Sikhs and Caste - The Truth!
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- Why do some Sikhs believe in Caste? What is the Caste system anyway? Who made it? Follow us on FB (basicsof.sikhi) and twitter @everythings_13 - This video is an excerpt from our weekly English Katha programme at Park Avenue Gurdwara Southall. Basics of Sikhi is a youtube channel to spread Guru's wisdom set up by www.everythings13.org (a registered UK educational charity)
It amazes me how so many Jatts attempt to justify their casteist attitudes by declaring that Jatts are a race and not a caste, hoping that this will allow them to call themselves as Sikhs and Jatts at the same time. Do a simple DNA study on them and they'll realise that they also share genes with Tamils and Bengalis, who are no where near Punjab.
exactly. I'm supposedly a Jatt and recently read a study where the dna of Jatts and Khatris (bhappa) are pretty much identical. Jatts in Punjab are just land owners (mostly uneducated) with a lot of the dna as most of the other caste. Heck even Jassa Singh was a freakin' "jatt." It's all mixed up and serves no purpose anymore.
@@AryaManIndia sahi baat boli aapne...
@A m a r Singg
Those jatts are much more intelligent than you even with your supposed education.
Vedic Indian that’s what you think. But the main thing is if we’re a practising Sikh we shouldn’t care about caste.
Brother, i ask you to devote a little effort, to expose hw these farmers are in active WAR to keep themselves standing on the DIGNITY of 900 million souls,
all AKAAL's creation, as do the BANDITS aka Pundits aka the brahmins, is this GURMUKI?
Guru Gobind Singh had abolished castes after creation of Khalsa in 1699 but people revert to old practices. Teachings of Gurus are against such an thinking !
They rejected the caste system u idiot but they were born into Khatri Caste family .It doesnt matter whether u want to accept it or not ,no one can change the reality.
All the ten Sikh Gurus were Khatris. Guru Nanak was a Bedi, Guru Angad was a Trehan, Guru Amar Das was a Bhalla, and the rest of the Gurus were Sodhis. During the lifetime of the Gurus, most of their major supporters and Sikhs were Khatris.
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In terms of census report of 1931 total Sikh population consists of 66 % Jatts, 12 % Dalits, 8 % Ramgharia/tarkhans, 5 % Aroras, 3 % Kambojs, 2 % Sainis, 2 % Khatris and rest consisted of Rajputs, Brahmins, Ahluwalia/Kalals, Lubanas etc.
Baldev Singh Ji Khatri and Arora are same caste. Bloodline is same.
It's absolutely disgusting our Guru's gave their lives just to eradicate the caste system but sadly it failed
balou333 I agree!
All of the Gurus had the same message to abolish the caste system.
“Don’t be so proud of your caste, class and social status you ignorant fool. So much sin and corruption comes from this pride” - Guru Granth Sahib Ji
@@simmyk1897 Pls tell the pg no. of this, just for reference
Its actually only jatt caste that ruined it and continue to. That why I have pulled away from this culture ...they have lost their way...
Caste system is not Indian. We had flexible varna system. In which one can change varna as per choice. Caste system is European and rigid. Casta is a Portuguese word.
You got it wrong. The gurus gave their lives to protect the brahmin and his janeu in Kashmir as it symbolises sanatana Dharma. A people who were practicing bonded labour till late into the 20 th century are a desecration of the teachings of the great gurus of this land and should do some truly intense soul searching and read the granthis properly. Many of the granths are behaving like mullahs and maulvis and are feeding untruths to improve on their power base
The caste system is poison and has no place in Sikhi. I also wish our Punjabi music will move away from referencing Jatts in every bleeding song.
I don't know how this caste system comes to our Sikh religion and We need to take a very strong stand against it. I already start doing it by saying my last and family name as Singh only and i hope all do the same because our Guru Gobind singh ji gives us Singh name only.
+Meet Prem Singh as I understand the 'singh' or 'kaur' is given at the time of becoming an Amritdhari sikh, one who gives themselves to Guru ji.
Meet Prem Singh i also say my last name is kaur only if somebody ask me
Sabhi movies and songs me... Jatt... Jatt munda.. etc hota h... Spreading castism
Mahavir Singh This is what we need to stop it. Atleast we can start from our side first. I myself stop listening songs or watching movies have the name Jatt. This is so pathetic in our sikh religion. Totally opposite to all our sikh gurus teaching.
ravinder sagoo your understanding is totally wrong. Please read our sikh religion first before believing anything.
Vaheguru - we can avoid caste surnames and bhattras are no longer needed to remain distinct in the west. Khalsa creation ended all caste for Sikhs.
Basics of Sikhi sorry to say but yes caste discrimination is evident in sikhs too and thus ravidassia formed a separate dera and broke off from the mainstream Sikh
Jatt, sikh m sbse bde h kya...nhi to phir punjabi gano m khud ko glorifie kyo krte rhte h....
Theoretically caste ended in sikhism but practically it didnt its all about teh majourity and minority caste actually the majourity dominated and the minority suffers. Its so foolish how people say i am jatt sikh , ramgarhia sikh , ravidasia sikh etc how are we gonna eradivate castism i think its not possible in the near future atleast 1000 years i guess. I think one of the other reasons is songs making jatts sound synonymous to sikh . Its actually a very open neglect to teaching of Guru granth sahib ji.
Rome was not built in a day....similarly Sikhi will take time to establish....so be patient....fun fact: I m a Hindu baniya caste...lol
Even though Guru Nanak Dev Sahib despised the Caste System the Sikhs still observe it to this day sadly.
In india, Even abrahamic faiths Christianity & Islam strongly believes in caste system.
Unfortunately the peaceful people also have discriminatory teachings which cannot be over ruled or challenged under any circumstances for obvious reasons. Surah 9 text 29 is a classic example. Please read and find out
sorry to hear that bhenji, its the job of the Husband to handle his own parents, not leave it to his wife. Tell Mr Singh to be a banda of the Guru.
Listen up..we may have different ancestral/tribal/clan origins (e.g. mine is Bedi, just like Guru Nanak ji), but it does not mean we have a caste or are practising casteism, and should not interfere with the way we deal with each other. We are all humans. Caste is nothing but occupation. If subcontinental people wish to classify us as a caste, then ALL SIKHS are a combination of Brahmin and Kshatriya, because we are all SAINT SOLDIERS. Doesn't matter if their ancestry is Mazhbi, Jatt, Chamar, Tarkhan, Saini etc. To be a Sikh means to be a saint soldier. No Sikh is higher or lower than another.
For instance, this guy, Jagraj Singh Hundal, maybe of a Jatt origin, and I might be of a Bedi Khatri origin, but as Sikhs, we are all equal, no matter how the outside world views us.
Guru Nanak was also from Bedi clan, but he didn't used the word Bedi at once, then why are you using it?
Also Clan and Gotra are two different things. Clan may belong to a single Gotra but Gotra consists of hundreds of different clans.
@@scientificbeekeepersofjammu bedi clan ka gotar kashyap hai suryavanshi
@@AZAD_DIMAG_AZAD_KHYAAL abe bhikmange sikh channel par v aake caste k upar hindu wale chutyapa failane lagte ho
In islam caste system is against islam. But culturally it exists. Culture will always prevail over faith. That's the human behaviour.
Surah 9 text 29
Some evil fools are still living in darkness of the caste system. Jatt is a abbreviation of two words "Zamini Tutoo." Under the false Hindu Caste system, Zamini Tutoos were low caste (shudar) and not allowed in Hindu temples. They begged to enter, but pundits denied them entry to Hindu temples. Then Satgur Baba Nanak came. Satgur eliminated the caste system. Shri Guru Gobind Singh Ji established Sikh Religion and brought equality to all castes. Sikhism brought prosperity and respect to Zamini Tutoos and all other castes. Once Zamini Tutoos became prosper under Sikhism, they became arrogant. "Kuta raj bithaya, murh chuki chute." It is true very few can handle prosperity. Prosperity is the enemy of humility and harbinger of arrogance. Zamini Tutoos began to glorify their caste as Jatt and stabbed Sikhism in the back. My grandfather was a Zamini Tutoo, but he did not care for it. He was content being a Sikh. In 1984, my father also realized that being a Sikh is enough. The false caste will not save us or help us achieve salvation. Salvation is in Guru's word. I have no caste. I spit on the evil caste system.
