Should we eat meat? Brunel Sikh Soc - Q&A #7
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Q&A session following the talk at Brunel Uni Sikh Soc - see "Sikhi in English" Playlist. Question was Should we eat meat? Also covers ethics in all food. We will also share more videos in the near future of this on going topic of whether we should eat meat or not.
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As vegan , I’m truly thankful for this effort you guys are doing to spread the truth. Always protecting the innocent.
You Sikhs motivate me to look for righteousness, I thank you all! ❤️
I am pure vegetarian and I love animals.and I appreciate your thoughts.
You're welcome 😊
global education maybe give up dairy too
@@Ba1ster dairy wouldn't be a problem until and unless we consume what remaining of the milk after the calf's belly full. And all this process should be natural. No intentional breeding of cattle for the dairy.
vishal shalivahanas the problem is that’s not what happens. The calfs get taken away always days from being born. Male calf is slaughtered as he has no use and female calf is bought up to be just like her mother. By the age of 5-6 the mother doesn’t produce milk anymore so is killed for food. This is the normal practice in the uk. Breaks my heart
Wow, Sikhi is really a intelligent way of life! I havent eaten any meat, milk or eggs for severeal years now. Very inspirational Basics of Sikhs, you make very good points!
Tim Nordin milk? What's wrong with it?
iOS vs anroid nothing wrong with milk some vegans dont consume animal products at all doesn't mean something wrong with it!
you are master okk. But it is useful. What kind of person looks like who doesn't consume milk.
@@newworldorder7727 The milk production is extremely tied to meat production.
And milk isn't good for your body.
U can drink milk... It's good. And don't harm animal..u will feel cow as ur 2nd mother
Great! Sikhism and other Indian religions are the true 'religions of peace and compassion'.
These are not religions
Mind it😠😠
True. We indians developed all religions that are based on sanatan dharm.
Hinduism Buddhism Sikhism and Jainism!
Check up on the caste system and say that again...
@@NicklasForesti i know what u wana say but those caste system is not even mention on ved its created by some people .just like jatts and all in sikhims
@@NicklasForesti my friend cast system is a social problem not religious and that's why, in it is in sikkh religion too..all religions of indian land is going through this problem ....
My dad told me when he was young in India, they had like 10 cows and they had babies and stuff as well, and they walked in the grassy fields and ate and roamed like regular cows, and then they got milked, and then back to their ordinary life, now the cows and stuff are tied up, and in western countries, they are in cages and stuff now, veganism is now a legitimate thing because of this, cows should live lives like that, horses as well should be able to live and be with their owner, I hope you get this comment
YTN Gillz good point
concept of karma and dharma is truth.
followed in jainism, buddhism and hinduism too.
Even Sikhism has that brother.
@Gyanii Jeev Guru Nanak Dev Ji did not copied anything from anywhere. He get this concept directly from god. All of sikhi was given by god.
@Gyanii Jeev
All of the sikhi is from waheguru and it was all truth before the beginning of time only people were not aware of it.
Guruji rejected janehu when he was given to wear in his childhood, he rejected caste system, he rejected idol worship. Hindus were doing all these things which he find wrong. He did not copied anything he knew what is right and what is wrong directly from god. The thing that is truth was always truth before the beginning of this universe and will always stay truth after the end of this universe.
Because of your ignorance you dont want to accept the truth. Truth will always remain truth and was always the truth.
@Gyanii Jeev Sikhism has 3 pillars.
1. Bhakti
2. Righteous living
3. Seva
Dharma and karma are part of righteous living. They have same name because punjabi has lot of words from hindi and urdu.
Righteous living is not started by Hinduism it was always there before Hinduism.
@Gyanii Jeev what you are saying does not make any sense. Hindus believe that god exists and Christian also believe god exists. So Christians copy it from Hinduism?
This was something really informative. I am from a Hindu family. But I am a very frequent visitor to Gurudwara near by my home. What ever you guys are doing by educating the world about Sikhism is really appreciable. My Sikh friends please don't mind my further comment. I don't see this type of knowledge, compassion and welcome from the Gurudwaras near by my home. I am not pointing at anyone. Just want to say that all the Gurudwaras should have such an awareness programme and knowledge which should welcome people to know more about Sikhism. Please let me know if you guys have your online forum. I would definitely like to sign in for it.
+ponda16 thanks ji, we are on facebook.com/everythings13.basicsofsikhi
I stopped eating meat after watching this
Two years later, I pray you've stuck with your convictions.
Paramdeep Grewal maybe that’s all the beard he can grow we shouldn’t judge so quick I have Singh friends that can’t grow a beard by nature but are Amrit shak let’s just be more mindful that’s all :)
ਕਬੀਰ ਭਾਂਗ ਮਾਛੁਲੀ ਸੁਰਾ ਪਾਨਿ ਜੋ ਜੋ ਪ੍ਰਾਨੀ ਖਾਂਹਿ ॥ ਤੀਰਥ ਬਰਤ ਨੇਮ ਕੀਏ ਤੇ ਸਭੈ ਰਸਾਤਲਿ ਜਾਂਹਿ ॥੨੩੩॥ {ਪੰਨਾ 1377}
ਨੋਟ
Very proud of you
Good
after my husband left my daughter and me i had to find work quickly so i had to work in a slaughterhouse. There i have seen the brutality and cruelty to the animals. And i have seen they indeed use the meat that has laid on the floor all day to be used in saugages. I have been able to work in a different job but that nightmare will never leave me. So please listen to him and stop eating meat
Thanks for telling your experience to people...Appreciate
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thanks for telling.
