I'm not sure why a discount, but for sure, some asian women will lower their standards when they date men from other races... especially white men. Standards include physical, age, financial, emotional.... 🤷♂️
Did you pay attention to her? Did you provide her with romance or did you sit in front of your Play Station all day and ignore her? Money won't keep a relationship going; doctors have one of the highest divorce rates.
Back in the day when I briefly dated this Chinese American woman, she said she would only considered dating Asian men that she thought were exceptionally good looking, but would be open to dating White men that were only average looking. As a Chinese American man, I was flattered that she thought I was exeptionally good looking, but at the same time I was disgusted at her double standard. I believe she ended up marrying a average looking white man.
In college, I had a landlady from Korea, who was married to a White American engineer. She stood 5' tall, spoke so-so English, was born Buddhist, but had converted to Christianity. Her half-White daughter was born in California, spoke Californian English, stood 5'6", and was raised as a Baptist. She looked kind of like Aileen Gu, but with dark hair. Unlike her mom, this daughter only dated Asian guys, even though her high school was about 40% White, at that time. All her friends were Asian or "ethnic". She never hung out with Whites.
I've met hapa girls like this, chances are their dad was a pos or their mom repeated racist shit. They usually also had good human relationships with Asian people at an early age so they didn't just internalize the racism.
I absolutely agree with the fact that it has never been a better time to be an Asian-American man. I remember growing up in the 2000's, back then it was socially acceptable to be openly racist to Asian people.
uhhh i don't think it's that much better now. They may not be openly racist but they def have some racist tones when Asian men aren't as attractive as other races.
Asian men do have to do better to stand out amongst the majority but I don’t think it’s an end all be all way to dating those that you feel you deserve. At the end of the day just be you and put yourself out there. you’ll attract someone you’re compatible with
I've definitely experienced the double standard within the Hispanic community too. i had class with this Mexican girl in college, and we did hangout outside of class but she was older than me. One day she told me that she is not interested in Hispanic men at all. So that was a first encounter where, I felt what was the point then as she brought it up in a derogatory way. Apart from the Asian men who come off as jerks I have encountered with (always flexing money, their muscles and workout pics on 99% on social media profiles). Most of the time the Asian men are cool down to earth dudes. Its sad that y'all get put down by Asian women. Ive gone on dates with Asian women form the apps, and its sad how they speak down upon their male counterparts too. So much that they even refuse to bring up their families and how they spend time with them.
just want to address something you said about those Asian jerks that flaunt their money and muscles. i know exactly what you mean but that's because asian guys are losing out to the white guys in the dating and even promotion and leadership department cuz they are generally meek mild and modest. the difference i notice between asian guys and almost every other race is self-promotion. i'm not dissing you. just saying it's a harsh reality.
For most Hispanics, they don't care what race you are since a lot of Hispanics are already mixed with white, Indigenous, and African; just look at Puerto Rico. My mom is a white Hispanic with strawberry blonde hair, but I have a cousin that looks like a light-skinned Black person, and I have an uncle that married a Mexican woman that has more of a tan.
For most Hispanics, they don't care what race you are since a lot of Hispanics are already mixed with white, Indigenous, and African; just look at Puerto Rico. My mom is a white Hispanic with strawberry blonde hair, but I have a cousin that looks like a light-skinned Black person, and I have an uncle that married a Mexican woman that has more of a tan.
My advice for the Asian dudes out there going thru it: "The sooner you accept that the world isn't fair, the sooner you can move on from it." This may sound harsh at first but you will come to see the value of this mindset.
I’ll go further, build our own power and resource networks and create spheres of privilege for our benefit while also imposing unfair standards others as well, life isn’t fair, after all
This is key. Change the things that you can, such as working out. And your height, ethnicity, and other things are best to be accepted. Or you can wear boots that lift you up.
Asian guys who make a lot of / have a lot money should really play it smart and not expose the exact amount they have. If a girl isn’t into you and your “70k lifestyle”, no need to tell them you actually make “$200k” or have a “1 million dollar” portfolio just to impress them 👍👍
Ikr, in the bay, there are many Asian women who married or are with their $200k Asian husband or bf for money and are cheating on them with white dudes who make $70k.
you know this story sound smartass but I have similar happened, it's my neighbour, both asian chinese, the madam born in typical asian household, as elder daughter she always working hard paying for her brother sister and marring guy late, the man give impression have average salary guy (but recently we just know he is a millionaire). He have that "strategy" appearing poor. You know people say it's smart to hide it, but what happen is his wife die from overwork because she have the mentality to "carry" her poor husband and her family. Dying with impression her husband taking slow in life and have no sense urgency with their family economics. And this year he just marry a new wife much more younger than his late wife. what an ironic life
@@onceinabluem00n my comment was directed towards younger unmarried guys to not attract the wrong girl. I think your story is a little different. It sounds like his late wife obviously wasn't after him for his money. If he really loved her, why would he hide his wealth from her their entire marriage and let her overwork until the day she died. He could have at least slowly revealed his wealth or taken care of her financially more, especially in her later years no?
Generally speaking yes Asian men do have to stand out more to attain equal dating opportunities compared to non-asian peers. I can't tell you how many times Ive seen wmaf in public and the asian female sometimes babies the white man and pays the bill for him. Whereas with asian men we are expected to provide everything under intense scrutiny.
I know a Japanese lady who is married to a white man significantly older and he doesnt work and hasnt worked in a while. She works more than one job as well. To be fair the WM now gets disability checks. But I think he became disabled came because of his years of bad diet. All he eat was hotdogs, chicken nuggets and steak and hated Japanese food.
Its WAY EASIER now, try dating in the 80s - 90s when the only asian male most western women saw were negative stereotypes (creepers/losers/nerds) in movies. Then again, modern dating is crazy.
If you live in any Anglo-Sphere country, or the EU, East Asian males aren't portrayed positively in the media. It is extremely difficult to find anyone. A lot of my friends had to go back to their native countries and bring bride here. One of my friends went back to Thailand to bring back a woman. Another one of my friends went back to India to find a bride. My other friends had arranged marriages. A few others left the US, and they were able to get married. My mom says, my theory of East Asian men having difficult time finding anyone is nonsense. She is woman, and she doesn't know anything about this issue. Asian guys were having this discussion back in the 1990s. For East Asian or Indian men, you should look elsewhere. Getting married to a woman, because you have money isn't a good idea, especially in the West, because of the divorce laws. They will take you to the cleaners.
@@Ace1000ks Indian men do fine in the UK. Actually even in the 1800s, plenty of Indian lascar sailors married local British women and assimilated into the group. Arranged marriages are not forced marriages. Even 95% British born Indian women still marry Indian men.
@@Ace1000ks Honestly, I think the situation for Indian men will improve significantly in America as the years go on. The reason I say this is because I know many Indians from Trinidad and Guyana that live in New York and they have zero issues with dating with local women of any backgrounds. They look like average Indian men but just better dressed, built and overall confident with that Caribbean accent. The issue holding Indian men back in America is mostly external. If I ask groups what is wrong with Indian men. 95% of the reasons are external like their smell, hygiene, and overall dress sense. Mind you these are Indians directly from India. However I never see women saying they would not date an Indian because "I don't like their brown skin", many of them aren't even short either. The only thing wrong with them is that they are too foreign for America still. Also another huge downside is that white social media is portraying India as dirty, smelly and crowded. However if India was a developed nation or at least middle income like the Caribbean, then Indian men would not have any issues. They also aren't introverted from my experience. They have decent social skills as well.
@Wiliam-g3g It is hard to find a East Asian woman as a wife in the US. I've dated some Caucasian and Latino women, but East Asian gals are mostly into Caucasian guys. I am a fairly tall guy, I am about 6 ft tall, and I had never had a problem getting a date. I never asked a girl out, they would ask me out. My work schedule was very busy when I was in my 20s and 30s. I worked about 12 to 14 hours a day, and all my relationships fell to pieces. Most of my friends had problems getting dates, because they were short. People in my family were tall, my great grandfather was about 6"5. At work, the older women hit on me. They say I look very handsome for a Asian guy.
@HemasLiving I only know 2 South Asian people. One guy is a Punjabi, and another guy is a Pakistani dude. Only that Punjabi guy had an issue getting married. His brother got married in his late 20s. For East Asian guys, height is an issue. All of my friends got married. The funny thing is, I was the guy who was dating multiple women at a time, and I an not married. I messed around a lot.
@@Ace1000ks that is interesting because I only know one guy from Pakistan and he was literally white passing. The guy could pass for a Southern European, but he was a Muslim and had no interest in marrying western women despite being raised in America. I feel like we East Asians need to form an identity instead of trying to appease whites. These other groups are not trying to marry whites. Some date them in their youth but they generally want to settle down with their own.
3:06 as a black man who has a lot of Asian friends and hear some of the discourse that goes on in their community, I do believe this. I do not think its that outrageous but I do think that the core message is true.
