Romantic Comedies of the 90s - You Gotta Hear This! - Ep. 3 feat. Troy Baker
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Episode 3 of YGHT explores highlights of that surprisingly magical time in the 90s when romantic comedies led to an abundance of soulful, lush orchestral scores.
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I see this new DLC comes with the Smokey Eyes skin pack for the Troy Character...
And the winner of the best comment I've seen today goes to...
I am slowly becoming more and more of an Austin Wintory fan through Play, Watch, Listen and this podcast. I love when he goes off on stories about different composers and musicians. It’s fucking brilliant.
me too but not "slowly"
If Play, Watch, Listen is 'Cheers', this podcast is Frasier. For the more discerning listener, lol 😊. Love this podcast!
Thats a dope analogy
You’ve sold me. I fucking love frasier
Austin: You might recognise this, I don't expect you to
Troy: I'm about to end this man's whole career
I just assumed the eyeliner was just Troy being Troy... lol
How does Troy look like he’s in his 20’s when he shaves his facial hair off, yet I look like a Ninja Turtle when I do? Lol
Love this podcast though!
Good lookin dude + makeup!
It’s the eyeliner
"So, on our last ep-- Previously, on You Gotta Hear This..."
Troy is so deft, and so precise, you'd think there was an edit there. Fucking hilarious
Two men looking fabulous while having incredibly insightful discussions about movie scores. What more could you ask for?
Quickly climbing the ranks of favorite podcasts ❤️ 🎶
It's so good to hear them just talk pure music for about an hour and just them 2
Agree 👍
James’ score for Peter Pan was the first film soundtrack I think I bought for myself, I was obsessed with that when it came out.
Loved everything about this episode, hearing these scores instantly conjures up images of a classic rom-com opening credits scene, the camera slow pans from the sky to the roof of a house or the front door as the music floats over the top of it. Scores like these ones always feel so comforting, even if the movie was a comedy rather than a romantic film, they always felt like a big warm hug.
Oof, this episode brought up some real 90’s kid feels 😆
Maaan, the score that put James Newton Howard on the map for ME was Signs. I've always adored that he was able to craft such a tense/anxious atmosphere while keeping every last aspect completely musical rather than other horror scores that put emphasis on jump scares and ambient noise. His sense of orchestration and voicing has and always will be top tier to me.
SIGNS is a masterpiece
@@awintory Exactly! There are very few soundtracks that I actually own a physical copy of but that IS one of them. Good thing too, cause it's not available on Spotify for whatever unfortunate reason. Very nerve racking, but never compromising complete emotional sensitivity. A first class example of structure and spotting so impeccable that the music might as well be dissolved into the screenplay.
Agreed. James Newton Howard's work with M. Night Shyamalan yielded some incredible music. The Village was THE James Newton Howard score for me. Even Lady in the Water has some excellent bits.
Signs is legendary. Probably Top 25 of all time where film scores are concerned-- masterful example of musical storytelling.
I really enjoy the role reversal you see in this podcast, where Austin is really in his element and Troy is in a more inquisitive role, prompting Austin's observations and tangents.
My favourite episode yet, thanks guys! Loved Troy's reaction to getting the score to Dave right.
As a child from the 80's this was very nostalgic for me and in such a serious world we live in atm its nice to bring some light and beauty back into it.
And Austin you really tickled me by sneaking in some Jerry Goldsmith 😂
Keep up the great work guys, much love 💕
Dave, Liar Liar and Best Friends Wedding all sound like the music behind 4 adolescent boys riding bikes to the first day of school.
It's so great that Troy is on board with the resurgence of emo bands, I wonder if next week he'll be wearing a studded choker too? 😂
Spotify really scares me.
As a classical music lover, who loves liner notes, I was hesitant for the longest time to use Spotify.
But then I saw that I was beginning to run out of space for new CD's. Again...
And so I tried the subscription after realising that basically all major labels have their entire catalogue on there.
And suddenly I had my library filled with recordings I used to have on LP, ones that I always wanted to buy, but never got around to, and loads of new stuff I never heard before.