Zamini Tutoos now say they are not caste, they are tribe(s). That's so dumb. Caste and tribe is the same just as lawyer and attorney, physician and doctor, petrol pump and gas station, custodian and janitor. Today's Zamini Tutoos suffer from severe mental disorder.
Psychological research indicates pride of caste or race is a severe mental disorder.
Extremely low IQ and low self-esteem are the cause of false pride of caste or race. Patient feels his or her group is superior and productive, other groups are not. No patient is born with these feelings. These misleading feelings are implanted in patient's mind by other mentally ill individuals in patient's group. Patient writes, reads or listens to compositions that gives his/her false pride constant boost and justify his/her false feelings of superiority.
Patient feels paranoid, unable to get along with others, isolates himself/herself, becomes sociopath and violent. By himself/herself patient might feel normal, but fear of being rejected by own caste or race causes anxiety to patient and keeps him/her trapped in vicious cycle of false pride. To please the ill in the group, patient conforms to ill group's ill norms and constantly glorifies his/her group's name.
Jo Sikh he usdi jaat nhin, jisdi jaat he oh Sikh nhin. Kde nhin ho skda.
please distinguish from croupted Hindus and the religion please read this before you spread ignorance
ekavarṇama idama pūrvaṃ viśvama āsida yudhiśthira karmakriyāviśesena caturvarṇyama pratiśthitama
Even the distinction between caste and outcaste is artificial and unspiritual. An ancient verse points out that the Brahmin and the outcaste are blood brothers.

antyajo viprajātiśa ca eka eva sahodaraḥ ekayoniprasūtas ca ekasākhena jāyate
In the Mahabharata, Yudhishthira says that it is difficult to find out the cast of persons on account of the mixture of castes. Men beget offspring in all sorts of women. So conduct is the only determining feature of caste according to the sages.
The four-fold order is designed for human evolution. There is nothing absolute about the case system which has changed its character in the process of history. Today it cannot be regarded as anything more than an insistence on a variety of ways in which the social purpose can be carried out. Functional groupings will never be out of date. As for marriages - they will happen among those who belong to more or less the same stage of cultural development
Kalidas, rishi valmiki, ved vyas, vishvamitra, none was brahmin but are the greatest intellectuals of vedic tradition.
Caste is not part of vedas, it is part of indian culture and we can change it.
Varna is part of vedas which is based on actions and attitude and not by birth and see anywhere in the world these 4 varnas are there. And there was no untouchable in vedas. There were criminals like favours, theives murderers et etc who were expelled out of the 4 varnas.
Hinduism caste system is terriosm no one can justify
@Anand Pandey Please don't tell Us. Entire World Know about Manusmirti and Vedas which has cast Systems , Discriminations , Violence, Due to such Varnas JAINISM BUDDHISM SIKHISM and LINGAYATISM came into Existence.. These Religion entirely Banned MANUSMIRTI and VEDAS.. They don't accept neither they follow Vedas and Manusmirti. These Religion have Entirely Abolished Condemn Vedas Manusmirti.. Hindu Religion is basic root cause which failed, Brahmins ( Aryans ) are Mother of Manusmirti Vedas.. Bhrahmins Infected the whole Humanity and true Ancient Culture of Sindhu Civilization.. So please don't make us Fool .
@@Dr_Tesla_ who is manu????
Everywhere Sharmas, Pandeys, Srivastavas drop and talk about how Hinduism doesn't support the caste system and it is very tolerant while in practice they will marry within their caste and constantly spread hatred against Muslims and now even Sikhs.
@@yash-lu7qp जज साहब
im not Indian, but i find this is a good talk.
The Speaker is blindly accusing Hinduism Vedic Scriptures he is speaking about Perversion in society and equating it to Varnashram system and he also spoke many wrong things which have nothing to do with Hinduism . Eg Drug addiction is widespread problem amongst Young Sikh Community so would it be correct to equate it somethy to do with Religion?? Answer is No .
Similarly Casteism is not coming from Scriptures it's simply pervert practices..
According to Lord Krishna, no one is born a brahmana; it's just Qualities and activities ( Guna Karma Vibhgasha )
samo damas tapah saucam
ksantir arjavam eva ca
jnanam vijnanam astikyam
brahma-karma svabhava-jam
“Peacefulness, self control, austerity, purity, tolerance, honesty, knowledge, wisdom, and religiousness these are the natural qualities by which brahmanas work.” Bhagavad-gita 18.42
Our advice practice your Religion honestly don't try to create Fault in others Religions which do not exist ..
One Thing I would like to mention here is , I accept that Caste system is still there in Hindu Society , but u are saying here that "Hindu Scriptures say that Only Brahmins and Khsatriya can attain salvation while others cannot" I find this statement incorrect, I have read Bhagwat Geeta and in that Bhagwan Krishan say that If u have true Bhakti / Devotion of God in your heart than No matter which Caste or class u belong to u can attain salvation , and there is no need of Hard Tapasya if you have true devotion.I can give you references..So please don't misguide ppl regarding Hindu Scriptures which you also are not having Knowledge of
Have you ever read geeta?
Go and read Br Ambedkar book Riddles in Hinduism......he has given many references about a birth based varna system from geeta itself
Geeta strictly says that one's duty is based on ones varna. And his skill is also inherent by his varna.
@@aryanverma5467 Yes, Varna was profession but for salvation it's written in Bhagwat Geeta that a person can attain Moksh by following the Path of Nishkam Karmyog irrespective of his Varna, People of all 4 Varnas can attain Moksha following the path of Karmyog
@@HiddenHistoryofBharatwhy there is no instance of a shudra taking birth in a brahmin family?
This is a general proof ...
@@aryanverma5467 there are so many examples of people transcending the Varna, Neeraj is correct. Why are you referencing the Gita? it's not Shruti? Why would I read Ambedikars book on Hinduism, he rejected Hinduism so his words mean absolutely nothing.
Nonsense!!No where in Hindu scriptures its written that you need to be a Brahmin or a kshatriya To attain salvation.Please read Bhagvad Geeta properly!!
Caste system in Hindu scriptures is not based on birth.
Ved vyasji who compiled Vedas was a fisherwoman's son.
Valmikiji who wrote Ramayana was not a brahmin or a kshatriya.
Karan in mahabharata was not killed when he picked up weapons.
In Bhagvad Geeta also Its is no where mentioned that caste system is on birth.
In vedas there is no where mentioned that to attain mukti You need to be a Brahmin or a kshatriya
I've been reading shrimad bhagavad gita... I haven't completed reading it and was shocked to hear such things this man was saying in this video...thanks for helping me to acknowledge the truth.. Hare krishna
I am Hindu and I can say that the caste system is category of professions for that time, context. People have maliciously incorporated caste into culture / religion. People have distorted religion to their own benefits, so sad. Caste system is unjust and should disappear.
ElGringozable that’s why Guru Nanak dev ji rejected it and sikhi started.
you should know the Gita doesnt talk about a caste system only order.
The Varna system is a core part of Hinduism and was prevalent throughout the world (see 4 noble professions in China, compare Kshatriya code with that of the Samurai, many more examples). It is a part of the Vedas, Prabhu Krishna and Rama were Kshatriya, if you want to make our varna system disappear. You may as well leave Hinduism and become a Sikh extremist, tell lies and turn your back on Dharma.
