Jim Cornette Reviews The Chyna Documentary on Vice
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- From Episode 386 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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it's hard not to feel bad for her, she was literally saying 'can you help me?" and the guy was recording her high trying to make a buck off of her. When Mick Foley came up and hugged her, that was probably the only person who didnt want something from her.
that was a powerful moment, and i think she felt that, exactly what you said, that mick didnt want anything other then to see an old friend. Id bet thats what choked her up so much there, like seeing the one member of your estranged family that you didnt ever have a single problem with
Mick Foley really is the best. The classiest guy in wrestling
@Keith1974 nah, Ric Flair always shits on him.
@Keith1974
Undertaker as well.
Yeah Foley seemed to genuinely love her and like someone said was probably the only person around her who didn’t want anything from her
I choked up when she was playing the Cello with a black eye and that sad, sad look on her face. R I P girl, I hope you’re healing now.
She's dead.
I believe she finally found the peace she never had down here.
She died in 2016
@@Lingerer_ 0
She ls not healing she's six feet undertaker
"Why didn't you help her, instead of pushing her over the cliff?!"
Corny hits the nail on the head, that's why I couldn't watch.
You saved yourself. The fucks surrounding her were so scummy Russo....RUSSO...came off looking like a saint.
@Peter Stevenson yeah and if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle. if dont mean shit
@I am Supernaut What? He didn't look good at all. He spewed the same BS narrative about the Stone Cold Podcast when everyone know that Chyna was not allowed in the HOF because of her drug problems, not the porn, while he blamed WWE for everything despite the fact that he exploited her on his podcast, knew she was having problems and did NOTHING to help her while bashing WWE for not helping her. Russo came off like an even bigger piece of shit than he already was.
But he was wrong about that, Russo didn’t push her off a cliff, it was the sleezy manger guy and those other fucks. The anti-Russo are stuff in this review are all just Corny’s bias talking. He shouldn’t be commenting on whether or not Russo and Chyna were good friends post-WWE. He wouldn’t know the extent of their relationship
"Be very careful who you take advice from." - A wise man
these fools literally used her to death, and tried putting the blame on one another
Exactly, which is why I am disgusted by the whole program using Joanie Lauer as an excuse to bash WWE, news flash, one doesn't need legitimacy to bash anyone, ever. So, i don't comprehend why legitimacy is needed here.
By the end I was almost crying she was just a lost soul who no one could bring back
Rest in PARADISE CHYNA! YOU GAVE ME MANY GOOD MEMORYS GROWING UP! THANKYOU
Didn't Sean waltnan xpac get her addicted ?
She chose that Life.
To me she will always be my Wonder Woman. As a teenager growing up, I had a rough time, school sucked and I was bullied on a nearly daily basis. Seeing Chyna wrestle got me thru the worst of days. I still love her and miss her. R.I.P. ❤️
👍
Right on 🙌
She was my hero, I wish I could have met her, if I could have met her I would hug her and tell her she was amazing we love you. She save my life during my darkness time in my life. May She rest in peace.
She was a liar and drug addict not a wonder woman
@@lolriots7107 she’s wasn’t a wonder women to you speak for yourself
How the Bellas made it to the hall of fame before her makes no sense to me whatsoever
Actually, Chyna made it to the Hall of Fame before the Bellas as a member of DX.
@@ThatDoesntWorkForMeBrother yea but I think the person means Chyna as a solo but yes you are technically correct
Anyone makes the HoF it doesn't mean shit now any more
How about Elizabeth?
Because they couldn't trust her with a live microphone. Which idc if it's unpopular, they were correct. I wouldn't have either. Now that she's passed, if they do they're still gonna shit on for not doing it when she was alive.
I changed my mind about Chyna when I had some interactions with her online. She was as kind as could be and even supported some of our stuff. What was so sad is she desperately wanted to be in the WWE HOF as a single wrestler & while she was alive she was not going to get it and I think she knew it. NO ONE was there for her. She had no chance.
I also had a brief correspondence with her in 2005 and I agree with you completely. She was kind and encouraging at a time when I needed encouragement. You are I were fortunate to see a side of her that the public didn't see.
Her appearence in Beyond The Mat is telling to who she was. She's at the height of her fame in the movie and she comes across as the most down-to-earth, likable person in her brief appearance
I also talked to her one time, through a bathroom glory hole at a Kwik Stop. Nice gal. Huge glory hole.
What kind of online interaction was it? Was she a webcam girl?
Ty
Billy Gunn’s match with her was truly the nicest thing I saw in her era. No one else would go out and wrestle her but Gunn stepped up and did.
Jim, if you ever personally see this : THANK YOU for opening your mind and not just mindlessly burying her some more. She was a troubled soul but she was a good person and the world did her wrong. Plain and simple. Hope she’s at peace
Yup. Everyone is a victim...
@@GinEric84 Nah, not everyone.
No, the world didn't do her wrong. She did herself wrong, by being an addict, who never sought help, because she refused to admit she had a problem.