@C̊ůC̊ůM̊b̊O̊.̊ and u stop bhooshiting
I've always liked and respected the Sikh religion.
gingermavy . these type of people are called stupid in GurSikhi, GurSikhi is all about knowing and connecting back to True/definite/absulote non -relative Identity of Lord and rational thinking and life style derived from it.
ALL freeTV
You are stupid because you don't know what are requirements to meet god
And compassion is the first requirement
Thanks
Make the video about chicken
Then leave milk and milk's by product. Milk is juice of animal bones and is for its neo natal not for human. Drinking Milk has two sins - 1. You drink milk, which is not for you. i.e. - milk is for baby animal/ calf
2. Milk is juice of bones and it is very painful method to squeeze the breast for milk.
It's just a stupid things to argue what is flesh and what's not.
Try to focus on meditation, choose path what guruji has told, follow Guru Granth Sahib and leave all these myths.
If meat eating is wrong, leave it to the God for justice. You guys have to follow the path and your karma is with you. Leave these nonsense arguments.
I miss Jagraj - the world 🌎 has lost a very special and unique person- Sikhism is the Truth ❤️ 🙏🙏
Experiencing bliss, peace and waheguru, all other tastes are forgotten.
Dairy is equally Cruel.
@@girishmaru3732 not comparatively
@@girishmaru3732 neither
I really wish we had more people and schools like these where our generations would actually learn valuable things.
this guy makes me cry with truth and humour
ricky stephens Deftones are sick
so nice to hear this - If you have compassion you are lucky. If you are not compassionate, you are NOT lucky.
Hope all sikhs and all others understand this and implement this !!
I'm loving Sikhs more as I am finding out more about their religion. The needing meat for protein is a myth. We don't need protein as such, it's all the essential amino acids we need and our body makes proteins from that. Everything has amino acids in. There are vegan strong men, cage fighters and bodybuilders. I've been living a vegan lifestyle for over 8 years now and I feel so healthy, fit and strong and have loads of stamina to do kung fu and weights. Anyway, I like the Sikh philosophy. I've seen so much hatred from muslims in particular around the world and this is so refreshing compared to always seeing that dominating the news every day.
Tyy and Respect to u too🙏
Btw Sikhs r different Religion than Muslims.
If you need more help ask me as well and read gurbani with English translation i start my channel vegetarian and vegan recipe
Great video Thankyou :) I have been veggie for 20 years and don't kill anything
You do kill a lot of plants dear.
Gurjot Singh
I wish you had studied science in primary school
Plants and animals are different
Animals are way more conscious than plants
Furthermore, animals feel way more pain than plants for which pain quotient is negligible
Go and enlighten yourself
@@greatgirl6013 haha I wish you were a science studient. Plants are living things they are different from animals there perception are different. Humans are having small and large intestines they are made to eat meat and vegetables
@@hope2251 yes
You are not going to change the world, you are just missing out on lots of yummy food
You cannot kill anything compassionately.
+Jessica Lauren Touche!
+Jessica Lauren Well said. Truth in some way : ) It is a tough topic. Though in Sikhi, as mentioned in the video, the warrior Sikhs ate meat through the 'Jhatka' way, which is less painful, one strike, one blow, causing minimum pain, which in that respect showing some compassion to the animal? Only God knows best.
what if you're killing out of mercy? To end suffering of something or someone in severe pain, with injuries they won't recover from?
yes you can , the only way is jhatka. one shot and the brain is dosconnected
J Krish Now you are verbally threatening Mr. Randhawa with mere words (still hold weight even though verbally). He has every right to defend himself in self-defence. As a last resort, he may pick up the sword, if you continue to threaten and strike. The true warriors over time have had to defend (fight/kill) themselves as a last resort, compassionately to serve and protect their loved ones, their faith for justice and truth.
Sikhs are not Hindus.
but our relations is like brothers
Adarsh Jaiswal WHAT???
Gurpreet Kaur
we are brother
absolutely !! Sikhism treats everyone like our brothers and sisters. =)
there is a wide difference .... when there two different religion both cannot be right .
no but we can all agree to live and let others live in peace. family members don't always agree but at the end of the day it doesn't matter.
I'm a Hindu and I respect the simple sublime teachings of Sikhism, after all, all the Indian religions preach peace and brotherhood, may that b Sikhism, Hinduism, Buddhism or Jainism.
We are brothers.
@@ਹੁਕਮ islam , yahudi and christian are ibrahim religions . These 3 accept hazrat ibrahim . They are some contact ech other . Their birth land is same .
And hindu sikh jain baudh are same culture . Birth land is same ( hindustan ).
@@pravinmakwana8367 not Hindustan bro India/Bharath
@@khalsaikhajana9980 yes we should call it bharat only
@@khalsaikhajana9980 yes bharat sounds good.
Bhai ji I am a vegetarian and I am really proud of it and I am so happy that my beloved Gurus have also suggested about being compassionate and vegetarianism is one of the many ways of being one. Bhai you're doing a great selfless job by passing on such beautiful teachings to people. I wish I could hug you for doing this lovely service. May Waheguru bless you always!
killing an animal in front of an infant. the infant would ask why. fresh and innocent to this world the infant teaches us.
Paaji if u can make it in punjabi... i wanted to show n spread this in punjab. Please make one in punjabi
It ll help many ppl paaji🙏
Jass why dont you do something rather than telling them to do it
Make one in Hindi too ! Many need to know.