@@sunilvarma3532 i spit on hindu caste system
There is no discrimination gurudwaras
Nodbody asks in gurudwars the caste of the devotee
@@anupamprasad9645 do you mean the vedic Varna system? if yes, you spit on all of dharma. Who do you think taught the Sikhs
how to fight? if not Kshatriya
wahe guru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh! pa ji i have series of questions , i will go one by one.
1. i was astonished to know that Darbar sahib che jakara ni laundey , why?
2. why in darbar sahib women are not allowed to do kirtan ? khalsa is no gender , then why to distinguish in a prime place of sikh faith.
3. asi parkirma leynna aa guru sahib ji dey around and nishan sahib ji dey around , we go from left to right , why no right o left and why it signifies ?
4. Hajoor sahib che jo bakrey di bali or what ever it is , jo reet chali aa rahi aa , what is your opinion about it.
brother in every religiOn we have to follow the firts is our sacred Schripture.. Guru Granth Sahib. if it is on Our Schripture we follow it. if it againts our Schripture we throw it. todays a lot of parcharek/ giani make their own opinion n own rule..
Some prominent castes among Sikhs are Arora, Khatri, Ramgarhia, Jat, Saini, Kamboh, Mahton, Chhimba, Mohyal , Chamar, etc. Each caste has its sphere of influence and specialization.
The big difference is that sikh scriptures are anti caste system and hindu scriptures are pro caste system.
So its not in our roots. Youngsters are growing out of It I believe with the SGGSji
translation available. People are reading what sikhi really is about & follow Guru.
No brother it is nowhere mentioned in the bhagwat geeta about caste system. Its actually called the "varna"(वर्ण व्यवस्था) but later on it got spoiled. And people started discriminating the lower caste sanatanis(हिन्दू).
@@totalentertainment6853 read geeta properly
Read Br Ambedkar book on Hinduism
He has shown proper proof of geeta supporting the vedas
Geeta has always supported varna system which says your quality is also based on your varna.and every varna has a fixed duty (karma)
@@aryanverma5467 Shut up about Ambedkar, next you'll ask people to read colonialist versions of our great texts with false commentries.
Hey little shit. Don't blame for your shit on Hinduism. First read about Hinduism and then bark. Even your holy book says about upper and lower caste, not ours.
Here is the verse from Bhagwad Geeta on Varna system .
ब्राह्मणक्षत्रियविशां शूद्राणां च परन्तप |
कर्माणि प्रविभक्तानि स्वभावप्रभवैर्गुणै: ||18:41
The duties of the Brahmins, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas, and Shudras-are distributed according to their qualities, in accordance with their guṇas ( ब्राह्मण, क्षत्रिय और वैश्यों के तथा शूद्रों के कर्म स्वभाव से उत्पन्न गुणों द्वारा विभक्त किए गए हैं)
Means Varna system is based on profession decided by gunas which are developed by karma.
But read sggs in ang 1.
ਹੁਕਮੀ ਉਤਮੁ ਨੀਚੁ ਹੁਕਮਿ
हुकमी उतमु नीचु हुकमि
By his(god) command some are high ( higher caste) and some are low (lower caste).
So before barking look at your own scriptures.
Of course my words are bitter but truth.
i agreed with what he was saying, but correct me if im wrong, im pretty sure one of the main reasons, ideas or foundations of Sikhism was to abolish the caste system...?
tazza6789 yes.
No sikh should follow caste system but culture likes to talk about caste and clashes with the Sikh religion.
Nah it was to defend themselves from Mullahs who had ethnically cleansed Hindus from Afghanistan, Pakistan, and soon Punjab with the way the Sikhs are going.
Waheguru, Great explanation!!!
From the Gita,
The emphasis is on guna (aptitude) and karma (function) and not on jaati (birth). The varna or the order to which we belong is independent of sex, birth or breeding. A varna is determined by temperament and vocation - not by birth or heredity.
Read chapter 18
Geeta also says that guna is inherent by ones varna
You guys always make wrong interpretation to mislead dalits
Who determine varna?
Answer? Bhoot?
Its your parents varna.
Even Ram was a by birth kastriya
The voice in starting is very pleasant... I am hindu Brahmin and yes there was so much discrimination in our society when i was a kid all 4 Varna actually treated Dalits/harijan in ver bad way but what i absorb is new generation is changing atleast i can see it... I have been punjab and i founded same pattern with majhabi sikh and dalit sikh they were not treated weel there too ... I hope that one day dream of govind singh ji maharaj will came true and all sanatani castes remove all their differences.
They are still treated better than dalits of up
@@laba3423 mere man ne ya na man ne se hindu muslim ka frk khtm nahi hoga. Qur'an me iski sakth manyi hai ki kisi bhi mushriq,murtad,kafir se dosti karne ki. Aur saf kaha gaya hai jab ap akhliyat me ho to unhe ya to convert karo ya apne state se bahar karo . Mohmmad ke akhri lafz yahi the ki koi bhi mushriq meqqa me Na rahe unhe ya to khatam kr do ya bahar nikal do. Upar likhi sabhi bato ka proof me Qur'an aur shahih Hadiths (bukhari,muslim, dawood) se de sakta hu . Ye problem kisi bhi aur relegion me nahi hai chahe vo jewism, christanism, zorastrian, sikhism ,budhhism, hindusim , Jainism ho. Problem ye nahi hai ki hindu ya sikh muslim ke bare me kya sochta hai problem ye hai ki quran aur hadiths apke aur hamare bare me kya sikhati hai . Muje kisi bhi relegion se koi problem nahi hai sivay us relegion ke jise sbse problem hai . Aur me apko challange de skta hu har chij pr bcz mene unhe khud ke relegion se jada padha hai . Aur aaj hi 30 sikh aur Afghanistan se special flight se aa rahe hai aur ye bat sabit karne ke lie kafi hai upr likhi bato ki gavahi dene k lie . (Kabhi debate krni ho to jarur yad krna )
Castes became rigid because our Gurukulas were destroyed and banned. Open your eyes and see the caste system around you in every human society. Caste system is a universal system of economics which you can't escape. Please stop this ideological non sense against Hinduism.
I'm "Jatt" Sikh; however, Jatt + Sikh equates to caste system, correct?
yes, true. a true sikh does not believe in the caste system.
@@mankind9074 kon bola sikh caste system mai believe nehi karta....khatri sikh or jatt sikh mostly apas mai wedding nehi karta
@@shoo8873 chutiya bihar sikh hater listen up...sikhism is not shrewd like ur BJP nationalist shit, there is no caste system in sikhs, jatt is a race not a caste, go back to ur hanuman chalisa
@@gurbindra1349 Thate very rude i dont know who teach you to hate other religion. You are watching jagraj singh videos yet you have not learned the basics of Sikhism
@@rockingakshay7465 lmao i've seen this "sourav videos" user spew hate on sikhs in other videos, using much more offensive remarks than what I have, this is why I responded like that, otherwise it's cool
Is this guy a Sikh Scholar or does he just make stuff up as he goes along? No wonder Sikhs are so lost. Caste is not the same as Varna (you are confusing with linear Jati system that your masters, the British implemented in India), three of the Varna's are considered Dwij, not two. Then you claim that there are 5 castes, then you say the guru told you to make all 4 varnas into one. 4 and 5 are different numbers. Then that monkey story at the end is made up, based on a real experiment, but you tell it as a half-truth. You should change the title of this video to Sikhs and Caste - Propaganda and half truths
Caste is not rigid.
Shudra is the most skilled Varna. Please stop propagating incorrect information. Noone is upper or lower based on their Caste or Varna + it's Shatriya not khatriya
Guru Nanak, Jesus Christ, The Buddha, Prophet Muhammad, Moses and Lord Krishna all taught the same thing.