@@LadyDragonsblood what a stupid fucking take lol
@@LadyDragonsblood also you like Jericho. Jesus Christ
Chyna always gave me the impression she was a nice person that just kept getting involved with bad ppl but this doc makes that an understatement yikes. I remember when she was on The Surreal Life and Sean Waltman showed up and he himself was a drug addled mess and I kept thinking how traumatic that must have been for her really felt bad for her ever since.
She seemed deep down like a nice person but was just a lost soul
I remember watching her on “The Surreal Life” or whatever that reality show was with her and the guy who played “Mini-Me.”
All I could think when I saw her on it was, “That woman is hurting and in a dark place. Somebody needs to help her.”
I hope she’s found some measure of peace in the hereafter because she didn’t seem to get much respite here.
I remember an episode when xpac came on and he was so out of it with the alcohol.
Too well said and empathetic for anything wrestling related.
Brutally true.
Yeah she was on one of the spin off shows called "Fame Games" where the Host Robin Leech created to get these "celebrities" to be punished by having shitty accommodations. But the show came off really bad. They would have two teams, they called them "The A-list" and the "The C-list" and every episode they would give the "A-List" all the good food, the good cars, and then give the C-List teams literally nothing to eat and make them walk to the daily competitions. It was really degrading.
Anyways, Chyna ended up on the "C-List" team on day one and I think she, mentally, wasn't in a good place at that time so doing that to her didn't help her.
She was a total mess, seemed like she was high as a kite the whole time.
She was making videos and social media posts that she had no friends or family. It was probably hard to get information on her other than old coworkers. No. Her publicist was not her friend.
@Peter Stevenson stfu
@@honeybadgerftuw Good job adding to the conversation.
When I saw that last video I knew something was wrong and before u knew it she was gone..
she was very active online. The one thing she didn't allow is for fans to call her Joanie. She was Chyna through and through. She was very nice online and even retweeted one of our shows which I thanked her. Kind to the core. From wrestlers to post wrestling it was like she never had anyone that was for her. Her sister was the only one but because she wanted her to go to rehab Chyna cut her out.
Some of you should listen to stone cold podcast after she passed! He clearly says how great she was and how over she was at the time. Even the story of when she said “why would we wait for stone cold” “we should already be up there in the ring” and stone cold laughed saying how much she believed in her gimmick and he appreciated her so much. For the top dog to say that about you that’s because you are that good!
Stone cold is not the end all be all and is not our God. Ppl still can have their opinions on things and critique what they see. Just cause Michael jordan hold certain players on a pedestal don’t mean we have to. He’s going based on what HE thinks and how he feel.
@@flashbaby3591 oh shut up
Chyna shaking Marlena looked so brutal.
Jim is right too. Less would have been more with Chyna and her career would have been better for it.
When I first saw Chyna way back in the beginning my jaw dropped, I know she wasn't a great worker, but I loved her anyway.
I started thinking about her again right before she died. Chyna is the reason I got back into wrestling, thanks to YT, and I truly love it and appreciate the business. She indirectly brought me back to you! I wish Chyna knew how many people actually care about her and she had better people in her life that didn't blow smoke up her ass.
I have the documentary saved to my "watch later" list but I'm almost afraid to watch it because it sounds depressing.
Corny, you're so right about the sleazy manager and crew, no wonder she was still so messed up. I'm just ill over this!
I thought Jim was a little harsh on Chyna in the past. Haven't seen this doc, but good to hear it's changed Jim's feelings a little
@Keith1974 JR even said she would have probably made that or more if she'd signed the deal he offered. It just wouldn't have been guaranteed.
Jim did it again . "Bad stiff work" , he said that coffee went flying out of my mouth and I was laughing so hard I couldn't catch my breath. I need a oxygen tank to listen to this show or it's really gonna kill me one day .
@@corymoore2927 he had one awhile ago, they were talking about ring rats, and was talking about women who ride you too hard, he said something like "then you have those ones that insist on beating you to death with their crotch" and i laughed for a good half hour at that one 🤣🤣
@@Smokey1419 lol 😂 ! I remember that one , Jim is something else .
Will it ease your mind to let you know that I’ve met her more than once, and an honestly tell you she was a mess and a nightmare personality?
This was strictly in the year 2000 but I saw her freak out and it was horribly childish and spoiled.
I actually attended the memorial service in Redondo Beach CA. I ignored the sleazy management and just wanted to pay respects to my childhood heroine. 🌹 I always felt she should've just stayed living a normal quiet life in Japan or even USA.. forget all the past b.s. she could've done appearances if she wanted. I'm so sad to hear that people wanted a piece of her to take advantage, opportunists... one day, they will have to answer for their behavior when they meet the good Lord. -- I wish I could've met Chyna and gave her the biggest hug ever and I hope that she is resting in peace now, I hope she knows that the fans really, truly loved her so much. God bless and keep sweet Joanie... 🌹💜 #Mamacita #NinthWonder
There are no gods.
She should've just started doing porn from the beginning probably would be still alive
She wasn't living a quiet life in Japan. She was arrested a couple of times over there.
@@Spreading-Truth9481 no, we won’t.
@@Spreading-Truth9481how do you know god is real? Riddle me that
To be fair, at least Chyna went to proper training at Killer Kowalski's place. Every time I hear a story of someone coming from there, it did well for them. Some (one I can remember ) people lied and said they trained there. I hope Chyna is at peace now. She's the reason why I wanted to be the 2nd female intercontinental champ (hey I know. just let dreams be lol)
Mass Trans lied about being trained there.
