This is exactly why I never cared for Eddie,he makes a point about something, and then proceeds to beat it to death,as if his listeners are idiots, and he's so intelligent that he has to break it down and spoon feed them, jmo
It's called being honest what better way to stop the trolling? It's amazing lip synching hits a nerve with eddie and playing like shit is o.k. when he was talking to ace about the end of the road. He's seen the videos yet thinks ace can play? He has selective tone deafness. Ace has played the same licks for 50 years and instead of improving it gets worse. I get his influence it influenced me and his solos were great. I can't after playing 40 years give him a hall pass. I like ace but the at least he dosent use backing tracks dosent make it ok to excuse his terrible playing. If ace farted it would break Eddie's nose. I guess it's a difference of opion id rather hear enhanced tracks over aces botched cover medley and solo that sounds like a kid playing with his first digital delay and making noise while smokes coming out of the guitar
He's to dumb to realize that artist only use his show for promotion. Most if not all don't know they can curse on his show. Proof they don't even listen to his radio program. But I agree, he has to constantly brag on who is his "friends". I think he hates that Paul called his TV show dumb.
He has a 3 minute set up with name dropping and then the rest is a rant where he sounds like puberty is kicking in. Not sure I heard more then 20-30 words, I was too busy laughing.
How is Eddie trying to stir up shit, when it's a damn fact that Paul and Gene are delusional greedy assholes and shady and they bash Peter Criss and Ace, real legends 🤔
i grew up on kiss since i was 10 years old and even i admit it all a money grab and its time to give it up , they have done farewell tours for 10 years now - retire on all your stacks of money boys it was a good ride
I'm only half way through this, but Eddie has said the same thing five times already. How many times do you nned to make the same point? This man seriously needs to learn how to self-edit.
I've looked at a bunch of these "Lip Syncing" video by KISS and others. If the vocals were prerecorded why would they use such terrible tracks. (David Coverdale comes to mind)
Stay home and listen to a record. Enjoy that. Paul has sung and entertained us for 40 years. He has earned the right in his old age to get a little help. A KISS concert is an experience. Lip syncing, wigs and Geritol. At this point who gives a crap? I’ll see you at the Garden.
When you have been touring and recording almost non stop for 50 years and have proven yourself I have no problem with using vocal enhancements for a final tour.
Lip syncing and using backing tracks is 2 completely different things. But every single major act is using backing tracks and playing with in ear monitors.
Right, the backing track is in Stanleys ear buds so that he can stay in key and synced with songs, those backing tracks are not necessarily going out over PA system. Eddy is a guy that has worked in this industry for decades. How does he NOT know this? Doc never said the backing track played out over the PA along with all of the live sound. On the topic of live sound - does Trunk not know that his voice is amplified and then broadcast as a signal? I say this bc he seems to be yelling like no one will hear him properly as they hang out in the parking lot at the 7-11 in East Hoboken. NJ
Regardless just as a 16 year said to me yesterday who is a Kiss fan when I asked her opinion about them singing to tracks… “ Well … They are really old now.”
Yeah ...must be hard to see that your band can do these mega tours at 50 to 100 to thousands a ticket to half geriatric crowds with money and turn it down to provide for your family and future families... And look down at your body or mirror and see you are 70 or 75 So you put on a wig and makeup and do a tour I'm not going
Can't this man speak without whining? His voice is so grating.. You can hear his mind straining to try to understand the subject matter and ultimately falling short of that goal. He's having an inordinate amount of trouble understanding a fairly simple concept but he's clearly not a singer...so what would you care what he thinks?
I think the future of any older bands I feel is all gonna go to A.I. avatars . C.G.I. Hints Paul saying Kiss will go on without any original members. Everything will be like a hologram.... Crazy stuff...
@@8LiterallyJustTheNumber8 Yeah, man…Ace’s recent X, I think her name is Rachael. She said Ace told her all the dirt, but didn’t want to say anything, because he wanted to do a few shows with them. She said she’s not holding back, because Paul, and Gene pressured Ace to dump her, if he wanted to join the last few shows. I can’t believe she would make wild stuff like that up. Now, Ace is threatening to release info, that would end both their careers overnight. I know Gene had a TON of r*pe charges he paid off…
Everybody knows this and Paul vaguely admitted it in interviews.this is not news.i listen to eddie sometimes but he's just filling airtime here or taking another shot at Paul because Paul doesn't acknowledge him.
