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  • @campkawaii
    @campkawaii 4 роки тому +187

    This next game will probably be Code Vein X God Eater
    I found it funny that the dev said mia was originally a god eater character and she technically still is lol

    • @Almtyhalfbreed
      @Almtyhalfbreed 4 роки тому +1

      Which game is better??

    • @campkawaii
      @campkawaii 4 роки тому +10

      lord of the onion rings I think it’s likely we will see a sequel. The game sold over 1M copies. Which is really good for an new IP that got delayed like 3 times.

    • @IntergalacticOutlaw
      @IntergalacticOutlaw 3 роки тому +8

      @@Almtyhalfbreed Code Vien imo God Eater is more like a monster hunter clone and Code is more like a dark souls clone. Both story lines bring a pretty hefty does of anime to their respective genres, but the game play of code vien is better imo and the big open world. I would like to see a mix betweeen the two that would be great shit

    • @yeeyw
      @yeeyw 2 роки тому +1

      @@Almtyhalfbreed don’t listen to these guys here the most helpful guide
      If you want some depression and got enlightened by a tree go to code vein
      If you wanna cool attack animation go to god eater
      Lol

    • @vixenxia2475
      @vixenxia2475 2 роки тому +3

      @@IntergalacticOutlaw Honestly if they just made killing monsters easier in God Eater it wouldn't be as Tedious.
      and because of how absolutely mobile you can be in God eater vs Code vein. But killing things is easier in code vein.
      A fusion between Hunter game type and Darksouls would be if suddenly Code Vein 2 was Devil May Cry.

  • @sartexir9285
    @sartexir9285 4 роки тому +168

    Imagine playing this game without having even played God Eater. The fact that this game became way more popular than God Eater makes me sad.

    • @cloudshellbullet
      @cloudshellbullet  4 роки тому +65

      It's all good. I think Code Vein advertised God Eater well because players have wondered where that Aragami came from and wondered what it was. Players who have enjoyed the game tend to do a bit more research once they complete it hoping to know more about the lore. It is sad that nobody knew about the game even back then when it first released on PSP but now it's finally getting the publicity it deserved.

    • @braxtonmcmullen-adair2410
      @braxtonmcmullen-adair2410 4 роки тому +15

      @@cloudshellbullet that happened to me, I've been stuck on everything god eater for weeks now since i got this ending

    • @raider3167
      @raider3167 4 роки тому +20

      I didn’t really know God Eater Existed before this game. I knew OF it but I didn’t think I’d like it.
      Boy was I wrong.

    • @metalnat27
      @metalnat27 4 роки тому +13

      @@raider3167 Huge God Eater fan here.
      And I would say this....GOOD!!!
      Now support the future next installments please = )!

    • @Zero-_-Two
      @Zero-_-Two 4 роки тому +1

      Braxton McMullen-Adair same dude

  • @manutdfan231
    @manutdfan231 4 роки тому +131

    It's thanks to Code Vein that I am now obsessed with God Eater

    • @o_o1515
      @o_o1515 3 роки тому +3

      Same thing happened to me and I like how I'm playing the games in the opposite order starting from 3 to 1

    • @manutdfan231
      @manutdfan231 3 роки тому +3

      @@o_o1515 that's what's up. I actually started from 1 and moved up to 3. Good thing too, not sure how'd I deal with it if I had started from 3 lmao

    • @falihes4226
      @falihes4226 Рік тому +1

      No meu caso conheci God Eater primeiro, e agora estou conhecendo Code Vein, e a mistura que foi feita doque tinha de melhor em God Eater com o grau de dificuldade de Dark Souls deram um game e tanto que com certeza será um dos meus favoritos

  • @MrSomaArikado
    @MrSomaArikado 4 роки тому +81

    Not gonna lie. Seeing my old nemesis dyaus pita come the hell out of nowhere to say hi in this game. I shat bricks. Makes me wonder how god eater 4 or code vein 2 are gonna deal with revenants and god eaters

    • @griffingower1883
      @griffingower1883 3 роки тому

      That's because code vein and god eater share the same universe

    • @MikeDeshiel
      @MikeDeshiel 2 роки тому +2

      maybe they'll make a brand new branch of games called God vein or Code Eaters haha

  • @sickly60
    @sickly60 4 роки тому +44

    I played Code Vein before knowing about God Eater and I loved it. They mentioned this little city closed itself off completely from the outside world and the citizens in there didn't know of what was happening, mostly cause they died (i mean it could take years to resurrect after all) only a certain amount of people knew why revenants were created. So personally I feel like this little group just get to leave now to find out about the god eaters- so for me its fun to think thats at the same time the god eater series is happening they walking out of the red mist.

