Yes since Genis is my main, I noticed that too. Unfortunately, only after I had finished my video. Really disappointed, since Cyclone always looked so cool and had a massive AOE. I swear this “remaster”… 😩
@@KortrexArts Cyclone's animation always tanked the framerate in the Gamecube version, so.... I guess that was their "solution" to it? Also, it's water-element for some reason.
yeah I figured this too… Although kinda pathetic if you have to change something from a 20 year old game just so your modern console isn’t going up in flames 🙃 Yeah I noticed that too… it does make the water sound effect when it hits enemies… very strange decision tbh.
This goes right into my feels my dad is & was into gaming, pc gaming. He got 2 games at Walmart for 5€, without knowing these were 10/10 games: Baten Kaitos & Tales of Symphonia for GameCube. I have hopes the game gets fixed development is in progress. Media says. Great video Humor & a save for me to buy it at full price cause of nostalgia. The mirror explode effect is burned into my memories. I had multiple strokes this flickering light fucks me up completely hurting my eyes a lot. This is horror right now on Switch what a bummer. :( Thanks for the information contained. I heard the GameCube code got lost or something & the remaster is build up from the PS2 version which was the version used for PC too which is locked at 30. 😢
Yeah it is a shame what treatment this remaster has received, especially since the original game had such a huge impact on many people. Let's hope they will patch some / most / all of these issues out in the future. Glad you enjoyed the video though. If these things will be patched out, I will definitely do a video on why this game is so special and well beloved, but alas we need to wait for patches now...
Those Twitter statements are such bull. The pop in issues are visible within the first hour of gameplay, the framerate issue at the ruins isn't too far after. It's like alpha testing, never mind beta testing, ever took place. A fundamental retooling is required and a patch here or there won't do. I actually had high hopes anticipating the remaster. The PlayStation iterations downgraded the battle fidelity from 60 fps to 30 fps but that was offset with sooooo much additional content, no one would complain. The PlayStation 3 release even included the sequel to the game! I was hoping to see Bandai Namco release a definitive remaster with the additional content plus a workaround to the battle engine issue... not this sorry excuse for a cash grab.
massively agree. What bugs me even more is that the "Tales of Series" Twitter account stated they would "continue to work on keeping (us) posted on updates while the team works towards resolutions". However, it has been over a month now and they haven't addressed anything else. It is a real shame that they released this half-assed remaster in the first place, but it is even more of a shame that they don't seem to make an effort to actually fix it or at least communicate it. I'm over 100h of playtime, and there is still no update...
I’ve been playing the game now for 70 hours and I’m still having fun despite all the negative points. Let’s just hope the’ll be patched out or something to make the gameplay experience better. But I’m sure you can still enjoy it. It’s my all time favorite game for a reason 😊
@@KortrexArts it’s my all time favourite too lol I remember not being able to read the wind seal text and doing it random for two years!!!! ( the puzzle ) until I got it somehow 😂😂😂
I bought it and I'm not too disappointed since I was never an expert or super huge fan of this game. But I'm curious, is this Tales Chronicles or regular?
Yeah most of the issues are more noticeable for me cause I played it so many times on previous consoles (GC, PS3). No, it is just the base game. Tales of Symphonia Chronicles also included the sequel, which this one doesn't.
you’re welcome. Yeah I think qol is especially important in remasters where it should feel inherently better than the original, which in this case fails miserably… Let’s hope for patches, although I don’t believe these errors can all be patched out tbh
Hello, I loved the video but I have a question regarding the multiplayer. In the game cube version you could play multiplayer, so I wanted to ask if you could also play multiplayer on the nintendo switch? And if so, can you play with one controller or does it have to be with both?
I'm glad I saw that it was on GameCube. Definitely not buying it for the switch. Plus what's really cool to me is that it's in 2 disc. I love buying GameCube games like that. Awesome review and thanks for the warning.
totally agree. I actually also bought an english copy of the gamecube game recently just to have it in English and also cause I like the two discs and cover a lot. Glad you liked the review 😊
Short version: It's an overpriced "shitty" and probably buggy RE-Re-RE-Release... (GameCube; PS2; Chronicles; Switch (FINALLY ACTALLY CALLED REMASTER)) Right? Seriously... Who needs 60 FPS? It makes Battles so damn fast and "unfamiliar" and realy ISNT worth ANOTHER FULL PRICE RE-release... XD IF you realy NEED it... get yourself ANY Version of Chronicles... there you have BOTH Games for ONE price ;)
I'm not happy about this either. I was so happy about this remaster and it's literally an awful port. The game is barely playable but better than nothing I guess. We better get a really great patch that fixes most of the issues. I can't believe I paid $50 for this crap.
