I consider this witness one for the prosecution not the defense. This guy felt betrayed and enraged that he had to pay out of his own pockets to cover the millions of dollars that he stole. You can tell he more than likely thinks he did it. He helped the prosecution not the defense.
Oh I agree. But it is a far cry away from murdering his loved ones. So that in itself bothers me as there is more focus on money and not the actual killing of them. A lot of people lie and steal. Doesn't say/prove murder.
@meggieoneill7084 True, but Alex also lied to this witness about being in the dog kennels minutes before murder. So Alex didn't just lie about money to this witness, but also about his alibi. That's what makes it a lot more important.
They all have received financial compensation from the sale of The hunting lodge and kennels. Except for Stephen. That hasn't gone to trial, as they have no solid evidence. Sadly that's not Justice. AM needs to do life without parole.
I honestly don’t think it’s fair to throw those extras in there like they’ve been murdered or something and the family are to blame. Mallory got in a boat that she knew everyone was drinking in, no, it was not her boat and therefore holds no blame but we’re blamed for every other stupid decision we make while drinking why is it that she’s a victim of her own choices as well? I get it people are going to be made to pay but also Gloria was still alive for nearly two weeks at the hospital, Maggie called 911, if you attempted to kill her wouldn’t you make sure she was dead first? Also they got justice, they were paid out… 🙄 Also there’s no evidence whatsoever that Buster or anyone else killed Stephen. They’re all being thrown in this pot as though the family are a bunch of serial killers or something..
Someone briefly touched upon (while testifying) there'd been a house fire (in the past) at one of the Murdaugh's homes. (It might have been Buster). I wonder what the particulars were surrounding the fire. When I see a character like AM, anything that's out of the ordinary makes me suspicious. It stands to reason.
Alex is looking pretty pissed off with this guy's testimony. He certainly can't expect anything favorable to be said after what he did to his partners. His law partners ended up holding the bag for his mess.
So glad you're on UA-cam! This is IMO a good witness for the prosecution. There's no forensic evidence AM did it and no one else either. I feel he became unhinged and shot them with RAGE.
I hate when someone gets a call while they’re talking to me and they cut me off to answer someone else’s call. That’s so rude. I told my aunt one day that she was being rude.🙄. Obviously Alex is one of those.
I’ve got a completely different view of when Alex would take his “kids or wife’s” casual phone calls during depositions-or during important partner meetings, it’s actually inappropriate, and the opposite of being a “great dad” it’s arrogance to assume everyone in the room doesn’t have things to do or need to be focused on the victim and their client- it’s not ethical when you are billing clients hourly. Bottom line, I’ll bet 99% of those calls weren’t really his kids but he pretended- convinced others who was on the other end, more likely it would be his personal bankers, drugs, money laundering…he is a crazy lunatic - the way these people still throw up their hands and dismiss his behavior and require so little accountability it’s no wonder this all ended in a Greek American trail of violence, abuse and death.
I just don't understand how AM could get away with these thefts for some long and no red flags came up long before the boat crash. The boat crash brought things to a head.
If you want a PDF copy of the Condensed Timeline presented in court, a copy of the full document is available online. It was the first result when I googled "murdaugh condensed timeline".
It sounds like the law firm is trying to make it right for the many people impacted and that's commendable. I sure wouldn't be pleased to have to take money out of my own pocket to pay for someone else's malfeasance.
yea, once they got caught up in it. funny how he cashed two checks and it took so long to act on it and then they just questioned him, not sure they ever got the $ back. there is no way on Earth that that Law Firm didn't know shady stuff was going down. They chose to idle and let it continue on. More than likely they're a part of it. This all goes deeper than Alex. Way deeper. I will never believe nothing but it.