My father came from Csmbodia to Montreal in the 70s. We basically grew up here and have no exposition to Asian culture as the Asian community here is so small. So my siblings and I end up partnering or marrying white Canadians. Our children and nieces and nephews are all mixed raced now. I guess in another generation, our Asian heritage will be diluted further. When you're just a tiny minority among a see of French Canadians, we can only mix and integrate with our environment.
Yes, Asian men have to make 200k usd more than an equally attractive white male in the US. This is why I agree with the passport bros. Go to Asia brothers, the women respect you there❤
Yeah, sadly this is the reality of Asian men in the dating world here in the West. It also applies to non-Asian men too, if they're not tall, attractive and athletic, most women don't find them attractive. But if you make good money or very rich, none of those matters. 😅
You don't have to be tall or athletic to be attractive, as long as your face is attractive then you'll be fine. I've seen some guys who are short and not as athletic but still looks more attractive than a guy who is tall and athletic, but being tall and athletic does give you a privilege, but it doesn't always mean a guy is attractive
@@ninjapirate123 I'm not here to discuss what women finds attractive in a man. Heck, I don't have any of those features. I'm only 5'8 and weights over 200 lbs but I have no issues with dating. Then again, the women I date are mostly tall and curvy type and they find me attractive. But if you're tall, good looking and athletic, you have way more advantage over dudes who don't have those features.
Great stuff as always, but I'd like to argue that things are worse for Asian guys now. 20 years ago, in a fragmented dating market, one could succeed by finding yourself in a good spot, demonstrating relative value, getting a little lucky within a local group or community. Those opportunities are gone now, with the popular dating apps centralizing the market. Now, you have to demonstrate absolute value, and it's pretty hard for a brother to break into that top 5% that gets 95% of the action.
This often happens the other way around, too - I've seen quite a few Asian guys who are 8-9s with 4-5 white girls, but then they'll get picky with fellow Asian girls. Call it white worship, sadaejuui, toadyism, whatever, but it's all the same.
Travel the world, especially to Asia, gain courage and confidence, be proud of your heritage, and meet and date people who value and uplift you. And make you a better person.
I did ask my Asian girlfriends and guys, 30s, why Asian guys need to be taller, wealthier or more handsome in order to be equal in the dating market. They all say it’s because racial privilege is real. Racial privilege is also an asset that makes your life happier, the life of your children more secure, your social life better, your career prospects better, your political prospects better, literally everything traditional women look for in men, and that’s exactly what attractiveness is meant to summarize with just a simple feeling.
You hit the nail on the head. It's mainly due to Asian women wanting to marry into the higher social status of White males in the west. One obvious sign of that is many Asian women who marry whites usually rush to take on their white husbands' Euro/Anglo/Caucasian last names, whereas many Asian women who marry Asian men keep their maiden names.
I have dated tons of women of all types, and my best advice is improve your game, get jacked, wear lifts in your shoes, and make friends wherever you go
My asian parents didn't allow me to go on school camps, they didn't get it and thought it was a waste of money. I'd always be so jealous after everybody coming back the next week and ppl have created new friendships and the bonds became even stronger. But after begging to go (I only went 2 school camps in my whole life), I was able to go but with a threat of almost being disowned by my own parents! When I finally went, it was and still is the best school camp trip of my life! We were out in the bush, setting up tents, chasing wildlife, canoeing to our next camp sites and just burning wood in the camp fire.
I think that's the biggest problem with Asian men is it seems like they're never not under pressure from their parents to succeed, but people, especially kids, need to have a social life. What's the point of getting a good job but having no social skills when trying to find a girl when you probably never had a chance to date and go out to catch a movie or something? We knew this kid that was Vietnamese in high school and had super strict parents, but he would sneak out to hang out with us. Man, he loved just chilling and hanging out with friends. Even if it was just driving around, he just loved being around other kids.
Those parents are still obsessed with test scores because those were more important than exploratory activities like science camps in the pre-industrial societies that they came from (China in the bad old days). Getting into prestigious schools was literally a poor family’s ticket out of poverty. Also, people who grew up poor in Asia will want to stay financially and socially supportive of their kids as that’s how it worked in the poor agrarian societies back then. This is the origin of the helicopter parent psyche.
@canto_v12 Yeah, I guess when it comes to us Latinos, parents obviously care that we do well in school, but if we fail, it's on us. It's not going to be viewed as the parents' fault because by the time we're seniors, we should be around 17 or 18. We're grown by then. If we don't want to study and graduate, that's our choice, but we can still make good money without going to college. I went to UCF and got a bachelor's in biology, but I work for my dad's roofing company delivering materials and doing estimates for roofing jobs. My friend, who didn't go to college, does the same for his dad's concrete business. By 2 PM, I'm done for the day, and you can find a lot of good-paying jobs. The problem is nobody wants to work outside; everyone dreams of that 9-5 cubicle job that just stresses you out. I don't know, I just see us Latinos as those kids who were out partying and did their project a day before it was due while still getting B's and having a social life. I've had Mexican friends that would be out drinking and doing coke in the weekends but at school had all AP classes and were straight A students so it's possible to balance it and have a social life too.
I’m a white guy but I think this has changed a lot in the past couple of years. I’ve noticed Asian guys doing way better than 4 or 5 years ago. Culturally seems like there has been a shift where now it is cool to be the Asian guy.
I got Chinese friends/associates I met through life that are flying to S e Asia to find love These guys are university white collar professionals too Didn’t have much luck /no luck in the west and trying to find love aboard
AM/WF hapa men are not intimidated/awkward with white girls because they pop out from a white woman and have seen and interact with her their whole life. This is not the case with WM/AF hapa men.
@@jasonw3055 I think it's because their parents never allowed them to have a social life, so then you have 30-year-olds that have no idea how to talk to an Asian girl, let alone a non-Asian girl.
Social skills are a bit overrated. Confidence is key. Just being a decent human being and outgoing when necessary is all that takes to be well liked. Growing up you are bombarded with racial stereotypes and gazes, a developing self esteem can develop trauma. Learning to accept who you are is most of the battle.
Isn’t confidence a social skill though? In my experience, being able to relate to your audience in a 2-way conversation is where a lot of Asian dudes fall flat. They either don’t display enough interest in the girl’s background, or they keep redirecting the conversation onto themselves.
I can attesst that their is some internalized racism within some Asian women. I am Mexican and this one Filipina I used to date told me she has never been with Filipino or Asian guy and never will. I tried to get an answer as to why and would she change the subjec to not answer me. Its fine to be attractive to other races but sad when you actively avoid your own.
Asian culture is hard on ALL kids. So when they grow up some want to escape that trauma, and for many, that means dating and marrying with other cultures. God forbid you gotta please TWO pairs of parents with inflated expectations! Also, in my experience Asian groups used to be super cliquey and pretentious, and many girls (including my GF) don’t want any of that groupiness. Dunno if that’s still the case. Disclaimer: AMAF dude here.
I would agreed it’s never a better time to be an Asian men in america. In 2010 I already saw the change when I was in college then but now there’s even more exposure.
@@paytwoyaj8332 Well the exposure is mostly feminine looking men like k pop. We still need masculine men in the media banging more chicks. The only 2 l know is the guy from the show SWAT and another guy from an old HBO show called now and then l think.
Not necessarily, as long as the Asian guy is very attractive then most girls will want him. Most Asian guys I have seen in college are not as attractive as most White guys though
Actually Asian men have started building our own exclusive privilege networks and will be positioned to retaliate in kind, life is unfair, so create the conditions to benefit for ourselves as well
I never had a problem with women. I've dated White girls in elementary and high school(There was only 3 Asians at the school). I've never been dumped. I'm not rich, I'm 5'7 too. I'm from the era that the video came out. I'm 40 now. I'm with a Portuguese woman now. I think it's how I conduct myself. I think I look like I'm a good time and that I'm not boring. I do know I've never been dumped because I make women feel really comfortable. I'm a heavy gamer too in a time when gaming was not cool. I played World of Warcraft. My friends made fun of me for it, I was a nerd in the wrong crowd.
Feel like things have flipped with Gen Z and the rise of Kpop and Asian beauty standards. I’m seeing just as many if not more AMWF now than I did WMAF. And it’s generational. AMWF couples usually in 20’s while WMAF look like they’re in their late 30’s and 40’s. Don’t even get me about the WMAF 50+
I honestly think they could get girls if they took care of themselves. I've seen so many Asian guys with the same haircut that looks like their mom cut it for them. When I was in high school, I would go get a haircut every week or a lineup, and I always made sure I smelled good. I'm not saying to wear designer clothes, but to dress better and not like a 40-year-old dad. I think most of the time, their parents are setting them up for failure. Sure, you might get a good job, but without social skills, it’s tough to get a girl who actually likes you without telling her how much you make. I dated a white girl who was a lawyer, and I worked for my dad's roofing company. She would come bring me food when I worked close to her, and she would be all dressed up she looked like Emma stone she hated when i would call her Emma 😂 and I would be all sweaty and dirty, but we were happy. I was still making good money, but not as much as her. I don't know, I think you can be happy in life without sacrificing your social life.