@@thebestintheworld1559 lol wasn't gonna name names. May he also be at peace. He was just trying to get a foot in as many have tried.
Dreams make Life tolerable
Probably the most famous lie was Mass Transit, saying he trained under Kowalski
@@FozzQuaker Mass Transit trained under Burger King
Don't treat me like a woman, don't treat me like a man. Don't treat me like you know me. Treat me for just who I am👍
Always be careful what you ask for because you just might get it and get it right up the ass and good and hard at that.
I don't think I could watch anything about Chyna at this point. She had such a hard life.
@Brian Hacker so? He cant feel sorry for people?
@Brian Hacker well what was your point captain obvious?
@Brian Hacker youre pointing out something really obvious. No shit life is hard for many.
@Brian Hacker as you are known as the women in your town, “the creep i found staring in my bedroom window” ;D
@Brian Hacker we're not talking about people, we're talking about Chyna. When a documentary is made about everyone then your comment can have weight. For now, it just sounds like an insensitive piece of garbage is attempting to broadcast his opinion without humility. Nope, can't have that dipshit
Eddie and Chyna was probably the best part of her wrestling career
in hindsight yes
But maybe they did drugs after the shows, we know Eddie also had troubles...
i liked her during her inital debut year with shawn, and hhh
edit: woah its not often where i completely agree wit jim.
It was. Period.
It was a highlight but not the best part. IMO I’d say the best is a toss up between her angle with Jeff Jarrett for the IC championship and then her whole first year getting over as HHH’s bodyguard.
Definitely my favourite and the time when I found her character most likable. She and Eddy were fun together. Good chemistry.
She died of a broken heart really. It’s a sad story about how her life ended up after WWF. I remember seeing her videos on UA-cam towards the end of her life where she wanted desperately to go into the HOF and didn’t happen. They can use the porn excuse all they want but there’s people in that thing that did or have been accused of doing much worse. It’s a shame the way everything ended up.
didn't someone say they have murderers in that HOF but couldn't let her in because she did porn?
@@damonmcfarland9364 dude that killed Brody is in HoF.
@@davidritchie9344 he damn sure is
@@damonmcfarland9364 Scott Hall also has killed someone, he claims it was self defense
@@damonmcfarland9364 jimmy snuka up until he died conveniently before his murder trial
I always think back to her and HHH in Beyond The Mat when I think about Chyna. The two of them were so ambitious and mainly talked about how they were always working pretty much 24/7 for the WWF. In between booking rental cars, hotels, and flights, going to the gym, and performing in and promoting Raws, house shows, and PPVs there's no room for ANY personal time, but they didn't mind it because they believed that their work ethics would be what would take them to the top. In another universe HHH never cheated on Chyna with Stephanie she probably would have stayed with WWE and had an even better career.
HHH wanted kids and she didn't, thats why they broke up eventually
@@calebrice5707
Triple H dispelled that rumor on the Howard Stern Show. He straight up got caught cheating by leaving his briefcase with Stephanie's love letters in it open in his and Chyna's home. She saw them and freaked out. You actually picked up the "halliburton steel briefcase" and was going to bash his head with it. She stopped suddenly and said, "You ain't fucking worth it" dropped the briefcase and left.
Dr. Drew is the epitome of a "Hollywood Doctor."
Never really cared for him
Agreed.. But he did somewhat save Steve-O from himself. But I know that's unrelated to the video at hand.
The man's a fucking ambulance-chasing scumbag.
Dr. Drew: *refers to Chyna as his patient*
Also Dr. Drew: *doubles down and backs away from all culpability/blame when a "patient" of his dies*
@@PrincessofPower84 I kept a running tally of the patients that died under Dr Drew's watch.
Better than dr phil
You could hear the sorrow in Jim's voice at certain points. At the core of it all, the man has a huge heart and he knows what was right and wrong in this doc
Jim Cornette is actually a Great man.
What do you make of the beef between him and Brian Zane?
@@dannydorko7075 who?
@@Tizzo1982 the guy that does the wrestling with wregret UA-cam channel
@@dannydorko7075 I'll have to look him up. Not to familiar with him
The programme just reiterated what I think about Mick Foley. One of the nicest and best people in the world. If only we had more people like him around, the world would be a much better place. He was probably one of the only real friends she had. If she'd had a few more people like him in her life, it would have turned out differently. Much differently, in a positive way.
have u seen his podcast where he talks about the last few times he saw her ? He's about to BREAK down so badly, Chyna was even close to Micks wife, knew his kids the whole nine dude. they had dinner at each other's house did stuff outside of the ring, Mick really was such a good friend to her, it still hurts him today, u can tell he literally struggles to continue talking and smile when he speaks of her😢
Chyna got treated in a lot of ways like Andre did. She was treated as a freak because she was big and strong. Everything I saw of her outside wrestling, she seemed like she was a very sweet lady.
No comparison.
You couldnt take the Belt back from André without damaging to his Charakter.
Thats why they did the Ted Dibiasi Story.
