My dudes. I missed you guys like hell! Time to grab pop-corns and enjoy yet another awesome episode of your musical musings. Thank you for doing these!
Oh wooow, James Newton Howard's piano melodie at around 25:28 is totally a sibling of his Main Theme to Lady in the Water! Not identical twins, but the family shines through brightly! Also: would LOVE to see the trio exploring "why this music stuck".
Your 'You Gotta Hear This' elicits the same excitement in me any time Red Letter Media uploads a new video. I listen to these when I'm cooking, and it's my favourite part of the day!
God bless you for including the The Village on this! I've been listening to this score for ages and I actually didn't know that was Hilary Hahn on the violin. The Gravel Road is one of my ultimate goals to play on the violin 10 years from now, if I'm lucky.
Was not expecting How to train your dragon but IM HERE FOR IT, John Powell is definitely not technically underrated but i still think he is. A true mastro.
God, nothing has surpassed Memoirs of a Geisha for me since I heard it. Never fails to give me chills. My absolute favorite. Also the Zimmer rom-com scores are great, could probably make a full episode of "non-gimmick" Zimmer scores.
24:55 I love The Village! Shyamalan is one of my favorite film makers. I was playing Dragon Age Inquisition (superb game and musical score) so I wasn't looking at youtube here and I was able to identify James Newton Howard's score immediately.
You know, I really love Anne Dudley's score to The Full Monty. Used to watch that movie a lot when I was a kid, so it comes with a huge dose of nostalgia.
I cannot get enough of Short Hair from Mulan. It is just a perfect piece. It gives me chills every time i listen to it. I watched Mulan because of this video. Thanks for putting me onto it.
I had a suspicion that was John Powell! The elation hearing that confirmation from Austin will never again be felt. So so glad this series is back for however long you two have the time to do it. Thank you both for everything!
Thank you, thank you, thank you for mentioning Memoirs of a Geisha! One of the best musical scores of all time and one of my very favorites film scores!!
25:00 I might be one of the few who absolutely adores The Village. It came out in a very formative period for me and the naivete around love was still very fresh. I saw it blind, never had any expectations of it and the TWEEEEEEST sort of became secondary to the romantic plot in it. The score has permanently remained on my playlist ever since.
Troy needs to play the last guardian, it makes me cry every time I play it. Also has a great, more traditional orchestral score that’s a lot of the reason why it makes me cry
I bought the original score album for Face/Off on release and have listened to it regularly ever since. That was John Powell's first feature film credit, and it made me a fan from day 1. I used 2 tracks from it to score student films I made at NYU and use the airport sequence from the beginning of the film to demonstrate the idea of hit points in the Film Music class I teach. I also use the final cue from his score for United 93 to demonstrate how it goes from subtle underscore to carrying the emotion of the climactic moment. It's so satisfying to see him embraced by the film composer community, never mind his professional success. Thanks for highlighting him.
What a great episode! Lots of good discussion here. The part where you were talking about Hanz Zimmer reminds me of the documentary "The Sound of 007" that came out last year. At one point Billie Eilish was talking about working with Hanz and describes him as a complete "dorkball," in an endearing way. Because despite how renowned he is and how many intense scores he's made, he's just a man who loves creating music. And is really freaking good at it lol. Thanks for sharing as always, and good luck at the Grammys!
Shakespeare in love probably had the biggest lobby in Oscar's history. Every Brazilian knows that Gwyneth Paltrow's best actress win should've gone to Fernanda Montenegro for Central Station
I love how, with each one of these, I come away with an awesome new score I need to listen to, and/or a new movie I need to watch! Thank you both for those discoveries, and for a great episode!
