I watched nothing in the lead up to tlj. That scene with poe on the intercom had my face in stunned/disgusted disbelief. They seemed to forget they weren't meant to be a bad guardians of the galaxy parody. That "movie" was a disaster@@Jasonvollero
@@Sonny_McMacsson Jar Jar was supposed to be the anti-Yoda; a seemingly goofy creature that was hiding the fact that he was the actual Sith master, above Palpatine. It would have been an incredible rug pull/reveal. There are a few excellent videos about it. A pity that Lucas chickened out from doing it, because it would have been brilliant and elevated the prequel trilogy. No one even considered this top be a possibility until well over a decade after the PT came out.
Just give Kathleen Kennedy a character role in their garbage Star Wars universe and make her the hero of that universe. They have dropped the bar to the ground might as well.
Technically she is now, The palpatine bloodline won and even took over the skywalker name, there is only Rey now. rey is basicly everything now, the sith, the jedi. Kinda sad when you think about it
"Management is never wrong." Rey is actually a perfect character, you're just sexist. Don't forget. They will force her on you just like a Diversity Management hire.
@@raisti6608Technically Sheev Palpatine won as he is the only one left: he told Rey that he would take over her body if she killed him. She killed him and suddenly goes to Tatooine, a planet only Sheev has fond memories of as it was where his gambit started, while Luke hated the place and Leia was never there. So yeah, that was Sheev Palpatine in Rey‘s body starting his new life as soon to be head of whatever perverted „Jedi order“ he could come up with.
Visited the Disney store in Oxford street on the weekend. All they were selling was retro Star Wars memorabilia - didn’t see a Rey figure or reference on the entire Star Wars floor.
That put a smile on my face... on the flip side it might actually be worth it to buy a bunch of the new stuff.. 50 years down the line there wont be any kicking around cause they were all trashed.. Might be worth something.
If there are no Skywalkers left… now it’s “somehow the skywalkers returned” They’ll make it so Luke and Mara Jade hooked up off screen and there’s a new Skywalker baby out there somewhere and they’ll be non-binary and say the binary sums of Tatooine are bigoted
The scariest thing about this is this is a multi-billion dollar IP, and for all the stories they refused to use, all of the amazing EU and 'non-canon' material they dumped, now they have NOTHING. NOTHING.
It's worse, they don't have nothing, they have the shattered fragments of the EU collecting dust in the Disney basement for them to pick broken pieces of whenever they feel like it. "This piece says Thrawn? Ooh, people like him. Can we re-assemble him?" "Sorry sir, all we have is a loose description and his name." "Good enough. We can just mesh him together with this sentence fragment about witches we found earlier and our writer's daycare can fill in the rest!"
How to de-cannonize without actually doing it: Begin the next movie with R2 and 3PO sitting around a camp fire with a bunch of Ewoks.R2 is beep boopin away when 3PO stop him and says something like "What are you talking about?? Thats not how it happened at all!"
BlackRock owns a controlling share in Disney. These are Wall Street investment bankers. Of course they don't care about profits, this is the new economic reality where Wall Street banks print money. Who cares about profits when you can conjure money out of thin air? They care about power and shaping the world according to their ideas and interests.
A rich company like Blackrock are paying Disney to pander to the liberals audience. They may lose revenue, but it does not matter to them because they are still getting paid by Blackrock to pander their political ideology.
She's Sith, her path to the darkside was set. Force Healing, a skill she innately used, was for a very long time a dark-side ability as it was only a temporary fix that needed constant concentration. That and the fact she easily used it, is a hallmark of the dark side.
@@ThatGuyNamedRick Darth Holdo was her Master. Holdo thought she was leading the Resistance to their destruction on Not Hoth. Her “one in a million” Holdo Maneuver was her actually trying to escape.
Well you see the old Jedi were all stupid and morally bankrupt and bad corrupt stupid people anyway. This will be the "right" type of Jedi order. (And George Lucas is the one that set that up, y'all. Not Jar Jar Abrams)
I never watched the final movie of the newest trilogy, I can’t even remember the title unless I were to google it. At this point it’s a badge of honor for me that I have never and will never watch it.
I realized i had to give up on SW when every time they announced a "new" film of "Skywalker Saga", all that happened was I just got more disappointed ahead of time
@@mattharrell4Good choice … I watched it months after cinematic release, knowing it was bad and am still angry about how bad it actually was. Not worth watching at all.
Please let Disney make a Rey movie and a new trilogy for $300+ a pop. Even Disney will eventually run out of money, and even the Blackrock and Vanguard money will dry up. Peace at last.
BR just move money from one of their many companies that are making bank to other ones that aren't. As long as their message of crap infiltrates minds, they don't care. No peace in our timeline.
Exactly if they actually made her look somewhat feminine and attractive this might do some good. But noooooo attractive feminine women are bad they must be manly. I guarantee if Rey looked like that through all the sequel trilogies Star Wars might be in a slightly better place.
How many books / comics / video games have they made on the new trilogy??? They are still pinning all new productions to Return of the Jedi which came out in 1983. That's insane.
@@CleverGirlAAH Then I hope people do not go see it for the more money you give it is a win for KK and must resist the need to go see Darth Revan for what KK has in mind will not be Revan. Plus KK doesn't even know about the Old Republic and since she decanonized the EU Revan is safe from her death touch.
@@RickyUzumaki993 If you are talking about Admiral Blueface from both Rebels and Ahsoka then that is not Thrawn fir that was his moronic cousin. The EU has the Grand Admiral Thrawn, the one that nearly destroyed the New Republic.
Based on the three movies that she's in, the force came very easily to her, and she started to succumb to her emotions... That fear led to anger, and that anger turns her to the dark side, and because she is a palpatine, she is fully corrupted and the pupils that she was teaching have to band together to take her down. And that's off the top of my head
I like the idea of Rey going to the dark side. I agree with another poster who said if this was done, you'd have to be careful not to just reskin the Anakin story. Would her pupils take her down or would they consider themselves heirs to the Skywalker name as well?
In hiding, eh?? It's a little cheap-- but honestly I like it hahaha I can see it working. They're there to steal those jedi books "holocrons" back from her to restore the jedi order.