    • @griffingower1883
      @griffingower1883 3 роки тому +1

      I played god eater before i heard of code vein

  • @chriscas5060
    @chriscas5060 3 роки тому +25

    Sakuya: Hey you got any other relatives still around ?
    Lindow: Nah. Not that Tsubaki and I know of.

    • @BananaChicken21
      @BananaChicken21 Рік тому +1

      **A FEW YEARS LATER**
      Lindow: Oh, guess I forgot he was there. So, uh…boy, you haven’t changed a bit.
      Louis: It’s a long, convoluted and very horrific story. Speaking of long, convoluted and very horrific stories, what the hell happened to your arm ?
      Lindow: Oh god, you might wanna sit down for that one.

  • @godxxofxxwar22
    @godxxofxxwar22 4 роки тому +93

    When the Dyaus Pita Aragami showed up my jaw hit the floor, being a big fan of God Eater and Code Vein now it was cool to say the least

    • @metalnat27
      @metalnat27 4 роки тому

      I haven't played Code Vein yet. But is CV a prequel to God Eater series? Or during? Or sequel.

    • @godxxofxxwar22
      @godxxofxxwar22 4 роки тому +11

      metalnat27 It is during God Eaters, it’s honestly a huge spoiler for Code Vein for you to know this though.
      It kinda sets up a potential cross over at the end. I couldn’t tell you if it is during GE 1, 2, or 3 though really. If you really don’t care about spoilers to sum it up:
      In CV everyone is trapped in this bubble that no one can get through and it all happened when the “queen lost her shit” and everything outside the bubble is Aragami and shit no one knows until main events in CV

    • @metalnat27
      @metalnat27 4 роки тому +2

      @@godxxofxxwar22 I don't care about spoiler at all at this point 😜! So thanks 🤗. Hehe.
      I will still buy the game regardless once I get a new job!!
      So really, feel free to tell me everything. The more I know, the more I am eager to play it to be honest. Hell, the mere fact that CV is connected to God Eater is what mainly makes me want to buy it now lol!! I am HUGE God Eater fan! And God Eater 3 being my favorite because of the awesome gameplay and Assault Missions!
      Needless to say, it doesn't matter how much I know about CV! I will buy it either way sooner than later lol.
      Thank you for the reply by the way.

    • @godxxofxxwar22
      @godxxofxxwar22 4 роки тому +5

      metalnat27 being a GE fan and knowing it’s made by the same people, you will look out past the barrier and wonder until near end game. You really gotta dig into the lore of CV to really find the ties between the two. But they are there and I think some of the revelations would really hit home and give you a broader picture on the universe as a whole.
      Def two different styles of games though, one is a monster hunter with AI allies, and this one is without a doubt a Souls game with AI allies. Team Yakumo, little tip for early to end game lol 😂
      If you do get it come back here and find me, I maxed level before the expansions and can backpack if need be

    • @metalnat27
      @metalnat27 4 роки тому +1

      @@godxxofxxwar22 Oh I will DEFINITELY get it! It's just a matter of "when" question lol. But unfortunately, it may not be in a month or two before I am able to get this baby -_-
      But either way, I am determined to get it! But thanks for the overall feedback bro! Really much appreciate it! And if I'll be able to retrack this comment second then yeah, expect to hear from me again Hahaha!
      I'm excited to play this game = ]!

  • @imperiumregalis4193
    @imperiumregalis4193 4 роки тому +131

    God Eater 3 needs this next DLC: Revenants: Beyond the Red Mist
    Make-It-Happen!!!!!

    • @marcocalisto5002
      @marcocalisto5002 4 роки тому +4

      The moon is normal in the code vein, meaning this actions are before or during Shio going to the moon as the Singularity.

    • @imperiumregalis4193
      @imperiumregalis4193 4 роки тому +8

      @@marcocalisto5002 Agreed! Though I still question if the 'Blood Gifts' used by the Revenants aren't in contrast with the introduction of 'Blood Arts' used by God Eaters in Rage Burst 2. Just a thought.