I was waiting for the next episode! Been some time 🙂 Edit: just saw the whole video and I can say Jerry Goldsmith was so great in Mulan. Such a strong and memorable piece it was carved in my mind ever since I was a kid when I first heard it. As you say dear Austin it has a story to say. Short Hair from Mulan is very strong too. It hits different when you watch the scene as an adult. Looking forward to the next episode ;-)
This was a REALLY cool episode! I agree there’s far too many phenomenal scores out there that go unnoticed, especially in video games even more than in film I’d say.
finally got around to watching this while crocheting a fish (almost finished!) and I must say it's so refreshing to have a podcast where people get to gush about their favorite things. It's so easy to fall down a rabbit hole of bad faith criticism and disparaging reviews that I forgot how fun it is to just have people who are passionate about their industry appreciate the work of others. also, about how horror scores are sometimes hard to listen to outside of the context they exist in - while I find that the OST to Vampyr isn't great for studying or working out, I have found it very helpful to set the mood for writing horror stories!
Some of my favorites in there! And I'll go out on a limb here for Shyamalan - I think The Village is one of his best. If you disregard the whole "we got the Twist from the trailer" fiasco, it's fantastically done, the performances are brilliant, and JNH's score melds it all together. Man, I missed you guys so much.
Whoop happy to see you guys back, 100% with Troy on True Romance too, basically the only Tarantino movie I enjoyed haha! 😅I thought the score to don't worry darlin' ripped too (I quite liked the film too)! Thanks so much for doing these, brings me a lot of joy
I’ve spent an evening building a spotify playlist that aims to evoke the emotional, yet epic, feel to scores. The first How To Train Your Dragon is simply a masterpiece and hammers you right out of the blocks with “This is Berk”. Another of my absolute favourite is the Super 8 Suite by Michael Giacchino - it’s utterly sublime.
Oh, yes, I missed you guys, welcome back! I love the shoutout to John Powell (BTW, Troy should NEVER watch the 3rd film, it nearly broke and I'm nowhere near having the reaction he had to the first one). I agree with How to Train your Dragon being like him at the top of his game, but I think an underrated score of his is the third X-Men. I think it really checks some of the same boxes his Dragon scores do... just attached to a, well, not quite well received movie.
Austin, if you have time I’d love to see some of your top classical picks we could check out or in theory check out when Apple launches their classical app later this month.
I personally think the film Once is brilliant (come at me, Troy!), but I'm just really happy to hear Glen Hansard's name spoken on this show. I adore that man and his music, whether it's with Marketa Irglova, as part of The Frames, or solo.
There’s a lot of scores that should have been NOMINATED but somehow didn’t hahaha. Like you I thought Powell’s Don’t Worry Darling was genius! Personally my favorite score of 2022 was Rob Simonsen’s score to The Whale. Hell…reminder that James Horner’s Land Before Time WAS NOT NOMINATED😂😂 It’s one of things that prove that accolades don’t represent the entirety of the bowl of scores or movies released in a year. I’m always happy for any colleagues of mine that get nominated because that’s truly awesome!! But that shouldn’t be end all be all!! Focus on you and what you can do! Love this video…also damn…didn’t realize what beat Milan 😂
Have you every listened to the soundtrack for the Warhammer 40k Mechanicus video game? I have never played the game, but the music is so creative. I listen to it all the time.
Having gotten a job in the "please, sign me in even underpaid" category last year, that's a resounding yes. Never lose your passion for what you do. And if you're not passionate, maybe, just maybe, art & entertainment might not be the best industries for you. It's quite a lot of crap to put up with, sometimes.
The whole time I was thinking about how Shakespeare in Love won over Prince of Egypt and how absolutely insane that was; I feel like it could've won based on the Burning Bush theme alone (PoE at least won best original song). But then that upset was eventually brought up in relation to Mulan which I forgot was nominated too! I feel like you don't see multiple animated films get nominated for best score in the same year very often. Also I wonder if Troy knows the connection between Lilo and Stitch and HTTYD sharing the same directors.
I'm sure you're flooded with recommendations and requests on what to do in future episodes, but I would love yours and Troy's thoughts (and reactions) to Don Davis's Matrix trilogy scores. And those absurdaly genius orchestrations.