And I realised: Before this it was a matter of space and money. I simply couldn't afford to buy more than half a dozen CD's a month at full price.
Now it is a matter of time.
I'm as old as you, Austin, and my Spotify Library grows so fast, I will never be able to listen to all that stuff before I die of old age.
And you are not helping with this show! ;)
And on the topic of "Cutthroat Island": At that time it came out, none of us saw it, but our DM for our D&D game bought the Soundtrack and used it for out seafaring adventure part filled with seamonsters and undead pirates (long before POTC).
I loved the score, and I loved that it was a Debney work (who I remembered from Seaquest DSV). When I bought my first DVD Player, among the movies I bought first was: "Cutthroat Island".
And it's not half bad.
I'm in the middle of scoring a short film, my first paid one actually (yay money) and its been probably the most challenging I've yet come across and I was starting to get a bit weighed down and honestly frustrated with it, but recently I've started binging your videos, behind the scenes on Pathless and your brilliant podcasts with legends like Bear McCreary and Marty O'Donnell and Gustavo Santaolalla (who's Last of Us and Ronroco albums taught me to play guitar) and you've helped remind me of the beauty and fun in making music, I honestly feel revitalised.
Thank you, Austin :)
PS: after all that I really hope the soundtrack doesn't end up sucking haha
Okay wow I’m sorry I’m late to the party haha! But man James Newton Howard is such a great composer and I agree that he’s not that talked about. I became familiar with him through his Disney scores to Dinosaur, Atlantis and Treasure Planet. My absolute favorite score of his however was for Peter Jackson’s King Kong. When I saw it in theaters I immediately was blown away by the soundtrack. Oh man such a powerful and huge score very akin to Steiner but definitely no less Newton Howard’s style.
Seemingly off topic, but Bruce Broughton's score for "Harry and the Hendersons" and Lee Holdrige's score for "Splash" (a bit more on topic) always fills that 'lush orchestral comedy' space in my memory. Both from the 80s... yeah generally off topic. But hey! Music!
This episode was very nostalgic for me.
These great .
Oh man, I love these podcasts! As a gamer and composer, its fun to have two of my favorite people from the industry just chatting 😄
Should play Korngold's Kings Row suite for Troy. I remember my jaw dropped when I first heard that. Also Armageddon/The Rock would be fun as long as we're in the unapologetic 90s :)
Yeah, I wonder if he would immediately be like "Star Wars!"
33:51 kinda randumb, but “only trombones” made me think of Disasterpeace’s use of horn in ‘Make The Best Of It’ from Under The Silver Lake. One of the most gorgeous things I’ve ever heard.
The number of copyrights on this is going to be legendary.
It seems it's fully blocked in, curiously, Syria, Iran, Cuba and North Korea.
@@awintory that might be because of the eyeliner and less because of the music.
I called the father of the bride song right before you played it and realized I watched way too many 90s films than I wanted to admit
6:10 Nah , my favourite ASMR is a good Jerry Golsmith orchestration.
"Angie" worth it for the bowling ball bit...
OH my god I never connected it but some 90s romcom scores feel like the title scores for The Sims: goofy as hell but feels like a surprise is around every corner.
I love the different approaches to scores every episode! The topics always feel fresh.
My only problem with this podcast is that summer is coming soon so I won't be able to get cozy in a blanket during You Gotta Hear This, aka Austin's story time podcast
I absolutely love the inception level tangents of you guys!
I was listening to Troy
The music for "Father of the Bride" moved me more than the movie.
Yet that music wouldn't exist without that movie ....
@@awintory Touché!
Man, I'm a James Newton Howard fan, and a fan of cheesy romantic comedies, and a ton of movie scores. Austin, Troy, this podcast is amazing even at episode 3! And because I love orchestral scores, I love hearing a different perspective on them from you guys. So great
So much of this music reminds me of final fantasy scores
I was skipping through trying to find the The Father of The Bride bit and I captured "Can I...movie...about...how to deal with grief" and yeah, Can I movie with how to deal with grief???