    • @marcocalisto5002
      @marcocalisto5002 4 роки тому +7

      I assume they are.
      BOR parasyte seems to me like a byproduct from the oracle cells just like the ashes were created in god eater 3.
      The difference is, a cycle of rebirth forced the blood to evolve and with it, the user.

    • @victorvillegas2325
      @victorvillegas2325 4 роки тому +1

      Beyond DLC Soma there is Crimson Ashlands

    • @BananaChicken21
      @BananaChicken21 Рік тому

      The way I see it, the events of the game proper happen some time before the events of GE 1 (if not happening simultaneously).
      But if you do the Dweller In The Dark ending, there is a time ellipse between the last boss fight and the epilogue of that ending, meaning that it can happen after the events of that game (I would put it somewhere between GE 1 and 2, personally, but it’s ultimately up to interpretation).

  • @stalinsoulz7872
    @stalinsoulz7872 3 роки тому +11

    So basically code vein became the filler on God Eater Universe. To cement its history on why The Aragami Invasion begins

    • @griffingower1883
      @griffingower1883 3 роки тому +6

      The aragami were already around in code vein thanks to the brief appearance of Dyaus Pita and the thorns of judgment, and that hellfire knight and frozen empress are strikingly similar to Hannibal and Marduk

  • @devinperson242
    @devinperson242 4 роки тому +12

    Walking that slow they ain't going anywhere.

  • @TheHiddenNinjaZach
    @TheHiddenNinjaZach 4 роки тому +27

    Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised Lindow was Loius’ child or vice versa.

    • @hottacos2975
      @hottacos2975 4 роки тому +3

      Probably the first, lindow's Son is Named Ren after his God Arc

  • @Ultraman-Bizzle
    @Ultraman-Bizzle Рік тому +4

    I played vein first and now I’m 75% of the way through the first god eater. Still trying to learn about the connection

  • @wayneteo7871
    @wayneteo7871 4 роки тому +29

    Somehow I think the Code Vein and God Eater is connected ...do you guys notice one of the monster from God Eater Ressurection are found in Code Vein , I'm not really sure but it look like one of the monster in G.E.R lol

    • @Gat720Dua
      @Gat720Dua 4 роки тому +10

      Yes it is.

    • @Muddyres
      @Muddyres 4 роки тому

      Code vein and god eater share the same world! Nani?

    • @Forgetthereality
      @Forgetthereality 4 роки тому +1

      Dyaus Pita and yes CV and GE are in the same world

    • @DaichiTheBrawler
      @DaichiTheBrawler 4 роки тому +3

      Is that not what the vid is saying in the title of the video?

    • @inugami78
      @inugami78 4 роки тому +3

      God Eater takes place in Japan, I think Code Vein takes place in what was Europe or America ( I’m thinking more Europe )

  • @Arieline_D_fur
    @Arieline_D_fur 2 роки тому

    Many people who played god eater traumatized when they saw this

  • @LowTier4Life
    @LowTier4Life 3 роки тому +3

    Maan knowing how they pulled this off while denying the two were related pre-launch makes me look at Scarlet Nexus and go "so are you in GE too?"

  • @muhammadnurakbar4188
    @muhammadnurakbar4188 3 роки тому

    Maybe in God Eater 4 they will put code veins horror as an aragami like those goddamn pole dancer shark girl and hellfire knight (hellfire knight in the file games named ancient hannibal)

  • @michaelwilliams9839
    @michaelwilliams9839 4 роки тому +19

    1:46 -yet another anime loli girl with a big ass backpack lol

  • @lumierevoldagray2909
    @lumierevoldagray2909 2 роки тому

    Brown hair, a cool character.
    Yep Louis is definitely Lindow's father.

  • @masternate2993
    @masternate2993 3 роки тому +3

    Where did you get that outfit??? All my partner characters have it but i didnt no it was a player costume to

    • @cloudshellbullet
      @cloudshellbullet  3 роки тому

      The outfit is the 4th clothing choice in Innerwear and the bloodveil is Venous Claw that's in God Eater pack.