Push the last 3 movies to the side as the "Disney Canon films", then start from Episode 7 again with the Legends-esque Canon movies. Alden Ehrenreich as Han, Sebastian Stan as Luke and appropriate Leia/Mara Jade/Thrawn castings. Give the trilogy to Christopher Nolan, have him co-write a screenplay with Timothy Zahn, follow the Heir to the Empire - to - The Last Command storylines, ignoring the lesser aspects..... PROFIT!
@@davidstinger1134 They could have had 20 years worth of stories to make into movies and streaming shows and everything else. It could have been a gold mine. Instead, we got Rey.
Christopher Nolan wouldn't want anything to do with it. But there are many a talented script writers and directors out there to do something memorable !
I say bring Thimothy Zahn and George Lucas together to co-write the script, and hire Spielberg for the first one. Have him co-produce it as well, just to work with his old pal George. Even if it doesn't work in the end, it would accomplish many people's wish to see those two working together again, and insures profitability at least for the first movie !
An even worst run studio than sony Anyone who has a hit gets promoted as the next Star Wars creator, and then nothing happens Because they’re following trends instead of creating their own stories Think of an nfl team that constantly overpays for veterans past their prime instead of building through the draft
That thumbnail reminds me of Shad’s (much better) idea for the sequels. Have Rey start out OP and let Finn become a Jedi, have Rey’s talent inflate her ego and push her to the Dark Side before the climax where Finn defeats Rey and helps prevent the rise of Darkness.
Im pretty sure it was the closer look who also had an alternate sequel trilogy where rey turned evil but had a redemption before she turned truly evil. I swear Disney could grab anyone off UA-cam and create a trilogy infinitely better than the one we ended up with.
Still makes me sad to see how bad Disney dropped the ball for every character in that trilogy. It felt like no one had meaningful development or consistent characterization.
Have you seen the Marvel poster where Deadpool replaced She Hulk? I had to laugh. Bought Deadpool and Wolverine and I think it's better than most have critiqued it at. The battle in the mini van was epic.
The OT produced at least 12 iconic characters that became household names even in households that weren't enamored with Star Wars. Like even my Grandfather who fought in WWII and thought movies are a waste of time could name Han, Luke, Princess Leia and Darth Vadar. At a stretch he could name Obiwan and the Droids. And if Yoda, Jabba the Hutt or Boba Fett were in the NYT crossword puzzle he'd probably get it after a think. The Sequels on the other hand produced no iconic character. They are trying to make Rey happen but Disney doesn’t realise its not about "the character" its about "the characterS" and how they relate to each other. Disney failed to build Finn and Poe and Kylo and Maz Kannatta and... anyone. ALL the characters in the Sequel Trilogy were completely disposable and most of them were disposed.
Fin and Po would have been legendary if they had been written right. Having a turned imperial and a badass pilot could have recaptured some of the outlaw/rebel feel from the OT.
@@Valen-mh9fh disagree. They are perfect. How do ppl forget that we had a woman, a black dude, an effeminate droid, and aliens being core to star wars. It's arguably more diverse than we get today. One reason that Star Wars was so relateable is that **everyone** could contribute to the Rebellion, even the weak and nerdy guys who were the target audoence.
If the assertion that Rey is starwars' one remaining asset takes the cake, then you can be sure that it's a New England Cheesecake that is being taken over to the centre table at "the view" where it can be mercilessly devoured by the "modern audience" 🤔
I remember Kathleen Kennedy or somebody on top saying they're not making Star wars for the fans are making Star wars for themselves and that tells you everything you need to know
Even if Andor S2 is good (and it may likely be decent) and I mean really good, it won't be enough to revive Star Wars. Too many are apathetic to Disney Star Wars. Too many have abandoned Disney+ and will not even see the new season of Andor, even if word of mouth is good. Disney does not seem to understand (or refuses to) that those currently in charge/entrenched at Lucasfilm are not capable of delivering something the fans want... it always takes someone outside of Lucasfilm (John Favreau, Tony Gilroy) to deliver something the fans might be interested in. Anything with Rey at the center is dead on arrival. Star Wars must pass out of Disney's hands for there to be any chance and Disney will never let it go without something "catastrophic" happening to the company 1st.
I hate to admit this, but I think she might be an asset to Star Wars. But I _don't_ mean that as a compliment. Rather, that's how far the franchise has fallen since Disney took over.
There's no way to fix the current SW timeline through writing. Not without pretending that the sequels were some sort of Force premonition of the worst possible outcome.
To answer Brooks question. Create a series that expands Reys arch. It might retcon a few things, but now the cat's out of tue bag give her back story. How did she end up on the planet? How is she kin to Sidious? Where are her parents? Insert some training and character development. Remove the Mary Sue power buff and giver her flaws. If that successful do the same with the other players. If you think about it. All her peers in those movies except rose has the potential for an extremely badass hero's journey.
I'd say with some thought put into it, you could make Rose Tico a decent character - trying to live up to her sister's image, or struggling to live in her shadow, having to live without a sibling, or having to face the fact that she sometimes have bad judgment (knocking Finn away from his target when he was about to sacrifice himself, etc.). All the characters could work if they had the work put into them TO work, by someone who knows how to do it.
I think you are right about this. Do you think it changes things if Rey opens a school and trains Jedi/Sith or do you think that kind of story is still in danger of becoming a reskinned Anakin story?
What they should do is turn Rey into a crazy person that tried to murder one of her old friends then have her feel so bad about it that she runs away and isn't heard from for many many years and then have her only come back in episode 10 at the very end for like 2 seconds, just enough to see she is there. Then in Episode 11, they should kill her off because she Forced too hard. Do that, and then all the wokesters that claim those movies were great and well written will understand the frustration and disappointment of every true Star Wars fan who saw it happend to THEIR childhood hero. Except it would only be a fraction of the frustration because Rey got a new movie shat out a few years later while the OG fans had to wait DECADES for it. OG fans could've seen a new the original Star Wars movie when they were 10 years old, and have GREAT GRANDCHILDREN by now it has been so long. Not just grandkids, but great grandkids. That is how much time people waited for new Star Wars movies and a continuation to Luke's story. If they did that to Rey, the liberal wokesters would lose their minds like Donald Trump won the election all over again. And it's not like they actually care about Star Wars or would watch it, they just want to have their strong female protagonist replacing male characters. They don't care what she does beyond that.