@@mikesheth77 he sadly passed away
@@tavsingh5204 He passed away? How wtf?
@@SherinFunmes he passed away more than 3 yrs ago
I stopped eating meat after watching this video.
Jatinder Flora and what u eat.......... only vegetarian........ but for ur kind information plants also are living things.........to tell them is ok
Jatinder Flora u should also stop eating veg because plants are also living things
jaspal singh plants are also living creature and they are also created by same GOD who create animals and all thing.......... whats about plant
jaspal singh hahhahaha...............ur argument have no sense bro........ first correct ur info...... dont b fool
shuaib ahsan plant's are living 😂🙄 do they move that's not a life
God is seeing everyone who are doing cruelity with innocent animals🙁😔
@Samim Suhail then live your life
when i was a child my parents used to tell me about compassion, ethnicity and karma. When i grew up people from society asks why is my lifestyle like that because there is a big misconception that sikh people drinks and eats meat and in most of the cases today they actually does but thats not because of any compulsion its because of the addiction that you get from meat and alcohol so i go upto those people and teach them about the same ethnicity that this video highlights
Same same
bro you are doing a great job...spread this beautiful message of guru nanak dev ji...
@@AbhishekSharma-tz7be ❤️
How about the current commercial practice of keeping the cow mother almost continually pregnant to get her milk thereby drastically shortening her life and also have her constantly suffering during that shortened life?
In India, in punjab, the society where I am living, when cows show some signs which means that they want intimacy , only then they are undergone the process of getting pregnancy.
I dont know whether I used Appropriate words to explain my point or not , but hope you would understand my point.
When love for duality wells up we become attached to duality.
We receive the intelligence as bestowed by waheguru.
Finally someone who’s explained this properly 🙏🏽 Thanks bother
wow! This man is articulate and very pursuasive... Thank you sir! Mkaes me want to be a Sikh!
So he is saying the religion gave no clear command on whether meat is allowed or not and that convinces you? Covered up by saying "Sikhism wants you to think"? Then why not just not give any rules about anything and just let people think? Sikhism said it opposed Islam because of rituals in Islam etc...but God put those rituals as symbols and specific acts of worship...then sikhism invented its own rituals! ANd what was the true religion before sikhism? Sikhism starts with the first guru, how can the true religion only start in India a few hundred years ago, what happens to all the people before that? Sikhism is a spin off of hinduism i.e. religions in india (as hindusim was not one religion) and then under the influence of deviant sufi Islam in India, sikhism adopted some monotheist ideas and anti-caste ideas from Islam, but mainstained a lot of their hindu beliefs and terminology but adopted some terms from Islam from Arabic e.g. 'khalsa' etc.
did you pass away
@@ZaydDepaorshutup you coper lmao
I whole heartedly do not agree with the statement that you've made concerning the matter that meat can be consumed if it is for an ethical reason (martial/warrior,moral,etc...). I do not know how people cannot see that it is clearly written in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji that meat is not meant for a Sikh, Why would we eat the dead and sully our temple (our body). We should make our Gurus into role models and follow in their footsteps (not saying that we should become Gurus). When we take Amrit we should keep our phanda (body) clean before taking it, you don't want to pour Amrit into a dirty phanda.
This is my interpretation of bani, if I was put into a situation of starvation I will use bani as my feed, if it was a military situation I'll use bani as my strength because bani is the only food we should starve/strive for;vegetarianism is the first step into becoming a Sikh. Also I am pretty sure Singhs back in the day did not consume meat, they were saintly/warrior men they lived for bani and followed the Guru. On that final note our Guru does not give us riddles to solve, if you take your time bani will explain itself, I find it mind boggling that people are still fighting over answers when they are right in front of us.
P.S If someone does not agree with me please don't reply back with a heinous message, I find it extremely interesting how Sikhs these days interpret Guru Ji. Also I am not here to tell people that you are wrong, you can do whatever you like because in the end of the day I don't know whose right and whose wrong only Waheguru does.
(I humbly apologize if I have offended someone with my opinion)
Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa Wahe Guru Ji Ki Fathe
Sorry but you are TOTALLY incorrect. This silly meat argument is total hippy rubbish, a massive childish non-issue that needs to be nipped in the bud.
Guru Nanak HIMSELF was known to have gone to a festival in Kurekshetra and bought and cooked meat (either Venison or Goat) and eaten it with his followers. He was criticized by the Brahmins for doing so, and he LAUGHED at their hypocrisy (their ignorance of exploitation around them or caused because of them) and silly superstitious notions of 'meat/flesh pollution'.
"The fools argue about flesh and meat, but they know nothing about meditation and spiritual wisdom." - SGGS Ang 1289
Guru Hargobind and Guru Gobind were AVID warriors and hunters. Surely they would have cooked and eaten whatever wild game it is they caught and not wasted any of it?
The Nihangs eat meat (which they raise and slaughter themselves). The Singhs living in the forests/mountains/desert fighting Guerilla Wars against the Mughals would have eaten meat. Even the Akal Takht said it's fine to eat meat.
The ONLY limit is that the meat must be Jhatka (killed in one blow), and Halal (Kutha) is forbidden for good reason.
Now WHO am I meant to believe? Them or you?
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Do you know what OTHER current religion demands you be vegetarian? HINDUISM! Why are you telling Sikhs to follow Hindu practices? What's next? No meat on Tuesdays and Sundays? I've heard that one too! Maybe we should start bowing to rocks as well.