@@cindyb8775 Spot on. And who says all the partners did NOT benefit from AM's way of doing things. Bet they all loved it when the money rolled in. AND what is beyond me - how long did they take to pick this up? The finance people? Don't they know how to do THEIR OWN jobs properly?? This should have been picked up THE FIRST TIME it happened - YEARS ago.Too much going on here - with the money side of things BUT does NOT prove murder.
@Meggie O'Neill Sorry this is such a late comment- I have wondered about that too. I'm a little surprised that finance lady still has a job there because as a partner, you'd think after you got over the initial shock, the next thought would be how in the world did someone not pick up on this? Alex was crafty, but it seems like more controls should have been in place. Even if I belonged to a different law firm, if we were set up even remotely the same, I'd be asking if the same thing could happen at our firm. It's one thing to have to pay for your own screw up, something entirely to have to pay for someone else's.
"OH, the jackass killed himself. But I was concerned We were all grieving. " PLASTIC!!! Thats a lawyer for ya. I get his problems. And anger. But.......like a family member? NOT! Alotta family member screw over other family members. For whatever reason. And drugs is a major reason. Did this man go as far as to kill his kin? Idk. Things look extremely bad!
He’s probably still thinking that he will somehow find a way out it all. Narcs are just that delusional. The literally think that they can talk or find their way out of anything.
I have another theory, Paul "The Detective" Murdaugh was monitoring his dad's drug abuse and searching for his cache of drugs for his mom. Alex knew this, he apologized to Maggie in a text after Paul reported finding his dad's latest cache. Which probably made his dad angry. What if Paul had come to the decision, everyone described as a generally and genuinely likable and good kid, to plead guilty and enter into a plea bargain talks with prosecutors? How would his dad react? The reason I mention it, Alex, days after the massacre of his wife and son, said he was going to fight for Paul's honor in defeating Mallory Beach's family's lawsuit. People were puzzled why catching his wife and son's murderers was not the only priority. It perplexes me too.
It’s week 5 of this trial that was supposed to be 3 weeks. I’m going to miss hearing Judge Newman say “Bring the jury!” several times a day. Judge Newman is a class act. I will NOT miss Dick Harpootlian. His little stunt with the murder weapon the other day was disgusting. Not funny and quite honestly he should be sanctioned. If you can be sanctioned for something like pointing a weapon at the opposing council and saying “tempting “.
Aha! The golf buggy is being mentioned, at last. I suspected that Alec was driving the golf buggy when he first shot Paul. Meaning he was shooting from sitting position in the cart. Hence the trajectory of the bullet. With Maggie, I thought the first three non-fatal shots were from the golf cart, Alec chasing her, as it’s been proven that Maggie was running away. So with her on her hands and knees, as it was determined by the expert, Alec got out of the golf cart and walked to Maggie pumping two bullets in the back of her head. I really hope that the prosecution will keep at the golf buggy theory because it was stated that there was usually guns in the cart. Probably Paul’s guns as he was notorious for leaving his guns all over the place. My opinion my speculation. Please form your own instead of attacking mine. Cheers
@@JanJan-Y4d-6dx Crappy characters are not necessarily murderers. Prove the murders - is what I thought this trial was about. Not about lying and cheating.
A man could be a steal but this doesn't make him a killer. Wow that was a bad decision of his lawyer to put up this guy on stand... I know that stealing money doesn't mean you kill but this guy put bluntly that Alex is now in corner. And I'm sorry but Alex's family history of being respected in the community and solicitors for generations...has now put him in shame.