  • @joshjuntilla
    @joshjuntilla 9 місяців тому

    I played God Eater way back, however I never played Code Vein so I never knew this game is somewhat connected to GE. Now I'm curious if where Code Vein fits in the timeline of GE... somebody theorize that it could have been way later after all the GE main stories... for me, I wanted to think it could be somewhere in-between

  • @spencerj18
    @spencerj18 4 роки тому

    Im confused when the red mist blocked off the big guy where did it go

  • @benega5438
    @benega5438 3 роки тому +11

    wait a sec...
    God Eaters = Monster hunters
    Revenants= Vampires
    What's next Werewolves cause that would be lit af

  • @Fate5591
    @Fate5591 4 роки тому +10

    So louis have a Children and His name is julius Visconti😆

    • @nell4596
      @nell4596 4 роки тому +3

      His fullname is Louis amamiya so i could only guess that he's related to Lindow & Tsubaki somehow

    • @GenshinLover283
      @GenshinLover283 3 роки тому

      @@nell4596 something interesting since revenants lose part of their memories whenever they die, if Louis is related to lindow he probably doesn't remember

  • @dombagarut2188
    @dombagarut2188 2 роки тому +1

    The cause of the red rain in GE2 must be link to the red mist I think.. So if they go outside the mist they will see the GE2 or GE3 cast.. cuz in GE1 there's no red rain yet..

    • @cloudshellbullet
      @cloudshellbullet  2 роки тому +1

      That actually makes sense... GE2 story was obsessed with blood type stuff. I hope they make a sequel for GE and Code Vein soon🥺

  • @applejaxx6322
    @applejaxx6322 4 роки тому +11

    The god eater weapons are amazing

    • @metalnat27
      @metalnat27 4 роки тому +9

      God Eaters are definitely more powerful tha. Revenants. At least it seems this way.

    • @kubawoowio9989
      @kubawoowio9989 3 роки тому +5

      @@metalnat27
      Hard to Say. Surely, they Have much stronger weapons, but revenants Have bloodveils, Blood codes, and can use skills. They both need to "devour" to use theit Powers, So I think it's a 50/50 match. And revenants can be killed only by destroying heart, unless queen, and Maybe mainhero.

    • @metalnat27
      @metalnat27 3 роки тому +3

      @@kubawoowio9989 You make great points! However -- at least for the AGEs ( Adoptive God Eaters ) it shouldn't be too hard to take on a Revenant by ripping his\her heart out or blowing it into pieces. The AGEs are EXTREMELY ADVANCED and 10 times more powerful than a regular God Eater.

    • @kubawoowio9989
      @kubawoowio9989 3 роки тому

      @@metalnat27
      Huh. I didn't know that. Anyway, i gotta get thought ger res and ger 2. I coukd play ger 3,but my pc Have to low specs, and there is none Xbox version :P
      And i think revenants still Have chance. At least the most powerful ones, like the protag, or jack. They are as expirienced as God eaters(i think) and stronger than usual revenants. Btw i Just imagined God arc and bloodveils clash. Amasing.

    • @yeeyw
      @yeeyw 2 роки тому

      @@metalnat27 if i’m not wrong in god eater universe it has an apocalypse era before being that advanced right so my theories is the code vein game happens in that era so both god eaters and the revenant is possibly advancing at the same pace or atleast similiar pace but in different tech trees i mean the revenant is having an reliable food source so they will focused to made advances in term of tech and skill and when the god eater game takes place the red mist already subsided because io knows the revenant becames powerful and can takes the danger outside so in god eater era we can’t find the red mist dome again

  • @yeeyw
    @yeeyw 2 роки тому

    I wanna see code vein2 is our revenant gang undergoing some evolution because their body instinct to prepare for bigger threat so the whole story of code vein 2 is our gang having an slow hard hurts upgrade to overpower the god eater monster so in the endgame they surely know that the revenant is capable taking danger from outside the red mist and comeback to the red mist to tell everybody

    • @saltysgene584
      @saltysgene584 2 роки тому

      Facing Dyaus Pita in soul like style? No thank you.

  • @icarusthegodkiller
    @icarusthegodkiller 2 роки тому +1

    Well I guess my character in past got put in the god eater project,then became a revenant, then after code vein,the god eater story starts......
    I make myself cringe.