Look, uh... in my humble opinion the Mulan score does have some weird and slightly off moments as well. Especially the hero montage part in the cue "Short Hair" has this 80's vibe percussion layer in it that really feels like Goldsmith trying to sound... "cool" and bringing some Rocky atmosphere into the score that doesn't really belong. ua-cam.com/video/MilR3Z1sASY/v-deo.html I've never understood why this went into the final film. All in all, another fantastic video! 🤩
Maybe it's just me, but for all the times that Alan Menken has won Academy Awards, I'd argue it's his best stuff that failed to win Oscars: "Mean Green Mother (From Outer Space)" lost best original song to "Take My Breath Away"* and "Hunchback of Notre Dame" lost "Best Original Musical or Comedy Score" to "Emma". *Which is not my favorite song that I've ever heard, frankly.
Sorta like Randy Newman losing the song Oscar for TOY STORY, instead winning for MONSTERS INC and his speech being something like "Really? For this one?"
So wonderful to have another episode of this amazing series to enjoy! Thank you, guys, so much! I love the mention of Far and Away - I just restored the extended 3-hr cut of that film, and even commissioned a poster for it. I still have a few available if anyone would like to have one: ua-cam.com/video/8zeJYtzHGeY/v-deo.html
So, so, so much I'm wanting to add to this conversation, but I'll just say that, for my ears, no one made horns sound as good and as monumental as Goldsmith did.
@@awintory I tell you what, though, on the subject of scores not getting their due recognition thanks to the film's performance... Cutthroat Island. That honestly should've shot John Debney to mainstream prominence. I don't hate the Pirates of the Caribbean scores, but it hurts to know they're instantly recognized while Cutthroat Island seems to languish in obscurity. These conversations are great, I really appreciate that you and Troy do these.
Austin! Curious to hear what you think of Jonny Greenwood’s film compositions. He uses a lot of harsh dissonance in his work on There Will Be Blood and The Power of the Dog which I could see being off putting to many. However, I think his score for Phantom Thread is absolutely beautiful
So many great pulls, I love all of those scores. But above all, what I've learned today is that my unpopular opinion is that I love Shakespeare in Love's score; is it better than Mulan, probably not, but I can't deny that I find it so beautiful.
It's not that SIL is a bad score by any means ... it's simply that in an A/B comparison I at least subjectively find Mulan vastly more engaging, interesting, etc. But it's not like Warbeck didn't do precisely what the job demanded! I always respect and admire that
@@awintory That's definitely fair! I didn't take it as you making any sleight to the score at all. Just my observation, since SIL is to your point the go-to trivia of "that won over X" in virtually every category from that year. You're definitely right, the writing in Mulan is more complex and exciting (same with contenders in all the other categories it won, honestly). It's probably the English major in me that still keeps me coming back to that movie and mostly that score tho haha.
I'm curious what Troy thinks of The Iron Giant... Cuz that's, in my opinion, the king of the "boy and his pet" movie archetype. Not to mention, Kamen's score is one of my all-time favorites. And competing with E.T. and HTTYD (both as films and scores) is no small thing, but I like Iron Giant better than either of them in both respects!
Funny enough, rumor was that that score was nominated until the MORNING of the announcements, when they realized huge swaths of it was based on pre-existing concert music of JG's and therefore not eligible. JNH's MICHAEL COLLINS was swapped in at the last minute to replace it
@@awintory Hey Austin, would you ever consider doing a Tape Notes style video with Troy where you breakdown a few pieces from the Aliens Fireteam Elite stems and show the production/composition elements? Would be a super cool insight into how you got those interesting sounds and arrangements
Orchestral scores you want to put on concert? Oh, my. How eagerly can someone wait for you two to get to Japan? Edit: How is "this movie" not well liked? Maybe it's a "film people thing", but it's weird to even hear someone refer to it as anything other than "his best ever film". The gesture in the violin instantly gave it away for me. And the score carries it so hard, and that's by design.