I have no doubt that Alex was very proud of this testimony that his friend gave but I found it extremely irritating. The inflated and arrogant sense of self-importance that this family had and how it overflowed onto co-workers, friends, and neighbors. I can think of dozens of examples of murders in my own community where mostly black and brown families have to endure hours of their family members laying on cold concrete and asphalt with people walking all around. I can think of dozens of examples of crimes that were committed by known criminals including Jeffrey dahmer, and yes there were cops there that made errors. Paul being a good young man does not mean that his body should have been covered up right away. And law enforcement missing some things or making mistakes does not negate the accuracy of scientific testing or the good work that was also done that night. And the fact that this friend and his law Partners were able to walk around the crime scene and did so without interruption tells me an awful lot more about their disgusting character then it does about the poor performance of law enforcement. In order to get to that property you have to go out of your way and at the end of the day these were attorneys. Are they not familiar with how a crime scene should be treated? Are they not equally responsible for not speaking up and saying anything when they had concerns? It doesn't make me think very highly of this man that his friend also lied to everyone around him for dozens of years including apparently being inebriated or on drugs during most of that experience. Why would I believe anything that this man has to say when he stood next to a liar and to this day still stands and supports that liar? I at least have more faith in Maggie's sister who is upset and realistically disappointed that her ex brother in law lied for so long. This man looks like he's just trying to make his friend look good so that he can look good.
The law firm PMPED is over the top with this betrayal. To the point where it feels like BS. I understand it cost all of them a great deal but The Murdaughs did establish that law firm and AM really did earn a lot of money for the firm but it’s not an excuse .
It is just very very difficult to understand how they were ignorant about all this... It was going on for years ... Or maybe all of them are a little bit guilty of money pinching!
Youngest State attorney needs to learn to say "May it please the Court" And "Begging the Court's indulgence" when he turns his back to the Judge, jury and witness while he confers with other attorneys for more than a minute or2. He's not courteous and he's GOT to stop rattling his legal pad. It makes it obvious that he's not really listening and makes it hard for others to hear. Most discourse one to the sworn witness.
Circumstances makes for a witness of Egad what a criminal this gent is - very sad to see Perilous times Unfolding as foretold in [ 2 Timothy 3:2] 😵 Evil in the Last Days
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I consider this witness one for the prosecution not the defense. This guy felt betrayed and enraged that he had to pay out of his own pockets to cover the millions of dollars that he stole. You can tell he more than likely thinks he did it. He helped the prosecution not the defense.
100%
Oh I agree. But it is a far cry away from murdering his loved ones. So that in itself bothers me as there is more focus on money and not the actual killing of them. A lot of people lie and steal. Doesn't say/prove murder.
@meggieoneill7084 True, but Alex also lied to this witness about being in the dog kennels minutes before murder. So Alex didn't just lie about money to this witness, but also about his alibi. That's what makes it a lot more important.
Not sure if this is a great witness for the defense 😵💫….GO prosecution 🎉
Justice for Mallory, Stephen, Gloria, Maggie and Paul🌷
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They all have received financial compensation from the sale of The hunting lodge and kennels. Except for Stephen. That hasn't gone to trial, as they have no solid evidence. Sadly that's not Justice. AM needs to do life without parole.
I honestly don’t think it’s fair to throw those extras in there like they’ve been murdered or something and the family are to blame.
Mallory got in a boat that she knew everyone was drinking in, no, it was not her boat and therefore holds no blame but we’re blamed for every other stupid decision we make while drinking why is it that she’s a victim of her own choices as well? I get it people are going to be made to pay but also Gloria was still alive for nearly two weeks at the hospital, Maggie called 911, if you attempted to kill her wouldn’t you make sure she was dead first? Also they got justice, they were paid out… 🙄
Also there’s no evidence whatsoever that Buster or anyone else killed Stephen.
They’re all being thrown in this pot as though the family are a bunch of serial killers or something..
Paul? You mean his son?
@@belladamex767 well Mallory’s family has been awarded the compensation they were entitled to.
What kind of Evil would steal from cancer victims and accident victims, not to mention murdering his own family....WOW
Most politics would!
He helped the prosecution not the defense.
He truly did.
Someone briefly touched upon (while testifying) there'd been a house fire (in the past) at one of the Murdaugh's homes. (It might have been Buster). I wonder what the particulars were surrounding the fire. When I see a character like AM, anything that's out of the ordinary makes me suspicious. It stands to reason.