Don't be foolish and compare Mo, Jesus or even Nanak to Prabhu Krishna. If they all taught the same thing, why did some religions practice conversion, why did some religions practice extreme violence and mass genocide and other religions have no history of that at all.
I agree, we should not follow the Hindu caste system, but why do people hate on Jatts? We are not a caste.
+lovesikhi You can be a Jatt and Sikh. We are Scythians (Europeans) who follow Sikhism. Simple.
+thejattlord Jatts are Romanian Gypies.Good luck with your OBC Reservation.Poor farmers to poor Gypies.Sudras.Low Caste.
+lovesikhi no mate.Jaats are poor farmers.Romanian Gypies.You are uneducated farmers.Who are you looking down upon.Jaats are fighting for OBC reservation from Mr.Modi.You farming is fcuked ,doing really bad.Jaats are Sudras.Low Caste, working class.Wot so high about jaats.Are proud to be Romanian Gypies.
Sher Jatt
bhai saab sat sri akal
let me remind u of jat history ..
jats were shudra till 17 history .. they were not even on maps.
sikhi made them brave and they still say we did it and never give credit to gurus ..
thats bad.
everyone knows the history its in wikipedia also .. dont try to lie.
regarding tarkhans they are 90 ℅ bearded and keep in line with sikhi ..
they left race history cause they abided to guru and left castiesm . but u people still follow hindu caste system and say proudly we r nt humans like all we r jatts..
hahaha
brahmins gave all shudras funny names like
chamar - chamra worker
Thoka- thokne wala lakdi ka worker and most funny
jatt- jamini tattu
u still proud.
jatts history . lets talk about it
u definately had great warriors .. who never claimed and wandered about like fools saying we r jatts thats why we r brave .
gurus belonged to khatri community and they were one who raised u from that shudra status ..u were not capable of doing that .. if u were . till 17 century you were not slaves under brahmins ..
majhbiz- they were the ones who got title .. rangrete guru ke bete..
not u ..
mirza sahiba .. sassi punnu
bekar bande .. all jatts ..
dont consider this history .. they are vehles.
jatts were so good till 19 century start..
they never were proud coz they knew where they come from ..
but now a days .. a sudden surge has started called jattism
which is nothing but haume
hankaar ..
kps gill . mr brar .. all responsible for 84 harmandir sahib attack .
jatts do it
badals killed punjab .. they are bains.
singers started weopens and drugs.
all jatts.
history history history ..
Suura so pehchnie jo lade deen ke het.
your deen was to consider all equal as you promised gurus when you were slaves and asked gurus for help
ki gal hun bhul ke ehsaan sab ..guru nu ditte wachan bhul gey.. remember jatt sikhs .. sikhs dont have caste..
nothing special about jatts .. just farming bro..really just farmers.. like us all .
do you got six legs .m or you born with bells n whisles..
ja yr kam kr apda
Because of things like your username 😴
A co-worker told me that eastindian boys are discriminating against other eastindian boys based on last name and caste. This is happening in Edmonton Alberta Canada.He asked why students in (Tempo-School) bully other students using their last name and caste.His other question was if caste an issue in Indian society in Canada. I told him it is the singers and song writers, also the film industry of Punjab is also to blame, which promotes caste ideology and a gang culture. it is against Sikhs to practice caste based hate which is nothing less than racism. How can we ask for equality when some of us discriminate based on caste. i am posting this on face book in hopes leaders of Gurdwaras and Sikh schools will discuss this matter of our youth forsaking Sikhism and walking on the the wrong path of discrimination that is caste based. It seems the parents of Sikh boys need to have a discussion with their children as to why Sikhs oppose caste and how dangerous the caste system is and how many lives are lost in India due to caste-discrimination. Another teacher who was a part time military officer in the Canadian Armed Forces also asked me this question many years back in regards to caste hate that is and what Sikhism preaches etc. Sikhs need to be on the guard in regards to our youth on how they are being influenced by caste. If the Sikh community ignores this from leadership and parental levels, this will cause great concern and a threat from within Sikhism. we all know the RSS is always trying to destroy Sikhism via caste ideology, Sikhism is and always will be at war with the idea of caste and caste hate. caste is similar to Nazi or the KKK belief that one human is superior to another human. Sikhs should be concerned with one question how do other non-Indian communities view our youth? Do they view them as a discriminatory group or youth that belong to a people who promote equality for all of humanity
Nav Singh
Racism, lol you are such a dumbass. Comparing your own hindu family to KK and Nazi is a hateful extremist mentality. Dharma will destroy the destroyed, goodbye.
Amazing example at the end, well explained.
These is no caste system in Islam Alhumdulillah.
God looks at one’s actions not their cast to judge an individual.
there is no caste system in sikhism, because sikhism came out of hinduism many sikhs have remnant of hindu caste system.
The original varnashrama system was meant for spiritual progress of society. The modern caste system is a degradation of traditional vedic system of varnashrama where everyone had his prescribed duties to elevate their consciousness.
Fantastic video! How can we change this amongst Sikhs, that's the real struggle.
i want d whaeguru song which a lady sings in d begining of every video plz give d link fr dat...
Vaheguru Simran in the Intro and Outro is how Sikhs chant Gods name. Its performed by Jagdeep Kaur of www.qi-rattan.com. You can download it for free from www.thekdp.com (Jam 2, track 6 = Waheguru Simran).
So much disinformation! The janeu was to initiate the three varna, not just Brahmin and Kshatriya. And the janeu is just a piece of thread, to signify their devotion to the Vedic panth.
Would a Sikh allow a clean shaven man to recite Gurbani in gurdwara, even without wearing a headscarf or turban?
plz make vids in punjabi also....so i can show these to my parents
Much of you said is wrong. Read hindu philosophy before commenting on chatur varnasharam
Sikhism has caste system only because of one reason. The reason is they intermarry with Caste Hindus. As a Sikh we don't believe in caste system but when a Hindu girl came in our home after marriage, things changed. They are biased to certain castes which is evident in their behaviour, subsequently this bias percolate down to next generation and despite borned into Sikh family, their behaviour with other castes remain same.
If we had to stop Casteism in sikhism, we had to stop intermarriages with caste Hindus
muslims have caste too. its an indian problem not only hindu
@@Ryan-jk5xn so are the four noble professions of China Indian, duh. The Varna system is the original archetypes of mankind.
@@sunilvarma3532 what are you saying?
@@Ryan-jk5xn that what you call as the caste system, was a worldwide practice from the Samurai to celtic warriors. It all comes from Kshatriya dharma, which is most definitely Hindu.
@@sunilvarma3532 I already know that but sure
thanks vrg.. :)..it very short but..plz ask d singer to extend the duration.loved d tune.. :)
Very good!! Very well explained and worded..
The foundation and justification of the caste system is the Vedic concept of karmic reincarnation. This is why karmic reincarnation is rejected by Gurū, contrary to common misinterpretations of references to the Vedic “chaurassi lakh joon” in GurBānī.
G K, Gurū Sahib is quite clear that no-one knows what happens before birth and after death. Bhagat Kabīr Ji describes life as an apple that falls from a tree - once it falls, it cannot be reattached. Bhai Gurdās Ji’s vārs open by describing Gurū Nānak Sahib as the one who freed us from
“janam-maran ka bhau” or “fear of reincarnation”.
Because Gurū Sahib is addressing people who understand the world through the Vedic paradigm of “chaurassi lakh joon”, reference is made to it to explain how - without Nām - they will be trapped in such concepts.
Sadly, many Sikh parchāraks divorce pangthis from the wider context, and end up locking in on Vedic or Puranic references and see little else. Thus the _bhāv arth_ (intended meaning) of the lines disappears, and we’re left thinking Sikhi is just one of many branches of Hinduism instead of a total rejection of its tenets.
G K, you are right. No Sikh believes that we are Hindus. Yet it is extraordinary how many Sikhs (including Basics of Sikhi, Nanak Naam, etc.) interpret Sikhi along Hindu lines.