The manager also claiming he knew it was a bad ending but didn't know she wouldn't be welcome. Chyna was pushed through this the whole time. This was a tragedy beyond anything I've ever seen.
Chyna is a legend in the wrestling business, despite what Vince and co. Have done to downplay her role. Joannie deserved better. Hope she has found peace. RIP.
She was screaming for help in the inside and people just kept treating her like shit 😞
But she also pushed a ton of people away so it’s a complicated and sad situation
I saw a couple of shoot interviews with Chyna. I felt sorry for her as well. It was obvious to me that despite her ego (which the WWE did more than feed), stubbornness and bitchy treatment to some of the people in the company (which I don't condone) Joanie was nonetheless a human being with human feelings who was manipulated, taken advantage of, and hurt by others on a number of occasions. She had her "demons", yes, she often did more to sabotage her success than increase it, but she had some serious vulnerabilities that others either didn't care about or outright exploited. She was a somewhat frail, troubled girl looking for success and acceptance, found it in one of the dirtiest businesses around, and was then left out to dry. Some of it was her fault, some of it wasn't. I just wish that more people understood that there was a side to her that deserved to be cared for.
Well said!!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏
@@TheMadHatty Thank you! She projected power but deep down she was a fragile girl. She should have had better people in her life to help look out for her rather than take advantage of her. She'll be missed.
Nicely said. She was so lost after wwe. I just wish she would have had better people in her life. She should have just left it all behind and started over. I am so sorry for her. I met her a couple of times at conventions and she was not the Chyna of old. I felt sorry for her. RIP Joanie
@@KevinG7108 I never had the chance to meet her but my ex did, sent me a picture of herself with Chyna backstage at a convention of some kind (I shudder to think that it may have been the kind of convention shown in the documentary). The good news is that she looked great. The bad news is that she died like half a year later. My ex said that they didn't talk long but that Chyna was very nice. It's a shame, she deserved better. I'm happy that she's in the HoF, I'm just sad that they couldn't have been bothered to do it while she was alive.
I don’t think she was bitchy to people. I met her back then and she was as kind as could be. There were plenty of staff around and she knew them all by name and very friendly. A lot of people want to make her look bad, especially if you notice it started a lot more when she wasn’t here to defend herself. She was a good person and the world did her wrong. Period
Mick loved her so much, he absolutely flat out refused to get ANY revenge on her when she beat the living hell out of him. It was Stone Cold that had to stun her to get revenge on her, and that was FINALLY
You gotta love how Jim and Brian talk about these shows longer then the actual shows… and most of us would rather hear those two talk about the subjects as opposed to the wwe’s talking heads
Well Corny did get sidetracked a bit with his Russo diatribes but that's why we love him
@@daleharris3809 😅 we wouldnt know it was the corny drive-thru without them. lol.
@@ambert.3792 This is The Experience. Lol but close.
@@daleharris3809 which was unnecessary. Corny wouldn’t know the extent or details of Chyna’s post-WWE relationships and friendships. Just another example of Corny’s bias talking and acting like everyone else should feel the same way, just because he personally feels that way about someone.
@@tededwards5709 Chynas struggles post WWE have been pretty well documented, not just by Chyna herself but people close to her
Whether you're a fan of her "work" or not, she was a major player during the biggest era of wrestling, EVER. Also, it's hard to argue with the fact that WWE fucked her over royally. I was a fan of her work and LOVED seeing her on my TV every Monday. R.I.P. Joanie.
I was angry with Triple H when he said "I don't want my children googling Chyna on the internet after she gets into the hall of fame" about putting Joanie in the WWE HOF.
@@GenGamesUniverse I agree with you. I mean if you Google Hulk Hogan these days, you'll find his sex vid online. And they had that dude appearing on the most recent WrestleMania. It's just completely biased that Joanie will not be inducted into the HOF.
How did WWE “fuck her over”
@@jobiec420 I don't care about sex tapes and I didn't agree with HHH, but in defense of Hogan, he was taped in secret and the tape was put out without his knowledge.
@@jobiec420 She is in the hall of fame. She was just inducted this year as a member of Degeneration X
I'd always heard how sweet she really was. It's a damn shame how her life turned out.
One of the most depressing things I ever watched. That video where that d--kwad Anthony is helping her order prescription drugs illegally made me truly ill. An addict hanging with other addicts ain't going to end well. Joanie should have just stayed in Japan.
I've always liked, Chyna and I believe that if she really wanted to be a big star. She could have just skipped pro-wrestling and honed her craft in bodybuilding and Movies. I think she could have been a pretty good Wonder Woman had she dedicated herself to acting. She could have had a much better life and still with us if she was surrounded by all the right people. I still have her comic book! I wish I met her when I had the chance.
I wish she got the role in Terminator 3. She was the only woman who could have been the female version of The Rock in Hollywood
@@usera1113 I thought she could have had that role too.
I believe if she started out with porn and dedicated and honed her craft in that she would be one of the world favorites playgirls and still alive today.
Zena princess warrior played by Chyna would've been great.
In my opinion the WWE’s Woman’s Battle Royal should be the Chyna Memorial Battle Royal.