Alex is looking pretty pissed off with this guy's testimony. He certainly can't expect anything favorable to be said after what he did to his partners. His law partners ended up holding the bag for his mess.
Thank you Court TV for LIVE streaming the Trial & for coming to UA-cam side, cable is getting ridiculous.
It's not on cable anymore. I miss these trials on court tv ( like the OJ trial). Court TV needs to come back
This prosecutor is absolutley fantastic. He's a character out of a John Grisham novel
He’s awesome
This is the best Alex could do as a defense witness. Astonishing.
Murdaugh Crime Family
Alex is a monster
Definitely seems to be.
I so find this lawyer endearing. What great stand up guy he is. May their law firm grow from strength to strength.
Yep 💯 agree
So glad you're on UA-cam! This is IMO a good witness for the prosecution. There's no forensic evidence AM did it and no one else either. I feel he became unhinged and shot them with RAGE.
Yes…. I agree
What's IMO???
I wonder if Maggie knew what a crook he was
She was beginning to question that something was up. A check she wrote to charity bounced.
I hate when someone gets a call while they’re talking to me and they cut me off to answer someone else’s call. That’s so rude. I told my aunt one day that she was being rude.🙄. Obviously Alex is one of those.
Agreed. However some calls might be urgent. Boss man calling to potentially fire you. Death in the family, etc.
I’ve got a completely different view of when Alex would take his “kids or wife’s” casual phone calls during depositions-or during important partner meetings, it’s actually inappropriate, and the opposite of being a “great dad” it’s arrogance to assume everyone in the room doesn’t have things to do or need to be focused on the victim and their client- it’s not ethical when you are billing clients hourly. Bottom line, I’ll bet 99% of those calls weren’t really his kids but he pretended- convinced others who was on the other end, more likely it would be his personal bankers, drugs, money laundering…he is a crazy lunatic - the way these people still throw up their hands and dismiss his behavior and require so little accountability it’s no wonder this all ended in a Greek American trail of violence, abuse and death.
I just don't understand how AM could get away with these thefts for some long and no red flags came up long before the boat crash. The boat crash brought things to a head.
Blows my mind…
Well said! Obviously these self righteous people who are very quick to crucify, didn't do THEIR OWN jobs very well!
White privilege, influence, connections, money.
@@Collageartist69 Remember who puts these people on a pedestal? Society. I don't think white, priveledged has anything to do with it.
If you want a PDF copy of the Condensed Timeline presented in court, a copy of the full document is available online. It was the first result when I googled "murdaugh condensed timeline".
So this is a defence witness?
Yep. 😂
😂
It seems like the best that defence could get...😂
what a phenomenal witness for the state! he seems like a genuinely nice guy & completely shocked w/ alex’s manipulative behavior.
if it wasnt for that boat wreck lawsuit, alex murdaugh wouldve still been dipping his hands in that law firm vault to no end🤣
It sounds like the law firm is trying to make it right for the many people impacted and that's commendable. I sure wouldn't be pleased to have to take money out of my own pocket to pay for someone else's malfeasance.
yea, once they got caught up in it. funny how he cashed two checks and it took so long to act on it and then they just questioned him, not sure they ever got the $ back. there is no way on Earth that that Law Firm didn't know shady stuff was going down. They chose to idle and let it continue on. More than likely they're a part of it. This all goes deeper than Alex. Way deeper. I will never believe nothing but it.
@@cindyb8775 Spot on. And who says all the partners did NOT benefit from AM's way of doing things. Bet they all loved it when the money rolled in. AND what is beyond me - how long did they take to pick this up? The finance people? Don't they know how to do THEIR OWN jobs properly?? This should have been picked up THE FIRST TIME it happened - YEARS ago.Too much going on here - with the money side of things BUT does NOT prove murder.