Its one thing to use backing track so a band dont haft to bring a orchestra on tour with them. Its another when the band plys and it sounds like the album note for note. I spend the money for live bands not karaoke. And sorry but ive known this for years because everytime they address the crowd you hear the difference when they start playing. Maybe its just me but i want to hear the mistakes live, i love it. Then i know im watching entertainers and not frauds.
Ultimately, who cares? If the KISS fans who attend the concerts dont care, then I think the "damage" is not very big. Of course Paul does not want to admit anything, which is a bit akward.
My first response is you need to verify your information for Frankie Valli. Get information on him, verify the numbers, make sure it's in fact him, then update and re-report your findings. That's only fair. Now as for Paul, I think as a matter of fact, where everything is black and white, your opinion on this is valid, reasonable, and holds common sense. However, in this new entertainment world, it's a dead issue. Everyone in nearly every band including the singer is using some effect(s), in the studio for recording, and live. That is not going to change, especially with the music business structured the way it is at this point where such a large amount of a group's revenue is based on touring dates, attendance, and merchandise. A singer's voice has to [appear to] be on pitch and [appear to] remain durable. In short, it is completely fair to blame the Democrats as they have offshored and techno'd this country/world to hell.
I honestly don’t know why Eddie has ever bothered to do a single interview because he clearly only cares about hearing himself talk. The guy’s been on the air for 4 decades and he still has no idea how to properly conduct an interview. I was only an intern at a radio station and I could conduct an interview better and more professionally than he ever could. I do it for my podcast. I’m autistic, so it’s sometimes difficult for me as well, but you have to let others speak when you have them on!
Karaoke is more like Hootie Rucker or cover band’ish. Pretty most of Kiss’ playlist were songs written by Kiss. Sure, talk smack about this 7 year farewell tour, but karaoke? Naw.
@Wesley Broers you're right, Karaoke you have to actually sing. Paul's greedy washed up ass is too busy being obsessed with Ace to bother with actually singing for his fans.
I’ve been such a huge Eddie Trunk fan and supporter over the years but he sounds like a cynical old man whom has wasted far too much time whining about Kiss lip synching. To make matters worse, he acts like this is late breaking news, meanwhile Paul Stanley is 70+ years old and Kiss is on final leg of their career….seriously, who cares???? Try focusing on more positive news especially now when music and rock is in perhaps the saddest and most forgotten state it’s ever been!
wait "sing to a track" could also mean he's hearing the songs in his ears and he literally "sings along" are we sure that's not what he meant? Because that's still him singing live.
He is singing live.His voice is shot to hell.Anyone can hear that.If he sounded like he did on Rock And Roll Over,I'd call bullshit and say he was NOT singing at all.Just moving his mouth to the song,THAT is lip sync. People are (fill in)_______
There's a lot of bands that sing over the album track to fill out the high notes that most of them can't hit live. It's certainly more common than uncommon 🤷
I was in an elevator with Eddie Trunk in Las Vegas, and he has serious body odor. One of those guys who stinks 10 minutes after a shower. My wife looked at him, then looked at me, then crinkled her nose like Bewitched.
The real problem is not Paul lipsyncing, is people paying to watch him do it, he was one of the best singers in the planet but they chose to stay way longer than needed, they care little to nothing about old school fans, new fans don't care about lipsyncing because that is the new normal on modern music
@andrescarrasco All good. But "The real problem is... people PAYING to watch him..." This is the materialistic point of view. But people don't just hear with the ears, they listen with the ❤.
The best analogy there is.... Plant never tried to emulate that and admitted alot of Zeps last concerts where horrible ones including his voice decline where they played multiple nights in a week because of the money
I just saw KISS in Baltimore and he sang that concert. I did hear some low db vocal tracks during I Was Made for Loving You, but the voice that sat on top of the mix was live vocals and you couldn’t hear the tracks. I also saw them I Hershey right before the Pandemic and they lip synced that entire show where I don’t believe the mic was even on. I don’t think they sung a note. They would try to speak after the song and they had nothing coming through until it was turned on. This Baltimore show was completely different.