Austin, what software do you use to share high quality audio stream with Troy while on a (I assume) VoIP call ? Do you just mix two audio sources, your mic and your audio player as one virtual input and use that input for the VoIP call ?
It seems to me that the AMPAS doesn't really evaluate the categories it selects for closely. Avatar won best cinematography for 2009, and I agree, but who got the award? Mauro Fiore, who ONLY worked on the live action portions of Avatar, I doubt the Academy knew or cared about this fact. Avatar was also a tremendous achievement in film editing and pioneered performance editing for performance capture but lost in that category to Hurt Locker. And so Anne Dudly won best original comedy score for the Full Monty (a movie I have not seen) simply, I think, because the Academy liked the movie, probably enjoyed the non-original elements of the score, and gave it the W.
@@juliahenriques210 Good to know! There was a funny period of nudity in UK produced comedy films after Full Monty came out, the advertising for "Waking Ned Devine" (one of the best films ever, imo) focused on this element like it was a sequel to Full Monty even though it was not the center of the film but rather just an entertaining scene.
There's nothing wrong with the score to FULL MONTY, but it did seem to undoubtedly win on the momentum of the film's overall appeal, and the prevalence of famous songs.
lol ok troy Tarantino is one of the great directors reservoir dogs pulp fiction Jackie brown kill bill inglorious basterds Django unchained and hateful eight are incredible films and brilliantly directed the opening of inglorious is just amazing
My dudes. I missed you guys like hell!
Time to grab pop-corns and enjoy yet another awesome episode of your musical musings.
Thank you for doing these!
How To Train Your Dragon might actually be my favourite film score, god damn. So happy to hear Austin gush about it, pure magic
Holy crap, I forgot how good the soundtrack for How to Train Your Dragon was. I need to rewatch that movie.
Yes, yes you do
Oh wooow, James Newton Howard's piano melodie at around 25:28 is totally a sibling of his Main Theme to Lady in the Water! Not identical twins, but the family shines through brightly! Also: would LOVE to see the trio exploring "why this music stuck".
Your 'You Gotta Hear This' elicits the same excitement in me any time Red Letter Media uploads a new video. I listen to these when I'm cooking, and it's my favourite part of the day!
God bless you for including the The Village on this! I've been listening to this score for ages and I actually didn't know that was Hilary Hahn on the violin. The Gravel Road is one of my ultimate goals to play on the violin 10 years from now, if I'm lucky.
Was not expecting How to train your dragon but IM HERE FOR IT, John Powell is definitely not technically underrated but i still think he is. A true mastro.
God, nothing has surpassed Memoirs of a Geisha for me since I heard it. Never fails to give me chills. My absolute favorite.
Also the Zimmer rom-com scores are great, could probably make a full episode of "non-gimmick" Zimmer scores.
Oh yes easily. Not yet done a focused look at HZ but could easily through many lenses
It was my first time hearing it and my reaction was pretty emotional to say the least. What a cello performance :D
24:55
I love The Village! Shyamalan is one of my favorite film makers. I was playing Dragon Age Inquisition (superb game and musical score) so I wasn't looking at youtube here and I was able to identify James Newton Howard's score immediately.
You know, I really love Anne Dudley's score to The Full Monty. Used to watch that movie a lot when I was a kid, so it comes with a huge dose of nostalgia.
I would love an episode on Basil Poledouris, for me he’s one of the most underestimated composers.
Definitely planned
I cannot get enough of Short Hair from Mulan. It is just a perfect piece. It gives me chills every time i listen to it. I watched Mulan because of this video. Thanks for putting me onto it.
I can't help but hear some JOURNEY inspiration in that track from MEMOIRS OF A GEISHA.