People just gotta stop treating dating like a test or checklist. There is very little that can be logically explained in physical attraction. Social status is just a small piece of it.
We gotta differentiate qualifiers from physical attraction. There is nothing fair or unfair about dating, as it is based on attraction which is by nature illogical. Being relatable and using experiences to build conversations is attractive. I’ve seen too many guys talk all about themselves, treat the conversation like a test, and wonder why they got passed over. So go out there, be yourself but remember to be your BEST self.
Hey brother, one love to the Fung Bros from Vietnam, I'm a Caribbean Born Latin American, raised in Laguna Niguel Orange County California and I recently came across you guys channel about a couple months ago and I love your perspective anyway, I'll like to comment on your video which to me is bias & stereotype when it comes to Asia guy's and is also subjective when it comes to that study which was done basically 20yrs ago and even then is still subjective and is largely based on white western / American ideology and thinking when it comes to Asians, Asian men and Asian women. So here's my experiences and perspectives as a person of colour aka non white who's a university grad from Cal State Fullerton with a degree in psychology / sociology, Ex military, worked in corporate America and financially secure, I'm also a buff dude with Chad like chisel features and 5-11, back then in teens I mostly dated white girls and Hispanic females, but was always told by my Asia friends I'm a Asian girl type, but fast forwarding many years later and after my divorce to my wife who's white I finally started to date Asia women and never had a problem, when it came to the having to prove myself financially, maybe because I dress nice and took care of myself physically an to be honest I think it's also because I have 30yrs plus of deep rooted affiliation and friendships within the Asian community as well as having a best friend who's Asian. Now moving forward many years later beyond California and now living in Asia as a man of colour who has dated many Asians women of different financial status between California and Asia and was always been call a hotboy boy 😂 but never was held up to any standards when it came to white guys physically or financially etc, as to matter of fact, I have been asked many times by white men when I'm out and about in Việt Nam where and how did I meet my wife who's a tall and beautiful 5-9 Vietnamese woman, who was introduced to me by her work colleague whom I met a coffee shop in Đà Nẵng Việt Nam 5yrs ago to my wife now. Also upon meeting my wife then there was no standards and pure sparks, just two people getting to know each other and now we're married, so like I said it's all subjective and too be honest Asian girls don't like nice guys as or Simps as the stereotypes will lead westerners to believe and from my experience most Asian guys are not Simps and choose women who are suitable for themselves and family.
I mean we're looking at this from a micro lens On average men across the board of sub standard physical feature's have to do much better in order to meet their taller and better looking counterparts
Yes there are more Vietnamese in Montréal than Cambodians, being francophone but we are more or less scattered within the city. A lot of Vietnamese descent end up mixed raced too.
the Why really doesn't matter, does it? This is like asking any girl why she doesn't want to date you. That piece of information is of NO value, AT ALL. Asking won't change anything. 1. She doesn't owe you an answer. 2. It is super awkward. 3. The answer she gives may or may not be the real answer (4. 99% of the time it won't be). 5. how is that going to help you with the next person? the next girl is not the same girl. And if they say, they don't like you because you are asian, what are you going to do? Change your race? become a neurosurgeon?!?!? so that you can date a nurse, in america? I don't understand why you even want to know why. It is what it is.
The biggest issue for Asian guys isn't looks or money, but rather their serious attitude. Being serious in a relationship may be a good thing 20 or 30 yrs ago, but nowadays a lot of young women just wanna hang out or play around and don't want to settle down this early in their life, so Asian guys should adapt, change, and play around more as well.
And one of the easiest solutions for Asian American or Asian Canadian men who can't find romance in the US or Canada is to go back to their home country or perhaps to another Asian country to find a partner. It worked for me and for many others.
I've known a number of Asian women in California who married White men. Then for various reasons, the husband would "White Flight" from California, with or without their Asian wife and mixed children. Those who accompanied their husband back to their hometown --- in Ohio for example --- found themselves in an all-White, semi-Redneck community. They and their kids hated it, especially their in-laws and husband's old buddies, so much so, that they quickly returned to California, and eventually remarried Asian men.
I think this is the good point about asian men. Nobody wants to marry a guy who is playing around or who did it in the past. Real women want real men who take responsibility
… Now, I ain't sayin' she a gold digger (When I'm in need) But she ain't messin' with no broke - (She give me money) Now, I ain't sayin' she a gold digger (When I'm in need) But she ain't messin' with no broke - -Ye
You CANT apply eastern dating values in the west, just like you can’t apply western dating values in the East! In the US, don’t get me wrong, women like men to have financial stability but also a bit of edge to them. In the East, not so much.
as an asian woman born in a western country, i still think the race preferences are subjective... but general statistics back then are probably right to a degree... its a popular occurence to see asian women x white men and white women x asian men also black men x asian/latinas and black women x black/latino men. But all in all different people go for different reasons, for me i lean for genuine commitment, communication and care; above money, fame, appearance, race, gender. Dated rich and poor, of diff races and heights... theyre all very different and changes all the time. People change, trends change, so i dont think statistics are reliable. (eg. kpop within the younger gens had boomed all races to date east asians with specific traits). But if we talking about the mass, im sure straight sub women in general would prefer men who are similar or above their own criteria for instinctual compatibility (eg. same or higher in height, same or higher income, same or larger shoe/hand size etc.).
AND WHY DO THEY HAVE EUROPEANS AS SEXIEST OF THE YEAR EVERY DANG TIME IN THE USA… HOW ABOUT - ASIANS, INDIANS, MIDDLE EASTERNS, HISPANICS and even NATIVE AMERICANS??? Also in movies they need more Asian men as main guy. They’re always supporting actors in movies.
As a 6ft, genY, 5th gen ABC, self made millionaire, the tdlr is yes. However, as a man with high standards for myself I also have high standards for women. I expect them to be a real woman with responsibilities, under 30, and can respect her man.
If they are able to, it's White guys _cough, cough_ . . . Kamala Harris, Ketanji Brown Jackson, Ilhan Omar, AoC, Tina Turner, Serena Williams, Meghan Merkle, Obama Daughters . . .
7:20 most likely answer you’ll get is that they have a double standard. They’ll say that since Asian culture is more conservative and usually the men pay, they expect that from Asian men, while that culture doesn’t exist in white men. So the difference in behavior lies in different cultural expectations.
It’s obsolete and the methodology is sketchy in itself. The general idea that Asian or any minority in general has to be above average to date white women is true though
@ I don’t think most black men are single. They just aren’t married, but they date around. I see a lot more Asian women willing to date Asian men in 2024, but I think that has a lot more to do with the recent trend of hating on white people than anything else. What happens when white men lose their social capital? They have not much left so it evens out the playing field a bit more.
Lol white girls are easy, especially on the east coast. Just make them laugh, and they laugh super easily. I grew up in the South (only asian guy in HS of 500) so I was forced to learn
Why are so many 1st gen. Asian immigrant parents say there is no 1st 2nd 3rd class in America bc we are all immigrants here except for ofc Native Americans? but they do agree with 1st 2nd classes being in Europe?
My opinion: comment #1 Masculine, handsome, good-looking are based on Western standards. The "good-looking" Asian men tend to have more Western features, big eyes, eyelids, more pronounce nosebridge, narrow nose, tall, etc. If Asian guys have Western features, they are barely even with White guys. The Asian guys need to bring more to the table ie, money and status. Exception to this is rare where women, often very independent and confident, who like Asian culture, studied/worked in Asia, are more likely to appreciate the "Asian look." Comment #3 for white women to date/marry Asian men, they are taking a risk, conscious or subconscious. Society, friends and family will judge them. For the risk they take there must be a justifiable reward, ie money and status; otherwise, date/marry white men and no criticism. Comment #4 for Asian women in Western societies it is their ticket to validation and security. They can be whitewashed more than Asian men. Asian women change their surnames to be Smith, Johnson, Jones. On paper, Asian women can blend in as white, "Mrs Jones." Often times that's where the bias begins, on paper, an application, signature, id. Asian men do not have this loophole. Comment #5 Young Asian guys today have it much better than us who came of age in the 80s.
It all comes down to looks, social skills and wealth. Not every white guy is a 6'2 chad which would make this study make some sense. Attractive is attractive and comes in many colors.
white guy doesn't need to be 6'2 chad to get girls. i've seen my own asian female friend lusting after a short and average looking white guy on the street, right after she told me she doesn't like asian guys
It's funny because I see the complete opposite in Asian countries. I've lived in Japan, Indonesia and I'm now in South Korea. Girls who are into Asian guys here will tolerate the shittiest behaviors from the local men because they happen to have a physical preference for Asian features, when they would never accept that attitude from men from their own countries. It was the same in Japan. I don't know about Indonesia, I was the only bule where I lived. I also see some Asian Americans who come to Korea to have better dating opportunities because that's where a lot of women who like Asian guys are. ^^ I'm curious to see the profiles of the women and men they interviewed for that study though.