Really loving this series, thanks to you two for putting it out for us all.
Once again Austin is touching on music that is so close and dear to my heart. When the finale of Liar Liar popped my heart went dancing
Really love the chemistry and content here!! Thanks for doing this
You Gotta Hear This : Episode 3 - Reference List :
* Oboe - Double reed woodwind Instrument ( Hautbois) - Musician - Oboist -
* Infamous Second Son - Game - Dev Studio Sucker Punch - Editor Sony Computer Entertainment
* My Chemical Romance - American Rock Band
* Seinfeld - American Sitcom Tv Serie - Created by Larry David & Jerry Seinfeld
* Thomas Newmann - Music Composer
* James Newton Howard - Music Composer
* Mrs Doubtfire - Film - 1993 - Dir Chris Colombus - Music Composer Howard Shore
- David Cronenberg - Film Director, ScreenWriter and Actor
* Lord of the Rings - Film Trilogy - 2001-2002-2003 - Dir Peter Jackson - Music Composer Howard Shore
* Dave - Film - 1993 - Dir Ivan Reitman - Music Composer James newton Howard
* Kevin Kline - Actor
* Ving Rhames - Actor
* Sigourney Weaver - Actress
* Alien - Film 1979 - Dir Ridley Scott - Music Composer Jerry Goldsmith
* AlienS - Film - 1986 - Dir James Cameron - Music Composer James Horner
* A Compiling Case - Film ?
* Ghostbusters - Film - 1984 - Dir Ivan Reitman - Music Composer Elmer Bernstein
* Ivan Reitman - Film and Tv Producer, Director and Screenwriter
* Chris Colombus - Film Director, Producer and Screenwriter -
* John Hugues - Director. Producer - 1950-2009
* Cannibal Girls - Film - 1973 - Dir Ivan Reitman - Music Composer Doug Riley
* Meatballs - Film - 1979 - Dir Ivan Reitman - Music Composer Elmer Bernstein
* Stripes - Film - 1981 - Dir Ivan Reitman - Music Composer Elmer Bernstein
* Dave - Film - 1993 - Dir Ivan Reitman - Music Composer James newton Howard
* My Super Ex-Girlfriend - Film 2006 - Music Composer Teddy Castellucci
* Arnold Schwarzenegger - Bodybuilder, Actor, Politician
* Danny de Vito - Actor
* Twins - Film - 1988 - Dir Ivan Reitman - Music Composer Donn Cambern & Sheldon Kahn
* Junior - Film - 1994 - Dir Ivan Reitman - Music Composer James newton Howard
* Private Parts - Film 1997 - Dir Betty Thomas - Music Composer
* Howard Stern - American Radio and Tv Personality, Comedian and Author
* Jason Reitman - Film Director, Producer and Screenwriter
* Thank you for Smoking - Film - 2005 - Dir Jason Reitman - Music Composer Rolfe Kent
* Juno - Film - 2007 - Dir Jason Reitman - Music Composer Mateo Messina
* Up in the Air - Film - 2009 - Dir Jason Reitman - Music Composer Rolfe Kent
* Liar Liar - Film - 1997 - Dir Tom Shadyac - Music Composer John Debney & James Newton Howard
* Creedance Clearwater Revival - American Rock Band
* The Eagles - American Rock Band
* The Westwing - American Tv Show - Created by Aaron Sorkin - Broadcast NBC - 1999-2006
* John Debney - Music Composer
* SeaQuest DSV - American Tv Serie - Created by Rockne S O’Bannon - Broadcast NBC - 1993-1996
* Star Trek Generations - Film 1994 - Dir David Carson - Music Composer Dennis McCarthy
* Cut Throat Island - Film - 1995 - Dir Renny Harlin -
* My Best Friend’s Wedding - Film - 1997 - Dir P.J Hogan - Music Composer James newton Howard
* Alexander Payne - Film Director, Screenwriter and Producer
* The Fugitive - Film - 1993 -
* Outbreak - Film - 1995 - Dir Wolfgang Petersen - Music Composer James newton Howard
* WaterWorld - Film - 1995 - Dir Kevin Reynolds - Music Composer James newton Howard
* The Postman - Film - 1997 - Dir Kevin Costner - Music Composer James newton Howard
* The Firm - Film - 1993 - Dir Sydney Pollack - Music Composer Dave Grusin
*Trent Reznor & Atticus Ross - Music Composers