Sorry, I am not a Hindu. I am a Sikh and I follow my Guru's example. That means I can eat meat if I CHOOSE to do so.
However if YOU PERSONALLY wish to remain vegetarian and it makes it easier for you to sleep at night. I can totally respect that. I ask that you respect my position also.
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That said Jagraj paji is totally right that in the Western world pretty much everything we eat has been industrialized, mutated, shortcutted for maximum profit and is plagued with disgusting unethical practices.
Even being a VEGAN wouldn't solve that problem. How much deforestation and the destruction of animal habitats, how much land pollution in the form of fertilizers and insecticides (which is just poison and can easily kill humans if ingested) has been caused?
Fact is we are ALL guilty in some respect, and if you aren't farming your own food you have no idea how ethical it is.
The ONLY REAL solution is to push for laws that FORCE better ethical treatment of animals and regular checks on these meat plants. For example, there is no logical reason Male chicks need to be thrown away just because they grow 'slightly slower'.
As Sikhs we should be at the FOREFRONT of these kinds of politics. Making fundamentally positive changes happen. Not faking moral indignation to give us a pathetic sense of superiority... Brahmin style.
King0Jingaling You are entitled to your opinion, do whatever makes you happy, I am not here to make lives miserable. Also according my knowledge bank there is no recorded history of any Guru eating meat (if so please do link me your "sources", also make sure is not from a biased site). I would also like to apologize to you because I did not read your thesis ( I stopped right when you claimed that Guru Nanak Dev Ji ate meat (no proof)) it did not sit well with my beliefs.
P.S When you are citating Guru Ji make sure what it means ( don't plaster passages without explaining yourself). Also please don't ever start your debate by saying the other is totally wrong it, it makes you sound desperate and that you are trying force your idea on others, also like I said before we don't know whose right or wrong only God knows ( you have no rights to tell me that I am wrong ).
P.P.S When you address yourself to another fellow Sikh please start with a fathe, don't go on saying that you're a Sikh when can't even address yourself properly. Just this has shown me that you have a lot of hunkaar.
I will leave you with a question, what do you call a butcher and what do you call a holy man?
www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Guru_Granth_Sahib_on_meat read this, it will explain itself (read the shabads)
WaheGuru Ji Ka Khalsa WaheGuru Ji Ki Fathe
superflexist I CLEARLY stated that you are entitled to your opinion on meat and whether you wish to eat it or not, sadly you never read that far. I do not mean to be TOO confrontational, but your opinion displays arrogance and ignorance of the facts. You're even talking about 'ritual purity' there!
You reply to my post without even reading my arguments? That's hardly admirable behaviour in itself, you're merely shutting down debate with that attitude. It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it after all. Please read my entire reply.
Here are sources telling of Guru Ji (and more) eating meat:
www.sikhs.org/meat_au.htm
www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Guru_Nanak_in_Kurukshetra
This is one of Guru Nanak's most well known Sakhi's (stories), you as a Sikh should be aware of this history. The passage of SGGS I cited (Ang 1289) is DIRECTLY related to this story.
I said you are wrong because from my perspective you clearly are. Telling people to 'read Gurbani harder' and somehow we'll magically come to the same conclusion as you is AT BEST... INCREDIBLY ELITIST. You offer no evidence to support this assertion.
A debate revolves around FACTS, and I have provided them for you. Either you must properly debunk them or you have to accept the fact that Sikhs CAN eat meat and take that knowledge with you.
Now in my PERSONAL opinion, those Sikhs who are against ALL Sikhs eating meat on principle are merely pendalling a ridiculous unintelligent HINDU mindset (I've seen it before) and usually won't listen to anyones points on the matter. I hope very much this is not the case with you.
And since you asked for it friend.
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh
King0Jingaling Thank you for answering a minute portion of my paragraph and thank you for not answering the rest of it. Also I don't need to read your text to see where you are going, with only your intro I could make an idea about what you are going to talk about.
Please read before you make a reference: your whole argument is in shambles now :/ ( I read the whole text ) it's the king who wanted to eat meat not Guru Ji and this is the part where he transforms the meat into rice pudding.
"The Miracle that happened at that time has also been recorded. When everybody accepted his teaching and became his disciples, then the guru asked the people to open the cooking pot and eat and when it was opened then they found it was full of sweet rice pudding! all the pundits of various sects and the ordinary pepole ate sweet rice. Great guru nanak has come to liberate people from the cycle of births and deaths in this un - enlightened era of Kalyug. The guru advice to the pundits is repeated once the incessant remembrance of the lord." www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Guru_Nanak_in_Kurukshetra
Just to make things straight Sikh.Org is known as a extremely biased site and on top of that it barely has any references whatsoever. Please do your research before portray your smarts. If you actually read the passages on sikhiwiki that I have linked, you will see that Guru Ji is opposed to mass. You say that I talk about ritual, please point that out. Is Jhatka not a ritual? Just to make things clear, I have no arrogance or ignorance when I clearly state "in the end of the day I don't know whose right and whose wrong only Waheguru does." don't start naming people when you can't even back yourself up, you are digging your own grave.
P.S Guru Granth Saib Ji is not random book written by a random Bob, its written by our Guru, so yes it does take a lot of attention,time and dedication to read/understand it. Tell me can you understand God so easily if so please start your own religion where we can all eat meat.
P.S.S I don't read texts from people who've been humbled by their own arguments and paradoxes..