Indonesian women like various type white guy.. From the holywood type guy like tom cruise, daniel craig, brad pitt,, etc to old guy type like donald trump or joe biden and average guy like ed sheran or mark zukerberg.. I once saw beautiful early 30's indonesian girl with somebody like jack black (short and fat) in bali..
Speakin as a blk man.... NO HATE just ❤ tryin to help my Asian bruhs! ✅️ Ya'll keep placing WHITE DUDES at the center. ✅️ You keep tryin to make make everything into a mathematical scientific equation. ✅️ Asian bruhs..... just don't place enough emphasis on your looks & how you hold your style.
Guess I'm more referencing..... that professor sayin, *"An Asian guy has to make a certain amount of money just to equal a white guy."* but it seemed like alot of ASIAN BROS were agreeing with it?
I’m thinking the same, because when you first meet women, they don’t know how much you make. As long as you have nice clothes and have swag and don’t say nothing goofy, you’ll prob get dates when you’re also confident Edit: go to any mall, and you’ll see normal guys have normal girlfriends
I think money is part of it but there’s also social class, generational wealth, and clout. White guy might make 65k but she’ll might get treated better socially if she’s with a white family or group. Also, the white family might have money, investment, and asset set aside for him for the future unlike first gen families. At the end of the day, we’re all trying to better ourselves or situation. Each person should do and choose what’s best for them. Asian men, go out and claim yours and don’t get distracted by what other people are doing.
This! We waste too much time trying to understand something that is illogical by nature. Be our most confident selves and don’t give up. Confidence and positivity are universally appreciated.
If you think the tax for Asian men is high you should come and feel the tax black men have to pay. Colorism is ridiculous and lazy but it's in full effect in most places in the world fr
@@invisiblerevolution There has already been a lot of research on dating preferences and internal research in the dating apps about who gets filtered in and who gets filtered out. Black women is the highest filtered out and black men the second. Those are just facts bro. Google is free you and can use it anytime.
Asian people do not like other Asian people: Chinese do not like Japanese, Koreans do not like Chinese and Japanese, etc. The fact that Asian women not liking Asian man, and vice versa is a consequence but not a separate problem. Why would you date somebody who you do not suppose to like? Asian boys should also be more independent, if you fall in love then marry that girl without asking your parents and other 10,000 relatives and neighbors.
As a 42-year old Asian male, I’ve been quite popular on dating apps and I barely spend money on women. In fact, majority of my matches sleep with me the same day
You don’t spend money on these girls because you’re what they call a Chad. If you are an average man, making average income, working a blue collar job, a woman who may even be rated as low as a 4 will probably not even look at your direction.
All the Asian guy had to do was crack a joke - I make "$248,000" more a year than this dude and he would have been an instant hit. The point is we Asian's can learn to have a bit more humor instead of standing there and letting in this uncomfortable and derogatory scenario play out.
The "good time to be an Asian man" comments are missing that it's also generation specific. If you're teen or twenty now, yes. If 30s+ (I'm 40s) nothing changed in my experience.
@kaniyama-chairdesklamp in almost any time, putting responsible effort into being extremely above average or maximizing emotional, social, financial, and physical (such as having an elite drug free competitive bodybuilder physique) performance tends to be appealing to most groups of people. Outgoing, well groomed, and extremely jacked Asian guys have already been dating very attractive women of all groups for decades.
My sister makes six figures and married a white guy making five figures. She would buy clothes for him as they browsed through the mall. Every day, they'd say, "I love you." Um, then she suddenly divorced him, took the house, and left him alone renting a basement. Everything evens out eventually
Asian men need to be better represented in Western media. The media very rarely have Asian men as strong, handsome, or in romantic leads. Media/Hollywood needs to do better for Asian men!
As a 26 year old Asian man I see this as a win win situation, if I dated and found the one it’s a W but if I don’t I still get to keep my looks since most Asians age slowly compared to other races. (Seriously I’ve been told I look like I’m 18 or 19) 😁😅
Some of us Asians including me do blend in with white people. Most people can't even tell if I'm white or Asian so they just assume I'm white which they aren't wrong considering I do look white even tho I'm only half white. (Technically I'm Wasian).
I see this alot in interacial dating. It almost like a tax or discount to get along because of the perceived barriers dating outside the community
Basically AA girls do discount on Whites guys and tax the AA guys.
@@Peter_Sokunbi that tax will also be applied and enforced by Asian men against Asian women in the coming years in the Asian Century, count on it
I'm not sure why a discount, but for sure, some asian women will lower their standards when they date men from other races... especially white men. Standards include physical, age, financial, emotional.... 🤷♂️
My Chinese ex is dating a barista at Starbucks but when she was with me i was told I wasn’t good enough
I’m a Chinese software developer
Maybe it's a personality thing rather than a financial thing? At least for her case specifically?
Did you pay attention to her? Did you provide her with romance or did you sit in front of your Play Station all day and ignore her? Money won't keep a relationship going; doctors have one of the highest divorce rates.
And he is white?
Sounds like she got humbled LOL
@ yes he’s white
Back in the day when I briefly dated this Chinese American woman, she said she would only considered dating Asian men that she thought were exceptionally good looking, but would be open to dating White men that were only average looking. As a Chinese American man, I was flattered that she thought I was exeptionally good looking, but at the same time I was disgusted at her double standard. I believe she ended up marrying a average looking white man.
she wanted her kids to be white more than a full asian thats considered good looking
That speaks more to her own insecurities than to any shortcoming on your end. You dodged a bullet.
@@brianlouie8255 yup, Asian need to build our own power structures and impose our own double standards accordingly
Her loss. Shes a traitor anyway.
是她需要你，并不是你需要她，不要高估亚裔女的魅力，其实它们的性特征和女人味是比不了黑人和白人女性的
In college, I had a landlady from Korea, who was married to a White American engineer. She stood 5' tall, spoke so-so English, was born Buddhist, but had converted to Christianity. Her half-White daughter was born in California, spoke Californian English, stood 5'6", and was raised as a Baptist. She looked kind of like Aileen Gu, but with dark hair. Unlike her mom, this daughter only dated Asian guys, even though her high school was about 40% White, at that time. All her friends were Asian or "ethnic". She never hung out with Whites.
Maybe mixed race women likes Asian guys but fully Asian women likes White guys
Based hapa girl!
This is also the case in the Deep South, where anyone other than pure white gets grouped with their nonwhite half
Very rare to see that, usually they worship the white god that is a basic white guy lol
I've met hapa girls like this, chances are their dad was a pos or their mom repeated racist shit. They usually also had good human relationships with Asian people at an early age so they didn't just internalize the racism.
I absolutely agree with the fact that it has never been a better time to be an Asian-American man. I remember growing up in the 2000's, back then it was socially acceptable to be openly racist to Asian people.
uhhh i don't think it's that much better now. They may not be openly racist but they def have some racist tones when Asian men aren't as attractive as other races.
It still is, unfortunately. Maybe it's gotten a lil better, but of all minorities, it is still more seen as no big deal when done to asians.
Even Asian-American women discriminated against Asian-American men. The excuse was that Asian women didn't want to date their brothers!
@@kevinp8108 It's a non-White phenomenon. Just look at Kamala Harris, Ketanji Brown Jackson, Ilhan Omar, AoC, Debbie Thomas, Serena Williams, Meghan Merkle . . .
It has gotten worse in recent years.
Asian men do have to do better to stand out amongst the majority but I don’t think it’s an end all be all way to dating those that you feel you deserve. At the end of the day just be you and put yourself out there. you’ll attract someone you’re compatible with
By _default,_ that would be African-American women.
@@phatboy0621 for a country full of individualist free thinkers, those opinions converge a lot more than one would think
Well said.
@@phatboy0621 End result Asian men still see inferior to white and others
I've definitely experienced the double standard within the Hispanic community too. i had class with this Mexican girl in college, and we did hangout outside of class but she was older than me. One day she told me that she is not interested in Hispanic men at all. So that was a first encounter where, I felt what was the point then as she brought it up in a derogatory way. Apart from the Asian men who come off as jerks I have encountered with (always flexing money, their muscles and workout pics on 99% on social media profiles). Most of the time the Asian men are cool down to earth dudes. Its sad that y'all get put down by Asian women. Ive gone on dates with Asian women form the apps, and its sad how they speak down upon their male counterparts too. So much that they even refuse to bring up their families and how they spend time with them.
just want to address something you said about those Asian jerks that flaunt their money and muscles. i know exactly what you mean but that's because asian guys are losing out to the white guys in the dating and even promotion and leadership department cuz they are generally meek mild and modest. the difference i notice between asian guys and almost every other race is self-promotion. i'm not dissing you. just saying it's a harsh reality.