It should be the George Floyd and Ahmed Johnson battle royal for men and Chyna and Mae Young for the girls
@@chadzbirdzofficial4631 You are joking, right? What is your criteria for choosing those names?
@@thomass789 Ahmed Johnson first black IC champ and was hot plus never got beat for the title . Mae Young was a very intense lover during her relationship with Mark Henry who was an Olympian and proved older woman can be sexy. I just put Chyna in because the other person said that and alot of people seem to like george floyd
@@chadzbirdzofficial4631 Seems like some strange logic, but at least you have your reasons. To each his own. Thanks for explaining, I was really confused.
@@thomass789 Thank you and god bless you forever. Who would you pick if they were to change the names of the battle royals? Maybe ill leave George Floyd off my list since he wasn't actually a wrestler and add Iron Sheik instead or Macho Man
Sorry off topic but "Shitstain" never gets old lol
I love the moment where Corny calls him by his real name accidentally and then corrects himself.
Lmfaooooo
Corny’s “Shitstain” rant that prompted Russo to get that Order of Protection was absolutely EPIC!!! 🤣🤣🤣
@@sidetrippingwithcary TBH I understand why Russo did that considering the tone and wording Cornette used at the end of that rant.
@@Tim85-y2q I might have to re-listen to it. IIRC, it was a good 20 minutes long of straight vitriol!
"I didn't know you could become a Mormon in Japan, I thought you had to go to Utah to become a Mormon" 😆 Lol
kinda insane he just talked about this as i read this exact comment...surreal
Chyna had a heart of gold and was absolutely gorgeous.
@Qanon for morons Absolutely. Especially that Inoki chin of hers.
I'd wrap that Inoki chin of her's in a pearl necklace any ol 'time.
"Scuzzy"....perfect description of people in her life
Jesus Christ, I was on the fence for a week about whether or not I wanted to watch the doc. I finally did and it's, unsurprisingly, 100% as hard to watch as everyone says it is. For me, the best way to describe it would be "the most disturbing found-footage horror movie ever made." The cold horror and tension that runs through it because you know how the story's going to end... not something I'll ever want to watch again, but I highly recommend it. Definitely changed the way I think about her, she seems like a very guarded soul, with probably a lot more stuff in her past than she told even the people in the documentary about. The one guy with the doc crew seemed all right but her manager and the fucking filmmaker who wanted to party with her, Jesus Christ.
Not a good look for Trips, either. No idea how Paul sleeps at night.
I thought Jim had a great line to sum up the producers - "their own mothers should curse the day they gave birth to them"
@@josephstewart2821 Yep, that line stood out to me. Absolute sleazeballs to this day.
Can we all admit Dr. Drew is a total coattail rider? Every Celebrity Rehab season had people on it that needed real medical help, not a reality show. Its sad to think Dr. Drew got paid fat bc of people's life threatening additions.
by the end, I just wanted to give her a hug, it was sad knowing she was that close to dying and asked for help and wasn't getting it
She was in denial as well....she cut ties with her sister when her sister wanted her to find help.
It always kind of bugged me how down on Chyna Jim always was. Glad to see some empathy . I agree she was not a good worker but she had a great presence and as stated really got used up and thrown away.
He never downplayed her being a bodyguard/valet/manager. He just said she was terrible as a wrestler, and because she was being booked on intergender matches with top guys around 1999. She got decent positive crowd reaction, but it wasn't huge.
@@takerdust agree with that. But he also went way out of his way to put her down as far as her her looks are concerned. Anvil faced rings a bell. She just seemed like a very down on her self person and that always came off as very cheap shots with me. Hes entitled to his opinion of course. And I do seem to be a mark on this subject.
This doc is definitely no Dark Side that's for sure.
It is amazing how the original director was on heroin and other drugs when filming while she was alive.
Not really any good guys in they were very exploitive and toxic influences around her.
She was so strong but so delicate.
🎯
Like a cheese
We're all delicate in the wrong circumstances.
I think it was Hellwig that said it best that every bodybuilder is trying to hide their confidence or approval issues. It's almost weird that Chyna pretty much confirmed it by saying she got into bodybuilding so she could feel better about her appearance.
The thing that pissed me off is HHH saying that because Chyna did adult movies it would be difficult having her in the hall of fame when many wrestlers even now in the WWE have been convicted of manslaughter, murder, and rape. What a hypocrite HHH is.
There is absolutely nobody in WWE that is convicted of murder 🙄
@@mjstory1976 Booker T was convicted of violent armed robbery. His brother was convicted of manslaughter.
That still isn't murder
@@mjstory1976 A life was taken and Booker T's brother made a plea deal to not be charged with first degree murder. My point is that HHH should be more offended that some of his wrestlers are violent convicted criminals and not Chyna's Adult movie career which harmed no one.
Tammy was in porn
I could really listen to Jim Cornette all day long. He is blunt and somewhat coarse at times, however, he is actually very open minded and gives REALLY good overall advice in my opinion. Seems like a down to Earth, straight shooter. RIP Chyna.
On a lighter note: "The fact he kept referring to this man as "Shit stain"🤣😂
He always calls Russo "Shit Stain". There are certain people he has derogatory nicknames for, and always uses those.
