Porsche 928 classic car story - Paul Woodford
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- Опубліковано 12 гру 2016
- Join motoring presenter and film maker, Paul Woodford for a delve into the story of Porsche's first foray into eight cylinder motoring.
Every time Porsche has designed a V8 engined car, something big has happened. But is there more to the futuristic-looking Porsche 928 than the unique angles and burbling soundtrack would have you think?
Well the marketing material at the time stated that this car was a 'versatile utility vehicle' - so what does that actually mean? Join Paul for the story of this iconic classic Porsche, and find out.
No bullfrogs or paper bags were hurt in the making of this film.
Thank you to Hessle Golf Club, in East Yorkshire for the start location, and to Shane Beardsley for the use of his beautiful example of this fascinating motor car.
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My favourite Porsche.
It's aged incredibly. Hard to believe it's a 40 year old car.
No, no, no. The lights when they pop up are so wonky they are wonderful! I love them.
I think I can speak for 928 owners that the lights are part of the happiness the car gives you ... there are something I loved about the car.. my massive regret is selling. I now want another. For me owning a 928 is something you almost can’t put into words...
The headlamps are the main reason, I love this vehicle.
I like the headlights in the up position.... 928 is a very cool looking car
Nut case, the headlights are certainly retro, but today look super awesome in any position
Those headlights are amazing!
Those head lights are more like the eyes of a shark than a frog. Mine look amazing on my black on black 928.
Well done. Agree with most but ... I think the word you are looking to describe the headlights is ... iconic.
I love those headlights!
Very good video, and very well made. I will disagree with you about the headlights though. They are a large part of the 928's space-age styling, and not having them would make the car a lot more mundane. Don't forget the time when this was made. EVERYBODY had pop-up headlights in the late '70's and '80's. Only Porsche could design a truly unique pop-up headlight. That fit right in to their cutting edge design philosophy.
Don't forget the Miura....
That was the only other car aside from the 968 (and a few exclusiv 911's) to get that style of headlight so it is pretty unique.
Of the three hundred plus cars that I have owned, I had three 928’s. Two 1986 S2 5 speeds and a 1990 S4 Automatc. Without any doubt, the best car I have owned, and yes I’d also owned a 911 (wide body) but it didn’t come near the 928 for its speed, handling and sheer driving pleasure.
The torque on these models are amazing. My boyfriend drove 85, mph and made a fast hairpin turn to the left, and the 928 just drive like it was being driven at 35mph, and straight on.
The 928: BEST GT EVER
I've always like the headlights when up.
Best headlights ever... At least they are on my 1987 S4...
I quite the lights but i love that a motoring journo is willing to say they don't like something. Makes a great change. Fair play Paul, great film, keep at it.
Thw lights are beautiful because they are unique. It makes it more adorable. What can be more perfect than something that cares more about function than form and throws it in your face.
This was a dream car for many years. The only flaw--once you accept it's not a full-out sports car--was the dog-leg first gear. One of the best looking cars ever made, perhaps. I now have a '17 F Type which is, perhaps, the 928 of the present day.
I think the lights look so cool.
I absolutely love that car. Think the world was not ready for it.
Dramatic enough? It's Por-shuh, and the headlights look cool when they're up.
Paul, the lights are one of the best features, esp with the nibs alight at night. IMHO
A beautiful frog-eyed monster!
The lights are spectacular. I can not identify with you on that.
It's probably a pretty good VUV when you fold the back seats down. My 924 was.
Best car shape ever penned, Ever,
Gorgeous car.
Love the turbo twist wheels, makes it look so much better (no ugly manhole covers.)
I love the pop up headlights of my 928 S 😎
This is the same color (bronze) as my 1987 Porsche 928.
Nice video Paul. Maybe follow up with a sequence of all the different models through the years? I have owned more than twenty Porsche including several 928's. I believe I was the first person to fit S4 front and read body updating a 1980 928S in 1988. Even the rear wing was an early hinged design. I was also probably the first to backdate a galvanized 3.0SC to a 1973 RS Lightweight replica in 1990 now a fashion adopted by most restomod builders.
I'm on my second 928 and I agree about the night time. But it is what it is. No bad angles in the day.
Nice review....but sorry it is an 80's pop culture icon so the pop up headlights are a must :)
Great film as usual Paul, shame about those awful wheels (that looked pretty bad on the cars they were intended for!) and also the lights are awesome!! I shall give you a light slap next time we meet ;-)
Great video! Thank you for involving me! Watching it back has made me feel like going for a Boxing Day blast in the 928!
Great review!
Paul you deserve so many more views and subs then then this, your videos are at least better then autocar.
Ahhhhhh the first word! It's PorschE with an E at the end.. Arghhh 90% of the english speaking people say it wrong... Best regards from Stuttgart, Germany.
Nice vid. Will your niche be 20+ year old cars? It could work.
Bag over head - Chris Harris in an NB Miata did the same!
Nice review for a great car :)
Nicely done dude!
At least pronounce the manufacturer's name properly. Come on, guy.
Excellent...again :)
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Nice review. Your camera work and production very well done.
Yeah, the lights not a big deal, no one will notice at night anyway.
I driven the car with the headlamps on in broad daylight, just to show off, and make my neighbors more jealous, envious than they already are.
That is my old 928s2 manual
Shouldn't it be pronounced: Porsh-uh nine twenty-eight? Everyone says nine two four, nine four four, nine two eight, but not nine one one. Anyway I like the headlights and the rest of the 928's sort of awkward styling, makes it look more exotic. Those fancy extra electronic bits make for probable gremlin infestation though.