I'm not defending recorded tracks or suggesting Paul Stanley isn't lip syncing, but Eddie doesn't seem to be interpreting what Doc said correctly. And for the record I think it's fraud to sell a ticket to a live performance and have parts that aren't being played BUT this is something that has been going on forever, it's just getting more common because technology has allowed it to be used easier. ELO was using recorded tracks in the '70's, Queen, and Pink Floyd, are a couple other over produced bands that used recorded material on stage to fill out their music. Even sequencers and triggers could be considered "non-performance" events. Any time a click track is being used on stage there are pre-recorded sounds being used. I certainly don't put Kiss in the same category as ELO, Queen, or Pink Floyd but their albums are somewhat overproduced and they've never been very good musicians. If you listen to their first couple of albums you can plainly hear how thin their playing is. That being said, many recordings have vocal parts that are doubled and tripled and I think Doc is admitting to Paul singing along with his own pre-recorded harmonies. That's different than not singing at all and just lip syncing (which he's been caught on tape doing), but Doc did not admit to that, and there is a difference between singing a part and not singing at all. That being said, I believe there should be a disclaimer for any and all live musical performances that have audio parts that are not being performed by a musician on the stage during that concert.
Probably 80 percent of the bands that you see live are doing this. It's not lip synching. He is actually singing and there is a vocal track at a lower volume underneath to enhance it. And the other thing I want to set straight with Eddie, he calls lip syncing karaoke. That is incorrect. People that sing karaoke are singing to a music bed. Lip synching the singer is not singing or having sound omit from their month.
Very true. In most cases the stage rig is rented by a few outfits before the tour. They go over with the act what they want and what they want to pay. One option is for the video enhancements that are played on the many giant LCD displays and even the small ones (flying saucers) that KISS used as stage props on this tour. Another one is for any staged fire and pyro that the act may want. Another is to have all of this automated. Kiss wants to put on the best show and really ticks all the boxes for full service. The stage supplier asks for a recorded track to program all the events to and then they produce the backing video. Once the concert starts the train leaves the station on that backing track and it's moving forward one way or another. Def Leppard, Motley Crue, and Kiss all do this. Someone that prefers to improv and work for the "feeling" is Billy Idol and Steve Stevens- they play organically but don't have the props. Just what the artist wants to present to the audience and no one way is right.
@@Mr_Clean I can't agree with Milli Vanilli. They were quite young guys, Paul is 71. They didn't sing from the beginning, Paul was singing for decades. The comparison is inappropriate.
No it's not word salad as an audio engineer most bands today use a double which means they are singing live but there is a double also playing at the same time, if a Band plays to a click track 9 times out of 10 there are backing tracks playing as well which will include a double of the lead vocal turned down and extra backing vocals which can't be reproduced live. So say you have song with 5 part harmony recorded by the lead singer in the studio but on tour live only 3 members actually can sing competently then they will use those tracks so the audience doesn't go home saying the band sucks live compared to the record.
I find it hard to believe because I have heard recent years Paul's singing has really nose dived since his earlier days. You would think he would sing to recordings that sound good not a broken up weak voice.
First this the funniest thing ever ! Doc going on this guy's channel love it ! If your a rock fan and are aware of kiss at all this is not an allegedly sings to tacks, he lip syncs period he's only croaking out the 1st verse of detroit rock city to sell the fraud and fool the audience after that he's not singing a damn thing , you've got to be brain dead to think otherwise look let him lipsync I could care less it's not something I would pay money to see ...but at least give the ticket buyers a choice put a disclaimer on the ticket saying the band is enhanced ... and playing along with prerecorded tracks - then let's see how many tickets get sold ... rock music is a rebellious young man's game these guys are old ..im sure they hate getting old but there old ... and they should just stop enjoy life sit back and relax ,because agree or disagree I believe that lip syncing... faking it on stage is just not how it's done in rock n roll
It was LEGAL INNOCULATION now no one can sue KISS misrepresenting a show as a live performance because their manager admitted the truth publicly on a show critical of that issue, TRUNK repeating furthers the INNOCULATION. TRUNK GOT PLAYED AGAIN.
Eddie is amazing he can have an in depth conversation with him self for hours.
Even more amazing, he still believes it’s 1989 in his head, even if he won’t admit it. Grunge never happened in Eddie’s world.
😄😆😃😀😅
Every interview Eddie does with someone is all about Eddie. Uggh.