In 1999 after her first jaw surgery, Chyna looked exactly like Wonder Woman in the current comics at the time. She was even considered a for a movie. While having limited acting skills, Joanie could've made a decent WW movie that fit for early 2000s along side the 1st X-Men and Tony's Spiderman movie.
As usual Mick Foley looks like the great guy he is, and almost everyone else in this movie looked like the lowest form of life. How unfortunate visa problems made her return to the USA. I think if she stayed in Japan she may still be around today.
His insights were the best part of Dynamite Kid episode.
Dude the other guys especially that manager guy came across very very scummy I hate to say this because it sounds horrible but I’m convinced he was just trying to get in her pants
Can't help but wonder if she ended up a Joshi. Those chicks would've been a challenge to her unlike the "Divas" and only a few of em were a challenge and not once was she pit against them smh
With the friends she had, who the hell needs enemies. Losing your s/o to the boss kid, when everyone knew behind your back. Sheesh.
Pro wrestling continues to teach me about life. How often does "they began believing their own gimmick" apply, irl. Pretty deep.
Really??? That's fucked-up. Don't let the shit teach you too much. Find something else to teach you about life.
When someone is blowing smoke up ur ass, they normally do that to gain something from you.
Lol that’s not some unique thing with wrestling. You’ve never heard “he believed his own myth”? You could literally say the same thing about someone like jimmy hoffa, Pablo Escobar or bugsy Siegel. I wouldn’t say organized crime is a great place to learn lessons about life
"To stop her having a jawline like Antonio Inoki" I popped at that one !
Same 😂
That was fucking hilarious
You feel proud you got to use some jargon at some weak assed line? Fool
I laughed out loud for a good at least 20 seconds at that.
And you can hear Brian groan like "come on dude, really?"
I love it when Jim addresses the dickhead he's ranting about directly. I usually stop what I'm doing to not miss a word of the tapestry of curses, swearing, name calling, and the like that comes out of his mouth. God, I love this show
No matter what, she made her mark and we remember her. RIP Joanie Laurer.
Yes she did, she influenced a lot of female wrestlers lot ODB and others.
@@conniecarroll7222 Chyna had a big influence on Beth Pheonix's career. Beth talks a lot about her love for Chyna on the Icons episode on the network
"Vince, Corny's yelling at me in front of the boys!"
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
On of the funniest Cornette stories of all time.......😏
@Brian Hacker "nobody cares," NOW.
Ahahahahahaha! LMAO! 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
A few years ago I had a addiction to benzos and opioids and stopping was one of the hardest things Ive ever had to do and one of main reasons I was able to stop was that I had a support system. I feel like chyna had no support system. The people around her were just as high as chyna was and no one wanted tried to help her. I understand that you’re the one who ultimately uses the drugs but at that point in her life, the “filmmakers” she aligned herself with manipulated her so much. I feel so sorry for her. I hope she’s at peace now.
I pray that GOD continues to bless you and your family. Congratulations on being a better you.
@@cchisolm92cc thank you 🙏 that means a lot
Great work for getting clean. Getting off Suboxone has been a MFer for me, benzos are even harder, it is genuinely very hard
@@jimreily7538 I was right there with you dude, I was addicted to norcos and Xanax and A big reason why I stopped was that I had a seizure from Xanax withdrawals and I knew then I had to stop. The look on my wife’s face still haunts me. You can do this brother! If you have health insurance, you should use it and go to treatment. It’s what I did and that feeling of not being controlled anymore by a substance is better then any high
@@Stumpers24 I appreciate that man. Genuinely. I've been sucking up these Suboxone withdrawals for what seems like an epoch now. Getting all weepy and teary eyed, enduring the restless legs and all that, the GI symptoms and the rest of it. When you went into treatment, did you just go cold turkey off the Norcos ? Or did you go maintenance therapy ? I'm curious because I'm in a pretty tough spot right now and it's easy to lose hope, just real easy to not see the light at the end of the tunnel when the withdrawals last so damned long. Like, I'm waiting for that feeling of feeling human again but sometimes I feel it'll never come again. I'm so tired too, I've been tired for months now. It's soul sucking stuff. I'm up against it here man, I really am. I appreciate your comment, honestly.
Rest in peace to Chyna. She seemed like a really sweet person outside of the ring, and honestly she got royally screwed over by everyone around her. I feel so bad for her. I really hope she is resting easy now, finally at rest, and she really has the validation she deserved in her lifetime. Those scumbags who took advantage of her, I agree with Corny, they should be arrested. There’s a special place in hell for people like them.
It's so funny to hear "Shit Stain" roll off of Jim's tongue, like his mom gave him that name! LMAO
She was amazing regardless of Corny take on her in ring and promos not up to standards. Fans loved her! 😍
I gotta say, when Jim talks about the 6 outta 10 being changed to 7 out of 10 matches ending in DQ, I feel him. When people ask me why don't I watch WWE anymore, I always respond "Because of someone running in or something happening and it ends in Disqualification... It's BORING. Just pick an effin winner is that so hard?" Haven't been able to watch WWE again even though I don't think this is the case anymore.
"six matches were gonna end in disqualification". . . .well that's better than every match ending in a distraction with a surprise roll up like they do now.
yeah it went from, "end in disqualification. then, every match is an interference/ run in. then every match is a distraction surprise roll up.