I know exactly what you mean! It’s such a shame that this is the second time bandai namco / Tales of have done a port for this game, and they still don’t care about improving the game, or “remastering” the game and the gameplay. Let’s pray for patches for this, but since it has almost been a month with radio silence, I’m less and less hopeful…
Don't worry i bought the PS4 version which i havn't started yet. I am playing my pile of shame right now. I will see someday in the future how well the PS4 version will run on the PS5. If you still worried: I have the Gamecube version aswell with a functional gamecube. Side Note: All this yeah *ALL THIS* has happened only because Bamco lost the Gamecube sourcecode for ToS and has to use the PS2 sourcecode. But it's still funny that the PS3 version runs way better than the Switch version.
As far as I know, they haven’t fixed the PS4 version either. Which is laughable and definitely hurts their trustworthiness for next remakes. But please let me know once you play it on the PS5. And yes I heard that about them losing the Gamecube source code… god if that isn’t just straight up laughable. It’s also funny how the Gamecube version ran MUCH better than the current PS4 / Switch version 🙃
I haven’t buy Tales of symphonia, yet. 😫 However I’m sad it’s the Same design tales of symphonia 2003 in every tales of symphonia it’s always the same design 2003 to 2023 and nothing change. 😞 Still I really wish Tales of symphonia gets remake with Tales of Berseria’s design. Would be really amazing and better. Still I really wish.
Yes it definitely was time for a true remaster / remake. But they didn’t even put a minimum effort into this so I think this is as good as we gonna get for this game in the future 😔
yup. especially since this game takes more than one play-through to 100% complete, which makes sitting through all the cutscenes a bit more tedious. I’m still hopeful for the patches but the more time passes, the more pessimistic I become. 😔
i Love Tales of Symphonia. Hate Remastered. Tales of Symphonia Remake More :/ . i love Tales of Series games old to Remake more. BAD Very too Remastered
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Perfect editing and such a good video!! THANK YOU for pointing all these flows out. The fact that there is not yet a patch is horrible!
Thank you very much for the lovely comment :) . I really tried to step up my editing for this video (which explains the long time it took haha).
"Cyclone" magic animation was replaced with healing wind animation…. ;-;
Yes since Genis is my main, I noticed that too. Unfortunately, only after I had finished my video. Really disappointed, since Cyclone always looked so cool and had a massive AOE. I swear this “remaster”… 😩
@@KortrexArts Cyclone's animation always tanked the framerate in the Gamecube version, so.... I guess that was their "solution" to it?
Also, it's water-element for some reason.
yeah I figured this too… Although kinda pathetic if you have to change something from a 20 year old game just so your modern console isn’t going up in flames 🙃
Yeah I noticed that too… it does make the water sound effect when it hits enemies… very strange decision tbh.
This goes right into my feels my dad is & was into gaming, pc gaming. He got 2 games at Walmart for 5€, without knowing these were 10/10 games: Baten Kaitos & Tales of Symphonia for GameCube. I have hopes the game gets fixed development is in progress. Media says. Great video Humor & a save for me to buy it at full price cause of nostalgia. The mirror explode effect is burned into my memories. I had multiple strokes this flickering light fucks me up completely hurting my eyes a lot. This is horror right now on Switch what a bummer. :( Thanks for the information contained. I heard the GameCube code got lost or something & the remaster is build up from the PS2 version which was the version used for PC too which is locked at 30. 😢
Yeah it is a shame what treatment this remaster has received, especially since the original game had such a huge impact on many people. Let's hope they will patch some / most / all of these issues out in the future. Glad you enjoyed the video though. If these things will be patched out, I will definitely do a video on why this game is so special and well beloved, but alas we need to wait for patches now...
That was hilarious 😂 great review! I played this back when it first came out on the GameCube absolutely a classic
Glad you liked it! 😊 yeah the gamecube version is an absolute gem!
just sad that they call this remaster... I'm sorry you had to suffer through this my friend
I think it is a crime that they label this a remaster…
Let’s hope they’re really fixing this mess and not just some half assed bs like this pile 🙏
Fingers crossed. Judging by the previous remaster they released for the PC of this game, I wouldn't want to lean my head too far out the window...
Those Twitter statements are such bull. The pop in issues are visible within the first hour of gameplay, the framerate issue at the ruins isn't too far after. It's like alpha testing, never mind beta testing, ever took place. A fundamental retooling is required and a patch here or there won't do.
I actually had high hopes anticipating the remaster. The PlayStation iterations downgraded the battle fidelity from 60 fps to 30 fps but that was offset with sooooo much additional content, no one would complain. The PlayStation 3 release even included the sequel to the game! I was hoping to see Bandai Namco release a definitive remaster with the additional content plus a workaround to the battle engine issue... not this sorry excuse for a cash grab.
massively agree. What bugs me even more is that the "Tales of Series" Twitter account stated they would "continue to work on keeping (us) posted on updates while the team works towards resolutions". However, it has been over a month now and they haven't addressed anything else. It is a real shame that they released this half-assed remaster in the first place, but it is even more of a shame that they don't seem to make an effort to actually fix it or at least communicate it. I'm over 100h of playtime, and there is still no update...