    • @ozmul5810
      @ozmul5810 Рік тому

      Dont feel bad, I had the same head cannon. With my character being part of Special Projects Unit called Chimera that used modified Oracle cells In an attempt to make super soldiers that can fight back agents the Aragami. A sort of progenitor to God Eaters. Research that would lead into Project Queen. Which my character was sent on loan to Silva to help with project Queen, and Later Project Queenslayer. My character would then die and be brough back as a revenant, with the Bor parasites altering the Oracle cells further and making my character a Void type. Allowing them to defeat the Queen and accept the Queens blood. At the cost of losing all my memories of Project Chimera and the conflict with the Aragami.

  • @imimori
    @imimori 2 роки тому +6

    They should make a God Eater x Code Vein game where you can choose to be an:
    - God Eater (choice of Blood type or Ash type)
    - Humanoid Aragami
    - Revenants

    • @BananaChicken21
      @BananaChicken21 Рік тому

      >Soulslike game with god eater weapons that can shift from melee to gun
      GOD YES

    • @AndroidNoir-L06k
      @AndroidNoir-L06k 11 місяців тому

      ​@@BananaChicken21you mean bloodborn?

    • @BananaChicken21
      @BananaChicken21 11 місяців тому

      @@AndroidNoir-L06k I already know about Bloodborne, you know what I meant

  • @peacechan4500
    @peacechan4500 4 роки тому +8

    Just imagine revenant God Eater or even better an AGE revenant
    Jesus Christ the power overwhelming

    • @Forgetthereality
      @Forgetthereality 4 роки тому +1

      Revenants as a base line seem to be very underpowered compared to god eaters. Cerberus revenants have alot of drawbacks and seemed to have been a failed anti aragami solution where as god eaters fight fire with fire using the very oracle cells aragami are composed of to fight them.

    • @hottacos2975
      @hottacos2975 4 роки тому +1

      Also age is probably the most usless of the God eaters as they don't add many new things to them besides going into ash
      A Blood God eater and Revenant mix would be a better combo as they not only have blood arts that Age have (they they got a name change) they can also use Rage Burst for the added damage stack

  • @mattithegodeatersmashbro1358
    @mattithegodeatersmashbro1358 4 роки тому +8

    So code vein is a story in the past of god eater and god eater is the future of code vein?

    • @incubookiie
      @incubookiie 4 роки тому +15

      You realize you just said the same thing two different ways

    • @mattithegodeatersmashbro1358
      @mattithegodeatersmashbro1358 4 роки тому +1

      Oh your right I did
      So it is the past of god eater

    • @tricktrick5467
      @tricktrick5467 4 роки тому +4

      or maybe the government make the other powerful weapon to end that aragami with the queen project :O

    • @tonyvillegas5965
      @tonyvillegas5965 4 роки тому +7

      So I just beat the game last night. But the way I'm taking it is their moving side by side story wise. What part of god eater they're at is hard to pinpoint cause we don't know what part of the world this is in that pita was around for a while too before the events of the first god eater. Or it's probably a different one. We don't know yet.

    • @nerobiblios4086
      @nerobiblios4086 4 роки тому +4

      @@tonyvillegas5965 If it is in the same world and not just an easter egg, it has to be before GE 1, since Shio hasn't devoured the moon yet.

  • @griffingower1883
    @griffingower1883 3 роки тому +3

    It's thanks to God Eater that I got interested in playing code vein

    • @roleemack1535
      @roleemack1535 Рік тому

      Same now I'm getting I was on the fence it is good but not my style thanks to patients and the connection to this and god eater sold

  • @jmneo4635
    @jmneo4635 4 роки тому

    1:47 Haven't played code vein yet but she looks and dresses just like the merchant sisters.

  • @labirios6741
    @labirios6741 3 роки тому +1

    Who came here from Friday night funkin

  • @rafiahmed2636
    @rafiahmed2636 4 роки тому +3

    Just wait till code vein release their last dlc 😉

  • @portiforowest3361
    @portiforowest3361 3 роки тому +1

    Wait theres no wait! Then how the fuck did Code vein begin?

    • @cloudshellbullet
      @cloudshellbullet  3 роки тому +1

      I honestly don't know. I just thought the title sounded cool🥺👉👈

    • @portiforowest3361
      @portiforowest3361 3 роки тому +1

      @@cloudshellbullet NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! WHY!? It's ok I'm going to play code in a little bit.