I had a suspicion that was John Powell! The elation hearing that confirmation from Austin will never again be felt. So so glad this series is back for however long you two have the time to do it. Thank you both for everything!
Thank you, thank you, thank you for mentioning Memoirs of a Geisha! One of the best musical scores of all time and one of my very favorites film scores!!
It's a masterpiece!
So I watch every movie that gets mentioned here and I just wanted to say thank you for putting the village on the list.....
25:00 I might be one of the few who absolutely adores The Village. It came out in a very formative period for me and the naivete around love was still very fresh. I saw it blind, never had any expectations of it and the TWEEEEEEST sort of became secondary to the romantic plot in it. The score has permanently remained on my playlist ever since.
Troy needs to play the last guardian, it makes me cry every time I play it. Also has a great, more traditional orchestral score that’s a lot of the reason why it makes me cry
I bought the original score album for Face/Off on release and have listened to it regularly ever since. That was John Powell's first feature film credit, and it made me a fan from day 1. I used 2 tracks from it to score student films I made at NYU and use the airport sequence from the beginning of the film to demonstrate the idea of hit points in the Film Music class I teach. I also use the final cue from his score for United 93 to demonstrate how it goes from subtle underscore to carrying the emotion of the climactic moment. It's so satisfying to see him embraced by the film composer community, never mind his professional success. Thanks for highlighting him.
What a great episode! Lots of good discussion here. The part where you were talking about Hanz Zimmer reminds me of the documentary "The Sound of 007" that came out last year. At one point Billie Eilish was talking about working with Hanz and describes him as a complete "dorkball," in an endearing way. Because despite how renowned he is and how many intense scores he's made, he's just a man who loves creating music. And is really freaking good at it lol. Thanks for sharing as always, and good luck at the Grammys!
Beautiful edit in the beginning 😂
Shakespeare in love probably had the biggest lobby in Oscar's history. Every Brazilian knows that Gwyneth Paltrow's best actress win should've gone to Fernanda Montenegro for Central Station
Glad to see another one of these! They're so much fun
I love how, with each one of these, I come away with an awesome new score I need to listen to, and/or a new movie I need to watch! Thank you both for those discoveries, and for a great episode!
I have missed these. Fantastic as always.
Yesssss, you just made my day uploading this!
It felt like forever. So glad you're back!
Absolutely adore the conversations you both have - these podcasts have been stellar to listen to! Thank you Austin and Troy
great episode love getting exposed to scores from greats that normally wouldn't love the show!!
Yess I needed this today ! I can listen to Austin and Troy talk movies and music all day long. Keep it going Austin !!
Vamos! Really dig these, always illuminating.
Thank you for recording the podcast. I was really looking forward to it.
Going to get lunch can wait, new You Gotta Hear This! just dropped
One of my favorite podcasts
YES! thank you austin and troy
Great idea for a topic
Please run with that idea Troy said towards the beginning. I would LOVE to watch an episode based on that :)
I am immediately downloading the How to Train Your Dragon score because my god... I forgot how incredible that score is.
I could listen to you guys talk forever. Honestly, read the phone book next episode and I'll be there!
I was waiting for the next episode! Been some time 🙂
Edit: just saw the whole video and I can say Jerry Goldsmith was so great in Mulan. Such a strong and memorable piece it was carved in my mind ever since I was a kid when I first heard it. As you say dear Austin it has a story to say. Short Hair from Mulan is very strong too. It hits different when you watch the scene as an adult.
Looking forward to the next episode ;-)
This was a REALLY cool episode! I agree there’s far too many phenomenal scores out there that go unnoticed, especially in video games even more than in film I’d say.
finally got around to watching this while crocheting a fish (almost finished!) and I must say it's so refreshing to have a podcast where people get to gush about their favorite things. It's so easy to fall down a rabbit hole of bad faith criticism and disparaging reviews that I forgot how fun it is to just have people who are passionate about their industry appreciate the work of others.
also, about how horror scores are sometimes hard to listen to outside of the context they exist in - while I find that the OST to Vampyr isn't great for studying or working out, I have found it very helpful to set the mood for writing horror stories!