This is exactly why I never cared for Eddie,he makes a point about something, and then proceeds to beat it to death,as if his listeners are idiots, and he's so intelligent that he has to break it down and spoon feed them, jmo
I cant believe how AMAZED Eddie was by this like it was the most incredible news to ever be made public. C'mon dude get a grip
I'm just checking back 3 months later to see if Eddie is still talking!
4 months … he’s still going 😂
talking is a radio employees job brainiac.....
Yep and he never let's you down with that high pitched squeaky vocal inflection LOL!
Eddie's voice could be used as an outdoor insect repellent.
I just pissed myself!
I was looking for the words to describe his voice. You nailed it!
I just died 😆 🤣 😂
😂
Eddie’s voice is great
Paul is in his 70's. I'm amazed that he still has the energy to dance on the stage.
@Mike Davis I don't think so
@@cornstar1253 Well he is & Smart People Know it!
@@FranzJosephLP Some people think they know everything.
Let's pay a ton of money to watch Paul Stanley dance
Dance?
Eddie is probbaly just butthurt that Doc went on some random youtube channel and not his show.
He literally has every other artist on his show. I think he’ll be okay.
@@AarosConcerts Doc canceled his appearance on Eddies show at the last minute. There is a clip on youtube about that.
At least Ace doesn't lip sync. Granted Ace by his own admission isn't a great singer. However, Ace plays live warts and all. 🎸
I recently saw Ace and it was terrible, his playing was atrocious. Horrible show, I definitely felt cheated.
Ace is a joke warts and all.
It's called being honest what better way to stop the trolling? It's amazing lip synching hits a nerve with eddie and playing like shit is o.k. when he was talking to ace about the end of the road. He's seen the videos yet thinks ace can play? He has selective tone deafness. Ace has played the same licks for 50 years and instead of improving it gets worse. I get his influence it influenced me and his solos were great. I can't after playing 40 years give him a hall pass. I like ace but the at least he dosent use backing tracks dosent make it ok to excuse his terrible playing. If ace farted it would break Eddie's nose. I guess it's a difference of opion id rather hear enhanced tracks over aces botched cover medley and solo that sounds like a kid playing with his first digital delay and making noise while smokes coming out of the guitar
This guy can't go three minutes without telling you who he knows in the industry
Such a name dropper.
He's seriously a total nerd.
Everyone is a good friend of his.
do you know people in the industry YOU work in? if so, do outside people disrespect you for? if not, then why do you do it
He's to dumb to realize that artist only use his show for promotion. Most if not all don't know they can curse on his show. Proof they don't even listen to his radio program. But I agree, he has to constantly brag on who is his "friends". I think he hates that Paul called his TV show dumb.
😂
Syncin’ Stanley here peepole and LISTEN!!!😂😂😂
People do not just hear with the ears, they listen with their hearts❤ to Paul
(with or without tracks).
Eddie’s stretched a one minute quip into ten minutes.😑
He has a 3 minute set up with name dropping and then the rest is a rant where he sounds like puberty is kicking in. Not sure I heard more then 20-30 words, I was too busy laughing.
Get to it dude jesus
Any move Doc made on behalf of the band was 100% calculated
exactly
Thank for the likes and your comments over my post, thanks for being a fan of mine 🥰
It takes 3 minutes of Eddie telling you how much he knows doc and kiss before he gets to the point
All he does is name drop.
@@DM-sy4hg I also hate when he laughs at something someone said it always sounds so fake and disingenuous
Three minutes is pretty quick for Eddie.
Eddie gets paid by the word
Lol. He’s such a tool.
If that's true, he's 10X richer than Elon Musk.
@@charliec5653 in other words, it’s Trumpian bullshite.
Yes and everybody knows that his words are a turd.... havnt you heard about trunks turd ...turd is the word
Eddie Trunk's favorite word is "I." He uses it way too much for an interviewer. He should learn how to speak in the third-person.
When "I" worked for Mega Force Records.
Paul already made his bones with fantastic singing…. If near the end he lip syncs, I dont mind
I seen the actual video. Shocking what Doc MaGHee said. Doc amazingly admits lipsynching is happening during the shows.