Andor is the only one I'm looking forward to. Because it actually looks and feels like Star Wars and not someone's idiological circle jerk. It has a story which is good enough to keep me invested and it has characters that are interesting.
Rey is a poorly developed character designed to send a message that one gender is superior physically, emotionally and mentally, and played by an actor of privilege and family connections, who is wooden and of little talent as is proved by her lack of roles since the trilogy.
How I would fix star wars Establish Star Wars Infinities, the Lucas era will be the main timeline The disney timeline will be an alternative timeline no one would touch again Put the Character of Ahsoka on ice for a few years Go into the Old Republic era and make a Revan Trilogy.
I would love to see the Star Wars Infinites comics adapted as movies. Animated films preferably. The comics already adopted the original trilogy. I'd love to see what could happen with AUs of the prequel trilogy. Even AUs of the sequel trilogy could prove interesting.
You know we're getting a live-action How to train your Dragon remake next year? Dreamworks, just because we're sick of Disney remaking their animated cannon into live action, doesn't give you permission to do the same.
Without decanonizing anything. I'd RE-CANONIZE the force unleashed story. Tweak the writing a bit to account for the new origin for the rebellion. And just make a series around starkiller and bring in his actor as the main protag. Seeing as he's been with star wars anyway since darth maul.
They aren't wrong in the Rey is the only cinematic character they've got at their disposal becasue they killed everyone else off or characters got relegated to back ground and the cup board is completely bare. Their only choice is to recast the roles of the big three to younger actors to do something prior to the creative black hole that is the ST or do a big time jump backwards or forwards. If it was me I'd do a faithful adapation of the EU Darth Bane trilogy EU books set a thousand years before TPM. But that would mean LucasFIlm having to swallow their pride and acknowledge yes they do have source material to draw from.
Full disclosure: I don’t dislike Rey, but I completely understand where the hate comes from. She had almost no training, other than like a week with Luke, but yet she already seemed to do most things better than every Jedi who came before her.
There's legends like Luke, Han and Leia. And then there's phonies, like Rey that shouldn't be looked on like they are special, they definitely aren't! 😡😡😡😡😡
For the love of God stop calling it the Skywalker saga somebody else can't come in 20 years after the story is done add three movies and say that it's a part of the original story.
A movie of how Kathleen/Disney destroyed the franchise would be levels above anything a writer could come up with whilst keeping the Disney 'canon' in place.
Im convinced KK is purposely trying to kill Star Wars. Nobody can be that self centered, right? She knows damn well Rey is a horrible character. She knows that the trilogy Disney made is horrible, and doesn’t make sense as a stand alone trilogy, and especially doesn’t make sense in the entire franchise. It’s as if she never watched episodes 1-6, and just went based off what someone that isn’t a big fan could describe in 5 minutes. I don’t understand what Disney is thinking. This seems very intentional.
Lets start a petition for Sidney Sweeney to play a boundy hunter in a gruff grounded Star Wars Movie where she has to do a job for some high criminal kingpin alien (no Jedi, maybe sith, include some driod companions, have a complicated backstory, because you know she's a bounty hunter) and nothing goes right for her. Even fully clothed, I think she'd fill more seats in the theatre (in my opinion she's a better actor than Daisy Ridley regardless)
The cutting of She-Hulk from Deadpool 3 was actually a joke the She-Hulk actress made on a pod cast. She said she made it up and wondered if the internet would pick it up as true, on the pod cast itself.
Bring out a new Solo movie where he and Chewbacca are doing what they do best, being smugglers. No love interest, nothing like that but just those two against the Galaxy. That's how it was before he met up with Luke and Kenobi. If done right, that would be an amazing film to see. Just my two cents.
For me, Rogue Squadron was a home run. My thinking is they deserted it, when they tried to completely ignore legends, and then released they were setting themselves up for failure. Instead, they should embrace legends, and make Rogue Squadron a TV show roughly in line with the books - maybe get rid of the force stuff for Corran Horn. Otherwise, I think it would be great. They can even use Dedra Meero from Andor to replace the Ysanne Isaard character as they are basically the same person.
Literally "EVERY" single woman in my life.....from immediate relative to coworkers to friends to wives of friends to sisters of friends, etc.... has actively told me either on their own or in response to me asking....... that they hate the Rey character and find it to be ridiculous and bad writing and an insulting violation trope that ruins not just womanhood....but also repels them away from the Star Wars franchise. That character is not inspiring, it is not respected, it is not endearing, it is not impactful, it is not consistent with existing lore, it is not genuine, it is not cool. Women hate that character..... women don't want that character.... women are disappointed by that character. Anyone who works at the mouse-ear mega corporation who even mentions the name of that character should immediately be fired and physically thrown out of the premises.
As long as they keep holding on to the Didney Wars continuity, things are going to continue to fail. They need to declare everything they've made so far non-canon and return to Legends Canon, just as most fans have. They are deep, deep, *deep* in sunk cost fallacy at this point, and they desperately need to shake it.
Best way to fix Rey: go full Palpatine After Rey said "Rey Skywalker", pause; red glow in her eyes going brighter as it fades to black with Palpatine cackling in the background getting louder.
If she were a Star Wars fan, she would have known Jar Jar & Ruin were serving her a turd on a silver platter. But as an actress, and a human being ... yeah, she deserved better!
@@npwarr2651that’s the modern feminist hero. You are all things necessary at all times, and all events revolve around you, even though you aren’t actually doing anything most of the time.
The sad thing is, i really liked Daisy Ridley as an actress, but Disney had to screw everything up with The Message. I also really liked Finn and his potential which was also ruined.
Let's be honest. The only good quality about rey is that she's physically attractive. She seemed like a nice, down to earth girl in the first movie but they ruined that image in the following 2 movies. They need to accept the fact that they ruined the character and move on.
A long time ago, on a channel far, far away, a little sketch comedy group called Studio C did a skit about how Lucas Films was going to end up making a Star Wars movie for every single character who appeared in the movies, including each and every stormtrooper. Apparently Disney saw that skit and decided it was a good idea.
They do have some of a point. Every woman I've spoken to loved rey even if they disliked the sequels. I'd say that means there is at least some unmined potential, but given how the sequels have turned out thats a really rocky start especially when theres no new rey content that brings the character back into a setting with good reception.