No offense but I have never seen a huge swole Asian man in a California gym
For most Hispanics, they don't care what race you are since a lot of Hispanics are already mixed with white, Indigenous, and African; just look at Puerto Rico. My mom is a white Hispanic with strawberry blonde hair, but I have a cousin that looks like a light-skinned Black person, and I have an uncle that married a Mexican woman that has more of a tan.
For most Hispanics, they don't care what race you are since a lot of Hispanics are already mixed with white, Indigenous, and African; just look at Puerto Rico. My mom is a white Hispanic with strawberry blonde hair, but I have a cousin that looks like a light-skinned Black person, and I have an uncle that married a Mexican woman that has more of a tan.
the asian girls you went on dates with spoke down on asian men?
My advice for the Asian dudes out there going thru it: "The sooner you accept that the world isn't fair, the sooner you can move on from it." This may sound harsh at first but you will come to see the value of this mindset.
Asian Men have had lots of success with Hawaiian and Filipino women, where they have beat White and Black guys.
I’ll go further, build our own power and resource networks and create spheres of privilege for our benefit while also imposing unfair standards others as well, life isn’t fair, after all
@@MelvoraFilms Asian men are well accepted in third world even in eastern europe and western european they are less contaminated by hollywood racism
This is key. Change the things that you can, such as working out. And your height, ethnicity, and other things are best to be accepted. Or you can wear boots that lift you up.
@@MelvoraFilms❤
Asian guys who make a lot of / have a lot money should really play it smart and not expose the exact amount they have.
If a girl isn’t into you and your “70k lifestyle”, no need to tell them you actually make “$200k” or have a “1 million dollar” portfolio just to impress them 👍👍
Ikr, in the bay, there are many Asian women who married or are with their $200k Asian husband or bf for money and are cheating on them with white dudes who make $70k.
I agree, women too should keep it a secret.
you know this story sound smartass but I have similar happened, it's my neighbour, both asian chinese, the madam born in typical asian household, as elder daughter she always working hard paying for her brother sister and marring guy late, the man give impression have average salary guy (but recently we just know he is a millionaire). He have that "strategy" appearing poor. You know people say it's smart to hide it, but what happen is his wife die from overwork because she have the mentality to "carry" her poor husband and her family. Dying with impression her husband taking slow in life and have no sense urgency with their family economics. And this year he just marry a new wife much more younger than his late wife. what an ironic life
@@onceinabluem00n my comment was directed towards younger unmarried guys to not attract the wrong girl. I think your story is a little different.
It sounds like his late wife obviously wasn't after him for his money. If he really loved her, why would he hide his wealth from her their entire marriage and let her overwork until the day she died. He could have at least slowly revealed his wealth or taken care of her financially more, especially in her later years no?
Generally speaking yes Asian men do have to stand out more to attain equal dating opportunities compared to non-asian peers. I can't tell you how many times Ive seen wmaf in public and the asian female sometimes babies the white man and pays the bill for him. Whereas with asian men we are expected to provide everything under intense scrutiny.
I know a Japanese lady who is married to a white man significantly older and he doesnt work and hasnt worked in a while. She works more than one job as well. To be fair the WM now gets disability checks. But I think he became disabled came because of his years of bad diet. All he eat was hotdogs, chicken nuggets and steak and hated Japanese food.
She should dump his entitled unassimilated whyte ass, but I agree with some of your points
Imagine having to work harder and stand out more to your own race.
Its WAY EASIER now, try dating in the 80s - 90s when the only asian male most western women saw were negative stereotypes (creepers/losers/nerds) in movies.
Then again, modern dating is crazy.
Yup. I'm 58 and lived through that.
@Wiliam-g3gI don’t have a lot of friends but I know about the same number of AMWF couples as WMAF.
@Wiliam-g3g speak for yourself lol
@Wiliam-g3g speak for yourself lol
If you live in any Anglo-Sphere country, or the EU, East Asian males aren't portrayed positively in the media. It is extremely difficult to find anyone.
A lot of my friends had to go back to their native countries and bring bride here. One of my friends went back to Thailand to bring back a woman. Another one of my friends went back to India to find a bride. My other friends had arranged marriages. A few others left the US, and they were able to get married.
My mom says, my theory of East Asian men having difficult time finding anyone is nonsense. She is woman, and she doesn't know anything about this issue. Asian guys were having this discussion back in the 1990s. For East Asian or Indian men, you should look elsewhere. Getting married to a woman, because you have money isn't a good idea, especially in the West, because of the divorce laws. They will take you to the cleaners.
@@Ace1000ks Indian men do fine in the UK. Actually even in the 1800s, plenty of Indian lascar sailors married local British women and assimilated into the group. Arranged marriages are not forced marriages. Even 95% British born Indian women still marry Indian men.
@@Ace1000ks Honestly, I think the situation for Indian men will improve significantly in America as the years go on. The reason I say this is because I know many Indians from Trinidad and Guyana that live in New York and they have zero issues with dating with local women of any backgrounds. They look like average Indian men but just better dressed, built and overall confident with that Caribbean accent. The issue holding Indian men back in America is mostly external. If I ask groups what is wrong with Indian men. 95% of the reasons are external like their smell, hygiene, and overall dress sense. Mind you these are Indians directly from India. However I never see women saying they would not date an Indian because "I don't like their brown skin", many of them aren't even short either. The only thing wrong with them is that they are too foreign for America still. Also another huge downside is that white social media is portraying India as dirty, smelly and crowded. However if India was a developed nation or at least middle income like the Caribbean, then Indian men would not have any issues. They also aren't introverted from my experience. They have decent social skills as well.
@Wiliam-g3g It is hard to find a East Asian woman as a wife in the US. I've dated some Caucasian and Latino women, but East Asian gals are mostly into Caucasian guys.
I am a fairly tall guy, I am about 6 ft tall, and I had never had a problem getting a date. I never asked a girl out, they would ask me out.
My work schedule was very busy when I was in my 20s and 30s. I worked about 12 to 14 hours a day, and all my relationships fell to pieces.
Most of my friends had problems getting dates, because they were short. People in my family were tall, my great grandfather was about 6"5.
At work, the older women hit on me. They say I look very handsome for a Asian guy.
@HemasLiving I only know 2 South Asian people. One guy is a Punjabi, and another guy is a Pakistani dude. Only that Punjabi guy had an issue getting married. His brother got married in his late 20s.
For East Asian guys, height is an issue. All of my friends got married. The funny thing is, I was the guy who was dating multiple women at a time, and I an not married. I messed around a lot.
@@Ace1000ks that is interesting because I only know one guy from Pakistan and he was literally white passing. The guy could pass for a Southern European, but he was a Muslim and had no interest in marrying western women despite being raised in America. I feel like we East Asians need to form an identity instead of trying to appease whites. These other groups are not trying to marry whites. Some date them in their youth but they generally want to settle down with their own.
3:06 as a black man who has a lot of Asian friends and hear some of the discourse that goes on in their community, I do believe this. I do not think its that outrageous but I do think that the core message is true.
They don't f with us bro. Not collectively. That discussion won't be had in a genuine way in these spaces.
My father came from Csmbodia to Montreal in the 70s. We basically grew up here and have no exposition to Asian culture as the Asian community here is so small. So my siblings and I end up partnering or marrying white Canadians. Our children and nieces and nephews are all mixed raced now. I guess in another generation, our Asian heritage will be diluted further. When you're just a tiny minority among a see of French Canadians, we can only mix and integrate with our environment.
aren't there viet's in Montreal? in us btw
Yes, Asian men have to make 200k usd more than an equally attractive white male in the US. This is why I agree with the passport bros. Go to Asia brothers, the women respect you there❤
either that, or you date asian FOB's.
Yeah, sadly this is the reality of Asian men in the dating world here in the West. It also applies to non-Asian men too, if they're not tall, attractive and athletic, most women don't find them attractive. But if you make good money or very rich, none of those matters. 😅
You don't have to be tall or athletic to be attractive, as long as your face is attractive then you'll be fine. I've seen some guys who are short and not as athletic but still looks more attractive than a guy who is tall and athletic, but being tall and athletic does give you a privilege, but it doesn't always mean a guy is attractive
Except on average Asian men in the West are the highest earning group. This is the "ethnicity tax" that's no longer politically correct to acknowledge
@@ninjapirate123 I'm not here to discuss what women finds attractive in a man. Heck, I don't have any of those features. I'm only 5'8 and weights over 200 lbs but I have no issues with dating. Then again, the women I date are mostly tall and curvy type and they find me attractive. But if you're tall, good looking and athletic, you have way more advantage over dudes who don't have those features.