Eddie trying to manufacture a story
How is Eddie trying to stir up shit, when it's a damn fact that Paul and Gene are delusional greedy assholes and shady and they bash Peter Criss and Ace, real legends 🤔
i grew up on kiss since i was 10 years old and even i admit it all a money grab and its time to give it up , they have done farewell tours for 10 years now - retire on all your stacks of money boys it was a good ride
both eddie and kiss make rock n roll seem sooo lame
I'm only half way through this, but Eddie has said the same thing five times already. How many times do you nned to make the same point? This man seriously needs to learn how to self-edit.
I've looked at a bunch of these "Lip Syncing" video by KISS and others. If the vocals were prerecorded why would they use such terrible tracks. (David Coverdale comes to mind)
Saw Ace a couple nights ago… maybe he should consider using tracks
I love Syncin' Stanley!
Why would anyone who likes KISS care if Paul is actually singing live? It's not like they're a band of virtuosos...
Paul was one of the best singers in rock, until Sonic Boom.
It's not like they're crap either.
Cuz we can hear the record at home for free
Stay home and listen to a record. Enjoy that. Paul has sung and entertained us for 40 years. He has earned the right in his old age to get a little help. A KISS concert is an experience. Lip syncing, wigs and Geritol. At this point who gives a crap? I’ll see you at the Garden.
Aaaahahahahaha!!
Does Simmons still have that Brillo Pad Helmet Hair?
Eddie please turn up your mic, its too low 😂😂😂
Man, the title of the video made me think this guy was gonna out Paul as gay! Haha
You too, huh? :D
THAT would be a big surprise 🙄
Yup. He certainly is afeminite.
Not important. But always figured.
When you have been touring and recording almost non stop for 50 years and have proven yourself I have no problem with using vocal enhancements for a final tour.
Lip syncing and using backing tracks is 2 completely different things. But every single major act is using backing tracks and playing with in ear monitors.
Right, the backing track is in Stanleys ear buds so that he can stay in key and synced with songs, those backing tracks are not necessarily going out over PA system. Eddy is a guy that has worked in this industry for decades. How does he NOT know this? Doc never said the backing track played out over the PA along with all of the live sound. On the topic of live sound - does Trunk not know that his voice is amplified and then broadcast as a signal? I say this bc he seems to be yelling like no one will hear him properly as they hang out in the parking lot at the 7-11 in East Hoboken. NJ
no they use click tracks dummy ... back tracks is down right air guitar bs ...im a tech stupid
Except there's tons of footage here on UA-cam of Paul being 15-20 ft away from a microphone, and perfect lead vocals coming out of the PA
Regardless just as a 16 year said to me yesterday who is a Kiss fan when I asked her opinion about them singing to tracks… “ Well … They are really old now.”
Damage control for the truth
If ya want live shows these days you need to go to a bar or high school talent show
I'm confused, I thought someone outed Paul Stanley, but this is about lip synching.
Trunk greatest groupey on earth
Over 10 minutes of 2,5 minutes of material
Nothing cooler than hearing Eddie rip the shit out of grandpa-aged men trying to make a living because Ed still thinks this is 1984.
Trying to make a living? They are multi millionaires
Yeah ...must be hard to see that your band can do these mega tours at 50 to 100 to thousands a ticket to half geriatric crowds with money and turn it down to provide for your family and future families...
And look down at your body or mirror and see you are 70 or 75
So you put on a wig and makeup and do a tour
I'm not going
Why the drama, man? Take responsibility when the time comes. You are feeding the monster.
Can't this man speak without whining? His voice is so grating.. You can hear his mind straining to try to understand the subject matter and ultimately falling short of that goal. He's having an inordinate amount of trouble understanding a fairly simple concept but he's clearly not a singer...so what would you care what he thinks?
Is that you again, Paul or Gene?
Eddie is 100% correct on everything he says about this subject.
So he's not "not" singing. Great outrage mob thirstbait segment tho.
Paul Stanley is the white version of Michael jackson …. How many surgeries has Paul had? All he needs is to practice singing Billie Jean 😂
Just cuz you've been with millions of women don't make you heterosexual. Paul is kinda flamboyant
I think the future of any older bands I feel is all gonna go to A.I. avatars . C.G.I. Hints Paul saying Kiss will go on without any original members. Everything will be like a hologram.... Crazy stuff...
This is nowhere near as juicy, as Ace Frehley’s former girlfriend, stating that Paul, impregnated his own sister, and they have a child together! WOW!