The reaction to the Rey movie confirms that Star Wars fans have reached peak apathy.
They lost my kids after TLJ We haven’t watch anything since
Complete disinterest
I watched nothing in the lead up to tlj. That scene with poe on the intercom had my face in stunned/disgusted disbelief. They seemed to forget they weren't meant to be a bad guardians of the galaxy parody. That "movie" was a disaster@@Jasonvollero
What movie?
Apathy is death, worse the death. For at least a corpse feeds the beasts. - Treya
which means their plan is working
She's K.K.'s self-projection. Of course that's the party line.
I think we treated Jar Jar too harshly
@@IStealButterdToast It turned out Jar Jar was George's self-projection.
@@Sonny_McMacsson Jar Jar was supposed to be the anti-Yoda; a seemingly goofy creature that was hiding the fact that he was the actual Sith master, above Palpatine. It would have been an incredible rug pull/reveal. There are a few excellent videos about it. A pity that Lucas chickened out from doing it, because it would have been brilliant and elevated the prequel trilogy. No one even considered this top be a possibility until well over a decade after the PT came out.
Just give Kathleen Kennedy a character role in their garbage Star Wars universe and make her the hero of that universe. They have dropped the bar to the ground might as well.
@@jetuber It's just a fan theory and no, it wouldn't have worked. No one would take him seriously.
They don't just believe Rey is an asset to _Star Wars_ . To them, Rey _IS_ _Star Wars_
Technically she is now, The palpatine bloodline won and even took over the skywalker name, there is only Rey now. rey is basicly everything now, the sith, the jedi.
Kinda sad when you think about it
"Management is never wrong." Rey is actually a perfect character, you're just sexist. Don't forget. They will force her on you just like a Diversity Management hire.
Nailed it
Thats a scary statement
@@raisti6608Technically Sheev Palpatine won as he is the only one left: he told Rey that he would take over her body if she killed him. She killed him and suddenly goes to Tatooine, a planet only Sheev has fond memories of as it was where his gambit started, while Luke hated the place and Leia was never there. So yeah, that was Sheev Palpatine in Rey‘s body starting his new life as soon to be head of whatever perverted „Jedi order“ he could come up with.
Visited the Disney store in Oxford street on the weekend. All they were selling was retro Star Wars memorabilia - didn’t see a Rey figure or reference on the entire Star Wars floor.
Did you check the dumpster behind the building? I heard that's where they store sequel merch nowadays.
@ to not find anything in the store shows the direction they’re heading. Hopefully it’s a positive sign.
That put a smile on my face... on the flip side it might actually be worth it to buy a bunch of the new stuff.. 50 years down the line there wont be any kicking around cause they were all trashed.. Might be worth something.
@@Adeus555Ah, the E.T. game strategy
Hasbro doesn't have enough money left in their accounts to produce more unsellable toys.
Somehow Rey Palpatine returned.
Announced on UA-cam? Fortnite or gtfo
Kathleen Palpatine
Haha 🤣
If there are no Skywalkers left… now it’s “somehow the skywalkers returned”
They’ll make it so Luke and Mara Jade hooked up off screen and there’s a new Skywalker baby out there somewhere and they’ll be non-binary and say the binary sums of Tatooine are bigoted
🤣
The scariest thing about this is this is a multi-billion dollar IP, and for all the stories they refused to use, all of the amazing EU and 'non-canon' material they dumped, now they have NOTHING. NOTHING.
They didn't dump the EU. They dumped the good parts and made the garbage parts worse
It's good they pretend those things don't exist. Look what they did to my boy Thrawn!
Well, that's what happens when you don't understand the lore and blame the fans that have been fans from 1977-2015
It's worse, they don't have nothing, they have the shattered fragments of the EU collecting dust in the Disney basement for them to pick broken pieces of whenever they feel like it.
"This piece says Thrawn? Ooh, people like him. Can we re-assemble him?"
"Sorry sir, all we have is a loose description and his name."
"Good enough. We can just mesh him together with this sentence fragment about witches we found earlier and our writer's daycare can fill in the rest!"
KK said there are no books to follow. 😂
All Skywalkers are now dead. It will not be a new Skywalker saga
Never heard about "multiverses"? 😂😂
That's actually very sad that there are no descendants of Luke, Leia or Han. Disrespect.
And the Solo name.
@@NielsenDK-1Oh, don't scare me like that man. That's all we need.
The Skywalkers are Dead. The Palpatines are Fuel. The Sith Is Full.
How to de-cannonize without actually doing it: Begin the next movie with R2 and 3PO sitting around a camp fire with a bunch of Ewoks.R2 is beep boopin away when 3PO stop him and says something like "What are you talking about?? Thats not how it happened at all!"
Brilliant.
His NVRAM was corrupted by a space virus. Like a digital gonorrhea. 😂
This is as bad as the "it was all a dream" trope.
Just after the credits have finished rolling it cuts to Yoda shaking his head and saying;
"Difficult to see, the future is."
@@pascalsimioli6777 Id rather pretend the sequel films were a bad dream...
I'd like to see a new character say "HOME..." and drive home to find rey's skeleton on the steps of Luke's house.
With empty pill boxes strewn about
I guess Disney really hates money.
BlackRock owns a controlling share in Disney. These are Wall Street investment bankers. Of course they don't care about profits, this is the new economic reality where Wall Street banks print money. Who cares about profits when you can conjure money out of thin air? They care about power and shaping the world according to their ideas and interests.
A rich company like Blackrock are paying Disney to pander to the liberals audience. They may lose revenue, but it does not matter to them because they are still getting paid by Blackrock to pander their political ideology.
They just love wokeness more.
They hate good characters.
Hates business the most,being a business is about more than money. Its about winning over everyone else. But they love losing.😂😂😂
5:03 is Rey even a Jedi? If the Jedi council was still around, I don’t believe they would say that she is.
She never did any of the trials or tests and 'completed' Jedi training in a week (no idea how much time passes in the ST).
You may sit on this council per Kathleen Kennedy's request, but we only grant you rank of "fan fiction"
She's Sith, her path to the darkside was set. Force Healing, a skill she innately used, was for a very long time a dark-side ability as it was only a temporary fix that needed constant concentration. That and the fact she easily used it, is a hallmark of the dark side.