And there's still alot of DQs
So soft turds are better than diarrhoea. Alright...
Great standards we apply here.
*For one of the strongest women in the world she was so gentle, kind and sweet. She was too genuine and pure hearted for this business.*
She loss a boxing match to flabby Joey Buttafueco but in wrestling she can beat Chris Jericho smh
@@nicolebailey4426 almost like Boxing and Wrestling are 2 totally separate sports...
" one of the strongest Women in the World "??????????????? You've got to be kidding me! You watch way to much WWE!
Cornette is the only person that can make me belly laugh at stories from before I was even born 😅😅 What a great story teller lol
Good lord that was a sad documentary due to all of the issues involved. The documentary crew was a mess and her manager and the producer or director guy doing heroine all the time was ridiculous. Chyna obviously needed so much help and Dr. Drew was the only one in the documentary that probably could have made a difference. The rest of the crew was a mess. Chyna was definitely one of a kind and there will never be another female wrestler like her. She should be in the WWE hall of fame but we all know what a joke that is anyways!!
She is in the WWE hall of fame
@@conniecarroll7222 As a member of DX but not an individual
mic foley is one of the best humans in the business.
@Tim C No what?? Mick still had respect for Ric Flair even after he's bashed Foley repeatedly for years. If that's not being a nice human being, then I don't know what is.
We interviewed mick on our podcast and you are right. We talked off air and he was very passionate about his views but he was also very honest about the state of wrestling and what a tough racket it is.
Got to admit I've always been a fan of Chyna, yes she was mediocre at best in the ring but outside the ring it seems like she just wanted to be loved, and people took advantage of that. This is why I honestly hate humans.
At the same time she is also responsible for her very own actions and she has made a lot of bad decisions in her life after WWE. Nobody can help you except you. People do indeed suck considering how she was taken advantage of but the whole “I hate humans” is a bit dramatic.
@@jay_1212 I agree. We lost alot of LEGENDS in the business and Yeah you're responsible for your own actions. I was mad when Perfect passed like cocaine are you serious?
Olvacron, I just picked up the new Dinobot, awesome I must say.
@@jay_1212 Really? If you are trying to imply that AA and rehab don't work, well I agree with you (AA has a 5 - 8% efficacy rate), but then we need to get rid of all these counselors and doctors that have licenses in helping people other than themselves.
@@satsubatsu347 that was no where near what I was implying. Reaching to the moon much? What I was saying is that Chyna has constantly found herself in these bad situations being taken advantage of and that she needed to look within herself rather than going to shady people. Nowhere in what I said did I imply anything about programs being unreliable but rather you have to be able to rely on yourself first and foremost. Not to mention going to therapy and AA is a step towards helping yourself and yes ultimately you are responsible bc it’s up to you to follow through with the program and try to stay sober.
Now I'm not sure, but it seems Cornette doesn't care for this Vince Russo person. Probably just a misunderstanding, I'm sure they'll shake hands and make up soon.
(In my Clay Davis voice) Shiiiiiiid
im so bored of this feud i want to stress this simple fact - maybe they both suck
😂😂😂
Cornette just wishes he could have gotten the ratings Russo did for the wwf
OH U DIDN’T KNOW?!!...
U can ask most ANYBODY!!!!
Yes , there’s been public incidents, police called , restraining orders.. threats of lawsuits etc etc
It’s all real lol
Have so much respect for Jim here, he calls this as he sees it.
Brian's reaction to "Dee-Q, Shmee-Q, nobody cares." 😂
I kept waiting for Jim to call the filmmakers "bank addicted drug robbers", LOL
That Vice documentary was tough to watch, and I was shocked at that huge black eye she had at the end and I knew right there she was done. Rest in peace Joanie
41:35 -- "Damnitt!" THAT'S THE FUNNIEST THING I'VE EVER HEARD, JIM SAID IT WITH SUCH DISAPPOINTMENT IN HIS VOICE LIKE HE JUST FOUND OUT AND IT DEVASTATED HIM HAHAHAHAHAHA
Started it today. I DVR everything wrestling and watch em later. I'll finish it later, but I wanted to say that I do enjoy listening to cornie's reviews of them as supplements to the actual documentaries. Even though does drive me up a wall sometimes, but much respect.
I think she made a huge mistake coming back to the USA. She seemed happy when she was living in Japan working as a teacher, or at least somewhat content and at peace. Then Triple H made his comments about why she shouldn't be in the HoF, then Russo had her on his podcast, and then it just seemed to careen downhill quite quickly.
She had to leave - she didn’t have the right visa.
Speaking of the memorial service, I must say that Sean Waltman cried and said he always loved her.
I will not sit here and call that man a liar, only he knows if that was truth from his heart or not. Despite things he may have said negative about her in past. It seems all was forgiven and forgotten once that person has passed away.
RVD and Melina were in attendance as well, not sure who else but, one thing is certain... sleazy managers aside, everyone that was there besides them that evening... we came in droves for Joanie/Chyna. 🌹🦋
My heart broke for Chyna during this.