What!! When was this?! That's certainly a wild accusation
@@8LiterallyJustTheNumber8 Yeah, man…Ace’s recent X, I think her name is Rachael. She said Ace told her all the dirt, but didn’t want to say anything, because he wanted to do a few shows with them. She said she’s not holding back, because Paul, and Gene pressured Ace to dump her, if he wanted to join the last few shows. I can’t believe she would make wild stuff like that up. Now, Ace is threatening to release info, that would end both their careers overnight. I know Gene had a TON of r*pe charges he paid off…
@Frank Dux It's known as the "synagogue of Satan" to some, ha ha....
@Frank Dux and of course, you believe everything you hear from psycho ex-girlfriends.
@Frank Dux - Not as sick as you.
Maybe we should call Doc “Godfather McGee!”Or maybe not,I don’t wanna wake up with a horse’s head in my bed!
Everybody knows this and Paul vaguely admitted it in interviews.this is not news.i listen to eddie sometimes but he's just filling airtime here or taking another shot at Paul because Paul doesn't acknowledge him.
Its one thing to use backing track so a band dont haft to bring a orchestra on tour with them. Its another when the band plys and it sounds like the album note for note. I spend the money for live bands not karaoke. And sorry but ive known this for years because everytime they address the crowd you hear the difference when they start playing. Maybe its just me but i want to hear the mistakes live, i love it. Then i know im watching entertainers and not frauds.
Eddie drags out every thought he’s so annoying .
Eddie Trunk, I had a better opinion of you.
How many times and ways do you have, to say what was stated in the first 5 minutes of this clip??
Ultimately, who cares? If the KISS fans who attend the concerts dont care, then I think the "damage" is not very big. Of course Paul does not want to admit anything, which is a bit akward.
My first response is you need to verify your information for Frankie Valli.
Get information on him, verify the numbers, make sure it's in fact him, then update and re-report your findings. That's only fair.
Now as for Paul, I think as a matter of fact, where everything is black and white, your opinion on this is valid, reasonable, and holds common sense.
However, in this new entertainment world, it's a dead issue. Everyone in nearly every band including the singer is using some effect(s), in the studio for recording, and live.
That is not going to change, especially with the music business structured the way it is at this point where such a large amount of a group's revenue is based on touring dates, attendance, and merchandise. A singer's voice has to [appear to] be on pitch and [appear to] remain durable.
In short, it is completely fair to blame the Democrats as they have offshored and techno'd this country/world to hell.
I thought this was going to be Doc outing Paul for being gay.
same here bro
me too and that would be 30 years late as well Paul Defo poked the Brown Balloon Knot namely Janie Lanes 😔
Why are you surprised that Paul Stanley lip syncs? Been doing it for years.
I honestly don’t know why Eddie has ever bothered to do a single interview because he clearly only cares about hearing himself talk. The guy’s been on the air for 4 decades and he still has no idea how to properly conduct an interview. I was only an intern at a radio station and I could conduct an interview better and more professionally than he ever could. I do it for my podcast. I’m autistic, so it’s sometimes difficult for me as well, but you have to let others speak when you have them on!
KISS is pathetic at this point. Basically doing live Karaoke at full ticket prices
Expensive beer and I am paying for a puppet show? No me, but if you want that. Go get it!
Karaoke is more like Hootie Rucker or cover band’ish. Pretty most of Kiss’ playlist were songs written by Kiss. Sure, talk smack about this 7 year farewell tour, but karaoke? Naw.
@Wesley Broers you're right, Karaoke you have to actually sing. Paul's greedy washed up ass is too busy being obsessed with Ace to bother with actually singing for his fans.
They never brought Ace and Peter back after 2000, pretty much--AND THAT pisses me off until this very day
I thought he was finally coming out.
Whatever . No worries
Same here 😂😂😂
It’s Doc McGhee.
I’ve been such a huge Eddie Trunk fan and supporter over the years but he sounds like a cynical old man whom has wasted far too much time whining about Kiss lip synching. To make matters worse, he acts like this is late breaking news, meanwhile Paul Stanley is 70+ years old and Kiss is on final leg of their career….seriously, who cares???? Try focusing on more positive news especially now when music and rock is in perhaps the saddest and most forgotten state it’s ever been!
I played in a band with syncing Stanley in Melbourne fla
wait "sing to a track" could also mean he's hearing the songs in his ears and he literally "sings along" are we sure that's not what he meant? Because that's still him singing live.