@@ThatGuyNamedRick Darth Holdo was her Master. Holdo thought she was leading the Resistance to their destruction on Not Hoth. Her “one in a million” Holdo Maneuver was her actually trying to escape.
Well you see the old Jedi were all stupid and morally bankrupt and bad corrupt stupid people anyway. This will be the "right" type of Jedi order. (And George Lucas is the one that set that up, y'all. Not Jar Jar Abrams)
I can't wait to not watch any of those new SW movies.
I never watched the final movie of the newest trilogy, I can’t even remember the title unless I were to google it. At this point it’s a badge of honor for me that I have never and will never watch it.
😂😂😂
I realized i had to give up on SW when every time they announced a "new" film of "Skywalker Saga", all that happened was I just got more disappointed ahead of time
@@mattharrell4Good choice … I watched it months after cinematic release, knowing it was bad and am still angry about how bad it actually was. Not worth watching at all.
@@mattharrell4 Never seen The Last Jedi or The Rise of Palpatine. ahead of the curve as always :)
Please let Disney make a Rey movie and a new trilogy for $300+ a pop. Even Disney will eventually run out of money, and even the Blackrock and Vanguard money will dry up. Peace at last.
BR just move money from one of their many companies that are making bank to other ones that aren't. As long as their message of crap infiltrates minds, they don't care. No peace in our timeline.
The Blackrock money will never dry up that's the point... they're there to propagate the madness.
The problem is that the BR and VG money is mostly baby boomer retirement funds, and when that runs out, chaos will explode on a planetary scale.
Nope, theyr stock price is high and they have unlimited power to make turds
The Dark Rey Thumbnail is Fire :)🔥
Exactly if they actually made her look somewhat feminine and attractive this might do some good. But noooooo attractive feminine women are bad they must be manly. I guarantee if Rey looked like that through all the sequel trilogies Star Wars might be in a slightly better place.
Notice that it wasn’t made by Disney.
Glad I found this comment, was thinking the same thing 🤩 would totally watch a Rey movie if she looked like that!
@@clancydowrca The androgynous character archetype is disgusting
I want males to look masculine and females to look feminine
I think they should make a Jabba the Hutt and Kay Vess movie. Mauler would love that.
You mean he would go completely insane at the stupidity and the blatant disrespect of Jabba The Hutt? Then yes Mauler will love....to hate it.
They could also make a new X-wing game with Jabba as the pilot. I'd play the shit out of that.
Imagine the raunchy, steamy sex scenes.
It might kill him.
How many books / comics / video games have they made on the new trilogy??? They are still pinning all new productions to Return of the Jedi which came out in 1983. That's insane.
Enough a near century of Star Wars entertainment.
They'll abandon it soon and make Old Republic things before long... they have to ruin that next.
@@CleverGirlAAH Then I hope people do not go see it for the more money you give it is a win for KK and must resist the need to go see Darth Revan for what KK has in mind will not be Revan.
Plus KK doesn't even know about the Old Republic and since she decanonized the EU Revan is safe from her death touch.
@@JustTooDamnHonest
I thought that about Thrawn…
@@RickyUzumaki993 If you are talking about Admiral Blueface from both Rebels and Ahsoka then that is not Thrawn fir that was his moronic cousin.
The EU has the Grand Admiral Thrawn, the one that nearly destroyed the New Republic.
Based on the three movies that she's in, the force came very easily to her, and she started to succumb to her emotions... That fear led to anger, and that anger turns her to the dark side, and because she is a palpatine, she is fully corrupted and the pupils that she was teaching have to band together to take her down.
And that's off the top of my head
I like the idea of Rey going to the dark side. I agree with another poster who said if this was done, you'd have to be careful not to just reskin the Anakin story. Would her pupils take her down or would they consider themselves heirs to the Skywalker name as well?
Make the lot of them fall to the dark side and introduce Jade and Kenobi Skywalker to come out of hiding and destroy her Palpatine order.
@@curtbalch2321 I have no idea who Jade and Kenobi Skywalker are, but I like this idea.
In hiding, eh?? It's a little cheap-- but honestly I like it hahaha I can see it working.
They're there to steal those jedi books "holocrons" back from her to restore the jedi order.
@@CleverGirlAAH Stealing for the light side of the force. lol Re-allocating, for the general good.
I'm more excited that this video was posted two minutes ago than about anything related to Star Wars projects.
I’m still waiting for the announcement for the new Untitled Rose Tico trilogy. That would be par for the course at this point.
Maybe that'll be what Rian Johnson's films are all about.
Starwars would be more valuable as a brand if Disney had literally made nothing.
Makes sense, rarity is kinda why things have value in the first place
🎯💯
I love how everyone someone says “Star Wars Trilogy” the first reaction is laughter
Mostly because that has not been applicable to the franchise since 1998, and because there's never going to be another trilogy made after the sequels.
Rey isn't an asset she's Disney's biggest liability. 🎉
I think Rachel Zegler holds that title.
Nah, that title remains in the hands of Darth KK.
Nah thats Rachel Zelgar
I would rather watch jar jar than anything with Rey in it , and that would be a hard watch
Agreed
Oof. Disagree. Though I understand the sentiment haha
I would just rather stay home ans read a book than go to the theaters for either.
I think most sane people would rather watch Jar Jar take a dump or kiss a Wookie than see a Ray Palpatine trilogy.
A Jar Jar movie in which jar jar has a full joker arc and goes from comedian to resistance leader
Rey and KK are literally the "Worst things that ever happened to Star Wars".
Tomorrow Disney announces that a Poe Dameron trilogy is in the works directed by Tim Burton
Multiverse star Wars, Beetlejuice enters Disney Star Wars.
Space-balls is a truer likeness of Star Wars and it's a comedic parody movie!
The list of yet-to-happen Disney Star Wars films is getting dangerously close to Chris Jericho's List of 1004 Holds
Rey Palpatine: "Armbar!"
That was when Chris became a good character, that gimmick was hilarious
Push the last 3 movies to the side as the "Disney Canon films", then start from Episode 7 again with the Legends-esque Canon movies. Alden Ehrenreich as Han, Sebastian Stan as Luke and appropriate Leia/Mara Jade/Thrawn castings.