@@Bluboy30 get in shape and get ur money up. Also dress better week a image consultant. U make a lot of excuses
@@Bluboy30 Yes, but I believe most women care more about the look of a guys face than the other stuff you have mentioned
Great stuff as always, but I'd like to argue that things are worse for Asian guys now. 20 years ago, in a fragmented dating market, one could succeed by finding yourself in a good spot, demonstrating relative value, getting a little lucky within a local group or community. Those opportunities are gone now, with the popular dating apps centralizing the market. Now, you have to demonstrate absolute value, and it's pretty hard for a brother to break into that top 5% that gets 95% of the action.
This often happens the other way around, too - I've seen quite a few Asian guys who are 8-9s with 4-5 white girls, but then they'll get picky with fellow Asian girls. Call it white worship, sadaejuui, toadyism, whatever, but it's all the same.
@@munchkin0518 gee I wonder how that got started, Asian women love to project
Travel the world, especially to Asia, gain courage and confidence, be proud of your heritage, and meet and date people who value and uplift you. And make you a better person.
In the US and Western countries it is, but it isn't like that in most other countries.
yes western society is controlled by those who owns hollywood
I did ask my Asian girlfriends and guys, 30s, why Asian guys need to be taller, wealthier or more handsome in order to be equal in the dating market. They all say it’s because racial privilege is real. Racial privilege is also an asset that makes your life happier, the life of your children more secure, your social life better, your career prospects better, your political prospects better, literally everything traditional women look for in men, and that’s exactly what attractiveness is meant to summarize with just a simple feeling.
You hit the nail on the head. It's mainly due to Asian women wanting to marry into the higher social status of White males in the west. One obvious sign of that is many Asian women who marry whites usually rush to take on their white husbands' Euro/Anglo/Caucasian last names, whereas many Asian women who marry Asian men keep their maiden names.
I have dated tons of women of all types, and my best advice is improve your game, get jacked, wear lifts in your shoes, and make friends wherever you go
@@hvyd4life you don't even look jacked
You don't look impressive or jacked
@ it’s not so much about race but more about dating experience and socialproof
@Wiliam-g3g speak for yourself lol
My asian parents didn't allow me to go on school camps, they didn't get it and thought it was a waste of money. I'd always be so jealous after everybody coming back the next week and ppl have created new friendships and the bonds became even stronger. But after begging to go (I only went 2 school camps in my whole life), I was able to go but with a threat of almost being disowned by my own parents! When I finally went, it was and still is the best school camp trip of my life! We were out in the bush, setting up tents, chasing wildlife, canoeing to our next camp sites and just burning wood in the camp fire.
I think that's the biggest problem with Asian men is it seems like they're never not under pressure from their parents to succeed, but people, especially kids, need to have a social life. What's the point of getting a good job but having no social skills when trying to find a girl when you probably never had a chance to date and go out to catch a movie or something? We knew this kid that was Vietnamese in high school and had super strict parents, but he would sneak out to hang out with us. Man, he loved just chilling and hanging out with friends. Even if it was just driving around, he just loved being around other kids.
Those parents are still obsessed with test scores because those were more important than exploratory activities like science camps in the pre-industrial societies that they came from (China in the bad old days). Getting into prestigious schools was literally a poor family’s ticket out of poverty.
Also, people who grew up poor in Asia will want to stay financially and socially supportive of their kids as that’s how it worked in the poor agrarian societies back then. This is the origin of the helicopter parent psyche.
@canto_v12 Yeah, I guess when it comes to us Latinos, parents obviously care that we do well in school, but if we fail, it's on us. It's not going to be viewed as the parents' fault because by the time we're seniors, we should be around 17 or 18. We're grown by then. If we don't want to study and graduate, that's our choice, but we can still make good money without going to college. I went to UCF and got a bachelor's in biology, but I work for my dad's roofing company delivering materials and doing estimates for roofing jobs. My friend, who didn't go to college, does the same for his dad's concrete business. By 2 PM, I'm done for the day, and you can find a lot of good-paying jobs. The problem is nobody wants to work outside; everyone dreams of that 9-5 cubicle job that just stresses you out. I don't know, I just see us Latinos as those kids who were out partying and did their project a day before it was due while still getting B's and having a social life. I've had Mexican friends that would be out drinking and doing coke in the weekends but at school had all AP classes and were straight A students so it's possible to balance it and have a social life too.
I’m a white guy but I think this has changed a lot in the past couple of years. I’ve noticed Asian guys doing way better than 4 or 5 years ago. Culturally seems like there has been a shift where now it is cool to be the Asian guy.
Not really, they're not mainstream
Nope. Ashkenazim men have and will always be the prize catch (Kushner, Goldman, Zuck, Kravitz, Cates/Katz, Povich, Green, Cohen, Edelman . . . )
@@BillMice The last sentence is probably pushing it lol. But he's still right overall, it's objectively better for asian guys now than before
I got Chinese friends/associates I met through life that are flying to S e Asia to find love
These guys are university white collar professionals too
Didn’t have much luck /no luck in the west and trying to find love aboard
I notice AMWF Eurasian hapa men get way more women than WMAF Eurasian men. In my opinion for several key reasons.
You're noticing way too much then
@Wiliam-g3gmaybe stop being an incel and maybe they'll talk to you.
AM/WF hapa men are not intimidated/awkward with white girls because they pop out from a white woman and have seen and interact with her their whole life. This is not the case with WM/AF hapa men.
@@jasonw3055 I think it's because their parents never allowed them to have a social life, so then you have 30-year-olds that have no idea how to talk to an Asian girl, let alone a non-Asian girl.
Of all the copes out there this one is by far the most hilarious
Social skills are a bit overrated. Confidence is key. Just being a decent human being and outgoing when necessary is all that takes to be well liked. Growing up you are bombarded with racial stereotypes and gazes, a developing self esteem can develop trauma. Learning to accept who you are is most of the battle.
Thanks so much for this amazing observation. 💯 agree.
Isn’t confidence a social skill though?
In my experience, being able to relate to your audience in a 2-way conversation is where a lot of Asian dudes fall flat. They either don’t display enough interest in the girl’s background, or they keep redirecting the conversation onto themselves.
I can attesst that their is some internalized racism within some Asian women. I am Mexican and this one Filipina I used to date told me she has never been with Filipino or Asian guy and never will. I tried to get an answer as to why and would she change the subjec to not answer me. Its fine to be attractive to other races but sad when you actively avoid your own.
Asian culture is hard on ALL kids. So when they grow up some want to escape that trauma, and for many, that means dating and marrying with other cultures. God forbid you gotta please TWO pairs of parents with inflated expectations!
Also, in my experience Asian groups used to be super cliquey and pretentious, and many girls (including my GF) don’t want any of that groupiness. Dunno if that’s still the case.
Disclaimer: AMAF dude here.
I would agreed it’s never a better time to be an Asian men in america. In 2010 I already saw the change when I was in college then but now there’s even more exposure.
@@paytwoyaj8332 Well the exposure is mostly feminine looking men like k pop. We still need masculine men in the media banging more chicks. The only 2 l know is the guy from the show SWAT and another guy from an old HBO show called now and then l think.
damn big yes,from experience we are even supposed to know all those so called traditions, cultural things too just because we're asian...
Sucks to be Asian males, but It is what it is. Even if this study is done 19 years ago. It is still valid today. 😢
Not necessarily, as long as the Asian guy is very attractive then most girls will want him. Most Asian guys I have seen in college are not as attractive as most White guys though
@@ninjapirate123 For me, I will weight brain over look. I think this is smart choice, as an asian
Actually Asian men have started building our own exclusive privilege networks and will be positioned to retaliate in kind, life is unfair, so create the conditions to benefit for ourselves as well
I never had a problem with women. I've dated White girls in elementary and high school(There was only 3 Asians at the school). I've never been dumped. I'm not rich, I'm 5'7 too. I'm from the era that the video came out. I'm 40 now. I'm with a Portuguese woman now. I think it's how I conduct myself. I think I look like I'm a good time and that I'm not boring. I do know I've never been dumped because I make women feel really comfortable. I'm a heavy gamer too in a time when gaming was not cool. I played World of Warcraft. My friends made fun of me for it, I was a nerd in the wrong crowd.
2006... that's pre-JABBAWOCKEEZ. Completely different world lol
Feel like things have flipped with Gen Z and the rise of Kpop and Asian beauty standards. I’m seeing just as many if not more AMWF now than I did WMAF. And it’s generational. AMWF couples usually in 20’s while WMAF look like they’re in their late 30’s and 40’s. Don’t even get me about the WMAF 50+
Yea Kpop amd anime lately are helping a bit but it’s still Asian men at the bottom according to studies
This for sure. The study referenced in this video is from 2006. Asian men these days are fetishized now Lol.
Still depends a lot from area to area
what about AMAF
You must be joking
I still see more Asian women with white men.