I know. No one says 9-1-1, it's 9-11, so why do they insist it's 9-4-4 and 9-2-8? I'm gonna need an answer on this folk! lol
I'd like a 928 but they're mostly auto's here in US and that's no fun to drive I want the 5 speed and the costs have gone up considerably lately.
nine twenty eight and i'm waiting for porsche to make the "grand"
Ahem, It should be pronounced "Por-shuh neun acht und zwanzig".
@Jay Barker doesnt the 83 use L jetronic computer fuel injection??
I have one 😁😁
Rather pathetic comment re the pop up lights!
john alex It was an opinion, and surprisingly an unpopular one, judging from all the comments here, I actually agree with the presenter, I love the car but I'm really not a fan of those headlights.
The key to the 928 ultimately failing to "reinvent" the GT niche within the market, was the poorly designed engine.
The decision to use the Nikasil bore coating was an attempt to extract an admittedly small percentage of frictional losses, at a price, I consider, too high. The Aluminium liners at almost 20mm thick, limited spacing between bores, thus displacement overall, would be constrained. So, two 20mm liners, add another 20mm for a water passage, and we have gigantic spacing, less displacement. The Jaguar V12 had the same "problem", spacing between bores, inside liner to liner was even worse at about 60mm in between particular bores. The European engineering community just doesn't "get it"....five liters worth of displacement isn't a big engine. look into an American V8 engine & you'll see tried & true Iron liners, only 8-9mm thick, with an obligitory 9mm worth of water passage, making for only 27mm between bores.
The various Japanese motorcycle engineers were keenly aware of space constraints, developing Liter-plus sized engines within tight space constraints...head designs were "shrunk", giant four-valve heads couldn't be done. Look at the physical size of the 928 heads , compare them to the size of the short-block & you'll see the "problem". Each head is almost half the size of the block itself.
GM made a decision when engineering the LS series of V8 engines, by keeping the engines "plain" pushrod style heads, the heads could stay small relative to the short-block...allowing large displacement engines without significantly gaining size.
Ford took the opposing view with the four-valve Coyote engine, by employing all the "tricks" the Japanese used, keeping their Five liter engine very very compact.
Congrats! Your comment is so technically incorrect, after 10 years I'm leaving my first comment.
There was never a Nikasil bore coating from the factory on any 928 engine. There are no liners, the block is Alusil Reynolds 390. The finish step on the bores is to remove a small layer of aluminum, leaving the pistons to float on a silicon crystal bed. That's why a maintained 928 can readily cover 300K miles without a bore job.. I've seen dozens. The 928 block is kinda big because unlike a contemporary Chebby, it's actually strong. Throw 17 PSI and some fuel at a late 80s 928 with the stock block and heads will put down 800+ HP at the wheels. Throw the same at the Chebby and you won't make the HP because the heads flow for shit, and it'll core shift and frag within a minute.
The heads are almost the same size as a 350 Chebby head, I'm looking at both right now on my shelf. In fact, there isn't much overall size difference between a 928 2 valve and a small block Chebby, it's a myth propagated by guys who have never seen a 928, and just want some reason to justify putting a small-block in everything. The 4 Valve is even closer in size since it doesn't have a separate cam tower.
Stick to cocktail parties where people don't know anything. You might fool them.
Leave it to the Germans to try & reinvent the wheel....don't you tire of being the Guinea Pig of engineering when your Eurotechs seem adamant about "reinventing the wheel"...from the Lokasil, Nikasil, etc. & now you have the Alusil !!!, or the Japanese getting into it with their "SCEM", a composite cylinder material....for christsakes, enough with the experimental bore materials...each of these materials, coatings or ?? wind up failing in one way or another. 928motorsports.com sells replacement Iron liners for the Alumisil blocks, why?, If they are so great, why Iron to replace it? Perhaps it is a bazzilion to replace it with an Alumisil version? This outfit mentions bore "stretch" as one possible reason ???
The LS series of V8 can't handle power?...I'd guess you hadn't noticed the likes of nelsonracingengines.com with their 1200HP fully streetable twin-turbo series...At 1200 HP it is the LOWEST powered twin-turbo of the series...it only goes up from there...I'll admit to not knowing the various versions of new materials in engine bores...in my opinion, a pointless exercise...& now you'll have to admit that you know little about the GM LS series...
The 928 motorsports cylinder replacement is regarded by many as a waste of time and money and causes more problems than it fixes. The stock bores are extremely strong and have no problem making power. Plus they can be easily bored and stroked to over 7L, and have been for a while from the stock 5L. They are also capable of making +700hp on a STOCK ENGINE, just add boost. No LS or small block Chevy engine is capable of that besides the LT5 (made by Mercruiser) and other newer engines. Most require new rods, crank, etc to get close to those figures. The bottom end internals of a 928 are all forged, not cheaply cast. Also the bore spacing is nearly identical to a BBC, there isn't any real issue with the size. Porsche just under stressed the engine so it would be reliable to over +300k miles without needing a rebuild, unlike contemporary Chevy engines.
@Jay Barker There is a company in Nevada that does Chevy engine swaps for nearly the entire line of modern Porsches, 911s, 944, 928, etc...They use the old Chevy small-blocks still, but are pushing their LS conversions mostly...The turnkey crate-engine from Edelbrock at 720 Hp, based on the LS3 platform, with a positive displacement Eaton supercharger, with a two-year warranty would do just fine for a 928. This Nevada company, Renegade Hybrids, has been in business a very long time, why is this?, could it be the poor engineering?, mediocre power levels? insane repair costs for Porsches?, I'll contend, all of the above.
Your explanation is so very long😮
Pop up headlights are the worst ever seen : quite a subjective opinion,you need to get in the late 70ies mood to get the point about those headlights.... Not aeradinamic stuff? For sure.
Paper bag?unless you are more charismatic than Clarkson, May and Hammond, no. Or a funny idea turns in pathetic.
Those headlights are amazing!