(Also please stop writing in caps it makes you look unprofessional)
superflexist Next time you go to the Mandir friend, please ding the bell once more for me! :P
You claim I am unprofessional (on UA-cam no less!), but you outright admit that you refuse to read my argument? That's utter hypocrisy. You'd be laughed out of a real debate!
I KNOW exactly what the article says (hence why I linked it), why would I bother hiding anything from you? Unlike you am I well aware of ALL the facts and arguments, whereas you bury your head in the dirt and only pick and choose what suits you.
It's called CONFIRMATION BIAS. You suffer from it. Badly.
The Sikhs.Org article has A LOT MORE REFERENCES than the Sikhiwiki article! How can it be more bias? So you're wrong there too. Nice try though. Better luck next time.
Criticizing the site instead of dealing with the argument? That's low. That doesn't sound very SIKH-LIKE to me. Such arrogance...
I'm glad you DID read the whole article, unlike my post which is too hard for you I guess?
The Sakhi (which you didn't even know existed) has many various versions, and the idea that it ended in a miracle where the meat turns into rice pudding is ONE of them. Doesn't that ALSO suggest that in the eyes of Guru Ji, meat and rice pudding are totally interchangeable?
And are you denying that Guru Nanak DID indeed cook meat for himself and his followers? What if the Brahmins never showed up, would it still have turned into rice pudding? Bhai Mardana was a Muslim and surely WOULD have eaten meat?
In this version Guru Ji transformed it into rice pudding only to ACCOMMODATE the Brahmins. Just like how a Gurdwara serves only Vegetarian food to accommodate ALL religions.
There is NO difference. ONLY preference.
Once again:
"The fools argue about flesh and meat, but they know nothing about meditation and spiritual wisdom." - SGGS Ang 1289
Hahaha, you claim that JHATKA is a ritual? Have you lost it? Tell that to the Nihangs. I'm sure that'll go well!
The technical term 'Jhatka' merely means 'quick kill' or 'single blow'. It is applied to BOTH the Sikh way of killing animals for food AND Sikh Martial Arts (Shastarvidiya). It is the most humane way of ending life. But I don't expect you to know that...
So far you have only made the most feeble ATTEMPTS to tackle my facts on Guru Nanak. What about the rest?
Do you deny that Guru Gobind and Guru Hargobind were hunters? Do you deny their actions?
Do you deny that the Sikhs of old ate meat? Do you deny that Nihangs eat meat?
That's some funny Sikh history you got there mate. And very disrespectful. Our history (Itihaas) is CRITICAL to us, and you trying to change it for your own benefit is DISGUSTING. Just stop.
I don't need to start a new religion, but I'm sure that one as practical as Sikhi MAY NOT be the right one for you because you do not strike me as a practical person.
The SGGS was designed for ALL Sikhs to be able to read it and understand it as long as they put in the effort.
Obviously you must be some AMAZINGLY HIGHLY DEVELOPED Maha-Purakh and you don't need facts to win an argument! Only your feelings.
Like I said, for people like you there's always Hinduism. You have billions of idols to choose from. Go nuts.
Also, stop writing P.S. This is UA-cam. You are not writing a letter.
Boy do I like this man. The way animals are treated this is so heartbreaking. What is wrong with people. Our teeth were designed for vegetables, seeds, nuts and fruits.
It's great that you are telling people the reality of meat they eat. Good job brother, I am not anyone to tell people to stop eating meat or not, but being a vegetarian when I see any animal starving or in bad condition or being killed then it hurts a lot, but the thing is that only I can not stop this cruelty, because people like to eat meat. So, these innocent creatures have to face cruelty.
Thank you for sharing this!! So few people are following these truths, let alone speaking up about these truths. Wahe Guru!!
Thank you for this video and meaningful words. I am Tuscarora (American Indian) and in my people's language, we have a phrase, "Yuʔtikę́hra·t." In modern times it has come to mean "It makes sense," but in ancient times (and its literal meaning) it means "It has a mind of its' own." This is the word we used to describe the animal people to indicate that they are sentient beings who have lives and emotions similar to ours.
How great of you to keep your culture alive? I have massive respect for you ❤️
I dont know this man,but his ideas are absolutely correct.
when i was 8 years old, i went veggie spontaneously. i did it because i could feel the lethargy, brain-fog and i sensed that it was pollutant. at home, i continued to eat dairy but after leaving home at 17, i would go shopping for food and return home with plants. just plants. now i am middle aged and grateful about this aspect of my life.
Jugraag veer, I have the same views that you shared in this video. Everything you said is true and in accordance with principles of Sikhi.
You want to sit in the fence and hence unable to give a definite answer!
You can’t wriggle out of answering the question
He didn't sit on the fence he just gave an answer suggesting you use your mind and morals and look more deeply at the question
@Billy Blanco huh?
@@amarjitjalif1828 islamists here to prove that Islam is the only religion on every video they jump and start commenting this. if they believe it is so then they should be content and go to paradise as promised by them.
People who say being vegetarian makes you weak should go to punjab and haryana and see the average vegetarian people there. They work on fields, drink fresh organic milk from their own cows who live naturally and eat simple dal roti and fresh vegetables off their fields
Such an elaborative way to explain your point maintaining the boundaries of gurbani. So impressive. We need this kind of Sikh dharam pracharak nowadays. Please keep doing this great work for humanity.😊👍🙏
the sad reality of the meat eating world.
I've had an difficult time stopping. every time I do eat meat, I become aware of my addiction to it.