* Nine Inch Nails - American Industrial Rock Band
* Mank - Film - 2020 - Dir ( Master ) David Fincher - Music Composer Trent Reznor & Atticus Ross
* Soul - Animated Feature Film - Dir Pete Docter - Music Composer Trent Reznor & Atticus Ross
* John Williams - Music Composer & Conductor
* Henri Mancini - Music Composer & Conductor
* Catch Me If You Can - Film - 2002 - Dir Steven Spielberg - Music Composer John Williams
* Abzu - Game - 2016 - Dev Studio Giant Squid
* Journey - Game - 2012 - Dev Studio ThatGameCompany
* Joel Miller - Character from The Game “The Last of Us “ - Actor Troy Baker
* The Matrix - Film - 1999 - Dir The Wachowskis - Music Composer Don Davis
* Joe Pantolianao - Actor
* Kobayashi Maru - Training exercise in the fictional Star Trek Universe
* Timothy Olyphant - Actor
* Rachel Portman - Music Composer
* Sirens - Film - 1994 - Dir John Duigan - Music Composer Rachel Portman
* Angie - Film - 1994 - Dir Martha Coolidge - Music composer Jerry Goldsmith
* Geena Davis - Actress
* James Gandolfini - Actor - (1961-2013)
* Alan Silvestri - Music Composer
* B.D Wong - Actor
* Back to the Future - Film 1985 - Dir Robert Zemeckis - Music Composer Alan Silvestri
* Cast Away - Film - 2000 - Dir Robert Zemeckis - Music Composer Alan Silvestri
* Forest Gump - Film - 1994 - Dir Robert Zemeckis - Music Composer Alan Silvestri
* Predator - Film - 1987 - Dir John McTiernan - Music Composer Alan Silvestri
* Robert Zemeckis - Film Director Producer and Screenwriter
* The Father and the Bride - Film - Dir Charles Shyer - Music Composer Alan Silvestri
Hope this will help all passionate people around to track back some of the references from the massive batch of culture and inspiring people and creations evoked throughout the episode.
Another Mind Blowing Episode !!! Thanks a lot for sharing ! Take Care.
These podcasts are really fantastic. I am currently getting my master's in opera performance, so I have a good base of knowledge of the big classical composers. These podcasts shine a light on film and film composing in such an educated and thoughtful way, it makes me wish more of these composers music was programed more often and that there was a deeper appreciation for their work.
Another gem for my Saturday morning routine.
I love this so much, hearing about film music every week is magic for me.
5:09
There's a French/Romanian horror flick from 2006 called "Them", does for spinning noise makers what Psycho did for showers (sorry for the trope)
Please put this on podcast services!
Very much more of this please.
The 90s is a huge decade of inspiration for me, particularly those family and romantic comedy films. They’re a master class in lovely orchestral writing. I’m constantly using that inspiration but it feels like music that isn’t written much anymore, for films that wouldn’t be made that way anymore.
Im such a nerd for these types of scores I started buying up the CD’s whenever I found them. I actually own the CD to John Debneys score for “My Favourite Martian.” 1999. The deep cuts.
Totally agree that you’d think these scores are on the nose, but they’re so not.
Would be great to go down the rabbit hole of orchestral action scores from the 90s, too! Joel Mcneely’s work alone deserves so much convo. That man is a beast. From his action 90s work to his modern Disney work. Keeping it all alive!
Great convo Austin!
Interesting little fact in Liar Liar, Debney and Newton Howard scored together. I think Newton Howard only wrote the theme. Debney did the rest!
I stated that fact about LIAR LIAR explicitly in the show :) They didn't really work together per se; JNH just left early and Debney used his thematic ideas.