That intro was so on brand 😂 I’ve missed these episodes!
I'm only a minute in and already having the best time! Bravo Dallas, bravo!!! 👏👏👏👏👏
Thanks :)))
Some of my favorites in there! And I'll go out on a limb here for Shyamalan - I think The Village is one of his best. If you disregard the whole "we got the Twist from the trailer" fiasco, it's fantastically done, the performances are brilliant, and JNH's score melds it all together. Man, I missed you guys so much.
Whoop happy to see you guys back, 100% with Troy on True Romance too, basically the only Tarantino movie I enjoyed haha! 😅I thought the score to don't worry darlin' ripped too (I quite liked the film too)! Thanks so much for doing these, brings me a lot of joy
That VCR gag would be a novel hook for a second channel or subscribers-only podcast.
Great video!
And didn't even mention the 1979-sized elephant in the room. (Delerue was a master, and A Little Romance is lovely, but damn...)
Ya, though I *love* Delerue
I’ve spent an evening building a spotify playlist that aims to evoke the emotional, yet epic, feel to scores. The first How To Train Your Dragon is simply a masterpiece and hammers you right out of the blocks with “This is Berk”. Another of my absolute favourite is the Super 8 Suite by Michael Giacchino - it’s utterly sublime.
Oh, yes, I missed you guys, welcome back! I love the shoutout to John Powell (BTW, Troy should NEVER watch the 3rd film, it nearly broke and I'm nowhere near having the reaction he had to the first one). I agree with How to Train your Dragon being like him at the top of his game, but I think an underrated score of his is the third X-Men. I think it really checks some of the same boxes his Dragon scores do... just attached to a, well, not quite well received movie.
Austin, if you have time I’d love to see some of your top classical picks we could check out or in theory check out when Apple launches their classical app later this month.
Mulan is my favourite Goldsmith score. Great to see/hear it on the show :)
I personally think the film Once is brilliant (come at me, Troy!), but I'm just really happy to hear Glen Hansard's name spoken on this show. I adore that man and his music, whether it's with Marketa Irglova, as part of The Frames, or solo.
Holy crap As Good As It Gets! What a great movie.
He broke out the red jacket, the music trivia is going to go crazy in this one for sure.
There’s a lot of scores that should have been NOMINATED but somehow didn’t hahaha. Like you I thought Powell’s Don’t Worry Darling was genius! Personally my favorite score of 2022 was Rob Simonsen’s score to The Whale. Hell…reminder that James Horner’s Land Before Time WAS NOT NOMINATED😂😂
It’s one of things that prove that accolades don’t represent the entirety of the bowl of scores or movies released in a year. I’m always happy for any colleagues of mine that get nominated because that’s truly awesome!! But that shouldn’t be end all be all!! Focus on you and what you can do! Love this video…also damn…didn’t realize what beat Milan 😂
Have you every listened to the soundtrack for the Warhammer 40k Mechanicus video game? I have never played the game, but the music is so creative. I listen to it all the time.
Having gotten a job in the "please, sign me in even underpaid" category last year, that's a resounding yes. Never lose your passion for what you do. And if you're not passionate, maybe, just maybe, art & entertainment might not be the best industries for you. It's quite a lot of crap to put up with, sometimes.
The whole time I was thinking about how Shakespeare in Love won over Prince of Egypt and how absolutely insane that was; I feel like it could've won based on the Burning Bush theme alone (PoE at least won best original song). But then that upset was eventually brought up in relation to Mulan which I forgot was nominated too! I feel like you don't see multiple animated films get nominated for best score in the same year very often.
Also I wonder if Troy knows the connection between Lilo and Stitch and HTTYD sharing the same directors.