My country is home to buddha, mahavir, ram, Shiva, guru Nanaketc and many more! Proud indian!
Actually Guru nanak was born in Pakistan and died in Pakistan!
Buddha was born in Lumbini, Nepal. Please straighten your facts.
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today's (pak , nepal, afganistan , myanmar , some part of china ) were the part of india for decades
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@Akilles97
today's (pak , nepal, afganistan , myanmar , some part of china ) were the part of india for decades
@@monaganani8090 India as a union and a single country was born in 1947; even the name India is given by the British. Nepal was never a British colony; let alone India. Check your facts again, mate. Majority of Nepalese and Indians follow the same religion; other than that, we have nothing in common.
Wahe Guru
Ek Onkar Satnam
IM SO shook, i haven't heard or seen this much information bout this and i been a pescatarian for 10 years! thank you!!!!!!!1
Thank you for this info
It has opened my eyes
No more dairy or eggs for me.
Actually if your look to China at the warriors practicing martial arts like Kung Fu, they are vegetarians. Even my current modern body builders have achieved phenomenal mass with a plant based diet. The point therefore is a warrior can sustain his strength without meat or milk in his diet. But yes, if you are in a circumstance where you have absolutely no choice like no food available and you have a job to do that is above your own self interest, then and only then it may be a valid reason.
+Greymist 75 the things that the nihang singhs did, kung fu is nothing infront of that. the chinese warriors did not starve for months and won wars. they did not go to war with 42 soldiers and beat an army of 5 million. So the criteria you are judging them on is very weak
+BullZZie Modern Day Sikhs should NOT eat meat. We have the resources and supplements to live a healthy lifestyle while not supporting animal suffering.
yea did i say that they do? i was talking about back in the day.
Greymist 75 the old gladiators also used to be vegetarian. But when you talk of Chinese martial artists being veg that’s usually because of religion. The masters that live in cities usually do eat meat. I used to know a Shaolin monk that was full veg. Moved to London started eating meat, got married and put on LOADS of weight.
आपकी बात मुझे बिल्कुल अच्छी लगती है आपने जो कहा है मुझे स्वामी विवेकानंद के वचन स्मरण में आ जाता है उन्होंने कहा था कि किसी भी जीव को मारकर खाना एक कुकर्म है गलत काम है हमें केवल युद्ध में या आप जब कोई खिलाड़ी हो जिसमें शारीरिक शक्ति की बहुत अधिक आवश्यकता है तभी हमें मांस भक्षण करना चाहिए वह भी तब जब आपके पास रसायनिक तरीके से निर्माण करने का दूसरा विकल्प ना हो .love you pazi .I totally agree with you on this issue same thing said by our beloved hindu sanyasi swami vivekanda.dont kill innocent animal .
"If it's normal food, why can't they show us how it's made?" Well said. Love this dude's t-shirt. :)
I am a Hindu... but I fell like I'm a sikhi inside...
So familier to.my religion.... ❤👌
About vegetarian practice, clear rules are mentioned in vedas that reflect in Sikh teachings. U can only eat meat when u have nothing else. This is strictly mentioned in Rig Veda. But , sadly 99.9% hindu people of India have not read vedas. And thus eat meat whenever they like.
Damn it, more and more I like those Sikhs ;)
Hindu and Sikh are same blood brother we are of same family and place . I always admire the Sikh religion for their bravery and I am delighted to hear your thoughts on meat eating आपकी गल सुन के साड्डा दिल खुश हो गया जो बोले सो निहाल सत श्री अकाल वाहेगुरु जी का खालसा वाहे गुरु की फतेह
sir whenever i come to ur channel i feel peace ,the way u explain is amazing.
I must have been sikhi in last life. I think very alike like sikh brother.
I really love what you are doing mate. It would be great If your videos were available in Punjabi language too. Educate Indian Sikhs too. Great work brother!
Not only teach Indian Sikhs but also to South Indian Hindus
May waheguru bless you soul.. you were one the best in this time and age 🙏 sadly our time with you was very limited.
Good Message 🙏🙏🙏
Non compassion will cause war and war only. Same way I feel by bursting crackers we terrorise animals,birds hence in turn we suffer from problem of terrorism in country. Every action has reaction.
Best Explanation!!!
Jagraj Singh was a Diamond 🙏
What happened to jagraj?
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no one should kill animals they have right to live and breath in the environment in which you are living..
+Kunal Khurana dont kill plants they have the right grow in the environment...
animals have brains and nerves and they feel the pain when you cut them! while plants have no brains etc so it's justified!
sammy ALEXIS
killing a plant is less harmful than killing a animal .. no ?
bcoz we hv emotional attachment with animals .. we can feel their pain
I am a student of class 10 and from india. Eating non veg is okay... in my family and we can eat egg, fish, and chicken only. I personally hate non veg a lot. But i am forced by my parents to eat non veg. They said that our health becomes really bad and we get various types of illness if we do not eat non veg food. We rarely eat chicken. I ate chicken only two times in my whole life. I just hate the brutal behaviour of the animal killers. I live in a muslim country so the meat that is sold here is halal. It makes me more frightened to think how the animal would have felt. In our family we mostly eat fish and eggs. I still feel bad eating fish and feel more bad eating an egg because it is like killing a baby before taking birth properly.🙁😣
Those baby chicks :'(
iluvsmokeythecat23 , awwww same here ....
I’m sad :/
Very good videos. I'm learning all I can about Sikh culture and these videos help very much. Thank you.