He is singing live.His voice is shot to hell.Anyone can hear that.If he sounded like he did on Rock And Roll Over,I'd call bullshit and say he was NOT singing at all.Just moving his mouth to the song,THAT is lip sync.
People are (fill in)_______
He keeps repeating himself, when he could easily get his point across in just a few sentences.
There's a lot of bands that sing over the album track to fill out the high notes that most of them can't hit live. It's certainly more common than uncommon 🤷
Used correctly it's fine imo. As an enhancement. But you gotta have the singer singing live.
I was in an elevator with Eddie Trunk in Las Vegas, and he has serious body odor. One of those guys who stinks 10 minutes after a shower. My wife looked at him, then looked at me, then crinkled her nose like Bewitched.
Damn
Are we sure it’s not a fake doc McGee?
The real problem is not Paul lipsyncing, is people paying to watch him do it, he was one of the best singers in the planet but they chose to stay way longer than needed, they care little to nothing about old school fans, new fans don't care about lipsyncing because that is the new normal on modern music
@andrescarrasco
All good. But "The real problem is... people PAYING to watch him..." This is the materialistic point of view.
But people don't just hear with the ears, they listen with the ❤.
The best analogy there is.... Plant never tried to emulate that and admitted alot of Zeps last concerts where horrible ones including his voice decline where they played multiple nights in a week because of the money
I just saw KISS in Baltimore and he sang that concert. I did hear some low db vocal tracks during I Was Made for Loving You, but the voice that sat on top of the mix was live vocals and you couldn’t hear the tracks. I also saw them I Hershey right before the Pandemic and they lip synced that entire show where I don’t believe the mic was even on. I don’t think they sung a note. They would try to speak after the song and they had nothing coming through until it was turned on. This Baltimore show was completely different.
why would Eddie out Frankie Valli..just to say he talked to him? goof
I'm not defending recorded tracks or suggesting Paul Stanley isn't lip syncing, but Eddie doesn't seem to be interpreting what Doc said correctly. And for the record I think it's fraud to sell a ticket to a live performance and have parts that aren't being played BUT this is something that has been going on forever, it's just getting more common because technology has allowed it to be used easier. ELO was using recorded tracks in the '70's, Queen, and Pink Floyd, are a couple other over produced bands that used recorded material on stage to fill out their music. Even sequencers and triggers could be considered "non-performance" events. Any time a click track is being used on stage there are pre-recorded sounds being used. I certainly don't put Kiss in the same category as ELO, Queen, or Pink Floyd but their albums are somewhat overproduced and they've never been very good musicians. If you listen to their first couple of albums you can plainly hear how thin their playing is. That being said, many recordings have vocal parts that are doubled and tripled and I think Doc is admitting to Paul singing along with his own pre-recorded harmonies. That's different than not singing at all and just lip syncing (which he's been caught on tape doing), but Doc did not admit to that, and there is a difference between singing a part and not singing at all. That being said, I believe there should be a disclaimer for any and all live musical performances that have audio parts that are not being performed by a musician on the stage during that concert.
Fantastic comment. Exactly my thoughts.
You are correct 👍🏻
Probably 80 percent of the bands that you see live are doing this. It's not lip synching. He is actually singing and there is a vocal track at a lower volume underneath to enhance it. And the other thing I want to set straight with Eddie, he calls lip syncing karaoke. That is incorrect. People that sing karaoke are singing to a music bed. Lip synching the singer is not singing or having sound omit from their month.
Very true. In most cases the stage rig is rented by a few outfits before the tour. They go over with the act what they want and what they want to pay. One option is for the video enhancements that are played on the many giant LCD displays and even the small ones (flying saucers) that KISS used as stage props on this tour. Another one is for any staged fire and pyro that the act may want. Another is to have all of this automated. Kiss wants to put on the best show and really ticks all the boxes for full service. The stage supplier asks for a recorded track to program all the events to and then they produce the backing video. Once the concert starts the train leaves the station on that backing track and it's moving forward one way or another. Def Leppard, Motley Crue, and Kiss all do this. Someone that prefers to improv and work for the "feeling" is Billy Idol and Steve Stevens- they play organically but don't have the props. Just what the artist wants to present to the audience and no one way is right.
No, Doc just said that he hears the track in his ear and sings it live to the crowd.