I honestly think they could get girls if they took care of themselves. I've seen so many Asian guys with the same haircut that looks like their mom cut it for them. When I was in high school, I would go get a haircut every week or a lineup, and I always made sure I smelled good. I'm not saying to wear designer clothes, but to dress better and not like a 40-year-old dad. I think most of the time, their parents are setting them up for failure. Sure, you might get a good job, but without social skills, it’s tough to get a girl who actually likes you without telling her how much you make. I dated a white girl who was a lawyer, and I worked for my dad's roofing company. She would come bring me food when I worked close to her, and she would be all dressed up she looked like Emma stone she hated when i would call her Emma 😂 and I would be all sweaty and dirty, but we were happy. I was still making good money, but not as much as her. I don't know, I think you can be happy in life without sacrificing your social life.
People just gotta stop treating dating like a test or checklist. There is very little that can be logically explained in physical attraction. Social status is just a small piece of it.
We gotta differentiate qualifiers from physical attraction. There is nothing fair or unfair about dating, as it is based on attraction which is by nature illogical.
Being relatable and using experiences to build conversations is attractive. I’ve seen too many guys talk all about themselves, treat the conversation like a test, and wonder why they got passed over.
So go out there, be yourself but remember to be your BEST self.
Hey brother, one love to the Fung Bros from Vietnam, I'm a Caribbean Born Latin American, raised in Laguna Niguel Orange County California and I recently came across you guys channel about a couple months ago and I love your perspective anyway, I'll like to comment on your video which to me is bias & stereotype when it comes to Asia guy's and is also subjective when it comes to that study which was done basically 20yrs ago and even then is still subjective and is largely based on white western / American ideology and thinking when it comes to Asians, Asian men and Asian women.
So here's my experiences and perspectives as a person of colour aka non white who's a university grad from Cal State Fullerton with a degree in psychology / sociology, Ex military, worked in corporate America and financially secure, I'm also a buff dude with Chad like chisel features and 5-11, back then in teens I mostly dated white girls and Hispanic females, but was always told by my Asia friends I'm a Asian girl type, but fast forwarding many years later and after my divorce to my wife who's white I finally started to date Asia women and never had a problem, when it came to the having to prove myself financially, maybe because I dress nice and took care of myself physically an to be honest I think it's also because I have 30yrs plus of deep rooted affiliation and friendships within the Asian community as well as having a best friend who's Asian.
Now moving forward many years later beyond California and now living in Asia as a man of colour who has dated many Asians women of different financial status between California and Asia and was always been call a hotboy boy 😂 but never was held up to any standards when it came to white guys physically or financially etc, as to matter of fact, I have been asked many times by white men when I'm out and about in Việt Nam where and how did I meet my wife who's a tall and beautiful 5-9 Vietnamese woman, who was introduced to me by her work colleague whom I met a coffee shop in Đà Nẵng Việt Nam 5yrs ago to my wife now.
Also upon meeting my wife then there was no standards and pure sparks, just two people getting to know each other and now we're married, so like I said it's all subjective and too be honest Asian girls don't like nice guys as or Simps as the stereotypes will lead westerners to believe and from my experience most Asian guys are not Simps and choose women who are suitable for themselves and family.
I mean we're looking at this from a micro lens
On average men across the board of sub standard physical feature's have to do much better in order to meet their taller and better looking counterparts
Once you go asian you solve the equation 😊
😂😂😂
SOC119 always drops some real game.
Social media blows things out of proportion. Like not all Asian are smart and good at math.
TLDR: Yes.
With great power, comes great responsibility.
Yes there are more Vietnamese in Montréal than Cambodians, being francophone but we are more or less scattered within the city. A lot of Vietnamese descent end up mixed raced too.
C’mon…are we really asking this? We already know the answer to this.
If you have to ask then yes.
the Why really doesn't matter, does it? This is like asking any girl why she doesn't want to date you. That piece of information is of NO value, AT ALL. Asking won't change anything. 1. She doesn't owe you an answer. 2. It is super awkward. 3. The answer she gives may or may not be the real answer (4. 99% of the time it won't be). 5. how is that going to help you with the next person? the next girl is not the same girl. And if they say, they don't like you because you are asian, what are you going to do? Change your race? become a neurosurgeon?!?!? so that you can date a nurse, in america?
I don't understand why you even want to know why. It is what it is.
Love the channel as a Blackman.Blackmen and Asian men have similar problems in dating.
The biggest issue for Asian guys isn't looks or money, but rather their serious attitude. Being serious in a relationship may be a good thing 20 or 30 yrs ago, but nowadays a lot of young women just wanna hang out or play around and don't want to settle down this early in their life, so Asian guys should adapt, change, and play around more as well.
And one of the easiest solutions for Asian American or Asian Canadian men who can't find romance in the US or Canada is to go back to their home country or perhaps to another Asian country to find a partner. It worked for me and for many others.
I've known a number of Asian women in California who married White men. Then for various reasons, the husband would "White Flight" from California, with or without their Asian wife and mixed children. Those who accompanied their husband back to their hometown --- in Ohio for example --- found themselves in an all-White, semi-Redneck community. They and their kids hated it, especially their in-laws and husband's old buddies, so much so, that they quickly returned to California, and eventually remarried Asian men.
I think this is the good point about asian men. Nobody wants to marry a guy who is playing around or who did it in the past. Real women want real men who take responsibility
Just buy the ticket to thailand bro....
It might be about expectations. My parents had different expectations for my exes who were from our culture vs the exes who were not from our culture.
… Now, I ain't sayin' she a gold digger
(When I'm in need) But she ain't messin' with no broke -
(She give me money) Now, I ain't sayin' she a gold digger
(When I'm in need) But she ain't messin' with no broke -
-Ye
7:55 you answered your own question...
You CANT apply eastern dating values in the west, just like you can’t apply western dating values in the East! In the US, don’t get me wrong, women like men to have financial stability but also a bit of edge to them. In the East, not so much.
as an asian woman born in a western country, i still think the race preferences are subjective... but general statistics back then are probably right to a degree... its a popular occurence to see asian women x white men and white women x asian men also black men x asian/latinas and black women x black/latino men. But all in all different people go for different reasons, for me i lean for genuine commitment, communication and care; above money, fame, appearance, race, gender. Dated rich and poor, of diff races and heights... theyre all very different and changes all the time. People change, trends change, so i dont think statistics are reliable. (eg. kpop within the younger gens had boomed all races to date east asians with specific traits). But if we talking about the mass, im sure straight sub women in general would prefer men who are similar or above their own criteria for instinctual compatibility (eg. same or higher in height, same or higher income, same or larger shoe/hand size etc.).
@@P.90.603 lol cant speak for all since im mixed asian 🤷♀
AND WHY DO THEY HAVE EUROPEANS AS SEXIEST OF THE YEAR EVERY DANG TIME IN THE USA… HOW ABOUT - ASIANS, INDIANS, MIDDLE EASTERNS, HISPANICS and even NATIVE AMERICANS??? Also in movies they need more Asian men as main guy. They’re always supporting actors in movies.
Yes, there's higher dating standards for any man who isn't white.
As a 6ft, genY, 5th gen ABC, self made millionaire, the tdlr is yes.
However, as a man with high standards for myself I also have high standards for women. I expect them to be a real woman with responsibilities, under 30, and can respect her man.
Women date and go for what’s trending at moment
If they are able to, it's White guys _cough, cough_ . . . Kamala Harris, Ketanji Brown Jackson, Ilhan Omar, AoC, Tina Turner, Serena Williams, Meghan Merkle, Obama Daughters . . .
It’s about the money nowadays. Looks don’t matter that much as you think. 90% marrying couples are not attractive.
Yes they do
I don’t know I’m Asian and all my ex girlfriends were white ? 😅
247k in 2006, aka almost 400k in todays dollars
7:20 most likely answer you’ll get is that they have a double standard. They’ll say that since Asian culture is more conservative and usually the men pay, they expect that from Asian men, while that culture doesn’t exist in white men. So the difference in behavior lies in different cultural expectations.
That Data is obsolete, 2006 is a different time compared to 2024/25
Yeah that was back then when kpop wasn't so popular
The fact that data even exists, regardless of time period, is ridiculous.
@@strykrpinoy it’s still the issue today with Asian women, not so much with non Asian women
@@Snowkone81racism, classism, and power structure
It’s obsolete and the methodology is sketchy in itself. The general idea that Asian or any minority in general has to be above average to date white women is true though
14:50 Asian women view Asian men in the same way that black men view black women. 😅
@ I don’t think most black men are single. They just aren’t married, but they date around. I see a lot more Asian women willing to date Asian men in 2024, but I think that has a lot more to do with the recent trend of hating on white people than anything else. What happens when white men lose their social capital? They have not much left so it evens out the playing field a bit more.