Sikh is a religion, Punjabi is a culture/language.
(This doesn't mean only punjabi can be sikhs or sikhism only belongs to Punjab)
i love this guy and his videos!
keep up the good work brother
tooo tooo good It was just grt bro...
Brillant! compassionate eating makes so much sense.
I m brahmin but getting in lov with him
brilliantly explained. Thank you very much Khalsa ji
nerve for pain is also cut.Bro through spinal cord brain gets all signals and its attached during halal slaughter.Thats why halal slaughter causes painful death.Our Gurus knew what it is. So follow guru sahib ji
I like the way he rejected halal meat.😁😂😂😂😂😂🤣
EKAM CR7 why spread hate on a religious page? Bad karma
It's not about halal or jhatka, fundamental thing is that u should not eat meat in the first place.
He didnt.Sikhi rejects it.
@Gyanii Jeev there is not hindusim in your vedas and geeta hinduism word is coming from Islam 🤣🤣🤣
@Gyanii Jeev bro it is not copy acha ik bat tu khud soch hum dono ka dhram india mai start hua hai jab hmara dhram bana tha tum hmare guru ji agar koi hor word use karte like in hinduism there is word karma agar hum koi hor rkhte toh bhoot hi confusion hoti and... Tune kha ki 80 percent copy hai bhai tu manta nhi hai ki tumhare dhram mai sach bhi likha hai vedas mai kyuki agar hmare vale bani likhe gai mtlb the reality of world and life toh dono ka same hona toh banta hi hai or in your dhram their is word use that is sanatan dharm means one creator or in our their is work ik onkar meaning dono ka same hai ab iska mtlb hmme tum me se cheating thodi ki hai joh sach hai toh hai
I strongly agree and admire Bhai Sahab’s views and the way he explained the topic
everyone here is stuck on small things, that they don't focus on the big picture. Do what you feel is right don't do what others say. Seek guidance but dont get confused in the process. It is more important to be a good citizen of this planet and a role model to others than to worry about what you eat. dont force others to do what you think is right nor blindly follow others. do your own research and make decisions based on that. Let others do what they want. above all respect everyone and their decisions, sure you can question them or show them a different way but never say that they are wrong or be rude like what j have been seeing in this comment section.
Parmeet Singh Sikhs consider eating meat to be a bad thing because we should also treat animals with the same love and kindness we show to humans
U WOT M8 but other animals eat meat no one cares then and God is the one that made them so....
Parmeet Singh they eat meat because that's what they are supposed to do, they evolved in a way which meat is essential to whether they live or not, the guru doesn't teach animals and they cannot reach god in their form, he tells us humans to not eat meat
U WOT M8 can u tell me even one example in which the guru has told us not to eat meat
Parmeet Singh he just said in the video they don't recommend it
Whenever I have urges to eat meat I come here to set my mind right.
I'm new to this page. How do you feel about the dairy industry. Milk, yogurt, and butter? I know dairy is a big part of the Punjabi diet. Dairy cows are so exploited.
Due you understand Punjabi....?? If you understand then go to the you tube channel "empee" sant ranjeet Singh dhandriwala he logically explains About meat and veg . you will also get your answer there...and yes more clearly then this video
Our modern lifestyle of convenience and vice is consuming way too much water and resources. The amount of water required to factory raise animals, make alcohol and sodas and the tons of water used daily for technology in the form of chips and cooling of cloud servers is astonishing. Reduce and eliminate addiction to consumption of everything.
you've also said about the dairy industry....and you've done well!!!
i wish we all be vegans in the future...and take b12 supplement until something else is found.
but in my loval gurudwara the prasad is with ghee...!!!
ghee is clarified animal butter...!!!!
I think that they use vegan ghee
Mashwinie Soebedar you mean margarinne?
in india thhey use ghee...so where i live in koropi as far as i know.
sikhs are lacto vegetarians.
Fishers Dad Thanks for the information bro. I've been looking for a natural source of B12 for so long..
Matthew T there is veGan butter for your information
Ghee is made from milk fat its not non-veg. Milk fat that form on top of the milk after we boil it. We take that milk fat whip it make it butter like heat it(for a certain amount of time)melt it that will give you Gheo(Ghee is in hindi in punjabi we call it gheo) as liquid and another solid by product which I am not sure how to translate it to english.
Conclusion :- Sikhism has nothing to do with cow's meat or pork......any human being or Sikhs are allowed to meat from any animal including cow or pork....... Guru maharaj & Bhagats never told what to eat and what not eat..... correct me if I'm wrong.....as far as I know I never seen any such thing on Shri Guru Granth Sahib about eating or not eating.
No guru gobind Singh condemned eating cows
@@hope2251 is it? Where’s it written??? Waiting for your message
@@magicmusic2077 yes in uggradanti
it is mentioned in Shri Guru Granth sahib but the meat their refers to anything that has been prepared by the exploitation of people be it vegetables or cruelty on animals as mass which is not recommended.
animal meat was allowed only when Sikhs were less in number to the tyrant forces and carrying pulses milk panner soya every was a task then guru sahib allowed jhatka to be performed.
meat for mere taste is not advised.
i love guru nanak ji. gr8st soul
Very logical fact . Good teaching .
I love the song in the start and the end of your clips. Where can I listen to the whole thing? :)
Thank you
It is called Waheguru Simran or Waheguru Chant and Sikhs chant it when they meditate.