I'm sure you're flooded with recommendations and requests on what to do in future episodes, but I would love yours and Troy's thoughts (and reactions) to Don Davis's Matrix trilogy scores. And those absurdaly genius orchestrations.
I would love to see you guys talk about some superhero scores
I love these
That side-by-side of Shakespeare v Mulan was pretty brutal man xD Would love more of this theme, "fuck the Oscars"!
Nah, it's not 'fuck the oscars.' More just that over time, history starts to tell a different story!
@@awintory 100%
Look, uh... in my humble opinion the Mulan score does have some weird and slightly off moments as well. Especially the hero montage part in the cue "Short Hair" has this 80's vibe percussion layer in it that really feels like Goldsmith trying to sound... "cool" and bringing some Rocky atmosphere into the score that doesn't really belong. ua-cam.com/video/MilR3Z1sASY/v-deo.html I've never understood why this went into the final film.
All in all, another fantastic video! 🤩
I mean, it has one weird moment because the studio wanted it. Take that track away, and the rest is an incredible score.
Maybe it's just me, but for all the times that Alan Menken has won Academy Awards, I'd argue it's his best stuff that failed to win Oscars: "Mean Green Mother (From Outer Space)" lost best original song to "Take My Breath Away"* and "Hunchback of Notre Dame" lost "Best Original Musical or Comedy Score" to "Emma".
*Which is not my favorite song that I've ever heard, frankly.
Sorta like Randy Newman losing the song Oscar for TOY STORY, instead winning for MONSTERS INC and his speech being something like "Really? For this one?"
Is it fair to say that you took inspiration from the Mulan soundtrack, scoring the Pathless?
Nothing intentional but Goldsmith runs deep in my blood as a general default
So wonderful to have another episode of this amazing series to enjoy! Thank you, guys, so much! I love the mention of Far and Away - I just restored the extended 3-hr cut of that film, and even commissioned a poster for it. I still have a few available if anyone would like to have one: ua-cam.com/video/8zeJYtzHGeY/v-deo.html
So, so, so much I'm wanting to add to this conversation, but I'll just say that, for my ears, no one made horns sound as good and as monumental as Goldsmith did.
Pretty hard to disagree with that!
@@awintory I tell you what, though, on the subject of scores not getting their due recognition thanks to the film's performance... Cutthroat Island. That honestly should've shot John Debney to mainstream prominence. I don't hate the Pirates of the Caribbean scores, but it hurts to know they're instantly recognized while Cutthroat Island seems to languish in obscurity.
These conversations are great, I really appreciate that you and Troy do these.
Austin! Curious to hear what you think of Jonny Greenwood’s film compositions. He uses a lot of harsh dissonance in his work on There Will Be Blood and The Power of the Dog which I could see being off putting to many. However, I think his score for Phantom Thread is absolutely beautiful
He's a powerhouse. Loved Phantom Thread especially!
So many great pulls, I love all of those scores. But above all, what I've learned today is that my unpopular opinion is that I love Shakespeare in Love's score; is it better than Mulan, probably not, but I can't deny that I find it so beautiful.
It's not that SIL is a bad score by any means ... it's simply that in an A/B comparison I at least subjectively find Mulan vastly more engaging, interesting, etc. But it's not like Warbeck didn't do precisely what the job demanded! I always respect and admire that
@@awintory That's definitely fair! I didn't take it as you making any sleight to the score at all. Just my observation, since SIL is to your point the go-to trivia of "that won over X" in virtually every category from that year. You're definitely right, the writing in Mulan is more complex and exciting (same with contenders in all the other categories it won, honestly). It's probably the English major in me that still keeps me coming back to that movie and mostly that score tho haha.
I haven't started this video yet, but I assume you mention The Mission early on.
I'm curious what your reaction to the movie "Tar", Austin. Would be a great discussion too.