@@P.90.603check stats, literally half of these Asian american born women are married out
@@yelnatsch517no way, I see way more Asian women with white men than black women with white men except for some Hollywood
Lol white girls are easy, especially on the east coast. Just make them laugh, and they laugh super easily. I grew up in the South (only asian guy in HS of 500) so I was forced to learn
You guys have a lot of work to do. No more self deprecating jokes no more letting other races disrepect your kind without confrontation.
I'm all for it....having an extra 250000 per year is all gravy 😊
Fung bros!
Laughable 😂😂😂
Us asians are 2nd n 3rd class vs white guys! But many Asian men are whimpy with little masculinity!
Why are so many 1st gen. Asian immigrant parents say there is no 1st 2nd 3rd class in America bc we are all immigrants here except for ofc Native Americans? but they do agree with 1st 2nd classes being in Europe?
@ they are naive in many ways!
Typically only in America this is true, but to be fair yeah it’s important to be a well rounded individual.
My opinion: comment #1 Masculine, handsome, good-looking are based on Western standards. The "good-looking" Asian men tend to have more Western features, big eyes, eyelids, more pronounce nosebridge, narrow nose, tall, etc. If Asian guys have Western features, they are barely even with White guys. The Asian guys need to bring more to the table ie, money and status. Exception to this is rare where women, often very independent and confident, who like Asian culture, studied/worked in Asia, are more likely to appreciate the "Asian look." Comment #3 for white women to date/marry Asian men, they are taking a risk, conscious or subconscious. Society, friends and family will judge them. For the risk they take there must be a justifiable reward, ie money and status; otherwise, date/marry white men and no criticism. Comment #4 for Asian women in Western societies it is their ticket to validation and security. They can be whitewashed more than Asian men. Asian women change their surnames to be Smith, Johnson, Jones. On paper, Asian women can blend in as white, "Mrs Jones." Often times that's where the bias begins, on paper, an application, signature, id. Asian men do not have this loophole. Comment #5 Young Asian guys today have it much better than us who came of age in the 80s.
Yes.
It all comes down to looks, social skills and wealth. Not every white guy is a 6'2 chad which would make this study make some sense. Attractive is attractive and comes in many colors.
In Africa, South, East, Southeast Asia, skin creams sell like the proverbial hotcakes.
white guy doesn't need to be 6'2 chad to get girls. i've seen my own asian female friend lusting after a short and average looking white guy on the street, right after she told me she doesn't like asian guys
the point is asian guys have to be wealthier in order to be on the same level of 'attractiveness' as a white guy.
It's funny because I see the complete opposite in Asian countries. I've lived in Japan, Indonesia and I'm now in South Korea. Girls who are into Asian guys here will tolerate the shittiest behaviors from the local men because they happen to have a physical preference for Asian features, when they would never accept that attitude from men from their own countries. It was the same in Japan. I don't know about Indonesia, I was the only bule where I lived. I also see some Asian Americans who come to Korea to have better dating opportunities because that's where a lot of women who like Asian guys are. ^^
I'm curious to see the profiles of the women and men they interviewed for that study though.
Indonesian women like various type white guy.. From the holywood type guy like tom cruise, daniel craig, brad pitt,, etc to old guy type like donald trump or joe biden and average guy like ed sheran or mark zukerberg.. I once saw beautiful early 30's indonesian girl with somebody like jack black (short and fat) in bali..
Wait are u a white guy?
Speakin as a blk man....
NO HATE just ❤ tryin to help my Asian bruhs!
✅️ Ya'll keep placing WHITE DUDES at the center.
✅️ You keep tryin to make make everything into a mathematical scientific equation.
✅️ Asian bruhs.....
just don't place enough emphasis on your looks & how you hold your style.
Stereotyping much? How tf do we make everything into a mathematical scientific equation?
Guess I'm more referencing.....
that professor sayin, *"An Asian guy has to make a certain amount of money just to equal a white guy."* but it seemed like alot of ASIAN BROS were agreeing with it?
@lucastsou7477 Never listen to clowns or you will one day be a clown but wonder why people treat you like a clown.
Lots of poor guys still get lots of dates. Swag matters wayyy more than money.
what swag should people get?
swag is k pop maxxing and white maxing in southeast asia
Only in the short-term.
@@Willxdianasoutheast asians have their own appeal tbh, they were never rlly in the same position as east asians in the past
I’m thinking the same, because when you first meet women, they don’t know how much you make. As long as you have nice clothes and have swag and don’t say nothing goofy, you’ll prob get dates when you’re also confident
Edit: go to any mall, and you’ll see normal guys have normal girlfriends
That was way before BTS kpop kdrama etc 🤭
I think money is part of it but there’s also social class, generational wealth, and clout. White guy might make 65k but she’ll might get treated better socially if she’s with a white family or group. Also, the white family might have money, investment, and asset set aside for him for the future unlike first gen families. At the end of the day, we’re all trying to better ourselves or situation. Each person should do and choose what’s best for them. Asian men, go out and claim yours and don’t get distracted by what other people are doing.
This! We waste too much time trying to understand something that is illogical by nature. Be our most confident selves and don’t give up. Confidence and positivity are universally appreciated.
yep ,The oxford effect is real
That’s why I date white guys too, as an asian guys ❤😊
If you think the tax for Asian men is high you should come and feel the tax black men have to pay. Colorism is ridiculous and lazy but it's in full effect in most places in the world fr
Bruh..... stop da CAP!
Hate when we try to make it sound like.... we get treated a certain way, ONLY because of a skin color.
@@invisiblerevolution There has already been a lot of research on dating preferences and internal research in the dating apps about who gets filtered in and who gets filtered out. Black women is the highest filtered out and black men the second. Those are just facts bro. Google is free you and can use it anytime.
Black men are not seen as long term relationship material and Asian men are not seen as short term relationship material.
Go over seas and you’ll be worshipped.
but I thought SNOW BUNNIES????
Asian people do not like other Asian people: Chinese do not like Japanese, Koreans do not like Chinese and Japanese, etc. The fact that Asian women not liking Asian man, and vice versa is a consequence but not a separate problem. Why would you date somebody who you do not suppose to like? Asian boys should also be more independent, if you fall in love then marry that girl without asking your parents and other 10,000 relatives and neighbors.
As a 42-year old Asian male, I’ve been quite popular on dating apps and I barely spend money on women. In fact, majority of my matches sleep with me the same day
@@Looksmaxxedat42 Where are you located ? Location plays a big factor. You probably won't get any matches in Seattle which l am from.
You don’t spend money on these girls because you’re what they call a Chad. If you are an average man, making average income, working a blue collar job, a woman who may even be rated as low as a 4 will probably not even look at your direction.
In short yes.
There's a perception of Asian men to be 'better' than other men on general. I think it's because Western principles have gotten so lax
Of course they do.
All the Asian guy had to do was crack a joke - I make "$248,000" more a year than this dude and he would have been an instant hit. The point is we Asian's can learn to have a bit more humor instead of standing there and letting in this uncomfortable and derogatory scenario play out.
The "good time to be an Asian man" comments are missing that it's also generation specific. If you're teen or twenty now, yes. If 30s+ (I'm 40s) nothing changed in my experience.
@kaniyama-chairdesklamp in almost any time, putting responsible effort into being extremely above average or maximizing emotional, social, financial, and physical (such as having an elite drug free competitive bodybuilder physique) performance tends to be appealing to most groups of people. Outgoing, well groomed, and extremely jacked Asian guys have already been dating very attractive women of all groups for decades.
Yes... because in the US, people racist. Sorry... seems overly simplified but that's the root.
My sister makes six figures and married a white guy making five figures. She would buy clothes for him as they browsed through the mall. Every day, they'd say, "I love you." Um, then she suddenly divorced him, took the house, and left him alone renting a basement. Everything evens out eventually
Yikes… let me guess, “there were no good people in that fight?” 😅
@@canto_v12 All's fair in love and war
She got what was comings hopefully lessons learn
Asian men need to be better represented in Western media. The media very rarely have Asian men as strong, handsome, or in romantic leads. Media/Hollywood needs to do better for Asian men!
As a 26 year old Asian man I see this as a win win situation, if I dated and found the one it’s a W but if I don’t I still get to keep my looks since most Asians age slowly compared to other races. (Seriously I’ve been told I look like I’m 18 or 19) 😁😅
No imo. Just be normal goddamn it
I’m 5’5 Vietnamese guy that’s in his 30s and I have no problem dating outside my race since middle school lol girls think I look exotic lol
its true
Statistics are bias and inaccurate. Where do they really got the data? Come on, coming from this bias professor ?
Some of us Asians including me do blend in with white people. Most people can't even tell if I'm white or Asian so they just assume I'm white which they aren't wrong considering I do look white even tho I'm only half white. (Technically I'm Wasian).
Luckily I'm 6'1" Asian male, rules didn't apply, phew ...
You are truly an unicorn.😂😂 I haven't seen 6'1 asian dude.
we need more Kpop propaganda lol