  • @KushiLungs
    @KushiLungs 4 роки тому +6

    The thing I find critically flawed about God Eater being set in the future is why would they go from being almost immortal Revenants to Bloods. There's just so much more benefits to being a Revenant than there is to being a God Eater, other than the risk of having a frenzy. Human civilisation is much more prominent in GE as well considering you actually see and interact with some of the humans in the titles. Another point to add, CV's environment is so much more darker and damaged. The only thing that can be a decent statement to back GE being the future title is that the weaponry in GE is more advanced, & even then it's still not as advanced as becoming a Revenant. I believe it's the opposite way around, & Code Vein is set in the further future from GE.

    • @hottacos2975
      @hottacos2975 4 роки тому +10

      Maybe I understood the lore wrong. I just best the game and from what I understood aragami showed up first and in order to defeat them they created a "Revenants" who are basicly human aragami as they are also immortal and can only be destroyed by breaking the heart/Core or else they turn to ash and are reborn later both Revenant and aragami share this trait. However the Revenant had the side effect of frenzy and would go awal and attack anything that moved (they basically became full fledged aragami)
      When the Queen frenzied she caused a war lost vs Revenants and instead of fighting the aragami they fought themselves
      Silva realized this could cause more chaos to the humans in the rest of the worl because then they would have to deal with both Lost and Aragami, so when the queen died and they created successors Silva became and surrounded the area in the red mist closing it off from the rest of the world, they had to be stuck living in the one area while the rest of the world moved on without the knowledge of Revenants thus they have more advanced weapons, and modes of transportation. So I would assume it's a prequel set years in the past. Since they are immortal I guess a Cameo could accrue.
      Both have around the same level of destruction but remember that both are 2 different game genres so God eater will have larger open maps while Code Vein will have more linear closed in maps, so Code vein will look more chaotic.
      But like I said I just now best the game, I have 40hrs and haven't done DlC yet so maybe they explain more then

    • @jh9794
      @jh9794 3 роки тому

      Dose anything specify exactly how long it had been sense the queen was beaten? Everything that's been built between your memory and the present had to take time. The successors we run into also are on the edge of frenzy which given their isolation should have taken a while. The few newly built areas also look worn.

  • @lemonquartz464
    @lemonquartz464 3 роки тому +1

    So you can kill aragami without god arc !?

    • @michaelliggett1622
      @michaelliggett1622 2 роки тому +1

      The revenent are basically artificially made human aragami so it the same principle as a god ark

  • @lonelywolf5659
    @lonelywolf5659 4 роки тому +3

    I hope you're not stupid enough to absorb origami blood into their bodies because that be bad. Or the blood rain from God Eater 2 because if so they will all turn into origami hybrids or whatever they are. And I hope they don't go into the ash fields aim or fight a ash argami.

    • @Teyoto
      @Teyoto 4 роки тому +5

      Or.. The parasyte that make them revenant also make them immune to all that '-'

    • @blakstar600
      @blakstar600 4 роки тому

      They have a Special Parasyte to be immune to that... Though their body's are really different from a God Eater human. Mostly if we talk about OUR character who literally have the Queens Blode and relic. And a lot of different Blood Codes. We may even be able to Absorbs Aragamis Blood Codes or who knows

    • @nerobiblios4086
      @nerobiblios4086 4 роки тому +1

      @@blakstar600 Not possible imo, even if they could absorb the blood, the bias factor is the biggest issue. At best, they'd turn into the Lindow-Hannibal thing, which was only stopped using bias factors too. Oracle Cells are fundamentally different than blood too.

    • @terrorlizard
      @terrorlizard 4 роки тому +3

      @@nerobiblios4086 We don't even know if the Oracle Cells or the BOR Parasite will even be compatible. Or if they're enemy's by nature, Oracle Cells eat everything in order to make them better. The BOR revives the dead by replacing there Cells with it own blood, if I remember right? Mixing the two could have any number of effects or make something even more deadlier.

    • @Motoko_AHTR
      @Motoko_AHTR 4 роки тому +1

      Actually. I think the revenant are "God eaters".
      So the god eater was created as a weapon with oracle cells right?
      I think those "oracle cells" could be the same as the "ROB Parasite".
      So while one sided created Material weapons, the other side created living weapons.