Give the trilogy to Christopher Nolan, have him co-write a screenplay with Timothy Zahn, follow the Heir to the Empire - to - The Last Command storylines, ignoring the lesser aspects..... PROFIT!
Nah too many straight white males
Thrawn > New Jedi Order > Legacy of the Force > Fate of the Jedi
That's material for like 4 trilogies right there.
@@davidstinger1134 They could have had 20 years worth of stories to make into movies and streaming shows and everything else. It could have been a gold mine. Instead, we got Rey.
Christopher Nolan wouldn't want anything to do with it. But there are many a talented script writers and directors out there to do something memorable !
I say bring Thimothy Zahn and George Lucas together to co-write the script, and hire Spielberg for the first one. Have him co-produce it as well, just to work with his old pal George. Even if it doesn't work in the end, it would accomplish many people's wish to see those two working together again, and insures profitability at least for the first movie !
Rey is an asset like a rusted out 1990 Toyota Camry that doesn't start, good for a least a few bucks scrap metal. That's about it.
Now that is both a beautiful metaphor and 100% accurate. You are a contender for winning the internet today.
There's more money in Episode 10 and make fun of the previous craziness as a fever dream. "And Then They Woke up"
An even worst run studio than sony
Anyone who has a hit gets promoted as the next Star Wars creator, and then nothing happens
Because they’re following trends instead of creating their own stories
Think of an nfl team that constantly overpays for veterans past their prime instead of building through the draft
A what?
That thumbnail reminds me of Shad’s (much better) idea for the sequels. Have Rey start out OP and let Finn become a Jedi, have Rey’s talent inflate her ego and push her to the Dark Side before the climax where Finn defeats Rey and helps prevent the rise of Darkness.
no Booger sucks and he is the one who killed Star Wars, he killed Pacific Rim as well
Im pretty sure it was the closer look who also had an alternate sequel trilogy where rey turned evil but had a redemption before she turned truly evil. I swear Disney could grab anyone off UA-cam and create a trilogy infinitely better than the one we ended up with.
Still makes me sad to see how bad Disney dropped the ball for every character in that trilogy. It felt like no one had meaningful development or consistent characterization.
Like Star Wars Theory! Also who the hell is Booger? Does he mean Boogie?
@@doopdoopdopdop7424 Finn's actor I just call him Booger cause his acting is as entertaining as a Snotcicle
I promise I can make a better Star Wars movie than Disney with my iPhone. I’m not even joking
I believe you.
@ lol I’m so serious. I might need to just do a fan film
Only if you have a whole bunch of Star Wars action figures.
I'm done, the only way they are going to learn is to lose customers. A lot of them.
I am afraid if there were only maybe 300 people in each state at the most that watched their Star Wars projects they would still keep making them.
They should have gone with Jacen and Jaina Solo. Not Ben and Rey.
Might as well give Star Wars to Todd Philips and make a musical 😂
"Luke be a Jedi tonight, Luke be a Jedi tonigggghhhhhtttttttt...." 🎶 🎶
Star Wars: Part Deuche.
A sequel to the Holiday Special! Can Daisy Ridley hold a tune?
All the Skywalkers are dead. You can't continue the "Skywalker Saga" without any Skywalkers.
But Rey became a skywalker at the end because… i don’t know she just did
Have you seen the Marvel poster where Deadpool replaced She Hulk? I had to laugh. Bought Deadpool and Wolverine and I think it's better than most have critiqued it at. The battle in the mini van was epic.
The OT produced at least 12 iconic characters that became household names even in households that weren't enamored with Star Wars. Like even my Grandfather who fought in WWII and thought movies are a waste of time could name Han, Luke, Princess Leia and Darth Vadar. At a stretch he could name Obiwan and the Droids. And if Yoda, Jabba the Hutt or Boba Fett were in the NYT crossword puzzle he'd probably get it after a think. The Sequels on the other hand produced no iconic character. They are trying to make Rey happen but Disney doesn’t realise its not about "the character" its about "the characterS" and how they relate to each other. Disney failed to build Finn and Poe and Kylo and Maz Kannatta and... anyone. ALL the characters in the Sequel Trilogy were completely disposable and most of them were disposed.
Fin and Po would have been legendary if they had been written right. Having a turned imperial and a badass pilot could have recaptured some of the outlaw/rebel feel from the OT.
@@morganseppy5180their both male and the wrong colour unfortunately (one for Hollywood sensibilities, and the other for certain foreign markets).
@@Valen-mh9fh disagree. They are perfect. How do ppl forget that we had a woman, a black dude, an effeminate droid, and aliens being core to star wars. It's arguably more diverse than we get today. One reason that Star Wars was so relateable is that **everyone** could contribute to the Rebellion, even the weak and nerdy guys who were the target audoence.
“Disney, stop trying to make Rey happen. It’s not going to happen.”
@@PowerfulLeadahYas-Yas I had to search up who Maz Kanata even was lol
That's a great list of Disney acceptable creators near the start.
A perfect list of warnings against soya, plastics and phytoestrogens.
They're going to shoehorn her into the role that used to be filled in the EU by GRAND MASTER Luke, and it's going to be horrendous.
If the assertion that Rey is starwars' one remaining asset takes the cake, then you can be sure that it's a New England Cheesecake that is being taken over to the centre table at "the view" where it can be mercilessly devoured by the "modern audience" 🤔
The thumbnail is on point though...
I hope they release a movie about my favorite Star Wars character Glup Shitto soon
I remember Kathleen Kennedy or somebody on top saying they're not making Star wars for the fans are making Star wars for themselves and that tells you everything you need to know
Ngl tho, that thumbnail is hot af.
I love Daisy Ridley, she would've made a great Bastilla
Even if Andor S2 is good (and it may likely be decent) and I mean really good, it won't be enough to revive Star Wars. Too many are apathetic to Disney Star Wars. Too many have abandoned Disney+ and will not even see the new season of Andor, even if word of mouth is good. Disney does not seem to understand (or refuses to) that those currently in charge/entrenched at Lucasfilm are not capable of delivering something the fans want... it always takes someone outside of Lucasfilm (John Favreau, Tony Gilroy) to deliver something the fans might be interested in. Anything with Rey at the center is dead on arrival. Star Wars must pass out of Disney's hands for there to be any chance and Disney will never let it go without something "catastrophic" happening to the company 1st.