This is because the standard is set by Damdami Taksal, which claims lineage to Baba Deep Singh, and is home to an elite group of “Brahm Gyanis” who they claim were entrusted with the secret “real” knowledge of Sikhi.
Of course, these are just stories. Stories that don’t fit with the democratised spirituality of Gurū Nānak Sahib.
BoS and NN prachaaraks all hail from the Taksal. They consider the unverified writings of the so-called “Dasam Granth” to be GurBānī attributed to Sri Gurū Gobind Singh Ji Maharāj. They use its Hindu ideas as a Rosetta Stone for how to interpret GurBānī.
He obvioulsy didnt read the Gita, to obatain moksh isnt by birth, that is ridiculous and nonsense, that goes against all teachings of the Gita, please read this Sikhs and you will be true Sikhis
Attaining moksha. In the Bhagavad Gita, Lord Krishna tells Arjuna that one should give up everything and surrender to Him, and if one were to do this, moksha is assured. ... He knows that Krishna is the Supreme One, the only One capable of granting moksha
ekavarṇama idama pūrvaṃ viśvama āsida yudhiśthira karmakriyāviśesena caturvarṇyama pratiśthitama
Even the distinction between caste and outcaste is artificial and unspiritual. An ancient verse points out that the Brahmin and the outcaste are blood brothers.

antyajo viprajātiśa ca eka eva sahodaraḥ ekayoniprasūtas ca ekasākhena jāyate
In the Mahabharata, Yudhishthira says that it is difficult to find out the cast of persons on account of the mixture of castes. Men beget offspring in all sorts of women. So conduct is the only determining feature of caste according to the sages.
The four-fold order is designed for human evolution. There is nothing absolute about the case system which has changed its character in the process of history. Today it cannot be regarded as anything more than an insistence on a variety of ways in which the social purpose can be carried out. Functional groupings will never be out of date. As for marriages - they will happen among those who belong to more or less the same stage of cultural development
wdym by read this sikhs and we will be true sikhs??
if ur giving importance to a fantasy wonderland like hanuman krishna i have nothing to say but laugh at u, these are made up stories which the whole world laughs at u for
@@gurbindra1349 do u even know how rapidly sanatam dharma is growing in foreign countries like russia etc...first go and get some knowledge... Fools like u can't understand shri krishna.. U Better read bhagavad gita and gain some human values knowledge
@@gurbindra1349 do u even know how rapidly sanatam dharma is growing in foreign countries like russia etc...first go and get some knowledge... Fools like u can't understand shri krishna.. U Better read bhagavad gita and gain some human values knowledge
thank God I saved my life and my future and my future offspring , castism in sikh , I m shocked , castism in islam I m shocked , even islam has no castism only shiya sunni who are their own believe not cast. bt hinduism influence all religion in india either sikh or muslim to follow cast,
Islam has castes converted hindus follow caste system in islam like tyagi muslim jat muslim rangar muslim etc
Islam par bhi caste haa bro not only Shia and Sunni! Ahmedia, Ismaili, Pathan, Shaikh, Syed, Quershi, aur bhu kitne haa
ua-cam.com/video/x5kby9_qsvA/v-deo.html Check this video casteism in islam. Hinduism, Sikhi, Islam haar religion ke log discrimination karte haa mene suna haa Buddhism me bhi hota haa
I think all are think If I abuse and find mistakes from Sanatan dharm then I am so famous but no one try to know what is Castism and what is varna system
I am Punjabi and Hindu, he is wrong he hasnt read the Gita, the caste system is not linked to the religion, this is BS need stop spreading hate, caste is a english word that doesnt translate to Sanskrit, there is a Varna order, it means order and these professions were based on merit the culture croupted it, anybody can attain moksh it doesnt matter what varna you were born in, please read our texts before you spread nonesense. Jai Sri Ram.
Khatris were never Kshatriyas !
This is a baseless argument given by various Punjabis but -
1. Khatris never had a single kingdom throughout history and have no historic records before Sikhi.
2. The father of Guru Nanak was a humble shopkeeper, not a king or a warrior.
3. Throughout the history of Punjab, it was the Jats who went fighting the invaders, be it Ghazni, Ghori, Taimur or Babar, never khatris.
4. Making Khatri a synonym for Kshatriya just because it rhymes is funny and shows the lack of basic understanding of the history of Punjab.
5. Khatris were always cloth weavers and shopkeepers who had no native home and kept going from one place to another looking for work, in the case of Punjab - becoming shopkeepers in Jat villages.
6. Khatris mostly call themselves Punjabis instead of Khatris but technically they were outsiders to Punjab and are actually found throughout India - Bihar, Tamil Nadu, Gujrat, Maharashtra etc.
7. Rajputs never considered Khatris as Kshatriyas and never had any marriage alliances with Khatris(they never had a royal family)
8. Banias don't consider Khatris as Vaishyas and don't intermarry with them.
Hence Khatris are an Avarna caste and are of mixed origins as their name reflects their occupational history and not race or varna. The word Khatri could have originated from Khaata (book keeping) or Khattar (cloth) occupations.
Jats uplifted SIkhi, not the other way ! Sikhi is nothing but Baman-Bhappa propaganda which propagates the same dumb Vedic and puranic ideas for which innocent Jats fell.
The history of Punjab and Northwest is the history of Buddha, Kushans & Harsha, know your past brothers and sisters !
We were all Shramanas, the people who discovered Dhyan, Samadhi, Yoga, and Ayurveda from which Brahmins learned and then completely destroyed the Shraman culture, the original culture of the subcontinent.
1. Budhha was not a Hindu, but they tried to call him Kshatriyas just like Guru Nanak.
2. Buddhist archaeology pre dates Hindu archaeology by centuries.
3. There is not even a single archaeological evidence of Vedic religion/culture before Christ.
You may research and find out :) Cheers !
Cast system is bad no matter what religion,,, but this proves one thing Hindus are not teh only once to be blamed! even those egalitarian religions also have cats! LOL so why blame Hindus alone
Bcz they like to target hindus..simple
Genius with Guru Mat and Guru ki kirpa;)
This is a slap on the face of those Sikhs who say that there is no discrimination in Sikhism and the caste system has been given by Hinduism.
A verse from Bhagwad Geeta on Varna system.
"The duties of the Brahmins, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas, and Shudras-are distributed according to their qualities, in accordance with their guṇas" 18:41
(हे परंतप! ब्राह्मण, क्षत्रिय और वैश्यों के तथा शूद्रों के कर्म स्वभाव से उत्पन्न गुणों द्वारा विभक्त किए गए हैं )
A line from Shree guru granth sahib.
हुकमी उतमु नीचु हुकमि (ang 1)
By His Command, some are high(upper caste) and some are low(lower caste) .
So simply in Hinduism there is Varna system which is related to profession decided by gunas which are developed by karma but in Sikhism their god decide who will be upper caste and who will be lower caste.
A personal request to all my hindu brothers, whenever someone blame Hinduism for their shit then reply them in their language🙌
Exactly.
This man said that Lower caste will be killed For Changing caste but the truth is Karan was Never killed for pucking up weapons.
Ved vyasji was born out of intercaste Marriage.His mother was a fisherwoman
@@gaurigupta8045 The problem is that we (most hindus) don't have knowledge of our religion , it becomes our habits to listen bad about our religion, If we have knowledge about both religions then we can easily shut up their mouths. We didn't have knowledge that's why Sikhism came into existence. We didn't have knowledge that why Muslims is here in South Asia.