And yes 90s action could be a fun one. Kamen!
@@awintory Ah sorry, I missed you mention it.
Yeah man, a Kamen deep dive would be sick.
Joel Mcneelys work on Terminal Velocity and Virus. His cues for Air Force one, too. Great story of Jerry Goldsmith looking at Joel Mcneelys score and telling him he’s working waaay too hard and crossing out huge sections of his cue.
Play watch listen continued
Dave’s Titles REALLY does sound like Liar Liar!
Man, this series is actually a fantastic reference on the evolution of film music, thanks!
Yet another one of these, full of insight and magic.
Absolutely love this podcast, and everything you guys do...thank you.
honestly this deserves more views, i just love listening to you guys talk about music and life (such a good augment to PWL).
Damn, I missed more than a few James Newton Howard scores. My first encounter with him was The Sixth Sense, "Run To The Church". Then of course Signs, and then Superman Returns. "You Are Not One Of Them", SO good!! Moar!
The James Newton Howard theme for 'Dave' sounds like The Sims 3 opening theme or Cities Skyline, or something...
I really enjoy your conversations and observations, seeing music and scores from a mind with expertise in the field really gives me a greater appreciation of it all.
Those scores are all so pretty, amazing stuff
Apart from the beloved music talk: interesting point about the "purpose" of make-up in your tangent! Also hats off to Troy for the James Newton Howard pull (despite the half-luck confession) AND naming the correct movie after what, 5 notes? Respect!
man I would love to talk Movie scores with these two. Especially Mark Isham's "October Sky"
Im enjoying what you do on youtube so much. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Nice pfp
Absolutely love this series, keep it going guys 👍
@Austin Wintory, im just 4 minutes in but gotta say you looking fresh sir! Loving the "Rouge" (from Xmen) look you're sporting. You pull it off perfectly, I should try that 🙂👍
Haha it does that naturally!!
i love this, greetings from Chile you beautiful people.
Pd: is this Troy emo phase?
This and play, watch, listen are the two podcasts I am looking forward to each week. I was wondering what do you think about Joe Hisaishi’s scores?
Some I love. Some more indifferent but always find something his work to enjoy
Austin, man, you rock!
Troy's okay.
I absolutely love this podcast - it is fantastic. I’m also so happy I clocked Dave pretty much immediately.
My kids have always loved doing a music quiz with me, which are mainly movie scores, therefore guessing within 2 seconds is important :)
great concept!
Great discussion! One of the last rom coms that I recall having a lush orchestral score was Hans Zimmer's work for The Holiday. It felt like the end of that era which had its peak in the 90s.
Side note- One of the things I appreciate about period films (particularly Victorian era) is the music. When you played Rachel Portman's piece, it reminded me of her work on Emma. It seems like lavish orchestration like that is still somewhat present in romantic period films, maybe because it fits the setting/production, and thus it doesn't come across as overly sentimental in that context?
THE HOLIDAY has some really nice stuff. Zimmer's best of all in this category, for me, is AS GOOD AS IT GETS. Much more like an intimate chamber score but goddamn is it wonderful. Among my favorite of his themes ever
@@awintory It's been a while since I've listened to it, so I had to go back and refamiliarize myself. Glad I did--I don't think I fully appreciated it back then. Thank you for the recommendation!
I just knew you were gonna play the Father of the Bride!
I think you guys had a conversation about Liar Liar and Dave on Watch, Play, Listen a while back. lol
Romantic comedies of the past twenty years with big orchestral scores could arguably include John Williams' _The Terminal_ , John Debney's _The Princess Diaries_ and his other collaborations with Garry Marshall as well as Hans Zimmer's work with Nancy Meyers. As for _Ghostbusters_ being Ivan Reitman's only good film? Come on! _Kindergarten Cop_ , _Stripes_ , _Meatballs_ , etc...
All excellent points, especially re: KINDERGARTEN COP, a very charming film! I'd forgotten that was Reitman!
22:40
EDIT: I got this all wrong. Just rewatched Cutthroat Island and Davis kicks ass the whole way through, she isn't some damsel in distress --- I can't guess where I got that impression. Great movie, everybody should watch it!