@Meggie O'Neill Sorry this is such a late comment- I have wondered about that too. I'm a little surprised that finance lady still has a job there because as a partner, you'd think after you got over the initial shock, the next thought would be how in the world did someone not pick up on this? Alex was crafty, but it seems like more controls should have been in place. Even if I belonged to a different law firm, if we were set up even remotely the same, I'd be asking if the same thing could happen at our firm. It's one thing to have to pay for your own screw up, something entirely to have to pay for someone else's.
Alex is in court for the CANDY
😂
"OH, the jackass killed himself. But I was concerned We were all grieving. " PLASTIC!!! Thats a lawyer for ya. I get his problems. And anger. But.......like a family member? NOT! Alotta family member screw over other family members. For whatever reason. And drugs is a major reason. Did this man go as far as to kill his kin? Idk. Things look extremely bad!
Great Job Court TV Camera Men 📷
Great job Mr. Waters 🎉
Watching the montage of the betrayed friends on VP tonight is so heartbreaking, especially Uncle Ronny
Who would ever feel sorry for lawyers? I do right now. This trial is hurting me!
I think Cousin Eddie was a gofer for AM on several occasions.
Great witness...for the prosecution, not the defense.
Murdaugh looking very guilty.
How can Alex sit there and listen to lifelong friends trash him? I'd be on suicide watch if I was him
He probably is
He should’ve been a better friend 😂 he deserves it after all the money he stole and didn’t help pay back
He’s probably still thinking that he will somehow find a way out it all. Narcs are just that delusional. The literally think that they can talk or find their way out of anything.
He's a narcissistic psychopath. It doesn't register like it does to the rest of us.
It seems as though the Murdaugh family (especially AM) has negatively touched dozens of people in the town. So sad.
Excellent witness
AM is a liar, raised with a golden spoon, and wanted to be free of everyone and everything to do whatever he wanted.
Go prosecution, go!!
Isn't it wierd that defense lawyer was there at the crime scene?
HE'S GOING TO TESTIFY!!!! He told the judge at 9:50 am on Thursday, February 23rd. Wow!
Who Alex?
Murdaugh She Wrote! 😮
How could you just assume cb Rowe doesn’t know how to leave his phone at home when he’s committing a double murder.
good question. Wonder if he’s 5’2”
I have another theory, Paul "The Detective" Murdaugh was monitoring his dad's drug abuse and searching for his cache of drugs for his mom. Alex knew this, he apologized to Maggie in a text after Paul reported finding his dad's latest cache. Which probably made his dad angry. What if Paul had come to the decision, everyone described as a generally and genuinely likable and good kid, to plead guilty and enter into a plea bargain talks with prosecutors? How would his dad react? The reason I mention it, Alex, days after the massacre of his wife and son, said he was going to fight for Paul's honor in defeating Mallory Beach's family's lawsuit. People were puzzled why catching his wife and son's murderers was not the only priority. It perplexes me too.
The only black person in the court room is the Judge. Imagine that. What a wonderful community.
It’s week 5 of this trial that was supposed to be 3 weeks. I’m going to miss hearing Judge Newman say “Bring the jury!” several times a day. Judge Newman is a class act.
I will NOT miss Dick Harpootlian. His little stunt with the murder weapon the other day was disgusting. Not funny and quite honestly he should be sanctioned. If you can be sanctioned for something like pointing a weapon at the opposing council and saying “tempting “.
The defence are not refined in their ways... The fire arm act was subtle intimidation IMHO...
Aha! The golf buggy is being mentioned, at last. I suspected that Alec was driving the golf buggy when he first shot Paul. Meaning he was shooting from sitting position in the cart. Hence the trajectory of the bullet.
With Maggie, I thought the first three non-fatal shots were from the golf cart, Alec chasing her, as it’s been proven that Maggie was running away. So with her on her hands and knees, as it was determined by the expert, Alec got out of the golf cart and walked to Maggie pumping two bullets in the back of her head.