I hate to admit this, but I think she might be an asset to Star Wars. But I _don't_ mean that as a compliment.
Rather, that's how far the franchise has fallen since Disney took over.
Don't think you know what asset means.
I think what you mean is she's a liability.
Waititi SW movie has to be the biggest travesty I can imagine
Waitti bringing his marvel rock character to his Star Wars world.
Dear Disney,
Stop trying to make Rey happen.
~everyone
There's no way to fix the current SW timeline through writing. Not without pretending that the sequels were some sort of Force premonition of the worst possible outcome.
To answer Brooks question. Create a series that expands Reys arch. It might retcon a few things, but now the cat's out of tue bag give her back story. How did she end up on the planet? How is she kin to Sidious? Where are her parents? Insert some training and character development. Remove the Mary Sue power buff and giver her flaws. If that successful do the same with the other players. If you think about it. All her peers in those movies except rose has the potential for an extremely badass hero's journey.
I'd say with some thought put into it, you could make Rose Tico a decent character - trying to live up to her sister's image, or struggling to live in her shadow, having to live without a sibling, or having to face the fact that she sometimes have bad judgment (knocking Finn away from his target when he was about to sacrifice himself, etc.). All the characters could work if they had the work put into them TO work, by someone who knows how to do it.
Maybe Rey going to the dark side would make for a good series, but then you would have to make it so she isn't just an Anakin reskin
I think you are right about this. Do you think it changes things if Rey opens a school and trains Jedi/Sith or do you think that kind of story is still in danger of becoming a reskinned Anakin story?
An evil Disney princess would be different, though who would be the 'goody'?
Would have to be another female character in Disney LucasFilm.
@@Valen-mh9fh Seems like a fitting rival for a charmed Mary Sue would be some unlucky loser. I don't know if that fits the Disney Message either.
Daisy Ridley's severe face can't sell a new set of films, never gonna happen.
All I want is another season of Andor, the rest of Star Wars is dead to me. They somehow even managed to completely ruin Mandelorian.
WE DO NOT NEED 12 STAR WARS MOVIES
Especially since at this point, we have had three great SW movies, 3 OK SW movies, and then a heap of trash that is larger than the good ones.
At this rate, we’re not getting 12 mainline Star Wars movies
And we wont get 12.
They want to throw everything but what majority wants and will throw a toxic social media spat when they bomb.
We already have them. 9 episodes, 2 spinoffs and The Clone Wars movie.
This is like Subway bringing Jared back and expecting me to be excited...
What they should do is turn Rey into a crazy person that tried to murder one of her old friends then have her feel so bad about it that she runs away and isn't heard from for many many years and then have her only come back in episode 10 at the very end for like 2 seconds, just enough to see she is there. Then in Episode 11, they should kill her off because she Forced too hard.
Do that, and then all the wokesters that claim those movies were great and well written will understand the frustration and disappointment of every true Star Wars fan who saw it happend to THEIR childhood hero. Except it would only be a fraction of the frustration because Rey got a new movie shat out a few years later while the OG fans had to wait DECADES for it. OG fans could've seen a new the original Star Wars movie when they were 10 years old, and have GREAT GRANDCHILDREN by now it has been so long. Not just grandkids, but great grandkids. That is how much time people waited for new Star Wars movies and a continuation to Luke's story.
If they did that to Rey, the liberal wokesters would lose their minds like Donald Trump won the election all over again. And it's not like they actually care about Star Wars or would watch it, they just want to have their strong female protagonist replacing male characters. They don't care what she does beyond that.
Andor is the only one I'm looking forward to. Because it actually looks and feels like Star Wars and not someone's idiological circle jerk. It has a story which is good enough to keep me invested and it has characters that are interesting.
Nothing but pure apathy is left and all this proves is that KK never had a plan to begin with and that she is desperate for anything at this point.
That thumbnail looks way cooler than anything Star Wars has done recently.
Absolutely not, she is not an asset, her character is complete trash.
Rey is a poorly developed character designed to send a message that one gender is superior physically, emotionally and mentally, and played by an actor of privilege and family connections, who is wooden and of little talent as is proved by her lack of roles since the trilogy.
How I would fix star wars
Establish Star Wars Infinities, the Lucas era will be the main timeline
The disney timeline will be an alternative timeline no one would touch again
Put the Character of Ahsoka on ice for a few years
Go into the Old Republic era and make a Revan Trilogy.
I would love to see the Star Wars Infinites comics adapted as movies. Animated films preferably.
The comics already adopted the original trilogy. I'd love to see what could happen with AUs of the prequel trilogy. Even AUs of the sequel trilogy could prove interesting.
Just go with the "it was all a dream!"""
The Star Wars movies I'd make:
1. Debbie does Degobah.
2. Dora explores Hoth.
3. Toothless and the 2nd to last Jedi.
You know we're getting a live-action How to train your Dragon remake next year?
Dreamworks, just because we're sick of Disney remaking their animated cannon into live action, doesn't give you permission to do the same.
If I got to make a show/movie, I would make it an R-rated clone story. Like Platoon.
Without decanonizing anything.
I'd RE-CANONIZE the force unleashed story. Tweak the writing a bit to account for the new origin for the rebellion.
And just make a series around starkiller and bring in his actor as the main protag. Seeing as he's been with star wars anyway since darth maul.
Make Rey the villain. Make her actually a real Sith who managed to actually tarnish the Skywalker name.
I think Anakin may have already tarnished the Skywalker name.😂
@@rawhead3752 and then Luke restored it.
They should make luke wake up and eps 7,8,9 are a force dream. And the next trilogy should be him making sure none of that shit ever happens again.
6:51 Nintendo should hire Sidney Sweeney to play Samus Aran should they ever make a live action movie.
I mean... if she'll look like in the thumbnail, SIGN ME UP!
Rey Palpatine's Jedi Re-education School
They aren't wrong in the Rey is the only cinematic character they've got at their disposal becasue they killed everyone else off or characters got relegated to back ground and the cup board is completely bare. Their only choice is to recast the roles of the big three to younger actors to do something prior to the creative black hole that is the ST or do a big time jump backwards or forwards. If it was me I'd do a faithful adapation of the EU Darth Bane trilogy EU books set a thousand years before TPM. But that would mean LucasFIlm having to swallow their pride and acknowledge yes they do have source material to draw from.