@@laba3423 There are lot of non brahmin priest in hindu temples ,, I have enough knowledge about Hinduism, and I don't have any problems with non brahmin priest. In practically, it's very rare that someone discriminated for their caste , and discrimination among caste also happening in sikh community
Yeah but does anybody follow that guna system
A person claims to be pandit just bcz his fatger is pandit without having the knlwledge of vedas
If it was according gunas why dont u guys declare a sc st obc working in bsf army a rajput bcz his work is of a warrior
Why dont u guys declare a sc st obc a teacher having a teaching job
Hindu system was shit
@@anupamprasad9645 If a system changes from it's original state that doesn't mean that system have problem it's mean those people have problems who changed it and follow it. Now a days varna system is not in practice it's caste system given by constitution so how can we change constitution. If someone ask me if warrior from st/st called as kshatriya ? Definitely My response will be positive. So tell me,, Our background is farming and , Can you please guess my varna?
brilliant... very well explained. thanks
Under the Kakatiya in present day Telanagana we removed the caste system. But unfortunately we couldn’t hold on to our political power. Miri and piri- we didn’t have that.
Bhaji, who sang the simran in the beginning of your video? Can you give a link or something please?
Qi Rattan. I know its 7 yrs late, but someone should have answered you.
@@faithnegator awesome! thank you so much 🙏🏻😊
@@faithnegator This is funny. lol.
bhaji, i cannot find the quote "Chaar varan ik varan karaaon, tabei Gobind Singh naam kahaaun" in punjabi, can you help? where it was cited?
SGGS p1128)
Very nice talk and nice example of experiment...
Your understanding of the Hindu caste system is blatantly wrong.
1. There's not just 4 major types. It's incredibly complex. Some conservative estimates suggest the numbers to be around 3000. Majority of whom do not fall in the 4 major castes mentioned here.
2. Caste is not linked to enlightenment. There is no such religious sanction in Vedas or any authoritative Hindu texts.
3. Varna system in ancient Bharat was linked to work and was not a 'system' for exploitation as suggested here. Many castes which are labeled 'lower' have been integral to the functioning if the society. And do it to this day.
4. Caste is social thing. From a religious POV, there's many paths for enlightenment in Hinduism which have nothing to caste. Including, following of Dharma, Karma, Bhakti, Yoga, Tantra, learning through a Guru, service and many others.
5. The castes have been segregated in higher and lower because of the superimposition of class system imported from the colonials, who saw the caste system as a class system and started favouring one over the others. Including recorded usage of caste movement as an incentive to mobilize sections of Indian society
6. It's becoming an increasingly irrelevant part of modern Hindu religion and society but caste identities will always exist. because caste is not just an exploitative system. It's a legitimate way to preserve vocational knowledge passed from one generation to the other. It's no coincidence that Khashtriyas are good at fighting or baniyas are good with money. They preserve and pass on this knowledge. Those who value these knowledge systems and culture will preserve it anyway.
Who told him that vaishyas and shudras cannot get "mukti" just because they don't wear Janeu ??
" Chaar varan ik varan karaaon "
Why four only?? why not five as you mentioned there are five varan ?
Even the fifth one should also get same opportunities.
***** Where do you classify so called "untouchable people"?
***** More Precisely Human Race should not follow caste system at all.
I love Sikhism and i do follow "Manas Ki Jaat Sabhe Ek Pechaanbo"
69MrBunny I said I follow (not temple or gurudwara) and i don't follow anyone blindly. I can pick whatever i feel good in any religious place.
But i do agree with ur JOKE part!
***** you have written absolutely correct. But tell me where its written that Shudra generation has to be Shudra or Shatriya Sons has to be shatriya.
There is a problem in implementation of theses ideas. Its almost 400 to 500 (from Guru nanak era) and still people get discriminated on the basis on many parameter even though gurwani says "ek noor te sab jag upja".
I request all the religious Sikh teacher to come up with innovative ways to teach, so that people start following Gurwani outside the Gurdwara also. Currently there is some disconnect .
(I am writing this based on my life experience. and not in intention to do debate)
Jatt Sikh is an oxymoron
The hidden genie is in your talk. Caste system is based on an imported notion of this word. Jati was based on the work one did. People learnt the trade within their families. It was easier to learn within the family. If it was so rigid, how could dasyu ratnakar become rishi valmiki. Why did a brahmin give his surname to dalit b r ambedkar as well as another brahmin give his daughter in marriage to him. Jati and varna was the mechanism to distribute power. The brahmin could gain knowledge but could not earn money. The king had all the power but was guided by the brahmin. The vaishya had all the money but did not have power, the shudra was in service and all were dependent on his service. So don't malign the caste system because you want to show sanatana Dharma in bad light. Your rigidity about the gurus book being the most perfect is leading you into an abyss and you can't see the good in the roots of our gurus philosophy. If the caste system was so rigid, how did nanakdev get away with his revolt against the wearing of the janeu. Never forget the story of shri ram and shabri. The caste system became rigid when some greedy , power hungry individuals infected it by making it birth based. You too seem to be on the same journey- using the sanatani gurus to create a powerbase and inflict pain on those very people and culture from whom you have come. Reform but don't be retrograde. You have already started sounding like the Islamists. The gurus will always be ours but your divisive attitude will surely end in more pain for humanity.
Caste based discrimination started with Geeta in which Krishna divided Indian society forever. Then came Manusmriti which reinforced the caste based discrimination started by Krishna.
@@formaniremon1573 you have been taught by ricebag missionaries or leftist gurus. To understand the Gita requires an open mind and a keen intellect and above all the ability to truly want to know the truth. Please find the right interpretation of manusmriti and the Gita. As a beginning please note that there are more than 10 manus and there are many gitas
Well written. Most our Brahmarishis had "no caste". Everyone became Brahmarishis by virtue of their Karma. From Shri Valmiki to Vasishta to Viswamitra , all had different origins. Shri Kirata Naresh Nishadhraj was himself a "Schoolmate" of Shri Rama. All Bharatiyas wore Janeo. Your profession depended on your leaning. Sanatana Dharma came under attack by colonials and now we are here.
@@formaniremon1573 Sorry Sir, please state the exact stanzas from the Shrimad Bhagvad Gita for this. If ANYONE reads the texts they will know there is NO MENTION of Caste. You are just spreading hate to demean Sanatana Dharma which isn't even a religion, and a way of life. Kindly quote the Manusmriti too, we wish to know your sources.
@Indrani Dutta
Your explanation/reply is wonderful. It is an apt reply on the subject.
Most of the things u told were wrong. Clearly shows your low knowledge about caste. Sikhs also have caste system. Irrespective of what gurus said.
Hinduism is a casteist religion with its scriptures not Sikhism. Still caste system is prevalent in Sikhs unfortunately
Bravo!!! A typical JATT response, this farmer is as much sikh as is the BRAHMIN, he reinforces the very system that our GURU'S DIED for, can't you sangat see this???
He is just giving historical information about how caste system came to enforcement.
Hey people ..
As we all knew jats were considered as shudras by pandits ,we were not allowed to enter temple ...thanks to guru Maharaj 🙏...
But if you see if a person back in period was even not allowed to use common public resources ....and now they are reaching new heights .. becoming president (choudhary Charan Singh) and there many more examples ....so I as a Jat I'm proud of my Jat clan even he is Muslim ,sikh,hindu ..even though iam against the rigidity of casteism..but one should be proud of its success ..and so we are ..