Splendid video. Sadly watching on the way to the courier box to pick it up rip
I’ve been playing the game now for 70 hours and I’m still having fun despite all the negative points. Let’s just hope the’ll be patched out or something to make the gameplay experience better. But I’m sure you can still enjoy it. It’s my all time favorite game for a reason 😊
@@KortrexArts it’s my all time favourite too lol I remember not being able to read the wind seal text and doing it random for two years!!!! ( the puzzle ) until I got it somehow 😂😂😂
Metroid Prime just gotten an remastered on the Switch not long ago and it turn out to be amazing. U would think this game would do the same.
I bought it and I'm not too disappointed since I was never an expert or super huge fan of this game. But I'm curious, is this Tales Chronicles or regular?
Yeah most of the issues are more noticeable for me cause I played it so many times on previous consoles (GC, PS3).
No, it is just the base game. Tales of Symphonia Chronicles also included the sequel, which this one doesn't.
@Kortrex guess that's just one more reason to be upset. Tales of Vesperia was the definitive edition
Thanks for the heads up. Qol is.prettu important in modern games, and they evidently fail
you’re welcome. Yeah I think qol is especially important in remasters where it should feel inherently better than the original, which in this case fails miserably… Let’s hope for patches, although I don’t believe these errors can all be patched out tbh
4:01 that’s what I did lol
My eyes burned
Hello, I loved the video but I have a question regarding the multiplayer. In the game cube version you could play multiplayer, so I wanted to ask if you could also play multiplayer on the nintendo switch? And if so, can you play with one controller or does it have to be with both?
I love the way you present this video .
Thank you very much! 😊
I'm glad I saw that it was on GameCube. Definitely not buying it for the switch. Plus what's really cool to me is that it's in 2 disc. I love buying GameCube games like that. Awesome review and thanks for the warning.
totally agree. I actually also bought an english copy of the gamecube game recently just to have it in English and also cause I like the two discs and cover a lot. Glad you liked the review 😊
Tos remasters feel like old ff7 remasters. They will never put any effort into it regardless the legendary reputation of this game.
As unfortunate as it is, I have to agree with you!
Short version: It's an overpriced "shitty" and probably buggy RE-Re-RE-Release... (GameCube; PS2; Chronicles; Switch (FINALLY ACTALLY CALLED REMASTER))
Right? Seriously... Who needs 60 FPS? It makes Battles so damn fast and "unfamiliar" and realy ISNT worth ANOTHER FULL PRICE RE-release... XD
IF you realy NEED it... get yourself ANY Version of Chronicles... there you have BOTH Games for ONE price ;)
I'm not happy about this either. I was so happy about this remaster and it's literally an awful port. The game is barely playable but better than nothing I guess. We better get a really great patch that fixes most of the issues. I can't believe I paid $50 for this crap.
I know exactly what you mean! It’s such a shame that this is the second time bandai namco / Tales of have done a port for this game, and they still don’t care about improving the game, or “remastering” the game and the gameplay. Let’s pray for patches for this, but since it has almost been a month with radio silence, I’m less and less hopeful…
Don't worry i bought the PS4 version which i havn't started yet. I am playing my pile of shame right now. I will see someday in the future how well the PS4 version will run on the PS5.
If you still worried:
I have the Gamecube version aswell with a functional gamecube.
Side Note: All this yeah *ALL THIS* has happened only because Bamco lost the Gamecube sourcecode for ToS and has to use the PS2 sourcecode. But it's still funny that the PS3 version runs way better than the Switch version.
As far as I know, they haven’t fixed the PS4 version either. Which is laughable and definitely hurts their trustworthiness for next remakes. But please let me know once you play it on the PS5.
And yes I heard that about them losing the Gamecube source code… god if that isn’t just straight up laughable. It’s also funny how the Gamecube version ran MUCH better than the current PS4 / Switch version 🙃
if you care about this game as much as you put into this vid i recommend sending a ticket to bandai namco. I been talking with them for 3 weeks.
Did it help at all?
my laptop with intel hd graphics ran this game better than the switch, so sad
Yeah it’s really unacceptable 😔
I haven’t buy Tales of symphonia, yet. 😫 However I’m sad it’s the Same design tales of symphonia 2003 in every tales of symphonia it’s always the same design 2003 to 2023 and nothing change. 😞 Still I really wish Tales of symphonia gets remake with Tales of Berseria’s design. Would be really amazing and better. Still I really wish.
Yes it definitely was time for a true remaster / remake. But they didn’t even put a minimum effort into this so I think this is as good as we gonna get for this game in the future 😔
i see big k i liek
Thanks big B
Yeah this port really sucks, I was hoping you could at least skip ingame cutscenes, but nope only anime ones. And after a month still no fixes 😐
yup. especially since this game takes more than one play-through to 100% complete, which makes sitting through all the cutscenes a bit more tedious. I’m still hopeful for the patches but the more time passes, the more pessimistic I become. 😔
I bought for switch and it's amazing!
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i Love Tales of Symphonia. Hate Remastered. Tales of Symphonia Remake More :/ . i love Tales of Series games old to Remake more. BAD Very too Remastered