Still not seen it but expecting to love it
46:42 ‘98 was weird man 😂
Would love to hear Austins' thoughts on "The Count of Monte Cristo" soundtrack by Edward Shearmur.
One of my all-time favorites
I'm curious what Troy thinks of The Iron Giant...
Cuz that's, in my opinion, the king of the "boy and his pet" movie archetype. Not to mention, Kamen's score is one of my all-time favorites.
And competing with E.T. and HTTYD (both as films and scores) is no small thing, but I like Iron Giant better than either of them in both respects!
Iron Giant is SUCH a masterpiece
Gladiator and Inception, I’ll leave it there, totally robbed. (Sure there are tons others)
Another one is Jonny Greenwood for There Will Be Blood, which wasn't even nominated
Funny enough, rumor was that that score was nominated until the MORNING of the announcements, when they realized huge swaths of it was based on pre-existing concert music of JG's and therefore not eligible. JNH's MICHAEL COLLINS was swapped in at the last minute to replace it
@@awintory Hey Austin, would you ever consider doing a Tape Notes style video with Troy where you breakdown a few pieces from the Aliens Fireteam Elite stems and show the production/composition elements? Would be a super cool insight into how you got those interesting sounds and arrangements
@@connorrobinson-pierce You need only look elsewhere on my channel :)
ua-cam.com/video/tbZk-xCXhQI/v-deo.html
John Powell for President!
Orchestral scores you want to put on concert? Oh, my. How eagerly can someone wait for you two to get to Japan? Edit: How is "this movie" not well liked? Maybe it's a "film people thing", but it's weird to even hear someone refer to it as anything other than "his best ever film". The gesture in the violin instantly gave it away for me. And the score carries it so hard, and that's by design.
The Village is incredible.
You both know we want a Last of Us series dedicated nerding out episode :)
Austin, what software do you use to share high quality audio stream with Troy while on a (I assume) VoIP call ?
Do you just mix two audio sources, your mic and your audio player as one virtual input and use that input for the VoIP call ?
AudioMovers!
@@awintory thank you!
I think it's hilarious that this video is in 4K btw.
It's for the sake of audio compression more than video!
@@awintory Ah okay. There's better audio on 4K? How much better because I might have to go up to 4K uploads for my mockups?
I was waiting for a snatch of "Sunrise on lake Pontchartrain" as well as a great Oscar loser. 🖼
What do you think Austin?
Absolutely gorgeous score, start to finish. Among my all-time favorites and probably single favorite of Desplat's
It seems to me that the AMPAS doesn't really evaluate the categories it selects for closely.
Avatar won best cinematography for 2009, and I agree, but who got the award? Mauro Fiore, who ONLY worked on the live action portions of Avatar, I doubt the Academy knew or cared about this fact.
Avatar was also a tremendous achievement in film editing and pioneered performance editing for performance capture but lost in that category to Hurt Locker.
And so Anne Dudly won best original comedy score for the Full Monty (a movie I have not seen) simply, I think, because the Academy liked the movie, probably enjoyed the non-original elements of the score, and gave it the W.
Full Monty is a great film, actually. That score, though...
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Good to know! There was a funny period of nudity in UK produced comedy films after Full Monty came out, the advertising for "Waking Ned Devine" (one of the best films ever, imo) focused on this element like it was a sequel to Full Monty even though it was not the center of the film but rather just an entertaining scene.
There's nothing wrong with the score to FULL MONTY, but it did seem to undoubtedly win on the momentum of the film's overall appeal, and the prevalence of famous songs.
New episode anytime soon ???😬
Hopefully yes!
lol ok troy Tarantino is one of the great directors reservoir dogs pulp fiction Jackie brown kill bill inglorious basterds Django unchained and hateful eight are incredible films and brilliantly directed the opening of inglorious is just amazing
Haha agreed
HOW did I MISS this?! UA-cam subscriber landing page you have done me dirty. I cannot wait to get stuck into this with a scotch and my good cans. 🤌