Satsri akal ji 🙏
The monkey story is very similar to the Stanford Prison Experiment. That only took 6 days to develop these certain personalties of superiority. I wonder how long it will take to change generations with this upbringing and mentality.
the new gen i think is quite changed, its our parents' gen that is stuck in the mindset, ie im a jatt gurmukh intersted in marrying a singhni of khatri background, but my father disapproves ignoring her merits as a gurmukh all because she isnt jatt, not even old school jatts in Guru's time were like this, for them it was always sikhi first over their caste, Guru Gobind Singh's rules always took precedence over their pride.
basically our community has been brainwashed to think that the caste makes you great, when its sikhi that makes one great. they're using the reputation of sikhs of the past to boast themselves today when they aret even .01% the sikhs the jatts were in the past, this goes for other castes too
How about the Gurus.
actually i've done some reading and learned that khatris, rajputs are also Jatt/jaat. We form the Kshatriya varna/race of ancient india. They are all Jatts, those that moved to cities were called khatris and those that moved to Rajasthan were called Rajputs. Veera Bhadra created from the Jatta (Hair) of Shiva is the progenitor of our race and the first Jatt (the being created from the Jatta of Brahm Gyani Shiva) Veera Bhadra means powerful warrior, he married the many daughers of King Daksha who was one of the first humans in india adn this laid the foundation fo the Jatt and hence Kshatriya Warrior Varna.
khatri, Rajput, jatts/jaats/jatro are the same Varna of Kshatriya, hence they are all Jatts. Jatts who did city work were called Khatri and those that moved to Rajasthan Rajput. But its the same blood.
***** Khatri is brahmin/vaishya,rajput is kshatriya while jatt is shudra.Just because jatts became rich does not make them kshtriya.Will you call mayawati kshtriya tomorrow.
Another amazing video, rip
Caste system is not Indian system. Casta is a Portuguese word. Caste system is rigid and European. Varna system is Indian and flexible and not based on birth.
The Bhat Sikh community is the only community of Sikhs that originated from Inter-Caste marriages between Rajputs, Jats, Gujars, Khatris and Southern Brahmins where they came from in Sri Lanka and Southern India. Other castes dislike Bhats, but if any caste is true in their Sikhism. The Bhat Sikhs are.
Im not Skih but I this was a brilliant analysis the caste system!
Wish more people in India would have this outlook.
Part III -Untouchability & Casteism (Castes) Still EXISTS even Today in India- 2013-..Must Watch It
It was absolute rubbish analysis, full of lies and half-truths. Sikhs are turning to religious extremism, just as the Isha Upanishad predicted.
@@sunilvarma3532
I don't think you even understood what I said. I even provided a video which backs up what I said.
Before discovering this his Channel randomly, I thought and believed as I was told by my parents that Sikhs are warriors of Shri Raam and Shri Krishna. I was told that Khalsa is a Divine army to protect Hindus from Semitic and Atheist evil intentions.
Glad you realised that this is not the truth. Sikhs are warriors of Vaheguru and here to defend everyone from evil intentions. Not just Hindus. TBH, Raam ji and Krishan Ji are also Dharam Yodhe, warriors for justice. Guruji works alongside then but is not their servant.
The leaders of dharam in those yugs were ram chander and Krishna, just like that the Khalsa is the headlamp of dharam in this yug. To worship Khalsa is worshiping God, is worshiping the upholders of dharam in the past. Yes they are all on the same level, Panj pyare Guru Khalsa
Basics of Sikhi Krishna and Ram Chander are actually the same Jot (light) as the Sikh Gurus. Just as the Sikh Gurus are different bodies but same Light, Krishna is also the same light, but different body, plus different Yug. Because there is only 1 Parbraham Akal Narayan. All persons were connected to that One, and hence all are the same. All are also from the Kshatriya Varna as well.
the ancient Dharma or duty of Kshatriyas was to protect the gentle, Kshatriya also means protector of the gentle, the Rajput, Jatt/jaat, and Khatri jatis fall in to the KShatriya varna. Since in SAt Treta and Dwapra Yugs, Brahmins were more bhagats than warriors, ie they did not keep and practice weapons, while Kshatriyas usually did both, so it was the duty of the above jatis to protect the defenseless Brahmin and the defenseless Gau (cow), hence Khalsa was also known as Gau Greeb da rakha (protector of the defenseless cow and the poor). Majority of Sikhs are also from the Kshatriya varna. ParsuRam Brahmin is an exception as he is a powerful warrior trained by Akali Shiva of Kailash
***** I disagree with you. My points are supported by Guru Granth Sahib, Dasam Granth Sahib, Bhai Gurdas Ji's varan, and Kalgidhar Chamatkar. Instead of reflexively calling someone a RSS agent, why don't you actually read those texts and find out the objective knowledge on your own. Majority of Sikhs today simply regurgitate what parchariks tell them without proper verification from the actual Dharam Granths. The SGPC is most responsible for this Hindu Sikh divide today, they were implemented as a puppet govt by the British to divide our people when in reality there is no difference between Hinduism or Sikhism. There was no Hindu Sikh divide during the times of our Gurus.
Very interesting! Thank you.
Hindu Religion me Cast Systems hai and bht Discrimination hai, that's why Sikhism came in to Existence, Sikhism has EQUALITY.. But now I came to know that their is cast system in Sikhism also, Ravidasiya mahizab Dalit sikhs etc.. But Guru Gobind Dev ji ne sabko apna and barabar samjha tha.. phir ye sab kyu. Sun k bht dukh hua ki isme bhi Hindu Religion jaisa hai.. I think JAINISM LINGAYATISM and BUDDHISM is best where their is no cast System. Every one is Treated equally.. People in Sikhism should treat people Equally, as Equality is the basis of this religion..Guru dev ji aaj hote to unhe bht dukh hota .
In sikhi people are treated equally but the 'sikh caste system' that he was talking about was one that is falsely fabricated by non-practicing sikhs
Let's get rid of common misconceptions. Caste is more a cultural thing - sadly South Asia is poor for social mobility. Casteism exists in India REGARDLESS of religion. Ofc, Islam or Christianity or Sikhism may not teach caste but they exist in India. Look at the Ashrafs, Ajlafs, Arzals in Islam. Look at how the Church doesn't allow dalit Christians to be buried with High caste Christians. I'm not defending caste discrimination in India but I don't buy this misconception that it's just Sanatana Dharma and all other faiths are holy. Humans are humans, they will look for ways to divide and discriminate. You'll see that in basically every society - this was the situation in France prior to the French revolution, Russia prior to the Russian revolution, South Africa prior to the fall of Apartheid (the legacy still remains), the USA prior to the end of segregation (again, legacy)
This guy is talking utter rubbish. Mukti in Hinduism aas never assured to brahmins n khastriyas. In Hinduism, it is based on karma. Even an untouchable can get mukti if his karma is good. It is shocking how some ignorant Sikhs try to distort Hinduism and sikhism
Right mam
Well said Madam.
Khatri is not khastriya
Khatri belongs to khastriya before 19 th century . Now khatri is like bania ,. a vaishya Varna becoz khatri adopted business in Pakistan Punjab , after the fall of Arora empire 🔥🔥 And me too belongs to khatri becoz my I'm a business man , if I am in army than I am a khastriya , if I am a teacher than I am brahmin ... So in Hinduism. Casteism is basically on qualities that person have ....
Sikhi is truth
If that is true then why isn't a Dalit hindu who serves in Army given a caste of khastriya ?
@@formaniremon1573 becoz in modern era......caste depend on birth not profession...in Vedic time. ...caste on profession...and this is mentioned in geeta
Bhai khatri shuru se khatriya cast hai
If guru Gobind Singh ji say this 4 caste ko ek karne kii baat and I also respect all 10 gurus but I don't understand if sikhs against caste then why they support in indian constitution so many caste or posts in india
Such as Prime Minister, home minister. Ias, IPS, hawaldar, peon,
Lawyer, etc
And I have one more question can ias officer go hawaldar house for dinner and can hawaldar go ias officer level party
Also not letting your girls married in muslims also comes from same mentality ( see the recent case in kashmir )
sir wrong .... Hindus never had caste system ...but varna vyavastha. Which is totalllyyyy different what had happened. You're forgetting India was under rule for 1000 years and a lot of wrong ideas were spread.