On a side note, I can't hear the name Dr. Drew without thinking about the Doug Stanhope bit about him... which actually (unintentionally) adds to Jim's description of "everyone in this documentary is a scumbag"
Stanhope is awesome, he's got major NFG energy
Rest In Peace joanie. We love and forever miss you.
Jim Cornette: "You can't get drugs in Japan."
Nosawa Rongai: "Alcohol is a drug."
Ayako Hamada: "Snort"
I love Travis attention to details. Jim with his DX shirt tucked into his jeans lol, just like Michaels used to always do. Such a stupid look and completely killed his supposed-rebel gimmick.
Lol. 9/10 times Austin had his shirt tucked into his jorts and jeans. It was the 90’s. We were tuckers.
Hell even UNDERTAKER had his shirt tucked in throughout the 90's, and he was literally a zombie
Triple h and stephanie certainly didn’t help the matter that’s for sure
It was heart breaking that every one knew she was struggling but no one helped her. Not a single person from WWE...
Mick showed love but ur right great documentary but piece of shit people no one helped at all watched her died and black mailing when she did the sex tape. But unfortunate
@@michaelkobebryant2514 and Mick has a wife and 5 children i believe. There was so much he could've done.
They offer free rehab for their former wrestlers.
And that's what killed her in the end. She just wanted the Chyna name back and actually you know make a living. Rehab didn't mean shit. Like a line that was in the VICE documentary what was she supposed to do work at Mcdonalds after? The WWE has always had its dark history full of pettyness, malice, and evil like the Owen Hart incident, but this one tragedy is also one that will leave a dark mark on them. Fuck them inducting her AFTER she died when they closed the door on them when the press for them turned into a disaster. Hearing HHH crying about his health scare is karma to the asshole who didn't care about his ex having been dealt a harsh hand, and didn't care.
@@cchisolm92cc that's not fair.
From the sleazeball manager to the addict documetary guy high out of his mind.These were the people she needed least in her life around her.R.I.P JOANIE
Foley was the only decent guy in the documentary
It brought me to tears. That poor woman.
Lmao 😂 I thought you had to go to Utah to become a Mormon... as a Mormon we got missionaries everywhere. And yeah everybody failed her so much. It’s sad but she honestly should have stayed in Japan. Man these people in this documentary sound like real fucking winners
Triple H was the scum bag for cheating on her, instead of breaking up with her
I loved chyna. But I agree with Jim. She was great as the bodyguard interfering in matches
Lowkey shame on WWE too, we asked for Chyna for years in the HoF, ofc it had to be her death that put her in, image he reception she woulda got, idk maybe she woulda realized, saw, and heard how loved she was
The more I saw Shitstain in that documentary the more I understood why Jim despises the little gremlin so much.
Who is shitstain?
@@knightpryde Vince Russo
Not gonna lie. I LOVED Chyna. She meant a lot to many female fans for so many reasons. She represented a strong , beautiful, fierce, and independent woman who took shit from nobody. Joannie lived such a troubled life after WWE. It was very sad to see how mistreated she was INCLUDING by HHH and Stephanie. I was heartbroken when she passed away. The Chyna character was such an inspiration to women all over the world. Don't you just "love" how Shit stain always finds a way to make everything about him. What a fuck knuckle.
I enjoyed Chyna aka Joanie Lauren as well
Sean Waltman is another lowlife who treated her like shit
She’s such a beautiful soul and I hope she’s at peace 🙏🏼❤️
"represented a strong , beautiful, fierce, and independent woman who took shit from nobody"
So did Sherri Martel.
I understand you admired her (for all the reasons you mention), but it was all fake. She was suffering FOR REAL, and she didn't get the help & treatment she needed because she lived in this superficial fantasy world. I'm glad she had a positive effect on you, but she was killing herself to avoid dealing with her problems. The thing is, she didn't see herself as "strong, beautiful, fierce, and independent," because she tried to cover up all her pain by playing make-believe. Don't you think it's better to pursue those things for real, rather than make a spectacle of herself while she's dying inside? That's tragic.
Legally, I can’t threaten those filmmakers. However, it is tragic that of all the people that are still alive, they are amongst the many. I felt myself get helplessly angry watching this.
@XxMoney3DxX 100%
@XxMoney3DxX We can hope
God some of you dont half write a load of shit
Slapping or punching a person is only a misdemeanor. Unless one causes serious damage. Then a assault becomes a felony.
I wish more ppl learned that assault is only a misdemeanor. Be a lot less “Karen’s” in the world.
39:58 - Wow . . . The more I hear people talk about the experiences they've had, the more I'm convinced that disfunction is unbelievably widespread.
It was really sad to see what happened to Chyna at the end. Those documentary film makers and especially her "manager" should all be in prison, in fact I hope they watch this whole documentary and feel so bad about what they have done and the parts that they each played in Chyna's death that they all end their own lives.
I hope Chyna can rest in peace. What these leaches did to her is horrid. Nothing but people trying to use her all the way down.
17:29 very true. Considering what she went through and knowing her emotional ways to everyday life and her past traumas it doesn't really help to sell topless type photos cause she was obviously trying to get back on a clean slate if you want to say that.
I'll always remember that striking amazon look that no other woman had...she was very memorable. God rest her soul