... except there's tons of footage of Paul 15-20 ft away from a microphone and perfect lead vocals coming out of the PA
@@Mr_Clean Regardless, Doc never stated that Paul is singing to a live audio feed that is being played over the P.A. to the concert audience.
@@Eddie-In-Las-Vegas they're Milli Vanilli at this point. Motley Crue also.
@@Mr_Clean My opinion isn't about that, it's about Trunk losing his shit over a wrong interpretation.
@@Mr_Clean
I can't agree with Milli Vanilli. They were quite young guys, Paul is 71. They didn't sing from the beginning, Paul was singing for decades. The comparison is inappropriate.
Paul McCartney & Paul Stanley need to give it up , it’s time to admit that , & let’s talk about John Bonjovi , he’s DONE !
If one is lipsyncing one is not singing. You can't do both.
If a performer has backup singers are they then lipsyncing, of course not.
I've heard lots of bootlegs. Lip sync? I guess he's using pitchy tracks then.
Even tho I can’t stand Kiss, every band uses guide tracks in the ears and FOH.
Gene Kline played Paul a song "My uncle is a raft" Classic
And also a song about sniffing bicycle seats
And he also a song called "Stanley the Parrot " True .
@@MERCURYSUNSET classic
And let's not leave out another tune called "My mother is the most beautiful woman in the world."
Man let it go! Paul Stanley is a Mount “Rockmore” lead singer.
Give the guy a break. He's 127 years old. Of course he's gonna need some help hitting those notes.
Doc has to be Gene's cousin or something 😂😂😂😂
Gene and Paul need to retire from live performing.
They have. For now. Look for the 3rd farewell tour next year😉
Now that Viggy died, a few bands like Shinedown, Motley and Kiss may need to re learn their instruments.
I thought this was where they finally outed Paul Stanley as being gay.
Paul isn't fooling anybody. :P
Yep Eddies Right. Doc made it worse 🤣
Translation, Eddie is upset he didn’t get the interview.
Doc is also in his 70's. Maybe he's got the old timers disease?
is the last band manager You know they busted smuggling hundreds of pounds of marijuana if not, thousands?
Oh no, I'm not touching this one lol.
'word salad' , as Eddie said.. It's lip- syncing
Ace carried that band for years even with his problems back then. Time to hang it up boys
Ace didn’t carry squat. He had to be replaced with session players plenty of times.
Better lipsyyncing than sounding lile Vince Neil
No it's not word salad as an audio engineer most bands today use a double which means they are singing live but there is a double also playing at the same time, if a Band plays to a click track 9 times out of 10 there are backing tracks playing as well which will include a double of the lead vocal turned down and extra backing vocals which can't be reproduced live. So say you have song with 5 part harmony recorded by the lead singer in the studio but on tour live only 3 members actually can sing competently then they will use those tracks so the audience doesn't go home saying the band sucks live compared to the record.
That wig is SOFA King ridiculous. Just like Paul $tanley and Gene $immon$ of KI$$.
I find it hard to believe because I have heard recent years Paul's singing has really nose dived since his earlier days. You would think he would sing to recordings that sound good not a broken up weak voice.
First this the funniest thing ever ! Doc going on this guy's channel love it ! If your a rock fan and are aware of kiss at all this is not an allegedly sings to tacks, he lip syncs period he's only croaking out the 1st verse of detroit rock city to sell the fraud and fool the audience after that he's not singing a damn thing , you've got to be brain dead to think otherwise look let him lipsync I could care less it's not something I would pay money to see ...but at least give the ticket buyers a choice put a disclaimer on the ticket saying the band is enhanced ... and playing along with prerecorded tracks - then let's see how many tickets get sold ... rock music is a rebellious young man's game these guys are old ..im sure they hate getting old but there old ... and they should just stop enjoy life sit back and relax ,because agree or disagree I believe that lip syncing... faking it on stage is just not how it's done in rock n roll
Eddie needs to broadcast daily and since there isn’t really that much happening daily he has to gossip
It was LEGAL INNOCULATION now no one can sue KISS misrepresenting a show as a live performance because their manager admitted the truth publicly on a show critical of that issue, TRUNK repeating furthers the INNOCULATION. TRUNK GOT PLAYED AGAIN.
Eddie is great speaks the truth about the music business
OK, so he uses tracks, shame they weren't good ones.