Excellent video, everyone should watch. Feel really sad that im going through problems with my marriage due to caste his parents just wont agree because he supposedly belong to a high case compared to my family :-( ,
Very nice explanation; but from exp I have notice major diff in common values of people in diff cast systems. I know most of you say no it depends on person to person. But I believe that when you stay in the circle of your cast system you also adopt some of the values (good or bad) And when you interact/marry with other cast you will have conflict. I hope this change in future, and we mix a lot more under one God,so that this cast system totally disappear But we got long way to go
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sir, with due respect. as you said in previous videos Hindu is not a religion. so question raised, who are we. people who believe in righteousness are discoverer. which can not be vanished called "SANATAN DHARMA". who keep himself busy in discovering the path of righteousness.
Geeta says there are four kind of class. the brhamin, shatriya,vasheya,shudra respectively. firstly there is not 5th class defined so plz don't misguide people sir. secondly Geeta says one can attain supremecy through their actions.
Now question comes who is brhamin.
Brhamin is not a person who born in brhamin family. brhamin itself define the meaning which is educated, a person having knowledge.
who is shatriya??
A person who is good warrior but should not get angry on any one bcz of personal rivalry. violence should be done by a warrior when it comes to the Society's benefit and proved fruitful in good way for them .
veshy??
who is good in business.
shudra??
having no education and warrior skill and nor know business but can attain all the above mentioned class through his actions.
people misinterpreted the things and spread wrong message.
+Vikas Panchal The Gurus made a Sikh who does the roles of all four castes... and you forgot to mention that there are untouchables, who are outside the caste system and therefore they are the fifth
+Basics of Sikhi sir, it's 3:50 am in india. m still watching videos of u instead of reading my book bcz I thought u and I have some diff opinions.
I know about Sikhs bcz being a part of India and specially frm Haryana m frndly with our culture.
just answer one qury of mine sir??
why did the Dr. B.R. Ambedkar refused to be a Sikh? And converted to Buddhism.
I will be happy to know thanx :)
+Vikas Panchal Dr. Ambedkar met people who might've been the false representatives - as there are with any religion. (But who am I to judge, and what do I know?) Buddhism was a predilection of his for a long time - he had studied it for a long time. Everyone has their own choice brother, but we are all one people. Have a nice life!
Bro u r right.. but our society doesnt believe that. according to vedas any one can become brahmin khatri or vaishya depends on his deeds. But we only believe that brahmin only could be a brahmin son. vaishya son couldnt be brahmin..
If you study the texts you will find that there is no difference in Hinduism or Sikhism. They are the same thing. Hindu is more a geographic definition which means simply means resident of the land of Hind, or hind vasi, or simply Hindu. Sikh means student. Even in Sanatan Dharma, it was customary to become Shishya of the Sat Guru, Shishya also means student and Sikh is a simplified form of Shishya. There is no difference between Sri Krishna, or Sri Ram Chander, or the Sikh Gurus today in Kal Yug. I say this as an Amrit Dhari, most of this confusion has been caused by so called preachers who do this to confuse others.
There was no caste system in Sanatan Dharma, aka Hinduism. It was Varna, means colour, to differentiate between different types of jobs.. The word caste is from Portuguese, meaning class. It was brought in India by the British to divide and rule. Sudra means service providers. There were Sudra kings too. Still today certain people particularly in the police, military, nurses, cleaners etcetera wear uniforms of different colours. There were no untouchables. If you think untouchability is bad, please take a look at what was done during COVID breakouts. 2 m apart is untouchability in action similar to ones shadow should not fall on another. Not shaking hands too is untouchability.. If some people were considered untouchables because they were doing dangerous jobs and developed immunity to certain diseases. Touching them could be physically dangerous for one who does not do such jobs and has no immunity. Even my own mother made her untouchable after doing some cleaning chores and not let us touch her before she took a bath. I teach in a university in London, UK. I have never seen a professor or other people shaking hands with a cleaner. This is for own survival not hatred to the other. The cleaners and security people wear different uniforms. But lecturers, professors etcetera do not wear uniforms unless in a lab all wear lab coats, gloves, goggles etcetera to mitigate against potential dangers.
So the caste bhatra whats is it ??
Very insightful, I'm not fully educated on the caste system can someone explain a bit more please?
Best to ask a knowledgeable Hindu, the Sikhs just make stuff up as they go along.
@@sunilvarma3532 Best is to follow religion of love and compassion and general common sense...
Also although sikhs dont practise it openly but internally they do it
That's when seek man aproval to worship God, when you follow man made religions.
Wahe Guru Ji kaa Khalsa, Wahe Guru Ji ki Fatah.
I am a Bharatiyaa an Indian in English. I am a Sanaatarni a Hindu.
I liked the effort done by the man in video to stop caste system. But, I would like him to read more about Hinduism. There is nothing like caste in Hinduism, SC , ST, OBC are terms injected by westerns in society through constitution they made while ruling us. In Hinduism we talk about Varn system which was based and practise by trade. And Varn could be change if wanted. But, by various foreign influence and evil in society malpractice of Caste came in.
And I really felt sad that a Sikh is putting himself apart from Raam and Krishan. And apart from me.
A Sikh is best away from Ram and Krishan. We don't believe in them.
Shri Manpreet Jee read GRANTH SAHIB
Varun Sharma really jatipratha created by whom?
With all due respects, The so called caste system exists because the society is feudal in nature. Neither is India nor punjab industrialized. Yes India has some industries but large parts of the economy are still feudal. As long as their is no industrialization, the so called caste system will not go away. Do you know that around 30% of so called low caste punjabis own less than 5% of the agricultural land in Punjab ? The only way to bridge this divide is by industrializing, build infrastructure, schools etc and level the playing field so that everybody gets a fair opportunities.
Thinking ones better than their brothers or sisters... it’s called PRIDE ..!!!
PRIDE comes before a fall. Having too much pride or confidence will cause one to make mistakes that lead to a setback or failure. The phrase is adapted from a verse in the book of Proverbs in the Bible: "Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall."
Be humble u humans
I think also some hindus from ``low casts`` are afraid that their `gods`` might get angry and punish them if they leave hinduism = supertition, thats why many stay in hinduism out of fear
Nothing like thay exists...a lot of hindus are converted to christianity ....its absolutely their wish ....we hindus never demand others to follow hinduism ...its his\her personal choice to wether convert or not
And yes...i belong to that so called lower castes u have mentioned ...#dalits and a hindu
need to be educated .. just read the books of pro Gurnam Singh Mukatsar.. he introduced 8 edition then u can get the exact and correct information .. don't spread wrong information ... In a Sikhism there is no jattism .. stop it ..
It is no where written in the Hindu Shastras that only the Brahmins and Kshatriyas will get Mukti, I can quote the Upanishad if you want. It says some thing very different.
ANY BODY BELIEVE OR NOT BUT THIS IS TRUTH BY JEANS DNA ACTUALLY ALSO WE WERE HINDU WE ARE HINDU WE WILL REMAIN HINDU THAT'S WHY THIS CAST SYSTEM IS IN OUR BLOOD
he didnt explain his caste?
** to edit.....khalsa has no gender.
Caste system is not rigid. Today there are people from all backgrounds, white, afro Caribbean, Chinese training up to be priests and have been doing it for decades. A carpenter only begets carpenter children doesn't sound logical does it? Or a doctor's son/daughter will also have a natural interest in medicine so will also end up as doctors, not logical. Today children from all backgrounds are choosing various careers which are totally different from their ancestors. Also, there's no mention of why there are different types of characteristics among all human beings....not everyone will take an interest in studying medicine or engineering or carpentry...hope you understand my point? You also didn't mention the role karma plays in any humans life while discussing this topic.
Casteism can't and should not be justified, rest to say glorifying it or seeking some lame excuses. A gurudwara is a gurudwara not that a majibian da gurudwara or a jattan da gurudwara. I am simply straight on this.
caste was never meant to rigid jagraj always ignores this fact in the vedas