I really hope that the prosecution will keep at the golf buggy theory because it was stated that there was usually guns in the cart. Probably Paul’s guns as he was notorious for leaving his guns all over the place.
My opinion my speculation. Please form your own instead of attacking mine. Cheers
Why not check his height on a knee. Prosecutors need to look into that. He could’ve got knocked to a knee
*DISCOURTEOUS
Yep. Spoke longer on financial stuff than the murders. Has prosecution run out of facts re actual charges?
This is more of a character witness that AM cannot be trusted.
@@JanJan-Y4d-6dx Crappy characters are not necessarily murderers. Prove the murders - is what I thought this trial was about. Not about lying and cheating.
A man could be a steal but this doesn't make him a killer.
Wow that was a bad decision of his lawyer to put up this guy on stand... I know that stealing money doesn't mean you kill but this guy put bluntly that Alex is now in corner. And I'm sorry but Alex's family history of being respected in the community and solicitors for generations...has now put him in shame.
Wait……this bid a defense witness???
I can't wait he lied about being at the kennels. Wow
Alex told the same story every time. 3x .
How can they say there was zero evidence that anyone else was at the hunting kennels when Maggie had the DNA under her fingernails
She got her nails done
Well said and to note : it was not her husbands!!
@@patriciagazey4693 Which means what in your eyes? She scratched her manucurist? Could be the murderers! Probably is. Which is NOT HER husband's.
I have no doubt that Alex was very proud of this testimony that his friend gave but I found it extremely irritating. The inflated and arrogant sense of self-importance that this family had and how it overflowed onto co-workers, friends, and neighbors. I can think of dozens of examples of murders in my own community where mostly black and brown families have to endure hours of their family members laying on cold concrete and asphalt with people walking all around. I can think of dozens of examples of crimes that were committed by known criminals including Jeffrey dahmer, and yes there were cops there that made errors. Paul being a good young man does not mean that his body should have been covered up right away. And law enforcement missing some things or making mistakes does not negate the accuracy of scientific testing or the good work that was also done that night. And the fact that this friend and his law Partners were able to walk around the crime scene and did so without interruption tells me an awful lot more about their disgusting character then it does about the poor performance of law enforcement. In order to get to that property you have to go out of your way and at the end of the day these were attorneys. Are they not familiar with how a crime scene should be treated? Are they not equally responsible for not speaking up and saying anything when they had concerns? It doesn't make me think very highly of this man that his friend also lied to everyone around him for dozens of years including apparently being inebriated or on drugs during most of that experience. Why would I believe anything that this man has to say when he stood next to a liar and to this day still stands and supports that liar? I at least have more faith in Maggie's sister who is upset and realistically disappointed that her ex brother in law lied for so long. This man looks like he's just trying to make his friend look good so that he can look good.
They’re just ignoring the DNA under Maggie’s nails bc they want what they want instead of the full and entire truth.
They don’t want to bring up that she was having an affair
Hmmm I think he should have been a better friend 🤔
CB Rowe DNA under Maggie fingernails
The law firm PMPED is over the top with this betrayal. To the point where it feels like BS. I understand it cost all of them a great deal but The Murdaughs did establish that law firm and AM really did earn a lot of money for the firm but it’s not an excuse .
It is just very very difficult to understand how they were ignorant about all this... It was going on for years ... Or maybe all of them are a little bit guilty of money pinching!
Youngest State attorney needs to learn to say "May it please the Court" And "Begging the Court's indulgence" when he turns his back to the Judge, jury and witness while he confers with other attorneys for more than a minute or2. He's not courteous and he's GOT to stop rattling his legal pad. It makes it obvious that he's not really listening and makes it hard for others to hear. Most discourse one to the sworn witness.
Hazmat teams
Circumstances makes for a witness of Egad what a criminal this gent is - very sad to see Perilous times Unfolding as foretold in [ 2 Timothy 3:2] 😵 Evil in the Last Days