paying more for the technology inside the case, not for the sound. Also a nicer remote, maybe?
If you're looking to set it up with a record player, either should be pretty much identical. I have the r1700dbs, and they sound good with a turntable. Just be sure to get a turntable with the pre-amp built in or a separate pre-amp, no matter which pair you settle on. I have used and love the Audio Technica LP60x. It's a budget turntable, but it's a very reputable manufacturer, and almost all budget (100 - 150 dollar) turntables use an Audio Technica head anyway, so I figure just get it right from the source.
Enjoy!
@@Streckometer thank you! I got the r1700dbs for my audio technica lp120x and I'm super happy with them!
@@Elena-fo8xg you also might consider R1855DB as they have optical connection, 5.0 Bluetooth and much nicer remote control 😉
cpc.farnell.com/edifier/r1855db-black/speaker-set-bluetooth-multimedia/dp/CS33873
R1850DBs have well defined bass You are most probably not finding R1850DBs because there is a new version out R1855DBs.
R1700BT looks same but in some songs bass is not well defined.
Problem with both these speakers are they only have 4 inch woofer driver.
If you are considering adding a woofer which obviously will cost you more cash I would suggest getting S2000MKIII with these you will not need to spend on extra woofer these have 5.5 inch woofer they sounds awesome on their own.
@@jagadishbhatta9562 i got a s1000mk2, do u think s2000mk3 is a good upgrade to me?
Have you tried the Kanto YU6? Whats your top recommendation for a bluetooth capable active desktop/small bookshelf monitor under $400?
I haven't gotten into Powered speakers yet bur probably will.
@@cheapaudioman Powered speakers are real interesting now with all the PC and BT phones playing music. Before the advent of carrying Iphones with music files...active speakers were reduced to esoteric realms (near field monitor speakers for professionals). That's all changed now. Everyone but audiophiles with bucks, want to know...."what are the best powered speakers"? Hope cheapaudioman jumps on this train soon to capture the pulse of a nation.
Is P17 same but passive?
How much the price?
Just got the 1280T’s. Thinking of returning them for these because the highs in the 1280T’s is lacking. Thoughts?
Did you try the tone controls? The 1700 is not lacking on the high end at all. If you can and aren’t happy I’d go ahead and return
@@cheapaudioman Thank you! I tried some variations on the tone controls but couldn’t get the desired clarity on the highs.
@@roberts4605 well I do not think the 1700’s are lacking on the high end. Get the one with a sub out because the bottom end is lacking.
The 1280T's have a more neutral sound when compared to the 1700's . The 1700's have a v-shaped sound curve and are more "punchy" sounding .
Two friends have these RT1700 BTS speakers and rate them as best computer speakers they've every owned. How do I get in touch with the cheapaudioman. There is an Edifier speaker (R2850db) I'd like you to consider for review. Best cheap speakers I've ever heard in that small size.
How would you hook up a Amazon Alexa or Google device to this to make it “smart”?
Google device -> settings -> one will be destination Bluetooth audio device or similar -> pair with the speakers. Once in a long while the pairing will drop but repeat steps and you'll be back up and running.
The Sub must be amplified or the speakers will supply the power ?
Any time there's volume and treble/bass control amplifier is built in
hello can u plz compare it with edifier s1000mk2?
I tried both. S1000mk2 are much bigger (they weight 16kg), they do sound better and look amazing but they do feel more like a tv/home cinema speakers - it actually made my ears hurt when using them as a near-field speakers. I had to return them and got the 1700bts instead.
Randy! I need help! I have these speakers. What under $200 sub do you recommend pro use with these? I use these for my TV and movies, and my main speakers to listen to m,y record player with my wife in a small-ish room. Our couch is close to these speakers. I’m looking at the Jamo S808 and S810 and the Polk 10”, Elac 10”, and Yamaha 8’ or 10”. I prefer the look of the Jamo. But its really not a deal breaker. Am i missing anythingnfor a cheap good Sub? If you reply I really appreciate it. I watch all your videos! Love you my man.
Hey anyone here know if this speaker would be better than the Polk s15 or s10? Thanks for the video and to anyone who replies.
R1855DB and the Elac 1010. Heaven.
Hi guys! =) Hello from Russia) I choose between Edifier R1280DBs and Edifier R1700BTs, I understand that Edifier R1700BTs should be better in sound, but there is no spdif. Planning to use them with my pc, gigabyte aorus ultra z390 motherboard. Does it make sense to buy R1280DBs just for the sake of spdif? what do you think, which ones are worth taking for the best experience?
Hello, my Russian friend. I think you're getting a bit of a better setup with the R1700bts than the 1280's. You can always buy a super cheap usb to optical converter until you've got the money for a decent stand alone DAC. I'd do the R1700bts with a cheap converter and then add a nicer dac later.
@@cheapaudioman oh, why usb to optical, if 1700bts does not have an optical input? Or do you mean run the audio signal like this: pc spdif -> dac (optical to rca) -> speakers?
@@cheapaudioman I watched the video) I got it, thanks for the advice, bro. I will confirm the order in the morning) I left a request for 1700bts in the evening, but began to doubt, now I know for sure that I made the right choice! Thanks again for your advice and good luck with the development of the channel!
@@stereoshock97 yes that’s what I meant. The 1700 is a better speaker than the 1280 in my opinion.
@Евгений Погодин, Hey man. cheers
Подскажи, пожалуйста, где ты заказал 1700bts - их в рашке нигде нет, а с офф стора в ru не везут.
Iam bad at English. 2:23 Could someone please tell me what he said there?
"they loosened up and they got a little bit deeper", and he continues with he prefers using with subwoofers.
turn on cc, its pretty accurate
@@whatup8356 thanks!
Dude, why are your videos reversed?
This was shot on a cell phone with the front facing camera
a massive ask from a fan.
I'm sorry to ask this 😔
but in looking for a bookself speakers for gaming on low volume 🤔
but want to hear them footsteps with wide sound stage..
I can't wear headphones.
I got tinnitus...
a big ask from you host but would mean a lot.. budget is around £600 uk boy here.. but as you know you maybe don't have to spend the full ££ to get a good sound...
but on the other hand ✋️ you only get what you pay for.
want to buy it once not twice lol
thanks for your support and time on this channel 👍
God bless
Hi man! I Don't think you can stay competitive in fps\tps games with speakers, at least not without a huge effort.
Tough I imagine if you set your whole room up for this very purpose with sound absorbing foam, and with the speakers in the height and literally facing your ears in 180⁰ you'd get much better outcome even with a ~100€ Edifier than going with any 500£+ speaker simply put on your desk. But headphones are just way too good for directional sound.
I have the R1280db's on my desk, they're great really but there's no way I can determine the direction other players are approaching me from as close as even a 10 dollar headphone would.
And let's say you have 2 monitors, the moment you look at the side monitor your room setup might won't work because your ears are looking at a slightly different angle to where the speakers are so you slightly missplace what you think about the enemy's position.
@@Gaben3210 thank you for your reply 🙏
X/10?
Bro do you need a Tums?? 😆
Probably
I have a r2000db but it does not have a sub out .
Can I add edifier t5 subwoofer to r2000db ?
You can connect R2000DB to a subwoofer
@@LUGRable
thanks will try out
You can with a y-splitter but you wont have the high pass filter like you do when you have a sub out.
Thanks for review, very useful.
Can you do us a favor please? Next time when you record your review, don't do it just right after your lunch.
I reckon he’s been dipping Copenhagen snuff ……. not digesting his lunch
Good review, I have a friend who runs Linn gear in his living room and was really impressed with these for his office system 😎
No AptX Low Latency :(