Full disclosure: I don’t dislike Rey, but I completely understand where the hate comes from. She had almost no training, other than like a week with Luke, but yet she already seemed to do most things better than every Jedi who came before her.
The only thing I really liked about Rey is Daisy Ridley.
There's legends like Luke, Han and Leia. And then there's phonies, like Rey that shouldn't be looked on like they are special, they definitely aren't! 😡😡😡😡😡
For the love of God stop calling it the Skywalker saga somebody else can't come in 20 years after the story is done add three movies and say that it's a part of the original story.
A movie of how Kathleen/Disney destroyed the franchise would be levels above anything a writer could come up with whilst keeping the Disney 'canon' in place.
Im convinced KK is purposely trying to kill Star Wars.
Nobody can be that self centered, right?
She knows damn well Rey is a horrible character. She knows that the trilogy Disney made is horrible, and doesn’t make sense as a stand alone trilogy, and especially doesn’t make sense in the entire franchise.
It’s as if she never watched episodes 1-6, and just went based off what someone that isn’t a big fan could describe in 5 minutes.
I don’t understand what Disney is thinking. This seems very intentional.
I like Jedi Brooks - he's got a very smooth and soothing voice.
Either a Rey's Jedi Order Timeline, or Another Tie-In to Rise of Skywalker Disguise as a Streaming Show.
Lesson one: believe you can do it.
Lesson two: you've done it.
Congratulations, you're a Jedi!
The thumbnail depicts version of the character that would be unironically thousands times more interesting than what we've got.
Lets start a petition for Sidney Sweeney to play a boundy hunter in a gruff grounded Star Wars Movie where she has to do a job for some high criminal kingpin alien (no Jedi, maybe sith, include some driod companions, have a complicated backstory, because you know she's a bounty hunter) and nothing goes right for her. Even fully clothed, I think she'd fill more seats in the theatre (in my opinion she's a better actor than Daisy Ridley regardless)
I hope she's not too fully clothed 😉
The cutting of She-Hulk from Deadpool 3 was actually a joke the She-Hulk actress made on a pod cast. She said she made it up and wondered if the internet would pick it up as true, on the pod cast itself.
Bring out a new Solo movie where he and Chewbacca are doing what they do best, being smugglers. No love interest, nothing like that but just those two against the Galaxy. That's how it was before he met up with Luke and Kenobi. If done right, that would be an amazing film to see. Just my two cents.
If they incorporate the best parts of a Han book series that came out before Disney owned Star Wars then the movie would actually be likeable.
@@keithpace9870 best parts are already retconned.
How about no. They shouldn’t exist outside the original trilogy. If they had reason to Lucas would have started with that story
Ok but don't hire that guy who played him in solo a star wars story. Hire a guy that at least looks like Harrison Ford.
I feel like Solo should have been a series and not a movie.
For me, Rogue Squadron was a home run. My thinking is they deserted it, when they tried to completely ignore legends, and then released they were setting themselves up for failure.
Instead, they should embrace legends, and make Rogue Squadron a TV show roughly in line with the books - maybe get rid of the force stuff for Corran Horn. Otherwise, I think it would be great. They can even use Dedra Meero from Andor to replace the Ysanne Isaard character as they are basically the same person.
Literally "EVERY" single woman in my life.....from immediate relative to coworkers to friends to wives of friends to sisters of friends, etc.... has actively told me either on their own or in response to me asking....... that they hate the Rey character and find it to be ridiculous and bad writing and an insulting violation trope that ruins not just womanhood....but also repels them away from the Star Wars franchise. That character is not inspiring, it is not respected, it is not endearing, it is not impactful, it is not consistent with existing lore, it is not genuine, it is not cool. Women hate that character..... women don't want that character.... women are disappointed by that character.
Anyone who works at the mouse-ear mega corporation who even mentions the name of that character should immediately be fired and physically thrown out of the premises.
They need to have Rey team up with Snow White and make the ultimately Disney farce of them all.
First thing you do in Episode 10 is blow up the lesbian space witches planet, followed by the opening credits.
As long as they keep holding on to the Didney Wars continuity, things are going to continue to fail. They need to declare everything they've made so far non-canon and return to Legends Canon, just as most fans have. They are deep, deep, *deep* in sunk cost fallacy at this point, and they desperately need to shake it.
How many billions to make that list just to lose money on all of them. Just go under and disappear.
Rey, the quest for earth?
I predict Daisy Ridley will get more attractive with age (up to a point) as she gets a little body fat in the right places.
She is all the Jedi, and a Palpatine!
Best way to fix Rey: go full Palpatine
After Rey said "Rey Skywalker", pause; red glow in her eyes going brighter as it fades to black with Palpatine cackling in the background getting louder.
I feel sorry for Daisy Ridley. She's mega cute and seems like a nice person and Star Wars fan
If she were a Star Wars fan, she would have known Jar Jar & Ruin were serving her a turd on a silver platter. But as an actress, and a human being ... yeah, she deserved better!
her character was really cool until she beat Kylo without any training. cute, humble, poor, and searching for her place in the world.
Im disgusted. i will never watch another movie staring Daisy Ridley. I don't blame her for choosing to do it. But her character is abomination.
@@npwarr2651that’s the modern feminist hero. You are all things necessary at all times, and all events revolve around you, even though you aren’t actually doing anything most of the time.
The sad thing is, i really liked Daisy Ridley as an actress, but Disney had to screw everything up with The Message. I also really liked Finn and his potential which was also ruined.
Let's be honest. The only good quality about rey is that she's physically attractive. She seemed like a nice, down to earth girl in the first movie but they ruined that image in the following 2 movies. They need to accept the fact that they ruined the character and move on.
A long time ago, on a channel far, far away, a little sketch comedy group called Studio C did a skit about how Lucas Films was going to end up making a Star Wars movie for every single character who appeared in the movies, including each and every stormtrooper. Apparently Disney saw that skit and decided it was a good idea.
Knights of the old republic
They do have some of a point. Every woman I've spoken to loved rey even if they disliked the sequels. I'd say that means there is at least some unmined potential, but given how the sequels have turned out thats a really rocky start especially when theres no new rey content that brings the character back into a setting with good reception.