I've seen Cutthroat Island, I think it had a very strong first half but in the end the guy had to end up the hero and Gena Davis, who kicked ass in the flick, had to end up the damsel in distress. Luckily, Renny Harlin made up for it in his very next film that also starred Davis, The Long Kiss Goodnight, a FABULOUS movie
There is a moment in The American President clip that really jumped out at me. Basically descending notes that repeat (FED C FED C maybe) faintly by on the strings. And that short little phrase is something to seems to turn up a lot in scores, and I feel it every time I hear it. It’s more understated here, perhaps, than other times I’ve heard it (like in the very last scene of Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story). But it’s always that same pattern with the 3rd and 4th notes held a bit, and it turns up in works by a lot of different composers it seems. Is there any reason for that beyond the beautiful simplicity of it? Or have I just gone mad?
What about the (Chasing Amy) score from the 90's? That was my favorite 90's romantic comedy.
Sooooooooo disappointed in myself that I didn't recognize Dave. Love that film. Seen it... A number of times.
Troy's right, Sigourney Weaver was *beautiful* in that movie.
I'm not sure you could make Dave, or The American President (or even The West Wing, frankly) nowadays. They're too nice. Too pure.
(Also, is Sirens really counted as a Romantic Comedy? I would've thought if you could classify it at all it'd be Romantic Drama... Eh, above my pay grade.)
Great episode!
Angie's theme made me think of animal crossing haha
Troy...listen to Elton John's LIVE IN AUSTRALIA album, with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra, orchestrated by James Newton Howard. Absolutely BRILLIANT!!
Ivan Reitman did "National Lampoon's Animal House" as well.
I want to see Austin break out the eyeliner now
Sorry that's not Troy. He's Higgs from Death Stranding directed by Hideo Kojima written by Hideo Kojima original concept by Hideo Kojima.
Could have done a Part 2 later, probably still can.
So are we setting up a spin off series called 'Guess That Orchestration Featuring Troy Baker'?
All that pro-gay funny small talk made me so happy somehow...
I love this show. Mr. Wintory, if I may ask, how much time do you spend preparing each episode, cues and all?
All in all, a few hours. Choosing the cues is extremely easy. Takes 5 minutes. I have a mental list of thousands of options. After we shoot, the editing is few hours total
@@awintory Thank you very much for your answer as well as for running all those brilliant video series.
Dave is great
Being married to Rosanna Arquette (I was a teen) put JNH on the map to me... along with "The Package" in 1989(?).
Not to mention a reportedly torrid interaction with Streisand circa PRINCE OF TIDES :)
Jesus christ I want Troy to play David Bowie in something SO BAD now
It took me a good minute to recognize Troy! Bro the eyeliner and a bit of makeup makes your face look so feminine but in a good way! You look good but took me a moment to notice it was you! At first, it was a Prince impression of you! Austin you are great as usual and nothing calms me more than listen to you talking about music!
I think you should take a look at John Carpenter, who both composes and directs.
Release the Dave Trombone Cut
What’s with the Higgs cosplay
I'm curious, Austin, every time I watch this podcast, you're always playing Troy older stuff. Do you like modern scores as much as old ones? Or is it more like the old school ones are just the ones you can fervently stand by?
Troy is generally well-versed in recent scores and the whole idea is that there is a huge treasure trove of stuff he probably doesn't know about that my lifetime of nerdiness has exposed me to. So while yes, current scores are on the table, the odds of picking one he's already hip to is way higher.
@@awintory Oooooh, ok. That makes a lot of sense. Nice. Well I look forward to more of this show!
he's definitely higgs
Junior y stripes
YGHT? That's a pretty terrible acronym. I always think about how acronyms should be pronounced. This one would be like "eeguht" or something. Or maybe "whyguht"?!
I propose "SHIT: you Should Hear It, Troy"
@@DallasCrane Well, it would have a literal meaning, but that meaning wouldn't be descriptive of the content, now would it? :P