There is video on UA-cam of same chanting named
"' Waheguru Simran by Jagdeep Kaur intro/outro of Basics of Sikhi"
You can search it.
Hope it helps
Waheguru
Here is link to that video ua-cam.com/video/EIhKjLm4A1Q/v-deo.html
Thanks
What about Inuit in the Arctic where they have no option but meat, walrus etc etc ??? They can't grow anything.
ਇਹ ਤੁਹਾਡੇ ਦੁਆਰਾ ਦੱਸਿਆ ਗਿਆ “ਦਇਆ” ਅਤੇ “ਨਿਆਂ” ਦਾ ਵਿਚਾਰ ਅਤੇ ਇੱਕ ਰੱਬ ਦੇ ਮਾਰਗ ਨਾਲ ਸਬੰਧਤ ਸ਼ਾਕਾਹਾਰੀ ਹੋਣਾ ਬਹੁਤ ਹੀ ਹੈਰਾਨਕੁੰਨ ਹੈ। ਇਹ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਇੰਨੀ ਸ਼ਾਨ ਨਾਲ਼ ਅਤੇ ਸਪੱਸ਼ਟ ਤਰੀਕੇ ਨਾਲ਼ ਜੋੜੇ ਗਏ ਹਨ
great teachings of sikhism
Okay, if u have Brian Than why do u follow a guru have said or done? Use u own Brian and take decisions which is good for u...
5:27 I am a Sikh who believes in the Guru’s principle of Jhatka meat, the original Khalsa form of meat. I love and respect you Bhai Saab. And I was vegetarian for a whole year, before realising I could do it. Try me, I would
There is nothing like Jhatka meat. When there is nothing for you to eat, THEN and only THEN you are permitted to eat meat. I am a Sikh and f*ck this jhatka meat ideology. Why does everyone want to justify their obsession with meat ?
So do you now eat jhatka ?
@@RamanSingh-zo5hf There is a jhatka meat ... we even have a granth called jhatka parkash ... Jhatka has been mentioned in oldest sikh historical granth Gurbilas patshahi 10 by Sukha Singh written in 1740 ... Dont spread your maanmatt here
@@jasdeepsingh2658still you cannot eat it for the sake of taste.If conditions are too svere ,only then.
I'm atheist, but I have masses of respect for this speech
Thank you brother. You are not biased. You are a true followere of gurus. Jai gurunanak dev ji.
This is the best video I have ever seen! I am glad that I've become a vegan for 4 months!
and down here u will find people fighting over animals rights while they cant care less about human lives bravo humans
That is quite similar to what Hindu Dharma and Bhagvat Gita says.
Unfortunately majority of sikhs and even sub-majority of Hindus don't follow this path of righteousness and compassion.
In Punjab all siks of all different castes were strong not just jatts...
Shouldn't mention castes as guru said we are all equal and there is no caste ...
Meat has a lot of protein which you wont find in any other diet specially beef has certain kind of Protein which no food has.
waheguru,thank for all this information
I'm a Christian. I respect Sikhs and their dharam. Humans have the element of compassion in them. Use it. Jesus says " Do to others as you would want them to do to you " In my opinion others included ANIMALS as well.
Truly Spiritually enlightened human, no matter, which religion, caste, or faith, will NOT eat meat. I have struggled very hard to give up meat eating. Finally I succeeded six months ago when I told myself " It's better to die than to eat an animal"
After that i never ate meat. I'm a vegetarian now. Praise God and all holy men who told us not to eat meat. Including the teacher here 🙏
After I gave up meat eating, I completely lost my anger, and love in me increased . My lil testimony 🙏
I am growing closer to the Sikh mindset, but one thing... I can't eat soy, so tofu is out of the question for me, and it's hard to get protein without some dairy.
The belief in what God is, what we are, what our goal in life is, how to live well and better our souls, etc.
You can still have milk and cheese, but aim for organic. There is lots of protein in beans and vegetables like brocolli and caulflower
marinate your tofu, thats what i do with masala, kala loon and haldi it'll look like scrambled eggs but tastes way better
Don't follow this bullshit faith
why say that????? this is what Sikhs believe don't watch if u are going to comment like that
One can always buy grass-fed organic meat from the local farmer's market.
Veganism should be the lifestyle of every sikh
*Paa ji you are very urgently needed here in India 😭🙏*
Sadly he is no longer with us
WHAT ?
Proud of Sikhi after this introspection. If only we knew what we do !!!
I live in australia, have no idea about sikhism etc, but i liked some things you said. im also a poor uni student who cant afford special meat at 4x the price, nor the time to even cook/prepare stuff really, nor do i really know any vegetarian meals and dont know appropriate meals which provide correct nutrients etc to substitute meat. I do however have lots of excuses and after watching, i will try and be more conscious
is organic milk taken from cows not tortured, singhs live off milk, but how can a singh drink the milk of a tortured animal. I hope organic milk is taken form cows treated more humanely
In olden times ,cows were fed grass in open fields ,they got pregnant naturally and even if a male calf was born they were not sent off to the butcher but taken care of until death or given to someone else because in those times male cows were used for farming instead of tractors ,they were in use.
I am a Muslim eat all not allow to consume meat of pig .
God almighty
I have always thought of it this way, a bear is a vegetarian, yet they are a dozen times stronger than a man.
A bear is an omnivore - it would prefer to eat an animal to berries. A better example would be a horse or rhino that is an herbivore. Bear will eat anything - even you!
Even better eg would be an elephant
Nice eye opening video. It's sad but true ;(